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Tuesday, 27.02.2018.

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Dacic: Form ZSO - or my signature's off Brussels agreement

Ivica Dacic says he is prepared to take his signature off the Brussels agreement unless Pristina forms the Community of Serb Municipalities (ZSO) in Kosovo.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

take out your calculator and see if its possible for the US to pay off its debt? GDP needs to grow at more than 20% to even have a possibility for that debt to be paid down;
(Jugoslavija, 1 March 2018 18:06)

Yeah, according to the calculator, the US has more total assets than total liabilities, and therefore is able to pay its debt (whether the GDP grows at 20% or not). That is also confirmed by China or Russia (unless you consider the Chinese or the Russians idiots who don't know basic math).

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

What you don't want to understand is that it doesn't matter how much debt a country carries, what maters is the ability to pay that debt. The USA has that unique ability.
(The Count of Kosova, 1 March 2018 02:35) # Co

You need to change your name , you obviously can't count. Clown of Kosovo is so much better. Did you take the Pristina Economics course from ICJ? Its called the law of diminishing returns, take out your calculator and see if its possible for the US to pay off its debt? GDP needs to grow at more than 20% to even have a possibility for that debt to be paid down; the US Reserve will of course not tell its gullible populous that the road to bankruptcy is going to be accelerated with rising interest rates. I hate to say it, but would rather take the current Albania low debt any day over the USA smoke and mirrors economy.

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 1 March 2018 02:35)

Well, back to the future boy, you can’t get away from 1999 like a broken record LOL.

There is no point in showing you why you’re talking through your hat, but simply say that the US is kept afloat by the petro dollar. The outcome of that little tussle in Syria will decide the fate of the US.

Note that delegations from Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait are now going direct to Moscow not Washington. Even Israel is by passing Washington and going direct to Moscow. Russia has become the only power in the Middle East. Moscow will be the only power supplying gas and oil to Europe. Sorry but it’s true. I told you that Moscow will rule Europe.

The US is not capable of repaying that debt and it only pays interest on the current $20.6 trillion. Money is lent to China, Russia and EU. But not one has a horrendous debt like the US.

You need to break that 1999, cold war or Soviet Union cycle. The Soviet Union is gone; your stuck in the past.

Its February 2018 not 1999.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

@ sj

Hey Captain Obvious,
Yes, in 1999 the US debt was $4 trillion, if you recall that was the year NATO spent a bit of pocket change bombing a sorry ass country called Serbia.

What you don't want to understand is that it doesn't matter how much debt a country carries, what maters is the ability to pay that debt. The USA has that unique ability. That is why most any country would gladly loan the US any amount, knowing the loan is backed by the highest debt rating, that of the USA.

btw, The USA has the unique ability to feed the rest of the world. In fact, during the Cold War the US feed the Soviet Union. In case you don't know, let me edify you, the rump Soviet Union is now known as Russia. And yes, Putin was one of those poor Russians that the USA kept from starving.

ivan

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic is correct when he says “in any negotiation both sides have to feel they have won”
Assuming in 2025 the EU still exists here are the options
1. Northern Kosovo to Serbia
2. The Southern terretory to Albania
No other changes
This would allow Serbia to join without having to deal with recognition issue
The EU would like it because it would allow Serbia to join,which is in their interest, and isolate the Albanians which is also in the interest of the EU
(Sam D, 28 February 2018 04:03)

Wishful thinking buddy! Kosovo is still within the Constitution therefore it would be treason to give it way. Back to the old formula, greater autonomy short of independence. We get to control our borders and resources and the albos get go play in the traffic

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Here we go:


Will Mogherini decapitate Kosovo?
http://guests.blogactiv.eu/2018/02/27/will-mogherini-decapitate-kosovo/

.....This court was established in 2015 to hear the allegations contained in the so-called ‘Marty report’, published by the Council of Europe in late 2010. After some hesitation, the main Western powers chose to take it seriously. In September 2011 the EU established a Special Investigative Task Force (SITF) to conduct a ‘full-scale investigation’ into the report. Its conclusions were unveiled on 29 July 2014.

SITF declared that its findings were ‘largely consistent’ with the Marty report (including on the claim that the KLA financed itself also by harvesting organs from selected prisoners, who were murdered in the process, to sell them on the international black market: SITF found evidence of ‘a few’ such cases, but failed to identify the culprits)....

see the link for the rest

njegos

pre 6 godina

From icj1: "That's a "fact" that few people, if any, are aware about, dear!"

Since when did you become the spokeswoman for all of the people icj1? Just because you aren't unaware of something that is obvious to others, doesn't mean they are as ignorant as you dear. I think you should thank sj for helping to educate you on yet another subject. I see the education of icj1 continues.

sj

pre 6 godina

The simple fact is that Kosovo* is an illegal narco entity that's run by gangsters and organ traffickers.
(Truth hurts, 27 February 2018 11:04)

That's a "fact" that few people, if any, are aware about, dear!
(icj1, 28 February 2018 04:11)

Wrong again dear. In fact Kosovo is known to be a major exporter of narcotics even by the Australian Federal Police let alone the constabulary in Europe.

You should read up on the subjects before posting because it makes you look ludicrous.

sj

pre 6 godina

(dan, 27 February 2018 14:41)

That’s the problem, people like you don’t see they only listen to what they are being told, lap it up and repeat it ad nauseum. Today, the US has only three combat ready brigades – 15,000 troops. The US Navy has 278 ships, but it needs 355.

The US Air Force needs 1200 fighters but only has 923 and most equipment is too old so cannibalisation of aircraft to make others airworthy is a regular practise. It's short of 1000 pilots and 3000 maintenance workers. Pilot experience is at historic lows. As far as the US being a superpower that was finished in Iraq.

It only bombs small defenceless nations. Why don’t they try a real challenge like Russia or China LOL?????

In 1999, the US debt was $4 trillion, today at this moment its $20.6 trillion and $21.5 trillion by December. The US economy $19 trillion but $12 trillion of that is printed money – the economy is bloated. Trump is handing out tax cuts using borrowed money – that’s like cutting one’s nose off to spite one’s face.

One more thing. China is the World No1 economy and has been since September 2014. Bet they don’t mention that one.

All this information is there but you must know where to look for it.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Mark.W, 27 February 2018 16:17)

Croatia did not resolve border issues with Slovenia, Bosnia, Montenegro or Serbia yet it was accepted into the EU. The most difficult is with Serbia because the real borders are not on the Danube. Those are artificial ones that Tito drew up and are not internationally recognised.

I find it amazing that people think that joining the EU there is an endless supply of money. Those days have faded. The EU economy has not improved so Brussels continues to print money plus the UK leaving is creating big problems – too many asking for handouts not enough putting into the fund. Croatia puts into the EU fund 1 billion Euros and takes out 3 billion

Sam D

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic is correct when he says “in any negotiation both sides have to feel they have won”
Assuming in 2025 the EU still exists here are the options
1. Northern Kosovo to Serbia
2. The Southern terretory to Albania
No other changes
This would allow Serbia to join without having to deal with recognition issue
The EU would like it because it would allow Serbia to join,which is in their interest, and isolate the Albanians which is also in the interest of the EU

icj1

pre 6 godina

The simple fact is that Kosovo* is an illegal narco entity that's run by gangsters and organ traffickers.
(Truth hurts, 27 February 2018 11:04)

That's a "fact" that few people, if any, are aware about, dear!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The EU is always learning from its past mistakes, so this is its answer to fix it for good. This mistake won't be repeated again, that's for sure. Just tough luck for Serbia.
(Contractor, 27 February 2018 10:51)
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No, they are making excuses, changing goal posts or trying to demoralize Serbia as much as they can.
Maybe all three.

You see, if after all these decades they are still learning then they are incapable of learning.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

If they can't get accustomed to these new ways of life in Kosova then they are free to leave if they choose so, it is up to them to choose!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 27 February 2018 14:31)
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So these are the rules for Serbs.
Now what are the rules for Albanians who have committed crimes against Serbs? They need to leave?
What there are no Albanians with blood on their hands?

Sasa from near Jagodina

pre 6 godina

what about Slovenia and Croatia?"

They are the bad examples. That's why the EU does'n need any more open conflicts. So you can thank Slovenia and Croatia for the stricter entry criteria. The EU is always learning from its past mistakes, so this is its answer to fix it for good. This mistake won't be repeated again, that's for sure. Just tough luck for Serbia.
(Contractor, 27 February 2018 10:51

What about Cyprus? They to have a land dispute , SO you are wrong and EU didn't learn ))
It will depend how hard do Serbs want to join and how hard EU wants them to join) )

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Sj what difference is between 90s and 2018 can you explain? I see no difference the USA is still the only superpower on this world and bombs countrys every day do you have insider information? LOL
(dan, 27 February 2018 14:41)

@danaj - that’s the problem...you don’t see!

Watcher KHH8S

pre 6 godina

Well, one can go through life asking why why why all the time, or you can just get on with it. If you think that EU is going to care much about some confused and hormonal fatso FM who thinks that his words should be taken seriously, you obviously don’t know how the EU works. Instead of trying to dance around recognition, the only thing you can do is to just accept it. You’re in no position to bargain, there’s simply no room for it. Furthermore, your comparisons are faulty. Croatia-Slovenia border dispute is over technical slivers of territory, not an entire region that most of EU considers a country. And there was no genocide in Catalonia, so Madrid cannot he treated like a genocide perpetrator. But Belgrade can.
(Irony, 27 February 2018 16:19)

@ Ironaj - 😂😂 disslusional... at best! 😂

Watcher

pre 6 godina

what a clown this dacic is serbia is one of the poorest countrys in europe and he want to mess with EC president or foreign minister of germany or USA what a joke LOL
(dan, 27 February 2018 11:58)

@danaj - however, Srbija is a country;) know what I mean, homer? 😂

Roger7

pre 6 godina

Petie the Pebble responds to Victory1999 LOL!! The middle aged Canadian Serb, B92s resident troll, is replying to his own comments. This trool makes 90% of the comments on B92 and now he carries on conversations with himself. Really weird.

njegos

pre 6 godina

From Azir: "Slavs can never be Indigenous to Kosova or any other Shqiptare ancestral homelands..."

You have quite an imagination for an unemployed doorman from the Bronx. Perhaps you should spend more time looking for a job on the internet rather than trolling Serbian web sites.

Irony

pre 6 godina

Well, one can go through life asking why why why all the time, or you can just get on with it. If you think that EU is going to care much about some confused and hormonal fatso FM who thinks that his words should be taken seriously, you obviously don’t know how the EU works. Instead of trying to dance around recognition, the only thing you can do is to just accept it. You’re in no position to bargain, there’s simply no room for it. Furthermore, your comparisons are faulty. Croatia-Slovenia border dispute is over technical slivers of territory, not an entire region that most of EU considers a country. And there was no genocide in Catalonia, so Madrid cannot he treated like a genocide perpetrator. But Belgrade can.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Nejgos:

Dacic and his family were settlers in Kosova that relocated because of Serbia’s Colonization Program of providing financial incentives to populate Kosova to be used as a bargain chip and excuse to exploit our natural resources as in Trepca...

Slavs can never be Indigenous to Kosova or any other Shqiptare ancestral homelands...

Especially Serb settlers and war refugees!

Serbs have Serbia and Russia to select from.

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Brussels refusing to keep up its end of the bargain? Why am I not surprised? As I've written many times before, Brussels is very flexible with its rules when it suits it, which is why it is a joke.

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

@sj


I know there are those who are going to point to the Croatian/Slovenian border issue. The difference is that the disputed land is 50 to 100 meters either way and involve 35 families plus the water boundary.

While in Kosovo the border line is a difference of an extra 10,900 km2 land that would be part of the EU and an extra 2 million citizens not 35 families.
Those extra citizens would mean extra Members of European Parliament for Serbia ( more then the 6 minimum) plus extra funds from the EU.

The differences between an internal border within the EU is a lot different between an external one that involves 2 million people.

Vratnica

pre 6 godina

Azir

You guys are not indigenous to the presevo valley. Many of those families are from eastern kosovo, who originated from Ljume. Others came from Nis, after having lived there for a very short period....some of those families were out of Pec area. You guys were turkish slaves, who sold their religion in order to become landowners over stolen land.

dan

pre 6 godina

Sj what difference is between 90s and 2018 can you explain? I see no difference the USA is still the only superpower on this world and bombs countrys every day do you have insider information? LOL

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

(Truth hurt)

The only truth that hurts is that you lost Kosovo forever and it was fun kicking 200 000 serbs out Kosovo and taking their property. It all belong to us now. serbia is one of the poorest and least developed country in europe and yet they think that they are a superpower. HA!

And forget about zso, no one wants you in Kosovo to begin with.
(Victory1999, 27 February 2018 13:15)

Victory1999, I'm not sure how to brand you, a veiled Serb impostoring as an Albanian or a Albanian in the very small minority with that way of thinking???

All Serbs civilians who lived in Kosova with clean hands that haven't committed crimes against the population of The Republic Of Kosova are free to live in Kosova, period!
However they should prepare themselves and become accustom to following a new way of life one which demands from them that they follow Kosovan laws and help protect the interest of The Republic Of Kosova!

If they can't get accustomed to these new ways of life in Kosova then they are free to leave if they choose so, it is up to them to choose!

Azir

pre 6 godina

Dacic the ignorant Milosevic protege threatens to cancel his worthless signature?

When Trump allows Zso for the serb settlers in Chicago and
Serbia does same from indigenous Albanians in Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanic then Dacic might have a leg to stand on until then NO!

Dacic is a loser that loves to celebrate ex 1389...

Avni

pre 6 godina

Who's stopping you? This guy can't keep his mouth shut for a day. One day he says EU doesn't know what Serbian "inat" is, next day says EU wants us to commit "harakiri", now this 😀

njegos

pre 6 godina

I never thought I'd say this, but thank god for Dacic. He's the only one who will stand up to the EU and the international community. Enough is enough and Dacic is willing to say that. Don't forget Dacic was born in Kosovo. I guess according to the hard line Kosovo Albanians on this board, that makes him indigenous.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

(Truth hurt)

The only truth that hurts is that you lost Kosovo forever and it was fun kicking 200 000 serbs out Kosovo and taking their property. It all belong to us now. serbia is one of the poorest and least developed country in europe and yet they think that they are a superpower. HA!

And forget about zso, no one wants you in Kosovo to begin with.

sj

pre 6 godina

what a clown this dacic is serbia is one of the poorest countrys in europe and he want to mess with EC president or foreign minister of germany or USA what a joke LOL
(dan, 27 February 2018 11:58)

Yes, he does want to mess with the EC President, Germany and US. No, it’s no joke. People must realise that this is 2018 not the 1990s.

Serbia is putting pressure on all and they will buckle LOL. Watch and learn boys.

Truth hurts

pre 6 godina

The EU is full of hypocrisy and double standards. The simple fact is that Kosovo* is an illegal narco entity that's run by gangsters and organ traffickers.

dan

pre 6 godina

what a clown this dacic is serbia is one of the poorest countrys in europe and he want to mess with EC president or foreign minister of germany or USA what a joke LOL

sj

pre 6 godina

Opps Dacic is asking some very unpleasant questions.

For those that think that allowing in Croatia and Slovenia was a mistake they dont want to repeat, let me just say that's BS. The EU knew very well about Croat and Slovene border issues, but they were so eager to get them in they did not care.

I'm glad to see the Serbs finally throwing spanners in the EU machinery and its about time.

Contractor

pre 6 godina

"what about Slovenia and Croatia?"

They are the bad examples. That's why the EU does'n need any more open conflicts. So you can thank Slovenia and Croatia for the stricter entry criteria. The EU is always learning from its past mistakes, so this is its answer to fix it for good. This mistake won't be repeated again, that's for sure. Just tough luck for Serbia.

Truth hurts

pre 6 godina

The EU is full of hypocrisy and double standards. The simple fact is that Kosovo* is an illegal narco entity that's run by gangsters and organ traffickers.

sj

pre 6 godina

Opps Dacic is asking some very unpleasant questions.

For those that think that allowing in Croatia and Slovenia was a mistake they dont want to repeat, let me just say that's BS. The EU knew very well about Croat and Slovene border issues, but they were so eager to get them in they did not care.

I'm glad to see the Serbs finally throwing spanners in the EU machinery and its about time.

njegos

pre 6 godina

I never thought I'd say this, but thank god for Dacic. He's the only one who will stand up to the EU and the international community. Enough is enough and Dacic is willing to say that. Don't forget Dacic was born in Kosovo. I guess according to the hard line Kosovo Albanians on this board, that makes him indigenous.

Vratnica

pre 6 godina

Azir

You guys are not indigenous to the presevo valley. Many of those families are from eastern kosovo, who originated from Ljume. Others came from Nis, after having lived there for a very short period....some of those families were out of Pec area. You guys were turkish slaves, who sold their religion in order to become landowners over stolen land.

sj

pre 6 godina

what a clown this dacic is serbia is one of the poorest countrys in europe and he want to mess with EC president or foreign minister of germany or USA what a joke LOL
(dan, 27 February 2018 11:58)

Yes, he does want to mess with the EC President, Germany and US. No, it’s no joke. People must realise that this is 2018 not the 1990s.

Serbia is putting pressure on all and they will buckle LOL. Watch and learn boys.

dan

pre 6 godina

what a clown this dacic is serbia is one of the poorest countrys in europe and he want to mess with EC president or foreign minister of germany or USA what a joke LOL

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

(Truth hurt)

The only truth that hurts is that you lost Kosovo forever and it was fun kicking 200 000 serbs out Kosovo and taking their property. It all belong to us now. serbia is one of the poorest and least developed country in europe and yet they think that they are a superpower. HA!

And forget about zso, no one wants you in Kosovo to begin with.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

(Truth hurt)

The only truth that hurts is that you lost Kosovo forever and it was fun kicking 200 000 serbs out Kosovo and taking their property. It all belong to us now. serbia is one of the poorest and least developed country in europe and yet they think that they are a superpower. HA!

And forget about zso, no one wants you in Kosovo to begin with.
(Victory1999, 27 February 2018 13:15)

Victory1999, I'm not sure how to brand you, a veiled Serb impostoring as an Albanian or a Albanian in the very small minority with that way of thinking???

All Serbs civilians who lived in Kosova with clean hands that haven't committed crimes against the population of The Republic Of Kosova are free to live in Kosova, period!
However they should prepare themselves and become accustom to following a new way of life one which demands from them that they follow Kosovan laws and help protect the interest of The Republic Of Kosova!

If they can't get accustomed to these new ways of life in Kosova then they are free to leave if they choose so, it is up to them to choose!

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Brussels refusing to keep up its end of the bargain? Why am I not surprised? As I've written many times before, Brussels is very flexible with its rules when it suits it, which is why it is a joke.

njegos

pre 6 godina

From Azir: "Slavs can never be Indigenous to Kosova or any other Shqiptare ancestral homelands..."

You have quite an imagination for an unemployed doorman from the Bronx. Perhaps you should spend more time looking for a job on the internet rather than trolling Serbian web sites.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Who's stopping you? This guy can't keep his mouth shut for a day. One day he says EU doesn't know what Serbian "inat" is, next day says EU wants us to commit "harakiri", now this 😀

Azir

pre 6 godina

Dacic the ignorant Milosevic protege threatens to cancel his worthless signature?

When Trump allows Zso for the serb settlers in Chicago and
Serbia does same from indigenous Albanians in Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanic then Dacic might have a leg to stand on until then NO!

Dacic is a loser that loves to celebrate ex 1389...

Azir

pre 6 godina

Nejgos:

Dacic and his family were settlers in Kosova that relocated because of Serbia’s Colonization Program of providing financial incentives to populate Kosova to be used as a bargain chip and excuse to exploit our natural resources as in Trepca...

Slavs can never be Indigenous to Kosova or any other Shqiptare ancestral homelands...

Especially Serb settlers and war refugees!

Serbs have Serbia and Russia to select from.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

If they can't get accustomed to these new ways of life in Kosova then they are free to leave if they choose so, it is up to them to choose!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 27 February 2018 14:31)
======================
So these are the rules for Serbs.
Now what are the rules for Albanians who have committed crimes against Serbs? They need to leave?
What there are no Albanians with blood on their hands?

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The EU is always learning from its past mistakes, so this is its answer to fix it for good. This mistake won't be repeated again, that's for sure. Just tough luck for Serbia.
(Contractor, 27 February 2018 10:51)
==========================
No, they are making excuses, changing goal posts or trying to demoralize Serbia as much as they can.
Maybe all three.

You see, if after all these decades they are still learning then they are incapable of learning.

sj

pre 6 godina

(dan, 27 February 2018 14:41)

That’s the problem, people like you don’t see they only listen to what they are being told, lap it up and repeat it ad nauseum. Today, the US has only three combat ready brigades – 15,000 troops. The US Navy has 278 ships, but it needs 355.

The US Air Force needs 1200 fighters but only has 923 and most equipment is too old so cannibalisation of aircraft to make others airworthy is a regular practise. It's short of 1000 pilots and 3000 maintenance workers. Pilot experience is at historic lows. As far as the US being a superpower that was finished in Iraq.

It only bombs small defenceless nations. Why don’t they try a real challenge like Russia or China LOL?????

In 1999, the US debt was $4 trillion, today at this moment its $20.6 trillion and $21.5 trillion by December. The US economy $19 trillion but $12 trillion of that is printed money – the economy is bloated. Trump is handing out tax cuts using borrowed money – that’s like cutting one’s nose off to spite one’s face.

One more thing. China is the World No1 economy and has been since September 2014. Bet they don’t mention that one.

All this information is there but you must know where to look for it.

njegos

pre 6 godina

From icj1: "That's a "fact" that few people, if any, are aware about, dear!"

Since when did you become the spokeswoman for all of the people icj1? Just because you aren't unaware of something that is obvious to others, doesn't mean they are as ignorant as you dear. I think you should thank sj for helping to educate you on yet another subject. I see the education of icj1 continues.

Contractor

pre 6 godina

"what about Slovenia and Croatia?"

They are the bad examples. That's why the EU does'n need any more open conflicts. So you can thank Slovenia and Croatia for the stricter entry criteria. The EU is always learning from its past mistakes, so this is its answer to fix it for good. This mistake won't be repeated again, that's for sure. Just tough luck for Serbia.

dan

pre 6 godina

Sj what difference is between 90s and 2018 can you explain? I see no difference the USA is still the only superpower on this world and bombs countrys every day do you have insider information? LOL

Irony

pre 6 godina

Well, one can go through life asking why why why all the time, or you can just get on with it. If you think that EU is going to care much about some confused and hormonal fatso FM who thinks that his words should be taken seriously, you obviously don’t know how the EU works. Instead of trying to dance around recognition, the only thing you can do is to just accept it. You’re in no position to bargain, there’s simply no room for it. Furthermore, your comparisons are faulty. Croatia-Slovenia border dispute is over technical slivers of territory, not an entire region that most of EU considers a country. And there was no genocide in Catalonia, so Madrid cannot he treated like a genocide perpetrator. But Belgrade can.

Roger7

pre 6 godina

Petie the Pebble responds to Victory1999 LOL!! The middle aged Canadian Serb, B92s resident troll, is replying to his own comments. This trool makes 90% of the comments on B92 and now he carries on conversations with himself. Really weird.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

what a clown this dacic is serbia is one of the poorest countrys in europe and he want to mess with EC president or foreign minister of germany or USA what a joke LOL
(dan, 27 February 2018 11:58)

@danaj - however, Srbija is a country;) know what I mean, homer? 😂

sj

pre 6 godina

The simple fact is that Kosovo* is an illegal narco entity that's run by gangsters and organ traffickers.
(Truth hurts, 27 February 2018 11:04)

That's a "fact" that few people, if any, are aware about, dear!
(icj1, 28 February 2018 04:11)

Wrong again dear. In fact Kosovo is known to be a major exporter of narcotics even by the Australian Federal Police let alone the constabulary in Europe.

You should read up on the subjects before posting because it makes you look ludicrous.

ivan

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic is correct when he says “in any negotiation both sides have to feel they have won”
Assuming in 2025 the EU still exists here are the options
1. Northern Kosovo to Serbia
2. The Southern terretory to Albania
No other changes
This would allow Serbia to join without having to deal with recognition issue
The EU would like it because it would allow Serbia to join,which is in their interest, and isolate the Albanians which is also in the interest of the EU
(Sam D, 28 February 2018 04:03)

Wishful thinking buddy! Kosovo is still within the Constitution therefore it would be treason to give it way. Back to the old formula, greater autonomy short of independence. We get to control our borders and resources and the albos get go play in the traffic

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

@sj


I know there are those who are going to point to the Croatian/Slovenian border issue. The difference is that the disputed land is 50 to 100 meters either way and involve 35 families plus the water boundary.

While in Kosovo the border line is a difference of an extra 10,900 km2 land that would be part of the EU and an extra 2 million citizens not 35 families.
Those extra citizens would mean extra Members of European Parliament for Serbia ( more then the 6 minimum) plus extra funds from the EU.

The differences between an internal border within the EU is a lot different between an external one that involves 2 million people.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Sj what difference is between 90s and 2018 can you explain? I see no difference the USA is still the only superpower on this world and bombs countrys every day do you have insider information? LOL
(dan, 27 February 2018 14:41)

@danaj - that’s the problem...you don’t see!

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

What you don't want to understand is that it doesn't matter how much debt a country carries, what maters is the ability to pay that debt. The USA has that unique ability.
(The Count of Kosova, 1 March 2018 02:35) # Co

You need to change your name , you obviously can't count. Clown of Kosovo is so much better. Did you take the Pristina Economics course from ICJ? Its called the law of diminishing returns, take out your calculator and see if its possible for the US to pay off its debt? GDP needs to grow at more than 20% to even have a possibility for that debt to be paid down; the US Reserve will of course not tell its gullible populous that the road to bankruptcy is going to be accelerated with rising interest rates. I hate to say it, but would rather take the current Albania low debt any day over the USA smoke and mirrors economy.

Watcher KHH8S

pre 6 godina

Well, one can go through life asking why why why all the time, or you can just get on with it. If you think that EU is going to care much about some confused and hormonal fatso FM who thinks that his words should be taken seriously, you obviously don’t know how the EU works. Instead of trying to dance around recognition, the only thing you can do is to just accept it. You’re in no position to bargain, there’s simply no room for it. Furthermore, your comparisons are faulty. Croatia-Slovenia border dispute is over technical slivers of territory, not an entire region that most of EU considers a country. And there was no genocide in Catalonia, so Madrid cannot he treated like a genocide perpetrator. But Belgrade can.
(Irony, 27 February 2018 16:19)

@ Ironaj - 😂😂 disslusional... at best! 😂

Sam D

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic is correct when he says “in any negotiation both sides have to feel they have won”
Assuming in 2025 the EU still exists here are the options
1. Northern Kosovo to Serbia
2. The Southern terretory to Albania
No other changes
This would allow Serbia to join without having to deal with recognition issue
The EU would like it because it would allow Serbia to join,which is in their interest, and isolate the Albanians which is also in the interest of the EU

sj

pre 6 godina

(Mark.W, 27 February 2018 16:17)

Croatia did not resolve border issues with Slovenia, Bosnia, Montenegro or Serbia yet it was accepted into the EU. The most difficult is with Serbia because the real borders are not on the Danube. Those are artificial ones that Tito drew up and are not internationally recognised.

I find it amazing that people think that joining the EU there is an endless supply of money. Those days have faded. The EU economy has not improved so Brussels continues to print money plus the UK leaving is creating big problems – too many asking for handouts not enough putting into the fund. Croatia puts into the EU fund 1 billion Euros and takes out 3 billion

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

@ sj

Hey Captain Obvious,
Yes, in 1999 the US debt was $4 trillion, if you recall that was the year NATO spent a bit of pocket change bombing a sorry ass country called Serbia.

What you don't want to understand is that it doesn't matter how much debt a country carries, what maters is the ability to pay that debt. The USA has that unique ability. That is why most any country would gladly loan the US any amount, knowing the loan is backed by the highest debt rating, that of the USA.

btw, The USA has the unique ability to feed the rest of the world. In fact, during the Cold War the US feed the Soviet Union. In case you don't know, let me edify you, the rump Soviet Union is now known as Russia. And yes, Putin was one of those poor Russians that the USA kept from starving.

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 1 March 2018 02:35)

Well, back to the future boy, you can’t get away from 1999 like a broken record LOL.

There is no point in showing you why you’re talking through your hat, but simply say that the US is kept afloat by the petro dollar. The outcome of that little tussle in Syria will decide the fate of the US.

Note that delegations from Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait are now going direct to Moscow not Washington. Even Israel is by passing Washington and going direct to Moscow. Russia has become the only power in the Middle East. Moscow will be the only power supplying gas and oil to Europe. Sorry but it’s true. I told you that Moscow will rule Europe.

The US is not capable of repaying that debt and it only pays interest on the current $20.6 trillion. Money is lent to China, Russia and EU. But not one has a horrendous debt like the US.

You need to break that 1999, cold war or Soviet Union cycle. The Soviet Union is gone; your stuck in the past.

Its February 2018 not 1999.

Sasa from near Jagodina

pre 6 godina

what about Slovenia and Croatia?"

They are the bad examples. That's why the EU does'n need any more open conflicts. So you can thank Slovenia and Croatia for the stricter entry criteria. The EU is always learning from its past mistakes, so this is its answer to fix it for good. This mistake won't be repeated again, that's for sure. Just tough luck for Serbia.
(Contractor, 27 February 2018 10:51

What about Cyprus? They to have a land dispute , SO you are wrong and EU didn't learn ))
It will depend how hard do Serbs want to join and how hard EU wants them to join) )

icj1

pre 6 godina

The simple fact is that Kosovo* is an illegal narco entity that's run by gangsters and organ traffickers.
(Truth hurts, 27 February 2018 11:04)

That's a "fact" that few people, if any, are aware about, dear!

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Here we go:


Will Mogherini decapitate Kosovo?
http://guests.blogactiv.eu/2018/02/27/will-mogherini-decapitate-kosovo/

.....This court was established in 2015 to hear the allegations contained in the so-called ‘Marty report’, published by the Council of Europe in late 2010. After some hesitation, the main Western powers chose to take it seriously. In September 2011 the EU established a Special Investigative Task Force (SITF) to conduct a ‘full-scale investigation’ into the report. Its conclusions were unveiled on 29 July 2014.

SITF declared that its findings were ‘largely consistent’ with the Marty report (including on the claim that the KLA financed itself also by harvesting organs from selected prisoners, who were murdered in the process, to sell them on the international black market: SITF found evidence of ‘a few’ such cases, but failed to identify the culprits)....

see the link for the rest

icj1

pre 6 godina

take out your calculator and see if its possible for the US to pay off its debt? GDP needs to grow at more than 20% to even have a possibility for that debt to be paid down;
(Jugoslavija, 1 March 2018 18:06)

Yeah, according to the calculator, the US has more total assets than total liabilities, and therefore is able to pay its debt (whether the GDP grows at 20% or not). That is also confirmed by China or Russia (unless you consider the Chinese or the Russians idiots who don't know basic math).

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

(Truth hurt)

The only truth that hurts is that you lost Kosovo forever and it was fun kicking 200 000 serbs out Kosovo and taking their property. It all belong to us now. serbia is one of the poorest and least developed country in europe and yet they think that they are a superpower. HA!

And forget about zso, no one wants you in Kosovo to begin with.

dan

pre 6 godina

what a clown this dacic is serbia is one of the poorest countrys in europe and he want to mess with EC president or foreign minister of germany or USA what a joke LOL

Contractor

pre 6 godina

"what about Slovenia and Croatia?"

They are the bad examples. That's why the EU does'n need any more open conflicts. So you can thank Slovenia and Croatia for the stricter entry criteria. The EU is always learning from its past mistakes, so this is its answer to fix it for good. This mistake won't be repeated again, that's for sure. Just tough luck for Serbia.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Dacic the ignorant Milosevic protege threatens to cancel his worthless signature?

When Trump allows Zso for the serb settlers in Chicago and
Serbia does same from indigenous Albanians in Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanic then Dacic might have a leg to stand on until then NO!

Dacic is a loser that loves to celebrate ex 1389...

Azir

pre 6 godina

Nejgos:

Dacic and his family were settlers in Kosova that relocated because of Serbia’s Colonization Program of providing financial incentives to populate Kosova to be used as a bargain chip and excuse to exploit our natural resources as in Trepca...

Slavs can never be Indigenous to Kosova or any other Shqiptare ancestral homelands...

Especially Serb settlers and war refugees!

Serbs have Serbia and Russia to select from.

sj

pre 6 godina

what a clown this dacic is serbia is one of the poorest countrys in europe and he want to mess with EC president or foreign minister of germany or USA what a joke LOL
(dan, 27 February 2018 11:58)

Yes, he does want to mess with the EC President, Germany and US. No, it’s no joke. People must realise that this is 2018 not the 1990s.

Serbia is putting pressure on all and they will buckle LOL. Watch and learn boys.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

(Truth hurt)

The only truth that hurts is that you lost Kosovo forever and it was fun kicking 200 000 serbs out Kosovo and taking their property. It all belong to us now. serbia is one of the poorest and least developed country in europe and yet they think that they are a superpower. HA!

And forget about zso, no one wants you in Kosovo to begin with.
(Victory1999, 27 February 2018 13:15)

Victory1999, I'm not sure how to brand you, a veiled Serb impostoring as an Albanian or a Albanian in the very small minority with that way of thinking???

All Serbs civilians who lived in Kosova with clean hands that haven't committed crimes against the population of The Republic Of Kosova are free to live in Kosova, period!
However they should prepare themselves and become accustom to following a new way of life one which demands from them that they follow Kosovan laws and help protect the interest of The Republic Of Kosova!

If they can't get accustomed to these new ways of life in Kosova then they are free to leave if they choose so, it is up to them to choose!

Irony

pre 6 godina

Well, one can go through life asking why why why all the time, or you can just get on with it. If you think that EU is going to care much about some confused and hormonal fatso FM who thinks that his words should be taken seriously, you obviously don’t know how the EU works. Instead of trying to dance around recognition, the only thing you can do is to just accept it. You’re in no position to bargain, there’s simply no room for it. Furthermore, your comparisons are faulty. Croatia-Slovenia border dispute is over technical slivers of territory, not an entire region that most of EU considers a country. And there was no genocide in Catalonia, so Madrid cannot he treated like a genocide perpetrator. But Belgrade can.

Truth hurts

pre 6 godina

The EU is full of hypocrisy and double standards. The simple fact is that Kosovo* is an illegal narco entity that's run by gangsters and organ traffickers.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Who's stopping you? This guy can't keep his mouth shut for a day. One day he says EU doesn't know what Serbian "inat" is, next day says EU wants us to commit "harakiri", now this 😀

njegos

pre 6 godina

I never thought I'd say this, but thank god for Dacic. He's the only one who will stand up to the EU and the international community. Enough is enough and Dacic is willing to say that. Don't forget Dacic was born in Kosovo. I guess according to the hard line Kosovo Albanians on this board, that makes him indigenous.

sj

pre 6 godina

Opps Dacic is asking some very unpleasant questions.

For those that think that allowing in Croatia and Slovenia was a mistake they dont want to repeat, let me just say that's BS. The EU knew very well about Croat and Slovene border issues, but they were so eager to get them in they did not care.

I'm glad to see the Serbs finally throwing spanners in the EU machinery and its about time.

Vratnica

pre 6 godina

Azir

You guys are not indigenous to the presevo valley. Many of those families are from eastern kosovo, who originated from Ljume. Others came from Nis, after having lived there for a very short period....some of those families were out of Pec area. You guys were turkish slaves, who sold their religion in order to become landowners over stolen land.

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

@sj


I know there are those who are going to point to the Croatian/Slovenian border issue. The difference is that the disputed land is 50 to 100 meters either way and involve 35 families plus the water boundary.

While in Kosovo the border line is a difference of an extra 10,900 km2 land that would be part of the EU and an extra 2 million citizens not 35 families.
Those extra citizens would mean extra Members of European Parliament for Serbia ( more then the 6 minimum) plus extra funds from the EU.

The differences between an internal border within the EU is a lot different between an external one that involves 2 million people.

dan

pre 6 godina

Sj what difference is between 90s and 2018 can you explain? I see no difference the USA is still the only superpower on this world and bombs countrys every day do you have insider information? LOL

icj1

pre 6 godina

The simple fact is that Kosovo* is an illegal narco entity that's run by gangsters and organ traffickers.
(Truth hurts, 27 February 2018 11:04)

That's a "fact" that few people, if any, are aware about, dear!

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Brussels refusing to keep up its end of the bargain? Why am I not surprised? As I've written many times before, Brussels is very flexible with its rules when it suits it, which is why it is a joke.

sj

pre 6 godina

The simple fact is that Kosovo* is an illegal narco entity that's run by gangsters and organ traffickers.
(Truth hurts, 27 February 2018 11:04)

That's a "fact" that few people, if any, are aware about, dear!
(icj1, 28 February 2018 04:11)

Wrong again dear. In fact Kosovo is known to be a major exporter of narcotics even by the Australian Federal Police let alone the constabulary in Europe.

You should read up on the subjects before posting because it makes you look ludicrous.

njegos

pre 6 godina

From Azir: "Slavs can never be Indigenous to Kosova or any other Shqiptare ancestral homelands..."

You have quite an imagination for an unemployed doorman from the Bronx. Perhaps you should spend more time looking for a job on the internet rather than trolling Serbian web sites.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Mark.W, 27 February 2018 16:17)

Croatia did not resolve border issues with Slovenia, Bosnia, Montenegro or Serbia yet it was accepted into the EU. The most difficult is with Serbia because the real borders are not on the Danube. Those are artificial ones that Tito drew up and are not internationally recognised.

I find it amazing that people think that joining the EU there is an endless supply of money. Those days have faded. The EU economy has not improved so Brussels continues to print money plus the UK leaving is creating big problems – too many asking for handouts not enough putting into the fund. Croatia puts into the EU fund 1 billion Euros and takes out 3 billion

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

@ sj

Hey Captain Obvious,
Yes, in 1999 the US debt was $4 trillion, if you recall that was the year NATO spent a bit of pocket change bombing a sorry ass country called Serbia.

What you don't want to understand is that it doesn't matter how much debt a country carries, what maters is the ability to pay that debt. The USA has that unique ability. That is why most any country would gladly loan the US any amount, knowing the loan is backed by the highest debt rating, that of the USA.

btw, The USA has the unique ability to feed the rest of the world. In fact, during the Cold War the US feed the Soviet Union. In case you don't know, let me edify you, the rump Soviet Union is now known as Russia. And yes, Putin was one of those poor Russians that the USA kept from starving.

Roger7

pre 6 godina

Petie the Pebble responds to Victory1999 LOL!! The middle aged Canadian Serb, B92s resident troll, is replying to his own comments. This trool makes 90% of the comments on B92 and now he carries on conversations with himself. Really weird.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

what a clown this dacic is serbia is one of the poorest countrys in europe and he want to mess with EC president or foreign minister of germany or USA what a joke LOL
(dan, 27 February 2018 11:58)

@danaj - however, Srbija is a country;) know what I mean, homer? 😂

Watcher KHH8S

pre 6 godina

Well, one can go through life asking why why why all the time, or you can just get on with it. If you think that EU is going to care much about some confused and hormonal fatso FM who thinks that his words should be taken seriously, you obviously don’t know how the EU works. Instead of trying to dance around recognition, the only thing you can do is to just accept it. You’re in no position to bargain, there’s simply no room for it. Furthermore, your comparisons are faulty. Croatia-Slovenia border dispute is over technical slivers of territory, not an entire region that most of EU considers a country. And there was no genocide in Catalonia, so Madrid cannot he treated like a genocide perpetrator. But Belgrade can.
(Irony, 27 February 2018 16:19)

@ Ironaj - 😂😂 disslusional... at best! 😂

Peggy

pre 6 godina

If they can't get accustomed to these new ways of life in Kosova then they are free to leave if they choose so, it is up to them to choose!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 27 February 2018 14:31)
======================
So these are the rules for Serbs.
Now what are the rules for Albanians who have committed crimes against Serbs? They need to leave?
What there are no Albanians with blood on their hands?

sj

pre 6 godina

(dan, 27 February 2018 14:41)

That’s the problem, people like you don’t see they only listen to what they are being told, lap it up and repeat it ad nauseum. Today, the US has only three combat ready brigades – 15,000 troops. The US Navy has 278 ships, but it needs 355.

The US Air Force needs 1200 fighters but only has 923 and most equipment is too old so cannibalisation of aircraft to make others airworthy is a regular practise. It's short of 1000 pilots and 3000 maintenance workers. Pilot experience is at historic lows. As far as the US being a superpower that was finished in Iraq.

It only bombs small defenceless nations. Why don’t they try a real challenge like Russia or China LOL?????

In 1999, the US debt was $4 trillion, today at this moment its $20.6 trillion and $21.5 trillion by December. The US economy $19 trillion but $12 trillion of that is printed money – the economy is bloated. Trump is handing out tax cuts using borrowed money – that’s like cutting one’s nose off to spite one’s face.

One more thing. China is the World No1 economy and has been since September 2014. Bet they don’t mention that one.

All this information is there but you must know where to look for it.

njegos

pre 6 godina

From icj1: "That's a "fact" that few people, if any, are aware about, dear!"

Since when did you become the spokeswoman for all of the people icj1? Just because you aren't unaware of something that is obvious to others, doesn't mean they are as ignorant as you dear. I think you should thank sj for helping to educate you on yet another subject. I see the education of icj1 continues.

ivan

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic is correct when he says “in any negotiation both sides have to feel they have won”
Assuming in 2025 the EU still exists here are the options
1. Northern Kosovo to Serbia
2. The Southern terretory to Albania
No other changes
This would allow Serbia to join without having to deal with recognition issue
The EU would like it because it would allow Serbia to join,which is in their interest, and isolate the Albanians which is also in the interest of the EU
(Sam D, 28 February 2018 04:03)

Wishful thinking buddy! Kosovo is still within the Constitution therefore it would be treason to give it way. Back to the old formula, greater autonomy short of independence. We get to control our borders and resources and the albos get go play in the traffic

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

What you don't want to understand is that it doesn't matter how much debt a country carries, what maters is the ability to pay that debt. The USA has that unique ability.
(The Count of Kosova, 1 March 2018 02:35) # Co

You need to change your name , you obviously can't count. Clown of Kosovo is so much better. Did you take the Pristina Economics course from ICJ? Its called the law of diminishing returns, take out your calculator and see if its possible for the US to pay off its debt? GDP needs to grow at more than 20% to even have a possibility for that debt to be paid down; the US Reserve will of course not tell its gullible populous that the road to bankruptcy is going to be accelerated with rising interest rates. I hate to say it, but would rather take the current Albania low debt any day over the USA smoke and mirrors economy.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Sj what difference is between 90s and 2018 can you explain? I see no difference the USA is still the only superpower on this world and bombs countrys every day do you have insider information? LOL
(dan, 27 February 2018 14:41)

@danaj - that’s the problem...you don’t see!

Sam D

pre 6 godina

Mr Vucic is correct when he says “in any negotiation both sides have to feel they have won”
Assuming in 2025 the EU still exists here are the options
1. Northern Kosovo to Serbia
2. The Southern terretory to Albania
No other changes
This would allow Serbia to join without having to deal with recognition issue
The EU would like it because it would allow Serbia to join,which is in their interest, and isolate the Albanians which is also in the interest of the EU

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Here we go:


Will Mogherini decapitate Kosovo?
http://guests.blogactiv.eu/2018/02/27/will-mogherini-decapitate-kosovo/

.....This court was established in 2015 to hear the allegations contained in the so-called ‘Marty report’, published by the Council of Europe in late 2010. After some hesitation, the main Western powers chose to take it seriously. In September 2011 the EU established a Special Investigative Task Force (SITF) to conduct a ‘full-scale investigation’ into the report. Its conclusions were unveiled on 29 July 2014.

SITF declared that its findings were ‘largely consistent’ with the Marty report (including on the claim that the KLA financed itself also by harvesting organs from selected prisoners, who were murdered in the process, to sell them on the international black market: SITF found evidence of ‘a few’ such cases, but failed to identify the culprits)....

see the link for the rest

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 1 March 2018 02:35)

Well, back to the future boy, you can’t get away from 1999 like a broken record LOL.

There is no point in showing you why you’re talking through your hat, but simply say that the US is kept afloat by the petro dollar. The outcome of that little tussle in Syria will decide the fate of the US.

Note that delegations from Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait are now going direct to Moscow not Washington. Even Israel is by passing Washington and going direct to Moscow. Russia has become the only power in the Middle East. Moscow will be the only power supplying gas and oil to Europe. Sorry but it’s true. I told you that Moscow will rule Europe.

The US is not capable of repaying that debt and it only pays interest on the current $20.6 trillion. Money is lent to China, Russia and EU. But not one has a horrendous debt like the US.

You need to break that 1999, cold war or Soviet Union cycle. The Soviet Union is gone; your stuck in the past.

Its February 2018 not 1999.

Sasa from near Jagodina

pre 6 godina

what about Slovenia and Croatia?"

They are the bad examples. That's why the EU does'n need any more open conflicts. So you can thank Slovenia and Croatia for the stricter entry criteria. The EU is always learning from its past mistakes, so this is its answer to fix it for good. This mistake won't be repeated again, that's for sure. Just tough luck for Serbia.
(Contractor, 27 February 2018 10:51

What about Cyprus? They to have a land dispute , SO you are wrong and EU didn't learn ))
It will depend how hard do Serbs want to join and how hard EU wants them to join) )

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The EU is always learning from its past mistakes, so this is its answer to fix it for good. This mistake won't be repeated again, that's for sure. Just tough luck for Serbia.
(Contractor, 27 February 2018 10:51)
==========================
No, they are making excuses, changing goal posts or trying to demoralize Serbia as much as they can.
Maybe all three.

You see, if after all these decades they are still learning then they are incapable of learning.

icj1

pre 6 godina

take out your calculator and see if its possible for the US to pay off its debt? GDP needs to grow at more than 20% to even have a possibility for that debt to be paid down;
(Jugoslavija, 1 March 2018 18:06)

Yeah, according to the calculator, the US has more total assets than total liabilities, and therefore is able to pay its debt (whether the GDP grows at 20% or not). That is also confirmed by China or Russia (unless you consider the Chinese or the Russians idiots who don't know basic math).