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Tuesday, 17.07.2018.

14:26

Local Albanians want "Presevo Valley" included in dialogue

The leader of the ethnic Albanian DPA party in Presevo says Pristina should end the dialogue with Belgrade unless the topic of the "Presevo Valley" is included.

Izvor: Tanjug

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icj1

pre 5 godina

Now why don't you albo's lay claim to Texas & California
(Watcherovic, 18 July 2018 16:47)

Why should they?! Just because you are obsessed with laying claim to parcels of lands of others, that does not mean that everybody is like you, dear!

Maps

pre 5 godina

@KiM, if Serbia wants to circumvent Presevo Valley if it became part of Kosovo with another highway wrapping around it, it can do that. It would still be popular since it would avoid 2 border checks. This is about people not wanting to be under your jurisdiction, not roads. If the Hungarians liked being under Romanian rule, good for them. Albanians don't want to be under Serbian rule. You can find the reasons in your past behavior and accept them. It's easier to accept wrongdoing than to ask others to purposefully develop Stockholm syndrome.

KiM

pre 5 godina

Let’s be honest, we all know that the Serbia-Kosovo contest can easily be resolved by a Northern-Kosovo for Presevo Valley land swap between the two. (Maps, 18 July 2018 01:50)

Let’s be honest 'Maps' the only reason Albanians want Presevo valley is to cut the major road link between Skopje and Nis. So all triaffic traveling through Serbia towards Greece would then need to cross into ‘un-natural Albania’ before entering Macedonia then onto Greece. ‘Ain’t nobody got time for dat’

The best way to resolve the Kosovo issue is for KiM to return to Serbia and to use the model used in Romania for minority rights, which gives its 1.3million Hungarian community in Romania rights to use Hungarian language in public administration in settlements where Hungarians minority exceed 20% of the population.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 July 2018 14:45

@ tomaslav - Answer Chi's question above, tomaj! That's rude! You cannot answer a question with a question! Now why don't you albo's lay claim to Texas & California as "Albanian' land????
Seems like anything that's not screwed or hammered down will be stolen, I mean "claimed", by you albo's....
(Watcherovic, 18 July 2018 16:47)

I answer questions the way I choose to answer, but this still doesn't change the fact that you the Serbs came to the Balkans from central Asia, hence the huge linguistic similarities with Ukrainian language. Sorry to bust your myth.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Hey Albos, why don't you also include Texas and California! Maybe you can beat Mexico to the punch. LOLOLOL....
(Chi, 18 July 2018 12:35)

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 July 2018 14:45

@ tomaslav - Answer Chi's question above, tomaj! That's rude! You cannot answer a question with a question! Now why don't you albo's lay claim to Texas & California as "Albanian' land????
Seems like anything that's not screwed or hammered down will be stolen, I mean "claimed", by you albo's....

Chi

pre 5 godina

Hey Albos, why don't you also include Texas and California! Maybe you can beat Mexico to the punch. LOLOLOL....
(Chi, 18 July 2018 12:35)

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 July 2018 14:45

As long as you go back to your beloved Anatolia first Tommy Boy.....

icj1

pre 5 godina

US paid China over $30 million USD after the CIA directed bombing of the Chinese Embassy.
(Hashim, 17 July 2018 20:46)

Yes, but only after China agreed to pay for the damage to the US Embassy and other US diplomatic facilities in China

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Hey Albos, why don't you also include Texas and California! Maybe you can beat Mexico to the punch. LOLOLOL....
(Chi, 18 July 2018 12:35)

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.

Smart Serb

pre 5 godina

If these dont want to live in Serbia including Kosovo* our southern province, then kindly depart back to Tirana or Skopje.
Your not welcome in Serbia.
Kosovo* is Serbia

Tony (a Brit working in Berlin)

pre 5 godina

Well they can also include Berlin as well... there are enough of them here. Its a great pity that they do not contribute anything to German society; apart from crime that is.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 July 2018 16:05)

I see the world should be shaking with fear from Albo retribution LOL. Albos cannot scratch themselves without approval and you think that you can decide your fate LOL.
Pete waiting for your predictions to come to fruition with great anticipation.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Hashim, 17 July 2018 20:46)

Hassan, your stuck, like nearly all Albos in 1999. Its 2018; move on. Yes it was a different time then. It was a time when the US was the only power. Its totally different today. Move on!

That bombing cost the US a hell of a lot more than $30 million – Don’t know where you even got that figure; probably read it in one of the cubicals, but what’s the point of trying to explain since it would just whizz over your head and you would not understand it anyway.

ari

pre 5 godina

100% they are right why should Serbian minority get more rights then Albanians under occupation of Serbia in Preshevo . They must be included in negotiations and not only them but also Sanxhak regions and Nish. All muhaxhirs all Albanian refugies that where expelled by Serbs should be abel to return to their land. Evrything must be negotiated war crimes, damages, payments of the money owed from former Yugosllavia everything. Thaci is trying to make a quick deal with Vucic to keep his power.

BeenFollowingThings

pre 5 godina

Sorry Albos, but you lost Preševo in 2001 - just like Serbians lost Kosovo. Your greed for more ended up NATO itself turning against you. Dear Albos in Preševo and Serbs in Kosovo, if you so much want to belong to Kosovo or Serbia, use your feet and emigrate to the country of your desire.

Azir

pre 5 godina

China was compensated for the unintentional :) bombing but I stand corrected China 🇨🇳 didn’t declare war on NATO IN DEFENCE OF SERBIA!

Russia was also in agreement to not get involved and risk destruction.

icj1

pre 5 godina

We are living in the different world now, where even the US president calls the mainstream media in his own country, fake news.
(Zoran, 17 July 2018 18:00)

That's great that finally even the US president can see the fake news spread by mainstream media like Fox News... The most patriotic of Serbs had realised long ago that Fox News is fake news.

Maps

pre 5 godina

Let’s be honest, we all know that the Serbia-Kosovo contest can easily be resolved by a Northern-Kosovo for Presevo Valley land swap between the two. It’s actually the easiest contest to solve in the Balkans. The problem is other more complex geographies that are not as easily resolved, like Bosnia and Macedonia, making the big powers uneasy of creating a precedent. Merging RS with Serbia is difficult because of how choppy the territory is. It’s easier to merge the Croatian side with Croatia. Macedonia is also difficult to split, it would require an Albania-Kosovo-West Macedonia merger in order for the map to look right in the end.

Who

pre 5 godina

Srbija is playing it smarter and getting "return" for their stubbornness..your "kosova" cannot afford that because "kosova" doesn't belong to you to begin with...
(Wtcherovic, 17 July 2018 18:18)

What? Getting return ? You mean to tell me you are getting Kosova back? Hahahaha please explain why do you even have to go to Brussels to begin with, Kosova don’t belong to us anyway

Azir

pre 5 godina

Dear ignorant Slavs:

UNSC established and financed the War Crimes Tribunal for Former Yugoslavia ..

Of which CHINA 🇨🇳 APPROVED!

Majority of convicted war criminals are SERBS!

Where has China “ helped “ you?

Serbia was bombed and CHINA STOOD SILENT.

Don’t hold your breath for China coming to your rescue...but on second thought serbs hold your breath !

LOL

pre 5 godina

It's unbelievable the amount of hypocrisy that comes from Serbs.
(Albanopolis, 17 July 2018 18:11)

It's even more unbelievable the amount of triggered butthurt coming from Albanians too ignorant to realize they walk into their own jokes just by opening their mouths and issuing demands they know make no sense.

Albanians of Presevo Valley are part of Serbia Proper and are afforded the same degrees of minority rights of Hungarians, Croats, Romanians, and Slovaks - NONE of whom piss and moan about being oppressed in Serbia. Albanians of Presevo Valley don't need international involvement to force a government to treat them like human beings the way Albanians in Kosovo need to be pressured to treat every non-Albanian community. When was the last time you read about a Presevo Albanian being harassed by Serbian police?

And I deliberately brought up your own oppressed and Albanified minorities because every time you complain about the plight of Albanians somewhere else, all someone has to do is bring up the Greeks of Northern Epiros in order for you to go ballistic through your keyboard about either their protected rights that don't exist, or suddenly bring up the allegedly oppressed rights of Albanians in Greece.

You always demand a mile without wanting to give an inch.

Predictably hilarious :)

Hashim

pre 5 godina

Sj the ignorant...
CHINA has its Embassy bombed and did NOTHING little Sj.
Azir

US paid China over $30 million USD after the CIA directed bombing of the Chinese Embassy.
We expect stupid comments from your Lenard and Joni characters.
You're slipping.

Sreten

pre 5 godina

It is , actually, reasonable request. Not only them, but Sandjak, too. And Macedonia, Rs in Bosnia...
That was one way to resolve Yugoslavian knot - don't force anybody to live in the state they don't want to live in!
Why would Albanians in Kosovo be forced to live in Serbia, or Krajina Serbs to live in Croatia?
West had another idea - Six republics have to keep their integrity (Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia , Montenegro and Macedonia)
But, that could have worked, too, if they only stick to it...

Wtcherovic

pre 5 godina

@sj
Poor sj your nearsightedness has been evident for a long time, you just don't see the long term plan and how the final outcome will turnout do you?
Well, I'm here to help you see things more clearly, u see we don't care what china has to say about anything as china is irrelevant here in Europe, China, Russia, Serbia will not decide the fate of 6.5 million Albanians, we the Albanian nation shall decide our fate!
Another thing you may have forgotten little sj, you remember that map that Russia made available a few years back? Well it's coming into fruition very soon little sj, and you will be witness to a reality that is going to smack dead in your face pal!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 July 2018 16:05)
@ peterovic - You or "we" as you put are way too small to make a difference if you "care" or not!
You, as well as Srbija, will do as told...and you will like it!
It's just that Srbija is playing it smarter and getting "return" for their stubbornness..your "kosova" cannot afford that because "kosova" doesn't belong to you to begin with...

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

Srbin: "Now they'll want Sandzak to be a part of the dialogue"
LOL: "Sure and while we're at it, let's include Serbs of northern Albania and Greeks of Northern Epiros :)"

Sandzak should be part of the dialogue with Bosnia, and should be provided the same level of rights as the Serbs there; The Bosnian Republic in Serbia should have the same attributes as the Serbian Republic in Bosnia.

If you want a ZSO for Serbs in Kosova, you should be ready to grant a ZSO to Albanians in Presheva, Bujanovc, Medvegje.

Please do include Serbs of Northern Albania in any talks, if you can find them.

And if Greece would like to provide parity between the status of Greeks in "Northern Epiros" and Albanians in Chameria/Greece that would be super as well.

It's unbelievable the amount of hypocrisy that comes from Serbs. Their minorities have a lot more rights as it is, yet they want more while they are not willing to even provide a tenth of those rights to other minorities.

Zoran

pre 5 godina

I think Albanians are going to want Switzerland in the negotiations next. After watching the football, seems they have laid claim there also.

But it's true, Albanians are still living in the 90s and remain brainwashed by the fake news of that decade. We are living in the different world now, where even the US president calls the mainstream media in his own country, fake news.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

@sj
Poor sj your nearsightedness has been evident for a long time, you just don't see the long term plan and how the final outcome will turnout do you?
Well, I'm here to help you see things more clearly, u see we don't care what china has to say about anything as china is irrelevant here in Europe, China, Russia, Serbia will not decide the fate of 6.5 million Albanians, we the Albanian nation shall decide our fate!
Another thing you may have forgotten little sj, you remember that map that Russia made available a few years back? Well it's coming into fruition very soon little sj, and you will be witness to a reality that is going to smack dead in your face pal!

Bullwinkle

pre 5 godina

u see we don't care what china has to say about anything as china is irrelevant here in Europe, China, Russia, Serbia will not decide the fate of 6.5 million Albanians, we the Albanian nation shall decide our fate!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 July 2018 16:05)

Rocky my favorite little peasant, who needs any of them when the Albanian population is declining and tends of thousands of Albanians are leaving the Balkans every year for better life in Europe and the US, just like your parents did. Almost half of all Albanians live outside the region already and none of them have any intentions of returning. Presevo is emptying of its Albanian population, which is why some of them want to be part of these talks in order to avoid disappearing altogether.

You talk big for a diaspora living in the United States.

Azir

pre 5 godina

Sj the ignorant:

Eastern Kosova (Presheva,Medvedja And Bujanoc) will be included in Brussels as the Kosovar-Serb settlers were ....

Serbs are committing suicide and here Sj is trying claim investments are bringing fortunes never seen before ...lol 😄

Serbia lost to NATO/UCK

CHINA has its Embassy bombed and did NOTHING little Sj.

sj

pre 5 godina

Poor Albos; they want Preshavo as part of the talks. What they dont understand is that these talks are only going to go around in circles because Serbia is not going to let Kosovo go anywhere. All this talk about partitioning Kosovo is diversion.

Read what the new world economic super power, China, has said about Kosovo, its part of Serbia and that's how its going to stay. Why do these Albanians continue ti live in 1999???? Its 2018.

sj

pre 5 godina

Poor Albos; they want Preshavo as part of the talks. What they dont understand is that these talks are only going to go around in circles because Serbia is not going to let Kosovo go anywhere. All this talk about partitioning Kosovo is diversion.

Read what the new world economic super power, China, has said about Kosovo, its part of Serbia and that's how its going to stay. Why do these Albanians continue ti live in 1999???? Its 2018.

Bullwinkle

pre 5 godina

u see we don't care what china has to say about anything as china is irrelevant here in Europe, China, Russia, Serbia will not decide the fate of 6.5 million Albanians, we the Albanian nation shall decide our fate!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 July 2018 16:05)

Rocky my favorite little peasant, who needs any of them when the Albanian population is declining and tends of thousands of Albanians are leaving the Balkans every year for better life in Europe and the US, just like your parents did. Almost half of all Albanians live outside the region already and none of them have any intentions of returning. Presevo is emptying of its Albanian population, which is why some of them want to be part of these talks in order to avoid disappearing altogether.

You talk big for a diaspora living in the United States.

Azir

pre 5 godina

Sj the ignorant:

Eastern Kosova (Presheva,Medvedja And Bujanoc) will be included in Brussels as the Kosovar-Serb settlers were ....

Serbs are committing suicide and here Sj is trying claim investments are bringing fortunes never seen before ...lol 😄

Serbia lost to NATO/UCK

CHINA has its Embassy bombed and did NOTHING little Sj.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

@sj
Poor sj your nearsightedness has been evident for a long time, you just don't see the long term plan and how the final outcome will turnout do you?
Well, I'm here to help you see things more clearly, u see we don't care what china has to say about anything as china is irrelevant here in Europe, China, Russia, Serbia will not decide the fate of 6.5 million Albanians, we the Albanian nation shall decide our fate!
Another thing you may have forgotten little sj, you remember that map that Russia made available a few years back? Well it's coming into fruition very soon little sj, and you will be witness to a reality that is going to smack dead in your face pal!

Zoran

pre 5 godina

I think Albanians are going to want Switzerland in the negotiations next. After watching the football, seems they have laid claim there also.

But it's true, Albanians are still living in the 90s and remain brainwashed by the fake news of that decade. We are living in the different world now, where even the US president calls the mainstream media in his own country, fake news.

Hashim

pre 5 godina

Sj the ignorant...
CHINA has its Embassy bombed and did NOTHING little Sj.
Azir

US paid China over $30 million USD after the CIA directed bombing of the Chinese Embassy.
We expect stupid comments from your Lenard and Joni characters.
You're slipping.

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

Srbin: "Now they'll want Sandzak to be a part of the dialogue"
LOL: "Sure and while we're at it, let's include Serbs of northern Albania and Greeks of Northern Epiros :)"

Sandzak should be part of the dialogue with Bosnia, and should be provided the same level of rights as the Serbs there; The Bosnian Republic in Serbia should have the same attributes as the Serbian Republic in Bosnia.

If you want a ZSO for Serbs in Kosova, you should be ready to grant a ZSO to Albanians in Presheva, Bujanovc, Medvegje.

Please do include Serbs of Northern Albania in any talks, if you can find them.

And if Greece would like to provide parity between the status of Greeks in "Northern Epiros" and Albanians in Chameria/Greece that would be super as well.

It's unbelievable the amount of hypocrisy that comes from Serbs. Their minorities have a lot more rights as it is, yet they want more while they are not willing to even provide a tenth of those rights to other minorities.

Tony (a Brit working in Berlin)

pre 5 godina

Well they can also include Berlin as well... there are enough of them here. Its a great pity that they do not contribute anything to German society; apart from crime that is.

Wtcherovic

pre 5 godina

@sj
Poor sj your nearsightedness has been evident for a long time, you just don't see the long term plan and how the final outcome will turnout do you?
Well, I'm here to help you see things more clearly, u see we don't care what china has to say about anything as china is irrelevant here in Europe, China, Russia, Serbia will not decide the fate of 6.5 million Albanians, we the Albanian nation shall decide our fate!
Another thing you may have forgotten little sj, you remember that map that Russia made available a few years back? Well it's coming into fruition very soon little sj, and you will be witness to a reality that is going to smack dead in your face pal!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 July 2018 16:05)
@ peterovic - You or "we" as you put are way too small to make a difference if you "care" or not!
You, as well as Srbija, will do as told...and you will like it!
It's just that Srbija is playing it smarter and getting "return" for their stubbornness..your "kosova" cannot afford that because "kosova" doesn't belong to you to begin with...

sj

pre 5 godina

(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 July 2018 16:05)

I see the world should be shaking with fear from Albo retribution LOL. Albos cannot scratch themselves without approval and you think that you can decide your fate LOL.
Pete waiting for your predictions to come to fruition with great anticipation.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 July 2018 14:45

@ tomaslav - Answer Chi's question above, tomaj! That's rude! You cannot answer a question with a question! Now why don't you albo's lay claim to Texas & California as "Albanian' land????
Seems like anything that's not screwed or hammered down will be stolen, I mean "claimed", by you albo's....
(Watcherovic, 18 July 2018 16:47)

I answer questions the way I choose to answer, but this still doesn't change the fact that you the Serbs came to the Balkans from central Asia, hence the huge linguistic similarities with Ukrainian language. Sorry to bust your myth.

Azir

pre 5 godina

Dear ignorant Slavs:

UNSC established and financed the War Crimes Tribunal for Former Yugoslavia ..

Of which CHINA 🇨🇳 APPROVED!

Majority of convicted war criminals are SERBS!

Where has China “ helped “ you?

Serbia was bombed and CHINA STOOD SILENT.

Don’t hold your breath for China coming to your rescue...but on second thought serbs hold your breath !

LOL

pre 5 godina

It's unbelievable the amount of hypocrisy that comes from Serbs.
(Albanopolis, 17 July 2018 18:11)

It's even more unbelievable the amount of triggered butthurt coming from Albanians too ignorant to realize they walk into their own jokes just by opening their mouths and issuing demands they know make no sense.

Albanians of Presevo Valley are part of Serbia Proper and are afforded the same degrees of minority rights of Hungarians, Croats, Romanians, and Slovaks - NONE of whom piss and moan about being oppressed in Serbia. Albanians of Presevo Valley don't need international involvement to force a government to treat them like human beings the way Albanians in Kosovo need to be pressured to treat every non-Albanian community. When was the last time you read about a Presevo Albanian being harassed by Serbian police?

And I deliberately brought up your own oppressed and Albanified minorities because every time you complain about the plight of Albanians somewhere else, all someone has to do is bring up the Greeks of Northern Epiros in order for you to go ballistic through your keyboard about either their protected rights that don't exist, or suddenly bring up the allegedly oppressed rights of Albanians in Greece.

You always demand a mile without wanting to give an inch.

Predictably hilarious :)

ari

pre 5 godina

100% they are right why should Serbian minority get more rights then Albanians under occupation of Serbia in Preshevo . They must be included in negotiations and not only them but also Sanxhak regions and Nish. All muhaxhirs all Albanian refugies that where expelled by Serbs should be abel to return to their land. Evrything must be negotiated war crimes, damages, payments of the money owed from former Yugosllavia everything. Thaci is trying to make a quick deal with Vucic to keep his power.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Hashim, 17 July 2018 20:46)

Hassan, your stuck, like nearly all Albos in 1999. Its 2018; move on. Yes it was a different time then. It was a time when the US was the only power. Its totally different today. Move on!

That bombing cost the US a hell of a lot more than $30 million – Don’t know where you even got that figure; probably read it in one of the cubicals, but what’s the point of trying to explain since it would just whizz over your head and you would not understand it anyway.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Hey Albos, why don't you also include Texas and California! Maybe you can beat Mexico to the punch. LOLOLOL....
(Chi, 18 July 2018 12:35)

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.

Sreten

pre 5 godina

It is , actually, reasonable request. Not only them, but Sandjak, too. And Macedonia, Rs in Bosnia...
That was one way to resolve Yugoslavian knot - don't force anybody to live in the state they don't want to live in!
Why would Albanians in Kosovo be forced to live in Serbia, or Krajina Serbs to live in Croatia?
West had another idea - Six republics have to keep their integrity (Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia , Montenegro and Macedonia)
But, that could have worked, too, if they only stick to it...

Who

pre 5 godina

Srbija is playing it smarter and getting "return" for their stubbornness..your "kosova" cannot afford that because "kosova" doesn't belong to you to begin with...
(Wtcherovic, 17 July 2018 18:18)

What? Getting return ? You mean to tell me you are getting Kosova back? Hahahaha please explain why do you even have to go to Brussels to begin with, Kosova don’t belong to us anyway

Smart Serb

pre 5 godina

If these dont want to live in Serbia including Kosovo* our southern province, then kindly depart back to Tirana or Skopje.
Your not welcome in Serbia.
Kosovo* is Serbia

icj1

pre 5 godina

Now why don't you albo's lay claim to Texas & California
(Watcherovic, 18 July 2018 16:47)

Why should they?! Just because you are obsessed with laying claim to parcels of lands of others, that does not mean that everybody is like you, dear!

Maps

pre 5 godina

Let’s be honest, we all know that the Serbia-Kosovo contest can easily be resolved by a Northern-Kosovo for Presevo Valley land swap between the two. It’s actually the easiest contest to solve in the Balkans. The problem is other more complex geographies that are not as easily resolved, like Bosnia and Macedonia, making the big powers uneasy of creating a precedent. Merging RS with Serbia is difficult because of how choppy the territory is. It’s easier to merge the Croatian side with Croatia. Macedonia is also difficult to split, it would require an Albania-Kosovo-West Macedonia merger in order for the map to look right in the end.

Azir

pre 5 godina

China was compensated for the unintentional :) bombing but I stand corrected China 🇨🇳 didn’t declare war on NATO IN DEFENCE OF SERBIA!

Russia was also in agreement to not get involved and risk destruction.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Hey Albos, why don't you also include Texas and California! Maybe you can beat Mexico to the punch. LOLOLOL....
(Chi, 18 July 2018 12:35)

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 July 2018 14:45

As long as you go back to your beloved Anatolia first Tommy Boy.....

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Hey Albos, why don't you also include Texas and California! Maybe you can beat Mexico to the punch. LOLOLOL....
(Chi, 18 July 2018 12:35)

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 July 2018 14:45

@ tomaslav - Answer Chi's question above, tomaj! That's rude! You cannot answer a question with a question! Now why don't you albo's lay claim to Texas & California as "Albanian' land????
Seems like anything that's not screwed or hammered down will be stolen, I mean "claimed", by you albo's....

Maps

pre 5 godina

@KiM, if Serbia wants to circumvent Presevo Valley if it became part of Kosovo with another highway wrapping around it, it can do that. It would still be popular since it would avoid 2 border checks. This is about people not wanting to be under your jurisdiction, not roads. If the Hungarians liked being under Romanian rule, good for them. Albanians don't want to be under Serbian rule. You can find the reasons in your past behavior and accept them. It's easier to accept wrongdoing than to ask others to purposefully develop Stockholm syndrome.

icj1

pre 5 godina

We are living in the different world now, where even the US president calls the mainstream media in his own country, fake news.
(Zoran, 17 July 2018 18:00)

That's great that finally even the US president can see the fake news spread by mainstream media like Fox News... The most patriotic of Serbs had realised long ago that Fox News is fake news.

BeenFollowingThings

pre 5 godina

Sorry Albos, but you lost Preševo in 2001 - just like Serbians lost Kosovo. Your greed for more ended up NATO itself turning against you. Dear Albos in Preševo and Serbs in Kosovo, if you so much want to belong to Kosovo or Serbia, use your feet and emigrate to the country of your desire.

icj1

pre 5 godina

US paid China over $30 million USD after the CIA directed bombing of the Chinese Embassy.
(Hashim, 17 July 2018 20:46)

Yes, but only after China agreed to pay for the damage to the US Embassy and other US diplomatic facilities in China

KiM

pre 5 godina

Let’s be honest, we all know that the Serbia-Kosovo contest can easily be resolved by a Northern-Kosovo for Presevo Valley land swap between the two. (Maps, 18 July 2018 01:50)

Let’s be honest 'Maps' the only reason Albanians want Presevo valley is to cut the major road link between Skopje and Nis. So all triaffic traveling through Serbia towards Greece would then need to cross into ‘un-natural Albania’ before entering Macedonia then onto Greece. ‘Ain’t nobody got time for dat’

The best way to resolve the Kosovo issue is for KiM to return to Serbia and to use the model used in Romania for minority rights, which gives its 1.3million Hungarian community in Romania rights to use Hungarian language in public administration in settlements where Hungarians minority exceed 20% of the population.

Azir

pre 5 godina

Sj the ignorant:

Eastern Kosova (Presheva,Medvedja And Bujanoc) will be included in Brussels as the Kosovar-Serb settlers were ....

Serbs are committing suicide and here Sj is trying claim investments are bringing fortunes never seen before ...lol 😄

Serbia lost to NATO/UCK

CHINA has its Embassy bombed and did NOTHING little Sj.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

@sj
Poor sj your nearsightedness has been evident for a long time, you just don't see the long term plan and how the final outcome will turnout do you?
Well, I'm here to help you see things more clearly, u see we don't care what china has to say about anything as china is irrelevant here in Europe, China, Russia, Serbia will not decide the fate of 6.5 million Albanians, we the Albanian nation shall decide our fate!
Another thing you may have forgotten little sj, you remember that map that Russia made available a few years back? Well it's coming into fruition very soon little sj, and you will be witness to a reality that is going to smack dead in your face pal!

Bullwinkle

pre 5 godina

u see we don't care what china has to say about anything as china is irrelevant here in Europe, China, Russia, Serbia will not decide the fate of 6.5 million Albanians, we the Albanian nation shall decide our fate!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 July 2018 16:05)

Rocky my favorite little peasant, who needs any of them when the Albanian population is declining and tends of thousands of Albanians are leaving the Balkans every year for better life in Europe and the US, just like your parents did. Almost half of all Albanians live outside the region already and none of them have any intentions of returning. Presevo is emptying of its Albanian population, which is why some of them want to be part of these talks in order to avoid disappearing altogether.

You talk big for a diaspora living in the United States.

sj

pre 5 godina

Poor Albos; they want Preshavo as part of the talks. What they dont understand is that these talks are only going to go around in circles because Serbia is not going to let Kosovo go anywhere. All this talk about partitioning Kosovo is diversion.

Read what the new world economic super power, China, has said about Kosovo, its part of Serbia and that's how its going to stay. Why do these Albanians continue ti live in 1999???? Its 2018.

Hashim

pre 5 godina

Sj the ignorant...
CHINA has its Embassy bombed and did NOTHING little Sj.
Azir

US paid China over $30 million USD after the CIA directed bombing of the Chinese Embassy.
We expect stupid comments from your Lenard and Joni characters.
You're slipping.

Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

Srbin: "Now they'll want Sandzak to be a part of the dialogue"
LOL: "Sure and while we're at it, let's include Serbs of northern Albania and Greeks of Northern Epiros :)"

Sandzak should be part of the dialogue with Bosnia, and should be provided the same level of rights as the Serbs there; The Bosnian Republic in Serbia should have the same attributes as the Serbian Republic in Bosnia.

If you want a ZSO for Serbs in Kosova, you should be ready to grant a ZSO to Albanians in Presheva, Bujanovc, Medvegje.

Please do include Serbs of Northern Albania in any talks, if you can find them.

And if Greece would like to provide parity between the status of Greeks in "Northern Epiros" and Albanians in Chameria/Greece that would be super as well.

It's unbelievable the amount of hypocrisy that comes from Serbs. Their minorities have a lot more rights as it is, yet they want more while they are not willing to even provide a tenth of those rights to other minorities.

Azir

pre 5 godina

Dear ignorant Slavs:

UNSC established and financed the War Crimes Tribunal for Former Yugoslavia ..

Of which CHINA 🇨🇳 APPROVED!

Majority of convicted war criminals are SERBS!

Where has China “ helped “ you?

Serbia was bombed and CHINA STOOD SILENT.

Don’t hold your breath for China coming to your rescue...but on second thought serbs hold your breath !

Zoran

pre 5 godina

I think Albanians are going to want Switzerland in the negotiations next. After watching the football, seems they have laid claim there also.

But it's true, Albanians are still living in the 90s and remain brainwashed by the fake news of that decade. We are living in the different world now, where even the US president calls the mainstream media in his own country, fake news.

LOL

pre 5 godina

It's unbelievable the amount of hypocrisy that comes from Serbs.
(Albanopolis, 17 July 2018 18:11)

It's even more unbelievable the amount of triggered butthurt coming from Albanians too ignorant to realize they walk into their own jokes just by opening their mouths and issuing demands they know make no sense.

Albanians of Presevo Valley are part of Serbia Proper and are afforded the same degrees of minority rights of Hungarians, Croats, Romanians, and Slovaks - NONE of whom piss and moan about being oppressed in Serbia. Albanians of Presevo Valley don't need international involvement to force a government to treat them like human beings the way Albanians in Kosovo need to be pressured to treat every non-Albanian community. When was the last time you read about a Presevo Albanian being harassed by Serbian police?

And I deliberately brought up your own oppressed and Albanified minorities because every time you complain about the plight of Albanians somewhere else, all someone has to do is bring up the Greeks of Northern Epiros in order for you to go ballistic through your keyboard about either their protected rights that don't exist, or suddenly bring up the allegedly oppressed rights of Albanians in Greece.

You always demand a mile without wanting to give an inch.

Predictably hilarious :)

ari

pre 5 godina

100% they are right why should Serbian minority get more rights then Albanians under occupation of Serbia in Preshevo . They must be included in negotiations and not only them but also Sanxhak regions and Nish. All muhaxhirs all Albanian refugies that where expelled by Serbs should be abel to return to their land. Evrything must be negotiated war crimes, damages, payments of the money owed from former Yugosllavia everything. Thaci is trying to make a quick deal with Vucic to keep his power.

Smart Serb

pre 5 godina

If these dont want to live in Serbia including Kosovo* our southern province, then kindly depart back to Tirana or Skopje.
Your not welcome in Serbia.
Kosovo* is Serbia

Wtcherovic

pre 5 godina

@sj
Poor sj your nearsightedness has been evident for a long time, you just don't see the long term plan and how the final outcome will turnout do you?
Well, I'm here to help you see things more clearly, u see we don't care what china has to say about anything as china is irrelevant here in Europe, China, Russia, Serbia will not decide the fate of 6.5 million Albanians, we the Albanian nation shall decide our fate!
Another thing you may have forgotten little sj, you remember that map that Russia made available a few years back? Well it's coming into fruition very soon little sj, and you will be witness to a reality that is going to smack dead in your face pal!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 July 2018 16:05)
@ peterovic - You or "we" as you put are way too small to make a difference if you "care" or not!
You, as well as Srbija, will do as told...and you will like it!
It's just that Srbija is playing it smarter and getting "return" for their stubbornness..your "kosova" cannot afford that because "kosova" doesn't belong to you to begin with...

sj

pre 5 godina

(Hashim, 17 July 2018 20:46)

Hassan, your stuck, like nearly all Albos in 1999. Its 2018; move on. Yes it was a different time then. It was a time when the US was the only power. Its totally different today. Move on!

That bombing cost the US a hell of a lot more than $30 million – Don’t know where you even got that figure; probably read it in one of the cubicals, but what’s the point of trying to explain since it would just whizz over your head and you would not understand it anyway.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 17 July 2018 16:05)

I see the world should be shaking with fear from Albo retribution LOL. Albos cannot scratch themselves without approval and you think that you can decide your fate LOL.
Pete waiting for your predictions to come to fruition with great anticipation.

KiM

pre 5 godina

Let’s be honest, we all know that the Serbia-Kosovo contest can easily be resolved by a Northern-Kosovo for Presevo Valley land swap between the two. (Maps, 18 July 2018 01:50)

Let’s be honest 'Maps' the only reason Albanians want Presevo valley is to cut the major road link between Skopje and Nis. So all triaffic traveling through Serbia towards Greece would then need to cross into ‘un-natural Albania’ before entering Macedonia then onto Greece. ‘Ain’t nobody got time for dat’

The best way to resolve the Kosovo issue is for KiM to return to Serbia and to use the model used in Romania for minority rights, which gives its 1.3million Hungarian community in Romania rights to use Hungarian language in public administration in settlements where Hungarians minority exceed 20% of the population.

Sreten

pre 5 godina

It is , actually, reasonable request. Not only them, but Sandjak, too. And Macedonia, Rs in Bosnia...
That was one way to resolve Yugoslavian knot - don't force anybody to live in the state they don't want to live in!
Why would Albanians in Kosovo be forced to live in Serbia, or Krajina Serbs to live in Croatia?
West had another idea - Six republics have to keep their integrity (Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia , Montenegro and Macedonia)
But, that could have worked, too, if they only stick to it...

Who

pre 5 godina

Srbija is playing it smarter and getting "return" for their stubbornness..your "kosova" cannot afford that because "kosova" doesn't belong to you to begin with...
(Wtcherovic, 17 July 2018 18:18)

What? Getting return ? You mean to tell me you are getting Kosova back? Hahahaha please explain why do you even have to go to Brussels to begin with, Kosova don’t belong to us anyway

Tony (a Brit working in Berlin)

pre 5 godina

Well they can also include Berlin as well... there are enough of them here. Its a great pity that they do not contribute anything to German society; apart from crime that is.

Azir

pre 5 godina

China was compensated for the unintentional :) bombing but I stand corrected China 🇨🇳 didn’t declare war on NATO IN DEFENCE OF SERBIA!

Russia was also in agreement to not get involved and risk destruction.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Hey Albos, why don't you also include Texas and California! Maybe you can beat Mexico to the punch. LOLOLOL....
(Chi, 18 July 2018 12:35)

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Hey Albos, why don't you also include Texas and California! Maybe you can beat Mexico to the punch. LOLOLOL....
(Chi, 18 July 2018 12:35)

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 July 2018 14:45

@ tomaslav - Answer Chi's question above, tomaj! That's rude! You cannot answer a question with a question! Now why don't you albo's lay claim to Texas & California as "Albanian' land????
Seems like anything that's not screwed or hammered down will be stolen, I mean "claimed", by you albo's....

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 July 2018 14:45

@ tomaslav - Answer Chi's question above, tomaj! That's rude! You cannot answer a question with a question! Now why don't you albo's lay claim to Texas & California as "Albanian' land????
Seems like anything that's not screwed or hammered down will be stolen, I mean "claimed", by you albo's....
(Watcherovic, 18 July 2018 16:47)

I answer questions the way I choose to answer, but this still doesn't change the fact that you the Serbs came to the Balkans from central Asia, hence the huge linguistic similarities with Ukrainian language. Sorry to bust your myth.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Hey Albos, why don't you also include Texas and California! Maybe you can beat Mexico to the punch. LOLOLOL....
(Chi, 18 July 2018 12:35)

How about you go back to Ukraine where you came from and where locals speak the language so similar to your's - even Vučić figured it out.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 July 2018 14:45

As long as you go back to your beloved Anatolia first Tommy Boy.....

icj1

pre 5 godina

Now why don't you albo's lay claim to Texas & California
(Watcherovic, 18 July 2018 16:47)

Why should they?! Just because you are obsessed with laying claim to parcels of lands of others, that does not mean that everybody is like you, dear!

icj1

pre 5 godina

We are living in the different world now, where even the US president calls the mainstream media in his own country, fake news.
(Zoran, 17 July 2018 18:00)

That's great that finally even the US president can see the fake news spread by mainstream media like Fox News... The most patriotic of Serbs had realised long ago that Fox News is fake news.

BeenFollowingThings

pre 5 godina

Sorry Albos, but you lost Preševo in 2001 - just like Serbians lost Kosovo. Your greed for more ended up NATO itself turning against you. Dear Albos in Preševo and Serbs in Kosovo, if you so much want to belong to Kosovo or Serbia, use your feet and emigrate to the country of your desire.

icj1

pre 5 godina

US paid China over $30 million USD after the CIA directed bombing of the Chinese Embassy.
(Hashim, 17 July 2018 20:46)

Yes, but only after China agreed to pay for the damage to the US Embassy and other US diplomatic facilities in China

Maps

pre 5 godina

Let’s be honest, we all know that the Serbia-Kosovo contest can easily be resolved by a Northern-Kosovo for Presevo Valley land swap between the two. It’s actually the easiest contest to solve in the Balkans. The problem is other more complex geographies that are not as easily resolved, like Bosnia and Macedonia, making the big powers uneasy of creating a precedent. Merging RS with Serbia is difficult because of how choppy the territory is. It’s easier to merge the Croatian side with Croatia. Macedonia is also difficult to split, it would require an Albania-Kosovo-West Macedonia merger in order for the map to look right in the end.

Maps

pre 5 godina

@KiM, if Serbia wants to circumvent Presevo Valley if it became part of Kosovo with another highway wrapping around it, it can do that. It would still be popular since it would avoid 2 border checks. This is about people not wanting to be under your jurisdiction, not roads. If the Hungarians liked being under Romanian rule, good for them. Albanians don't want to be under Serbian rule. You can find the reasons in your past behavior and accept them. It's easier to accept wrongdoing than to ask others to purposefully develop Stockholm syndrome.