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Wednesday, 30.05.2018.

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EU membership "hasn't helped quell neo-fascism in Croatia"

Israel's Jerusalem Post <a href=" https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Fundamentally-Freund-Croatias-neo-fascist-revival-558319" class="text-link" target= "_blank">has published an article</a> on its website entitled, "Croatia’s neo-fascist revival."

Izvor: Tanjug

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Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Mr. Fake Name "Honcho",
I do not participate in "social media" so don't waste your time. However, you can find me in several places on the Internet due to my being known for my hard work and good deeds for many, including Serbs, Jews and many others. I was awarded as a "Serbian Knight" by the World Serbian Congress, I am mentioned in a book called "Who is Who in the Serb World". I have official documents about dozens in my maternal and paternal family, murdered by the Ustaša during WWII, in the U.S. Holocaust Museum and Yad Vashem in Jerusalem. I am a lead plaintiff in a class action lawsuit against the Vatican for their complicity during the Holocaust. During the Yugo Wars, I helped ALL victims, regardless of religion or ethnicity. So I am proud to use my real name. The Internet mentions me, I did not seek out such attention. My work and deeds are enough.

Honcho (Atamanovic) Honchev

pre 5 godina

Sj, Brtsy - hope you do not mind, but you are idiots.

I like both of you, so if you say I am an idiot, that's OK with me.

1) Genetically it does not matter, are people in question Zulu warriors, Jews or Eskimos. There is astonishingly ZERO genetic variety (compared with animal world).

I.e. genetically I can sleep with a daughter of a Zulu chieftain or the wife of an Eskimo hunter. The offspring will have very little genetic variety. With the same "success" I can sleep with my niece (or sister, if I would have any).

Sad, but true. Humans have the least genetic variety in the animal world. (There go all idiotic racist theories!)

2) All the problems (Zulu vs. Eskimo) are of cultural nature.

If I say, the cultural contribution of Albanians who lived on the top of mountains and had fun with goats (instead of their own sisters) is zero, that it is.

Of course, a Zulu warrior may have an offspring with Albanian who can be nominated for Nobel prize in astrophysics - this is the beauty of genetics.

But firstmost, the education + upbringing.

THIS is where Albanians fail badly. And THIS is the success story of Russians, Jews, Hungarians.

I.e. again. Take a daughter of an Albanian goat herder and put her in an elite Hungarian ("Fazekas") or Russian or Israeli school.

With a big chance you got the future Nobel price winner.

Just make sure, she has good teachers... The Hungarian teacher salary of $800 / month is 3 times less, than in RU.

Honcho

pre 5 godina

I just sent an invite to Betsy Lalich via LinkedIn.
Let's see, does she respond or not.

Largely I agree with her - except, where I don't.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Azir,
We all know who and what you are. And like most on this site, few have the dignity or courage to give their real names. I have a real name and credibility. It is apparently wasted among all the frauds that write on this site. The fault lies with B92.
No more wasting my time.
You can all fight amongst yourselves as Serbia sinks even further.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Sj,
You don't know all the facts.
With people such as yourself, who are also patronizing, I will not waste my time. But I will say this : I have worked within the Jewish (particularly Israeli) and Serbian community, for over 3 decades. I know of what I speak. You can name those you dislike or criticize. But do you name any others? Therefore you condemn all. THAT is bigotry.

sj

pre 5 godina

Sj,
You are a Jew-hating, not an anti-semite, which includes Arabs. So I don't use that term.
You may point out as many Jews you hate, as possible, but you will certainly ignore the true Israelis or other Jews that support Serbs. That makes you a bigot.
(Betsy Lalich, 1 June 2018 17:46)

Sweetie what I have posted are facts that can be proven, but as I said the usual answer to any delicate questions or criticisms of Jews ends up in being called an anti-semite opps in your terms a Jew hater.

I could understand it if I said that I hated Jews but I don't. I have only stated the absolute facts and if that does not pander to your ideas of how the world functions then I am sorry for you.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Sj,
You are a Jew-hating, not an anti-semite, which includes Arabs. So I don't use that term.
You may point out as many Jews you hate, as possible, but you will certainly ignore the true Israelis or other Jews that support Serbs. That makes you a bigot.

sj

pre 5 godina

In Australia it was common to see and hear Mark Leibler, then head of the Australian Jewish Council, denounce Serbian activities in the media during the 1990s.

Ellie Wiesel, Nobel Laureate, was at a function with Bill Clinton where Wiesel turned to Clinton and demanded that Clinton take military action against the Bosnian Serbs. I watched this.

Yitzak Rabin, the then Israeli PM, also on TV, declaring a donation of US$3,000 towards a fund that was started to assist the Bosniaks against the Serbs. I saw this on TV.

George Soros and the UK Jewish Council were also openly hostile towards the Serbs.

Sadly, there are Serbs like Betsy who believe everything that they hear how the Jews helped the Serbs. Individually, I agree, that some may have done just that, but at an international leadership level that never happened, including Israel, no matter how hard you dream. The even sadder part is if you criticise Jews then automatically that’s antisemitism. So be it and call me an anti-Semite. As I said before I do not like fair-weather friends. Let them look elsewhere for friends.

Jews practically run the US government and they could have pulled back the dogs of war and not bombed Serbia, but they did nothing. Our “friends” saw profit in it.

Honcho

pre 5 godina

This is why there must be a strong Israel. Jew-hatred and pure ignorance live on.
(Betsy Lalich, 31 May 2018 14:28)

Absolutely, nothing else but MMM does do the job.

M(erkava)
M(iG)
M(egaton)

OK, it's KFIR not MiG, but otherwise there won't be three "M"-s.

Same applies to Serbia. You do not want to be "mercifully" bombed, "humanitarian" way?
Have enough of these three (kinds) above.

As far as Megaton-s there is only one thing for both Israel and Serbia better than that:

EVEN MORE MEGATONS.

There is nothing "just enough" of nukes.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

It is astonishing at the ignorance of so many on this site. Israel openly and secretly assisted Serbs in the last civil war.
"ChiTown" thinks Jews rule the world.
"Lenard" thinks business or a vacationer means love for Croatia which stole the Dalmatian coast.
"Azir" confuses opinion with fact.
"Hamas" is obviously pro-terrorist and thinks the brutal Palestinians are innocent.
"Deda" should be old enough to know better and the reality.
This is why there must be a strong Israel. Jew-hatred and pure ignorance live on.

sj

pre 5 godina

(DEDA CVETKO, 30 May 2018 22:33)

You have hit the nail right on the head.

While in the 1990s the Israelis were busy congratulating the Croatian state their brethren in the US, Australia and UK were busy condemning Serbs at every turn.

Elie Wiesel was demanding that Bill Clinton bomb the Serbs, but never mentioned about the atrocities committed by Israel against the Palestinians and this guy even received a Nobel Peace prize too LOL.

Now that they see the dangers of what they nurtured, they write about it because they are concerned that antisemitism is spreading worldwide, and they need friends. Very soon they will seek to rekindle Serb friendship.

I don’t speak for anyone but myself, but I have never liked fair-weather friends since they tend to turn their backs on you as soon as the situation improves for them.

Honcho

pre 5 godina

I understand, you hate us (Russians, Ukrainians, Hungarians).
This is OK.

But why do you hate Germans or French? Or British?

Ask anyone from London to Moscow where is the place you can find most shiptars. The answer is the same: "in prison".

Congratulations.

icj1

pre 5 godina

I described the Serbs according to Tribunal convictions not opinions.
(Azir, 30 May 2018 23:12)

The Tribunal convicted individuals for the crimes that they committed; the Tribunal did not convict the Serbs. Just because some criminals happened to be of Serb ethnicity, that does not mean that the Serbs are criminals, dear!

Joseph

pre 5 godina

have ruined it
for everyone else.
EU values and European values are two different things. The eu plans were laid in 1942. And started with the treaty of r one in 1957. The eu was corrupt prior to Croatia joining. Who caused the break-up. All roads lead to r ome/----- so the righteous have to stick to the bible. freenations.net trust in Jehovah.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Betsy, many Serbs go and holiday in Croatia as well. There is no end to Serbian stupidity.
They actually think that Croatians have changed. Serbs thought the same way after WW1 and after WW2. How many times are we going to be so stupid? Don't prop up their economy and give them a dime. There are other places to visit and have a great time like the Greek islands. Share our money with our friends not enemies.
And, they can be assured of no foreign substance in their soup. I wouldn't trust Croats to handle my food.

DEDA CVETKO

pre 5 godina

Oh, my dear Israeli friends...you are riding in to the rescue of Croatian civility a little too little, too late. You should have worried about the resurgence of nazism in Croatia back in July and August of 1995. Sadly, you were too busy congratulating the Croatian state on the biggest ethnic cleansing in the history of post-WW2 Europe.

njegos

pre 5 godina

But wait a minute, I though Azir and Avni have been telling us all along that the Serbs were the fascists and the Croats were friends of the Albanians and the good guys. Could Azir and Avni have gotten this wrong? And let's throw Leonard in there for good measure. Oh, and my bad, we can't leave out icj1 who never misses an opportunity to portray Serbs as fascist barbarians too. And then of course there's Dwight of revisionist fame. I'm quite sure I could fill this page with all the Serb-haters on this forum. But as we see, reality keeps defying these revisionists and the world can see who the true fascist followers are.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

It is astonishing that this surprises anyone. For decades, I and many others in the Jewish and Serbian communities have sought to bring attention to this horrid sentiment that NEVER left Croatia. Yet big powers like the U.S. and Germany actually supported Croatia in their continuing criminal activity. How can we forget Bill Clinton saying that the expulsion of thousands of Serbs from Krajina was a move for "peace"? Many are guilty here, not just the Croatian nation. And shockingly their tourism thrives along the Dalmatian coast, which deserves its own independence. Even young, ignorant Israelis go there. It is more than shameful. But the world has CHOSEN to be blind. Worse, Serbs have been made "villains". Nedaj se ! (don't give in) noble Serbs. Bog gledaj sve ! (god sees all) !

Hank the Tank

pre 5 godina

Croatia is what's left after the Nazi era. Seems europe didn't go a job good enough to crush these savages. Can't think of a more evil and rude people then the croats. Thinking they are better then everyone else just because they have a coast. Like they had anything to do with its creation. Croats hapend to settle in these parts after expelling the indigenous italian population. Croatia is Europes biggest mistake and after Croatia was accepted into the EU they have ruined it for everyone else.

Lenard

pre 5 godina

That is why 170,000 Israelis vacation in Croatia every yea and both our airlines have direct service to each other countries. Israel and Croatia are working on over dozen military projects together. Israel invested billions in to Croatia pharmaceutical, military industry etc. That is why 111 Croatians are honerd in Israel as the righteous the most for size and population. Serbs mind your own business and your so recent murderous fascism an that goes way back for centuries. Keep practicing your Turkish language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXfIv_e4QPk Turks want you back they miss you. You both have the same mentality being together for centuries. Dadic is practicing for his new life as a belly dancer for Eredgoon get busy Serbs and be useful.

HAMAS

pre 5 godina

How about the Jews worry about how they are treating the Palestinians, and forget about what happened over 70 years ago. Poor Jews😥😔

PEN

pre 5 godina

The Croats have always been very clever at evading justice for their crimes. They were subsumed into two manifestations of the Yugoslav project, and on both occasions evaded justice on the alter of 'brotherhood and unity.' What they did to the civilian population of the NDH during the Second World War beggars belief. Their murderous campaign was more revolting then anything seen anywhere before. Even the Germans were sickened by their behaviour. They butchered defenceless people by the thousand in ways that would turn the stomach of a medieval inquisition. And yet a significant proportion of the populace celebrate these killers as if they were national heroes, as at Bleiburg. The EU has ignored their behaviour for far too long. Stronger sanctions are called for.

ChiTown

pre 5 godina

Lenard, cat got your tongue on this one buddy?!?!?! What say ye, my little Ustasha monkey? Take a peek at who runs the world, pretty sure you don't want to get these people on your bad side..... LOL.

sj

pre 5 godina

Wow, does this come as a surprise? Croats are just being Croats and the vast majority are fascists. Now what has become an embarrassment to Europe is supported the the US since they like to use them to try and stir things up.
The problem is Serbia will not take the bait and the Croats look even more ludicrous much like the Albanians in Kosovo over stopping of those Serbs visiting the old Church.

The sad part is that there is no cure except total destruction.

Note this, no one will invest in Croatia - no one. Croatia is losing people in great numbers and they are now No 3 in those stakes in the EU after the Baltic countries and Romania.

sj

pre 5 godina

Wow, does this come as a surprise? Croats are just being Croats and the vast majority are fascists. Now what has become an embarrassment to Europe is supported the the US since they like to use them to try and stir things up.
The problem is Serbia will not take the bait and the Croats look even more ludicrous much like the Albanians in Kosovo over stopping of those Serbs visiting the old Church.

The sad part is that there is no cure except total destruction.

Note this, no one will invest in Croatia - no one. Croatia is losing people in great numbers and they are now No 3 in those stakes in the EU after the Baltic countries and Romania.

PEN

pre 5 godina

The Croats have always been very clever at evading justice for their crimes. They were subsumed into two manifestations of the Yugoslav project, and on both occasions evaded justice on the alter of 'brotherhood and unity.' What they did to the civilian population of the NDH during the Second World War beggars belief. Their murderous campaign was more revolting then anything seen anywhere before. Even the Germans were sickened by their behaviour. They butchered defenceless people by the thousand in ways that would turn the stomach of a medieval inquisition. And yet a significant proportion of the populace celebrate these killers as if they were national heroes, as at Bleiburg. The EU has ignored their behaviour for far too long. Stronger sanctions are called for.

ChiTown

pre 5 godina

Lenard, cat got your tongue on this one buddy?!?!?! What say ye, my little Ustasha monkey? Take a peek at who runs the world, pretty sure you don't want to get these people on your bad side..... LOL.

Lenard

pre 5 godina

That is why 170,000 Israelis vacation in Croatia every yea and both our airlines have direct service to each other countries. Israel and Croatia are working on over dozen military projects together. Israel invested billions in to Croatia pharmaceutical, military industry etc. That is why 111 Croatians are honerd in Israel as the righteous the most for size and population. Serbs mind your own business and your so recent murderous fascism an that goes way back for centuries. Keep practicing your Turkish language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXfIv_e4QPk Turks want you back they miss you. You both have the same mentality being together for centuries. Dadic is practicing for his new life as a belly dancer for Eredgoon get busy Serbs and be useful.

Hank the Tank

pre 5 godina

Croatia is what's left after the Nazi era. Seems europe didn't go a job good enough to crush these savages. Can't think of a more evil and rude people then the croats. Thinking they are better then everyone else just because they have a coast. Like they had anything to do with its creation. Croats hapend to settle in these parts after expelling the indigenous italian population. Croatia is Europes biggest mistake and after Croatia was accepted into the EU they have ruined it for everyone else.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

It is astonishing that this surprises anyone. For decades, I and many others in the Jewish and Serbian communities have sought to bring attention to this horrid sentiment that NEVER left Croatia. Yet big powers like the U.S. and Germany actually supported Croatia in their continuing criminal activity. How can we forget Bill Clinton saying that the expulsion of thousands of Serbs from Krajina was a move for "peace"? Many are guilty here, not just the Croatian nation. And shockingly their tourism thrives along the Dalmatian coast, which deserves its own independence. Even young, ignorant Israelis go there. It is more than shameful. But the world has CHOSEN to be blind. Worse, Serbs have been made "villains". Nedaj se ! (don't give in) noble Serbs. Bog gledaj sve ! (god sees all) !

njegos

pre 5 godina

But wait a minute, I though Azir and Avni have been telling us all along that the Serbs were the fascists and the Croats were friends of the Albanians and the good guys. Could Azir and Avni have gotten this wrong? And let's throw Leonard in there for good measure. Oh, and my bad, we can't leave out icj1 who never misses an opportunity to portray Serbs as fascist barbarians too. And then of course there's Dwight of revisionist fame. I'm quite sure I could fill this page with all the Serb-haters on this forum. But as we see, reality keeps defying these revisionists and the world can see who the true fascist followers are.

DEDA CVETKO

pre 5 godina

Oh, my dear Israeli friends...you are riding in to the rescue of Croatian civility a little too little, too late. You should have worried about the resurgence of nazism in Croatia back in July and August of 1995. Sadly, you were too busy congratulating the Croatian state on the biggest ethnic cleansing in the history of post-WW2 Europe.

HAMAS

pre 5 godina

How about the Jews worry about how they are treating the Palestinians, and forget about what happened over 70 years ago. Poor Jews😥😔

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Betsy, many Serbs go and holiday in Croatia as well. There is no end to Serbian stupidity.
They actually think that Croatians have changed. Serbs thought the same way after WW1 and after WW2. How many times are we going to be so stupid? Don't prop up their economy and give them a dime. There are other places to visit and have a great time like the Greek islands. Share our money with our friends not enemies.
And, they can be assured of no foreign substance in their soup. I wouldn't trust Croats to handle my food.

sj

pre 5 godina

(DEDA CVETKO, 30 May 2018 22:33)

You have hit the nail right on the head.

While in the 1990s the Israelis were busy congratulating the Croatian state their brethren in the US, Australia and UK were busy condemning Serbs at every turn.

Elie Wiesel was demanding that Bill Clinton bomb the Serbs, but never mentioned about the atrocities committed by Israel against the Palestinians and this guy even received a Nobel Peace prize too LOL.

Now that they see the dangers of what they nurtured, they write about it because they are concerned that antisemitism is spreading worldwide, and they need friends. Very soon they will seek to rekindle Serb friendship.

I don’t speak for anyone but myself, but I have never liked fair-weather friends since they tend to turn their backs on you as soon as the situation improves for them.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

It is astonishing at the ignorance of so many on this site. Israel openly and secretly assisted Serbs in the last civil war.
"ChiTown" thinks Jews rule the world.
"Lenard" thinks business or a vacationer means love for Croatia which stole the Dalmatian coast.
"Azir" confuses opinion with fact.
"Hamas" is obviously pro-terrorist and thinks the brutal Palestinians are innocent.
"Deda" should be old enough to know better and the reality.
This is why there must be a strong Israel. Jew-hatred and pure ignorance live on.

Honcho

pre 5 godina

I understand, you hate us (Russians, Ukrainians, Hungarians).
This is OK.

But why do you hate Germans or French? Or British?

Ask anyone from London to Moscow where is the place you can find most shiptars. The answer is the same: "in prison".

Congratulations.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Sj,
You are a Jew-hating, not an anti-semite, which includes Arabs. So I don't use that term.
You may point out as many Jews you hate, as possible, but you will certainly ignore the true Israelis or other Jews that support Serbs. That makes you a bigot.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Azir,
We all know who and what you are. And like most on this site, few have the dignity or courage to give their real names. I have a real name and credibility. It is apparently wasted among all the frauds that write on this site. The fault lies with B92.
No more wasting my time.
You can all fight amongst yourselves as Serbia sinks even further.

Joseph

pre 5 godina

have ruined it
for everyone else.
EU values and European values are two different things. The eu plans were laid in 1942. And started with the treaty of r one in 1957. The eu was corrupt prior to Croatia joining. Who caused the break-up. All roads lead to r ome/----- so the righteous have to stick to the bible. freenations.net trust in Jehovah.

icj1

pre 5 godina

I described the Serbs according to Tribunal convictions not opinions.
(Azir, 30 May 2018 23:12)

The Tribunal convicted individuals for the crimes that they committed; the Tribunal did not convict the Serbs. Just because some criminals happened to be of Serb ethnicity, that does not mean that the Serbs are criminals, dear!

Honcho

pre 5 godina

This is why there must be a strong Israel. Jew-hatred and pure ignorance live on.
(Betsy Lalich, 31 May 2018 14:28)

Absolutely, nothing else but MMM does do the job.

M(erkava)
M(iG)
M(egaton)

OK, it's KFIR not MiG, but otherwise there won't be three "M"-s.

Same applies to Serbia. You do not want to be "mercifully" bombed, "humanitarian" way?
Have enough of these three (kinds) above.

As far as Megaton-s there is only one thing for both Israel and Serbia better than that:

EVEN MORE MEGATONS.

There is nothing "just enough" of nukes.

sj

pre 5 godina

In Australia it was common to see and hear Mark Leibler, then head of the Australian Jewish Council, denounce Serbian activities in the media during the 1990s.

Ellie Wiesel, Nobel Laureate, was at a function with Bill Clinton where Wiesel turned to Clinton and demanded that Clinton take military action against the Bosnian Serbs. I watched this.

Yitzak Rabin, the then Israeli PM, also on TV, declaring a donation of US$3,000 towards a fund that was started to assist the Bosniaks against the Serbs. I saw this on TV.

George Soros and the UK Jewish Council were also openly hostile towards the Serbs.

Sadly, there are Serbs like Betsy who believe everything that they hear how the Jews helped the Serbs. Individually, I agree, that some may have done just that, but at an international leadership level that never happened, including Israel, no matter how hard you dream. The even sadder part is if you criticise Jews then automatically that’s antisemitism. So be it and call me an anti-Semite. As I said before I do not like fair-weather friends. Let them look elsewhere for friends.

Jews practically run the US government and they could have pulled back the dogs of war and not bombed Serbia, but they did nothing. Our “friends” saw profit in it.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Sj,
You don't know all the facts.
With people such as yourself, who are also patronizing, I will not waste my time. But I will say this : I have worked within the Jewish (particularly Israeli) and Serbian community, for over 3 decades. I know of what I speak. You can name those you dislike or criticize. But do you name any others? Therefore you condemn all. THAT is bigotry.

sj

pre 5 godina

Sj,
You are a Jew-hating, not an anti-semite, which includes Arabs. So I don't use that term.
You may point out as many Jews you hate, as possible, but you will certainly ignore the true Israelis or other Jews that support Serbs. That makes you a bigot.
(Betsy Lalich, 1 June 2018 17:46)

Sweetie what I have posted are facts that can be proven, but as I said the usual answer to any delicate questions or criticisms of Jews ends up in being called an anti-semite opps in your terms a Jew hater.

I could understand it if I said that I hated Jews but I don't. I have only stated the absolute facts and if that does not pander to your ideas of how the world functions then I am sorry for you.

Honcho

pre 5 godina

I just sent an invite to Betsy Lalich via LinkedIn.
Let's see, does she respond or not.

Largely I agree with her - except, where I don't.

Honcho (Atamanovic) Honchev

pre 5 godina

Sj, Brtsy - hope you do not mind, but you are idiots.

I like both of you, so if you say I am an idiot, that's OK with me.

1) Genetically it does not matter, are people in question Zulu warriors, Jews or Eskimos. There is astonishingly ZERO genetic variety (compared with animal world).

I.e. genetically I can sleep with a daughter of a Zulu chieftain or the wife of an Eskimo hunter. The offspring will have very little genetic variety. With the same "success" I can sleep with my niece (or sister, if I would have any).

Sad, but true. Humans have the least genetic variety in the animal world. (There go all idiotic racist theories!)

2) All the problems (Zulu vs. Eskimo) are of cultural nature.

If I say, the cultural contribution of Albanians who lived on the top of mountains and had fun with goats (instead of their own sisters) is zero, that it is.

Of course, a Zulu warrior may have an offspring with Albanian who can be nominated for Nobel prize in astrophysics - this is the beauty of genetics.

But firstmost, the education + upbringing.

THIS is where Albanians fail badly. And THIS is the success story of Russians, Jews, Hungarians.

I.e. again. Take a daughter of an Albanian goat herder and put her in an elite Hungarian ("Fazekas") or Russian or Israeli school.

With a big chance you got the future Nobel price winner.

Just make sure, she has good teachers... The Hungarian teacher salary of $800 / month is 3 times less, than in RU.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Mr. Fake Name "Honcho",
I do not participate in "social media" so don't waste your time. However, you can find me in several places on the Internet due to my being known for my hard work and good deeds for many, including Serbs, Jews and many others. I was awarded as a "Serbian Knight" by the World Serbian Congress, I am mentioned in a book called "Who is Who in the Serb World". I have official documents about dozens in my maternal and paternal family, murdered by the Ustaša during WWII, in the U.S. Holocaust Museum and Yad Vashem in Jerusalem. I am a lead plaintiff in a class action lawsuit against the Vatican for their complicity during the Holocaust. During the Yugo Wars, I helped ALL victims, regardless of religion or ethnicity. So I am proud to use my real name. The Internet mentions me, I did not seek out such attention. My work and deeds are enough.

HAMAS

pre 5 godina

How about the Jews worry about how they are treating the Palestinians, and forget about what happened over 70 years ago. Poor Jews😥😔

ChiTown

pre 5 godina

Lenard, cat got your tongue on this one buddy?!?!?! What say ye, my little Ustasha monkey? Take a peek at who runs the world, pretty sure you don't want to get these people on your bad side..... LOL.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

It is astonishing that this surprises anyone. For decades, I and many others in the Jewish and Serbian communities have sought to bring attention to this horrid sentiment that NEVER left Croatia. Yet big powers like the U.S. and Germany actually supported Croatia in their continuing criminal activity. How can we forget Bill Clinton saying that the expulsion of thousands of Serbs from Krajina was a move for "peace"? Many are guilty here, not just the Croatian nation. And shockingly their tourism thrives along the Dalmatian coast, which deserves its own independence. Even young, ignorant Israelis go there. It is more than shameful. But the world has CHOSEN to be blind. Worse, Serbs have been made "villains". Nedaj se ! (don't give in) noble Serbs. Bog gledaj sve ! (god sees all) !

Lenard

pre 5 godina

That is why 170,000 Israelis vacation in Croatia every yea and both our airlines have direct service to each other countries. Israel and Croatia are working on over dozen military projects together. Israel invested billions in to Croatia pharmaceutical, military industry etc. That is why 111 Croatians are honerd in Israel as the righteous the most for size and population. Serbs mind your own business and your so recent murderous fascism an that goes way back for centuries. Keep practicing your Turkish language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXfIv_e4QPk Turks want you back they miss you. You both have the same mentality being together for centuries. Dadic is practicing for his new life as a belly dancer for Eredgoon get busy Serbs and be useful.

Hank the Tank

pre 5 godina

Croatia is what's left after the Nazi era. Seems europe didn't go a job good enough to crush these savages. Can't think of a more evil and rude people then the croats. Thinking they are better then everyone else just because they have a coast. Like they had anything to do with its creation. Croats hapend to settle in these parts after expelling the indigenous italian population. Croatia is Europes biggest mistake and after Croatia was accepted into the EU they have ruined it for everyone else.

sj

pre 5 godina

Wow, does this come as a surprise? Croats are just being Croats and the vast majority are fascists. Now what has become an embarrassment to Europe is supported the the US since they like to use them to try and stir things up.
The problem is Serbia will not take the bait and the Croats look even more ludicrous much like the Albanians in Kosovo over stopping of those Serbs visiting the old Church.

The sad part is that there is no cure except total destruction.

Note this, no one will invest in Croatia - no one. Croatia is losing people in great numbers and they are now No 3 in those stakes in the EU after the Baltic countries and Romania.

PEN

pre 5 godina

The Croats have always been very clever at evading justice for their crimes. They were subsumed into two manifestations of the Yugoslav project, and on both occasions evaded justice on the alter of 'brotherhood and unity.' What they did to the civilian population of the NDH during the Second World War beggars belief. Their murderous campaign was more revolting then anything seen anywhere before. Even the Germans were sickened by their behaviour. They butchered defenceless people by the thousand in ways that would turn the stomach of a medieval inquisition. And yet a significant proportion of the populace celebrate these killers as if they were national heroes, as at Bleiburg. The EU has ignored their behaviour for far too long. Stronger sanctions are called for.

njegos

pre 5 godina

But wait a minute, I though Azir and Avni have been telling us all along that the Serbs were the fascists and the Croats were friends of the Albanians and the good guys. Could Azir and Avni have gotten this wrong? And let's throw Leonard in there for good measure. Oh, and my bad, we can't leave out icj1 who never misses an opportunity to portray Serbs as fascist barbarians too. And then of course there's Dwight of revisionist fame. I'm quite sure I could fill this page with all the Serb-haters on this forum. But as we see, reality keeps defying these revisionists and the world can see who the true fascist followers are.

DEDA CVETKO

pre 5 godina

Oh, my dear Israeli friends...you are riding in to the rescue of Croatian civility a little too little, too late. You should have worried about the resurgence of nazism in Croatia back in July and August of 1995. Sadly, you were too busy congratulating the Croatian state on the biggest ethnic cleansing in the history of post-WW2 Europe.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

It is astonishing at the ignorance of so many on this site. Israel openly and secretly assisted Serbs in the last civil war.
"ChiTown" thinks Jews rule the world.
"Lenard" thinks business or a vacationer means love for Croatia which stole the Dalmatian coast.
"Azir" confuses opinion with fact.
"Hamas" is obviously pro-terrorist and thinks the brutal Palestinians are innocent.
"Deda" should be old enough to know better and the reality.
This is why there must be a strong Israel. Jew-hatred and pure ignorance live on.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Betsy, many Serbs go and holiday in Croatia as well. There is no end to Serbian stupidity.
They actually think that Croatians have changed. Serbs thought the same way after WW1 and after WW2. How many times are we going to be so stupid? Don't prop up their economy and give them a dime. There are other places to visit and have a great time like the Greek islands. Share our money with our friends not enemies.
And, they can be assured of no foreign substance in their soup. I wouldn't trust Croats to handle my food.

icj1

pre 5 godina

I described the Serbs according to Tribunal convictions not opinions.
(Azir, 30 May 2018 23:12)

The Tribunal convicted individuals for the crimes that they committed; the Tribunal did not convict the Serbs. Just because some criminals happened to be of Serb ethnicity, that does not mean that the Serbs are criminals, dear!

sj

pre 5 godina

(DEDA CVETKO, 30 May 2018 22:33)

You have hit the nail right on the head.

While in the 1990s the Israelis were busy congratulating the Croatian state their brethren in the US, Australia and UK were busy condemning Serbs at every turn.

Elie Wiesel was demanding that Bill Clinton bomb the Serbs, but never mentioned about the atrocities committed by Israel against the Palestinians and this guy even received a Nobel Peace prize too LOL.

Now that they see the dangers of what they nurtured, they write about it because they are concerned that antisemitism is spreading worldwide, and they need friends. Very soon they will seek to rekindle Serb friendship.

I don’t speak for anyone but myself, but I have never liked fair-weather friends since they tend to turn their backs on you as soon as the situation improves for them.

sj

pre 5 godina

Sj,
You are a Jew-hating, not an anti-semite, which includes Arabs. So I don't use that term.
You may point out as many Jews you hate, as possible, but you will certainly ignore the true Israelis or other Jews that support Serbs. That makes you a bigot.
(Betsy Lalich, 1 June 2018 17:46)

Sweetie what I have posted are facts that can be proven, but as I said the usual answer to any delicate questions or criticisms of Jews ends up in being called an anti-semite opps in your terms a Jew hater.

I could understand it if I said that I hated Jews but I don't. I have only stated the absolute facts and if that does not pander to your ideas of how the world functions then I am sorry for you.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Azir,
We all know who and what you are. And like most on this site, few have the dignity or courage to give their real names. I have a real name and credibility. It is apparently wasted among all the frauds that write on this site. The fault lies with B92.
No more wasting my time.
You can all fight amongst yourselves as Serbia sinks even further.

Honcho

pre 5 godina

I understand, you hate us (Russians, Ukrainians, Hungarians).
This is OK.

But why do you hate Germans or French? Or British?

Ask anyone from London to Moscow where is the place you can find most shiptars. The answer is the same: "in prison".

Congratulations.

sj

pre 5 godina

In Australia it was common to see and hear Mark Leibler, then head of the Australian Jewish Council, denounce Serbian activities in the media during the 1990s.

Ellie Wiesel, Nobel Laureate, was at a function with Bill Clinton where Wiesel turned to Clinton and demanded that Clinton take military action against the Bosnian Serbs. I watched this.

Yitzak Rabin, the then Israeli PM, also on TV, declaring a donation of US$3,000 towards a fund that was started to assist the Bosniaks against the Serbs. I saw this on TV.

George Soros and the UK Jewish Council were also openly hostile towards the Serbs.

Sadly, there are Serbs like Betsy who believe everything that they hear how the Jews helped the Serbs. Individually, I agree, that some may have done just that, but at an international leadership level that never happened, including Israel, no matter how hard you dream. The even sadder part is if you criticise Jews then automatically that’s antisemitism. So be it and call me an anti-Semite. As I said before I do not like fair-weather friends. Let them look elsewhere for friends.

Jews practically run the US government and they could have pulled back the dogs of war and not bombed Serbia, but they did nothing. Our “friends” saw profit in it.

Honcho (Atamanovic) Honchev

pre 5 godina

Sj, Brtsy - hope you do not mind, but you are idiots.

I like both of you, so if you say I am an idiot, that's OK with me.

1) Genetically it does not matter, are people in question Zulu warriors, Jews or Eskimos. There is astonishingly ZERO genetic variety (compared with animal world).

I.e. genetically I can sleep with a daughter of a Zulu chieftain or the wife of an Eskimo hunter. The offspring will have very little genetic variety. With the same "success" I can sleep with my niece (or sister, if I would have any).

Sad, but true. Humans have the least genetic variety in the animal world. (There go all idiotic racist theories!)

2) All the problems (Zulu vs. Eskimo) are of cultural nature.

If I say, the cultural contribution of Albanians who lived on the top of mountains and had fun with goats (instead of their own sisters) is zero, that it is.

Of course, a Zulu warrior may have an offspring with Albanian who can be nominated for Nobel prize in astrophysics - this is the beauty of genetics.

But firstmost, the education + upbringing.

THIS is where Albanians fail badly. And THIS is the success story of Russians, Jews, Hungarians.

I.e. again. Take a daughter of an Albanian goat herder and put her in an elite Hungarian ("Fazekas") or Russian or Israeli school.

With a big chance you got the future Nobel price winner.

Just make sure, she has good teachers... The Hungarian teacher salary of $800 / month is 3 times less, than in RU.

Honcho

pre 5 godina

This is why there must be a strong Israel. Jew-hatred and pure ignorance live on.
(Betsy Lalich, 31 May 2018 14:28)

Absolutely, nothing else but MMM does do the job.

M(erkava)
M(iG)
M(egaton)

OK, it's KFIR not MiG, but otherwise there won't be three "M"-s.

Same applies to Serbia. You do not want to be "mercifully" bombed, "humanitarian" way?
Have enough of these three (kinds) above.

As far as Megaton-s there is only one thing for both Israel and Serbia better than that:

EVEN MORE MEGATONS.

There is nothing "just enough" of nukes.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Sj,
You are a Jew-hating, not an anti-semite, which includes Arabs. So I don't use that term.
You may point out as many Jews you hate, as possible, but you will certainly ignore the true Israelis or other Jews that support Serbs. That makes you a bigot.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Sj,
You don't know all the facts.
With people such as yourself, who are also patronizing, I will not waste my time. But I will say this : I have worked within the Jewish (particularly Israeli) and Serbian community, for over 3 decades. I know of what I speak. You can name those you dislike or criticize. But do you name any others? Therefore you condemn all. THAT is bigotry.

Joseph

pre 5 godina

have ruined it
for everyone else.
EU values and European values are two different things. The eu plans were laid in 1942. And started with the treaty of r one in 1957. The eu was corrupt prior to Croatia joining. Who caused the break-up. All roads lead to r ome/----- so the righteous have to stick to the bible. freenations.net trust in Jehovah.

Honcho

pre 5 godina

I just sent an invite to Betsy Lalich via LinkedIn.
Let's see, does she respond or not.

Largely I agree with her - except, where I don't.

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Mr. Fake Name "Honcho",
I do not participate in "social media" so don't waste your time. However, you can find me in several places on the Internet due to my being known for my hard work and good deeds for many, including Serbs, Jews and many others. I was awarded as a "Serbian Knight" by the World Serbian Congress, I am mentioned in a book called "Who is Who in the Serb World". I have official documents about dozens in my maternal and paternal family, murdered by the Ustaša during WWII, in the U.S. Holocaust Museum and Yad Vashem in Jerusalem. I am a lead plaintiff in a class action lawsuit against the Vatican for their complicity during the Holocaust. During the Yugo Wars, I helped ALL victims, regardless of religion or ethnicity. So I am proud to use my real name. The Internet mentions me, I did not seek out such attention. My work and deeds are enough.