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Tuesday, 03.07.2018.

11:41

"Great chance Putin and Trump will solve Kosovo issue"

There is "a great chance" that the solution to the Kosovo problem lies in the meeting between Russian and US presidents Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump.

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icj1

pre 5 godina

Trump can't stand Islam
(Chi, 7 July 2018 18:04)

Yes, Trump cannot stand Islamists like the ones who set on fire the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi. That was exactly my point... Which is why Serbia should be careful about having mobs in Belgrade set the US Embassy on fire.

#MAGA
(icj1, 8 July 2018 01:32)

Do you really think that Trump is even thinking about that?
(Peggy, 9 July 2018 04:05)

That's what our dear friend Chi said... If you don't believe him/her, feel free to sort that out with Chi and let us know the conclusion :)

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Yes, Trump cannot stand Islamists like the ones who set on fire the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi. That was exactly my point... Which is why Serbia should be careful about having mobs in Belgrade set the US Embassy on fire.

#MAGA
(icj1, 8 July 2018 01:32)
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Do you really think that Trump is even thinking about that?
I think they have all moved past that including China which had it's own embassy bombed by the US. Do you think China should be reminding Trump about expecting it to make any impact now?
They have moved on but by the looks of thing Albanians keep living in the hope that this will keep Trump enraged forever.

icj1

pre 5 godina

Image that, the failed Clinton policies from 20+ years ago are undone within a minute. I wouldn't put it past Trump.
(Zoran, 3 July 2018 12:20)

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

Trump can't stand Islam
(Chi, 7 July 2018 18:04)

Yes, Trump cannot stand Islamists like the ones who set on fire the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi. That was exactly my point... Which is why Serbia should be careful about having mobs in Belgrade set the US Embassy on fire.

#MAGA

Chi

pre 5 godina

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

icj1, did you just fall off a turnip truck??? Trump can't stand Islam, so what makes you think he'd support you Albo Narco Terrorists???

JS

pre 5 godina

"$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade
===…==
JS, small compensation for all the damage.
How much damage do you think those bombs dropped made?"

In the billions of dollars.

"Breaking a good chunk of our country away so that they can built their base. How much do you think all that is?"

As far as the public debate in the States, it was never about trying to help Kosovo break away.

"But the worst of all, is all the innocent lives lost while they were bombing Serbia. Who's going to bring those people back?"

We can only find hope by living in the present and looking forward to the future.

"Don't tell us that US is a friend. Maybe one day in the future but for now they are the enemy who had declared a war on a small country.
Do you really think that $30M dollars is enough? I think it's more of an insult."

I appreciate the consistency of your post. I understand your feelings. They are rational and reasonable.

The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

Waltzing Matilda,
The jig is up! Everyone on this site is onto you, as evidenced by their comments. Isn’t it time you changed your overused handle. Putin is going to be very disappointed in you and, therefore, send you back home to herd kangaroos, where you’ll be more useful. Russia’s approaching colapse will require little Vlad to beg for free kangaroo meat to ward off starvation of the masses.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

The handover has begun."
(sj, 3 July 2018 12:42)

Yes, the handover of Serbia has begun. Putin knows Serbia is too far to do anything with. All he really wants is neighboring Crimea. Trump will give it to him if he stays away from Europe. Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia. The final handover of Serbia has begun.
(Genti, 3 July 2018 23:49)
@ gentiaj - dude, stupid comments like above really make you albs look elementary and backward!
Even the Albanians I work with think you're some "cobani" still stuck in Hoxha's past, when the albs thought everyone was trying to escape TO Albania, the "paradise" of the world, lol.

Toooo funny;)

Peggy

pre 5 godina

$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade
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JS, small compensation for all the damage.
How much damage do you think those bombs dropped made?
Breaking a good chunk of our country away so that they can built their base. How much do you think all that is?
But the worst of all, is all the innocent lives lost while they were bombing Serbia. Who's going to bring those people back?
Don't tell us that US is a friend. Maybe one day in the future but for now they are the enemy who had declared a war on a small country.
Do you really think that $30M dollars is enough? I think it's more of an insult.

JS

pre 5 godina

@ sj

"The US is your bro mate not ours."

'Mate' reminds us all that you are Australian not Serbian, and as an Aussie the US is your friend. Sorry to break the bad news, bro. ;)

"Its you that cost the US too much money with little return..."

And what is the big expense? Being well-trained in the Russian troll farm you will want to cite the cost of Bondsteel. But I will head you off to remind you that Bondsteel is a military base. It is not an expense for there being an independent country called Kosovo. So, please, humor me. Where is the big cost at?

"But if Serbs are the enemy why has the US done all this:
US pharmaceutical company Abbott donated a 1.5 million Euro modern biochemical laboratory to Serbia. US Ambassador Kyle Scott was at the new facility with President Alexandar Vucic.
$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade."

Another example of your duplicity. One day the US is the arch enemy of Serbia but a day later -- when you are trying another tactic to make Kosovars look bad -- Serbia is not an enemy at all.

You lack basic moral standards, the most fundamental one being honesty.

Zoran

pre 5 godina

Now what has the US donated to your Kosova again except depleted uranium?
(sj, 4 July 2018 15:19)
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Let's not forget the Bill Clinton statue, someone has to wipe the bird poop off and camp Bondsteel, it's good business for Albanian prostitutes.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Tom L'Orizi, 4 July 2018 12:03)

I haven’t decided anything on the bankruptcy of the US. The figures I have quoted are fact, but how would you know anything anyway.
The US is your bro mate not ours. Its you that needs to worry because he can turn on his friends very quickly and its your Albos that need US protection. Serbs are his enemy. Its you that cost the US too much money with little return – if you don’t understand that let me know.
But if Serbs are the enemy why has the US done all this:
US pharmaceutical company Abbott donated a 1.5 million Euro modern biochemical laboratory to Serbia. US Ambassador Kyle Scott was at the new facility with President Alexandar Vucic.
$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade.

The US donated early flood warning equipment which cost $1 million. US Ambassador Kyle Scott was at the press conference where he made the announcement.

Now what has the US donated to your Kosova again except depleted uranium?

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... It’s all about money boy, and if you think that Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia then your dreaming LOL. Trump’s word’s not mine “America First” does not say “America First with Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia”. He does not care about you guys. For starters I doubt Trump even knows where Kosovo, Croatia BiH are located.
(sj, 4 July 2018 10:01)

Now you have decided to bankrupt the US!!!

Trump doesn't say 'America first with Serbia' either, and knowing Trump's unpredictably with career-irritants like Serbia, he will find time to direct the issue accordingly.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Putin: I'm keeping Crimea and Kosovo will go back to Serbia with less than independence and more than autonomy...
Trump: Oh okay. I'll save half of billion.
Putin: I may pull the same trick in Baltic states and Poland.
Trump: Yes,go ahead...more savings too...
Putin: Wow, you are easier to deal than Obama.
Trump: That is yuuuughe.
(Niko, 4 July 2018 04:09)

In few years time, this will be taught in schools in Serbia as a historical fact because they found it written on this forum which by then will be believed to be a mediaeval Serbian Orthodox Church hovering on the cloud.

sj

pre 5 godina

If don't know the difference between import duties and sanctions then you only deserve to be a burger flipper in McDonald's.
(SJ, 4 July 2018 09:51)

Pumpkin, legally, tariffs are a form of sanctions.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Genti, 3 July 2018 23:49)
The US, as a Nation, has a debt to GDP ratio of 420%. With State, Federal and local Government debt now is $25 trillion.

It’s all about money boy, and if you think that Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia then your dreaming LOL. Trump’s word’s not mine “America First” does not say “America First with Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia”. He does not care about you guys. For starters I doubt Trump even knows where Kosovo, Croatia BiH are located.

SJ

pre 5 godina

@ sj

"Try reading a newspaper since Trump has increased tariffs on EU trade into the US."

If don't know the difference between import duties and sanctions then you only deserve to be a burger flipper in McDonald's.

ari

pre 5 godina

YES RUSSIA WILL WIN SERBS WILL LOSE USA WILL WIN UKRAINA WILL LOSE . ALBANIANS HAVE WON AND KOSOVA IN UN. RUSSIA KEEPS EASTERN UKRAINE SERBIA RECOGNIZE KOSOVA SERBIAN MINORITY GETS GREAT RIGHTS IN KOSOVA. SERBIA PAYS KOSOVA MONEY FOR THE WAR. SERBIA IS EXCEPTED IN EU. RUSSIA IMPROVES RELATIONS WITH THE REST OF BALLKANS COUNTRIES BY DISTANCING ITSELF FROM SERBIA. IF THEY STAY NEUTRAL AND FORCE SERBIA TO MAKE PEACE WITH KOSOVA RUSSIA COULD HAVE BETTER TRADE AND BETTER RELATIONS WITH ALBANIA, KOSOSVA,MONTENEGRO,MAQEDONIA,CROATIA,SLLOVENIA,BOSNJA,TURKISH,HUNGARY , RUMANIA,BULLGARIA ALMOST 50 MILLION PEOPLE SO PUTIN IS GOING TO FORCE SERBIA TO MAKE PEACE.

Niko

pre 5 godina

Putin: I'm keeping Crimea and Kosovo will go back to Serbia with less than independence and more than autonomy...
Trump: Oh okay. I'll save half of billion.
Putin: I may pull the same trick in Baltic states and Poland.
Trump: Yes,go ahead...more savings too...
Putin: Wow, you are easier to deal than Obama.
Trump: That is yuuuughe.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

But don't expect any reversal of policy.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 July 2018 16:35)
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Which policy is that? Keeping Bondsteel there indefinitely? Making sure that Kosovo stays separated from Serbia?
I wonder if any of this is going to be in the interests of US for much longer because Trump isn't interested in NATO or UN for that matter. If he wins the next term he will most likely cut ties because of the cost.
Actually, he doesn't have to reverse recognition of Kosovo. All he has to do is pull out of Kosovo and let it become Europe's problem and we all know Europe has many problems right now.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

What about solving Ukraine crisis first, and Russia starts pulling it's soldiers from Eastern Ukraine?!
(Avni, 3 July 2018 17:35)
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Yeah, you tell them.

sj

pre 5 godina

@ ( sj, 3 July 2018. 15:01)

Could please DOCUMENT where you got the idea Trump put sanctions on EU COUNTRIES.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 July 2018 20:26)

Try reading a newspaper since Trump has increased tariffs on EU trade into the US.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

It is not for them to decide... A pouting nazistic (sic) megalomaniac and a pathetic tsaristic dictator have nothing to decide in the Balkans.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

They will do as told!!

Genti

pre 5 godina

"The handover has begun."
(sj, 3 July 2018 12:42)

Yes, the handover of Serbia has begun. Putin knows Serbia is too far to do anything with. All he really wants is neighboring Crimea. Trump will give it to him if he stays away from Europe. Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia. The final handover of Serbia has begun.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

What about solving Ukraine crisis first, and Russia starts pulling it's soldiers from Eastern Ukraine?!
(Avni, 3 July 2018 17:35)

@ avniaj - what about it??

svabo

pre 5 godina

Chump can't even find Kosovo or Serbia on the map and his entire government consists of the deep state and the military industrial complex who controls this weird piece of excrement of a human being but good luck anyway.

JS

pre 5 godina

"If you watch and listen to Trump it gives you a very good idea what he thinks about the world. He states America first and everything else is last and that includes Kosovo."

True. But that also includes Serbia.

"Trump’s problem is US expenditure. Since it’s a consumer-based economy"

Too much so these days. But, sad to say, still light years ahead of Serbia.

"After announcing the cessation of US exercises in South Korea, Trump said that it costs a lot of money to run them and the US cannot afford to maintain that practise."

Trump said it cost a lot of money; sj says that the US cannot afford them.

"Now Putin needs to keep Serbia in its sphere of influence. It needs to have a foot hole in the Balkans. I’d say two of the main topics to be covered is Syria and US withdrawal from there and what to do with Kosovo."

Realistic possibility.

"Forget about Crimea. That’s a done deal and the US is only going through the motions."

It would start a major war and Crimea remaining part of Ukraine isn't worth the cost of war.

"If Trump does not give a fig about the EU, South America, Africa etc he des not give a second thought to Kosovo. Since Kosovo was only taken to “stop” the Russian influence, Trump would not lose sleep about handing it over."

Trump has been known to make unorthodox decisions.

"The handover has begun."

Exaggeration, as usual.

JS

pre 5 godina

@ sj

"Serbs are not ignorant, its just that you are naïve if you think that Crimea is a problem. Big powers do what they like and small countries listen and obey."

And that applies to Russia in Crimea. So you and your beloved Russia have lost the moral high ground, in case you hadn't already noticed.

"Those sanctions against Russian a joke. They are not hurting Russia at all."

Exaggeration, as usual.

"Kosovo is not a closed issue since Trump is prepared to dump anyone and everything to put America first. You think that he will be concerned about Kosovo that is a financial pit? Nope."

But Kosovo being an independent country isn't costing America anything. So why would Trump change the status quo?

"The EU will flip flop as power structure changes. The EU countries are now closer to Russia because of Trumps sanctions on EU trade than ever."

An overactive imagination.

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Ya Serbs like America and Russia care about solving the Kosovo issue. Putin likes it the way it is so he can have a dastardly criminal excuse for invading Ukraine. Then again Serbs are not the sharpest tools. Adrian Burka you have to stop hanging around Serbs your sliding in to meanest. You used to be a such a good boy now yore into serious decline. I read that Romania is in economical stagnation a cesspools of debts. I hate to brake it to you but your fixation on your. con·sump·tion
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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Yepp, those news has been around for a while but the albanians here on this forum think they know it all.
I am sure this is excellent news for Serbia.
As someone have mentioned, Trump is serious to save money and Bondsteel cost around half a billion dollars annually including everything.
There has been serious discussions to move the drone relay systems to Turkey (why Bondsteel was built, if someone wonders). That would mean that the US have used the K albanians as ”useful idiots” enough, and leave them alone. Then add the Special Chambers that will start arrest the top albanian leaders. Whats left ? Well, you always have the keyboard warriors here. 👍
Sad to see that the albanians doesnt undeRstand the political / diplomatic game.
(Staff, 3 July 2018 17:02)

G man, stroke of genius!!!

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 5 godina

It is not for them to decide... A pouting nazistic (sic) megalomaniac and a pathetic tsaristic dictator have nothing to decide in the Balkans.

Staff

pre 5 godina

Yepp, those news has been around for a while but the albanians here on this forum think they know it all.
I am sure this is excellent news for Serbia.
As someone have mentioned, Trump is serious to save money and Bondsteel cost around half a billion dollars annually including everything.
There has been serious discussions to move the drone relay systems to Turkey (why Bondsteel was built, if someone wonders). That would mean that the US have used the K albanians as ”useful idiots” enough, and leave them alone. Then add the Special Chambers that will start arrest the top albanian leaders. Whats left ? Well, you always have the keyboard warriors here. 👍
Sad to see that the albanians doesnt undeRstand the political / diplomatic game.

Sreten

pre 5 godina

Ordinary Albanian,
I agree with you.
"The only problem remains how this event might efect the nearby countries.."
And it should. If this was done at the very beginning we would have avoid all those wars. All the problems came from treating some differently then others

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 5 godina

I really wouldn't put much hope in that. Trump couldn't care less about Kosovo, and Putin is happy to leave it the frozen conflict it is. The best case scenario is that Trump appears more open to an actual compromise because he's largely checked out of Europe beyond reminding NATO members to pay their dues. But don't expect any reversal of policy.

sj

pre 5 godina

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

sj

pre 5 godina

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

Not the old tail of US airpower killing hundreds of Russian soldiers LOL. What the US should have targeted was the Russian military bases in Syria. Alas as they say the proof is in the eating of the pudding and the US did not even taste that delight. If you haven't got the message it was good spin for local consumption.

Now its obvious why you post those statements that make no sense. You have no knowledge at all.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Joni, 3 July 2018 13:38)
Serbs are not ignorant, its just that you are naïve if you think that Crimea is a problem. Big powers do what they like and small countries listen and obey. This is not 1999 but 2018 – you guys are stuck in 1999.
Trump has shown he is a realist who understands the US situation and that its heading for a financial cliff.
Those sanctions against Russian a joke. They are not hurting Russia at all.
Kosovo is not a closed issue since Trump is prepared to dump anyone and everything to put America first. You think that he will be concerned about Kosovo that is a financial pit? Nope.
The EU will flip flop as power structure changes. The EU countries are now closer to Russia because of Trumps sanctions on EU trade than ever.

adrian_bucharest_romania

pre 5 godina

Keep on trucking ! while Serbs are focused on Kosovo ! keep your economy growing ! link eurostat ! http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/9034255/4-03072018-AP-EN.pdf/99c581e6-3946-45d4-8c71-2fdd753eb3a2 after in first quater 2018 when our gdp had grow only 4,2% retail sales in march were +4,3% and after first 5 months they were +7,1% most big from European Union

In 2017 retail sales had grow with 10,7% we need as in 2017 for grow again with 7% .

July => big indexactions in pensions and salaries followed by big retail sales

KEEP ON TRUCKIN !

in 2017 at a moment after july indexactions the economy was +8,8% in 3 quater , we have indexactions in july not in january as in SARBIJA

in 2017 after first 6 months we had grow +5,7% and final +7% is vital after first 6 months 2018 to be at least 5% for repeat 2017

Lenard you have consumption 61% of Eu we have 68% of Eu and you even not develop ! + you in july you have same money here everything grow with at least 10%

LENARD if we had grow with 7,1% in retail sales at inflation almost +6% imagine what happen from now after people get more money and inflation is excepted to go down at +3%

Well let`s talk on your USTASHA LANGUAGE => Lenard period july-december 2018 we CUT YOUR THROAT as gdp grow

icj1

pre 5 godina

Image that, the failed Clinton policies from 20+ years ago are undone within a minute. I wouldn't put it past Trump.
(Zoran, 3 July 2018 12:20)

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA

Joni

pre 5 godina

Some Serbs are really ignorants! Russia still has to resolve Crimea problem and they think Kosovo is their priority..

No sanctions over Kosovo for Russia but over Crimea.
If Russia will talk over Kosovo and Serbia then US will talk over Ukraine and Crimea...
I have to remind that there are sanctions made by US...
There are problems to talk over Middle East...

But, ok Putin will talk over Kosovo.., which is a 'closed' issue for US.

Kosovo is an EU "affair"! Especially right NOW.. Remember!

sj

pre 5 godina

If you watch and listen to Trump it gives you a very good idea what he thinks about the world. He states America first and everything else is last and that includes Kosovo.
Trump’s problem is US expenditure. Since it’s a consumer-based economy, the US produces little but imports about 80%.
After announcing the cessation of US exercises in South Korea, Trump said that it costs a lot of money to run them and the US cannot afford to maintain that practise.
Now Putin needs to keep Serbia in its sphere of influence. It needs to have a foot hole in the Balkans. I’d say two of the main topics to be covered is Syria and US withdrawal from there and what to do with Kosovo.
Forget about Crimea. That’s a done deal and the US is only going through the motions.
If Trump does not give a fig about the EU, South America, Africa etc he des not give a second thought to Kosovo. Since Kosovo was only taken to “stop” the Russian influence, Trump would not lose sleep about handing it over.
The US cannot maintain to have military basses all over the world due to its financial position. Trumps is too well aware of this fact and occasionally even states this in his speeches.
The handover has begun.

sj

pre 5 godina

If you watch and listen to Trump it gives you a very good idea what he thinks about the world. He states America first and everything else is last and that includes Kosovo.
Trump’s problem is US expenditure. Since it’s a consumer-based economy, the US produces little but imports about 80%.
After announcing the cessation of US exercises in South Korea, Trump said that it costs a lot of money to run them and the US cannot afford to maintain that practise.
Now Putin needs to keep Serbia in its sphere of influence. It needs to have a foot hole in the Balkans. I’d say two of the main topics to be covered is Syria and US withdrawal from there and what to do with Kosovo.
Forget about Crimea. That’s a done deal and the US is only going through the motions.
If Trump does not give a fig about the EU, South America, Africa etc he des not give a second thought to Kosovo. Since Kosovo was only taken to “stop” the Russian influence, Trump would not lose sleep about handing it over.
The US cannot maintain to have military basses all over the world due to its financial position. Trumps is too well aware of this fact and occasionally even states this in his speeches.
The handover has begun.

Ordinary Albanian

pre 5 godina

Its not a rocket science now! EU is not capable anymore to fulfill its multiethnic state dream and there plans wont work. So only one solution remains now and that is to put a map on the table and to divide it. Who better than Russia and US knows how to mess a map by dividing countries.
Its a known fact now that Serbs like the idea to cut the North from Kosova. Albanians will not like the idea but they wont have much of a say in it. The only problem remains how this event might efect the nearby countries as there are a lot of regions that will want same treatments from Bosnia, Fyrom, Serbia etc

Raisin Scone

pre 5 godina

That would make a lot of sense. These two are more powerful than the EU. Plus, you'd have someone with genuine interest in Serbia, so there wouldn't be a one-sided solution.

Staff

pre 5 godina

Yepp, those news has been around for a while but the albanians here on this forum think they know it all.
I am sure this is excellent news for Serbia.
As someone have mentioned, Trump is serious to save money and Bondsteel cost around half a billion dollars annually including everything.
There has been serious discussions to move the drone relay systems to Turkey (why Bondsteel was built, if someone wonders). That would mean that the US have used the K albanians as ”useful idiots” enough, and leave them alone. Then add the Special Chambers that will start arrest the top albanian leaders. Whats left ? Well, you always have the keyboard warriors here. 👍
Sad to see that the albanians doesnt undeRstand the political / diplomatic game.

Raisin Scone

pre 5 godina

That would make a lot of sense. These two are more powerful than the EU. Plus, you'd have someone with genuine interest in Serbia, so there wouldn't be a one-sided solution.

sj

pre 5 godina

If you watch and listen to Trump it gives you a very good idea what he thinks about the world. He states America first and everything else is last and that includes Kosovo.
Trump’s problem is US expenditure. Since it’s a consumer-based economy, the US produces little but imports about 80%.
After announcing the cessation of US exercises in South Korea, Trump said that it costs a lot of money to run them and the US cannot afford to maintain that practise.
Now Putin needs to keep Serbia in its sphere of influence. It needs to have a foot hole in the Balkans. I’d say two of the main topics to be covered is Syria and US withdrawal from there and what to do with Kosovo.
Forget about Crimea. That’s a done deal and the US is only going through the motions.
If Trump does not give a fig about the EU, South America, Africa etc he des not give a second thought to Kosovo. Since Kosovo was only taken to “stop” the Russian influence, Trump would not lose sleep about handing it over.
The US cannot maintain to have military basses all over the world due to its financial position. Trumps is too well aware of this fact and occasionally even states this in his speeches.
The handover has begun.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Putin: I'm keeping Crimea and Kosovo will go back to Serbia with less than independence and more than autonomy...
Trump: Oh okay. I'll save half of billion.
Putin: I may pull the same trick in Baltic states and Poland.
Trump: Yes,go ahead...more savings too...
Putin: Wow, you are easier to deal than Obama.
Trump: That is yuuuughe.
(Niko, 4 July 2018 04:09)

In few years time, this will be taught in schools in Serbia as a historical fact because they found it written on this forum which by then will be believed to be a mediaeval Serbian Orthodox Church hovering on the cloud.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Joni, 3 July 2018 13:38)
Serbs are not ignorant, its just that you are naïve if you think that Crimea is a problem. Big powers do what they like and small countries listen and obey. This is not 1999 but 2018 – you guys are stuck in 1999.
Trump has shown he is a realist who understands the US situation and that its heading for a financial cliff.
Those sanctions against Russian a joke. They are not hurting Russia at all.
Kosovo is not a closed issue since Trump is prepared to dump anyone and everything to put America first. You think that he will be concerned about Kosovo that is a financial pit? Nope.
The EU will flip flop as power structure changes. The EU countries are now closer to Russia because of Trumps sanctions on EU trade than ever.

Joni

pre 5 godina

Some Serbs are really ignorants! Russia still has to resolve Crimea problem and they think Kosovo is their priority..

No sanctions over Kosovo for Russia but over Crimea.
If Russia will talk over Kosovo and Serbia then US will talk over Ukraine and Crimea...
I have to remind that there are sanctions made by US...
There are problems to talk over Middle East...

But, ok Putin will talk over Kosovo.., which is a 'closed' issue for US.

Kosovo is an EU "affair"! Especially right NOW.. Remember!

sj

pre 5 godina

If you watch and listen to Trump it gives you a very good idea what he thinks about the world. He states America first and everything else is last and that includes Kosovo.
Trump’s problem is US expenditure. Since it’s a consumer-based economy, the US produces little but imports about 80%.
After announcing the cessation of US exercises in South Korea, Trump said that it costs a lot of money to run them and the US cannot afford to maintain that practise.
Now Putin needs to keep Serbia in its sphere of influence. It needs to have a foot hole in the Balkans. I’d say two of the main topics to be covered is Syria and US withdrawal from there and what to do with Kosovo.
Forget about Crimea. That’s a done deal and the US is only going through the motions.
If Trump does not give a fig about the EU, South America, Africa etc he des not give a second thought to Kosovo. Since Kosovo was only taken to “stop” the Russian influence, Trump would not lose sleep about handing it over.
The US cannot maintain to have military basses all over the world due to its financial position. Trumps is too well aware of this fact and occasionally even states this in his speeches.
The handover has begun.

Ordinary Albanian

pre 5 godina

Its not a rocket science now! EU is not capable anymore to fulfill its multiethnic state dream and there plans wont work. So only one solution remains now and that is to put a map on the table and to divide it. Who better than Russia and US knows how to mess a map by dividing countries.
Its a known fact now that Serbs like the idea to cut the North from Kosova. Albanians will not like the idea but they wont have much of a say in it. The only problem remains how this event might efect the nearby countries as there are a lot of regions that will want same treatments from Bosnia, Fyrom, Serbia etc

ari

pre 5 godina

YES RUSSIA WILL WIN SERBS WILL LOSE USA WILL WIN UKRAINA WILL LOSE . ALBANIANS HAVE WON AND KOSOVA IN UN. RUSSIA KEEPS EASTERN UKRAINE SERBIA RECOGNIZE KOSOVA SERBIAN MINORITY GETS GREAT RIGHTS IN KOSOVA. SERBIA PAYS KOSOVA MONEY FOR THE WAR. SERBIA IS EXCEPTED IN EU. RUSSIA IMPROVES RELATIONS WITH THE REST OF BALLKANS COUNTRIES BY DISTANCING ITSELF FROM SERBIA. IF THEY STAY NEUTRAL AND FORCE SERBIA TO MAKE PEACE WITH KOSOVA RUSSIA COULD HAVE BETTER TRADE AND BETTER RELATIONS WITH ALBANIA, KOSOSVA,MONTENEGRO,MAQEDONIA,CROATIA,SLLOVENIA,BOSNJA,TURKISH,HUNGARY , RUMANIA,BULLGARIA ALMOST 50 MILLION PEOPLE SO PUTIN IS GOING TO FORCE SERBIA TO MAKE PEACE.

icj1

pre 5 godina

Image that, the failed Clinton policies from 20+ years ago are undone within a minute. I wouldn't put it past Trump.
(Zoran, 3 July 2018 12:20)

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA

sj

pre 5 godina

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

Not the old tail of US airpower killing hundreds of Russian soldiers LOL. What the US should have targeted was the Russian military bases in Syria. Alas as they say the proof is in the eating of the pudding and the US did not even taste that delight. If you haven't got the message it was good spin for local consumption.

Now its obvious why you post those statements that make no sense. You have no knowledge at all.

Sreten

pre 5 godina

Ordinary Albanian,
I agree with you.
"The only problem remains how this event might efect the nearby countries.."
And it should. If this was done at the very beginning we would have avoid all those wars. All the problems came from treating some differently then others

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... It’s all about money boy, and if you think that Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia then your dreaming LOL. Trump’s word’s not mine “America First” does not say “America First with Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia”. He does not care about you guys. For starters I doubt Trump even knows where Kosovo, Croatia BiH are located.
(sj, 4 July 2018 10:01)

Now you have decided to bankrupt the US!!!

Trump doesn't say 'America first with Serbia' either, and knowing Trump's unpredictably with career-irritants like Serbia, he will find time to direct the issue accordingly.

JS

pre 5 godina

@ sj

"The US is your bro mate not ours."

'Mate' reminds us all that you are Australian not Serbian, and as an Aussie the US is your friend. Sorry to break the bad news, bro. ;)

"Its you that cost the US too much money with little return..."

And what is the big expense? Being well-trained in the Russian troll farm you will want to cite the cost of Bondsteel. But I will head you off to remind you that Bondsteel is a military base. It is not an expense for there being an independent country called Kosovo. So, please, humor me. Where is the big cost at?

"But if Serbs are the enemy why has the US done all this:
US pharmaceutical company Abbott donated a 1.5 million Euro modern biochemical laboratory to Serbia. US Ambassador Kyle Scott was at the new facility with President Alexandar Vucic.
$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade."

Another example of your duplicity. One day the US is the arch enemy of Serbia but a day later -- when you are trying another tactic to make Kosovars look bad -- Serbia is not an enemy at all.

You lack basic moral standards, the most fundamental one being honesty.

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Ya Serbs like America and Russia care about solving the Kosovo issue. Putin likes it the way it is so he can have a dastardly criminal excuse for invading Ukraine. Then again Serbs are not the sharpest tools. Adrian Burka you have to stop hanging around Serbs your sliding in to meanest. You used to be a such a good boy now yore into serious decline. I read that Romania is in economical stagnation a cesspools of debts. I hate to brake it to you but your fixation on your. con·sump·tion
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adrian_bucharest_romania

pre 5 godina

Keep on trucking ! while Serbs are focused on Kosovo ! keep your economy growing ! link eurostat ! http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/9034255/4-03072018-AP-EN.pdf/99c581e6-3946-45d4-8c71-2fdd753eb3a2 after in first quater 2018 when our gdp had grow only 4,2% retail sales in march were +4,3% and after first 5 months they were +7,1% most big from European Union

In 2017 retail sales had grow with 10,7% we need as in 2017 for grow again with 7% .

July => big indexactions in pensions and salaries followed by big retail sales

KEEP ON TRUCKIN !

in 2017 at a moment after july indexactions the economy was +8,8% in 3 quater , we have indexactions in july not in january as in SARBIJA

in 2017 after first 6 months we had grow +5,7% and final +7% is vital after first 6 months 2018 to be at least 5% for repeat 2017

Lenard you have consumption 61% of Eu we have 68% of Eu and you even not develop ! + you in july you have same money here everything grow with at least 10%

LENARD if we had grow with 7,1% in retail sales at inflation almost +6% imagine what happen from now after people get more money and inflation is excepted to go down at +3%

Well let`s talk on your USTASHA LANGUAGE => Lenard period july-december 2018 we CUT YOUR THROAT as gdp grow

Zoran

pre 5 godina

Now what has the US donated to your Kosova again except depleted uranium?
(sj, 4 July 2018 15:19)
--
Let's not forget the Bill Clinton statue, someone has to wipe the bird poop off and camp Bondsteel, it's good business for Albanian prostitutes.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 5 godina

I really wouldn't put much hope in that. Trump couldn't care less about Kosovo, and Putin is happy to leave it the frozen conflict it is. The best case scenario is that Trump appears more open to an actual compromise because he's largely checked out of Europe beyond reminding NATO members to pay their dues. But don't expect any reversal of policy.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Yepp, those news has been around for a while but the albanians here on this forum think they know it all.
I am sure this is excellent news for Serbia.
As someone have mentioned, Trump is serious to save money and Bondsteel cost around half a billion dollars annually including everything.
There has been serious discussions to move the drone relay systems to Turkey (why Bondsteel was built, if someone wonders). That would mean that the US have used the K albanians as ”useful idiots” enough, and leave them alone. Then add the Special Chambers that will start arrest the top albanian leaders. Whats left ? Well, you always have the keyboard warriors here. 👍
Sad to see that the albanians doesnt undeRstand the political / diplomatic game.
(Staff, 3 July 2018 17:02)

G man, stroke of genius!!!

Genti

pre 5 godina

"The handover has begun."
(sj, 3 July 2018 12:42)

Yes, the handover of Serbia has begun. Putin knows Serbia is too far to do anything with. All he really wants is neighboring Crimea. Trump will give it to him if he stays away from Europe. Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia. The final handover of Serbia has begun.

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 5 godina

It is not for them to decide... A pouting nazistic (sic) megalomaniac and a pathetic tsaristic dictator have nothing to decide in the Balkans.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

But don't expect any reversal of policy.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 July 2018 16:35)
=========================
Which policy is that? Keeping Bondsteel there indefinitely? Making sure that Kosovo stays separated from Serbia?
I wonder if any of this is going to be in the interests of US for much longer because Trump isn't interested in NATO or UN for that matter. If he wins the next term he will most likely cut ties because of the cost.
Actually, he doesn't have to reverse recognition of Kosovo. All he has to do is pull out of Kosovo and let it become Europe's problem and we all know Europe has many problems right now.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Genti, 3 July 2018 23:49)
The US, as a Nation, has a debt to GDP ratio of 420%. With State, Federal and local Government debt now is $25 trillion.

It’s all about money boy, and if you think that Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia then your dreaming LOL. Trump’s word’s not mine “America First” does not say “America First with Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia”. He does not care about you guys. For starters I doubt Trump even knows where Kosovo, Croatia BiH are located.

sj

pre 5 godina

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

JS

pre 5 godina

"If you watch and listen to Trump it gives you a very good idea what he thinks about the world. He states America first and everything else is last and that includes Kosovo."

True. But that also includes Serbia.

"Trump’s problem is US expenditure. Since it’s a consumer-based economy"

Too much so these days. But, sad to say, still light years ahead of Serbia.

"After announcing the cessation of US exercises in South Korea, Trump said that it costs a lot of money to run them and the US cannot afford to maintain that practise."

Trump said it cost a lot of money; sj says that the US cannot afford them.

"Now Putin needs to keep Serbia in its sphere of influence. It needs to have a foot hole in the Balkans. I’d say two of the main topics to be covered is Syria and US withdrawal from there and what to do with Kosovo."

Realistic possibility.

"Forget about Crimea. That’s a done deal and the US is only going through the motions."

It would start a major war and Crimea remaining part of Ukraine isn't worth the cost of war.

"If Trump does not give a fig about the EU, South America, Africa etc he des not give a second thought to Kosovo. Since Kosovo was only taken to “stop” the Russian influence, Trump would not lose sleep about handing it over."

Trump has been known to make unorthodox decisions.

"The handover has begun."

Exaggeration, as usual.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

It is not for them to decide... A pouting nazistic (sic) megalomaniac and a pathetic tsaristic dictator have nothing to decide in the Balkans.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

They will do as told!!

sj

pre 5 godina

If don't know the difference between import duties and sanctions then you only deserve to be a burger flipper in McDonald's.
(SJ, 4 July 2018 09:51)

Pumpkin, legally, tariffs are a form of sanctions.

The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

Waltzing Matilda,
The jig is up! Everyone on this site is onto you, as evidenced by their comments. Isn’t it time you changed your overused handle. Putin is going to be very disappointed in you and, therefore, send you back home to herd kangaroos, where you’ll be more useful. Russia’s approaching colapse will require little Vlad to beg for free kangaroo meat to ward off starvation of the masses.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

What about solving Ukraine crisis first, and Russia starts pulling it's soldiers from Eastern Ukraine?!
(Avni, 3 July 2018 17:35)

@ avniaj - what about it??

Peggy

pre 5 godina

What about solving Ukraine crisis first, and Russia starts pulling it's soldiers from Eastern Ukraine?!
(Avni, 3 July 2018 17:35)
================
Yeah, you tell them.

SJ

pre 5 godina

@ sj

"Try reading a newspaper since Trump has increased tariffs on EU trade into the US."

If don't know the difference between import duties and sanctions then you only deserve to be a burger flipper in McDonald's.

Niko

pre 5 godina

Putin: I'm keeping Crimea and Kosovo will go back to Serbia with less than independence and more than autonomy...
Trump: Oh okay. I'll save half of billion.
Putin: I may pull the same trick in Baltic states and Poland.
Trump: Yes,go ahead...more savings too...
Putin: Wow, you are easier to deal than Obama.
Trump: That is yuuuughe.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Tom L'Orizi, 4 July 2018 12:03)

I haven’t decided anything on the bankruptcy of the US. The figures I have quoted are fact, but how would you know anything anyway.
The US is your bro mate not ours. Its you that needs to worry because he can turn on his friends very quickly and its your Albos that need US protection. Serbs are his enemy. Its you that cost the US too much money with little return – if you don’t understand that let me know.
But if Serbs are the enemy why has the US done all this:
US pharmaceutical company Abbott donated a 1.5 million Euro modern biochemical laboratory to Serbia. US Ambassador Kyle Scott was at the new facility with President Alexandar Vucic.
$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade.

The US donated early flood warning equipment which cost $1 million. US Ambassador Kyle Scott was at the press conference where he made the announcement.

Now what has the US donated to your Kosova again except depleted uranium?

Peggy

pre 5 godina

$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade
=======================
JS, small compensation for all the damage.
How much damage do you think those bombs dropped made?
Breaking a good chunk of our country away so that they can built their base. How much do you think all that is?
But the worst of all, is all the innocent lives lost while they were bombing Serbia. Who's going to bring those people back?
Don't tell us that US is a friend. Maybe one day in the future but for now they are the enemy who had declared a war on a small country.
Do you really think that $30M dollars is enough? I think it's more of an insult.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

The handover has begun."
(sj, 3 July 2018 12:42)

Yes, the handover of Serbia has begun. Putin knows Serbia is too far to do anything with. All he really wants is neighboring Crimea. Trump will give it to him if he stays away from Europe. Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia. The final handover of Serbia has begun.
(Genti, 3 July 2018 23:49)
@ gentiaj - dude, stupid comments like above really make you albs look elementary and backward!
Even the Albanians I work with think you're some "cobani" still stuck in Hoxha's past, when the albs thought everyone was trying to escape TO Albania, the "paradise" of the world, lol.

Toooo funny;)

icj1

pre 5 godina

Image that, the failed Clinton policies from 20+ years ago are undone within a minute. I wouldn't put it past Trump.
(Zoran, 3 July 2018 12:20)

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

Trump can't stand Islam
(Chi, 7 July 2018 18:04)

Yes, Trump cannot stand Islamists like the ones who set on fire the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi. That was exactly my point... Which is why Serbia should be careful about having mobs in Belgrade set the US Embassy on fire.

#MAGA

JS

pre 5 godina

@ sj

"Serbs are not ignorant, its just that you are naïve if you think that Crimea is a problem. Big powers do what they like and small countries listen and obey."

And that applies to Russia in Crimea. So you and your beloved Russia have lost the moral high ground, in case you hadn't already noticed.

"Those sanctions against Russian a joke. They are not hurting Russia at all."

Exaggeration, as usual.

"Kosovo is not a closed issue since Trump is prepared to dump anyone and everything to put America first. You think that he will be concerned about Kosovo that is a financial pit? Nope."

But Kosovo being an independent country isn't costing America anything. So why would Trump change the status quo?

"The EU will flip flop as power structure changes. The EU countries are now closer to Russia because of Trumps sanctions on EU trade than ever."

An overactive imagination.

sj

pre 5 godina

@ ( sj, 3 July 2018. 15:01)

Could please DOCUMENT where you got the idea Trump put sanctions on EU COUNTRIES.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 July 2018 20:26)

Try reading a newspaper since Trump has increased tariffs on EU trade into the US.

Chi

pre 5 godina

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

icj1, did you just fall off a turnip truck??? Trump can't stand Islam, so what makes you think he'd support you Albo Narco Terrorists???

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Yes, Trump cannot stand Islamists like the ones who set on fire the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi. That was exactly my point... Which is why Serbia should be careful about having mobs in Belgrade set the US Embassy on fire.

#MAGA
(icj1, 8 July 2018 01:32)
========================
Do you really think that Trump is even thinking about that?
I think they have all moved past that including China which had it's own embassy bombed by the US. Do you think China should be reminding Trump about expecting it to make any impact now?
They have moved on but by the looks of thing Albanians keep living in the hope that this will keep Trump enraged forever.

svabo

pre 5 godina

Chump can't even find Kosovo or Serbia on the map and his entire government consists of the deep state and the military industrial complex who controls this weird piece of excrement of a human being but good luck anyway.

JS

pre 5 godina

"$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade
===…==
JS, small compensation for all the damage.
How much damage do you think those bombs dropped made?"

In the billions of dollars.

"Breaking a good chunk of our country away so that they can built their base. How much do you think all that is?"

As far as the public debate in the States, it was never about trying to help Kosovo break away.

"But the worst of all, is all the innocent lives lost while they were bombing Serbia. Who's going to bring those people back?"

We can only find hope by living in the present and looking forward to the future.

"Don't tell us that US is a friend. Maybe one day in the future but for now they are the enemy who had declared a war on a small country.
Do you really think that $30M dollars is enough? I think it's more of an insult."

I appreciate the consistency of your post. I understand your feelings. They are rational and reasonable.

icj1

pre 5 godina

Trump can't stand Islam
(Chi, 7 July 2018 18:04)

Yes, Trump cannot stand Islamists like the ones who set on fire the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi. That was exactly my point... Which is why Serbia should be careful about having mobs in Belgrade set the US Embassy on fire.

#MAGA
(icj1, 8 July 2018 01:32)

Do you really think that Trump is even thinking about that?
(Peggy, 9 July 2018 04:05)

That's what our dear friend Chi said... If you don't believe him/her, feel free to sort that out with Chi and let us know the conclusion :)

Staff

pre 5 godina

Yepp, those news has been around for a while but the albanians here on this forum think they know it all.
I am sure this is excellent news for Serbia.
As someone have mentioned, Trump is serious to save money and Bondsteel cost around half a billion dollars annually including everything.
There has been serious discussions to move the drone relay systems to Turkey (why Bondsteel was built, if someone wonders). That would mean that the US have used the K albanians as ”useful idiots” enough, and leave them alone. Then add the Special Chambers that will start arrest the top albanian leaders. Whats left ? Well, you always have the keyboard warriors here. 👍
Sad to see that the albanians doesnt undeRstand the political / diplomatic game.

Ordinary Albanian

pre 5 godina

Its not a rocket science now! EU is not capable anymore to fulfill its multiethnic state dream and there plans wont work. So only one solution remains now and that is to put a map on the table and to divide it. Who better than Russia and US knows how to mess a map by dividing countries.
Its a known fact now that Serbs like the idea to cut the North from Kosova. Albanians will not like the idea but they wont have much of a say in it. The only problem remains how this event might efect the nearby countries as there are a lot of regions that will want same treatments from Bosnia, Fyrom, Serbia etc

sj

pre 5 godina

If you watch and listen to Trump it gives you a very good idea what he thinks about the world. He states America first and everything else is last and that includes Kosovo.
Trump’s problem is US expenditure. Since it’s a consumer-based economy, the US produces little but imports about 80%.
After announcing the cessation of US exercises in South Korea, Trump said that it costs a lot of money to run them and the US cannot afford to maintain that practise.
Now Putin needs to keep Serbia in its sphere of influence. It needs to have a foot hole in the Balkans. I’d say two of the main topics to be covered is Syria and US withdrawal from there and what to do with Kosovo.
Forget about Crimea. That’s a done deal and the US is only going through the motions.
If Trump does not give a fig about the EU, South America, Africa etc he des not give a second thought to Kosovo. Since Kosovo was only taken to “stop” the Russian influence, Trump would not lose sleep about handing it over.
The US cannot maintain to have military basses all over the world due to its financial position. Trumps is too well aware of this fact and occasionally even states this in his speeches.
The handover has begun.

sj

pre 5 godina

If you watch and listen to Trump it gives you a very good idea what he thinks about the world. He states America first and everything else is last and that includes Kosovo.
Trump’s problem is US expenditure. Since it’s a consumer-based economy, the US produces little but imports about 80%.
After announcing the cessation of US exercises in South Korea, Trump said that it costs a lot of money to run them and the US cannot afford to maintain that practise.
Now Putin needs to keep Serbia in its sphere of influence. It needs to have a foot hole in the Balkans. I’d say two of the main topics to be covered is Syria and US withdrawal from there and what to do with Kosovo.
Forget about Crimea. That’s a done deal and the US is only going through the motions.
If Trump does not give a fig about the EU, South America, Africa etc he des not give a second thought to Kosovo. Since Kosovo was only taken to “stop” the Russian influence, Trump would not lose sleep about handing it over.
The US cannot maintain to have military basses all over the world due to its financial position. Trumps is too well aware of this fact and occasionally even states this in his speeches.
The handover has begun.

Joni

pre 5 godina

Some Serbs are really ignorants! Russia still has to resolve Crimea problem and they think Kosovo is their priority..

No sanctions over Kosovo for Russia but over Crimea.
If Russia will talk over Kosovo and Serbia then US will talk over Ukraine and Crimea...
I have to remind that there are sanctions made by US...
There are problems to talk over Middle East...

But, ok Putin will talk over Kosovo.., which is a 'closed' issue for US.

Kosovo is an EU "affair"! Especially right NOW.. Remember!

adrian_bucharest_romania

pre 5 godina

Keep on trucking ! while Serbs are focused on Kosovo ! keep your economy growing ! link eurostat ! http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/9034255/4-03072018-AP-EN.pdf/99c581e6-3946-45d4-8c71-2fdd753eb3a2 after in first quater 2018 when our gdp had grow only 4,2% retail sales in march were +4,3% and after first 5 months they were +7,1% most big from European Union

In 2017 retail sales had grow with 10,7% we need as in 2017 for grow again with 7% .

July => big indexactions in pensions and salaries followed by big retail sales

KEEP ON TRUCKIN !

in 2017 at a moment after july indexactions the economy was +8,8% in 3 quater , we have indexactions in july not in january as in SARBIJA

in 2017 after first 6 months we had grow +5,7% and final +7% is vital after first 6 months 2018 to be at least 5% for repeat 2017

Lenard you have consumption 61% of Eu we have 68% of Eu and you even not develop ! + you in july you have same money here everything grow with at least 10%

LENARD if we had grow with 7,1% in retail sales at inflation almost +6% imagine what happen from now after people get more money and inflation is excepted to go down at +3%

Well let`s talk on your USTASHA LANGUAGE => Lenard period july-december 2018 we CUT YOUR THROAT as gdp grow

sj

pre 5 godina

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

sj

pre 5 godina

(Joni, 3 July 2018 13:38)
Serbs are not ignorant, its just that you are naïve if you think that Crimea is a problem. Big powers do what they like and small countries listen and obey. This is not 1999 but 2018 – you guys are stuck in 1999.
Trump has shown he is a realist who understands the US situation and that its heading for a financial cliff.
Those sanctions against Russian a joke. They are not hurting Russia at all.
Kosovo is not a closed issue since Trump is prepared to dump anyone and everything to put America first. You think that he will be concerned about Kosovo that is a financial pit? Nope.
The EU will flip flop as power structure changes. The EU countries are now closer to Russia because of Trumps sanctions on EU trade than ever.

sj

pre 5 godina

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

Not the old tail of US airpower killing hundreds of Russian soldiers LOL. What the US should have targeted was the Russian military bases in Syria. Alas as they say the proof is in the eating of the pudding and the US did not even taste that delight. If you haven't got the message it was good spin for local consumption.

Now its obvious why you post those statements that make no sense. You have no knowledge at all.

Raisin Scone

pre 5 godina

That would make a lot of sense. These two are more powerful than the EU. Plus, you'd have someone with genuine interest in Serbia, so there wouldn't be a one-sided solution.

icj1

pre 5 godina

Image that, the failed Clinton policies from 20+ years ago are undone within a minute. I wouldn't put it past Trump.
(Zoran, 3 July 2018 12:20)

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Yepp, those news has been around for a while but the albanians here on this forum think they know it all.
I am sure this is excellent news for Serbia.
As someone have mentioned, Trump is serious to save money and Bondsteel cost around half a billion dollars annually including everything.
There has been serious discussions to move the drone relay systems to Turkey (why Bondsteel was built, if someone wonders). That would mean that the US have used the K albanians as ”useful idiots” enough, and leave them alone. Then add the Special Chambers that will start arrest the top albanian leaders. Whats left ? Well, you always have the keyboard warriors here. 👍
Sad to see that the albanians doesnt undeRstand the political / diplomatic game.
(Staff, 3 July 2018 17:02)

G man, stroke of genius!!!

Sreten

pre 5 godina

Ordinary Albanian,
I agree with you.
"The only problem remains how this event might efect the nearby countries.."
And it should. If this was done at the very beginning we would have avoid all those wars. All the problems came from treating some differently then others

Zoran

pre 5 godina

Now what has the US donated to your Kosova again except depleted uranium?
(sj, 4 July 2018 15:19)
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Let's not forget the Bill Clinton statue, someone has to wipe the bird poop off and camp Bondsteel, it's good business for Albanian prostitutes.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 5 godina

I really wouldn't put much hope in that. Trump couldn't care less about Kosovo, and Putin is happy to leave it the frozen conflict it is. The best case scenario is that Trump appears more open to an actual compromise because he's largely checked out of Europe beyond reminding NATO members to pay their dues. But don't expect any reversal of policy.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Tom L'Orizi, 4 July 2018 12:03)

I haven’t decided anything on the bankruptcy of the US. The figures I have quoted are fact, but how would you know anything anyway.
The US is your bro mate not ours. Its you that needs to worry because he can turn on his friends very quickly and its your Albos that need US protection. Serbs are his enemy. Its you that cost the US too much money with little return – if you don’t understand that let me know.
But if Serbs are the enemy why has the US done all this:
US pharmaceutical company Abbott donated a 1.5 million Euro modern biochemical laboratory to Serbia. US Ambassador Kyle Scott was at the new facility with President Alexandar Vucic.
$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade.

The US donated early flood warning equipment which cost $1 million. US Ambassador Kyle Scott was at the press conference where he made the announcement.

Now what has the US donated to your Kosova again except depleted uranium?

Chi

pre 5 godina

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

icj1, did you just fall off a turnip truck??? Trump can't stand Islam, so what makes you think he'd support you Albo Narco Terrorists???

Niko

pre 5 godina

Putin: I'm keeping Crimea and Kosovo will go back to Serbia with less than independence and more than autonomy...
Trump: Oh okay. I'll save half of billion.
Putin: I may pull the same trick in Baltic states and Poland.
Trump: Yes,go ahead...more savings too...
Putin: Wow, you are easier to deal than Obama.
Trump: That is yuuuughe.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

The handover has begun."
(sj, 3 July 2018 12:42)

Yes, the handover of Serbia has begun. Putin knows Serbia is too far to do anything with. All he really wants is neighboring Crimea. Trump will give it to him if he stays away from Europe. Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia. The final handover of Serbia has begun.
(Genti, 3 July 2018 23:49)
@ gentiaj - dude, stupid comments like above really make you albs look elementary and backward!
Even the Albanians I work with think you're some "cobani" still stuck in Hoxha's past, when the albs thought everyone was trying to escape TO Albania, the "paradise" of the world, lol.

Toooo funny;)

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Ya Serbs like America and Russia care about solving the Kosovo issue. Putin likes it the way it is so he can have a dastardly criminal excuse for invading Ukraine. Then again Serbs are not the sharpest tools. Adrian Burka you have to stop hanging around Serbs your sliding in to meanest. You used to be a such a good boy now yore into serious decline. I read that Romania is in economical stagnation a cesspools of debts. I hate to brake it to you but your fixation on your. con·sump·tion
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Watcher

pre 5 godina

It is not for them to decide... A pouting nazistic (sic) megalomaniac and a pathetic tsaristic dictator have nothing to decide in the Balkans.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

They will do as told!!

Peggy

pre 5 godina

What about solving Ukraine crisis first, and Russia starts pulling it's soldiers from Eastern Ukraine?!
(Avni, 3 July 2018 17:35)
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Yeah, you tell them.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

But don't expect any reversal of policy.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 July 2018 16:35)
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Which policy is that? Keeping Bondsteel there indefinitely? Making sure that Kosovo stays separated from Serbia?
I wonder if any of this is going to be in the interests of US for much longer because Trump isn't interested in NATO or UN for that matter. If he wins the next term he will most likely cut ties because of the cost.
Actually, he doesn't have to reverse recognition of Kosovo. All he has to do is pull out of Kosovo and let it become Europe's problem and we all know Europe has many problems right now.

sj

pre 5 godina

If don't know the difference between import duties and sanctions then you only deserve to be a burger flipper in McDonald's.
(SJ, 4 July 2018 09:51)

Pumpkin, legally, tariffs are a form of sanctions.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade
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JS, small compensation for all the damage.
How much damage do you think those bombs dropped made?
Breaking a good chunk of our country away so that they can built their base. How much do you think all that is?
But the worst of all, is all the innocent lives lost while they were bombing Serbia. Who's going to bring those people back?
Don't tell us that US is a friend. Maybe one day in the future but for now they are the enemy who had declared a war on a small country.
Do you really think that $30M dollars is enough? I think it's more of an insult.

ari

pre 5 godina

YES RUSSIA WILL WIN SERBS WILL LOSE USA WILL WIN UKRAINA WILL LOSE . ALBANIANS HAVE WON AND KOSOVA IN UN. RUSSIA KEEPS EASTERN UKRAINE SERBIA RECOGNIZE KOSOVA SERBIAN MINORITY GETS GREAT RIGHTS IN KOSOVA. SERBIA PAYS KOSOVA MONEY FOR THE WAR. SERBIA IS EXCEPTED IN EU. RUSSIA IMPROVES RELATIONS WITH THE REST OF BALLKANS COUNTRIES BY DISTANCING ITSELF FROM SERBIA. IF THEY STAY NEUTRAL AND FORCE SERBIA TO MAKE PEACE WITH KOSOVA RUSSIA COULD HAVE BETTER TRADE AND BETTER RELATIONS WITH ALBANIA, KOSOSVA,MONTENEGRO,MAQEDONIA,CROATIA,SLLOVENIA,BOSNJA,TURKISH,HUNGARY , RUMANIA,BULLGARIA ALMOST 50 MILLION PEOPLE SO PUTIN IS GOING TO FORCE SERBIA TO MAKE PEACE.

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 5 godina

It is not for them to decide... A pouting nazistic (sic) megalomaniac and a pathetic tsaristic dictator have nothing to decide in the Balkans.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Genti, 3 July 2018 23:49)
The US, as a Nation, has a debt to GDP ratio of 420%. With State, Federal and local Government debt now is $25 trillion.

It’s all about money boy, and if you think that Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia then your dreaming LOL. Trump’s word’s not mine “America First” does not say “America First with Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia”. He does not care about you guys. For starters I doubt Trump even knows where Kosovo, Croatia BiH are located.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

What about solving Ukraine crisis first, and Russia starts pulling it's soldiers from Eastern Ukraine?!
(Avni, 3 July 2018 17:35)

@ avniaj - what about it??

sj

pre 5 godina

@ ( sj, 3 July 2018. 15:01)

Could please DOCUMENT where you got the idea Trump put sanctions on EU COUNTRIES.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 July 2018 20:26)

Try reading a newspaper since Trump has increased tariffs on EU trade into the US.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... It’s all about money boy, and if you think that Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia then your dreaming LOL. Trump’s word’s not mine “America First” does not say “America First with Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia”. He does not care about you guys. For starters I doubt Trump even knows where Kosovo, Croatia BiH are located.
(sj, 4 July 2018 10:01)

Now you have decided to bankrupt the US!!!

Trump doesn't say 'America first with Serbia' either, and knowing Trump's unpredictably with career-irritants like Serbia, he will find time to direct the issue accordingly.

JS

pre 5 godina

@ sj

"Serbs are not ignorant, its just that you are naïve if you think that Crimea is a problem. Big powers do what they like and small countries listen and obey."

And that applies to Russia in Crimea. So you and your beloved Russia have lost the moral high ground, in case you hadn't already noticed.

"Those sanctions against Russian a joke. They are not hurting Russia at all."

Exaggeration, as usual.

"Kosovo is not a closed issue since Trump is prepared to dump anyone and everything to put America first. You think that he will be concerned about Kosovo that is a financial pit? Nope."

But Kosovo being an independent country isn't costing America anything. So why would Trump change the status quo?

"The EU will flip flop as power structure changes. The EU countries are now closer to Russia because of Trumps sanctions on EU trade than ever."

An overactive imagination.

Genti

pre 5 godina

"The handover has begun."
(sj, 3 July 2018 12:42)

Yes, the handover of Serbia has begun. Putin knows Serbia is too far to do anything with. All he really wants is neighboring Crimea. Trump will give it to him if he stays away from Europe. Serbia will be finally pushed into the US sphere of influence and split between Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia. The final handover of Serbia has begun.

SJ

pre 5 godina

@ sj

"Try reading a newspaper since Trump has increased tariffs on EU trade into the US."

If don't know the difference between import duties and sanctions then you only deserve to be a burger flipper in McDonald's.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Putin: I'm keeping Crimea and Kosovo will go back to Serbia with less than independence and more than autonomy...
Trump: Oh okay. I'll save half of billion.
Putin: I may pull the same trick in Baltic states and Poland.
Trump: Yes,go ahead...more savings too...
Putin: Wow, you are easier to deal than Obama.
Trump: That is yuuuughe.
(Niko, 4 July 2018 04:09)

In few years time, this will be taught in schools in Serbia as a historical fact because they found it written on this forum which by then will be believed to be a mediaeval Serbian Orthodox Church hovering on the cloud.

The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

Waltzing Matilda,
The jig is up! Everyone on this site is onto you, as evidenced by their comments. Isn’t it time you changed your overused handle. Putin is going to be very disappointed in you and, therefore, send you back home to herd kangaroos, where you’ll be more useful. Russia’s approaching colapse will require little Vlad to beg for free kangaroo meat to ward off starvation of the masses.

svabo

pre 5 godina

Chump can't even find Kosovo or Serbia on the map and his entire government consists of the deep state and the military industrial complex who controls this weird piece of excrement of a human being but good luck anyway.

JS

pre 5 godina

@ sj

"The US is your bro mate not ours."

'Mate' reminds us all that you are Australian not Serbian, and as an Aussie the US is your friend. Sorry to break the bad news, bro. ;)

"Its you that cost the US too much money with little return..."

And what is the big expense? Being well-trained in the Russian troll farm you will want to cite the cost of Bondsteel. But I will head you off to remind you that Bondsteel is a military base. It is not an expense for there being an independent country called Kosovo. So, please, humor me. Where is the big cost at?

"But if Serbs are the enemy why has the US done all this:
US pharmaceutical company Abbott donated a 1.5 million Euro modern biochemical laboratory to Serbia. US Ambassador Kyle Scott was at the new facility with President Alexandar Vucic.
$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade."

Another example of your duplicity. One day the US is the arch enemy of Serbia but a day later -- when you are trying another tactic to make Kosovars look bad -- Serbia is not an enemy at all.

You lack basic moral standards, the most fundamental one being honesty.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Yes, Trump cannot stand Islamists like the ones who set on fire the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi. That was exactly my point... Which is why Serbia should be careful about having mobs in Belgrade set the US Embassy on fire.

#MAGA
(icj1, 8 July 2018 01:32)
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Do you really think that Trump is even thinking about that?
I think they have all moved past that including China which had it's own embassy bombed by the US. Do you think China should be reminding Trump about expecting it to make any impact now?
They have moved on but by the looks of thing Albanians keep living in the hope that this will keep Trump enraged forever.

JS

pre 5 godina

"$30 million for construction of retirement village near Belgrade. US Ambassador Michael Kirby made the announcement and presented the cheque at a media conference in Belgrade
===…==
JS, small compensation for all the damage.
How much damage do you think those bombs dropped made?"

In the billions of dollars.

"Breaking a good chunk of our country away so that they can built their base. How much do you think all that is?"

As far as the public debate in the States, it was never about trying to help Kosovo break away.

"But the worst of all, is all the innocent lives lost while they were bombing Serbia. Who's going to bring those people back?"

We can only find hope by living in the present and looking forward to the future.

"Don't tell us that US is a friend. Maybe one day in the future but for now they are the enemy who had declared a war on a small country.
Do you really think that $30M dollars is enough? I think it's more of an insult."

I appreciate the consistency of your post. I understand your feelings. They are rational and reasonable.

JS

pre 5 godina

"If you watch and listen to Trump it gives you a very good idea what he thinks about the world. He states America first and everything else is last and that includes Kosovo."

True. But that also includes Serbia.

"Trump’s problem is US expenditure. Since it’s a consumer-based economy"

Too much so these days. But, sad to say, still light years ahead of Serbia.

"After announcing the cessation of US exercises in South Korea, Trump said that it costs a lot of money to run them and the US cannot afford to maintain that practise."

Trump said it cost a lot of money; sj says that the US cannot afford them.

"Now Putin needs to keep Serbia in its sphere of influence. It needs to have a foot hole in the Balkans. I’d say two of the main topics to be covered is Syria and US withdrawal from there and what to do with Kosovo."

Realistic possibility.

"Forget about Crimea. That’s a done deal and the US is only going through the motions."

It would start a major war and Crimea remaining part of Ukraine isn't worth the cost of war.

"If Trump does not give a fig about the EU, South America, Africa etc he des not give a second thought to Kosovo. Since Kosovo was only taken to “stop” the Russian influence, Trump would not lose sleep about handing it over."

Trump has been known to make unorthodox decisions.

"The handover has begun."

Exaggeration, as usual.

icj1

pre 5 godina

Image that, the failed Clinton policies from 20+ years ago are undone within a minute. I wouldn't put it past Trump.
(Zoran, 3 July 2018 12:20)

Exactly... Trump will undo within a minute failed policies of past administrations that made the US the laughing stock of the world and let US diplomatic missions in places like Belgrade and Benghazi to be set on fire by mobs. If that happens again, Trump won't respond with just words like his predecessors did (Assad and Putin got a taste of that already).

#MAGA
(icj1, 3 July 2018 14:25)

Trump can't stand Islam
(Chi, 7 July 2018 18:04)

Yes, Trump cannot stand Islamists like the ones who set on fire the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi. That was exactly my point... Which is why Serbia should be careful about having mobs in Belgrade set the US Embassy on fire.

#MAGA

icj1

pre 5 godina

Trump can't stand Islam
(Chi, 7 July 2018 18:04)

Yes, Trump cannot stand Islamists like the ones who set on fire the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi. That was exactly my point... Which is why Serbia should be careful about having mobs in Belgrade set the US Embassy on fire.

#MAGA
(icj1, 8 July 2018 01:32)

Do you really think that Trump is even thinking about that?
(Peggy, 9 July 2018 04:05)

That's what our dear friend Chi said... If you don't believe him/her, feel free to sort that out with Chi and let us know the conclusion :)