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Wednesday, 21.03.2018.

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Vucic "dissatisfied with results" of NYC meetings on Kosovo

President Aleksandar Vucic told RTS late on Wednesday that he had "a number of difficult and strenuous meetings" on Kosovo in the US over the past three days.

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EU Dude

pre 6 godina

@Tito reloaded

You did not answer my question. That says a lot. That you even suggest a swap between northern Kosovo on Presevo. That also says a lot. Your suggestions are very limited and artificial, without regards to the consequences.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

Clinton knows this very well even though he will not admit it, just like he knows he is a rapist and will not admit it. He also knows that at least 25 people he was associated with have been murdered or died mysteriously so they cannot testify afainst him, nor will he admit to that either. He has lots in common with Albo leadership.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 6 godina

You are full of crap, Serbian troops never ran away. Clinton begged the Russians to broker a peace and the Ukranian Amb. was sent in to do so. The Serbian troops withdrew after U.N. Res 1244 said KOSOVO WILL REMAIN AN INTEGERAL PART OF SERBIA.
(Mike Sujdovic, 27 March 2018 07:05)

Does Clinton know about this?

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

@genti

You are full of crap, Serbian troops never ran away. Clinton begged the Russians to broker a peace and the Ukranian Amb. was sent in to do so. The Serbian troops withdrew after U.N. Res 1244 said KOSOVO WILL REMAIN AN INTEGERAL PART OF SERBIA.

Luka

pre 6 godina

Can't you see Vucic!!!!!! they won't accept any compromise they are going to divide Serbia and then conquer. With this presidency Serbia is bound to die.

Genti

pre 6 godina

"the war is not over until Serbia says it is. Never underestimate us, many have and it cost them dearly!!!
(Mike Sujdovic, 23 March 2018 19:20)"

Hahaha, that's exactly what Milloshevic told the NATO commanders before they laughed at his face. A little later, the Serbian army ran away from Kosovo without a single NATO soldier setting foot there and Milloshevic ended up a depressed man in the Hague.

Your empty bravado doesn't fool anyone "Mike". Your statements are like balloons, all it takes is one little needle.

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

@EU Dude
Did you read suggestion 2 and 3? One was reunite in peace. The other was a revolution in both areas serbia and kosovo and a new state called Balkania.

First answer somehow did not went through, so this one is shorter.

Bratstvo i jedinstvo

ned taylor

pre 6 godina

SJ: I am under no illusion about the strength or lack thereof where the USA is concerned. I was simply pointing out that while the issues of Russia and North Korea continue to give Trump and his cronies problems, there will be very little time to be bothered about what Trump no doubt views as tin pot places like Kosovo/Serbia.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic talks about compromise but unfortunately the time for that is long since past. There is no rowing back from an independent Kosovo and much as those in the Balkans, and to an extent I myself, would like to think that the US and their allies care about the Serbia/Kosovo situation, they do not. In February 2008 it was crossed off the 'to do list' and consigned to the history books. The Korean peninsula and Russia are the only shows in town now.
(ned taylor, 22 March 2018 20:52)

@ Mr. taylor, lol, This is the Balkans!! There is ALWAYS "rowing back"...
Just when you think you're all set...BAM!!!! In the Balkans, preparation for war beins the moment the peace treaty is signed...But obviously, Mr. Taylor...you already knew that! LOL

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

@Genti: I beg to differ, the battle may or may not of been lost, however the war is not over until Serbia says it is. Never underestimate us, many have and it cost them dearly!!!

Who

pre 6 godina

sj, 23 March 2018 11:29)

sj you so smart, why don’t you teach vucic a little
Sounds like you can solve the ballcan problem 1,2,3 but instead you enjoy the western lifestyle and yap, and yap.

sj

pre 6 godina

(ned taylor, 22 March 2018 20:52)

Ned you have a lot to learn. It’s never that easy. If its crossed off their list why even bother talking to Serbia? I certainly wouldn’t, but they try and put on that face. It’s not over by a long shot and they know it.

As far as Russia and North Korea being on their list, they try and portray their strength for people like you in the west and you believe it all.

The US of Piss and Wind cannot do a thing about NK or Russia. It’s all for show.

In their propaganda the west constantly refuses to mention that China is on the Russian side and that China and Russia have a defence pact. They hate bringing fact into a spin story. Much like these tariffs Trump announced against China – it will hurt China more that the US. What a load of horse manure.
Its as if the US is somehow impervious to everything from a huge debt or waging a trade war with China.

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

@TitoReloaded

What about Greater/Natural/Bio/Obese-Albania?

You've just changed borders, so it makes change even more borders still an option.

Your solution does not solve anything. It just encourage the greater-albanianists.

I note that you have remained silent on Macedonia. Do you support splitting that up too and paring of parts to Kosovo and Albania?

Genti

pre 6 godina

"We are trying to find a compromise solution, but the Albanian side is doing its job, and the international community its won."

Wow! It took the government 20 years to tell this to its people? You Serbs have some coward leaders, sticking their head in the sand and avoiding any responsibility. The war was lost in 1999, what did anyone in Serbia seriously expect? Just postponing the inevitable truth.
By the way, even when Serbia recognizes Kosovo (which I expect will happen before year-end) ZSO will NOT be implemented until the same Association is implemented in Serbia. Albanians will never accept anything other than reciprocity. Serbia has sucked Kosova's blood for centuries, we are not making any concession to Serbia.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@watcher
Your so far up Putins rear end your basically blind to what is happening in reality!!!
He iis that powerful hmmm? Then Why hasn't your buddy Putin sent in his Spetsnaz units to Kosova yet?
Maybe that biker club nightwolves could shoot over to The Republic Of Kosova?
I would really like to see how they would be welcomed here on illirias land, I don't think they are that stupid to even try!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 22 March 2018 17:05)
@ petey - ...and one more thing, I am not a fan of Vladimir Putin...I just see him as equal force of pushback to the tyranny of the West...a force that makes the West think today before going around raping and pillaging other smaller countries! They've finally run into a "just as big" wall and can't seem to come to terms with it!
It doesn't hurt that he does things per international law and calls out injustices everywhere...His existence allows a little guy like Srbija to give a big fat "FU" to the bullies of the west!
If he was on the side of "kosova", you would love him to death...or at least "kiss his ass" to death....

Taulant

pre 6 godina

"I am not pleased, because the Western powers are firmly committed to respect the preservation of the Kosovo's independence," Vucic said."

What more needs to be said? Anything else is just noise. To all the Serb nationalists, this is all you need to know. Your own president is telling you, but you are like the ostrich, you stick your head in the sand, and scream IT IS NOT SO!

ned taylor

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic talks about compromise but unfortunately the time for that is long since past. There is no rowing back from an independent Kosovo and much as those in the Balkans, and to an extent I myself, would like to think that the US and their allies care about the Serbia/Kosovo situation, they do not. In February 2008 it was crossed off the 'to do list' and consigned to the history books. The Korean peninsula and Russia are the only shows in town now.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Oh, my poor, little Albos... you just don't get it, even it if hit you in the head like a meteor. The Serbs DON'T have to join the EU!!! There are some benefits, and there are some consequences, but the Serbs DON'T have to join if they choose not to do so. We're self sufficient and we have other partners globally, as well as some EU members, for commerce, trade and support. Pretty sure that it behoves the EU to make concessions to Serbia to keep them in harmony with Europe, and maybe a little further from the East. Sit tight, and the longer Serbia waits, the more benefits they'll reap. On the other hand, KiM Albo's need hand outs and every type of support they can get, and they'll bend over to anyone that will provide it.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

STOP WAISTING SERBIAN TIME ON MEETING WITH THE CARROT AND STICK. MAKE EFFORT TO FORM PAN ORTHODOX BALKAN CONFERDERATION. ALSO, FORMING NEW TRADING PARTNERS.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@watcher
Your so far up Putins rear end your basically blind to what is happening in reality!!!
He iis that powerful hmmm? Then Why hasn't your buddy Putin sent in his Spetsnaz units to Kosova yet?
Maybe that biker club nightwolves could shoot over to The Republic Of Kosova?
I would really like to see how they would be welcomed here on illirias land, I don't think they are that stupid to even try!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 22 March 2018 17:05)

@ petey - BG is telling Putin our future is in the EU, working & trading with all! Our destiny is not with Russia or USA, it's with EU, no matter how much I don't like it!
Not sure how you equate that to being up Putin's rear end? As far as the Spetsnaz and why he hasn't sent them into "kosova"...why would he?
He needs BG's permission to do so!

As far as the Night Wolves, why would they travel to "kosova" where they wouldn't be welcomed? Not sure why you think that's stupidity? Whats stupid is to try t intimidate them even if they were to choose to travel to Kosovo i Metohija..not that they couldn't handle any ruckus you dare throw at them...remember, they're not kids on a school bus that can be intimidated!

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

(Guest, 22 March 2018 11:36)
@ guestaj - one problem, twit... it’s not America’s call!
It’s Putin’s backyard and if he says NYET, it’s NYET, got it?
(Watcher, 22 March 2018 12:21)

@watcher
Your so far up Putins rear end your basically blind to what is happening in reality!!!
He iis that powerful hmmm? Then Why hasn't your buddy Putin sent in his Spetsnaz units to Kosova yet?
Maybe that biker club nightwolves could shoot over to The Republic Of Kosova?
I would really like to see how they would be welcomed here on illirias land, I don't think they are that stupid to even try!!!

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

Tito reloaded - waiting to hear your version of a negotiated settlement....
(Watcher, 22 March 2018 12:15)
without emotions and ideology.
Split Kosovo put north to serbia and rest independent and presovo joins Kosovo. For the rest in enclaves can be done like turkey and greece did. It is brutal unhuman but will solve that conflict and nobody has to live with who he does not want.
2nd option Kosovo stays in/joins serbia and people there have immediatly 3 month visa for EU and join as one state EU. Ironic is the nationalists that destroyed Yugoslavia will all end up in a new federation called EU one day.
3rd now comes ideology. A revolution in Serbia and Kosovo against the mafias at power and the pepole that are stealing from the population. And create a new state Balkania. I prefer to first join EU and then a revolution of the proletariat for bratstvo i jedinstvo in EU. Russia can have a revolution too and can brotherly unite with the new EU.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

On this act and these words of intention, I support Vučić. Like Jerusalem, Kosovo may always be an historical place close to the hearts of many. "The World" would like peace, negotiation, settlement. If only this could be !
(Betsy Lalich, 22 March 2018 13:48)


Just like in Jerusalem, you can go to Kosova, make sure you have the passport and you can visit it . They like tourist there

Bob

pre 6 godina

Hey Vucic there’s nothing to compromised only thing you can compromised do recognize Kosovo independence and be over there is no way round for Serbia. If Serbia doesn’t recognize Kosovo independence nex step for Serbia is going to isolated from the world.

Gjakova

pre 6 godina

Yep its over. Year 2030 and you will still be posting the same comments and talking about an army LOL.
(sj, 22 March 2018 10:33)

SJ ,

1. yesterday Kosovo played in Serbia Handball against Serbian team U19, something you enver thought it will be in 1999.
2. Serbian List gave a vote for border between Kosovo and Montenegro to be set, which in UN will be Between Kosovo and Montenegro.
3. 2030 you will be maybe gone as you are old delusional but Serbia will have 1Million people less.

Why is he going to NY to beg then :)

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

On this act and these words of intention, I support Vučić. Like Jerusalem, Kosovo may always be an historical place close to the hearts of many. "The World" would like peace, negotiation, settlement. If only this could be !

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Nationalist thinking.
Kosovo Albanian nationalists 'we do not want the serbs, but the serbs in north kosovo shall stay with us.'
Serbian nationalists 'we do not want the kosovo albanians but they shall stay with us.'
You nationalistic guys are so similar to each other never mind from which nation you are.
Somehow it is classical nationalism. It is not about consence or logic, it is about having the power over the other group.
(Tito reloaded, 22 March 2018 11:30)

@ Tito reloaded - waiting to hear your version of a negotiated settlement....

Smart Serb

pre 6 godina

Kosovo* is a Province and has never been a Republic within Yugoslavia.
With the support from China, India, Russia, Brazil, Indonesia and Israel not to mention the other nations who are not bought by dirty money, Serbia has more bargaining power than these cockroaches know.
Why is the west pushing and forcing Serbia if the independence issue is settled???
It isn't settled, the propaganda spread by the U.S is failing miserably.
Long live Serbia!!!!!

Watcher

pre 6 godina

On a side note Kosovo would mean nothing to the Serbian government if it wasn’t full of untapped natural resources, let’s be honest it’s all about money and nothing else.
(Guest, 22 March 2018 11:36)
@ guestaj - one problem, twit... it’s not America’s call!
It’s Putin’s backyard and if he says NYET, it’s NYET, got it?

Watcher

pre 6 godina

How many times they have to tell him “ it’s over”
If he haven’t heard the fat lady sing , at least he got to see the fat boy belly dance, and sing for her .It’s over serbs, next step is the Army .
(Albanian American, 21 March 2018 22:29)

@alb amerikan - you been saying that for how long now? Lol
Over? It’s just beginning sweetheart, ;)

Clutches

pre 6 godina

You do have support from half the world Vucic, but unluckily it’s the wrong half considering your geographic location. If you keep this up, you’ll be a non-EU country surrounded by EU countries, and it won’t be a nice relationship like Switzerland with EU. Your party will be voted out of office due to the unsustainable levels of isolation you will experience.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Recognition in exchange of ZSO.
Serbia should take it because the next offer will be worse.
Time to look forward and move on!

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

Nationalist thinking.
Kosovo Albanian nationalists 'we do not want the serbs, but the serbs in north kosovo shall stay with us.'
Serbian nationalists 'we do not want the kosovo albanians but they shall stay with us.'
You nationalistic guys are so similar to each other never mind from which nation you are.
Somehow it is classical nationalism. It is not about consence or logic, it is about having the power over the other group.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

In other words, nothing has changed. The west still trying to push through a failed agenda. The world has changed though, the more pressure they put on Serbia, the larger the divisions will emerge within themselves. I don't think Spain will accept forced pressure to recognise Kosovo. Catalonia is far too important.

Guest

pre 6 godina

Long story short, America told Vucic to suck it up and that Kosovo is as much yours as Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia etc. Just because you stripped Kosovo of its autonomy before the war, does not mean that it wasn’t an autonomous self governing entity like the other republics within Yugoslavia during Titos time. Kosovo is not your historical home, as the oldest churches in the land were built by the Roman Empire and converted to Serbian Orthodox churches during the dying days of the Empire, all the way through the Ottoman Empire. You have no legacy in the Balkans, all ancient pottery, sites and skeletons have nothing to do with you. They all carry an Illyro-Thracian/Hellenic legacy. The oldest skeletons found in the Balkans all have a genetic composition matching that of Greeks, Albanians, Romanians and Italians, yet they have little to no match with southern Slavs. History is not on your side and neither is the international community. Slavs are no different to the Middle Eastern Arabs who believe everything they touch is theirs because they say so and scream and shout till they get what they want. The only historical home you have is The Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. On a side note Kosovo would mean nothing to the Serbian government if it wasn’t full of untapped natural resources, let’s be honest it’s all about money and nothing else.

sj

pre 6 godina

How many times they have to tell him “ it’s over”
If he haven’t heard the fat lady sing , at least he got to see the fat boy belly dance, and sing for her .It’s over serbs, next step is the Army .
(Albanian American, 21 March 2018 22:29)

Yep its over. Year 2030 and you will still be posting the same comments and talking about an army LOL.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

How many times they have to tell him “ it’s over”
If he haven’t heard the fat lady sing , at least he got to see the fat boy belly dance, and sing for her .It’s over serbs, next step is the Army .

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

The Messiah, coming down from the mountain carrying a few stone tablets, will have an important broadcast orbi et urbi shortly.

I am waiting with a baited breath.

Smart Serb

pre 6 godina

Kosovo* is a Province and has never been a Republic within Yugoslavia.
With the support from China, India, Russia, Brazil, Indonesia and Israel not to mention the other nations who are not bought by dirty money, Serbia has more bargaining power than these cockroaches know.
Why is the west pushing and forcing Serbia if the independence issue is settled???
It isn't settled, the propaganda spread by the U.S is failing miserably.
Long live Serbia!!!!!

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

STOP WAISTING SERBIAN TIME ON MEETING WITH THE CARROT AND STICK. MAKE EFFORT TO FORM PAN ORTHODOX BALKAN CONFERDERATION. ALSO, FORMING NEW TRADING PARTNERS.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

@Genti: I beg to differ, the battle may or may not of been lost, however the war is not over until Serbia says it is. Never underestimate us, many have and it cost them dearly!!!

Guest

pre 6 godina

Long story short, America told Vucic to suck it up and that Kosovo is as much yours as Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia etc. Just because you stripped Kosovo of its autonomy before the war, does not mean that it wasn’t an autonomous self governing entity like the other republics within Yugoslavia during Titos time. Kosovo is not your historical home, as the oldest churches in the land were built by the Roman Empire and converted to Serbian Orthodox churches during the dying days of the Empire, all the way through the Ottoman Empire. You have no legacy in the Balkans, all ancient pottery, sites and skeletons have nothing to do with you. They all carry an Illyro-Thracian/Hellenic legacy. The oldest skeletons found in the Balkans all have a genetic composition matching that of Greeks, Albanians, Romanians and Italians, yet they have little to no match with southern Slavs. History is not on your side and neither is the international community. Slavs are no different to the Middle Eastern Arabs who believe everything they touch is theirs because they say so and scream and shout till they get what they want. The only historical home you have is The Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. On a side note Kosovo would mean nothing to the Serbian government if it wasn’t full of untapped natural resources, let’s be honest it’s all about money and nothing else.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Recognition in exchange of ZSO.
Serbia should take it because the next offer will be worse.
Time to look forward and move on!

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

How many times they have to tell him “ it’s over”
If he haven’t heard the fat lady sing , at least he got to see the fat boy belly dance, and sing for her .It’s over serbs, next step is the Army .

Zoran

pre 6 godina

In other words, nothing has changed. The west still trying to push through a failed agenda. The world has changed though, the more pressure they put on Serbia, the larger the divisions will emerge within themselves. I don't think Spain will accept forced pressure to recognise Kosovo. Catalonia is far too important.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Oh, my poor, little Albos... you just don't get it, even it if hit you in the head like a meteor. The Serbs DON'T have to join the EU!!! There are some benefits, and there are some consequences, but the Serbs DON'T have to join if they choose not to do so. We're self sufficient and we have other partners globally, as well as some EU members, for commerce, trade and support. Pretty sure that it behoves the EU to make concessions to Serbia to keep them in harmony with Europe, and maybe a little further from the East. Sit tight, and the longer Serbia waits, the more benefits they'll reap. On the other hand, KiM Albo's need hand outs and every type of support they can get, and they'll bend over to anyone that will provide it.

sj

pre 6 godina

How many times they have to tell him “ it’s over”
If he haven’t heard the fat lady sing , at least he got to see the fat boy belly dance, and sing for her .It’s over serbs, next step is the Army .
(Albanian American, 21 March 2018 22:29)

Yep its over. Year 2030 and you will still be posting the same comments and talking about an army LOL.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

@genti

You are full of crap, Serbian troops never ran away. Clinton begged the Russians to broker a peace and the Ukranian Amb. was sent in to do so. The Serbian troops withdrew after U.N. Res 1244 said KOSOVO WILL REMAIN AN INTEGERAL PART OF SERBIA.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

Clinton knows this very well even though he will not admit it, just like he knows he is a rapist and will not admit it. He also knows that at least 25 people he was associated with have been murdered or died mysteriously so they cannot testify afainst him, nor will he admit to that either. He has lots in common with Albo leadership.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

How many times they have to tell him “ it’s over”
If he haven’t heard the fat lady sing , at least he got to see the fat boy belly dance, and sing for her .It’s over serbs, next step is the Army .
(Albanian American, 21 March 2018 22:29)

@alb amerikan - you been saying that for how long now? Lol
Over? It’s just beginning sweetheart, ;)

Watcher

pre 6 godina

On a side note Kosovo would mean nothing to the Serbian government if it wasn’t full of untapped natural resources, let’s be honest it’s all about money and nothing else.
(Guest, 22 March 2018 11:36)
@ guestaj - one problem, twit... it’s not America’s call!
It’s Putin’s backyard and if he says NYET, it’s NYET, got it?

Gjakova

pre 6 godina

Yep its over. Year 2030 and you will still be posting the same comments and talking about an army LOL.
(sj, 22 March 2018 10:33)

SJ ,

1. yesterday Kosovo played in Serbia Handball against Serbian team U19, something you enver thought it will be in 1999.
2. Serbian List gave a vote for border between Kosovo and Montenegro to be set, which in UN will be Between Kosovo and Montenegro.
3. 2030 you will be maybe gone as you are old delusional but Serbia will have 1Million people less.

Why is he going to NY to beg then :)

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Nationalist thinking.
Kosovo Albanian nationalists 'we do not want the serbs, but the serbs in north kosovo shall stay with us.'
Serbian nationalists 'we do not want the kosovo albanians but they shall stay with us.'
You nationalistic guys are so similar to each other never mind from which nation you are.
Somehow it is classical nationalism. It is not about consence or logic, it is about having the power over the other group.
(Tito reloaded, 22 March 2018 11:30)

@ Tito reloaded - waiting to hear your version of a negotiated settlement....

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

On this act and these words of intention, I support Vučić. Like Jerusalem, Kosovo may always be an historical place close to the hearts of many. "The World" would like peace, negotiation, settlement. If only this could be !
(Betsy Lalich, 22 March 2018 13:48)


Just like in Jerusalem, you can go to Kosova, make sure you have the passport and you can visit it . They like tourist there

Bob

pre 6 godina

Hey Vucic there’s nothing to compromised only thing you can compromised do recognize Kosovo independence and be over there is no way round for Serbia. If Serbia doesn’t recognize Kosovo independence nex step for Serbia is going to isolated from the world.

Taulant

pre 6 godina

"I am not pleased, because the Western powers are firmly committed to respect the preservation of the Kosovo's independence," Vucic said."

What more needs to be said? Anything else is just noise. To all the Serb nationalists, this is all you need to know. Your own president is telling you, but you are like the ostrich, you stick your head in the sand, and scream IT IS NOT SO!

sj

pre 6 godina

(ned taylor, 22 March 2018 20:52)

Ned you have a lot to learn. It’s never that easy. If its crossed off their list why even bother talking to Serbia? I certainly wouldn’t, but they try and put on that face. It’s not over by a long shot and they know it.

As far as Russia and North Korea being on their list, they try and portray their strength for people like you in the west and you believe it all.

The US of Piss and Wind cannot do a thing about NK or Russia. It’s all for show.

In their propaganda the west constantly refuses to mention that China is on the Russian side and that China and Russia have a defence pact. They hate bringing fact into a spin story. Much like these tariffs Trump announced against China – it will hurt China more that the US. What a load of horse manure.
Its as if the US is somehow impervious to everything from a huge debt or waging a trade war with China.

Clutches

pre 6 godina

You do have support from half the world Vucic, but unluckily it’s the wrong half considering your geographic location. If you keep this up, you’ll be a non-EU country surrounded by EU countries, and it won’t be a nice relationship like Switzerland with EU. Your party will be voted out of office due to the unsustainable levels of isolation you will experience.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

On this act and these words of intention, I support Vučić. Like Jerusalem, Kosovo may always be an historical place close to the hearts of many. "The World" would like peace, negotiation, settlement. If only this could be !

Genti

pre 6 godina

"We are trying to find a compromise solution, but the Albanian side is doing its job, and the international community its won."

Wow! It took the government 20 years to tell this to its people? You Serbs have some coward leaders, sticking their head in the sand and avoiding any responsibility. The war was lost in 1999, what did anyone in Serbia seriously expect? Just postponing the inevitable truth.
By the way, even when Serbia recognizes Kosovo (which I expect will happen before year-end) ZSO will NOT be implemented until the same Association is implemented in Serbia. Albanians will never accept anything other than reciprocity. Serbia has sucked Kosova's blood for centuries, we are not making any concession to Serbia.

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

@TitoReloaded

What about Greater/Natural/Bio/Obese-Albania?

You've just changed borders, so it makes change even more borders still an option.

Your solution does not solve anything. It just encourage the greater-albanianists.

I note that you have remained silent on Macedonia. Do you support splitting that up too and paring of parts to Kosovo and Albania?

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic talks about compromise but unfortunately the time for that is long since past. There is no rowing back from an independent Kosovo and much as those in the Balkans, and to an extent I myself, would like to think that the US and their allies care about the Serbia/Kosovo situation, they do not. In February 2008 it was crossed off the 'to do list' and consigned to the history books. The Korean peninsula and Russia are the only shows in town now.
(ned taylor, 22 March 2018 20:52)

@ Mr. taylor, lol, This is the Balkans!! There is ALWAYS "rowing back"...
Just when you think you're all set...BAM!!!! In the Balkans, preparation for war beins the moment the peace treaty is signed...But obviously, Mr. Taylor...you already knew that! LOL

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

(Guest, 22 March 2018 11:36)
@ guestaj - one problem, twit... it’s not America’s call!
It’s Putin’s backyard and if he says NYET, it’s NYET, got it?
(Watcher, 22 March 2018 12:21)

@watcher
Your so far up Putins rear end your basically blind to what is happening in reality!!!
He iis that powerful hmmm? Then Why hasn't your buddy Putin sent in his Spetsnaz units to Kosova yet?
Maybe that biker club nightwolves could shoot over to The Republic Of Kosova?
I would really like to see how they would be welcomed here on illirias land, I don't think they are that stupid to even try!!!

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@watcher
Your so far up Putins rear end your basically blind to what is happening in reality!!!
He iis that powerful hmmm? Then Why hasn't your buddy Putin sent in his Spetsnaz units to Kosova yet?
Maybe that biker club nightwolves could shoot over to The Republic Of Kosova?
I would really like to see how they would be welcomed here on illirias land, I don't think they are that stupid to even try!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 22 March 2018 17:05)
@ petey - ...and one more thing, I am not a fan of Vladimir Putin...I just see him as equal force of pushback to the tyranny of the West...a force that makes the West think today before going around raping and pillaging other smaller countries! They've finally run into a "just as big" wall and can't seem to come to terms with it!
It doesn't hurt that he does things per international law and calls out injustices everywhere...His existence allows a little guy like Srbija to give a big fat "FU" to the bullies of the west!
If he was on the side of "kosova", you would love him to death...or at least "kiss his ass" to death....

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

The Messiah, coming down from the mountain carrying a few stone tablets, will have an important broadcast orbi et urbi shortly.

I am waiting with a baited breath.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@watcher
Your so far up Putins rear end your basically blind to what is happening in reality!!!
He iis that powerful hmmm? Then Why hasn't your buddy Putin sent in his Spetsnaz units to Kosova yet?
Maybe that biker club nightwolves could shoot over to The Republic Of Kosova?
I would really like to see how they would be welcomed here on illirias land, I don't think they are that stupid to even try!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 22 March 2018 17:05)

@ petey - BG is telling Putin our future is in the EU, working & trading with all! Our destiny is not with Russia or USA, it's with EU, no matter how much I don't like it!
Not sure how you equate that to being up Putin's rear end? As far as the Spetsnaz and why he hasn't sent them into "kosova"...why would he?
He needs BG's permission to do so!

As far as the Night Wolves, why would they travel to "kosova" where they wouldn't be welcomed? Not sure why you think that's stupidity? Whats stupid is to try t intimidate them even if they were to choose to travel to Kosovo i Metohija..not that they couldn't handle any ruckus you dare throw at them...remember, they're not kids on a school bus that can be intimidated!

ned taylor

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic talks about compromise but unfortunately the time for that is long since past. There is no rowing back from an independent Kosovo and much as those in the Balkans, and to an extent I myself, would like to think that the US and their allies care about the Serbia/Kosovo situation, they do not. In February 2008 it was crossed off the 'to do list' and consigned to the history books. The Korean peninsula and Russia are the only shows in town now.

Who

pre 6 godina

sj, 23 March 2018 11:29)

sj you so smart, why don’t you teach vucic a little
Sounds like you can solve the ballcan problem 1,2,3 but instead you enjoy the western lifestyle and yap, and yap.

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

Nationalist thinking.
Kosovo Albanian nationalists 'we do not want the serbs, but the serbs in north kosovo shall stay with us.'
Serbian nationalists 'we do not want the kosovo albanians but they shall stay with us.'
You nationalistic guys are so similar to each other never mind from which nation you are.
Somehow it is classical nationalism. It is not about consence or logic, it is about having the power over the other group.

Genti

pre 6 godina

"the war is not over until Serbia says it is. Never underestimate us, many have and it cost them dearly!!!
(Mike Sujdovic, 23 March 2018 19:20)"

Hahaha, that's exactly what Milloshevic told the NATO commanders before they laughed at his face. A little later, the Serbian army ran away from Kosovo without a single NATO soldier setting foot there and Milloshevic ended up a depressed man in the Hague.

Your empty bravado doesn't fool anyone "Mike". Your statements are like balloons, all it takes is one little needle.

Luka

pre 6 godina

Can't you see Vucic!!!!!! they won't accept any compromise they are going to divide Serbia and then conquer. With this presidency Serbia is bound to die.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 6 godina

You are full of crap, Serbian troops never ran away. Clinton begged the Russians to broker a peace and the Ukranian Amb. was sent in to do so. The Serbian troops withdrew after U.N. Res 1244 said KOSOVO WILL REMAIN AN INTEGERAL PART OF SERBIA.
(Mike Sujdovic, 27 March 2018 07:05)

Does Clinton know about this?

ned taylor

pre 6 godina

SJ: I am under no illusion about the strength or lack thereof where the USA is concerned. I was simply pointing out that while the issues of Russia and North Korea continue to give Trump and his cronies problems, there will be very little time to be bothered about what Trump no doubt views as tin pot places like Kosovo/Serbia.

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

Tito reloaded - waiting to hear your version of a negotiated settlement....
(Watcher, 22 March 2018 12:15)
without emotions and ideology.
Split Kosovo put north to serbia and rest independent and presovo joins Kosovo. For the rest in enclaves can be done like turkey and greece did. It is brutal unhuman but will solve that conflict and nobody has to live with who he does not want.
2nd option Kosovo stays in/joins serbia and people there have immediatly 3 month visa for EU and join as one state EU. Ironic is the nationalists that destroyed Yugoslavia will all end up in a new federation called EU one day.
3rd now comes ideology. A revolution in Serbia and Kosovo against the mafias at power and the pepole that are stealing from the population. And create a new state Balkania. I prefer to first join EU and then a revolution of the proletariat for bratstvo i jedinstvo in EU. Russia can have a revolution too and can brotherly unite with the new EU.

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

@EU Dude
Did you read suggestion 2 and 3? One was reunite in peace. The other was a revolution in both areas serbia and kosovo and a new state called Balkania.

First answer somehow did not went through, so this one is shorter.

Bratstvo i jedinstvo

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

@Tito reloaded

You did not answer my question. That says a lot. That you even suggest a swap between northern Kosovo on Presevo. That also says a lot. Your suggestions are very limited and artificial, without regards to the consequences.

Guest

pre 6 godina

Long story short, America told Vucic to suck it up and that Kosovo is as much yours as Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia etc. Just because you stripped Kosovo of its autonomy before the war, does not mean that it wasn’t an autonomous self governing entity like the other republics within Yugoslavia during Titos time. Kosovo is not your historical home, as the oldest churches in the land were built by the Roman Empire and converted to Serbian Orthodox churches during the dying days of the Empire, all the way through the Ottoman Empire. You have no legacy in the Balkans, all ancient pottery, sites and skeletons have nothing to do with you. They all carry an Illyro-Thracian/Hellenic legacy. The oldest skeletons found in the Balkans all have a genetic composition matching that of Greeks, Albanians, Romanians and Italians, yet they have little to no match with southern Slavs. History is not on your side and neither is the international community. Slavs are no different to the Middle Eastern Arabs who believe everything they touch is theirs because they say so and scream and shout till they get what they want. The only historical home you have is The Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. On a side note Kosovo would mean nothing to the Serbian government if it wasn’t full of untapped natural resources, let’s be honest it’s all about money and nothing else.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

How many times they have to tell him “ it’s over”
If he haven’t heard the fat lady sing , at least he got to see the fat boy belly dance, and sing for her .It’s over serbs, next step is the Army .

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Recognition in exchange of ZSO.
Serbia should take it because the next offer will be worse.
Time to look forward and move on!

Smart Serb

pre 6 godina

Kosovo* is a Province and has never been a Republic within Yugoslavia.
With the support from China, India, Russia, Brazil, Indonesia and Israel not to mention the other nations who are not bought by dirty money, Serbia has more bargaining power than these cockroaches know.
Why is the west pushing and forcing Serbia if the independence issue is settled???
It isn't settled, the propaganda spread by the U.S is failing miserably.
Long live Serbia!!!!!

Gjakova

pre 6 godina

Yep its over. Year 2030 and you will still be posting the same comments and talking about an army LOL.
(sj, 22 March 2018 10:33)

SJ ,

1. yesterday Kosovo played in Serbia Handball against Serbian team U19, something you enver thought it will be in 1999.
2. Serbian List gave a vote for border between Kosovo and Montenegro to be set, which in UN will be Between Kosovo and Montenegro.
3. 2030 you will be maybe gone as you are old delusional but Serbia will have 1Million people less.

Why is he going to NY to beg then :)

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

On this act and these words of intention, I support Vučić. Like Jerusalem, Kosovo may always be an historical place close to the hearts of many. "The World" would like peace, negotiation, settlement. If only this could be !
(Betsy Lalich, 22 March 2018 13:48)


Just like in Jerusalem, you can go to Kosova, make sure you have the passport and you can visit it . They like tourist there

Watcher

pre 6 godina

On a side note Kosovo would mean nothing to the Serbian government if it wasn’t full of untapped natural resources, let’s be honest it’s all about money and nothing else.
(Guest, 22 March 2018 11:36)
@ guestaj - one problem, twit... it’s not America’s call!
It’s Putin’s backyard and if he says NYET, it’s NYET, got it?

Bob

pre 6 godina

Hey Vucic there’s nothing to compromised only thing you can compromised do recognize Kosovo independence and be over there is no way round for Serbia. If Serbia doesn’t recognize Kosovo independence nex step for Serbia is going to isolated from the world.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

(Guest, 22 March 2018 11:36)
@ guestaj - one problem, twit... it’s not America’s call!
It’s Putin’s backyard and if he says NYET, it’s NYET, got it?
(Watcher, 22 March 2018 12:21)

@watcher
Your so far up Putins rear end your basically blind to what is happening in reality!!!
He iis that powerful hmmm? Then Why hasn't your buddy Putin sent in his Spetsnaz units to Kosova yet?
Maybe that biker club nightwolves could shoot over to The Republic Of Kosova?
I would really like to see how they would be welcomed here on illirias land, I don't think they are that stupid to even try!!!

sj

pre 6 godina

How many times they have to tell him “ it’s over”
If he haven’t heard the fat lady sing , at least he got to see the fat boy belly dance, and sing for her .It’s over serbs, next step is the Army .
(Albanian American, 21 March 2018 22:29)

Yep its over. Year 2030 and you will still be posting the same comments and talking about an army LOL.

Clutches

pre 6 godina

You do have support from half the world Vucic, but unluckily it’s the wrong half considering your geographic location. If you keep this up, you’ll be a non-EU country surrounded by EU countries, and it won’t be a nice relationship like Switzerland with EU. Your party will be voted out of office due to the unsustainable levels of isolation you will experience.

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

Tito reloaded - waiting to hear your version of a negotiated settlement....
(Watcher, 22 March 2018 12:15)
without emotions and ideology.
Split Kosovo put north to serbia and rest independent and presovo joins Kosovo. For the rest in enclaves can be done like turkey and greece did. It is brutal unhuman but will solve that conflict and nobody has to live with who he does not want.
2nd option Kosovo stays in/joins serbia and people there have immediatly 3 month visa for EU and join as one state EU. Ironic is the nationalists that destroyed Yugoslavia will all end up in a new federation called EU one day.
3rd now comes ideology. A revolution in Serbia and Kosovo against the mafias at power and the pepole that are stealing from the population. And create a new state Balkania. I prefer to first join EU and then a revolution of the proletariat for bratstvo i jedinstvo in EU. Russia can have a revolution too and can brotherly unite with the new EU.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 6 godina

You are full of crap, Serbian troops never ran away. Clinton begged the Russians to broker a peace and the Ukranian Amb. was sent in to do so. The Serbian troops withdrew after U.N. Res 1244 said KOSOVO WILL REMAIN AN INTEGERAL PART OF SERBIA.
(Mike Sujdovic, 27 March 2018 07:05)

Does Clinton know about this?

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

The Messiah, coming down from the mountain carrying a few stone tablets, will have an important broadcast orbi et urbi shortly.

I am waiting with a baited breath.

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

Nationalist thinking.
Kosovo Albanian nationalists 'we do not want the serbs, but the serbs in north kosovo shall stay with us.'
Serbian nationalists 'we do not want the kosovo albanians but they shall stay with us.'
You nationalistic guys are so similar to each other never mind from which nation you are.
Somehow it is classical nationalism. It is not about consence or logic, it is about having the power over the other group.

ned taylor

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic talks about compromise but unfortunately the time for that is long since past. There is no rowing back from an independent Kosovo and much as those in the Balkans, and to an extent I myself, would like to think that the US and their allies care about the Serbia/Kosovo situation, they do not. In February 2008 it was crossed off the 'to do list' and consigned to the history books. The Korean peninsula and Russia are the only shows in town now.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

How many times they have to tell him “ it’s over”
If he haven’t heard the fat lady sing , at least he got to see the fat boy belly dance, and sing for her .It’s over serbs, next step is the Army .
(Albanian American, 21 March 2018 22:29)

@alb amerikan - you been saying that for how long now? Lol
Over? It’s just beginning sweetheart, ;)

Genti

pre 6 godina

"We are trying to find a compromise solution, but the Albanian side is doing its job, and the international community its won."

Wow! It took the government 20 years to tell this to its people? You Serbs have some coward leaders, sticking their head in the sand and avoiding any responsibility. The war was lost in 1999, what did anyone in Serbia seriously expect? Just postponing the inevitable truth.
By the way, even when Serbia recognizes Kosovo (which I expect will happen before year-end) ZSO will NOT be implemented until the same Association is implemented in Serbia. Albanians will never accept anything other than reciprocity. Serbia has sucked Kosova's blood for centuries, we are not making any concession to Serbia.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

In other words, nothing has changed. The west still trying to push through a failed agenda. The world has changed though, the more pressure they put on Serbia, the larger the divisions will emerge within themselves. I don't think Spain will accept forced pressure to recognise Kosovo. Catalonia is far too important.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

STOP WAISTING SERBIAN TIME ON MEETING WITH THE CARROT AND STICK. MAKE EFFORT TO FORM PAN ORTHODOX BALKAN CONFERDERATION. ALSO, FORMING NEW TRADING PARTNERS.

Who

pre 6 godina

sj, 23 March 2018 11:29)

sj you so smart, why don’t you teach vucic a little
Sounds like you can solve the ballcan problem 1,2,3 but instead you enjoy the western lifestyle and yap, and yap.

Genti

pre 6 godina

"the war is not over until Serbia says it is. Never underestimate us, many have and it cost them dearly!!!
(Mike Sujdovic, 23 March 2018 19:20)"

Hahaha, that's exactly what Milloshevic told the NATO commanders before they laughed at his face. A little later, the Serbian army ran away from Kosovo without a single NATO soldier setting foot there and Milloshevic ended up a depressed man in the Hague.

Your empty bravado doesn't fool anyone "Mike". Your statements are like balloons, all it takes is one little needle.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Oh, my poor, little Albos... you just don't get it, even it if hit you in the head like a meteor. The Serbs DON'T have to join the EU!!! There are some benefits, and there are some consequences, but the Serbs DON'T have to join if they choose not to do so. We're self sufficient and we have other partners globally, as well as some EU members, for commerce, trade and support. Pretty sure that it behoves the EU to make concessions to Serbia to keep them in harmony with Europe, and maybe a little further from the East. Sit tight, and the longer Serbia waits, the more benefits they'll reap. On the other hand, KiM Albo's need hand outs and every type of support they can get, and they'll bend over to anyone that will provide it.

Taulant

pre 6 godina

"I am not pleased, because the Western powers are firmly committed to respect the preservation of the Kosovo's independence," Vucic said."

What more needs to be said? Anything else is just noise. To all the Serb nationalists, this is all you need to know. Your own president is telling you, but you are like the ostrich, you stick your head in the sand, and scream IT IS NOT SO!

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@watcher
Your so far up Putins rear end your basically blind to what is happening in reality!!!
He iis that powerful hmmm? Then Why hasn't your buddy Putin sent in his Spetsnaz units to Kosova yet?
Maybe that biker club nightwolves could shoot over to The Republic Of Kosova?
I would really like to see how they would be welcomed here on illirias land, I don't think they are that stupid to even try!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 22 March 2018 17:05)
@ petey - ...and one more thing, I am not a fan of Vladimir Putin...I just see him as equal force of pushback to the tyranny of the West...a force that makes the West think today before going around raping and pillaging other smaller countries! They've finally run into a "just as big" wall and can't seem to come to terms with it!
It doesn't hurt that he does things per international law and calls out injustices everywhere...His existence allows a little guy like Srbija to give a big fat "FU" to the bullies of the west!
If he was on the side of "kosova", you would love him to death...or at least "kiss his ass" to death....

sj

pre 6 godina

(ned taylor, 22 March 2018 20:52)

Ned you have a lot to learn. It’s never that easy. If its crossed off their list why even bother talking to Serbia? I certainly wouldn’t, but they try and put on that face. It’s not over by a long shot and they know it.

As far as Russia and North Korea being on their list, they try and portray their strength for people like you in the west and you believe it all.

The US of Piss and Wind cannot do a thing about NK or Russia. It’s all for show.

In their propaganda the west constantly refuses to mention that China is on the Russian side and that China and Russia have a defence pact. They hate bringing fact into a spin story. Much like these tariffs Trump announced against China – it will hurt China more that the US. What a load of horse manure.
Its as if the US is somehow impervious to everything from a huge debt or waging a trade war with China.

ned taylor

pre 6 godina

SJ: I am under no illusion about the strength or lack thereof where the USA is concerned. I was simply pointing out that while the issues of Russia and North Korea continue to give Trump and his cronies problems, there will be very little time to be bothered about what Trump no doubt views as tin pot places like Kosovo/Serbia.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Nationalist thinking.
Kosovo Albanian nationalists 'we do not want the serbs, but the serbs in north kosovo shall stay with us.'
Serbian nationalists 'we do not want the kosovo albanians but they shall stay with us.'
You nationalistic guys are so similar to each other never mind from which nation you are.
Somehow it is classical nationalism. It is not about consence or logic, it is about having the power over the other group.
(Tito reloaded, 22 March 2018 11:30)

@ Tito reloaded - waiting to hear your version of a negotiated settlement....

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

On this act and these words of intention, I support Vučić. Like Jerusalem, Kosovo may always be an historical place close to the hearts of many. "The World" would like peace, negotiation, settlement. If only this could be !

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@watcher
Your so far up Putins rear end your basically blind to what is happening in reality!!!
He iis that powerful hmmm? Then Why hasn't your buddy Putin sent in his Spetsnaz units to Kosova yet?
Maybe that biker club nightwolves could shoot over to The Republic Of Kosova?
I would really like to see how they would be welcomed here on illirias land, I don't think they are that stupid to even try!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 22 March 2018 17:05)

@ petey - BG is telling Putin our future is in the EU, working & trading with all! Our destiny is not with Russia or USA, it's with EU, no matter how much I don't like it!
Not sure how you equate that to being up Putin's rear end? As far as the Spetsnaz and why he hasn't sent them into "kosova"...why would he?
He needs BG's permission to do so!

As far as the Night Wolves, why would they travel to "kosova" where they wouldn't be welcomed? Not sure why you think that's stupidity? Whats stupid is to try t intimidate them even if they were to choose to travel to Kosovo i Metohija..not that they couldn't handle any ruckus you dare throw at them...remember, they're not kids on a school bus that can be intimidated!

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

@Genti: I beg to differ, the battle may or may not of been lost, however the war is not over until Serbia says it is. Never underestimate us, many have and it cost them dearly!!!

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

@TitoReloaded

What about Greater/Natural/Bio/Obese-Albania?

You've just changed borders, so it makes change even more borders still an option.

Your solution does not solve anything. It just encourage the greater-albanianists.

I note that you have remained silent on Macedonia. Do you support splitting that up too and paring of parts to Kosovo and Albania?

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

@EU Dude
Did you read suggestion 2 and 3? One was reunite in peace. The other was a revolution in both areas serbia and kosovo and a new state called Balkania.

First answer somehow did not went through, so this one is shorter.

Bratstvo i jedinstvo

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic talks about compromise but unfortunately the time for that is long since past. There is no rowing back from an independent Kosovo and much as those in the Balkans, and to an extent I myself, would like to think that the US and their allies care about the Serbia/Kosovo situation, they do not. In February 2008 it was crossed off the 'to do list' and consigned to the history books. The Korean peninsula and Russia are the only shows in town now.
(ned taylor, 22 March 2018 20:52)

@ Mr. taylor, lol, This is the Balkans!! There is ALWAYS "rowing back"...
Just when you think you're all set...BAM!!!! In the Balkans, preparation for war beins the moment the peace treaty is signed...But obviously, Mr. Taylor...you already knew that! LOL

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

@Tito reloaded

You did not answer my question. That says a lot. That you even suggest a swap between northern Kosovo on Presevo. That also says a lot. Your suggestions are very limited and artificial, without regards to the consequences.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

@genti

You are full of crap, Serbian troops never ran away. Clinton begged the Russians to broker a peace and the Ukranian Amb. was sent in to do so. The Serbian troops withdrew after U.N. Res 1244 said KOSOVO WILL REMAIN AN INTEGERAL PART OF SERBIA.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

Clinton knows this very well even though he will not admit it, just like he knows he is a rapist and will not admit it. He also knows that at least 25 people he was associated with have been murdered or died mysteriously so they cannot testify afainst him, nor will he admit to that either. He has lots in common with Albo leadership.

Luka

pre 6 godina

Can't you see Vucic!!!!!! they won't accept any compromise they are going to divide Serbia and then conquer. With this presidency Serbia is bound to die.