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Tuesday, 25.09.2018.

10:04

"Vucic has been told he can drag out Kosovo solution"

It seems that a solution to the Kosovo issue will not be found either in 2018 or in early 2019, "despirte the wishes of the international community."

Izvor: Tanjug

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

What was there to counter? His/her cherry picking argument?
Or the argument, "Albanians are doing just fine, the frozen conflict works for them"?
When (un)truths are so self-evident, there is nothing to counter. Bye now.
(..., 27 September 2018 15:32)

So far, you have only impressed me for being rather eloquent for an uninformed person not being aware of it.

I suggest you change your screen name and start again afresh.

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

Oh wow, a whole thread about my writing style, LOL.

Three Little Dots, I don't remember debating with you before, maybe with another of your personalities. In any case, since you have no coherent point to make (other than blurting out something about copy-paste), let me kindly tell you that I don't waste time with idiots.

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pre 5 godina

I cannot see where you dealt with the essence of his comments! All you did is an linguistic equivalent of sticking the tongue out for being unable to factually counter his explanations.
(Tom L'Orizi, 27 September 2018 14:04)

What was there to counter? His/her cherry picking argument?
Or the argument, "Albanians are doing just fine, the frozen conflict works for them"?
When (un)truths are so self-evident, there is nothing to counter. Bye now.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

I dealt with the essence of his comments before. I understood his little attempt at humor and ambiguity (well one can hope that was attempt to be funny for his/her sake!) however, unfortunately, humans are still much cheaper than the cheapest AI.
And you are right, I have no stomach to digest that stuff.
(..., 27 September 2018 10:28)

I cannot see where you dealt with the essence of his comments! All you did is an linguistic equivalent of sticking the tongue out for being unable to factually counter his explanations.

sj

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Aren’t you embarrassed to use both sides of an argument to try making a point. E.G. In one of your posts you argue that once Kosova get Schengen Visas the young people will flee Kosova, whereas in another post, such as the one you wrote below, you state that denying visas to Kosovars will encourage them to leave. Even you, I’m sure, can see the obvious contradiction in your statements.
(The Count of Kosova, 27 September 2018 04:04)

Lord of the Dance I have no idea where you are getting this stuff from. Where did I write that?

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pre 5 godina

"Clearly you have no stomach to digest the facts Albanopolis is mentioning, and what better to do other than attacking his style of writing rather than dealing with the essence of his comments."

I dealt with the essence of his comments before. I understood his little attempt at humor and ambiguity (well one can hope that was attempt to be funny for his/her sake!) however, unfortunately, humans are still much cheaper than the cheapest AI.
And you are right, I have no stomach to digest that stuff.

The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Aren’t you embarrassed to use both sides of an argument to try making a point. E.G. In one of your posts you argue that once Kosova get Schengen Visas the young people will flee Kosova, whereas in another post, such as the one you wrote below, you state that denying visas to Kosovars will encourage them to leave. Even you, I’m sure, can see the obvious contradiction in your statements.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... Well, take most of your production, pardon, your co Use google translate if you need to, paraphrase a bit, change few adjectives here and there, enter a sentence or two into google search and voila!

And yeah, definitely not a rocket science. Sleazy marketing templates and sentence spinners are great!

One can use them equally for obtaining instant legal, historical, political and medical expertise through Wiki articles, stealing bits of original work from others that pass Copyskape, selling sugar rose water, promoting how to become milionere in five steps and lose 50lbs programs in a week...

Or change a word or two here and there…
Grand treason speeches and playing both sides. Works for that as well.
(..., 26 September 2018 20:20)

Clearly you have no stomach to digest the facts Albanopolis is mentioning, and what better to do other than attacking his style of writing rather than dealing with the essence of his comments.

I can see that you are deeply annoyed for not being able to find flaws in everything he lays down factually mentioning names or authorities or the literature in his comments.

You are visibly coveting everithing he throws at your angry-little-yourself, but bear in mind that by you having glanced Google for years to understand yourself how to dodge the copyright doesn't make you a copywriter either.

...

pre 5 godina

Sure, no problem, but who the hell is khmkh? Oh and I don't copy-paste, I'm perfectly capable of producing a reply in a comments section, this isn't rocket science.
(Albanopolis, 25 September 2018 22:33)

Well, take most of your production, pardon, your comments here, say, for example, "KiM (or in your version Kosova) is not on the table, it is a solved thing for everyone but Serbia" and "Serbs need to accept that reality", or this here, "Serbs lose with frozen conflict, Albanians gain through frozen conflict," or "Serbia will be trapped by KiM and not make any progress". Use google translate if you need to, paraphrase a bit, change few adjectives here and there, enter a sentence or two into google search and voila!

And yeah, definitely not a rocket science. Sleazy marketing templates and sentence spinners are great!

One can use them equally for obtaining instant legal, historical, political and medical expertise through Wiki articles, stealing bits of original work from others that pass Copyskape, selling sugar rose water, promoting how to become milionere in five steps and lose 50lbs programs in a week...

Or change a word or two here and there…
Grand treason speeches and playing both sides. Works for that as well.

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

Of course he has. The so called “West” doesn’t want Balkan trash dragged out with any urgency. Keep it contained and fenced-in.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Albanopolis, 25 September 2018 20:02)

First rule is the dog wags the tail not the other way around. Kosovo’s frozen status is not good for Albanians since it only encourages people to leave and once out they will never return. The west does not really care about the locals since its main purpose is to stop the Russians from influencing the Balkans. If I am wrong, please tell me which western industries have relocated to Kosovo in the last 20 years?
ZSO will have to be created, whether Albanians like it or not. They signed the chapters of the Brussels Agreement which will comprise the final agreement document.
If the EU was so concerned about Kosovo they would not be opening another three chapters with Serbia by the end of this year. Trump summed it up at his UN speech it’s Americans first and who cares about the rest.

sj

pre 5 godina

While this happens in Serbia [link] Vucic is going to BS Serbs even more about Kosovo, and telling them they're number one in Balkans.
(Avni, 25 September 2018 20:12)

Well crimes occurs everywhere, but the difference between Belgrade and Pristina, Belgrade's media report it while Pristina does not. Albanians are so far behind the times they still use Tito's population stats when clearly the population is no way near 1.8 million in Kosovo.

LOL

pre 5 godina

LOL! In a year or two we will be negotiating the status of Sanxhak and the extra-territorial status of all Illyrian historical sites in Serbia and every mosque from Nish to Novi Sad.
If you think Serbs are hard-headed, then you don't know anything about Albanians.
(Genti, 25 September 2018 15:29)

Bro, I hate to ruin the wet dream you think you're going to have, but in a year of two, 350,000 Albanians at the absolute least will have left Kosovo for good, half of Kosovo's political leadership will be on trial for war crimes, and you still won't be able to send ROSU across the Ibar without the high risk of getting shot in the head. Where the Hell did you ever get the idea of Illyrian historical sites from Nis to Novi Sad? Not even Hoxha's Institute of Albanological Studies, or whatever it's called, goes that ridiculously far in peddling a fictitious history.

If you want to sound tough, you can't make your audience laugh at your embarrassment. If you've got nothing to say but still feel the need to say something because your ego is butthurt at least try to sound like you come from a village where indoor plumbing is a standard, not a luxury :)

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

"Don't bother to reply, btw"

Sure, no problem, but who the hell is khmkh? Oh and I don't copy-paste, I'm perfectly capable of producing a reply in a comments section, this isn't rocket science.

imo

pre 5 godina

About Serbs that are excited about a "frozen conflict" - you forget that freezing things as they are now, suits Albanians just fine, no ZSO, no Serbia in EU, so yeah be my guest.
(Albanopolis, 25 September 2018 20:02)

No one is getting exited about a frozen conflict. However, creating a bigger problem to solve a smaller one wont work, especially if there is zero incentive for one side and that side has very lousy negotiators who freely give away winning chips to the other side.

You will have to form ZSO, otherwise Serbia can cancel Brussels agreement because your side is not fulfilling any part of the bargain for more than three or four years.

And yes, I am sure that this frozen conflict suits Albanians just fine.

Btw, from your wording, I could swear that you moonlight as a speech writer for khmkh or copy paste his speeches here…
Don't bother to reply, btw. Really had great fun on this forum here, but enough is enough.

Avni

pre 5 godina

While this happens in Serbia https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2018&mm=09&dd=25&nav_category=16&nav_id=1447980 Vucic is going to BS Serbs even more about Kosovo, and telling them they're number one in Balkans.

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

Vucic has a different story every day. Two days ago, he was upset as he didn't find any support for his solution, and that Brussels won't be seeing him any time soon (boo hoo). Now he "has been told" to drag out solutions for two years. Then in the same article, US has relaxed the attitude towards Serbia but is not pressuring Albanians either.
Don't get too excited about this though as tomorrow Vucic will come up with something else.
About Serbs that are excited about a "frozen conflict" - you forget that freezing things as they are now, suits Albanians just fine, no ZSO, no Serbia in EU, so yeah be my guest.

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

Of course he has. The so called “West” doesn’t want Balkan trash dragged out with any urgency. Keep it contained and fenced-in.

H

pre 5 godina

Please... Do not get overjoyed that usa is changing their mind over serbia. Serbia remains a toy for Russia's games and we all know how USA feels about Russia. USA will always support Kosova! Serbia is delusional to even think that they have any rights in the world to get anything out of Kosova.

Genti

pre 5 godina

"Wait it out. Demand Serbian controlled zones south of the Ibar and extra-territorial status for the Monasteries as the basis for ANY negotiations.
(Ari Gold)"

LOL! In a year or two we will be negotiating the status of Sanxhak and the extra-territorial status of all Illyrian historical sites in Serbia and every mosque from Nish to Novi Sad.
If you think Serbs are hard-headed, then you don't know anything about Albanians.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

are you serious what do you want to achieve with this fake news?
trump is currently exactly doing what is in the best interest of albanians he has started a trade war against china and will win it together with economic sanctions same with russia more and more sactions and usa will win this this 2 states are serbias friends russia and china im sure after ww3 which will start next year no serbian state will exist anymore 100% all serbian land will be splitted between albania/kosovo and croatia this is the plan from the globalists like soros and the rothschilds your beloved president vucic is a bought man he does not care about serbian people
(fidi, 25 September 2018 13:58)

@ fidiaj - dude, do you even know what you're saying ? LOL....

sj

pre 5 godina

(fidi, 25 September 2018 13:58)


So Trump has started a trade war with China just for the Albos. Are you joking or plain dumb?
Gary Cohen, Trump’s former trade advisor and many others, have said that “the US cannot win a trade war with China let alone any other trading partners. China has already devalued its currency thus making its goods even more competitive.”
Economic sanction against Russia are not hurting the slightest. The EU, China and now Russia have set up a financial system, so they can do business with Iran thus bypassing the normal avenues of finance whereby the US can have no effect.
This is the best part LOL. Mate if there is a WW3 there will be no Rothchilds, Soros, Albos or Croats left only the cockroaches.
I’m sure B92 posts ridiculous comments like yours just out of laughs.

fidi

pre 5 godina

are you serious what do you want to achieve with this fake news?
trump is currently exactly doing what is in the best interest of albanians he has started a trade war against china and will win it together with economic sanctions same with russia more and more sactions and usa will win this this 2 states are serbias friends russia and china im sure after ww3 which will start next year no serbian state will exist anymore 100% all serbian land will be splitted between albania/kosovo and croatia this is the plan from the globalists like soros and the rothschilds your beloved president vucic is a bought man he does not care about serbian people

sdan

pre 5 godina

Sure and we belive all in serbian fake media haha no one in the west is questioning kosovos independence we have now more support from trump then from clinton also usa nato is still protecting kosovo so nothing has changed stop lying you fake serbian media

sj

pre 5 godina

On so many planes this is bad news for the Albanians since to drag this out only means, as many have already said, more leaving Kosova heaven and never to return.

Why are people leaving? There are simply no jobs; they can crow all they like that its only 29% unemployment in comparison to 45% a few years ago, but this is only a manipulation of data. The ordinary person knows that there are no jobs and what is even more hurtful Serbia is attracting investment and jobs are being created with this investment and the Albanians know they will not get a look in so its off to the EU.
The economies of the EU have not recovered and they will not be looking to take any new members until possibly 2035/2040 simply because they cannot meet their financial obligations to the new members.

Anonymous

pre 5 godina

It is also obvious that the EU is not interested in having Serbia or Kosovo as members anytime in the near or far future. So, there is no need to rush any peace deal between the two countries. If Serbia and Kosovo should resolve their differences, then the EU would have to consider them more seriously.

Ari Gold

pre 5 godina

If now is not the right time to solve the Kosovo issue then so be it.

Albanians are leaving Kosovo-Metohija in highest numbers ever. Way more than under Milosevic. A recent investigation with contributions by two Albanian professors from Pristina say not only has there been an exodus, the ones that are leaving have no intention of coming back. This trend is likely to continue. https://www.ekspres.net/politika/dvoglavi-orao-ostaje-bez-krila

Also, winds of change in the West have been favorable for Serbia. Even the US administration is using the most neutral language towards this issue in my life time. A 2nd Trump term would play into Serbia's hand. So will increasing success of populist-nationalist parties in Europe joining government (i.e. Italy, Austria and Hungary).

Wait it out. Demand Serbian controlled zones south of the Ibar and extra-territorial status for the Monasteries as the basis for ANY negotiations.

Ari Gold

pre 5 godina

If now is not the right time to solve the Kosovo issue then so be it.

Albanians are leaving Kosovo-Metohija in highest numbers ever. Way more than under Milosevic. A recent investigation with contributions by two Albanian professors from Pristina say not only has there been an exodus, the ones that are leaving have no intention of coming back. This trend is likely to continue. https://www.ekspres.net/politika/dvoglavi-orao-ostaje-bez-krila

Also, winds of change in the West have been favorable for Serbia. Even the US administration is using the most neutral language towards this issue in my life time. A 2nd Trump term would play into Serbia's hand. So will increasing success of populist-nationalist parties in Europe joining government (i.e. Italy, Austria and Hungary).

Wait it out. Demand Serbian controlled zones south of the Ibar and extra-territorial status for the Monasteries as the basis for ANY negotiations.

sj

pre 5 godina

On so many planes this is bad news for the Albanians since to drag this out only means, as many have already said, more leaving Kosova heaven and never to return.

Why are people leaving? There are simply no jobs; they can crow all they like that its only 29% unemployment in comparison to 45% a few years ago, but this is only a manipulation of data. The ordinary person knows that there are no jobs and what is even more hurtful Serbia is attracting investment and jobs are being created with this investment and the Albanians know they will not get a look in so its off to the EU.
The economies of the EU have not recovered and they will not be looking to take any new members until possibly 2035/2040 simply because they cannot meet their financial obligations to the new members.

Anonymous

pre 5 godina

It is also obvious that the EU is not interested in having Serbia or Kosovo as members anytime in the near or far future. So, there is no need to rush any peace deal between the two countries. If Serbia and Kosovo should resolve their differences, then the EU would have to consider them more seriously.

Genti

pre 5 godina

"Wait it out. Demand Serbian controlled zones south of the Ibar and extra-territorial status for the Monasteries as the basis for ANY negotiations.
(Ari Gold)"

LOL! In a year or two we will be negotiating the status of Sanxhak and the extra-territorial status of all Illyrian historical sites in Serbia and every mosque from Nish to Novi Sad.
If you think Serbs are hard-headed, then you don't know anything about Albanians.

sj

pre 5 godina

(fidi, 25 September 2018 13:58)


So Trump has started a trade war with China just for the Albos. Are you joking or plain dumb?
Gary Cohen, Trump’s former trade advisor and many others, have said that “the US cannot win a trade war with China let alone any other trading partners. China has already devalued its currency thus making its goods even more competitive.”
Economic sanction against Russia are not hurting the slightest. The EU, China and now Russia have set up a financial system, so they can do business with Iran thus bypassing the normal avenues of finance whereby the US can have no effect.
This is the best part LOL. Mate if there is a WW3 there will be no Rothchilds, Soros, Albos or Croats left only the cockroaches.
I’m sure B92 posts ridiculous comments like yours just out of laughs.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

are you serious what do you want to achieve with this fake news?
trump is currently exactly doing what is in the best interest of albanians he has started a trade war against china and will win it together with economic sanctions same with russia more and more sactions and usa will win this this 2 states are serbias friends russia and china im sure after ww3 which will start next year no serbian state will exist anymore 100% all serbian land will be splitted between albania/kosovo and croatia this is the plan from the globalists like soros and the rothschilds your beloved president vucic is a bought man he does not care about serbian people
(fidi, 25 September 2018 13:58)

@ fidiaj - dude, do you even know what you're saying ? LOL....

fidi

pre 5 godina

are you serious what do you want to achieve with this fake news?
trump is currently exactly doing what is in the best interest of albanians he has started a trade war against china and will win it together with economic sanctions same with russia more and more sactions and usa will win this this 2 states are serbias friends russia and china im sure after ww3 which will start next year no serbian state will exist anymore 100% all serbian land will be splitted between albania/kosovo and croatia this is the plan from the globalists like soros and the rothschilds your beloved president vucic is a bought man he does not care about serbian people

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

I dealt with the essence of his comments before. I understood his little attempt at humor and ambiguity (well one can hope that was attempt to be funny for his/her sake!) however, unfortunately, humans are still much cheaper than the cheapest AI.
And you are right, I have no stomach to digest that stuff.
(..., 27 September 2018 10:28)

I cannot see where you dealt with the essence of his comments! All you did is an linguistic equivalent of sticking the tongue out for being unable to factually counter his explanations.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

What was there to counter? His/her cherry picking argument?
Or the argument, "Albanians are doing just fine, the frozen conflict works for them"?
When (un)truths are so self-evident, there is nothing to counter. Bye now.
(..., 27 September 2018 15:32)

So far, you have only impressed me for being rather eloquent for an uninformed person not being aware of it.

I suggest you change your screen name and start again afresh.

H

pre 5 godina

Please... Do not get overjoyed that usa is changing their mind over serbia. Serbia remains a toy for Russia's games and we all know how USA feels about Russia. USA will always support Kosova! Serbia is delusional to even think that they have any rights in the world to get anything out of Kosova.

imo

pre 5 godina

About Serbs that are excited about a "frozen conflict" - you forget that freezing things as they are now, suits Albanians just fine, no ZSO, no Serbia in EU, so yeah be my guest.
(Albanopolis, 25 September 2018 20:02)

No one is getting exited about a frozen conflict. However, creating a bigger problem to solve a smaller one wont work, especially if there is zero incentive for one side and that side has very lousy negotiators who freely give away winning chips to the other side.

You will have to form ZSO, otherwise Serbia can cancel Brussels agreement because your side is not fulfilling any part of the bargain for more than three or four years.

And yes, I am sure that this frozen conflict suits Albanians just fine.

Btw, from your wording, I could swear that you moonlight as a speech writer for khmkh or copy paste his speeches here…
Don't bother to reply, btw. Really had great fun on this forum here, but enough is enough.

sdan

pre 5 godina

Sure and we belive all in serbian fake media haha no one in the west is questioning kosovos independence we have now more support from trump then from clinton also usa nato is still protecting kosovo so nothing has changed stop lying you fake serbian media

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

Of course he has. The so called “West” doesn’t want Balkan trash dragged out with any urgency. Keep it contained and fenced-in.

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

Vucic has a different story every day. Two days ago, he was upset as he didn't find any support for his solution, and that Brussels won't be seeing him any time soon (boo hoo). Now he "has been told" to drag out solutions for two years. Then in the same article, US has relaxed the attitude towards Serbia but is not pressuring Albanians either.
Don't get too excited about this though as tomorrow Vucic will come up with something else.
About Serbs that are excited about a "frozen conflict" - you forget that freezing things as they are now, suits Albanians just fine, no ZSO, no Serbia in EU, so yeah be my guest.

Avni

pre 5 godina

While this happens in Serbia https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2018&mm=09&dd=25&nav_category=16&nav_id=1447980 Vucic is going to BS Serbs even more about Kosovo, and telling them they're number one in Balkans.

LOL

pre 5 godina

LOL! In a year or two we will be negotiating the status of Sanxhak and the extra-territorial status of all Illyrian historical sites in Serbia and every mosque from Nish to Novi Sad.
If you think Serbs are hard-headed, then you don't know anything about Albanians.
(Genti, 25 September 2018 15:29)

Bro, I hate to ruin the wet dream you think you're going to have, but in a year of two, 350,000 Albanians at the absolute least will have left Kosovo for good, half of Kosovo's political leadership will be on trial for war crimes, and you still won't be able to send ROSU across the Ibar without the high risk of getting shot in the head. Where the Hell did you ever get the idea of Illyrian historical sites from Nis to Novi Sad? Not even Hoxha's Institute of Albanological Studies, or whatever it's called, goes that ridiculously far in peddling a fictitious history.

If you want to sound tough, you can't make your audience laugh at your embarrassment. If you've got nothing to say but still feel the need to say something because your ego is butthurt at least try to sound like you come from a village where indoor plumbing is a standard, not a luxury :)

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... Well, take most of your production, pardon, your co Use google translate if you need to, paraphrase a bit, change few adjectives here and there, enter a sentence or two into google search and voila!

And yeah, definitely not a rocket science. Sleazy marketing templates and sentence spinners are great!

One can use them equally for obtaining instant legal, historical, political and medical expertise through Wiki articles, stealing bits of original work from others that pass Copyskape, selling sugar rose water, promoting how to become milionere in five steps and lose 50lbs programs in a week...

Or change a word or two here and there…
Grand treason speeches and playing both sides. Works for that as well.
(..., 26 September 2018 20:20)

Clearly you have no stomach to digest the facts Albanopolis is mentioning, and what better to do other than attacking his style of writing rather than dealing with the essence of his comments.

I can see that you are deeply annoyed for not being able to find flaws in everything he lays down factually mentioning names or authorities or the literature in his comments.

You are visibly coveting everithing he throws at your angry-little-yourself, but bear in mind that by you having glanced Google for years to understand yourself how to dodge the copyright doesn't make you a copywriter either.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Albanopolis, 25 September 2018 20:02)

First rule is the dog wags the tail not the other way around. Kosovo’s frozen status is not good for Albanians since it only encourages people to leave and once out they will never return. The west does not really care about the locals since its main purpose is to stop the Russians from influencing the Balkans. If I am wrong, please tell me which western industries have relocated to Kosovo in the last 20 years?
ZSO will have to be created, whether Albanians like it or not. They signed the chapters of the Brussels Agreement which will comprise the final agreement document.
If the EU was so concerned about Kosovo they would not be opening another three chapters with Serbia by the end of this year. Trump summed it up at his UN speech it’s Americans first and who cares about the rest.

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

"Don't bother to reply, btw"

Sure, no problem, but who the hell is khmkh? Oh and I don't copy-paste, I'm perfectly capable of producing a reply in a comments section, this isn't rocket science.

sj

pre 5 godina

While this happens in Serbia [link] Vucic is going to BS Serbs even more about Kosovo, and telling them they're number one in Balkans.
(Avni, 25 September 2018 20:12)

Well crimes occurs everywhere, but the difference between Belgrade and Pristina, Belgrade's media report it while Pristina does not. Albanians are so far behind the times they still use Tito's population stats when clearly the population is no way near 1.8 million in Kosovo.

...

pre 5 godina

Sure, no problem, but who the hell is khmkh? Oh and I don't copy-paste, I'm perfectly capable of producing a reply in a comments section, this isn't rocket science.
(Albanopolis, 25 September 2018 22:33)

Well, take most of your production, pardon, your comments here, say, for example, "KiM (or in your version Kosova) is not on the table, it is a solved thing for everyone but Serbia" and "Serbs need to accept that reality", or this here, "Serbs lose with frozen conflict, Albanians gain through frozen conflict," or "Serbia will be trapped by KiM and not make any progress". Use google translate if you need to, paraphrase a bit, change few adjectives here and there, enter a sentence or two into google search and voila!

And yeah, definitely not a rocket science. Sleazy marketing templates and sentence spinners are great!

One can use them equally for obtaining instant legal, historical, political and medical expertise through Wiki articles, stealing bits of original work from others that pass Copyskape, selling sugar rose water, promoting how to become milionere in five steps and lose 50lbs programs in a week...

Or change a word or two here and there…
Grand treason speeches and playing both sides. Works for that as well.

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

Oh wow, a whole thread about my writing style, LOL.

Three Little Dots, I don't remember debating with you before, maybe with another of your personalities. In any case, since you have no coherent point to make (other than blurting out something about copy-paste), let me kindly tell you that I don't waste time with idiots.

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

Of course he has. The so called “West” doesn’t want Balkan trash dragged out with any urgency. Keep it contained and fenced-in.

The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Aren’t you embarrassed to use both sides of an argument to try making a point. E.G. In one of your posts you argue that once Kosova get Schengen Visas the young people will flee Kosova, whereas in another post, such as the one you wrote below, you state that denying visas to Kosovars will encourage them to leave. Even you, I’m sure, can see the obvious contradiction in your statements.

...

pre 5 godina

"Clearly you have no stomach to digest the facts Albanopolis is mentioning, and what better to do other than attacking his style of writing rather than dealing with the essence of his comments."

I dealt with the essence of his comments before. I understood his little attempt at humor and ambiguity (well one can hope that was attempt to be funny for his/her sake!) however, unfortunately, humans are still much cheaper than the cheapest AI.
And you are right, I have no stomach to digest that stuff.

sj

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Aren’t you embarrassed to use both sides of an argument to try making a point. E.G. In one of your posts you argue that once Kosova get Schengen Visas the young people will flee Kosova, whereas in another post, such as the one you wrote below, you state that denying visas to Kosovars will encourage them to leave. Even you, I’m sure, can see the obvious contradiction in your statements.
(The Count of Kosova, 27 September 2018 04:04)

Lord of the Dance I have no idea where you are getting this stuff from. Where did I write that?

...

pre 5 godina

I cannot see where you dealt with the essence of his comments! All you did is an linguistic equivalent of sticking the tongue out for being unable to factually counter his explanations.
(Tom L'Orizi, 27 September 2018 14:04)

What was there to counter? His/her cherry picking argument?
Or the argument, "Albanians are doing just fine, the frozen conflict works for them"?
When (un)truths are so self-evident, there is nothing to counter. Bye now.

fidi

pre 5 godina

are you serious what do you want to achieve with this fake news?
trump is currently exactly doing what is in the best interest of albanians he has started a trade war against china and will win it together with economic sanctions same with russia more and more sactions and usa will win this this 2 states are serbias friends russia and china im sure after ww3 which will start next year no serbian state will exist anymore 100% all serbian land will be splitted between albania/kosovo and croatia this is the plan from the globalists like soros and the rothschilds your beloved president vucic is a bought man he does not care about serbian people

Genti

pre 5 godina

"Wait it out. Demand Serbian controlled zones south of the Ibar and extra-territorial status for the Monasteries as the basis for ANY negotiations.
(Ari Gold)"

LOL! In a year or two we will be negotiating the status of Sanxhak and the extra-territorial status of all Illyrian historical sites in Serbia and every mosque from Nish to Novi Sad.
If you think Serbs are hard-headed, then you don't know anything about Albanians.

sdan

pre 5 godina

Sure and we belive all in serbian fake media haha no one in the west is questioning kosovos independence we have now more support from trump then from clinton also usa nato is still protecting kosovo so nothing has changed stop lying you fake serbian media

Ari Gold

pre 5 godina

If now is not the right time to solve the Kosovo issue then so be it.

Albanians are leaving Kosovo-Metohija in highest numbers ever. Way more than under Milosevic. A recent investigation with contributions by two Albanian professors from Pristina say not only has there been an exodus, the ones that are leaving have no intention of coming back. This trend is likely to continue. https://www.ekspres.net/politika/dvoglavi-orao-ostaje-bez-krila

Also, winds of change in the West have been favorable for Serbia. Even the US administration is using the most neutral language towards this issue in my life time. A 2nd Trump term would play into Serbia's hand. So will increasing success of populist-nationalist parties in Europe joining government (i.e. Italy, Austria and Hungary).

Wait it out. Demand Serbian controlled zones south of the Ibar and extra-territorial status for the Monasteries as the basis for ANY negotiations.

sj

pre 5 godina

On so many planes this is bad news for the Albanians since to drag this out only means, as many have already said, more leaving Kosova heaven and never to return.

Why are people leaving? There are simply no jobs; they can crow all they like that its only 29% unemployment in comparison to 45% a few years ago, but this is only a manipulation of data. The ordinary person knows that there are no jobs and what is even more hurtful Serbia is attracting investment and jobs are being created with this investment and the Albanians know they will not get a look in so its off to the EU.
The economies of the EU have not recovered and they will not be looking to take any new members until possibly 2035/2040 simply because they cannot meet their financial obligations to the new members.

sj

pre 5 godina

(fidi, 25 September 2018 13:58)


So Trump has started a trade war with China just for the Albos. Are you joking or plain dumb?
Gary Cohen, Trump’s former trade advisor and many others, have said that “the US cannot win a trade war with China let alone any other trading partners. China has already devalued its currency thus making its goods even more competitive.”
Economic sanction against Russia are not hurting the slightest. The EU, China and now Russia have set up a financial system, so they can do business with Iran thus bypassing the normal avenues of finance whereby the US can have no effect.
This is the best part LOL. Mate if there is a WW3 there will be no Rothchilds, Soros, Albos or Croats left only the cockroaches.
I’m sure B92 posts ridiculous comments like yours just out of laughs.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

are you serious what do you want to achieve with this fake news?
trump is currently exactly doing what is in the best interest of albanians he has started a trade war against china and will win it together with economic sanctions same with russia more and more sactions and usa will win this this 2 states are serbias friends russia and china im sure after ww3 which will start next year no serbian state will exist anymore 100% all serbian land will be splitted between albania/kosovo and croatia this is the plan from the globalists like soros and the rothschilds your beloved president vucic is a bought man he does not care about serbian people
(fidi, 25 September 2018 13:58)

@ fidiaj - dude, do you even know what you're saying ? LOL....

H

pre 5 godina

Please... Do not get overjoyed that usa is changing their mind over serbia. Serbia remains a toy for Russia's games and we all know how USA feels about Russia. USA will always support Kosova! Serbia is delusional to even think that they have any rights in the world to get anything out of Kosova.

Avni

pre 5 godina

While this happens in Serbia https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2018&mm=09&dd=25&nav_category=16&nav_id=1447980 Vucic is going to BS Serbs even more about Kosovo, and telling them they're number one in Balkans.

imo

pre 5 godina

About Serbs that are excited about a "frozen conflict" - you forget that freezing things as they are now, suits Albanians just fine, no ZSO, no Serbia in EU, so yeah be my guest.
(Albanopolis, 25 September 2018 20:02)

No one is getting exited about a frozen conflict. However, creating a bigger problem to solve a smaller one wont work, especially if there is zero incentive for one side and that side has very lousy negotiators who freely give away winning chips to the other side.

You will have to form ZSO, otherwise Serbia can cancel Brussels agreement because your side is not fulfilling any part of the bargain for more than three or four years.

And yes, I am sure that this frozen conflict suits Albanians just fine.

Btw, from your wording, I could swear that you moonlight as a speech writer for khmkh or copy paste his speeches here…
Don't bother to reply, btw. Really had great fun on this forum here, but enough is enough.

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

Vucic has a different story every day. Two days ago, he was upset as he didn't find any support for his solution, and that Brussels won't be seeing him any time soon (boo hoo). Now he "has been told" to drag out solutions for two years. Then in the same article, US has relaxed the attitude towards Serbia but is not pressuring Albanians either.
Don't get too excited about this though as tomorrow Vucic will come up with something else.
About Serbs that are excited about a "frozen conflict" - you forget that freezing things as they are now, suits Albanians just fine, no ZSO, no Serbia in EU, so yeah be my guest.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Albanopolis, 25 September 2018 20:02)

First rule is the dog wags the tail not the other way around. Kosovo’s frozen status is not good for Albanians since it only encourages people to leave and once out they will never return. The west does not really care about the locals since its main purpose is to stop the Russians from influencing the Balkans. If I am wrong, please tell me which western industries have relocated to Kosovo in the last 20 years?
ZSO will have to be created, whether Albanians like it or not. They signed the chapters of the Brussels Agreement which will comprise the final agreement document.
If the EU was so concerned about Kosovo they would not be opening another three chapters with Serbia by the end of this year. Trump summed it up at his UN speech it’s Americans first and who cares about the rest.

Anonymous

pre 5 godina

It is also obvious that the EU is not interested in having Serbia or Kosovo as members anytime in the near or far future. So, there is no need to rush any peace deal between the two countries. If Serbia and Kosovo should resolve their differences, then the EU would have to consider them more seriously.

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

Of course he has. The so called “West” doesn’t want Balkan trash dragged out with any urgency. Keep it contained and fenced-in.

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

"Don't bother to reply, btw"

Sure, no problem, but who the hell is khmkh? Oh and I don't copy-paste, I'm perfectly capable of producing a reply in a comments section, this isn't rocket science.

...

pre 5 godina

I cannot see where you dealt with the essence of his comments! All you did is an linguistic equivalent of sticking the tongue out for being unable to factually counter his explanations.
(Tom L'Orizi, 27 September 2018 14:04)

What was there to counter? His/her cherry picking argument?
Or the argument, "Albanians are doing just fine, the frozen conflict works for them"?
When (un)truths are so self-evident, there is nothing to counter. Bye now.

LOL

pre 5 godina

LOL! In a year or two we will be negotiating the status of Sanxhak and the extra-territorial status of all Illyrian historical sites in Serbia and every mosque from Nish to Novi Sad.
If you think Serbs are hard-headed, then you don't know anything about Albanians.
(Genti, 25 September 2018 15:29)

Bro, I hate to ruin the wet dream you think you're going to have, but in a year of two, 350,000 Albanians at the absolute least will have left Kosovo for good, half of Kosovo's political leadership will be on trial for war crimes, and you still won't be able to send ROSU across the Ibar without the high risk of getting shot in the head. Where the Hell did you ever get the idea of Illyrian historical sites from Nis to Novi Sad? Not even Hoxha's Institute of Albanological Studies, or whatever it's called, goes that ridiculously far in peddling a fictitious history.

If you want to sound tough, you can't make your audience laugh at your embarrassment. If you've got nothing to say but still feel the need to say something because your ego is butthurt at least try to sound like you come from a village where indoor plumbing is a standard, not a luxury :)

sj

pre 5 godina

While this happens in Serbia [link] Vucic is going to BS Serbs even more about Kosovo, and telling them they're number one in Balkans.
(Avni, 25 September 2018 20:12)

Well crimes occurs everywhere, but the difference between Belgrade and Pristina, Belgrade's media report it while Pristina does not. Albanians are so far behind the times they still use Tito's population stats when clearly the population is no way near 1.8 million in Kosovo.

...

pre 5 godina

Sure, no problem, but who the hell is khmkh? Oh and I don't copy-paste, I'm perfectly capable of producing a reply in a comments section, this isn't rocket science.
(Albanopolis, 25 September 2018 22:33)

Well, take most of your production, pardon, your comments here, say, for example, "KiM (or in your version Kosova) is not on the table, it is a solved thing for everyone but Serbia" and "Serbs need to accept that reality", or this here, "Serbs lose with frozen conflict, Albanians gain through frozen conflict," or "Serbia will be trapped by KiM and not make any progress". Use google translate if you need to, paraphrase a bit, change few adjectives here and there, enter a sentence or two into google search and voila!

And yeah, definitely not a rocket science. Sleazy marketing templates and sentence spinners are great!

One can use them equally for obtaining instant legal, historical, political and medical expertise through Wiki articles, stealing bits of original work from others that pass Copyskape, selling sugar rose water, promoting how to become milionere in five steps and lose 50lbs programs in a week...

Or change a word or two here and there…
Grand treason speeches and playing both sides. Works for that as well.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... Well, take most of your production, pardon, your co Use google translate if you need to, paraphrase a bit, change few adjectives here and there, enter a sentence or two into google search and voila!

And yeah, definitely not a rocket science. Sleazy marketing templates and sentence spinners are great!

One can use them equally for obtaining instant legal, historical, political and medical expertise through Wiki articles, stealing bits of original work from others that pass Copyskape, selling sugar rose water, promoting how to become milionere in five steps and lose 50lbs programs in a week...

Or change a word or two here and there…
Grand treason speeches and playing both sides. Works for that as well.
(..., 26 September 2018 20:20)

Clearly you have no stomach to digest the facts Albanopolis is mentioning, and what better to do other than attacking his style of writing rather than dealing with the essence of his comments.

I can see that you are deeply annoyed for not being able to find flaws in everything he lays down factually mentioning names or authorities or the literature in his comments.

You are visibly coveting everithing he throws at your angry-little-yourself, but bear in mind that by you having glanced Google for years to understand yourself how to dodge the copyright doesn't make you a copywriter either.

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

Of course he has. The so called “West” doesn’t want Balkan trash dragged out with any urgency. Keep it contained and fenced-in.

...

pre 5 godina

"Clearly you have no stomach to digest the facts Albanopolis is mentioning, and what better to do other than attacking his style of writing rather than dealing with the essence of his comments."

I dealt with the essence of his comments before. I understood his little attempt at humor and ambiguity (well one can hope that was attempt to be funny for his/her sake!) however, unfortunately, humans are still much cheaper than the cheapest AI.
And you are right, I have no stomach to digest that stuff.

sj

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Aren’t you embarrassed to use both sides of an argument to try making a point. E.G. In one of your posts you argue that once Kosova get Schengen Visas the young people will flee Kosova, whereas in another post, such as the one you wrote below, you state that denying visas to Kosovars will encourage them to leave. Even you, I’m sure, can see the obvious contradiction in your statements.
(The Count of Kosova, 27 September 2018 04:04)

Lord of the Dance I have no idea where you are getting this stuff from. Where did I write that?

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

I dealt with the essence of his comments before. I understood his little attempt at humor and ambiguity (well one can hope that was attempt to be funny for his/her sake!) however, unfortunately, humans are still much cheaper than the cheapest AI.
And you are right, I have no stomach to digest that stuff.
(..., 27 September 2018 10:28)

I cannot see where you dealt with the essence of his comments! All you did is an linguistic equivalent of sticking the tongue out for being unable to factually counter his explanations.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

What was there to counter? His/her cherry picking argument?
Or the argument, "Albanians are doing just fine, the frozen conflict works for them"?
When (un)truths are so self-evident, there is nothing to counter. Bye now.
(..., 27 September 2018 15:32)

So far, you have only impressed me for being rather eloquent for an uninformed person not being aware of it.

I suggest you change your screen name and start again afresh.

The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Aren’t you embarrassed to use both sides of an argument to try making a point. E.G. In one of your posts you argue that once Kosova get Schengen Visas the young people will flee Kosova, whereas in another post, such as the one you wrote below, you state that denying visas to Kosovars will encourage them to leave. Even you, I’m sure, can see the obvious contradiction in your statements.

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

Oh wow, a whole thread about my writing style, LOL.

Three Little Dots, I don't remember debating with you before, maybe with another of your personalities. In any case, since you have no coherent point to make (other than blurting out something about copy-paste), let me kindly tell you that I don't waste time with idiots.