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Friday, 17.08.2018.

11:41

Interior Ministry shuts down military camp for children

Interior Minister Nebojsa Stefanovic says a camp on Mt. Zlatibor, where children were learning military skills, has been closed.

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JS

pre 5 godina

@ skenderbeu

"Also can somebody explain to me why your Holy Father sent his beloved Son to the evil earth when he was aware that his Son would have been for sure crucified and suffered a terrible terrible death?"

Jesus said, "I and and the Father are one." (John 10:30) There is no disunity in the godhead.

"But seriously christians who is that Father who would send his son to death knowing that he the Father is sending him to death?"

It is not a new tale. The death of the Son is prefigured in Abraham being asked to sacrifice Isaac, a text that Muslims accept as holy scripture. The Father, in his great love, offers his Son for the life of humanity. God makes it possible for human beings to be reconciled to Himself. And with the Son and Holy co-eternal with the Father, it isn't as though the Son went unwillingly.

Jesus himself put it this way...."For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me...For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” (John 6:38-40)

"Before you stone me to death please remember that atheists and agnosticists as myself have same rights to exist under the sun!!"

Jesus said, give to those who ask and do not ask in return. If someone asks you to go a mile with them, willingly go two miles with them. Etc. There is no stoning anywhere in New Testament Christianity.

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

What kind of Father is this father here? What kind of tale is this?
(Skenderbeu 1444)
As atheist I would say, a religious fanatic father. Happened throughout history all the time. Jewish, Christian and Muslim fathers were and are too often proud when their sons die for some imagination in which they believe.
I know some people need this believe in an afterlife that is ok, as long as their believe is not used to create suffering. But when there spirituell leaders call for war or create hate and fear of the other believers they must be replaced. And in this point none of the 3 religions that even have the same god is better than the others. It is good that many christians and muslims are just on a paper christians or muslims today.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

Also can somebody explain to me why your Holy Father sent his beloved Son to the evil earth when he was aware that his Son would have been for sure crucified and suffered a terrible terrible death? To save humanity, I know the answer I know. But seriously christians who is that Father who would send his son to death knowing that he the Father is sending him to death? What kind of Father is this father here? What kind of tale is this? Arent muslims more rational when they dont accept this kind of interpretation and no mentions of fathers and sons in Quran? Before you stone me to death please remember that atheists and agnosticists as myself have same rights to exist under the sun!!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

Now regarding the military skills and military training I can give here personal experience. In high school and university as a serb obliged to live in Albania I and my friends had military training and military preparation program. It includes long marches know how to carry and handle weapon how to shoot. from different positions, laid on soil, on our feet, from bunker. Also protection from biological attack how to handle the antigas mask and other things. These are elementary skills and I believe it was a mistake to shut down this program of military preparation in schools. It helps young people being in good shape and is always a knowledge and asset that can be useful in life. Of course we were wearing military uniforms and we were only 14 years old adoleshents. The same goes for these youngsters here. So I believe the minister here has make a mistake.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

So much noise for nothing!! The age of these young guys goes from 12- 23. We dont know how many of them are between 18-23 and thats not a kid!! At 22-23 people have university degree in balkans so they are adults. How many of them are 18-23? 14-18? So high school and university? Which kids? Besides 12-14 are not kids either. If they are kids why is their privacy being violated and their pictures featured in all media as if they are criminals?

icj1

pre 5 godina

Heavens forbid an Albanian pick up a book on Economics - now you know why your economy is where it is buddy.... no GDP growth
(Chi, 17 August 2018 16:27)

It looks like you're stuck in the 20th century, dear! Albania has had GDP growth every year for the last 20 years. You might want to finally move to the 21st century like the rest of the world lol

Who

pre 5 godina

LOL, 17 August 2018 18:52)

Lala UÇK was founded by civilian people , during the milosevic /serbia regime . your army had lots of stolen jna weapon . If Kosova it’s your land come and get it , stop showing off your scrap. Why are you guys so against Kosovo Army??? Tough guys when you fight handcuff civilians , rapists and looters ...

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 5 godina

To : Adrian the Romanian

Sasa from Jagodina is very correct because I was in both Timosara and Pitesti and I can tell you the Romanian people are not too happy with their lives. In Romania is much worse than Srbija because most Romanian people live in apartment buildings, yes I know the new government finally gave them the apartments to keep in their names but still they live like sardines all packed together. In Srbija most of the the people own their own homes wheter it be in the cities or out in the rural country side. In Romania I did not see too many homes out in the rural country and if any they were very poor buildings. Romania is very beautiful rural country, I love Translvania and I visit castle where Dracula lived ! I believe in Vampire, do you believe in vampire Adrian ???

JS

pre 5 godina

@ Tito reloaded

"'humanitarian patriotic camp where children learn traditional Serbian values' is running around with weapons in the wood and combat training in military clothes?
I support children beeing in the nature as much as possible but first aid, survival, sleeping outside ,.. would have been enough fun for the children.
Instead of patriotic camps it would be better to have camps with children from different origins to create contacts over artificial ethnical borders."

I agree. Ethnicity is something created, almost artificial. Ethnicity is relative and fluid, it changes over time.

The only thing that is fixed and enduring is God and his creation. There is only one kingdom that really matters. And that kingdom is entered by yielding to the eternal Father who revealed himself in the Son and inspires people through his Holy Spirit. Ethnic identities are cheap misfits for the only identity that really matters -- being identified with the crucified and risen Savior.

Sasa from near Jagodina

pre 5 godina

heard that Vucic will raise pensions with 9% and that Serbia need workers , Serbia have one of lowest gdp from the planet , from gdp can be raised salaries and pensions , not that Romania would be better but the gdp of Serbia is a totaly disaster . The ones who have gdp at least 18000 euro are the ones who live decent . that 9% will be eat by inflation . The reality is that Serbia don`t have gdp , minimum gdp for say you have a chance have to be 10000 euro
(adrian_romania, 17 August 2018 16:24)

Adrian ,we Serbs do not have 100,000 people protesting in our main square of your capital city .
We do not even get that to a football game in Belgrade that many people ,but you get it in Bucharest because your people are so happy with the economical situation and there 1000 Euros that they cannot even buy food for the month .
Adrian ,look at your own backyard before yo rubbish other backyards )

LOL

pre 5 godina

NOW GIVE THEM A LOLLIPOP AND SLAP IN BACK OF THE NECK AND THROW THEM A BOOK ON ECONOMICS!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 August 2018 14:06)

Funny. I recall Albanians talking with pride about how they arm their children to fight and die for some God-forsaken nationalist cause all the time. Isn't that was led to that little put put tin pot terrorist organization known as the KLA that almost got wiped out were it not for a NATO intervention and now those kids are grown up with an overexaggerated sense of their accomplishment in history?

A pity the United States didn't throw you people a few books on mathematics and family planning back in the 1990s :)

Comm. Parrisson

pre 5 godina

If you want to do something for your children, set up a scout holiday camp, but no military drill exercises for underaged.
How can such a think even be financially supported by local authorities?

Chi

pre 5 godina

Great news & quick response, Serbia shouldn't be breeding radical misfits in Europe's corner, were fed up with misfits like Ratko Maldives's, Rodovan Karaidic, Milosevich's & Arkans!!, NOW GIVE THEM A LOLLIPOP AND SLAP IN BACK OF THE NECK AND THROW THEM A BOOK ON ECONOMICS!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 August 2018 14:06)

LOL Petey, the same can be said about you KLS Jr. Terrorists; however, you can throw them a BOOK ON ALBANIAN MYTHS - which is certainly popular with you people. Heavens forbid an Albanian pick up a book on Economics - now you know why your economy is where it is buddy.... no GDP growth, no bread, etc..

adrian_romania

pre 5 godina

I heard that Vucic will raise pensions with 9% and that Serbia need workers , Serbia have one of lowest gdp from the planet , from gdp can be raised salaries and pensions , not that Romania would be better but the gdp of Serbia is a totaly disaster . The ones who have gdp at least 18000 euro are the ones who live decent . that 9% will be eat by inflation . The reality is that Serbia don`t have gdp , minimum gdp for say you have a chance have to be 10000 euro

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Great news & quick response, Serbia shouldn't be breeding radical misfits in Europe's corner, were fed up with misfits like Ratko Maldives's, Rodovan Karaidic, Milosevich's & Arkans!!, NOW GIVE THEM A LOLLIPOP AND SLAP IN BACK OF THE NECK AND THROW THEM A BOOK ON ECONOMICS!!!

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

'humanitarian patriotic camp where children learn traditional Serbian values' is running around with weapons in the wood and combat training in military clothes?
I support children beeing in the nature as much as possible but first aid, survival, sleeping outside ,.. would have been enough fun for the children.
Instead of patriotic camps it would be better to have camps with children from different origins to create contacts over artificial ethnical borders.

adrian_romania

pre 5 godina

Goodbye Lenard

Last night Steaua Bucharest - Hajduk Split 2-1 after 0-0 first leg in Hrvatska Good Bye Hajduk Split first time in history when we eliminate this team !

September is coming for qualifications at european champhionship Romania - Montenegro then Serbia - Romania i think it would be good even a draw in Belgrade and then a win in Bucharest for finaly CRUSH SERBIA

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Great news & quick response, Serbia shouldn't be breeding radical misfits in Europe's corner, were fed up with misfits like Ratko Maldives's, Rodovan Karaidic, Milosevich's & Arkans!!, NOW GIVE THEM A LOLLIPOP AND SLAP IN BACK OF THE NECK AND THROW THEM A BOOK ON ECONOMICS!!!

Sasa from near Jagodina

pre 5 godina

heard that Vucic will raise pensions with 9% and that Serbia need workers , Serbia have one of lowest gdp from the planet , from gdp can be raised salaries and pensions , not that Romania would be better but the gdp of Serbia is a totaly disaster . The ones who have gdp at least 18000 euro are the ones who live decent . that 9% will be eat by inflation . The reality is that Serbia don`t have gdp , minimum gdp for say you have a chance have to be 10000 euro
(adrian_romania, 17 August 2018 16:24)

Adrian ,we Serbs do not have 100,000 people protesting in our main square of your capital city .
We do not even get that to a football game in Belgrade that many people ,but you get it in Bucharest because your people are so happy with the economical situation and there 1000 Euros that they cannot even buy food for the month .
Adrian ,look at your own backyard before yo rubbish other backyards )

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

'humanitarian patriotic camp where children learn traditional Serbian values' is running around with weapons in the wood and combat training in military clothes?
I support children beeing in the nature as much as possible but first aid, survival, sleeping outside ,.. would have been enough fun for the children.
Instead of patriotic camps it would be better to have camps with children from different origins to create contacts over artificial ethnical borders.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Great news & quick response, Serbia shouldn't be breeding radical misfits in Europe's corner, were fed up with misfits like Ratko Maldives's, Rodovan Karaidic, Milosevich's & Arkans!!, NOW GIVE THEM A LOLLIPOP AND SLAP IN BACK OF THE NECK AND THROW THEM A BOOK ON ECONOMICS!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 August 2018 14:06)

LOL Petey, the same can be said about you KLS Jr. Terrorists; however, you can throw them a BOOK ON ALBANIAN MYTHS - which is certainly popular with you people. Heavens forbid an Albanian pick up a book on Economics - now you know why your economy is where it is buddy.... no GDP growth, no bread, etc..

LOL

pre 5 godina

NOW GIVE THEM A LOLLIPOP AND SLAP IN BACK OF THE NECK AND THROW THEM A BOOK ON ECONOMICS!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 August 2018 14:06)

Funny. I recall Albanians talking with pride about how they arm their children to fight and die for some God-forsaken nationalist cause all the time. Isn't that was led to that little put put tin pot terrorist organization known as the KLA that almost got wiped out were it not for a NATO intervention and now those kids are grown up with an overexaggerated sense of their accomplishment in history?

A pity the United States didn't throw you people a few books on mathematics and family planning back in the 1990s :)

icj1

pre 5 godina

Heavens forbid an Albanian pick up a book on Economics - now you know why your economy is where it is buddy.... no GDP growth
(Chi, 17 August 2018 16:27)

It looks like you're stuck in the 20th century, dear! Albania has had GDP growth every year for the last 20 years. You might want to finally move to the 21st century like the rest of the world lol

Who

pre 5 godina

LOL, 17 August 2018 18:52)

Lala UÇK was founded by civilian people , during the milosevic /serbia regime . your army had lots of stolen jna weapon . If Kosova it’s your land come and get it , stop showing off your scrap. Why are you guys so against Kosovo Army??? Tough guys when you fight handcuff civilians , rapists and looters ...

Comm. Parrisson

pre 5 godina

If you want to do something for your children, set up a scout holiday camp, but no military drill exercises for underaged.
How can such a think even be financially supported by local authorities?

adrian_romania

pre 5 godina

Goodbye Lenard

Last night Steaua Bucharest - Hajduk Split 2-1 after 0-0 first leg in Hrvatska Good Bye Hajduk Split first time in history when we eliminate this team !

September is coming for qualifications at european champhionship Romania - Montenegro then Serbia - Romania i think it would be good even a draw in Belgrade and then a win in Bucharest for finaly CRUSH SERBIA

adrian_romania

pre 5 godina

I heard that Vucic will raise pensions with 9% and that Serbia need workers , Serbia have one of lowest gdp from the planet , from gdp can be raised salaries and pensions , not that Romania would be better but the gdp of Serbia is a totaly disaster . The ones who have gdp at least 18000 euro are the ones who live decent . that 9% will be eat by inflation . The reality is that Serbia don`t have gdp , minimum gdp for say you have a chance have to be 10000 euro

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

Now regarding the military skills and military training I can give here personal experience. In high school and university as a serb obliged to live in Albania I and my friends had military training and military preparation program. It includes long marches know how to carry and handle weapon how to shoot. from different positions, laid on soil, on our feet, from bunker. Also protection from biological attack how to handle the antigas mask and other things. These are elementary skills and I believe it was a mistake to shut down this program of military preparation in schools. It helps young people being in good shape and is always a knowledge and asset that can be useful in life. Of course we were wearing military uniforms and we were only 14 years old adoleshents. The same goes for these youngsters here. So I believe the minister here has make a mistake.

JS

pre 5 godina

@ Tito reloaded

"'humanitarian patriotic camp where children learn traditional Serbian values' is running around with weapons in the wood and combat training in military clothes?
I support children beeing in the nature as much as possible but first aid, survival, sleeping outside ,.. would have been enough fun for the children.
Instead of patriotic camps it would be better to have camps with children from different origins to create contacts over artificial ethnical borders."

I agree. Ethnicity is something created, almost artificial. Ethnicity is relative and fluid, it changes over time.

The only thing that is fixed and enduring is God and his creation. There is only one kingdom that really matters. And that kingdom is entered by yielding to the eternal Father who revealed himself in the Son and inspires people through his Holy Spirit. Ethnic identities are cheap misfits for the only identity that really matters -- being identified with the crucified and risen Savior.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

Also can somebody explain to me why your Holy Father sent his beloved Son to the evil earth when he was aware that his Son would have been for sure crucified and suffered a terrible terrible death? To save humanity, I know the answer I know. But seriously christians who is that Father who would send his son to death knowing that he the Father is sending him to death? What kind of Father is this father here? What kind of tale is this? Arent muslims more rational when they dont accept this kind of interpretation and no mentions of fathers and sons in Quran? Before you stone me to death please remember that atheists and agnosticists as myself have same rights to exist under the sun!!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 5 godina

To : Adrian the Romanian

Sasa from Jagodina is very correct because I was in both Timosara and Pitesti and I can tell you the Romanian people are not too happy with their lives. In Romania is much worse than Srbija because most Romanian people live in apartment buildings, yes I know the new government finally gave them the apartments to keep in their names but still they live like sardines all packed together. In Srbija most of the the people own their own homes wheter it be in the cities or out in the rural country side. In Romania I did not see too many homes out in the rural country and if any they were very poor buildings. Romania is very beautiful rural country, I love Translvania and I visit castle where Dracula lived ! I believe in Vampire, do you believe in vampire Adrian ???

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

So much noise for nothing!! The age of these young guys goes from 12- 23. We dont know how many of them are between 18-23 and thats not a kid!! At 22-23 people have university degree in balkans so they are adults. How many of them are 18-23? 14-18? So high school and university? Which kids? Besides 12-14 are not kids either. If they are kids why is their privacy being violated and their pictures featured in all media as if they are criminals?

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

What kind of Father is this father here? What kind of tale is this?
(Skenderbeu 1444)
As atheist I would say, a religious fanatic father. Happened throughout history all the time. Jewish, Christian and Muslim fathers were and are too often proud when their sons die for some imagination in which they believe.
I know some people need this believe in an afterlife that is ok, as long as their believe is not used to create suffering. But when there spirituell leaders call for war or create hate and fear of the other believers they must be replaced. And in this point none of the 3 religions that even have the same god is better than the others. It is good that many christians and muslims are just on a paper christians or muslims today.

JS

pre 5 godina

@ skenderbeu

"Also can somebody explain to me why your Holy Father sent his beloved Son to the evil earth when he was aware that his Son would have been for sure crucified and suffered a terrible terrible death?"

Jesus said, "I and and the Father are one." (John 10:30) There is no disunity in the godhead.

"But seriously christians who is that Father who would send his son to death knowing that he the Father is sending him to death?"

It is not a new tale. The death of the Son is prefigured in Abraham being asked to sacrifice Isaac, a text that Muslims accept as holy scripture. The Father, in his great love, offers his Son for the life of humanity. God makes it possible for human beings to be reconciled to Himself. And with the Son and Holy co-eternal with the Father, it isn't as though the Son went unwillingly.

Jesus himself put it this way...."For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me...For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” (John 6:38-40)

"Before you stone me to death please remember that atheists and agnosticists as myself have same rights to exist under the sun!!"

Jesus said, give to those who ask and do not ask in return. If someone asks you to go a mile with them, willingly go two miles with them. Etc. There is no stoning anywhere in New Testament Christianity.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Great news & quick response, Serbia shouldn't be breeding radical misfits in Europe's corner, were fed up with misfits like Ratko Maldives's, Rodovan Karaidic, Milosevich's & Arkans!!, NOW GIVE THEM A LOLLIPOP AND SLAP IN BACK OF THE NECK AND THROW THEM A BOOK ON ECONOMICS!!!

adrian_romania

pre 5 godina

Goodbye Lenard

Last night Steaua Bucharest - Hajduk Split 2-1 after 0-0 first leg in Hrvatska Good Bye Hajduk Split first time in history when we eliminate this team !

September is coming for qualifications at european champhionship Romania - Montenegro then Serbia - Romania i think it would be good even a draw in Belgrade and then a win in Bucharest for finaly CRUSH SERBIA

adrian_romania

pre 5 godina

I heard that Vucic will raise pensions with 9% and that Serbia need workers , Serbia have one of lowest gdp from the planet , from gdp can be raised salaries and pensions , not that Romania would be better but the gdp of Serbia is a totaly disaster . The ones who have gdp at least 18000 euro are the ones who live decent . that 9% will be eat by inflation . The reality is that Serbia don`t have gdp , minimum gdp for say you have a chance have to be 10000 euro

Chi

pre 5 godina

Great news & quick response, Serbia shouldn't be breeding radical misfits in Europe's corner, were fed up with misfits like Ratko Maldives's, Rodovan Karaidic, Milosevich's & Arkans!!, NOW GIVE THEM A LOLLIPOP AND SLAP IN BACK OF THE NECK AND THROW THEM A BOOK ON ECONOMICS!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 August 2018 14:06)

LOL Petey, the same can be said about you KLS Jr. Terrorists; however, you can throw them a BOOK ON ALBANIAN MYTHS - which is certainly popular with you people. Heavens forbid an Albanian pick up a book on Economics - now you know why your economy is where it is buddy.... no GDP growth, no bread, etc..

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

'humanitarian patriotic camp where children learn traditional Serbian values' is running around with weapons in the wood and combat training in military clothes?
I support children beeing in the nature as much as possible but first aid, survival, sleeping outside ,.. would have been enough fun for the children.
Instead of patriotic camps it would be better to have camps with children from different origins to create contacts over artificial ethnical borders.

LOL

pre 5 godina

NOW GIVE THEM A LOLLIPOP AND SLAP IN BACK OF THE NECK AND THROW THEM A BOOK ON ECONOMICS!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 August 2018 14:06)

Funny. I recall Albanians talking with pride about how they arm their children to fight and die for some God-forsaken nationalist cause all the time. Isn't that was led to that little put put tin pot terrorist organization known as the KLA that almost got wiped out were it not for a NATO intervention and now those kids are grown up with an overexaggerated sense of their accomplishment in history?

A pity the United States didn't throw you people a few books on mathematics and family planning back in the 1990s :)

Comm. Parrisson

pre 5 godina

If you want to do something for your children, set up a scout holiday camp, but no military drill exercises for underaged.
How can such a think even be financially supported by local authorities?

Who

pre 5 godina

LOL, 17 August 2018 18:52)

Lala UÇK was founded by civilian people , during the milosevic /serbia regime . your army had lots of stolen jna weapon . If Kosova it’s your land come and get it , stop showing off your scrap. Why are you guys so against Kosovo Army??? Tough guys when you fight handcuff civilians , rapists and looters ...

icj1

pre 5 godina

Heavens forbid an Albanian pick up a book on Economics - now you know why your economy is where it is buddy.... no GDP growth
(Chi, 17 August 2018 16:27)

It looks like you're stuck in the 20th century, dear! Albania has had GDP growth every year for the last 20 years. You might want to finally move to the 21st century like the rest of the world lol

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

Also can somebody explain to me why your Holy Father sent his beloved Son to the evil earth when he was aware that his Son would have been for sure crucified and suffered a terrible terrible death? To save humanity, I know the answer I know. But seriously christians who is that Father who would send his son to death knowing that he the Father is sending him to death? What kind of Father is this father here? What kind of tale is this? Arent muslims more rational when they dont accept this kind of interpretation and no mentions of fathers and sons in Quran? Before you stone me to death please remember that atheists and agnosticists as myself have same rights to exist under the sun!!

Sasa from near Jagodina

pre 5 godina

heard that Vucic will raise pensions with 9% and that Serbia need workers , Serbia have one of lowest gdp from the planet , from gdp can be raised salaries and pensions , not that Romania would be better but the gdp of Serbia is a totaly disaster . The ones who have gdp at least 18000 euro are the ones who live decent . that 9% will be eat by inflation . The reality is that Serbia don`t have gdp , minimum gdp for say you have a chance have to be 10000 euro
(adrian_romania, 17 August 2018 16:24)

Adrian ,we Serbs do not have 100,000 people protesting in our main square of your capital city .
We do not even get that to a football game in Belgrade that many people ,but you get it in Bucharest because your people are so happy with the economical situation and there 1000 Euros that they cannot even buy food for the month .
Adrian ,look at your own backyard before yo rubbish other backyards )

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 5 godina

To : Adrian the Romanian

Sasa from Jagodina is very correct because I was in both Timosara and Pitesti and I can tell you the Romanian people are not too happy with their lives. In Romania is much worse than Srbija because most Romanian people live in apartment buildings, yes I know the new government finally gave them the apartments to keep in their names but still they live like sardines all packed together. In Srbija most of the the people own their own homes wheter it be in the cities or out in the rural country side. In Romania I did not see too many homes out in the rural country and if any they were very poor buildings. Romania is very beautiful rural country, I love Translvania and I visit castle where Dracula lived ! I believe in Vampire, do you believe in vampire Adrian ???

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

Now regarding the military skills and military training I can give here personal experience. In high school and university as a serb obliged to live in Albania I and my friends had military training and military preparation program. It includes long marches know how to carry and handle weapon how to shoot. from different positions, laid on soil, on our feet, from bunker. Also protection from biological attack how to handle the antigas mask and other things. These are elementary skills and I believe it was a mistake to shut down this program of military preparation in schools. It helps young people being in good shape and is always a knowledge and asset that can be useful in life. Of course we were wearing military uniforms and we were only 14 years old adoleshents. The same goes for these youngsters here. So I believe the minister here has make a mistake.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

So much noise for nothing!! The age of these young guys goes from 12- 23. We dont know how many of them are between 18-23 and thats not a kid!! At 22-23 people have university degree in balkans so they are adults. How many of them are 18-23? 14-18? So high school and university? Which kids? Besides 12-14 are not kids either. If they are kids why is their privacy being violated and their pictures featured in all media as if they are criminals?

JS

pre 5 godina

@ Tito reloaded

"'humanitarian patriotic camp where children learn traditional Serbian values' is running around with weapons in the wood and combat training in military clothes?
I support children beeing in the nature as much as possible but first aid, survival, sleeping outside ,.. would have been enough fun for the children.
Instead of patriotic camps it would be better to have camps with children from different origins to create contacts over artificial ethnical borders."

I agree. Ethnicity is something created, almost artificial. Ethnicity is relative and fluid, it changes over time.

The only thing that is fixed and enduring is God and his creation. There is only one kingdom that really matters. And that kingdom is entered by yielding to the eternal Father who revealed himself in the Son and inspires people through his Holy Spirit. Ethnic identities are cheap misfits for the only identity that really matters -- being identified with the crucified and risen Savior.

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

What kind of Father is this father here? What kind of tale is this?
(Skenderbeu 1444)
As atheist I would say, a religious fanatic father. Happened throughout history all the time. Jewish, Christian and Muslim fathers were and are too often proud when their sons die for some imagination in which they believe.
I know some people need this believe in an afterlife that is ok, as long as their believe is not used to create suffering. But when there spirituell leaders call for war or create hate and fear of the other believers they must be replaced. And in this point none of the 3 religions that even have the same god is better than the others. It is good that many christians and muslims are just on a paper christians or muslims today.

JS

pre 5 godina

@ skenderbeu

"Also can somebody explain to me why your Holy Father sent his beloved Son to the evil earth when he was aware that his Son would have been for sure crucified and suffered a terrible terrible death?"

Jesus said, "I and and the Father are one." (John 10:30) There is no disunity in the godhead.

"But seriously christians who is that Father who would send his son to death knowing that he the Father is sending him to death?"

It is not a new tale. The death of the Son is prefigured in Abraham being asked to sacrifice Isaac, a text that Muslims accept as holy scripture. The Father, in his great love, offers his Son for the life of humanity. God makes it possible for human beings to be reconciled to Himself. And with the Son and Holy co-eternal with the Father, it isn't as though the Son went unwillingly.

Jesus himself put it this way...."For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me...For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” (John 6:38-40)

"Before you stone me to death please remember that atheists and agnosticists as myself have same rights to exist under the sun!!"

Jesus said, give to those who ask and do not ask in return. If someone asks you to go a mile with them, willingly go two miles with them. Etc. There is no stoning anywhere in New Testament Christianity.