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Friday, 19.01.2018.

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EU "won't accept countries with open issues with neighbors"

EU Commissioner Johannes Hahn says 2025 is "a realistic goal for a new wave of (EU) enlargement.)

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Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 6 godina

They should immediately suspend Croatia for not abiding by the international court findings in respect of its border with Slovenia. But of course they wont't... Austro-Germany's protection of their Croatian lapdogs is ever preent.

sj

pre 6 godina

Just because you decide to dispute something, dear, does not make it disputed for everybody!
(icj1, 21 January 2018 03:18)

Well if Kosovo is not disputed then why are you on B92 dear LOL? Trying to convince who? Yourself? LOL

The problem is that you have no knowledge or depth except to repeat inane statements, but according to the US Kosovo is a hot bed of terrorists and the State Department had late last week issued to all American citizens to avoid going to Kosovo and if there to leave.

Pardon my French...

pre 6 godina

Let me explain the half-joke, not everyone is mighty in Cyrillic.

"деньги" does mean "money", so does "пара".
Amazingly, the Kazakh national currency (Tenge) is of the same origin.

Neither Kazakh nor Russian word is native - it is of Mongolian origin.

So that means, for extensive period of time both Kazakh and Russian people were influenced by Mongolian / Chinese economics.

The same time Serbian word for the same thing is of Turkish origin. Kazakhs are Turkoman people - but THEIR word is Mongolian, not Turkish.

That means, Serbs for extensive period of time had extensive Turkish (economic and political) influence, while Turkish people of Kazakhstan had Mongolian.

This is completely in-line with classic history books... and Fomenko would have a difficulty to address that problem.

The other part of the joke is about cider + mumm versus the wine + ladies.

No matter, how cheap is a wine... IMO it still beats the cider. Of course, the most important person in your life is your mom. But unless your name is Oedipus, you better to look for some other ladies to continue your genetic line ;-)

Фоменко

pre 6 godina

There is one interesting thing.

The word "Деньги" same as the name of the Kazakh national currency is clearly of Mongolian origin.

On the other side, the Serbian equivalent the people use to say is "Пара" (by co-incident, it used to be 100 Пара = 1 Дин). And it's of Turkish origin.

This somewhat defies Fomenko... because "" and "Para" was adopted one way, not the other.

Of course, it's not the most important thing. But try to survive without "Деньги" or "Пара" and you will feel quite bad.

Sorry to be so material... but as it being said:

If you have one, than "вино и дамы".
If you don't - than "сидро и мама".

Ataman

pre 6 godina

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(rote, 21 January 2018 14:47)

Rote,

I can accept theoretically any ideas, even the flat Earth.

However, I demand from an idea that it solves more questions than the one it generates.

I cannot dispute ANYTHING from Fomenko in earnest.

Only ONE thing. Namely, that his ideas do solve NOTHING. But they generate about a million new questions.

And HE (not me, not you!) has the burden to answer them.

As long as he cannot - I can't accept his ideas (pretty much like the "Flat Earth").

The difference is that to make "Flat Earth" look silly is about 1 minute.

Fomenko is a bit more tough, but just a little bit.

rote

pre 6 godina

Serbia suffered more than enough in Turkey federation and Yugoslavian federation. Previously Moesia suffered in Roman empire federation so much that even doesn't exist anymore. Therefore Serbia does not need any federation anymore. Period.
(Moesian, 20 January 2018 22:32)

1. SERBIA SUFFERED FROM THE OTTOMANS BUT NEVER FROM TURKEY CREATED IN 1918. SERBS RULED THE OTTOMANS BEFORE 1826 WHEN OUR YANISSARIES WERE MASSACRED AND REPLACED BY NORTH CAUCASIANS, OSMANI LANGUAGE HAD ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TURKISH INVENTED IN 1923 BY TWO RUSSIAN PROFESSORS.

2. THERE WAS ONLY ONE ROMAN EMPIRE. IT CAPITOL WAS VELIKI NOVGOROD AND AFTER 1613 IN STANBUL = TSARGRAD. VATICAN ROME IS A FAKE STORY. CHURCH SERBIAN CALLED SLOVENSKI WAS OFFICIAL IN TOP KAPI SARAY AND IN THE HIGH COURT OF CONSTANTINOPLE. BEFORE 17 CENTURY THE OSMANS WERE ALL ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS. EVERYONE TO HURT A CHURCH WOULD DIE EVEN IN 18-19 CNTURIES.

3. SPLITTING AWAY FROM THE OTTOMANS WAS A BIG MISTAKE OF ALL BALKAN PEOPLES. THE FILM BELOW I WATCH AS HISTORY OF MEDIAEVAL RUS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm3_afteYo0

Peggy

pre 6 godina

"We certainly will not accept those countries that have open issues with their neighbors.
===================
How convenient, NOW.

icj1

pre 6 godina

So, at the end of the day, Kosovo is a disputed Serbian province, whatever I say or you say.
(Staff, 20 January 2018 21:47)

Well, that's according to you and Serbia and you and Serbia are certainly entitled to your opinions. As for me, I'm not aware that "Kosovo is a disputed Serbian province". And according to Kosovo and another 100+ countries in the world, Kosovo is not a disputed Serbian province. And even according to Russia, Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it.

Just because you decide to dispute something, dear, does not make it disputed for everybody!

Moesian

pre 6 godina

Just leave Serbia alone u the EU Commissioner Johannes Hahn. Serbia suffered more than enough in Turkey federation and Yugoslavian federation. Previously Moesia suffered in Roman empire federation so much that even doesn't exist anymore. Therefore Serbia does not need any federation anymore. Period.

Staff

pre 6 godina

”If that were a domestic problem, the UNSC would not have passed UNSCR 1244 despite Serbia begging the UNSC members to not approve UNSCR 1244 because, according to Serbia, UNSCR 1244 provides for the creation of a
separate political and economic system in the province and opens up the possibility of the secession of Kosovo and Metohija from Serbia and the FRY.
(icj1, 20 January 2018 16:43)”

You are partly right icj1, but you forget one crucial thing. UNSCR 1244 is where it is and will not be changed (”open up possibility”) if the Security Councils permanent 5 member states does not agree. And we all know that they do not.
So, at the end of the day, Kosovo is a disputed Serbian province, whatever I say or you say. Will it change? I do not know, even if I probably know 1000 times more than you about this topic since I work with it every day.
I know one thing. No one alive today will be around to see Kosovo beeing a state of its own.

icj1

pre 6 godina

The EU are hypocrites - they accepted Croatia despite its issues with Slovenia and Serbia, and even some with BiH.
(ida, 20 January 2018 04:45)

That's does not mean being a hypocrite; that means learning from past mistakes and making changes accordingly for the future to not repeat those mistakes, again. That's how countries progress, but I understand that that concept might be alien to you :)

icj1

pre 6 godina

as far as Serbia is concerned, they have only a domestic problem with their province of Kosovo.
(Staff, 20 January 2018 10:08)

If that were a domestic problem, the UNSC would not have passed UNSCR 1244 despite Serbia begging the UNSC members to not approve UNSCR 1244 because, according to Serbia, UNSCR 1244 provides for the creation of a
separate political and economic system in the province and opens up the possibility of the secession of Kosovo and Metohija from Serbia and the FRY.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

The countries in EU which look good would look good without EU, too.

We live part-time in such a country and we are nearly 100% personally satisfied.

To bad, it is not regarded as Serbia's friend (but under the cover nearly everyone here is a major fan of Russia, some even of Putin - what I do not like).

It has a young and quite sympathetic leader. That narrows to a single country, I think.


The countries in EU which do not look good - would not fare much better or worse without it.

Except, we could not move part-time to a place in EU what we like (much) more, than Hungary. It is not easy to get a residence permit with American or Russian passport. Hungarian comes handy.

That's the *** SINGLE *** benefit of EU - for us.

And that kids can live, study and work where they want there.

Albanians will immediately troll back: "than move back to Russia or US".

Sorry - please convince my wife first. It's my burden to deal with her, not yours!

Staff

pre 6 godina

All countries in the Balkans have some problem, no doubt. But as far as Serbia is concerned, they have only a domestic problem with their province of Kosovo. No border problem. And a domestic problem, well, many countries in the EU have that. Look at Spain for example in Catalonia, i e Barcelona. No big deal. Stay on the track Serbia, stay on the track.

Sam

pre 6 godina

For most Serbs, that's what we are hoping. The accession process will modernise our country while the EU pays for it. We are quite happy withdrawing millions from accession funds indefinitely but hopefully never joining the EU.

Very well said
this should be the agenda of all Balkan States after all the rest of the EU have been sponging of the 4 major economy's for decades

Avni

pre 6 godina

Bad news for Albanians who have open issues with all their neighbors, including Italy. I really don't know why Albanians here are cheering.
(Navi, 19 January 2018 15:42)

First: you should worry about Serbia. I guess you know what this means, recognition. Second: You gave a bad example, I guess you forgot Italy invaded/occupied Albania in 1939. This means Albania can sue Italy for invasion, war damages, etc. Look at what Greeks are doing these days, asking Germany to pay for war damages.

rote

pre 6 godina

Bad news for Albanians who have open issues with all their neighbors, including Italy. I really don't know why Albanians here are cheering.
(Navi, 19 January 2018 15:42)

Washington is the capitol of EU/NATO ...

Navi

pre 6 godina

Bad news for Albanians who have open issues with all their neighbors, including Italy. I really don't know why Albanians here are cheering.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

sj

Enjoy being an isolated poor rat hole with dying population and a bleak future.

That does fit you pretty well actually. No one wants you in Eu anyway
(www, 19 January 2018 12:12)

@www - lol, a little "sour grapes" going on there? lol, Srbija is prime investment territory and investments coming in from all over the world...and you talking about joining the EU? Why would they want to put limits on their growth and potential?
It must hurt to read the news nowadays for you! lol

Zoran

pre 6 godina

EU has no intention of admitting Serbia as a member of the club. If Serbia can't see this...
(The Count of Kosova, 19 January 2018 12:52)
--
For most Serbs, that's what we are hoping. The accession process will modernise our country while the EU pays for it. We are quite happy withdrawing millions from accession funds indefinitely but hopefully never joining the EU.

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 19 January 2018 12:52)

I maybe dim-witted but by God I get paid a s*** load of money for what I do. The EU tried to isolating Serbia at the start telling it nothing will happen unless they recognise Kosovo so when that failed they began the talks. Every now and then we hear from a politician about recognition, but the talks continue, and they will.

What would the EU do if after all these talks Serbia still said no recognition and good-bye EU? The EU would crap itself. Ask yourself what is more valuable Serbia or Kosovo? The US has already started to sell you guys out just look at the US Ambassador in Pristina statements LOL.

You are living in the 1990s and the US could not isolate the flue let alone Serbia.

“US will isolate any country including Serbia being willfully manipulated by Russia, in order to curry favor from a dictator”

This is right out of some US media site – its 100% pure drivel.

If you are interested I can post for you the latest financial and military information on the US and you will see why I always say the United States of Piss and Wind.

sj

pre 6 godina

(www, 19 January 2018 12:12)

Well if you enjoy Kosova ghetto I’m happy. In 1990 there were 2 million Albos, today more than 500,000 officially do not live there. Personally, I think it less than 1 million. The west loves to hide these things since its not a good look.

What do Albos offer to the EU? Law and Order LOL? Well educated workforce? The EU refuses to recognise anything from Albania or Kosovo universities LOL.

So, what else do you have to offer? Huge number of Albos incarcerated throughout the EU? Yes; Criminal activity? Plenty, more than everyone else put together.

Yes, I can see why they don’t want Serbs LOL.

Mir

pre 6 godina

No win situation for Serbs.

They don’t deal with their neighbours and no EU

They deal with their neighbors and bye bye Kosovo and border with Croatia gets a little smaller.

Trust me when I say they will follow the money trail right to the EU!

www

pre 6 godina

sj

Enjoy being an isolated poor rat hole with dying population and a bleak future.

That does fit you pretty well actually. No one wants you in Eu anyway

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

If this is a signal for Serbia to recognize Kosovo then they are going to be sadly disappointed. If the EU is that strong it would have demanded Serbia recognize Kosovo before talks began, but they are not and even in the end when all the talks are finished Serbia will say NO.
(sj, 19 January 2018 11:35)


sj,
What you fail to grasp, my dimwitted little friend, is that the EU has no intention of admitting Serbia as a member of the club. If Serbia can't see this, then she is more naive than I believed. The US will isolate any country including Serbia being willfully manipulated by Russia, in order to curry favor from a dictator. Oh the tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.

Ian

pre 6 godina

The EU itself may not even exist in 2025. Is there really a supurb rule of law in france, germany or belgium? Seema to me they have endangered their citizens and put them second in order to allow muslim invaders into their countries. They really do not have room to preach. They are promoting globalist values. This is the perfect way for classic european and american elites to control entire continents without firing one bullet. Im still unsure why the european union has to exist if not for the very reason of centralizing control to a few elites. Instead of being free to male your own decisions, trade with who you want amd control your own destiny the EU shuts you out unless you do as they say. Does not sound very appealing unless you just cant make any good decisiona on your own.

sj

pre 6 godina

Han talks a lot of crap most of the time. If you look at Slovenia and Croatia. Both have border disputes. Then Croatia has not settled border issues with Serbia or BiH.

If this is a signal for Serbia to recognize Kosovo then they are going to be sadly disappointed. If the EU is that strong it would have demanded Serbia recognize Kosovo before talks began, but they are not and even in the end when all the talks are finished Serbia will say NO.

Ian

pre 6 godina

The EU itself may not even exist in 2025. Is there really a supurb rule of law in france, germany or belgium? Seema to me they have endangered their citizens and put them second in order to allow muslim invaders into their countries. They really do not have room to preach. They are promoting globalist values. This is the perfect way for classic european and american elites to control entire continents without firing one bullet. Im still unsure why the european union has to exist if not for the very reason of centralizing control to a few elites. Instead of being free to male your own decisions, trade with who you want amd control your own destiny the EU shuts you out unless you do as they say. Does not sound very appealing unless you just cant make any good decisiona on your own.

www

pre 6 godina

sj

Enjoy being an isolated poor rat hole with dying population and a bleak future.

That does fit you pretty well actually. No one wants you in Eu anyway

sj

pre 6 godina

Han talks a lot of crap most of the time. If you look at Slovenia and Croatia. Both have border disputes. Then Croatia has not settled border issues with Serbia or BiH.

If this is a signal for Serbia to recognize Kosovo then they are going to be sadly disappointed. If the EU is that strong it would have demanded Serbia recognize Kosovo before talks began, but they are not and even in the end when all the talks are finished Serbia will say NO.

Navi

pre 6 godina

Bad news for Albanians who have open issues with all their neighbors, including Italy. I really don't know why Albanians here are cheering.

Mir

pre 6 godina

No win situation for Serbs.

They don’t deal with their neighbours and no EU

They deal with their neighbors and bye bye Kosovo and border with Croatia gets a little smaller.

Trust me when I say they will follow the money trail right to the EU!

sj

pre 6 godina

(www, 19 January 2018 12:12)

Well if you enjoy Kosova ghetto I’m happy. In 1990 there were 2 million Albos, today more than 500,000 officially do not live there. Personally, I think it less than 1 million. The west loves to hide these things since its not a good look.

What do Albos offer to the EU? Law and Order LOL? Well educated workforce? The EU refuses to recognise anything from Albania or Kosovo universities LOL.

So, what else do you have to offer? Huge number of Albos incarcerated throughout the EU? Yes; Criminal activity? Plenty, more than everyone else put together.

Yes, I can see why they don’t want Serbs LOL.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

If this is a signal for Serbia to recognize Kosovo then they are going to be sadly disappointed. If the EU is that strong it would have demanded Serbia recognize Kosovo before talks began, but they are not and even in the end when all the talks are finished Serbia will say NO.
(sj, 19 January 2018 11:35)


sj,
What you fail to grasp, my dimwitted little friend, is that the EU has no intention of admitting Serbia as a member of the club. If Serbia can't see this, then she is more naive than I believed. The US will isolate any country including Serbia being willfully manipulated by Russia, in order to curry favor from a dictator. Oh the tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

EU has no intention of admitting Serbia as a member of the club. If Serbia can't see this...
(The Count of Kosova, 19 January 2018 12:52)
--
For most Serbs, that's what we are hoping. The accession process will modernise our country while the EU pays for it. We are quite happy withdrawing millions from accession funds indefinitely but hopefully never joining the EU.

Staff

pre 6 godina

”If that were a domestic problem, the UNSC would not have passed UNSCR 1244 despite Serbia begging the UNSC members to not approve UNSCR 1244 because, according to Serbia, UNSCR 1244 provides for the creation of a
separate political and economic system in the province and opens up the possibility of the secession of Kosovo and Metohija from Serbia and the FRY.
(icj1, 20 January 2018 16:43)”

You are partly right icj1, but you forget one crucial thing. UNSCR 1244 is where it is and will not be changed (”open up possibility”) if the Security Councils permanent 5 member states does not agree. And we all know that they do not.
So, at the end of the day, Kosovo is a disputed Serbian province, whatever I say or you say. Will it change? I do not know, even if I probably know 1000 times more than you about this topic since I work with it every day.
I know one thing. No one alive today will be around to see Kosovo beeing a state of its own.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

sj

Enjoy being an isolated poor rat hole with dying population and a bleak future.

That does fit you pretty well actually. No one wants you in Eu anyway
(www, 19 January 2018 12:12)

@www - lol, a little "sour grapes" going on there? lol, Srbija is prime investment territory and investments coming in from all over the world...and you talking about joining the EU? Why would they want to put limits on their growth and potential?
It must hurt to read the news nowadays for you! lol

Avni

pre 6 godina

Bad news for Albanians who have open issues with all their neighbors, including Italy. I really don't know why Albanians here are cheering.
(Navi, 19 January 2018 15:42)

First: you should worry about Serbia. I guess you know what this means, recognition. Second: You gave a bad example, I guess you forgot Italy invaded/occupied Albania in 1939. This means Albania can sue Italy for invasion, war damages, etc. Look at what Greeks are doing these days, asking Germany to pay for war damages.

Staff

pre 6 godina

All countries in the Balkans have some problem, no doubt. But as far as Serbia is concerned, they have only a domestic problem with their province of Kosovo. No border problem. And a domestic problem, well, many countries in the EU have that. Look at Spain for example in Catalonia, i e Barcelona. No big deal. Stay on the track Serbia, stay on the track.

Moesian

pre 6 godina

Just leave Serbia alone u the EU Commissioner Johannes Hahn. Serbia suffered more than enough in Turkey federation and Yugoslavian federation. Previously Moesia suffered in Roman empire federation so much that even doesn't exist anymore. Therefore Serbia does not need any federation anymore. Period.

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 19 January 2018 12:52)

I maybe dim-witted but by God I get paid a s*** load of money for what I do. The EU tried to isolating Serbia at the start telling it nothing will happen unless they recognise Kosovo so when that failed they began the talks. Every now and then we hear from a politician about recognition, but the talks continue, and they will.

What would the EU do if after all these talks Serbia still said no recognition and good-bye EU? The EU would crap itself. Ask yourself what is more valuable Serbia or Kosovo? The US has already started to sell you guys out just look at the US Ambassador in Pristina statements LOL.

You are living in the 1990s and the US could not isolate the flue let alone Serbia.

“US will isolate any country including Serbia being willfully manipulated by Russia, in order to curry favor from a dictator”

This is right out of some US media site – its 100% pure drivel.

If you are interested I can post for you the latest financial and military information on the US and you will see why I always say the United States of Piss and Wind.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

"We certainly will not accept those countries that have open issues with their neighbors.
===================
How convenient, NOW.

sj

pre 6 godina

Just because you decide to dispute something, dear, does not make it disputed for everybody!
(icj1, 21 January 2018 03:18)

Well if Kosovo is not disputed then why are you on B92 dear LOL? Trying to convince who? Yourself? LOL

The problem is that you have no knowledge or depth except to repeat inane statements, but according to the US Kosovo is a hot bed of terrorists and the State Department had late last week issued to all American citizens to avoid going to Kosovo and if there to leave.

Sam

pre 6 godina

For most Serbs, that's what we are hoping. The accession process will modernise our country while the EU pays for it. We are quite happy withdrawing millions from accession funds indefinitely but hopefully never joining the EU.

Very well said
this should be the agenda of all Balkan States after all the rest of the EU have been sponging of the 4 major economy's for decades

Ataman

pre 6 godina

The countries in EU which look good would look good without EU, too.

We live part-time in such a country and we are nearly 100% personally satisfied.

To bad, it is not regarded as Serbia's friend (but under the cover nearly everyone here is a major fan of Russia, some even of Putin - what I do not like).

It has a young and quite sympathetic leader. That narrows to a single country, I think.


The countries in EU which do not look good - would not fare much better or worse without it.

Except, we could not move part-time to a place in EU what we like (much) more, than Hungary. It is not easy to get a residence permit with American or Russian passport. Hungarian comes handy.

That's the *** SINGLE *** benefit of EU - for us.

And that kids can live, study and work where they want there.

Albanians will immediately troll back: "than move back to Russia or US".

Sorry - please convince my wife first. It's my burden to deal with her, not yours!

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 6 godina

They should immediately suspend Croatia for not abiding by the international court findings in respect of its border with Slovenia. But of course they wont't... Austro-Germany's protection of their Croatian lapdogs is ever preent.

rote

pre 6 godina

Bad news for Albanians who have open issues with all their neighbors, including Italy. I really don't know why Albanians here are cheering.
(Navi, 19 January 2018 15:42)

Washington is the capitol of EU/NATO ...

icj1

pre 6 godina

The EU are hypocrites - they accepted Croatia despite its issues with Slovenia and Serbia, and even some with BiH.
(ida, 20 January 2018 04:45)

That's does not mean being a hypocrite; that means learning from past mistakes and making changes accordingly for the future to not repeat those mistakes, again. That's how countries progress, but I understand that that concept might be alien to you :)

icj1

pre 6 godina

So, at the end of the day, Kosovo is a disputed Serbian province, whatever I say or you say.
(Staff, 20 January 2018 21:47)

Well, that's according to you and Serbia and you and Serbia are certainly entitled to your opinions. As for me, I'm not aware that "Kosovo is a disputed Serbian province". And according to Kosovo and another 100+ countries in the world, Kosovo is not a disputed Serbian province. And even according to Russia, Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it.

Just because you decide to dispute something, dear, does not make it disputed for everybody!

icj1

pre 6 godina

as far as Serbia is concerned, they have only a domestic problem with their province of Kosovo.
(Staff, 20 January 2018 10:08)

If that were a domestic problem, the UNSC would not have passed UNSCR 1244 despite Serbia begging the UNSC members to not approve UNSCR 1244 because, according to Serbia, UNSCR 1244 provides for the creation of a
separate political and economic system in the province and opens up the possibility of the secession of Kosovo and Metohija from Serbia and the FRY.

rote

pre 6 godina

Serbia suffered more than enough in Turkey federation and Yugoslavian federation. Previously Moesia suffered in Roman empire federation so much that even doesn't exist anymore. Therefore Serbia does not need any federation anymore. Period.
(Moesian, 20 January 2018 22:32)

1. SERBIA SUFFERED FROM THE OTTOMANS BUT NEVER FROM TURKEY CREATED IN 1918. SERBS RULED THE OTTOMANS BEFORE 1826 WHEN OUR YANISSARIES WERE MASSACRED AND REPLACED BY NORTH CAUCASIANS, OSMANI LANGUAGE HAD ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TURKISH INVENTED IN 1923 BY TWO RUSSIAN PROFESSORS.

2. THERE WAS ONLY ONE ROMAN EMPIRE. IT CAPITOL WAS VELIKI NOVGOROD AND AFTER 1613 IN STANBUL = TSARGRAD. VATICAN ROME IS A FAKE STORY. CHURCH SERBIAN CALLED SLOVENSKI WAS OFFICIAL IN TOP KAPI SARAY AND IN THE HIGH COURT OF CONSTANTINOPLE. BEFORE 17 CENTURY THE OSMANS WERE ALL ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS. EVERYONE TO HURT A CHURCH WOULD DIE EVEN IN 18-19 CNTURIES.

3. SPLITTING AWAY FROM THE OTTOMANS WAS A BIG MISTAKE OF ALL BALKAN PEOPLES. THE FILM BELOW I WATCH AS HISTORY OF MEDIAEVAL RUS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm3_afteYo0

Ataman

pre 6 godina

[link]
(rote, 21 January 2018 14:47)

Rote,

I can accept theoretically any ideas, even the flat Earth.

However, I demand from an idea that it solves more questions than the one it generates.

I cannot dispute ANYTHING from Fomenko in earnest.

Only ONE thing. Namely, that his ideas do solve NOTHING. But they generate about a million new questions.

And HE (not me, not you!) has the burden to answer them.

As long as he cannot - I can't accept his ideas (pretty much like the "Flat Earth").

The difference is that to make "Flat Earth" look silly is about 1 minute.

Fomenko is a bit more tough, but just a little bit.

Pardon my French...

pre 6 godina

Let me explain the half-joke, not everyone is mighty in Cyrillic.

"деньги" does mean "money", so does "пара".
Amazingly, the Kazakh national currency (Tenge) is of the same origin.

Neither Kazakh nor Russian word is native - it is of Mongolian origin.

So that means, for extensive period of time both Kazakh and Russian people were influenced by Mongolian / Chinese economics.

The same time Serbian word for the same thing is of Turkish origin. Kazakhs are Turkoman people - but THEIR word is Mongolian, not Turkish.

That means, Serbs for extensive period of time had extensive Turkish (economic and political) influence, while Turkish people of Kazakhstan had Mongolian.

This is completely in-line with classic history books... and Fomenko would have a difficulty to address that problem.

The other part of the joke is about cider + mumm versus the wine + ladies.

No matter, how cheap is a wine... IMO it still beats the cider. Of course, the most important person in your life is your mom. But unless your name is Oedipus, you better to look for some other ladies to continue your genetic line ;-)

Фоменко

pre 6 godina

There is one interesting thing.

The word "Деньги" same as the name of the Kazakh national currency is clearly of Mongolian origin.

On the other side, the Serbian equivalent the people use to say is "Пара" (by co-incident, it used to be 100 Пара = 1 Дин). And it's of Turkish origin.

This somewhat defies Fomenko... because "" and "Para" was adopted one way, not the other.

Of course, it's not the most important thing. But try to survive without "Деньги" or "Пара" and you will feel quite bad.

Sorry to be so material... but as it being said:

If you have one, than "вино и дамы".
If you don't - than "сидро и мама".

Navi

pre 6 godina

Bad news for Albanians who have open issues with all their neighbors, including Italy. I really don't know why Albanians here are cheering.

sj

pre 6 godina

Han talks a lot of crap most of the time. If you look at Slovenia and Croatia. Both have border disputes. Then Croatia has not settled border issues with Serbia or BiH.

If this is a signal for Serbia to recognize Kosovo then they are going to be sadly disappointed. If the EU is that strong it would have demanded Serbia recognize Kosovo before talks began, but they are not and even in the end when all the talks are finished Serbia will say NO.

www

pre 6 godina

sj

Enjoy being an isolated poor rat hole with dying population and a bleak future.

That does fit you pretty well actually. No one wants you in Eu anyway

Watcher

pre 6 godina

sj

Enjoy being an isolated poor rat hole with dying population and a bleak future.

That does fit you pretty well actually. No one wants you in Eu anyway
(www, 19 January 2018 12:12)

@www - lol, a little "sour grapes" going on there? lol, Srbija is prime investment territory and investments coming in from all over the world...and you talking about joining the EU? Why would they want to put limits on their growth and potential?
It must hurt to read the news nowadays for you! lol

Mir

pre 6 godina

No win situation for Serbs.

They don’t deal with their neighbours and no EU

They deal with their neighbors and bye bye Kosovo and border with Croatia gets a little smaller.

Trust me when I say they will follow the money trail right to the EU!

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

If this is a signal for Serbia to recognize Kosovo then they are going to be sadly disappointed. If the EU is that strong it would have demanded Serbia recognize Kosovo before talks began, but they are not and even in the end when all the talks are finished Serbia will say NO.
(sj, 19 January 2018 11:35)


sj,
What you fail to grasp, my dimwitted little friend, is that the EU has no intention of admitting Serbia as a member of the club. If Serbia can't see this, then she is more naive than I believed. The US will isolate any country including Serbia being willfully manipulated by Russia, in order to curry favor from a dictator. Oh the tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.

icj1

pre 6 godina

So, at the end of the day, Kosovo is a disputed Serbian province, whatever I say or you say.
(Staff, 20 January 2018 21:47)

Well, that's according to you and Serbia and you and Serbia are certainly entitled to your opinions. As for me, I'm not aware that "Kosovo is a disputed Serbian province". And according to Kosovo and another 100+ countries in the world, Kosovo is not a disputed Serbian province. And even according to Russia, Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it.

Just because you decide to dispute something, dear, does not make it disputed for everybody!

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 19 January 2018 12:52)

I maybe dim-witted but by God I get paid a s*** load of money for what I do. The EU tried to isolating Serbia at the start telling it nothing will happen unless they recognise Kosovo so when that failed they began the talks. Every now and then we hear from a politician about recognition, but the talks continue, and they will.

What would the EU do if after all these talks Serbia still said no recognition and good-bye EU? The EU would crap itself. Ask yourself what is more valuable Serbia or Kosovo? The US has already started to sell you guys out just look at the US Ambassador in Pristina statements LOL.

You are living in the 1990s and the US could not isolate the flue let alone Serbia.

“US will isolate any country including Serbia being willfully manipulated by Russia, in order to curry favor from a dictator”

This is right out of some US media site – its 100% pure drivel.

If you are interested I can post for you the latest financial and military information on the US and you will see why I always say the United States of Piss and Wind.

sj

pre 6 godina

(www, 19 January 2018 12:12)

Well if you enjoy Kosova ghetto I’m happy. In 1990 there were 2 million Albos, today more than 500,000 officially do not live there. Personally, I think it less than 1 million. The west loves to hide these things since its not a good look.

What do Albos offer to the EU? Law and Order LOL? Well educated workforce? The EU refuses to recognise anything from Albania or Kosovo universities LOL.

So, what else do you have to offer? Huge number of Albos incarcerated throughout the EU? Yes; Criminal activity? Plenty, more than everyone else put together.

Yes, I can see why they don’t want Serbs LOL.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Bad news for Albanians who have open issues with all their neighbors, including Italy. I really don't know why Albanians here are cheering.
(Navi, 19 January 2018 15:42)

First: you should worry about Serbia. I guess you know what this means, recognition. Second: You gave a bad example, I guess you forgot Italy invaded/occupied Albania in 1939. This means Albania can sue Italy for invasion, war damages, etc. Look at what Greeks are doing these days, asking Germany to pay for war damages.

Staff

pre 6 godina

All countries in the Balkans have some problem, no doubt. But as far as Serbia is concerned, they have only a domestic problem with their province of Kosovo. No border problem. And a domestic problem, well, many countries in the EU have that. Look at Spain for example in Catalonia, i e Barcelona. No big deal. Stay on the track Serbia, stay on the track.

icj1

pre 6 godina

The EU are hypocrites - they accepted Croatia despite its issues with Slovenia and Serbia, and even some with BiH.
(ida, 20 January 2018 04:45)

That's does not mean being a hypocrite; that means learning from past mistakes and making changes accordingly for the future to not repeat those mistakes, again. That's how countries progress, but I understand that that concept might be alien to you :)

Ian

pre 6 godina

The EU itself may not even exist in 2025. Is there really a supurb rule of law in france, germany or belgium? Seema to me they have endangered their citizens and put them second in order to allow muslim invaders into their countries. They really do not have room to preach. They are promoting globalist values. This is the perfect way for classic european and american elites to control entire continents without firing one bullet. Im still unsure why the european union has to exist if not for the very reason of centralizing control to a few elites. Instead of being free to male your own decisions, trade with who you want amd control your own destiny the EU shuts you out unless you do as they say. Does not sound very appealing unless you just cant make any good decisiona on your own.

icj1

pre 6 godina

as far as Serbia is concerned, they have only a domestic problem with their province of Kosovo.
(Staff, 20 January 2018 10:08)

If that were a domestic problem, the UNSC would not have passed UNSCR 1244 despite Serbia begging the UNSC members to not approve UNSCR 1244 because, according to Serbia, UNSCR 1244 provides for the creation of a
separate political and economic system in the province and opens up the possibility of the secession of Kosovo and Metohija from Serbia and the FRY.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

EU has no intention of admitting Serbia as a member of the club. If Serbia can't see this...
(The Count of Kosova, 19 January 2018 12:52)
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For most Serbs, that's what we are hoping. The accession process will modernise our country while the EU pays for it. We are quite happy withdrawing millions from accession funds indefinitely but hopefully never joining the EU.

rote

pre 6 godina

Bad news for Albanians who have open issues with all their neighbors, including Italy. I really don't know why Albanians here are cheering.
(Navi, 19 January 2018 15:42)

Washington is the capitol of EU/NATO ...

rote

pre 6 godina

Serbia suffered more than enough in Turkey federation and Yugoslavian federation. Previously Moesia suffered in Roman empire federation so much that even doesn't exist anymore. Therefore Serbia does not need any federation anymore. Period.
(Moesian, 20 January 2018 22:32)

1. SERBIA SUFFERED FROM THE OTTOMANS BUT NEVER FROM TURKEY CREATED IN 1918. SERBS RULED THE OTTOMANS BEFORE 1826 WHEN OUR YANISSARIES WERE MASSACRED AND REPLACED BY NORTH CAUCASIANS, OSMANI LANGUAGE HAD ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TURKISH INVENTED IN 1923 BY TWO RUSSIAN PROFESSORS.

2. THERE WAS ONLY ONE ROMAN EMPIRE. IT CAPITOL WAS VELIKI NOVGOROD AND AFTER 1613 IN STANBUL = TSARGRAD. VATICAN ROME IS A FAKE STORY. CHURCH SERBIAN CALLED SLOVENSKI WAS OFFICIAL IN TOP KAPI SARAY AND IN THE HIGH COURT OF CONSTANTINOPLE. BEFORE 17 CENTURY THE OSMANS WERE ALL ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS. EVERYONE TO HURT A CHURCH WOULD DIE EVEN IN 18-19 CNTURIES.

3. SPLITTING AWAY FROM THE OTTOMANS WAS A BIG MISTAKE OF ALL BALKAN PEOPLES. THE FILM BELOW I WATCH AS HISTORY OF MEDIAEVAL RUS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm3_afteYo0

sj

pre 6 godina

Just because you decide to dispute something, dear, does not make it disputed for everybody!
(icj1, 21 January 2018 03:18)

Well if Kosovo is not disputed then why are you on B92 dear LOL? Trying to convince who? Yourself? LOL

The problem is that you have no knowledge or depth except to repeat inane statements, but according to the US Kosovo is a hot bed of terrorists and the State Department had late last week issued to all American citizens to avoid going to Kosovo and if there to leave.

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 6 godina

They should immediately suspend Croatia for not abiding by the international court findings in respect of its border with Slovenia. But of course they wont't... Austro-Germany's protection of their Croatian lapdogs is ever preent.

Sam

pre 6 godina

For most Serbs, that's what we are hoping. The accession process will modernise our country while the EU pays for it. We are quite happy withdrawing millions from accession funds indefinitely but hopefully never joining the EU.

Very well said
this should be the agenda of all Balkan States after all the rest of the EU have been sponging of the 4 major economy's for decades

Peggy

pre 6 godina

"We certainly will not accept those countries that have open issues with their neighbors.
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How convenient, NOW.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

The countries in EU which look good would look good without EU, too.

We live part-time in such a country and we are nearly 100% personally satisfied.

To bad, it is not regarded as Serbia's friend (but under the cover nearly everyone here is a major fan of Russia, some even of Putin - what I do not like).

It has a young and quite sympathetic leader. That narrows to a single country, I think.


The countries in EU which do not look good - would not fare much better or worse without it.

Except, we could not move part-time to a place in EU what we like (much) more, than Hungary. It is not easy to get a residence permit with American or Russian passport. Hungarian comes handy.

That's the *** SINGLE *** benefit of EU - for us.

And that kids can live, study and work where they want there.

Albanians will immediately troll back: "than move back to Russia or US".

Sorry - please convince my wife first. It's my burden to deal with her, not yours!

Staff

pre 6 godina

”If that were a domestic problem, the UNSC would not have passed UNSCR 1244 despite Serbia begging the UNSC members to not approve UNSCR 1244 because, according to Serbia, UNSCR 1244 provides for the creation of a
separate political and economic system in the province and opens up the possibility of the secession of Kosovo and Metohija from Serbia and the FRY.
(icj1, 20 January 2018 16:43)”

You are partly right icj1, but you forget one crucial thing. UNSCR 1244 is where it is and will not be changed (”open up possibility”) if the Security Councils permanent 5 member states does not agree. And we all know that they do not.
So, at the end of the day, Kosovo is a disputed Serbian province, whatever I say or you say. Will it change? I do not know, even if I probably know 1000 times more than you about this topic since I work with it every day.
I know one thing. No one alive today will be around to see Kosovo beeing a state of its own.

Moesian

pre 6 godina

Just leave Serbia alone u the EU Commissioner Johannes Hahn. Serbia suffered more than enough in Turkey federation and Yugoslavian federation. Previously Moesia suffered in Roman empire federation so much that even doesn't exist anymore. Therefore Serbia does not need any federation anymore. Period.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

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(rote, 21 January 2018 14:47)

Rote,

I can accept theoretically any ideas, even the flat Earth.

However, I demand from an idea that it solves more questions than the one it generates.

I cannot dispute ANYTHING from Fomenko in earnest.

Only ONE thing. Namely, that his ideas do solve NOTHING. But they generate about a million new questions.

And HE (not me, not you!) has the burden to answer them.

As long as he cannot - I can't accept his ideas (pretty much like the "Flat Earth").

The difference is that to make "Flat Earth" look silly is about 1 minute.

Fomenko is a bit more tough, but just a little bit.

Фоменко

pre 6 godina

There is one interesting thing.

The word "Деньги" same as the name of the Kazakh national currency is clearly of Mongolian origin.

On the other side, the Serbian equivalent the people use to say is "Пара" (by co-incident, it used to be 100 Пара = 1 Дин). And it's of Turkish origin.

This somewhat defies Fomenko... because "" and "Para" was adopted one way, not the other.

Of course, it's not the most important thing. But try to survive without "Деньги" or "Пара" and you will feel quite bad.

Sorry to be so material... but as it being said:

If you have one, than "вино и дамы".
If you don't - than "сидро и мама".

Pardon my French...

pre 6 godina

Let me explain the half-joke, not everyone is mighty in Cyrillic.

"деньги" does mean "money", so does "пара".
Amazingly, the Kazakh national currency (Tenge) is of the same origin.

Neither Kazakh nor Russian word is native - it is of Mongolian origin.

So that means, for extensive period of time both Kazakh and Russian people were influenced by Mongolian / Chinese economics.

The same time Serbian word for the same thing is of Turkish origin. Kazakhs are Turkoman people - but THEIR word is Mongolian, not Turkish.

That means, Serbs for extensive period of time had extensive Turkish (economic and political) influence, while Turkish people of Kazakhstan had Mongolian.

This is completely in-line with classic history books... and Fomenko would have a difficulty to address that problem.

The other part of the joke is about cider + mumm versus the wine + ladies.

No matter, how cheap is a wine... IMO it still beats the cider. Of course, the most important person in your life is your mom. But unless your name is Oedipus, you better to look for some other ladies to continue your genetic line ;-)