With his letter to Aleksandar Vucic and Hashim Thaci, Donald Trump has practically put delimitation as a solution to the Kosovo problem officially on the table.
Simple solution. Ship Azir, avni, Lenard, Peter the Rocky Mountains, sj, Peggy, Zhukov, etc. to Liberland. Give it a month. Problem will solve itself and there will be peace in the Balkans. Or at least on b92!
(JS, 21 December 2018 17:02)
How about you going back to the USA? Its where you were born and you can fill them with your BS about brotherly love.
Trump especially has no patience for it. I give it 2-3 months.
(Genti, 22 December 2018 17:18
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Don't put your hopes on Trump. He has no stomach for war any more. He is picking up his toys and going home.
Also, as far as Trump is concerned Kosovo issue is not a done. He wants to negotiate unlike his predecessor Clinton and Obama.
Kosovo was NEVER a done deal. Only in your imagination.
Tell you something you probably never thought of. The ONLY way Serbia is getting bombed again is if WW3 starts. Nobody is going to bomb Serbia over Kosovo now unless they want to start WW3 and then all bets are off just like it was WW1 and WW2. Serbia came out on the winning side both times and your guys on the losing side.
Want to go three for three?
People are people more or less same amount of each kind everywhere.
(Tito reloaded, 22 December 2018 18:52)
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Than you're willfully blind.
Do you not see how Popular Thomson is in Croatia?
It's not the leadership alone. Politicians are only giving people what they want. If hate and misinformation was on the nose of the people then politicians wouldn't find any benefit in playing that game would they?
Who are they pandering to if not the people? Why do they get even more rabid just before the elections? Because that's what people want to hear from them.
I have no doubt that people can pass through each other's territories in relative peace now just don't order any meals speaking in a Serbian dialect while in Croatia if you don't want a side of spit with your salad.
It would be more constructive if you saw things as they are rather than what you wish them to be.
..e.g. Trump has approved of the Kosova Army, otherwise why would he send a shipload of state of the art weapons to Kosova free of charge. Furthermore, the weapons meet NATO standards, this implies that Kosova is soon to join NATO and take over Camp Bondsteel with American advisors when Kfor leaves.
@Jugoslavija: autonomous province macedonia? Macedonia was already before ww2 a special case. And it is not that anybody should be proud of what the King did there.
Further Vojvodina was an additional vote on federal level for serbia.
But anyway once you blamed already Tito and the communists for the wars in the 90s. I can not remember that at any point of time they said take the weapons and start killing eachother. That were the nationalists from the republics, that started the wars and poisened people with fear and hate through their propaganda.
And the worst is, this kind of people are still at power in the new states and they still play the game of fear and hate.
You like to follow them that is your right. I travel freely without prejudice to slovenia, croatia, bosnia, macedonia and montenegro. People are people more or less same amount of each kind everywhere.
"Fire and fury hasn't rained over Serbia in the last 10 years that they haven't recognized Kosovo"
(Zoo)
Zoo, it's different now, the West's patience is ending, especially with Russia causing trouble in the Ukraine. Nobody wants more frozen conflicts, especially fake conflicts that were solved 20 years ago, but are kept alive for political games.
This drama is coming to an end now. Everyone is tired of it, especially the West and even most Serbs. Trump especially has no patience for it. I give it 2-3 months.
"Things were more quiet here before Joe, the famous Greek-Catholic imbecile Nazi from fenced community in NY, also known as "Mutyuli" somewhere else.
I happen to talk with Peggy and sj before Joe dropped on B92. It was a different and more peaceful time. I don't recall you during the Joe time, not sure about Lenard. I think only Peggy, sj and Roger7 are the remaining few."
When precisely was that time?
"There was "Rocky" as well, without "Peter" and "Mountains". I believe, he changed his nick after learning, "Rocky" alias Sylvester Stallone is largely a Russian guy from Odessa."
LOL
"I find it bizarre that the Kosovo conflict is now 20 year old but things on B92 are getting worse." (Ataman, 21 December 2018 18:10)
I doubt that they are more than a month per year in the region.
But I would even offer them our ground and broadcast live. I guess Pink would finally have a serious opponent for farma. :)
(Tito reloaded, 21 December 2018 20:38)
I doubt that they are more than a month per year in the region.
But I would even offer them our ground and broadcast live. I guess Pink would finally have a serious opponent for farma. :)
i want to irrarate the comments that were made in the above articles, first of all politics is a complex game, one day you have two enemies and next friends and vise versa, but to get to the point i find that usa wants to arm the enemy of its oppenants that dont want to bow down to its supremacy, all nato countries take dialgue and instructions from the great usa.but there are countries out there that are non aligned to either great russia and usa but dont want to be dragged in thier conflicts or supression for greater idology. myself personally coming from yugoslavia during war period left great scars and resenment as a youth, but i found a better life in canada where i can hold a job nit be discrimanted entirly, and can hold a sense opion. i loved my country but i found a second home and for 24 years i found a way to integrate into canadian culture, learn and prosper to become a better sociely and make friends for a lifetime. i dont judgee others or high profile someones ethnicti, relgion, occuption, etc. i love the canadain way of life and its inception. others should to. i think weapons and war should be the last thing on how to resolve political dispute.
i want to irrarate the comments that were made in the above articles, first of all politics is a complex game, one day you have two enemies and next friends and vise versa, but to get to the point i find that usa wants to arm the enemy of its oppenants that dont want to bow down to its supremacy, all nato countries take dialgue and instructions from the great usa.but there are countries out there that are non aligned to either great russia and usa but dont want to be dragged in thier conflicts or supression for greater idology. myself personally coming from yugoslavia during war period left great scars and resenment as a youth, but i found a better life in canada where i can hold a job nit be discrimanted entirly, and can hold a sense opion. i loved my country but i found a second home and for 24 years i found a way to integrate into canadian culture, learn and prosper to become a better sociely and make friends for a lifetime. i dont judgee others or high profile someones ethnicti, relgion, occuption, etc. i love the canadain way of life and its inception. others should to. i think weapons and war should be the last thing on how to resolve political dispute.
Simple solution. Ship Azir, avni, Lenard, Peter the Rocky Mountains, sj, Peggy, Zhukov, etc. to Liberland. Give it a month. Problem will solve itself and there will be peace in the Balkans. Or at least on b92!
(JS, 21 December 2018 17:02)
Things were more quiet here before Joe, the famous Greek-Catholic imbecile Nazi from fenced community in NY, also known as "Mutyuli" somewhere else.
I happen to talk with Peggy and sj before Joe dropped on B92. It was a different and more peaceful time. I don't recall you during the Joe time, not sure about Lenard. I think only Peggy, sj and Roger7 are the remaining few. There was "Rocky" as well, without "Peter" and "Mountains". I believe, he changed his nick after learning, "Rocky" alias Sylvester Stallone is largely a Russian guy from Odessa.
I find it bizarre that the Kosovo conflict is now 20 year old but things on B92 are getting worse.
Or why not to make a new balkan state, in which albania and serbia unify. That would be an impressive move for living together. Then no further discussions about Kosovo would be needed it belongs to both sides.
By ancesters we are the same anyway.
(Tito reloaded, 20 December 2018 15:53)
That's just genius. Nikola Pasic was right after WWI about building a unitary Serbian state without Croatia who were always stirring up trouble under Hungarian rule. The allies dangled the Dalmatian coast to the Serbs if they created this Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes and the Serbs fell for it. Tito on the other hand made it worse by dividing the Serbs further with the creation of Autonomous regions of Kosovo, Macedonia, and Vojvodina with the help of the Communist Milovan Djilas. Why wasn't Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina divided up?
"The act of revenge has to stop, catholic and muslim bosnians also will never return to some now only orthodox populated villages.
Who is in the books now shall stay in the books. Where people got deported by force they shall get compensation or the chance to move back.
Some Albanians do not want Serbs and some Serbs do not want to live with Albanians. So what to do, not everybody can be satisfied. I call for unification and a peacefull future, but we all have to supress the nationalists for that. I would make a small area for radical albanians where they can move one for radical serbs. And whoever wants to live in the none radical areas must face severe punishments if he undermines the life of peaceful people." (Tito reloaded, 21 December 2018 16:00)
Simple solution. Ship Azir, avni, Lenard, Peter the Rocky Mountains, sj, Peggy, Zhukov, etc. to Liberland. Give it a month. Problem will solve itself and there will be peace in the Balkans. Or at least on b92!
This would be the same that happens to many serbs in croatia, bosnia and Kosovo.
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This has already happened to the Serbs.
Did you forget Oluja?
How many can't return to Kosovo?
(Peggy)
your questions was already answered above, sorry for my time mistake, 'hapens' with 'happened'.
I think that serbs should be allowed to return. In theory they are, but I understand it contains a certain risk and considering that 19 to 27 years past, many started a new life. We have several neighbours from Kosovo and Croatia, they got their lifes under control.
Even if serbia would gain control they would not move back, their children grow up here.
The act of revenge has to stop, catholic and muslim bosnians also will never return to some now only orthodox populated villages.
Who is in the books now shall stay in the books. Where people got deported by force they shall get compensation or the chance to move back.
Some Albanians do not want Serbs and some Serbs do not want to live with Albanians. So what to do, not everybody can be satisfied. I call for unification and a peacefull future, but we all have to supress the nationalists for that. I would make a small area for radical albanians where they can move one for radical serbs. And whoever wants to live in the none radical areas must face severe punishments if he undermines the life of peaceful people.
It was the Serbs that stood up to the Turks in many battles in Kosovo not you Albanian chickens who converted to Islam in the blink of an eye in order to avoid persecution.
Trump just authorized the pull out of the US army from Syria and Secretary of Defense Mattis is out. Rumours are now floating around that the US army is pulling out of Afghanistan as well. Doesn't make sense since many of the opiates transit routes are through Kosovo managed by the Albanian KLA Terrorists in Kosovo. The Albanian KLA terrorists may be out of business. Trump should close down Camp Bondsteel and put these Albanian KLA bandits permanently out of business.
trizo: I am not talking about the cases since 1999, when people had to
By census already in the 60s they were majority in Kosovo. You want now to kick out the people that live there for several generations?
This would be the same that happens to many serbs in croatia, bosnia and Kosovo.
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This has already happened to the Serbs.
Did you forget Oluja?
How many can't return to Kosovo? They have lived in Kosovo for longer than Albanians. I bet you didn't even give them a second thought.
There are Serbs today who still don't have a home and will never be able to go back.
So what makes the K-Albanians special that they can kick all non Albanians out and keep them out while not having a border with Albania and allowing who knows who to get in?
When Serbs get justice and are welcome back to their homes Albanians can hope to get more.
Tito- if I may join in,the only solution is partition. The irony is Serbia needs to to leave the Albanians and not the other way. What to do with 2 million layabouts.
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Is there really 2 million? I thought half had left by now.
Then Serbia can deport some as there are sure illegal ones there now as well.
Let's not forget the decent Albanians who are held hostage just as much as Serbs are by the KLA.
Then we can expect return of the expelled Serbs and other non Albanians from Kosovo.
Now it's starting to look more and more manageable.
Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries.
How Russia army can get in Serbia?They have to go through NATO members...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 20 December 2018 17:37)
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What do yo think NATO will do about that?
The only reason the would have to try to stop the planes at their own enormeous cost would be to defend Kosovo which not all the members have recognized.
What sort of a dilemma does this pose for you?
Let’s get some facts straight.
First, Kosova has always been Albanian
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@BE, for once will you people provide some evidence of this?
How many of you have to be asked for just one to provide some evidence?
Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries.
How Russia army can get in Serbia?They have to go through NATO members...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 20 December 2018 17:37)
NATO is going to stop Russian Transport planes from landing in Belgrade?
Camp Bondsteel only has up to four hundred US troops at a time. This base was built to monitor and react to future conflicts regarding the transport of oil and pipelines from the Caspian Sea. The base was built without the approval of Kosovo or Serbia. Nothing more than the invasion of Kosovo using KLA terrorists as a proxy.
Otvoreno pismo predsedniku Srbije dramskog umetnika: Kako je izneverena moja vera u Vučića
Da li smo u vremenima zla, koja smo činili na Kosovu, brisali razliku i bili oni, koji su nas za vreme Drugog svetskog rata ubijali, 50 naših za jednog ranjenog nemačkog vojnika i 100 ubijenih za ubijenog okupatora?
...Bolton and the rest have told Trump to send a message to the Balkans for one reason only, Camp Bondsteel. Serbia's only counter is to build Camp Russia right on the doorstep...
Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries.
How Russia army can get in Serbia?They have to go through NATO members...
Bolton and the rest have told Trump to send a message to the Balkans for one reason only, Camp Bondsteel. Serbia's only counter is to build Camp Russia right on the doorstep, Presevo is a prime spot and pay the Albanians $1.00 per hour to build it. Thaci and his KLA terrorist regime will face harsh reality very soon. The other Albanian politicians have no balls to counter these terrorists.
Trump is politely letting EU know that US is ready to mediate this dialogue so they don't spend another 10 years shaking hands and taking pics without anything being done. Also, US is trying to wake up serbia so they can accept the reality that Kosova has been independent for a decade now and that is time to finish dialogues and not drag them for 10 years. If US was mediating this dialogue they would keep both parties responsible unlike EU that had serbia sign agreements but they never fulfilled those agreements.
Serbs fought for Kosovo multiple times before you shittards even walked on its soil. In the 1400's serbs accounted for over 95% of its population you baboons.
(Zo, 20 December 2018 14:48)
You fight Slovenia, Croatia too so what did you get out of it ??? Oh maybe you talking about the LOST battle of Kosova, that doesn’t mean you war fighting “for Kosova “ but the battle took place in Kosova. After the battle was over the leftovers retweet it back to the NORTH, you had no houses in Kosova ok. You been fighting with all your neighbors all your life , if we at baboon what makes you???
@Helsingborg: explain this to serbian and albanian hardcore nationalists.
A problem in the split would be the serbs leaving more south.
But after the bloody 90s the currently best and only realistic option.
Or why not to make a new balkan state, in which albania and serbia unify. That would be an impressive move for living together. Then no further discussions about Kosovo would be needed it belongs to both sides.
By ancesters we are the same anyway.
@trizo: I am not talking about the cases since 1999, when people had to
By census already in the 60s they were majority in Kosovo. You want now to kick out the people that live there for several generations?
This would be the same that happens to many serbs in croatia, bosnia and Kosovo. But also to bosnians and croats in today serbian parts in bosnia.
What about Vojvodina in that case, it belonged centuries to hungary.
Or do we give all back to roman empire?
Jesus Christ are Serbs sick! It never ends with them! You’d think Kosova declaring an army and America specifically saying that Kosova is an “independent country” by their own words and text that they would understand who’s side America is on.
No, Serbia wants to double down on some ridiculous and insane idea that Trump put “delimitation on the table”. Not sure what document you read, but the one Hashim Thaci recurved says nothing about that.
This is a classic example of how Serbia finds themselves on the receiving end of 78 days of NATO bombs. Their media cooks up bizarre conspiracy theories like this, the population is willfully ignorant and wants to believe the conspiracy then they engage in attacks, murders, rapes, genocide. Rinse and repeat. Serbs never learn. Anyway, enjoy your conspiracy theory if it helps you sleep at night.
Kosova Army 100% now and forever!
100% tax STILL REMAINS!
i have someting new that is new for the capitalists from West to in special for international monetary fund and world bank today our national statistic released a table of final gdp grow for last years and 2017 .
in 2017 the gdp had grow with exactly 7% not with 6,8%
in 2008 the gdp had grow with +9,3% not with +8% as we tought and same IMF and WORLD BANK as for 2009 the gdp had go down with -5,5% not with -7% , as for 2012 the gdp had grow with 2% not with 1%
We have now a better system for calculate + now is definitive so taking in consideration in comparable prices Greece gdp is with 10% more big will be interesting this changes
the whole gdp for 2017 was 858 billions lei not 770 billions
actualy world bank is smarter than imf here is gdp ranking imf say Romania 24000 dollars , world bank say 26000 dollars same as eurostat Greece have 27800. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
anyway even world bank will have to update
Folks you know why we had grow in 2017 with +7% ? because we have big potential more big potential than Croatia , Hungary and Poland in special than Croatia
And we are the only one from Balkan who will overtake Greece as gdp per capita , i have to admit world bank are smarter in calculate and predictions than imf
"Donald Trump has practically put delimitation as a solution to the Kosovo problem officially on the table. That's according to Belgrade-based daily Blic."
LOL. All it took was one letter and Serbian fake news medias started going crazy, spinning words faster than Trump can say them.
Trump's message to Vucic comes before the Kosovo recognition agreement and it's very clear. You cannot talk about normalization with Kosovo and do everything to destabilize it behind its back. Kosovo is a done deal and if Vucic doesn't sign it, fire and fury will rain over Serbia. The only delimitation will happen in Presheva.
I’m laughing at your brainless and brainwashed comments, which you Siberian people leave on this webpage.
Let’s get some facts straight.
First, Kosova has always been Albanian. The real map of Serbia is from the year 1815, what comes next is stolen land.
Second, everything the Serbian government says (including Serbian newspaper), is 110% propaganda. I understand why you guys are confused all the time and why you leave brainless comments.
Third, I would advise the Serbian government to spend the money on your education system instead of throwing the money away on trying to block Kosova from joining the UN.
As a bonus:
Today I will teach you something. Look at the Albanian language. Beautiful and unique. Did you know that the word “Serb” actually means “Not-albanian” in our language :D Wooow. You just learned something new.
Let me explain. The old Albanians called themselves “arb” or “arberesh”, and we often put an “s” in front of words, to explain something, which is not. So, when you guys came from Russia, we called you "not-albanians" or “s’arb”, to remind our self that you guys are not from here. So, from the word “sarb” became “serb”.
I will leave you with this, so you can have some time, to digest this awesome information 😉
Albanians weren't even the majority in Kosovo until the mid 1800's stop lying about your history because you have none. Serbs fought for Kosovo multiple times before you shittards even walked on its soil. In the 1400's serbs accounted for over 95% of its population you baboons.
@Jovan: I personal think too that people in Kosovo must be liberated from the government in pristina, but also that Serbia must be liberated from the government in Belgrade.
I am not sure how the Kosovo Albanians which are a clear majority for quiet a while would see this liberation? On the other side do you think serbian nationalists want to bring around a million kosovo albanians into serbia? Do not forget they can then settle down all over serbia and in a few generations they would be the majority in serbia. Which is totally ok with me, but not sure how you like that idea.
I just would like to know how you think the liberation shall be done? Military? Buying land from people there? Settle down there and make a lot of children?
Tito- if I may join in,the only solution is partition. The irony is Serbia needs to to leave the Albanians and not the other way. What to do with 2 million layabouts. They’ll just claim welfare, breed like rabbits which Serbs will pay for, then try and take control through lies and theft.
Clean break now. North to Serbia. U.N. guaranteed acces to holy sites. Profit share on trepca?
I just would like to know how you think the liberation shall be done? Military? Buying land from people there? Settle down there and make a lot of children?
(Tito reloaded, 20 December 2018 13:02)
"Buying land" hahaha is that how you think the Albanians put a roof over their heads in Kosovo?
I think before you comment, maybe you should do some research into how Albanians became the majority. And no, changing laws and removing land titles from registries is not an acceptable reason.
Then perhaps you'd understand that the majority of their occupation has come from illegal measures.
There will be no deal. It will be the entire Kosovo and nothing else. Serbs have not put up with sanctions and hard times to give it away now. Once you have them on the run you keep pushing until they give in and they will give in.
Second major crack in the US armour. The first being the sudden withdrawal of US troops from Syria.
Its all about money or lack of it. Twenty second trillion spending starts in 3 to 4 weeks and the economy is not that great despite all those "jobs" being created. Its not just the US but the EU has stopped printing money because it has not succeeded in kick starting its economy.
We are all in a precarious position because it will not take much for economies to crash around us.
How about America don’t decide. What about Russia’s solution? Keep Kosovo as an autonomous province of Serbia. Better solution.
Poor Albanians came from Albania and populated Kosovo in the 20th century. After years of breeding like rabbits & brutal clan tactics of evicting Serbs, they eventually formed a majority. They assumed and stole the land they are proud of.
Can’t you see that based on these mere facts that Serbs wouldn’t ever give up on Kosovo which has so just history and cultural importance for many more years than Albanians? Yes they had pockets of them living there longer than 100 years but it was never an important place for them. Except for giving up their beliefs to appease Turkish occupiers. Shameful.
Another clear sign for the fading Power of the US-Empire.
I personally am against any cheap Deal on Kim, because it's serbian land as a whole.
Why ging presents to some cheap criminals who have no justified claim on it whatsoever, when times are changing in favour of Serbia?
And that is something that should be clear to everyone, Serbia will liberate it's southern province - one way or another.
So no Deals with the US when they try to secure a part of KiM because they know that their influence is only going to fade away further.
Oh dear will Haradinaj and Thaci risk playing game of chicken with US while the game with EU still unfolding ?
They know what they have to do to get talks moving again - rescind their illegal tariffs and illegal (even according to their EU dictated constitution) so that the EU talks on more than autonomy and less than independence can be congratulated by Trump in the white house.
Come on seize the moment for the good of all peoples in Serbia's UN recognised southern province. Time for a historic win win through genuine compromise - more than autonomy and less than independence through delimitation. Its perhaps a federation plus.
Oh dear will Haradinaj and Thaci risk playing game of chicken with US while the game with EU still unfolding ?
They know what they have to do to get talks moving again - rescind their illegal tariffs and illegal (even according to their EU dictated constitution) so that the EU talks on more than autonomy and less than independence can be congratulated by Trump in the white house.
Come on seize the moment for the good of all peoples in Serbia's UN recognised southern province. Time for a historic win win through genuine compromise - more than autonomy and less than independence through delimitation. Its perhaps a federation plus.
Jesus Christ are Serbs sick! It never ends with them! You’d think Kosova declaring an army and America specifically saying that Kosova is an “independent country” by their own words and text that they would understand who’s side America is on.
No, Serbia wants to double down on some ridiculous and insane idea that Trump put “delimitation on the table”. Not sure what document you read, but the one Hashim Thaci recurved says nothing about that.
This is a classic example of how Serbia finds themselves on the receiving end of 78 days of NATO bombs. Their media cooks up bizarre conspiracy theories like this, the population is willfully ignorant and wants to believe the conspiracy then they engage in attacks, murders, rapes, genocide. Rinse and repeat. Serbs never learn. Anyway, enjoy your conspiracy theory if it helps you sleep at night.
Kosova Army 100% now and forever!
100% tax STILL REMAINS!
How about America don’t decide. What about Russia’s solution? Keep Kosovo as an autonomous province of Serbia. Better solution.
Poor Albanians came from Albania and populated Kosovo in the 20th century. After years of breeding like rabbits & brutal clan tactics of evicting Serbs, they eventually formed a majority. They assumed and stole the land they are proud of.
Can’t you see that based on these mere facts that Serbs wouldn’t ever give up on Kosovo which has so just history and cultural importance for many more years than Albanians? Yes they had pockets of them living there longer than 100 years but it was never an important place for them. Except for giving up their beliefs to appease Turkish occupiers. Shameful.
Another clear sign for the fading Power of the US-Empire.
I personally am against any cheap Deal on Kim, because it's serbian land as a whole.
Why ging presents to some cheap criminals who have no justified claim on it whatsoever, when times are changing in favour of Serbia?
And that is something that should be clear to everyone, Serbia will liberate it's southern province - one way or another.
So no Deals with the US when they try to secure a part of KiM because they know that their influence is only going to fade away further.
There will be no deal. It will be the entire Kosovo and nothing else. Serbs have not put up with sanctions and hard times to give it away now. Once you have them on the run you keep pushing until they give in and they will give in.
Second major crack in the US armour. The first being the sudden withdrawal of US troops from Syria.
Its all about money or lack of it. Twenty second trillion spending starts in 3 to 4 weeks and the economy is not that great despite all those "jobs" being created. Its not just the US but the EU has stopped printing money because it has not succeeded in kick starting its economy.
We are all in a precarious position because it will not take much for economies to crash around us.
I’m laughing at your brainless and brainwashed comments, which you Siberian people leave on this webpage.
Let’s get some facts straight.
First, Kosova has always been Albanian. The real map of Serbia is from the year 1815, what comes next is stolen land.
Second, everything the Serbian government says (including Serbian newspaper), is 110% propaganda. I understand why you guys are confused all the time and why you leave brainless comments.
Third, I would advise the Serbian government to spend the money on your education system instead of throwing the money away on trying to block Kosova from joining the UN.
As a bonus:
Today I will teach you something. Look at the Albanian language. Beautiful and unique. Did you know that the word “Serb” actually means “Not-albanian” in our language :D Wooow. You just learned something new.
Let me explain. The old Albanians called themselves “arb” or “arberesh”, and we often put an “s” in front of words, to explain something, which is not. So, when you guys came from Russia, we called you "not-albanians" or “s’arb”, to remind our self that you guys are not from here. So, from the word “sarb” became “serb”.
I will leave you with this, so you can have some time, to digest this awesome information 😉
Albanians weren't even the majority in Kosovo until the mid 1800's stop lying about your history because you have none. Serbs fought for Kosovo multiple times before you shittards even walked on its soil. In the 1400's serbs accounted for over 95% of its population you baboons.
"Donald Trump has practically put delimitation as a solution to the Kosovo problem officially on the table. That's according to Belgrade-based daily Blic."
LOL. All it took was one letter and Serbian fake news medias started going crazy, spinning words faster than Trump can say them.
Trump's message to Vucic comes before the Kosovo recognition agreement and it's very clear. You cannot talk about normalization with Kosovo and do everything to destabilize it behind its back. Kosovo is a done deal and if Vucic doesn't sign it, fire and fury will rain over Serbia. The only delimitation will happen in Presheva.
@Jovan: I personal think too that people in Kosovo must be liberated from the government in pristina, but also that Serbia must be liberated from the government in Belgrade.
I am not sure how the Kosovo Albanians which are a clear majority for quiet a while would see this liberation? On the other side do you think serbian nationalists want to bring around a million kosovo albanians into serbia? Do not forget they can then settle down all over serbia and in a few generations they would be the majority in serbia. Which is totally ok with me, but not sure how you like that idea.
I just would like to know how you think the liberation shall be done? Military? Buying land from people there? Settle down there and make a lot of children?
Serbs fought for Kosovo multiple times before you shittards even walked on its soil. In the 1400's serbs accounted for over 95% of its population you baboons.
(Zo, 20 December 2018 14:48)
You fight Slovenia, Croatia too so what did you get out of it ??? Oh maybe you talking about the LOST battle of Kosova, that doesn’t mean you war fighting “for Kosova “ but the battle took place in Kosova. After the battle was over the leftovers retweet it back to the NORTH, you had no houses in Kosova ok. You been fighting with all your neighbors all your life , if we at baboon what makes you???
Trump is politely letting EU know that US is ready to mediate this dialogue so they don't spend another 10 years shaking hands and taking pics without anything being done. Also, US is trying to wake up serbia so they can accept the reality that Kosova has been independent for a decade now and that is time to finish dialogues and not drag them for 10 years. If US was mediating this dialogue they would keep both parties responsible unlike EU that had serbia sign agreements but they never fulfilled those agreements.
Bolton and the rest have told Trump to send a message to the Balkans for one reason only, Camp Bondsteel. Serbia's only counter is to build Camp Russia right on the doorstep, Presevo is a prime spot and pay the Albanians $1.00 per hour to build it. Thaci and his KLA terrorist regime will face harsh reality very soon. The other Albanian politicians have no balls to counter these terrorists.
Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries.
How Russia army can get in Serbia?They have to go through NATO members...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 20 December 2018 17:37)
NATO is going to stop Russian Transport planes from landing in Belgrade?
Camp Bondsteel only has up to four hundred US troops at a time. This base was built to monitor and react to future conflicts regarding the transport of oil and pipelines from the Caspian Sea. The base was built without the approval of Kosovo or Serbia. Nothing more than the invasion of Kosovo using KLA terrorists as a proxy.
I just would like to know how you think the liberation shall be done? Military? Buying land from people there? Settle down there and make a lot of children?
(Tito reloaded, 20 December 2018 13:02)
"Buying land" hahaha is that how you think the Albanians put a roof over their heads in Kosovo?
I think before you comment, maybe you should do some research into how Albanians became the majority. And no, changing laws and removing land titles from registries is not an acceptable reason.
Then perhaps you'd understand that the majority of their occupation has come from illegal measures.
Tito- if I may join in,the only solution is partition. The irony is Serbia needs to to leave the Albanians and not the other way. What to do with 2 million layabouts. They’ll just claim welfare, breed like rabbits which Serbs will pay for, then try and take control through lies and theft.
Clean break now. North to Serbia. U.N. guaranteed acces to holy sites. Profit share on trepca?
@trizo: I am not talking about the cases since 1999, when people had to
By census already in the 60s they were majority in Kosovo. You want now to kick out the people that live there for several generations?
This would be the same that happens to many serbs in croatia, bosnia and Kosovo. But also to bosnians and croats in today serbian parts in bosnia.
What about Vojvodina in that case, it belonged centuries to hungary.
Or do we give all back to roman empire?
...Bolton and the rest have told Trump to send a message to the Balkans for one reason only, Camp Bondsteel. Serbia's only counter is to build Camp Russia right on the doorstep...
Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries.
How Russia army can get in Serbia?They have to go through NATO members...
Otvoreno pismo predsedniku Srbije dramskog umetnika: Kako je izneverena moja vera u Vučića
Da li smo u vremenima zla, koja smo činili na Kosovu, brisali razliku i bili oni, koji su nas za vreme Drugog svetskog rata ubijali, 50 naših za jednog ranjenog nemačkog vojnika i 100 ubijenih za ubijenog okupatora?
Trump just authorized the pull out of the US army from Syria and Secretary of Defense Mattis is out. Rumours are now floating around that the US army is pulling out of Afghanistan as well. Doesn't make sense since many of the opiates transit routes are through Kosovo managed by the Albanian KLA Terrorists in Kosovo. The Albanian KLA terrorists may be out of business. Trump should close down Camp Bondsteel and put these Albanian KLA bandits permanently out of business.
It was the Serbs that stood up to the Turks in many battles in Kosovo not you Albanian chickens who converted to Islam in the blink of an eye in order to avoid persecution.
i want to irrarate the comments that were made in the above articles, first of all politics is a complex game, one day you have two enemies and next friends and vise versa, but to get to the point i find that usa wants to arm the enemy of its oppenants that dont want to bow down to its supremacy, all nato countries take dialgue and instructions from the great usa.but there are countries out there that are non aligned to either great russia and usa but dont want to be dragged in thier conflicts or supression for greater idology. myself personally coming from yugoslavia during war period left great scars and resenment as a youth, but i found a better life in canada where i can hold a job nit be discrimanted entirly, and can hold a sense opion. i loved my country but i found a second home and for 24 years i found a way to integrate into canadian culture, learn and prosper to become a better sociely and make friends for a lifetime. i dont judgee others or high profile someones ethnicti, relgion, occuption, etc. i love the canadain way of life and its inception. others should to. i think weapons and war should be the last thing on how to resolve political dispute.
Let’s get some facts straight.
First, Kosova has always been Albanian
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@BE, for once will you people provide some evidence of this?
How many of you have to be asked for just one to provide some evidence?
Tito- if I may join in,the only solution is partition. The irony is Serbia needs to to leave the Albanians and not the other way. What to do with 2 million layabouts.
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Is there really 2 million? I thought half had left by now.
Then Serbia can deport some as there are sure illegal ones there now as well.
Let's not forget the decent Albanians who are held hostage just as much as Serbs are by the KLA.
Then we can expect return of the expelled Serbs and other non Albanians from Kosovo.
Now it's starting to look more and more manageable.
trizo: I am not talking about the cases since 1999, when people had to
By census already in the 60s they were majority in Kosovo. You want now to kick out the people that live there for several generations?
This would be the same that happens to many serbs in croatia, bosnia and Kosovo.
======================
This has already happened to the Serbs.
Did you forget Oluja?
How many can't return to Kosovo? They have lived in Kosovo for longer than Albanians. I bet you didn't even give them a second thought.
There are Serbs today who still don't have a home and will never be able to go back.
So what makes the K-Albanians special that they can kick all non Albanians out and keep them out while not having a border with Albania and allowing who knows who to get in?
When Serbs get justice and are welcome back to their homes Albanians can hope to get more.
Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries.
How Russia army can get in Serbia?They have to go through NATO members...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 20 December 2018 17:37)
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What do yo think NATO will do about that?
The only reason the would have to try to stop the planes at their own enormeous cost would be to defend Kosovo which not all the members have recognized.
What sort of a dilemma does this pose for you?
Simple solution. Ship Azir, avni, Lenard, Peter the Rocky Mountains, sj, Peggy, Zhukov, etc. to Liberland. Give it a month. Problem will solve itself and there will be peace in the Balkans. Or at least on b92!
(JS, 21 December 2018 17:02)
Things were more quiet here before Joe, the famous Greek-Catholic imbecile Nazi from fenced community in NY, also known as "Mutyuli" somewhere else.
I happen to talk with Peggy and sj before Joe dropped on B92. It was a different and more peaceful time. I don't recall you during the Joe time, not sure about Lenard. I think only Peggy, sj and Roger7 are the remaining few. There was "Rocky" as well, without "Peter" and "Mountains". I believe, he changed his nick after learning, "Rocky" alias Sylvester Stallone is largely a Russian guy from Odessa.
I find it bizarre that the Kosovo conflict is now 20 year old but things on B92 are getting worse.
Or why not to make a new balkan state, in which albania and serbia unify. That would be an impressive move for living together. Then no further discussions about Kosovo would be needed it belongs to both sides.
By ancesters we are the same anyway.
(Tito reloaded, 20 December 2018 15:53)
That's just genius. Nikola Pasic was right after WWI about building a unitary Serbian state without Croatia who were always stirring up trouble under Hungarian rule. The allies dangled the Dalmatian coast to the Serbs if they created this Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes and the Serbs fell for it. Tito on the other hand made it worse by dividing the Serbs further with the creation of Autonomous regions of Kosovo, Macedonia, and Vojvodina with the help of the Communist Milovan Djilas. Why wasn't Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina divided up?
i want to irrarate the comments that were made in the above articles, first of all politics is a complex game, one day you have two enemies and next friends and vise versa, but to get to the point i find that usa wants to arm the enemy of its oppenants that dont want to bow down to its supremacy, all nato countries take dialgue and instructions from the great usa.but there are countries out there that are non aligned to either great russia and usa but dont want to be dragged in thier conflicts or supression for greater idology. myself personally coming from yugoslavia during war period left great scars and resenment as a youth, but i found a better life in canada where i can hold a job nit be discrimanted entirly, and can hold a sense opion. i loved my country but i found a second home and for 24 years i found a way to integrate into canadian culture, learn and prosper to become a better sociely and make friends for a lifetime. i dont judgee others or high profile someones ethnicti, relgion, occuption, etc. i love the canadain way of life and its inception. others should to. i think weapons and war should be the last thing on how to resolve political dispute.
i have someting new that is new for the capitalists from West to in special for international monetary fund and world bank today our national statistic released a table of final gdp grow for last years and 2017 .
in 2017 the gdp had grow with exactly 7% not with 6,8%
in 2008 the gdp had grow with +9,3% not with +8% as we tought and same IMF and WORLD BANK as for 2009 the gdp had go down with -5,5% not with -7% , as for 2012 the gdp had grow with 2% not with 1%
We have now a better system for calculate + now is definitive so taking in consideration in comparable prices Greece gdp is with 10% more big will be interesting this changes
the whole gdp for 2017 was 858 billions lei not 770 billions
actualy world bank is smarter than imf here is gdp ranking imf say Romania 24000 dollars , world bank say 26000 dollars same as eurostat Greece have 27800. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
anyway even world bank will have to update
Folks you know why we had grow in 2017 with +7% ? because we have big potential more big potential than Croatia , Hungary and Poland in special than Croatia
And we are the only one from Balkan who will overtake Greece as gdp per capita , i have to admit world bank are smarter in calculate and predictions than imf
@Helsingborg: explain this to serbian and albanian hardcore nationalists.
A problem in the split would be the serbs leaving more south.
But after the bloody 90s the currently best and only realistic option.
Or why not to make a new balkan state, in which albania and serbia unify. That would be an impressive move for living together. Then no further discussions about Kosovo would be needed it belongs to both sides.
By ancesters we are the same anyway.
"The act of revenge has to stop, catholic and muslim bosnians also will never return to some now only orthodox populated villages.
Who is in the books now shall stay in the books. Where people got deported by force they shall get compensation or the chance to move back.
Some Albanians do not want Serbs and some Serbs do not want to live with Albanians. So what to do, not everybody can be satisfied. I call for unification and a peacefull future, but we all have to supress the nationalists for that. I would make a small area for radical albanians where they can move one for radical serbs. And whoever wants to live in the none radical areas must face severe punishments if he undermines the life of peaceful people." (Tito reloaded, 21 December 2018 16:00)
Simple solution. Ship Azir, avni, Lenard, Peter the Rocky Mountains, sj, Peggy, Zhukov, etc. to Liberland. Give it a month. Problem will solve itself and there will be peace in the Balkans. Or at least on b92!
I doubt that they are more than a month per year in the region.
But I would even offer them our ground and broadcast live. I guess Pink would finally have a serious opponent for farma. :)
"Fire and fury hasn't rained over Serbia in the last 10 years that they haven't recognized Kosovo"
(Zoo)
Zoo, it's different now, the West's patience is ending, especially with Russia causing trouble in the Ukraine. Nobody wants more frozen conflicts, especially fake conflicts that were solved 20 years ago, but are kept alive for political games.
This drama is coming to an end now. Everyone is tired of it, especially the West and even most Serbs. Trump especially has no patience for it. I give it 2-3 months.
@Jugoslavija: autonomous province macedonia? Macedonia was already before ww2 a special case. And it is not that anybody should be proud of what the King did there.
Further Vojvodina was an additional vote on federal level for serbia.
But anyway once you blamed already Tito and the communists for the wars in the 90s. I can not remember that at any point of time they said take the weapons and start killing eachother. That were the nationalists from the republics, that started the wars and poisened people with fear and hate through their propaganda.
And the worst is, this kind of people are still at power in the new states and they still play the game of fear and hate.
You like to follow them that is your right. I travel freely without prejudice to slovenia, croatia, bosnia, macedonia and montenegro. People are people more or less same amount of each kind everywhere.
This would be the same that happens to many serbs in croatia, bosnia and Kosovo.
===…==
This has already happened to the Serbs.
Did you forget Oluja?
How many can't return to Kosovo?
(Peggy)
your questions was already answered above, sorry for my time mistake, 'hapens' with 'happened'.
I think that serbs should be allowed to return. In theory they are, but I understand it contains a certain risk and considering that 19 to 27 years past, many started a new life. We have several neighbours from Kosovo and Croatia, they got their lifes under control.
Even if serbia would gain control they would not move back, their children grow up here.
The act of revenge has to stop, catholic and muslim bosnians also will never return to some now only orthodox populated villages.
Who is in the books now shall stay in the books. Where people got deported by force they shall get compensation or the chance to move back.
Some Albanians do not want Serbs and some Serbs do not want to live with Albanians. So what to do, not everybody can be satisfied. I call for unification and a peacefull future, but we all have to supress the nationalists for that. I would make a small area for radical albanians where they can move one for radical serbs. And whoever wants to live in the none radical areas must face severe punishments if he undermines the life of peaceful people.
"Things were more quiet here before Joe, the famous Greek-Catholic imbecile Nazi from fenced community in NY, also known as "Mutyuli" somewhere else.
I happen to talk with Peggy and sj before Joe dropped on B92. It was a different and more peaceful time. I don't recall you during the Joe time, not sure about Lenard. I think only Peggy, sj and Roger7 are the remaining few."
When precisely was that time?
"There was "Rocky" as well, without "Peter" and "Mountains". I believe, he changed his nick after learning, "Rocky" alias Sylvester Stallone is largely a Russian guy from Odessa."
LOL
"I find it bizarre that the Kosovo conflict is now 20 year old but things on B92 are getting worse." (Ataman, 21 December 2018 18:10)
I doubt that they are more than a month per year in the region.
But I would even offer them our ground and broadcast live. I guess Pink would finally have a serious opponent for farma. :)
(Tito reloaded, 21 December 2018 20:38)
People are people more or less same amount of each kind everywhere.
(Tito reloaded, 22 December 2018 18:52)
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Than you're willfully blind.
Do you not see how Popular Thomson is in Croatia?
It's not the leadership alone. Politicians are only giving people what they want. If hate and misinformation was on the nose of the people then politicians wouldn't find any benefit in playing that game would they?
Who are they pandering to if not the people? Why do they get even more rabid just before the elections? Because that's what people want to hear from them.
I have no doubt that people can pass through each other's territories in relative peace now just don't order any meals speaking in a Serbian dialect while in Croatia if you don't want a side of spit with your salad.
Trump especially has no patience for it. I give it 2-3 months.
(Genti, 22 December 2018 17:18
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Don't put your hopes on Trump. He has no stomach for war any more. He is picking up his toys and going home.
Also, as far as Trump is concerned Kosovo issue is not a done. He wants to negotiate unlike his predecessor Clinton and Obama.
Kosovo was NEVER a done deal. Only in your imagination.
Tell you something you probably never thought of. The ONLY way Serbia is getting bombed again is if WW3 starts. Nobody is going to bomb Serbia over Kosovo now unless they want to start WW3 and then all bets are off just like it was WW1 and WW2. Serbia came out on the winning side both times and your guys on the losing side.
Want to go three for three?
Simple solution. Ship Azir, avni, Lenard, Peter the Rocky Mountains, sj, Peggy, Zhukov, etc. to Liberland. Give it a month. Problem will solve itself and there will be peace in the Balkans. Or at least on b92!
(JS, 21 December 2018 17:02)
How about you going back to the USA? Its where you were born and you can fill them with your BS about brotherly love.
It would be more constructive if you saw things as they are rather than what you wish them to be.
..e.g. Trump has approved of the Kosova Army, otherwise why would he send a shipload of state of the art weapons to Kosova free of charge. Furthermore, the weapons meet NATO standards, this implies that Kosova is soon to join NATO and take over Camp Bondsteel with American advisors when Kfor leaves.
Oh dear will Haradinaj and Thaci risk playing game of chicken with US while the game with EU still unfolding ?
They know what they have to do to get talks moving again - rescind their illegal tariffs and illegal (even according to their EU dictated constitution) so that the EU talks on more than autonomy and less than independence can be congratulated by Trump in the white house.
Come on seize the moment for the good of all peoples in Serbia's UN recognised southern province. Time for a historic win win through genuine compromise - more than autonomy and less than independence through delimitation. Its perhaps a federation plus.
How about America don’t decide. What about Russia’s solution? Keep Kosovo as an autonomous province of Serbia. Better solution.
Poor Albanians came from Albania and populated Kosovo in the 20th century. After years of breeding like rabbits & brutal clan tactics of evicting Serbs, they eventually formed a majority. They assumed and stole the land they are proud of.
Can’t you see that based on these mere facts that Serbs wouldn’t ever give up on Kosovo which has so just history and cultural importance for many more years than Albanians? Yes they had pockets of them living there longer than 100 years but it was never an important place for them. Except for giving up their beliefs to appease Turkish occupiers. Shameful.
I’m laughing at your brainless and brainwashed comments, which you Siberian people leave on this webpage.
Let’s get some facts straight.
First, Kosova has always been Albanian. The real map of Serbia is from the year 1815, what comes next is stolen land.
Second, everything the Serbian government says (including Serbian newspaper), is 110% propaganda. I understand why you guys are confused all the time and why you leave brainless comments.
Third, I would advise the Serbian government to spend the money on your education system instead of throwing the money away on trying to block Kosova from joining the UN.
As a bonus:
Today I will teach you something. Look at the Albanian language. Beautiful and unique. Did you know that the word “Serb” actually means “Not-albanian” in our language :D Wooow. You just learned something new.
Let me explain. The old Albanians called themselves “arb” or “arberesh”, and we often put an “s” in front of words, to explain something, which is not. So, when you guys came from Russia, we called you "not-albanians" or “s’arb”, to remind our self that you guys are not from here. So, from the word “sarb” became “serb”.
I will leave you with this, so you can have some time, to digest this awesome information 😉
There will be no deal. It will be the entire Kosovo and nothing else. Serbs have not put up with sanctions and hard times to give it away now. Once you have them on the run you keep pushing until they give in and they will give in.
Second major crack in the US armour. The first being the sudden withdrawal of US troops from Syria.
Its all about money or lack of it. Twenty second trillion spending starts in 3 to 4 weeks and the economy is not that great despite all those "jobs" being created. Its not just the US but the EU has stopped printing money because it has not succeeded in kick starting its economy.
We are all in a precarious position because it will not take much for economies to crash around us.
Jesus Christ are Serbs sick! It never ends with them! You’d think Kosova declaring an army and America specifically saying that Kosova is an “independent country” by their own words and text that they would understand who’s side America is on.
No, Serbia wants to double down on some ridiculous and insane idea that Trump put “delimitation on the table”. Not sure what document you read, but the one Hashim Thaci recurved says nothing about that.
This is a classic example of how Serbia finds themselves on the receiving end of 78 days of NATO bombs. Their media cooks up bizarre conspiracy theories like this, the population is willfully ignorant and wants to believe the conspiracy then they engage in attacks, murders, rapes, genocide. Rinse and repeat. Serbs never learn. Anyway, enjoy your conspiracy theory if it helps you sleep at night.
Kosova Army 100% now and forever!
100% tax STILL REMAINS!
@Helsingborg: explain this to serbian and albanian hardcore nationalists.
A problem in the split would be the serbs leaving more south.
But after the bloody 90s the currently best and only realistic option.
Or why not to make a new balkan state, in which albania and serbia unify. That would be an impressive move for living together. Then no further discussions about Kosovo would be needed it belongs to both sides.
By ancesters we are the same anyway.
Another clear sign for the fading Power of the US-Empire.
I personally am against any cheap Deal on Kim, because it's serbian land as a whole.
Why ging presents to some cheap criminals who have no justified claim on it whatsoever, when times are changing in favour of Serbia?
And that is something that should be clear to everyone, Serbia will liberate it's southern province - one way or another.
So no Deals with the US when they try to secure a part of KiM because they know that their influence is only going to fade away further.
Bolton and the rest have told Trump to send a message to the Balkans for one reason only, Camp Bondsteel. Serbia's only counter is to build Camp Russia right on the doorstep, Presevo is a prime spot and pay the Albanians $1.00 per hour to build it. Thaci and his KLA terrorist regime will face harsh reality very soon. The other Albanian politicians have no balls to counter these terrorists.
Tito- if I may join in,the only solution is partition. The irony is Serbia needs to to leave the Albanians and not the other way. What to do with 2 million layabouts. They’ll just claim welfare, breed like rabbits which Serbs will pay for, then try and take control through lies and theft.
Clean break now. North to Serbia. U.N. guaranteed acces to holy sites. Profit share on trepca?
Albanians weren't even the majority in Kosovo until the mid 1800's stop lying about your history because you have none. Serbs fought for Kosovo multiple times before you shittards even walked on its soil. In the 1400's serbs accounted for over 95% of its population you baboons.
Serbs fought for Kosovo multiple times before you shittards even walked on its soil. In the 1400's serbs accounted for over 95% of its population you baboons.
(Zo, 20 December 2018 14:48)
You fight Slovenia, Croatia too so what did you get out of it ??? Oh maybe you talking about the LOST battle of Kosova, that doesn’t mean you war fighting “for Kosova “ but the battle took place in Kosova. After the battle was over the leftovers retweet it back to the NORTH, you had no houses in Kosova ok. You been fighting with all your neighbors all your life , if we at baboon what makes you???
I just would like to know how you think the liberation shall be done? Military? Buying land from people there? Settle down there and make a lot of children?
(Tito reloaded, 20 December 2018 13:02)
"Buying land" hahaha is that how you think the Albanians put a roof over their heads in Kosovo?
I think before you comment, maybe you should do some research into how Albanians became the majority. And no, changing laws and removing land titles from registries is not an acceptable reason.
Then perhaps you'd understand that the majority of their occupation has come from illegal measures.
@Jovan: I personal think too that people in Kosovo must be liberated from the government in pristina, but also that Serbia must be liberated from the government in Belgrade.
I am not sure how the Kosovo Albanians which are a clear majority for quiet a while would see this liberation? On the other side do you think serbian nationalists want to bring around a million kosovo albanians into serbia? Do not forget they can then settle down all over serbia and in a few generations they would be the majority in serbia. Which is totally ok with me, but not sure how you like that idea.
I just would like to know how you think the liberation shall be done? Military? Buying land from people there? Settle down there and make a lot of children?
"Donald Trump has practically put delimitation as a solution to the Kosovo problem officially on the table. That's according to Belgrade-based daily Blic."
LOL. All it took was one letter and Serbian fake news medias started going crazy, spinning words faster than Trump can say them.
Trump's message to Vucic comes before the Kosovo recognition agreement and it's very clear. You cannot talk about normalization with Kosovo and do everything to destabilize it behind its back. Kosovo is a done deal and if Vucic doesn't sign it, fire and fury will rain over Serbia. The only delimitation will happen in Presheva.
Trump is politely letting EU know that US is ready to mediate this dialogue so they don't spend another 10 years shaking hands and taking pics without anything being done. Also, US is trying to wake up serbia so they can accept the reality that Kosova has been independent for a decade now and that is time to finish dialogues and not drag them for 10 years. If US was mediating this dialogue they would keep both parties responsible unlike EU that had serbia sign agreements but they never fulfilled those agreements.
i have someting new that is new for the capitalists from West to in special for international monetary fund and world bank today our national statistic released a table of final gdp grow for last years and 2017 .
in 2017 the gdp had grow with exactly 7% not with 6,8%
in 2008 the gdp had grow with +9,3% not with +8% as we tought and same IMF and WORLD BANK as for 2009 the gdp had go down with -5,5% not with -7% , as for 2012 the gdp had grow with 2% not with 1%
We have now a better system for calculate + now is definitive so taking in consideration in comparable prices Greece gdp is with 10% more big will be interesting this changes
the whole gdp for 2017 was 858 billions lei not 770 billions
actualy world bank is smarter than imf here is gdp ranking imf say Romania 24000 dollars , world bank say 26000 dollars same as eurostat Greece have 27800. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
anyway even world bank will have to update
Folks you know why we had grow in 2017 with +7% ? because we have big potential more big potential than Croatia , Hungary and Poland in special than Croatia
And we are the only one from Balkan who will overtake Greece as gdp per capita , i have to admit world bank are smarter in calculate and predictions than imf
...Bolton and the rest have told Trump to send a message to the Balkans for one reason only, Camp Bondsteel. Serbia's only counter is to build Camp Russia right on the doorstep...
Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries.
How Russia army can get in Serbia?They have to go through NATO members...
Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries.
How Russia army can get in Serbia?They have to go through NATO members...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 20 December 2018 17:37)
NATO is going to stop Russian Transport planes from landing in Belgrade?
Camp Bondsteel only has up to four hundred US troops at a time. This base was built to monitor and react to future conflicts regarding the transport of oil and pipelines from the Caspian Sea. The base was built without the approval of Kosovo or Serbia. Nothing more than the invasion of Kosovo using KLA terrorists as a proxy.
It was the Serbs that stood up to the Turks in many battles in Kosovo not you Albanian chickens who converted to Islam in the blink of an eye in order to avoid persecution.
@trizo: I am not talking about the cases since 1999, when people had to
By census already in the 60s they were majority in Kosovo. You want now to kick out the people that live there for several generations?
This would be the same that happens to many serbs in croatia, bosnia and Kosovo. But also to bosnians and croats in today serbian parts in bosnia.
What about Vojvodina in that case, it belonged centuries to hungary.
Or do we give all back to roman empire?
Otvoreno pismo predsedniku Srbije dramskog umetnika: Kako je izneverena moja vera u Vučića
Da li smo u vremenima zla, koja smo činili na Kosovu, brisali razliku i bili oni, koji su nas za vreme Drugog svetskog rata ubijali, 50 naših za jednog ranjenog nemačkog vojnika i 100 ubijenih za ubijenog okupatora?
Let’s get some facts straight.
First, Kosova has always been Albanian
===============================
@BE, for once will you people provide some evidence of this?
How many of you have to be asked for just one to provide some evidence?
Trump just authorized the pull out of the US army from Syria and Secretary of Defense Mattis is out. Rumours are now floating around that the US army is pulling out of Afghanistan as well. Doesn't make sense since many of the opiates transit routes are through Kosovo managed by the Albanian KLA Terrorists in Kosovo. The Albanian KLA terrorists may be out of business. Trump should close down Camp Bondsteel and put these Albanian KLA bandits permanently out of business.
Simple solution. Ship Azir, avni, Lenard, Peter the Rocky Mountains, sj, Peggy, Zhukov, etc. to Liberland. Give it a month. Problem will solve itself and there will be peace in the Balkans. Or at least on b92!
(JS, 21 December 2018 17:02)
Things were more quiet here before Joe, the famous Greek-Catholic imbecile Nazi from fenced community in NY, also known as "Mutyuli" somewhere else.
I happen to talk with Peggy and sj before Joe dropped on B92. It was a different and more peaceful time. I don't recall you during the Joe time, not sure about Lenard. I think only Peggy, sj and Roger7 are the remaining few. There was "Rocky" as well, without "Peter" and "Mountains". I believe, he changed his nick after learning, "Rocky" alias Sylvester Stallone is largely a Russian guy from Odessa.
I find it bizarre that the Kosovo conflict is now 20 year old but things on B92 are getting worse.
Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries.
How Russia army can get in Serbia?They have to go through NATO members...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 20 December 2018 17:37)
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What do yo think NATO will do about that?
The only reason the would have to try to stop the planes at their own enormeous cost would be to defend Kosovo which not all the members have recognized.
What sort of a dilemma does this pose for you?
Tito- if I may join in,the only solution is partition. The irony is Serbia needs to to leave the Albanians and not the other way. What to do with 2 million layabouts.
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Is there really 2 million? I thought half had left by now.
Then Serbia can deport some as there are sure illegal ones there now as well.
Let's not forget the decent Albanians who are held hostage just as much as Serbs are by the KLA.
Then we can expect return of the expelled Serbs and other non Albanians from Kosovo.
Now it's starting to look more and more manageable.
trizo: I am not talking about the cases since 1999, when people had to
By census already in the 60s they were majority in Kosovo. You want now to kick out the people that live there for several generations?
This would be the same that happens to many serbs in croatia, bosnia and Kosovo.
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This has already happened to the Serbs.
Did you forget Oluja?
How many can't return to Kosovo? They have lived in Kosovo for longer than Albanians. I bet you didn't even give them a second thought.
There are Serbs today who still don't have a home and will never be able to go back.
So what makes the K-Albanians special that they can kick all non Albanians out and keep them out while not having a border with Albania and allowing who knows who to get in?
When Serbs get justice and are welcome back to their homes Albanians can hope to get more.
"The act of revenge has to stop, catholic and muslim bosnians also will never return to some now only orthodox populated villages.
Who is in the books now shall stay in the books. Where people got deported by force they shall get compensation or the chance to move back.
Some Albanians do not want Serbs and some Serbs do not want to live with Albanians. So what to do, not everybody can be satisfied. I call for unification and a peacefull future, but we all have to supress the nationalists for that. I would make a small area for radical albanians where they can move one for radical serbs. And whoever wants to live in the none radical areas must face severe punishments if he undermines the life of peaceful people." (Tito reloaded, 21 December 2018 16:00)
Simple solution. Ship Azir, avni, Lenard, Peter the Rocky Mountains, sj, Peggy, Zhukov, etc. to Liberland. Give it a month. Problem will solve itself and there will be peace in the Balkans. Or at least on b92!
Or why not to make a new balkan state, in which albania and serbia unify. That would be an impressive move for living together. Then no further discussions about Kosovo would be needed it belongs to both sides.
By ancesters we are the same anyway.
(Tito reloaded, 20 December 2018 15:53)
That's just genius. Nikola Pasic was right after WWI about building a unitary Serbian state without Croatia who were always stirring up trouble under Hungarian rule. The allies dangled the Dalmatian coast to the Serbs if they created this Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes and the Serbs fell for it. Tito on the other hand made it worse by dividing the Serbs further with the creation of Autonomous regions of Kosovo, Macedonia, and Vojvodina with the help of the Communist Milovan Djilas. Why wasn't Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina divided up?
@Jugoslavija: autonomous province macedonia? Macedonia was already before ww2 a special case. And it is not that anybody should be proud of what the King did there.
Further Vojvodina was an additional vote on federal level for serbia.
But anyway once you blamed already Tito and the communists for the wars in the 90s. I can not remember that at any point of time they said take the weapons and start killing eachother. That were the nationalists from the republics, that started the wars and poisened people with fear and hate through their propaganda.
And the worst is, this kind of people are still at power in the new states and they still play the game of fear and hate.
You like to follow them that is your right. I travel freely without prejudice to slovenia, croatia, bosnia, macedonia and montenegro. People are people more or less same amount of each kind everywhere.
This would be the same that happens to many serbs in croatia, bosnia and Kosovo.
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This has already happened to the Serbs.
Did you forget Oluja?
How many can't return to Kosovo?
(Peggy)
your questions was already answered above, sorry for my time mistake, 'hapens' with 'happened'.
I think that serbs should be allowed to return. In theory they are, but I understand it contains a certain risk and considering that 19 to 27 years past, many started a new life. We have several neighbours from Kosovo and Croatia, they got their lifes under control.
Even if serbia would gain control they would not move back, their children grow up here.
The act of revenge has to stop, catholic and muslim bosnians also will never return to some now only orthodox populated villages.
Who is in the books now shall stay in the books. Where people got deported by force they shall get compensation or the chance to move back.
Some Albanians do not want Serbs and some Serbs do not want to live with Albanians. So what to do, not everybody can be satisfied. I call for unification and a peacefull future, but we all have to supress the nationalists for that. I would make a small area for radical albanians where they can move one for radical serbs. And whoever wants to live in the none radical areas must face severe punishments if he undermines the life of peaceful people.
"Things were more quiet here before Joe, the famous Greek-Catholic imbecile Nazi from fenced community in NY, also known as "Mutyuli" somewhere else.
I happen to talk with Peggy and sj before Joe dropped on B92. It was a different and more peaceful time. I don't recall you during the Joe time, not sure about Lenard. I think only Peggy, sj and Roger7 are the remaining few."
When precisely was that time?
"There was "Rocky" as well, without "Peter" and "Mountains". I believe, he changed his nick after learning, "Rocky" alias Sylvester Stallone is largely a Russian guy from Odessa."
LOL
"I find it bizarre that the Kosovo conflict is now 20 year old but things on B92 are getting worse." (Ataman, 21 December 2018 18:10)
"Fire and fury hasn't rained over Serbia in the last 10 years that they haven't recognized Kosovo"
(Zoo)
Zoo, it's different now, the West's patience is ending, especially with Russia causing trouble in the Ukraine. Nobody wants more frozen conflicts, especially fake conflicts that were solved 20 years ago, but are kept alive for political games.
This drama is coming to an end now. Everyone is tired of it, especially the West and even most Serbs. Trump especially has no patience for it. I give it 2-3 months.
Simple solution. Ship Azir, avni, Lenard, Peter the Rocky Mountains, sj, Peggy, Zhukov, etc. to Liberland. Give it a month. Problem will solve itself and there will be peace in the Balkans. Or at least on b92!
(JS, 21 December 2018 17:02)
How about you going back to the USA? Its where you were born and you can fill them with your BS about brotherly love.
I doubt that they are more than a month per year in the region.
But I would even offer them our ground and broadcast live. I guess Pink would finally have a serious opponent for farma. :)
(Tito reloaded, 21 December 2018 20:38)
People are people more or less same amount of each kind everywhere.
(Tito reloaded, 22 December 2018 18:52)
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Than you're willfully blind.
Do you not see how Popular Thomson is in Croatia?
It's not the leadership alone. Politicians are only giving people what they want. If hate and misinformation was on the nose of the people then politicians wouldn't find any benefit in playing that game would they?
Who are they pandering to if not the people? Why do they get even more rabid just before the elections? Because that's what people want to hear from them.
I have no doubt that people can pass through each other's territories in relative peace now just don't order any meals speaking in a Serbian dialect while in Croatia if you don't want a side of spit with your salad.
Trump especially has no patience for it. I give it 2-3 months.
(Genti, 22 December 2018 17:18
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Don't put your hopes on Trump. He has no stomach for war any more. He is picking up his toys and going home.
Also, as far as Trump is concerned Kosovo issue is not a done. He wants to negotiate unlike his predecessor Clinton and Obama.
Kosovo was NEVER a done deal. Only in your imagination.
Tell you something you probably never thought of. The ONLY way Serbia is getting bombed again is if WW3 starts. Nobody is going to bomb Serbia over Kosovo now unless they want to start WW3 and then all bets are off just like it was WW1 and WW2. Serbia came out on the winning side both times and your guys on the losing side.
Want to go three for three?
i want to irrarate the comments that were made in the above articles, first of all politics is a complex game, one day you have two enemies and next friends and vise versa, but to get to the point i find that usa wants to arm the enemy of its oppenants that dont want to bow down to its supremacy, all nato countries take dialgue and instructions from the great usa.but there are countries out there that are non aligned to either great russia and usa but dont want to be dragged in thier conflicts or supression for greater idology. myself personally coming from yugoslavia during war period left great scars and resenment as a youth, but i found a better life in canada where i can hold a job nit be discrimanted entirly, and can hold a sense opion. i loved my country but i found a second home and for 24 years i found a way to integrate into canadian culture, learn and prosper to become a better sociely and make friends for a lifetime. i dont judgee others or high profile someones ethnicti, relgion, occuption, etc. i love the canadain way of life and its inception. others should to. i think weapons and war should be the last thing on how to resolve political dispute.
i want to irrarate the comments that were made in the above articles, first of all politics is a complex game, one day you have two enemies and next friends and vise versa, but to get to the point i find that usa wants to arm the enemy of its oppenants that dont want to bow down to its supremacy, all nato countries take dialgue and instructions from the great usa.but there are countries out there that are non aligned to either great russia and usa but dont want to be dragged in thier conflicts or supression for greater idology. myself personally coming from yugoslavia during war period left great scars and resenment as a youth, but i found a better life in canada where i can hold a job nit be discrimanted entirly, and can hold a sense opion. i loved my country but i found a second home and for 24 years i found a way to integrate into canadian culture, learn and prosper to become a better sociely and make friends for a lifetime. i dont judgee others or high profile someones ethnicti, relgion, occuption, etc. i love the canadain way of life and its inception. others should to. i think weapons and war should be the last thing on how to resolve political dispute.
I doubt that they are more than a month per year in the region.
But I would even offer them our ground and broadcast live. I guess Pink would finally have a serious opponent for farma. :)
It would be more constructive if you saw things as they are rather than what you wish them to be.
..e.g. Trump has approved of the Kosova Army, otherwise why would he send a shipload of state of the art weapons to Kosova free of charge. Furthermore, the weapons meet NATO standards, this implies that Kosova is soon to join NATO and take over Camp Bondsteel with American advisors when Kfor leaves.
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