"Serbs and Albanians could make another mistake"

Only mistake that was made were allowing serbs to exist in Northen Kosovo. But that we will take care of. One way or another. Macedonia will become a third Albanian state in a couple of years. Those land belong to the Albanian people, then slavs came from asia and started to invade our territory. We are going to take our land back again. It belongs to its rightful owners.

serbs are foreigners to the balkan pennisula. Its not your home, never been and will never be your home either. You came here in the 6th century as invaders and you will be removed as the invaders you all are.

Only mistake that was made were allowing serbs to exist in Northen Kosovo. But that we will take care of. One way or another. Macedonia will become a third Albanian state in a couple of years. Those land belong to the Albanian people, then slavs came from asia and started to invade our territory. We are going to take our land back again. It belongs to its rightful owners.

serbs are foreigners to the balkan pennisula. Its not your home, never been and will never be your home either. You came here in the 6th century as invaders and you will be removed as the invaders you all are.
(Victorty1999, 2 February 2018 11:08)

Ok we arrived in the 6 century, but show proof that Albos have been there before the Serbs. You have NOTHING, not even a fossilized toothpick, cave painting or building to substantiate your claim to have been living there since time immoral LOL.

When he was prime minister we could not see president on tv, now when he is president we could not see prime minister. Always Vucic, Serbia has become private state of Vucic's family.

serbs are foreigners to the balkan pennisula. Its not your home, never been and will never be your home either. You came here in the 6th century as invaders and you will be removed as the invaders you all are.
(Victorty1999, 2 February 2018 11:08)

Stop pretending you are Albanian. You are an other incarnation of Danilo, a Serb troll.

Known as Azir - Avni - Rocky (and how many more names? Maybe even Lenard).
Sramota to you, go back to your cave, neanderthal.

Ok we arrived in the 6 century, but show proof that Albos have been there before the Serbs. You have NOTHING, not even a fossilized toothpick, cave painting or building to substantiate your claim to have been living there since time immoral LOL.
(sj, 2 February 2018 12:07) # Comment


@ sj

There is a kebab kiosk in tirana from the 1950`s and the bill clinton statue. And there was talk of a wooly mammoth, but sadly it turned out to be just some talibanian beauty contestant from the 1950`s grave site.

In Azerbaijan they found lots of talibanian artifacts, clay burial jars cobani text carved into stone tablets. Which clearly shows they spoke cromag jezik until the 1800`s.

again I have to ask, where does the idea that Serbs and Albanians are the two greatest nastions in the Balkans come from? Greeks are larger in population than both

Who on earth is this Victory1999?

Dude Serbs and Albanans have and will live in Balkans forget 6th century!!!

That is BS. No one is asking Serbia to recognize Kosovo. No one cares Serbia recognizes Kosovo or not. What EU is asking is a legal biding document Serbia and Kosovo resolving all their bilateral problems and further more Kosovo UN seat. That`s the end of the story. Sign the paper and get over it with this "recognition" BS from both sides. Belgrade has already accepted the reality in Kosovo since K.Serbs backed by Belgrade are in Kosovo Parliament, Kosovo Police Force, Kosovo Government, Kosovo Judicial system. No further recognition is needed.
(Free, 2 February 2018 19:42)

@free - Wrong! If Serbia has recognized, why is Pristina and west working so hard to get them to recognize? You're disillusioned, Homer!

Hülyeség - ezt meg mér is tenném? T.k. azok.
(Ataman)
?! in English please, I am a Vushtrri guy given third eye only. Google translation makes no sense to what you wrote in "gullashski".
(Gyorgy Mically, 3 February 2018 07:30)

Sorry Danilo Danilovic Danilov.

Precisely that was the point.
That a troll who trolling with a Hungarian name would stuck at Google translator.

A real Hungarian would answer both questions like 1-2-3.

Next time chose your names better and try your luck somewhere else.


(And take your Yoni, C*nt of Kosova, Azir, Avni, Lenard and all the other nicks with you).

You failed twice in the row. Are you into BDSM or what? Do you really enjoy being beaten, being hated? Do you seriously believed that an obviously fake Hungarian name would do some tricks? Maybe try next time something Russian, who knows...

"Croatian", "Hungarian" and "Albanian" story is over...

Idiot.

Maybe you should talk to Roger7, too.

NO! ONLY YOU WILL MAKE THE FU..ING MISTAKE!!!

AND YOU WILL PAY A PRICE THAT IS GOING TO DRAIN YOU DRY!

YOUR HEARING IT FROM RIGHT HERE, THE GOOD OLD U.S.A!!!

Profit share on Trepça. Lol.
That complex is a sh*thole that needs at least a billion EUR to bring it back from the dead. What profit?


Sincerely,

North stays in Serbia and retains the name Kosovo, profit share on trepca, holy sites with unimpeded access and protection.
That realistically is the deal that should be done. We don't want to live with those Kosovo Albanians, and they don't want to live in Serbia.

"Without Serbia there is no UN membership, without Serbia there is no Intrpol membership, without Serbia there are no state visits to China," Vucic emphasized."

Dont worry about those organisations. Kosovo will sooner or later join them all one way or another. Yes China is the place where everyone wants to go and visit....

North stays in Serbia and retains the name Kosovo, profit share on trepca, holy sites with unimpeded access and protection.
That realistically is the deal that should be done. We don't want to live with those Kosovo Albanians, and they don't want to live in Serbia.
(Helsingborg., 2 February 2018 11:24)

@ It hurts to say or think, but this scenario is very realistic. The extreme negative of this is it still validates theft of one's property and gives extremists the green light that overpopulating a region gives them the right to declare "independence" and start a "country"...The International community that does not recognize "kosova" and have their own issues with minorities most likely will not approve of this scenario.

Who on earth is this Victory1999?

Dude Serbs and Albanans have and will live in Balkans forget 6th century!!!
(Bilbao, 2 February 2018 17:49)

New name but most likely an other version of old Danilo.
B92's plague for years.

As usual, these "Albanians" will fail some basic "albaniannes"-tests.
But they would proclaim, Kosova do Tokija (but at least up to Nis).

Many common signs. Danilo is a likely suspect, he is as Albanian as my Russian salad.

The solution is there and it`s clear for everyone: Serbia in EU, Kosovo in UN.

They will continue with smoke and mirrors by saying "We won`t join EU if we have to recognize Kosovo" to make themselves look like heroes defending Serbia.

That is BS. No one is asking Serbia to recognize Kosovo. No one cares Serbia recognizes Kosovo or not. What EU is asking is a legal biding document Serbia and Kosovo resolving all their bilateral problems and further more Kosovo UN seat. That`s the end of the story. Sign the paper and get over it with this "recognition" BS from both sides. Belgrade has already accepted the reality in Kosovo since K.Serbs backed by Belgrade are in Kosovo Parliament, Kosovo Police Force, Kosovo Government, Kosovo Judicial system. No further recognition is needed.

Ataman, be more specific please when you talk about early ages in Balkans,do you refuse the fact that serbs are slavics?

@Ataman

thank you for your contribution, and your feedback.

We acknowledge any frustration with the comments system - none is perfect - however, our system is "system-wide" - i.e., it works for the whole website, not just the English language section of it. For our part, we here at b92.net/english are well aware, grateful for, and taking into consideration all the feedback we are receiving concerning this particular issue.

As for any technical problems you may encounter while posting your comments - we would appreciate it very much if you would report these instances, with relevant details (platform, OS, browser).

Regards,

"we have to find a compromise, where the Albanians and the Serbs will have to make concessions"

Vucic, is like a leech that keeps coming back, hoping to suck some more blood. Nobody in the EU would ever take him seriously with these "concessions". Serbia has no right to ask for concessions when it is still occupying the Albanian territories in Presheva and Sanxhak.

The matter has been resolved by the most ancient means possible. WAR.

NATO did it and still hold the power.

What people think about it is a different matter, but mainly the problem is in the minds of people.

The solution to that is to change your mind. Bribery sometimes works.

@B92.

I am very sorry, but this is very-very frustrating.

I am posting here for well over 10 years, we are still waiting for an adequate authentication system.

I don't mind to debate with Rote or Roberto - but I really want to know, it's indeed "Rote" or "Roberto".

These are merely examples, both users are unique enough. But there are countless others which are definitively trolls.

There is no point to feed the trolls - and these not only do not add any value to your site, they scare off legit users.

Good example is Betsy Laich. She has views I largely dispute. But she is 100% legit. And seeing what is going on she disappeared for good. That loss is your loss.

An other problem is the posting process. It is very buggy, there is about 60-70% chance that a posting simply won't go through.

Thanks.

Greeks, Romanians and Albanians are the largest individual ethnic groups in the Balkans not Serbs. As a collective southern Slavs are still smaller in number compared to the other three native groups put together. Vucic trying to puff his chest and create issus where there should be none. Albanians have already said they are done fighting, just like everyone else in the region. The future of the Balkans is diplomacy not war. Kosovo is an issue that needs to be sorted by Pristina and Belgrade no one else.

Ataman- I'm just a keen observer and a life-long student of human behavior. A person who has spent years trolling on B92 can't have a very productive and meaningful life. This troll needs professional help. Bravo to you for trying to promote constructive dialogue.

Dear Serb people, maybe I'm wrong, but why M. Vucic never talks about the Trepca mines? I mean: Trepca mines are Serbia's property, isn't it? Also, Trepca mines has a lot of economic potential, isn't it?

Nikolle maybe he means TWO BIGGEST DAMN FOOLS.

"When he was prime minister we could not see president on tv, now when he is president we could not see prime minister. Always Vucic, Serbia has become private state of Vucic's family.
(Andrija, 2 February 2018 12:10) # Comment link"

Exactly. He is a very sick individual. Just listen to him talk and his mannerisms. The media is under his control there is a complete blockade. He sold out many things with this brussels agreement and everything his mentors ordered him to do. Like the manipulations when he was there for the marathon talks he had to sleep on the floor with no blanket and it was cold, it wasnt easy it was very difficult, but he was there fighting for serbs... This brussels agreement has been very detrimental to serbs in kosmet. If you analyse it is satanic what hes doing.. He sells out his people-the very people hes supposed to protect- then he goes down there to visit the poor people and presents homself as their saviour. It appears hes at the end, but its interesting now his mentors are not 100% sure hes going to deliver the final blow.

Ataman, why you are so irritated just because I use a Hungarian ruski name?

Serbia may not have to officially recognize Kosovo but it will have to agree to where the border is in any agreement and respect it. ( De facto recognition)

I know there are those who are going to point to the Croatian/Slovenian border issue. The difference is that the disputed land is 50 to 100 meters either way and involve 35 families plus the water boundary.

While in Kosovo the border line is a difference of an extra 10,900 km2 land that would be part of the EU and an extra 2 million citizens not 35 families.
Those extra citizens would mean extra Members of European Parliament for Serbia ( more then the 6 minimum) plus extra funds from the EU.

With the recent comments from Spain that will be worked out to be included in the agreement to Spain’s satisfaction. Plus if both Serbia and Kosovo agree to a plan Spain will be under extreme pressure not to stop it. The only thing that Spain’s involvement will do is delay the process, it will not stop it.

To Ataman and also B92

I propose that B92 add a photo of the poster next to his or her post, kinda like in F.B. , I gladly give you my permission B92 to use my F.B. cover photo showing my Serbian Face. In reality it would be nice to see each other how we really look ! It's just an idea and like I say little old me has nothing to hide !!!

Roger,

What is the name of a person who:

- Tries to offend as many people as possible and enjoys it.
- Has at least a half-dozen nicks (or more?)
- Pretends to be the one he is not
- Every single post of him is bullying
- The side-effect is to spark more conflicts, make Serbs hate Albanians and v.v - but that is not the main goal. The main goal is to entertain himself, he needs that kind of feeling, otherwise he is bored.

The name of such person is a psychopath.

I posted a few writings about donkeys, probably just to make the guy even happier (he needs that kind of negative thing).

If we want really to annoy that person we probably should ignore him.

He became the scourge of B92. B92 would be wise to implement an authentication system, for their own benefit.

@ Ataman What kept you silent and prevented you by disputing in a civilized manner Ms. Lalich's ideas? Her loss is my loss I guess since I'm the only one who has disputed her ideas in a not civilized manner. What makes you think that just the fact that somebody undersigns with his her real name is a guarantee that that somebody won't be trolling? Cause it happens, you can sign your comment and still be trolling and the fact that you undersigned with your real name is not a disclaimer for trolling activities. In an ideal parallel world nobody would ever need to hide under pseudonyms but we don't live in an ideal world. We live in a world where you Ataman are aware that those mafia guys are not a fairy tale, they are real people with real interests who can threaten and kill everyone who dares raise their voice. Traitor writings, who is your father, why dont you write with your real name, I'm one of those openly threatened here and under harassment in facebook since I dared post an anti Rama comment. And Im not crying about it but why would my children pay with their lives just because babi budalla wants to write two words now and then on internet? So it is a complicated issue I think.

can someone give me a link of the Serbian governance program ?

i am curious what plans are for Serbia

Sorry Danilo Danilovic Danilov.
That a troll who trolling with a Hungarian name would stuck at Google translator. .
(Je¿ albañski, wêgierski, dañilski i g³upi,)
Very bad policing for a experienced police officer. Do you agree? Once more, I'am not trolling dude, I am just a Vushtrri guy who worked several years next to where river Sitinicë and Ibër joins together.

Victorty1999
if you want to propel Albanian rights dont do it by attacking the right of Macedonia as a sovereign and Independent state or anyone for that matter

Dragoljub Djurkovic,
How would one know the person in the photo is actually you. For all we know it could be Baba Vanga in the photo.
(Ataman, 5 February 2018 10:44)
========================
People don't always have photos of themselves on FB page. Privacy is precious and not everyone wants to share equally.
It's always best to be as discreet as you can. It's not smart to give away too much information.

Ataman,
I see that you continuously insist for some kind of control for the readers posting here. So, honestly, are/were you a police officer, and are/were you staying in Kosovo?

Ataman, be more specific please when you talk about early ages in Balkans,do you refuse the fact that serbs are slavics?
(Gyorgy Mically, 2 February 2018 20:39)

Hülyeség - ezt meg mér is tenném? T.k. azok.

There is of course a little challenge, too - not going to be solved by Google translator.
In my response (like that Vucitrn-Skenderbeu-Cognac) there is a little trick.

People rarely log in here with names. Your name is both typical and not. Given your name you got the response the way it is. But if you are for real, you should tell me, what that little "t.k." is.

Not a perfect challenge of course. If you are for real, you will know it immediately. If you are from that AoT game - at least you will need some work to solve that challenge.

Good luck!

Otherwise Roger7 is our AoT specialist, I am merely his assistant ;-)

Hope one day B92 will have some better authentication.

Hülyeség - ezt meg mér is tenném? T.k. azok.
(Ataman)
?! in English please, I am a Vushtrri guy given third eye only. Google translation makes no sense to what you wrote in "gullashski".

North stays in Serbia and retains the name Kosovo, profit share on trepca, holy sites with unimpeded access and protection.
That realistically is the deal that should be done. We don't want to live with those Kosovo Albanians, and they don't want to live in Serbia.
(Helsingborg., 2 February 2018 11:24)

The extreme negative of this is it still validates theft of one's property
(Watcher, 2 February 2018 17:39)

No dear, what Helsingborg proposed nowhere validates validates your theft of one's property

I don't think i need to "keep telling myself". I talk what i see. I see Serbs in Southern Kosovo trying to build their lives in the new state of Kosovo.

And i see N.Kosovo Serbs being left by Belgrade in the hands of local criminal bands who are killing everyone standing in their way. And they have to choose to continue live like that or be totally integrated with the rest Kosovo. And they don`t seem very happy with being under "protection" of criminal gangs.

Meanwhile i think someone else here keep telling themselves "Tomorrow EU/US will crumble. Tomorrow US/EU will beg us to join them. Tomorrow Russia/China/Japan will make Serbia richer than Switzerland. Tomorrow +100 countries will take back recognition of Kosovo... We`ll just have to wait...like we did for almost past 20 years.... or for another 500 years".

Be my guests. Keep calm and keep waiting.

To Ataman and also B92

I propose that B92 add a photo of the poster next to his or her post, kinda like in F.B. , I gladly give you my permission B92 to use my F.B. cover photo showing my Serbian Face. In reality it would be nice to see each other how we really look ! It's just an idea and like I say little old me has nothing to hide !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 3 February 2018 13:36)


Dragoljub Djurkovic,
How would one know the person in the photo is actually you. For all we know it could be Baba Vanga in the photo.

What about this Serbs? You're showing your true face far too often.

Javnost zgrožena beogradskim skupom podrške Milanu Nediću http://avaz.ba/region/srbija/347825/javnost-zgrozena-beogradskim-skupom-podrske-milanu-nedicu

@ Ataman What kept you silent and prevented you by disputing in a civilized manner Ms. Lalich's ideas? Her loss is my loss I guess since I'm the only one who has disputed her ideas in a not civilized manner.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 3 February 2018 17:43)

I don't remember you arguing with her, I did not pay much attention on that.
Much of this site is destroyed by some psychopath.

Nearly all conversations are being "steered" away from the topic.

In your case it is exceptionally pity as you are (or seem to be?) one of very few genuinely-appearing Albanians.

The "rest" is a single psychopath who has pretty much nothing to do with KS or AL.

Ms. Lalich - for good or bad - got scared from precisely THAT.

As far as I recall she essentially exploded on a very much real Serbian person (Zoran maybe?) whom I know from outside B92.

The entire environment needs a strong improvement.

I think, proper registration / authentication process would work OK.

Even not all posts here are mine (the one about "Baba" was not from me).


The ones with "Je¿", or magarac / donkey are mine. "Je¿" has an old story here on B92. And the donkey topic seem to endlessly annoy our friend.

Me thinks... he is here to get the proper BDSM treatment and beating, not?
I just helping him with all these donkeys, to get his money / time worth on B92.
Otherwise he would complain about bad customer service: no Je¿ / donkey / magarac?

How come?

>>>Hülyeség - ezt meg mér is tenném? T.k. azok.

Pardon my bad French. In this AoT game (Age of Trolls) if I see a knew character with some interesting nick I have to test certain things. It's a double trick where a simple Google translate is not enough for a little reason. Aplogies ;-)

Gyorgy,

Is Orbángutáng a sneci or Simicska or someone else?

You should answer that question like 1-2-3.

Your correct Ataman, but if every one was honest and straight forward it would be nice to at least see how we all look in real life ! Some times words are meaningless unless a face back them up, pretty much like you hear a song but never see who is singing it. Well I guess it really does not matter how the person looks singing the song as long as the melody and poetry rhyme !!!

Your correct Ataman
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 5 February 2018 13:39)

That was not my post. Danilka is active. And it's an other proof that something needs to be done better.

A "real" registration will do OK.
In particular, if B92 won't accept any registration from a free e-mail, only e-mails pointing to a valid company and/or internet provider domain.

The registration would mean people get a secret "moniker" easy to remember - but quite unique. That secret "moniker" should be included in each posting to B92 (and only B92 can see it).

For instance, Avni would get something like "donkey123".
I would get something like "jez456".

No one can see "donkey" or "jez" - only B92.

Of course, I could post as Avni. But since the only "monikers" (call them "passwords") I know are the ones sent to my e-mail (as said: only "real" e-mail would be accepted) I have to use the "jez456".

The system would still accept the post... and amend it with something funny like:

"written by Ataman who dreams to be Avni".

It's of course not an unbreakable way - but does not require many resources from B92 and will prevent a great number of trollings.

The goal is not to prevent it 100% - just make it hard enough.

Javnost zgrožena beogradskim skupom podrške Milanu Nediću [link]
(Avni, 5 February 2018 22:41)

Gee... these "Albanians" don't know much about Vushtrri - but are quite good in Serbian.
They are probably in love with some Serbian magarac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKWLC87Uzw

IAAAAAAA.

As for any technical problems you may encounter while posting your comments - we would appreciate it very much if you would report these instances, with relevant details (platform, OS, browser).

Regards,
(B92, 3 February 2018 15:32)

B92,

I tried several browsers (Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Opera) - the posting problem is not browser-dependent. What happens quite often: the post of < 1500 char would simply not go through and the entire web site re-load, including the failed post.

The nick of the poster as well as the captcha would be cleared.

What will work is if I edit the posting. Change in citing some other post, changing the "" into something else or removing them often works.

I believe, the problem is in the internal text-analyzer (if you have any). If you don't - beats me.

Still, the success of a posting going through or not largely depends of the text. Changing something completely innocent often does the job.

If I am in BG I can gladly demonstrate you the problem in person.

Thanks!

People don't always have photos of themselves on FB page. Privacy is precious and not everyone wants to share equally.
(Peggy, 6 February 2018 11:31)

- That was a fake "Ataman" by the way.
- Completely agree with you.
- The solution to this entire psychopath Avni / Lenard / Azir / Count / Victory1999 / Sam / Joni / (how many more?) problem is the proper authentication.

If I am B92 I would accept postings from registered users only.
Is a user registered or not will be known from his posting because he would be required to submit along with his posting his "access code" to B92.

Each registered user would have a different (but permanent) access code, known by him and B92 only.

That "access code" would be submitted by B92 via one-time (user's choice!)

- SMS message for Serbs, Kosovars
- It could be a PayPal transaction code (say, 50 U.S. Cent one-time payment) for people who do not have / want to use mobile
- It could be a simple e-mail message but only corporate or provider-based e-mail addresses can be used, not like "Freemail" or "GMail".

This is not 100% but it would deter most primitive trolls.

As long as LEGIT users... they can post what they really believe.

If you remember Amer or Peter Szudyka or Szemi - I wasn't approving many of their views. Precisely like the Fomenko's history views Rote sometimes tells.

But they (as non-trolls) entitled to express their views.

Ataman said "If we want really to annoy that person we probably should ignore him."

I agree.

I'm remembering a bit more about him. This troll is approaching 50 years of age, by now. Hard to believe that a middle age male would spend countless hours on the internet trolling.

I don't know if he is a sociopath although this kind of perverted behavior can escalate. I do believe he has issues with social interactions and he is most likely a sadomasochist.

Only mistake that was made were allowing serbs to exist in Northen Kosovo. But that we will take care of. One way or another. Macedonia will become a third Albanian state in a couple of years. Those land belong to the Albanian people, then slavs came from asia and started to invade our territory. We are going to take our land back again. It belongs to its rightful owners.

serbs are foreigners to the balkan pennisula. Its not your home, never been and will never be your home either. You came here in the 6th century as invaders and you will be removed as the invaders you all are.

NO! ONLY YOU WILL MAKE THE FU..ING MISTAKE!!!

AND YOU WILL PAY A PRICE THAT IS GOING TO DRAIN YOU DRY!

YOUR HEARING IT FROM RIGHT HERE, THE GOOD OLD U.S.A!!!

Only mistake that was made were allowing serbs to exist in Northen Kosovo. But that we will take care of. One way or another. Macedonia will become a third Albanian state in a couple of years. Those land belong to the Albanian people, then slavs came from asia and started to invade our territory. We are going to take our land back again. It belongs to its rightful owners.

serbs are foreigners to the balkan pennisula. Its not your home, never been and will never be your home either. You came here in the 6th century as invaders and you will be removed as the invaders you all are.
(Victorty1999, 2 February 2018 11:08)

Ok we arrived in the 6 century, but show proof that Albos have been there before the Serbs. You have NOTHING, not even a fossilized toothpick, cave painting or building to substantiate your claim to have been living there since time immoral LOL.

North stays in Serbia and retains the name Kosovo, profit share on trepca, holy sites with unimpeded access and protection.
That realistically is the deal that should be done. We don't want to live with those Kosovo Albanians, and they don't want to live in Serbia.

again I have to ask, where does the idea that Serbs and Albanians are the two greatest nastions in the Balkans come from? Greeks are larger in population than both

"we have to find a compromise, where the Albanians and the Serbs will have to make concessions"

Vucic, is like a leech that keeps coming back, hoping to suck some more blood. Nobody in the EU would ever take him seriously with these "concessions". Serbia has no right to ask for concessions when it is still occupying the Albanian territories in Presheva and Sanxhak.

Ok we arrived in the 6 century, but show proof that Albos have been there before the Serbs. You have NOTHING, not even a fossilized toothpick, cave painting or building to substantiate your claim to have been living there since time immoral LOL.
(sj, 2 February 2018 12:07) # Comment


@ sj

There is a kebab kiosk in tirana from the 1950`s and the bill clinton statue. And there was talk of a wooly mammoth, but sadly it turned out to be just some talibanian beauty contestant from the 1950`s grave site.

In Azerbaijan they found lots of talibanian artifacts, clay burial jars cobani text carved into stone tablets. Which clearly shows they spoke cromag jezik until the 1800`s.

Greeks, Romanians and Albanians are the largest individual ethnic groups in the Balkans not Serbs. As a collective southern Slavs are still smaller in number compared to the other three native groups put together. Vucic trying to puff his chest and create issus where there should be none. Albanians have already said they are done fighting, just like everyone else in the region. The future of the Balkans is diplomacy not war. Kosovo is an issue that needs to be sorted by Pristina and Belgrade no one else.

serbs are foreigners to the balkan pennisula. Its not your home, never been and will never be your home either. You came here in the 6th century as invaders and you will be removed as the invaders you all are.
(Victorty1999, 2 February 2018 11:08)

Stop pretending you are Albanian. You are an other incarnation of Danilo, a Serb troll.

Known as Azir - Avni - Rocky (and how many more names? Maybe even Lenard).
Sramota to you, go back to your cave, neanderthal.

The solution is there and it`s clear for everyone: Serbia in EU, Kosovo in UN.

They will continue with smoke and mirrors by saying "We won`t join EU if we have to recognize Kosovo" to make themselves look like heroes defending Serbia.

That is BS. No one is asking Serbia to recognize Kosovo. No one cares Serbia recognizes Kosovo or not. What EU is asking is a legal biding document Serbia and Kosovo resolving all their bilateral problems and further more Kosovo UN seat. That`s the end of the story. Sign the paper and get over it with this "recognition" BS from both sides. Belgrade has already accepted the reality in Kosovo since K.Serbs backed by Belgrade are in Kosovo Parliament, Kosovo Police Force, Kosovo Government, Kosovo Judicial system. No further recognition is needed.

That is BS. No one is asking Serbia to recognize Kosovo. No one cares Serbia recognizes Kosovo or not. What EU is asking is a legal biding document Serbia and Kosovo resolving all their bilateral problems and further more Kosovo UN seat. That`s the end of the story. Sign the paper and get over it with this "recognition" BS from both sides. Belgrade has already accepted the reality in Kosovo since K.Serbs backed by Belgrade are in Kosovo Parliament, Kosovo Police Force, Kosovo Government, Kosovo Judicial system. No further recognition is needed.
(Free, 2 February 2018 19:42)

@free - Wrong! If Serbia has recognized, why is Pristina and west working so hard to get them to recognize? You're disillusioned, Homer!

The matter has been resolved by the most ancient means possible. WAR.

NATO did it and still hold the power.

What people think about it is a different matter, but mainly the problem is in the minds of people.

The solution to that is to change your mind. Bribery sometimes works.

"Without Serbia there is no UN membership, without Serbia there is no Intrpol membership, without Serbia there are no state visits to China," Vucic emphasized."

Dont worry about those organisations. Kosovo will sooner or later join them all one way or another. Yes China is the place where everyone wants to go and visit....

North stays in Serbia and retains the name Kosovo, profit share on trepca, holy sites with unimpeded access and protection.
That realistically is the deal that should be done. We don't want to live with those Kosovo Albanians, and they don't want to live in Serbia.
(Helsingborg., 2 February 2018 11:24)

@ It hurts to say or think, but this scenario is very realistic. The extreme negative of this is it still validates theft of one's property and gives extremists the green light that overpopulating a region gives them the right to declare "independence" and start a "country"...The International community that does not recognize "kosova" and have their own issues with minorities most likely will not approve of this scenario.

Who on earth is this Victory1999?

Dude Serbs and Albanans have and will live in Balkans forget 6th century!!!
(Bilbao, 2 February 2018 17:49)

New name but most likely an other version of old Danilo.
B92's plague for years.

As usual, these "Albanians" will fail some basic "albaniannes"-tests.
But they would proclaim, Kosova do Tokija (but at least up to Nis).

Many common signs. Danilo is a likely suspect, he is as Albanian as my Russian salad.

Serbia may not have to officially recognize Kosovo but it will have to agree to where the border is in any agreement and respect it. ( De facto recognition)

I know there are those who are going to point to the Croatian/Slovenian border issue. The difference is that the disputed land is 50 to 100 meters either way and involve 35 families plus the water boundary.

While in Kosovo the border line is a difference of an extra 10,900 km2 land that would be part of the EU and an extra 2 million citizens not 35 families.
Those extra citizens would mean extra Members of European Parliament for Serbia ( more then the 6 minimum) plus extra funds from the EU.

With the recent comments from Spain that will be worked out to be included in the agreement to Spain’s satisfaction. Plus if both Serbia and Kosovo agree to a plan Spain will be under extreme pressure not to stop it. The only thing that Spain’s involvement will do is delay the process, it will not stop it.

To Ataman and also B92

I propose that B92 add a photo of the poster next to his or her post, kinda like in F.B. , I gladly give you my permission B92 to use my F.B. cover photo showing my Serbian Face. In reality it would be nice to see each other how we really look ! It's just an idea and like I say little old me has nothing to hide !!!

can someone give me a link of the Serbian governance program ?

i am curious what plans are for Serbia

Dear Serb people, maybe I'm wrong, but why M. Vucic never talks about the Trepca mines? I mean: Trepca mines are Serbia's property, isn't it? Also, Trepca mines has a lot of economic potential, isn't it?

Nikolle maybe he means TWO BIGGEST DAMN FOOLS.

Ataman, be more specific please when you talk about early ages in Balkans,do you refuse the fact that serbs are slavics?
(Gyorgy Mically, 2 February 2018 20:39)

Hülyeség - ezt meg mér is tenném? T.k. azok.

@B92.

I am very sorry, but this is very-very frustrating.

I am posting here for well over 10 years, we are still waiting for an adequate authentication system.

I don't mind to debate with Rote or Roberto - but I really want to know, it's indeed "Rote" or "Roberto".

These are merely examples, both users are unique enough. But there are countless others which are definitively trolls.

There is no point to feed the trolls - and these not only do not add any value to your site, they scare off legit users.

Good example is Betsy Laich. She has views I largely dispute. But she is 100% legit. And seeing what is going on she disappeared for good. That loss is your loss.

An other problem is the posting process. It is very buggy, there is about 60-70% chance that a posting simply won't go through.

Thanks.

Profit share on Trepça. Lol.
That complex is a sh*thole that needs at least a billion EUR to bring it back from the dead. What profit?


Sincerely,

Sorry Danilo Danilovic Danilov.
That a troll who trolling with a Hungarian name would stuck at Google translator. .
(Je¿ albañski, wêgierski, dañilski i g³upi,)
Very bad policing for a experienced police officer. Do you agree? Once more, I'am not trolling dude, I am just a Vushtrri guy who worked several years next to where river Sitinicë and Ibër joins together.

I don't think i need to "keep telling myself". I talk what i see. I see Serbs in Southern Kosovo trying to build their lives in the new state of Kosovo.

And i see N.Kosovo Serbs being left by Belgrade in the hands of local criminal bands who are killing everyone standing in their way. And they have to choose to continue live like that or be totally integrated with the rest Kosovo. And they don`t seem very happy with being under "protection" of criminal gangs.

Meanwhile i think someone else here keep telling themselves "Tomorrow EU/US will crumble. Tomorrow US/EU will beg us to join them. Tomorrow Russia/China/Japan will make Serbia richer than Switzerland. Tomorrow +100 countries will take back recognition of Kosovo... We`ll just have to wait...like we did for almost past 20 years.... or for another 500 years".

Be my guests. Keep calm and keep waiting.

"When he was prime minister we could not see president on tv, now when he is president we could not see prime minister. Always Vucic, Serbia has become private state of Vucic's family.
(Andrija, 2 February 2018 12:10) # Comment link"

Exactly. He is a very sick individual. Just listen to him talk and his mannerisms. The media is under his control there is a complete blockade. He sold out many things with this brussels agreement and everything his mentors ordered him to do. Like the manipulations when he was there for the marathon talks he had to sleep on the floor with no blanket and it was cold, it wasnt easy it was very difficult, but he was there fighting for serbs... This brussels agreement has been very detrimental to serbs in kosmet. If you analyse it is satanic what hes doing.. He sells out his people-the very people hes supposed to protect- then he goes down there to visit the poor people and presents homself as their saviour. It appears hes at the end, but its interesting now his mentors are not 100% sure hes going to deliver the final blow.

>>>Hülyeség - ezt meg mér is tenném? T.k. azok.

Pardon my bad French. In this AoT game (Age of Trolls) if I see a knew character with some interesting nick I have to test certain things. It's a double trick where a simple Google translate is not enough for a little reason. Aplogies ;-)

@Ataman

thank you for your contribution, and your feedback.

We acknowledge any frustration with the comments system - none is perfect - however, our system is "system-wide" - i.e., it works for the whole website, not just the English language section of it. For our part, we here at b92.net/english are well aware, grateful for, and taking into consideration all the feedback we are receiving concerning this particular issue.

As for any technical problems you may encounter while posting your comments - we would appreciate it very much if you would report these instances, with relevant details (platform, OS, browser).

Regards,

@ Ataman What kept you silent and prevented you by disputing in a civilized manner Ms. Lalich's ideas? Her loss is my loss I guess since I'm the only one who has disputed her ideas in a not civilized manner. What makes you think that just the fact that somebody undersigns with his her real name is a guarantee that that somebody won't be trolling? Cause it happens, you can sign your comment and still be trolling and the fact that you undersigned with your real name is not a disclaimer for trolling activities. In an ideal parallel world nobody would ever need to hide under pseudonyms but we don't live in an ideal world. We live in a world where you Ataman are aware that those mafia guys are not a fairy tale, they are real people with real interests who can threaten and kill everyone who dares raise their voice. Traitor writings, who is your father, why dont you write with your real name, I'm one of those openly threatened here and under harassment in facebook since I dared post an anti Rama comment. And Im not crying about it but why would my children pay with their lives just because babi budalla wants to write two words now and then on internet? So it is a complicated issue I think.

Hülyeség - ezt meg mér is tenném? T.k. azok.
(Ataman)
?! in English please, I am a Vushtrri guy given third eye only. Google translation makes no sense to what you wrote in "gullashski".
(Gyorgy Mically, 3 February 2018 07:30)

Sorry Danilo Danilovic Danilov.

Precisely that was the point.
That a troll who trolling with a Hungarian name would stuck at Google translator.

A real Hungarian would answer both questions like 1-2-3.

Next time chose your names better and try your luck somewhere else.


(And take your Yoni, C*nt of Kosova, Azir, Avni, Lenard and all the other nicks with you).

You failed twice in the row. Are you into BDSM or what? Do you really enjoy being beaten, being hated? Do you seriously believed that an obviously fake Hungarian name would do some tricks? Maybe try next time something Russian, who knows...

"Croatian", "Hungarian" and "Albanian" story is over...

Idiot.

Maybe you should talk to Roger7, too.

North stays in Serbia and retains the name Kosovo, profit share on trepca, holy sites with unimpeded access and protection.
That realistically is the deal that should be done. We don't want to live with those Kosovo Albanians, and they don't want to live in Serbia.
(Helsingborg., 2 February 2018 11:24)

The extreme negative of this is it still validates theft of one's property
(Watcher, 2 February 2018 17:39)

No dear, what Helsingborg proposed nowhere validates validates your theft of one's property

When he was prime minister we could not see president on tv, now when he is president we could not see prime minister. Always Vucic, Serbia has become private state of Vucic's family.

There is of course a little challenge, too - not going to be solved by Google translator.
In my response (like that Vucitrn-Skenderbeu-Cognac) there is a little trick.

People rarely log in here with names. Your name is both typical and not. Given your name you got the response the way it is. But if you are for real, you should tell me, what that little "t.k." is.

Not a perfect challenge of course. If you are for real, you will know it immediately. If you are from that AoT game - at least you will need some work to solve that challenge.

Good luck!

Otherwise Roger7 is our AoT specialist, I am merely his assistant ;-)

Hope one day B92 will have some better authentication.

Gyorgy,

Is Orbángutáng a sneci or Simicska or someone else?

You should answer that question like 1-2-3.

Ataman, why you are so irritated just because I use a Hungarian ruski name?

Your correct Ataman, but if every one was honest and straight forward it would be nice to at least see how we all look in real life ! Some times words are meaningless unless a face back them up, pretty much like you hear a song but never see who is singing it. Well I guess it really does not matter how the person looks singing the song as long as the melody and poetry rhyme !!!

What about this Serbs? You're showing your true face far too often.

Javnost zgrožena beogradskim skupom podrške Milanu Nediću http://avaz.ba/region/srbija/347825/javnost-zgrozena-beogradskim-skupom-podrske-milanu-nedicu

Who on earth is this Victory1999?

Dude Serbs and Albanans have and will live in Balkans forget 6th century!!!

Hülyeség - ezt meg mér is tenném? T.k. azok.
(Ataman)
?! in English please, I am a Vushtrri guy given third eye only. Google translation makes no sense to what you wrote in "gullashski".

Victorty1999
if you want to propel Albanian rights dont do it by attacking the right of Macedonia as a sovereign and Independent state or anyone for that matter

Dragoljub Djurkovic,
How would one know the person in the photo is actually you. For all we know it could be Baba Vanga in the photo.
(Ataman, 5 February 2018 10:44)
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People don't always have photos of themselves on FB page. Privacy is precious and not everyone wants to share equally.
It's always best to be as discreet as you can. It's not smart to give away too much information.

Ataman, be more specific please when you talk about early ages in Balkans,do you refuse the fact that serbs are slavics?

Ataman- I'm just a keen observer and a life-long student of human behavior. A person who has spent years trolling on B92 can't have a very productive and meaningful life. This troll needs professional help. Bravo to you for trying to promote constructive dialogue.

To Ataman and also B92

I propose that B92 add a photo of the poster next to his or her post, kinda like in F.B. , I gladly give you my permission B92 to use my F.B. cover photo showing my Serbian Face. In reality it would be nice to see each other how we really look ! It's just an idea and like I say little old me has nothing to hide !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 3 February 2018 13:36)


Dragoljub Djurkovic,
How would one know the person in the photo is actually you. For all we know it could be Baba Vanga in the photo.

Your correct Ataman
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 5 February 2018 13:39)

That was not my post. Danilka is active. And it's an other proof that something needs to be done better.

A "real" registration will do OK.
In particular, if B92 won't accept any registration from a free e-mail, only e-mails pointing to a valid company and/or internet provider domain.

The registration would mean people get a secret "moniker" easy to remember - but quite unique. That secret "moniker" should be included in each posting to B92 (and only B92 can see it).

For instance, Avni would get something like "donkey123".
I would get something like "jez456".

No one can see "donkey" or "jez" - only B92.

Of course, I could post as Avni. But since the only "monikers" (call them "passwords") I know are the ones sent to my e-mail (as said: only "real" e-mail would be accepted) I have to use the "jez456".

The system would still accept the post... and amend it with something funny like:

"written by Ataman who dreams to be Avni".

It's of course not an unbreakable way - but does not require many resources from B92 and will prevent a great number of trollings.

The goal is not to prevent it 100% - just make it hard enough.

Javnost zgrožena beogradskim skupom podrške Milanu Nediću [link]
(Avni, 5 February 2018 22:41)

Gee... these "Albanians" don't know much about Vushtrri - but are quite good in Serbian.
They are probably in love with some Serbian magarac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKWLC87Uzw

IAAAAAAA.

Roger,

What is the name of a person who:

- Tries to offend as many people as possible and enjoys it.
- Has at least a half-dozen nicks (or more?)
- Pretends to be the one he is not
- Every single post of him is bullying
- The side-effect is to spark more conflicts, make Serbs hate Albanians and v.v - but that is not the main goal. The main goal is to entertain himself, he needs that kind of feeling, otherwise he is bored.

The name of such person is a psychopath.

I posted a few writings about donkeys, probably just to make the guy even happier (he needs that kind of negative thing).

If we want really to annoy that person we probably should ignore him.

He became the scourge of B92. B92 would be wise to implement an authentication system, for their own benefit.

As for any technical problems you may encounter while posting your comments - we would appreciate it very much if you would report these instances, with relevant details (platform, OS, browser).

Regards,
(B92, 3 February 2018 15:32)

B92,

I tried several browsers (Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Opera) - the posting problem is not browser-dependent. What happens quite often: the post of < 1500 char would simply not go through and the entire web site re-load, including the failed post.

The nick of the poster as well as the captcha would be cleared.

What will work is if I edit the posting. Change in citing some other post, changing the "" into something else or removing them often works.

I believe, the problem is in the internal text-analyzer (if you have any). If you don't - beats me.

Still, the success of a posting going through or not largely depends of the text. Changing something completely innocent often does the job.

If I am in BG I can gladly demonstrate you the problem in person.

Thanks!

@ Ataman What kept you silent and prevented you by disputing in a civilized manner Ms. Lalich's ideas? Her loss is my loss I guess since I'm the only one who has disputed her ideas in a not civilized manner.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 3 February 2018 17:43)

I don't remember you arguing with her, I did not pay much attention on that.
Much of this site is destroyed by some psychopath.

Nearly all conversations are being "steered" away from the topic.

In your case it is exceptionally pity as you are (or seem to be?) one of very few genuinely-appearing Albanians.

The "rest" is a single psychopath who has pretty much nothing to do with KS or AL.

Ms. Lalich - for good or bad - got scared from precisely THAT.

As far as I recall she essentially exploded on a very much real Serbian person (Zoran maybe?) whom I know from outside B92.

The entire environment needs a strong improvement.

I think, proper registration / authentication process would work OK.

Even not all posts here are mine (the one about "Baba" was not from me).


The ones with "Je¿", or magarac / donkey are mine. "Je¿" has an old story here on B92. And the donkey topic seem to endlessly annoy our friend.

Me thinks... he is here to get the proper BDSM treatment and beating, not?
I just helping him with all these donkeys, to get his money / time worth on B92.
Otherwise he would complain about bad customer service: no Je¿ / donkey / magarac?

How come?

People don't always have photos of themselves on FB page. Privacy is precious and not everyone wants to share equally.
(Peggy, 6 February 2018 11:31)

- That was a fake "Ataman" by the way.
- Completely agree with you.
- The solution to this entire psychopath Avni / Lenard / Azir / Count / Victory1999 / Sam / Joni / (how many more?) problem is the proper authentication.

If I am B92 I would accept postings from registered users only.
Is a user registered or not will be known from his posting because he would be required to submit along with his posting his "access code" to B92.

Each registered user would have a different (but permanent) access code, known by him and B92 only.

That "access code" would be submitted by B92 via one-time (user's choice!)

- SMS message for Serbs, Kosovars
- It could be a PayPal transaction code (say, 50 U.S. Cent one-time payment) for people who do not have / want to use mobile
- It could be a simple e-mail message but only corporate or provider-based e-mail addresses can be used, not like "Freemail" or "GMail".

This is not 100% but it would deter most primitive trolls.

As long as LEGIT users... they can post what they really believe.

If you remember Amer or Peter Szudyka or Szemi - I wasn't approving many of their views. Precisely like the Fomenko's history views Rote sometimes tells.

But they (as non-trolls) entitled to express their views.

Ataman,
I see that you continuously insist for some kind of control for the readers posting here. So, honestly, are/were you a police officer, and are/were you staying in Kosovo?

Ataman said "If we want really to annoy that person we probably should ignore him."

I agree.

I'm remembering a bit more about him. This troll is approaching 50 years of age, by now. Hard to believe that a middle age male would spend countless hours on the internet trolling.

I don't know if he is a sociopath although this kind of perverted behavior can escalate. I do believe he has issues with social interactions and he is most likely a sadomasochist.