Ex-UK ambassador says Milosevic was "pro-US, anti-Russian"

Low level former diplomat Roberts is quite arrogant to say that he knew Milosevic better than any other British politician let alone European. Lord David Owen has been quoted many times that peace in the Balkans and the Dayton accords would not have been achieved without Milosevic.

So Montenegro joining NATO was democratic and constitutional like you say EU and NATO are and so was bombing Serbia? If anything the west is more criminal than Russia. your amount of hypocrsy is huge... Russia didnt do anything to Montenegro and Macedonia that is just a pure lie. I doubt the Montenegrin people were happy when they joined NATO do you? Russia works in the interests of Serbia and its allies stop listening to this propaganda

This idea is not far-fetched. Think for a moment. Sloba destroyed Yugoslavia, and thanks to him Kosovo is independent.

To the West, Milosevic was a war criminal, while to many Serbs he was "not only that but also the man who oversaw a collapse in living standards, the isolation of Serbia and the loss of swaths of territory that had once been majority Serb," Roberts states.

Is & was this former ambassador on some kind of potent hallucinate, maybe acid or angel dust????

When was serbs a majority in The Republic Of Kosova???
Show one legitimate documate that proves Serbs made up a majority!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if Dacic hasn't lined this jack...'s pockets to make these absurd claims!
Where was you in 1999 to speak this nonsense?
Yea right, maybe next time you'll have better luck!

So Serbs want to honour a man who put them thro 4 lost wars so much death, give them bad name, bankrupt the economy, lost there “ holy land “ who is the genius behind this LOL

Jugo....

You make what David Owen said about Milosevic sound like it was intended as a compliment.

It was not a compliment.

I asked him about the state of things at the time - and in general Milosevic was considerered to be a big part of the problem.

To the West, Milosevic was a war criminal, while to many Serbs he was "not only that but also the man who oversaw a collapse in living standards, the isolation of Serbia and the loss of swaths of territory that had once been majority Serb," Roberts states.

Is & was this former ambassador on some kind of potent hallucinate, maybe acid or angel dust????

When was serbs a majority in The Republic Of Kosova???
Show one legitimate documate that proves Serbs made up a majority!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if Dacic hasn't lined this jack...'s pockets to make these absurd claims!
Where was you in 1999 to speak this nonsense?
Yea right, maybe next time you'll have better luck!
(Peter The Ricky Mountains, 5 April 2018 17:41)

@ peteyaj - Lined his pockets? You're thinking pacolli, not Dacic!
Pacolli bribes them to death, Dacic sings them to death...LOL

"When I served in Belgrade in the 1990s," Roberts writes, "we helped keep the flame of democracy alive during the region’s darkest hours precisely because we committed the necessary resources. Washington and London are making a mistake in abandoning this part of Europe and putting that earlier investment and those achievements at risk.

Serbian people you better wake up, what is the point in permitting Satan to pull Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodoxy of the Balkans by the nose ???

Roberts is 100% correct regarding Milosevic relation with Russia.
His arrogant behavior and well-known hatred towards everything even remotely Russian was (much more) responsible for the (lack of) help he received from RU.

True, RU was at the lowest level of it's power back than - but this alone would play a minor role. Russians were simply unsure, what to do with that guy who hated them when he did not need them. And when he did need them... who knew what is up the next?

The fairy-tale about Milosevic being an Orthodox Slavonic pro-Russian blah-blah-blah is just blah-blah-blah.

He was an SOB towards Russians, towards Americans, towards Croatians, towards Albanians, heck, even towards his mentor and best man (whom he let murder).

So he was "just" an SOB.

One thing is to regret: that he did not die sooner.

This guy doesnt get it. He admits they were working hard to change yugoslavia. That was precisely the problem. The west wanted to hijack the yugoslavian government to change into something that works for them. Milosevic refused to do that. He refused to handover the yugoslavian right to choose its own destiny. He also is wrong on him being anti russian. He tried turning to the west because russia was in shambles. Milosevic had no good choices to choose from. He either hands over control of yugoslavia to western decisions, or he attempts to resist. It is in every serbs nature to resist this sort of takeover, look at the history of serbs. You can do much worsw than milosevic when it comes to a leader of a country, just look at the EUs leaders, is merkel a bettsr leader? I think if you say yes, you should get your head examined

The opinion of a professional backstabbing Brit is not worth 2 euro cents. Thank got they're leaving the EU. They'll have to make do with crapping in their own back yard for once.

Non Sense or as they say rubbish talk coming from a UK ambassador, the man was a true Serb hero, obviously he did not jump when the UK said so, therefore he didn't give a damn what the UK or what the USA said. Rest in Peace Mr. Milosevic.

I doubt the Montenegrin people were happy when they joined NATO
(luka, 5 April 2018 16:44)

Well, but according to the Montenegrin people they were happy, otherwise they would not have decided to join NATO.
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Russia works in the interests of Serbia and its allies stop listening to this propaganda
(luka, 5 April 2018 16:44)

Come on, you can't be that naive! Russia works in the interests of Russia, dear...

Roberts is 100% correct regarding Milosevic relation with Russia.
His arrogant behavior and well-known hatred towards everything even remotely Russian was (much more) responsible for the (lack of) help he received from RU.

True, RU was at the lowest level of it's power back than - but this alone would play a minor role. Russians were simply unsure, what to do with that guy who hated them when he did not need them. And when he did need them... who knew what is up the next?

The fairy-tale about Milosevic being an Orthodox Slavonic pro-Russian blah-blah-blah is just blah-blah-blah.

He was an SOB towards Russians, towards Americans, towards Croatians, towards Albanians, heck, even towards his mentor and best man (whom he let murder).

So he was "just" an SOB.

One thing is to regret: that he did not die sooner.
(Ataman, 5 April 2018 20:53)

But, for some unclear reasons to Ataman, Russians decided to accept his wife Baba Mira and his son with all the stolen millions to Russia.

Blah blah blah.

You could do better than this Ataman!???

Lord David Owen has been quoted many times that peace in the Balkans and the Dayton accords would not have been achieved without Milosevic.
(Jugoslavija, 5 April 2018 17:10)

Yes, but without him (and without his enemies like Izetbegovic or Tudjman) there wouldn't be any need for Dayton accords. They "solved" problems they generated.

No respect to any of them.

The topic is about Milosevic, others were not any better.

The country was killed by idiots, now you work hard towards somehow re-unite... in EU.

What that crap was about than?

With logical leadership the representatives of parts of YU would try to negotiate a better union. Instead, these "leaders" were either criminals or just straight terrorists.

In a better world all the KLA + these leaders I did mention would be in prison for life before they could do any significant damage.

It is true, that the "West" did not play fair and abused all deals it made with Gorbi.

But without these criminals the chances of damage to modernized YU or USSR would be zero. Criminals and fascists won.

Yes, but without him (and without his enemies like Izetbegovic or Tudjman) there wouldn't be any need for Dayton accords. They "solved" problems they generated.

No respect to any of them.

The topic is about Milosevic, others were not any better.

... What that crap was about than?

With logical leadership the representatives of parts of YU would try to negotiate a better union. Instead, these "leaders" were either criminals or just straight terrorists.

In a better world all the KLA + these leaders I did mention would be in prison for life before they could do any significant damage.

It is true, that the "West" did not play fair and abused all deals it made with Gorbi.

But without these criminals the chances of damage to modernized YU or USSR would be zero. Criminals and fascists won.
(Ataman, 7 April 2018 07:19)

Ataman,

Noticeably, you are always assigning the blame to USA or EU (the West) whenever you come across some gross failure in USSR or Russia or former YU or Serbia that emotionally hurts you, be it historical or current.

You mention these local idiots - as you call them - alluding to Milosevic, Tudjma, Izetbegovic, Gorbi etc, but you fall short of willingness to elaborate how come the corresponding societies, cultures and countries are so fertile and prone to generate the never ending supply of these idiots who for some reason end up running those nations.

Would that again be the West's fault?

Peter
Of course nato is going to tell you milosevic is a war criminal, how else are they going to gain support from their people to conduct illegal airstrikes. Its always the same tactics by nato, accuse the enemy of the very thing you are doing. Tens of thousands of serbs expelled, after bombing stopped. They are not allowed to come back. Albanians come back after running from bombs. Seems to me the ethnic cleansing was from nato and kla. Albanians had many, many rights under serbian control that serbs do not possess under albanian control.

People of Montenegro and Macedonia decided independently in their elections, without interference. Both chose NATO and US and not Russia. Who would ever choose a ''friend'' that you never know when he will conquer and tear your country apart in the name of orthodox brotherhood. I Hope western Balkans, with exception of Serbia, join NATO soon.

To the West, Milosevic was a war criminal, while to many Serbs he was "not only that but also the man who oversaw a collapse in living standards, the isolation of Serbia and the loss of swaths of territory that had once been majority Serb," Roberts states.

Is & was this former ambassador on some kind of potent hallucinate, maybe acid or angel dust????

When was serbs a majority in The Republic Of Kosova???
Show one legitimate documate that proves Serbs made up a majority!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if Dacic hasn't lined this jack...'s pockets to make these absurd claims!
Where was you in 1999 to speak this nonsense?
Yea right, maybe next time you'll have better luck!

So Montenegro joining NATO was democratic and constitutional like you say EU and NATO are and so was bombing Serbia? If anything the west is more criminal than Russia. your amount of hypocrsy is huge... Russia didnt do anything to Montenegro and Macedonia that is just a pure lie. I doubt the Montenegrin people were happy when they joined NATO do you? Russia works in the interests of Serbia and its allies stop listening to this propaganda

Low level former diplomat Roberts is quite arrogant to say that he knew Milosevic better than any other British politician let alone European. Lord David Owen has been quoted many times that peace in the Balkans and the Dayton accords would not have been achieved without Milosevic.

So Serbs want to honour a man who put them thro 4 lost wars so much death, give them bad name, bankrupt the economy, lost there “ holy land “ who is the genius behind this LOL

Roberts is 100% correct regarding Milosevic relation with Russia.
His arrogant behavior and well-known hatred towards everything even remotely Russian was (much more) responsible for the (lack of) help he received from RU.

True, RU was at the lowest level of it's power back than - but this alone would play a minor role. Russians were simply unsure, what to do with that guy who hated them when he did not need them. And when he did need them... who knew what is up the next?

The fairy-tale about Milosevic being an Orthodox Slavonic pro-Russian blah-blah-blah is just blah-blah-blah.

He was an SOB towards Russians, towards Americans, towards Croatians, towards Albanians, heck, even towards his mentor and best man (whom he let murder).

So he was "just" an SOB.

One thing is to regret: that he did not die sooner.

"When I served in Belgrade in the 1990s," Roberts writes, "we helped keep the flame of democracy alive during the region’s darkest hours precisely because we committed the necessary resources. Washington and London are making a mistake in abandoning this part of Europe and putting that earlier investment and those achievements at risk.

Serbian people you better wake up, what is the point in permitting Satan to pull Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodoxy of the Balkans by the nose ???

This idea is not far-fetched. Think for a moment. Sloba destroyed Yugoslavia, and thanks to him Kosovo is independent.

Non Sense or as they say rubbish talk coming from a UK ambassador, the man was a true Serb hero, obviously he did not jump when the UK said so, therefore he didn't give a damn what the UK or what the USA said. Rest in Peace Mr. Milosevic.

To the West, Milosevic was a war criminal, while to many Serbs he was "not only that but also the man who oversaw a collapse in living standards, the isolation of Serbia and the loss of swaths of territory that had once been majority Serb," Roberts states.

Is & was this former ambassador on some kind of potent hallucinate, maybe acid or angel dust????

When was serbs a majority in The Republic Of Kosova???
Show one legitimate documate that proves Serbs made up a majority!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if Dacic hasn't lined this jack...'s pockets to make these absurd claims!
Where was you in 1999 to speak this nonsense?
Yea right, maybe next time you'll have better luck!
(Peter The Ricky Mountains, 5 April 2018 17:41)

@ peteyaj - Lined his pockets? You're thinking pacolli, not Dacic!
Pacolli bribes them to death, Dacic sings them to death...LOL

Jugo....

You make what David Owen said about Milosevic sound like it was intended as a compliment.

It was not a compliment.

I asked him about the state of things at the time - and in general Milosevic was considerered to be a big part of the problem.

The opinion of a professional backstabbing Brit is not worth 2 euro cents. Thank got they're leaving the EU. They'll have to make do with crapping in their own back yard for once.

Peter
Of course nato is going to tell you milosevic is a war criminal, how else are they going to gain support from their people to conduct illegal airstrikes. Its always the same tactics by nato, accuse the enemy of the very thing you are doing. Tens of thousands of serbs expelled, after bombing stopped. They are not allowed to come back. Albanians come back after running from bombs. Seems to me the ethnic cleansing was from nato and kla. Albanians had many, many rights under serbian control that serbs do not possess under albanian control.

This guy doesnt get it. He admits they were working hard to change yugoslavia. That was precisely the problem. The west wanted to hijack the yugoslavian government to change into something that works for them. Milosevic refused to do that. He refused to handover the yugoslavian right to choose its own destiny. He also is wrong on him being anti russian. He tried turning to the west because russia was in shambles. Milosevic had no good choices to choose from. He either hands over control of yugoslavia to western decisions, or he attempts to resist. It is in every serbs nature to resist this sort of takeover, look at the history of serbs. You can do much worsw than milosevic when it comes to a leader of a country, just look at the EUs leaders, is merkel a bettsr leader? I think if you say yes, you should get your head examined

I doubt the Montenegrin people were happy when they joined NATO
(luka, 5 April 2018 16:44)

Well, but according to the Montenegrin people they were happy, otherwise they would not have decided to join NATO.
----------

Russia works in the interests of Serbia and its allies stop listening to this propaganda
(luka, 5 April 2018 16:44)

Come on, you can't be that naive! Russia works in the interests of Russia, dear...

Lord David Owen has been quoted many times that peace in the Balkans and the Dayton accords would not have been achieved without Milosevic.
(Jugoslavija, 5 April 2018 17:10)

Yes, but without him (and without his enemies like Izetbegovic or Tudjman) there wouldn't be any need for Dayton accords. They "solved" problems they generated.

No respect to any of them.

The topic is about Milosevic, others were not any better.

The country was killed by idiots, now you work hard towards somehow re-unite... in EU.

What that crap was about than?

With logical leadership the representatives of parts of YU would try to negotiate a better union. Instead, these "leaders" were either criminals or just straight terrorists.

In a better world all the KLA + these leaders I did mention would be in prison for life before they could do any significant damage.

It is true, that the "West" did not play fair and abused all deals it made with Gorbi.

But without these criminals the chances of damage to modernized YU or USSR would be zero. Criminals and fascists won.

Yes, but without him (and without his enemies like Izetbegovic or Tudjman) there wouldn't be any need for Dayton accords. They "solved" problems they generated.

No respect to any of them.

The topic is about Milosevic, others were not any better.

... What that crap was about than?

With logical leadership the representatives of parts of YU would try to negotiate a better union. Instead, these "leaders" were either criminals or just straight terrorists.

In a better world all the KLA + these leaders I did mention would be in prison for life before they could do any significant damage.

It is true, that the "West" did not play fair and abused all deals it made with Gorbi.

But without these criminals the chances of damage to modernized YU or USSR would be zero. Criminals and fascists won.
(Ataman, 7 April 2018 07:19)

Ataman,

Noticeably, you are always assigning the blame to USA or EU (the West) whenever you come across some gross failure in USSR or Russia or former YU or Serbia that emotionally hurts you, be it historical or current.

You mention these local idiots - as you call them - alluding to Milosevic, Tudjma, Izetbegovic, Gorbi etc, but you fall short of willingness to elaborate how come the corresponding societies, cultures and countries are so fertile and prone to generate the never ending supply of these idiots who for some reason end up running those nations.

Would that again be the West's fault?

Roberts is 100% correct regarding Milosevic relation with Russia.
His arrogant behavior and well-known hatred towards everything even remotely Russian was (much more) responsible for the (lack of) help he received from RU.

True, RU was at the lowest level of it's power back than - but this alone would play a minor role. Russians were simply unsure, what to do with that guy who hated them when he did not need them. And when he did need them... who knew what is up the next?

The fairy-tale about Milosevic being an Orthodox Slavonic pro-Russian blah-blah-blah is just blah-blah-blah.

He was an SOB towards Russians, towards Americans, towards Croatians, towards Albanians, heck, even towards his mentor and best man (whom he let murder).

So he was "just" an SOB.

One thing is to regret: that he did not die sooner.
(Ataman, 5 April 2018 20:53)

But, for some unclear reasons to Ataman, Russians decided to accept his wife Baba Mira and his son with all the stolen millions to Russia.

Blah blah blah.

You could do better than this Ataman!???

People of Montenegro and Macedonia decided independently in their elections, without interference. Both chose NATO and US and not Russia. Who would ever choose a ''friend'' that you never know when he will conquer and tear your country apart in the name of orthodox brotherhood. I Hope western Balkans, with exception of Serbia, join NATO soon.