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Tuesday, 16.01.2018.

10:55

Kosovo Assembly speaker makes threats against Serbia

Kosovo Assembly President Kadri Veseli on Monday spoke at a gathering to honor the victims of "the Racak massacre," the website KoSSev has reported.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

Why don't the Albos just go and do it? The Albos did NOTHING. You were herded and beaten like dogs, the US and NATO saved your butts for you. Without them, you're nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, you would be driven out of Kosovo completely if your protectors left. You would get beat and cry like babies again.
(Aleks, 16 January 2018 21:50)

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 03:09)

A bit tiring, don't you think?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 14:34)

Not at all! According to the most patriotic of Serbs, Serbs are smart, so adopting the same tactics as Serbs is not not tiring at all...

ian

pre 6 godina

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 03:09)

dear, Are you drunk when you come on this site? the things you say make you sound like you are drunk or on some kind of hallucinogen dear. the Albanians were beaten like the losers they are. they are the ones who needed saving. Russia did next to nothing to help Serbia in 1999, they had terrible leadership and a military still in recovery. as far as serbs never being anything, we sure contribute a lot more than Albania. when is the last time Albania had anything to be proud of? how many great athletes? how many world changing figures like nikola tesla? how many times have you fought off invading forces? oh wait you were always on the wrong side of any war, that's right. you are part of a culture of drug dealing, organ smuggling, women trafficking losers, dear.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 03:09)

icj: There you go agaaaaaain, falsely restating what someone else wrote with your own twist!!! A bit tiring, don't you think? How about one single original thought from you?

Moesian

pre 6 godina

Azir-the-fool, 17 January 2018 13:50, Indeed it appears vice versa that Thracians were an Moesi tribe according to the latest genetics findings since Moesi haplogroup I is the oldest major haplogroup in Europe from some 46000 years ago vs haplogroup E1b1b which is believed to have first appeared in the Horn of Africa approximately 26,000 years ago which is found in Bulgarians around 23% in present days.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Why don't the Albos just go and do it? The Albos did NOTHING. You were herded and beaten like dogs, the US and NATO saved your butts for you. Without them, you're nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, you would be driven out of Kosovo completely if your protectors left. You would get beat and cry like babies again.
(Aleks, 16 January 2018 21:50)

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!

Jovan

pre 6 godina

Whoever this albanian is that is writing about Niš deriving from albanian...

He perfectly displays the level of ignorance in regard to history.

What will he claim next? America was discovered ba the Albanians, oh pardon me, by the 'Illyrians' of course?

You wishful thinking unveils your inferiority complex. You're pathetic.

Azir-the-fool

pre 6 godina

(Moesian, 17 January 2018 03:31)

If you haven't noticed, the discussion is to counter the claim that Nis was Albanian territory 2500 years ago.

Additionally, Moesi were an Thracian tribe like the Triballi, so it would be logical that they spoke a similar dialect.
Fact is that the ancient Thracian placenames were not eradicated by the Romans; they reused them in Latin variation.

What is also a fact is that Triballi were frequently mentioned in Byzantine works by historians of that time, and exclusively refer to Triballi=Serbs

Mehmed II the Conqueror and the fall of the Franco-Byzantine Levant to the Ottoman Turks Page 65, 77: "Triballians = Serbs"
The letters of Manuel II Palaeologus, p. 48, at Google Books: "The Triballians are the Serbs"
The Journal of Hellenic studies Page 48: "Byzantine historians [...] calling [...] Serbs Triballians"
Studies in late Byzantine history and prosopography, p. 228, at Google Books: "Serbs (were) Triballians"

sj

pre 6 godina

(Joni, 17 January 2018 11:03)

This is the greatest load of BS I have read. There is not a shred of evidence to support this Albanian indigenous occupation nor is there a shred of evidence to support a connection between Albanians and Illyrians - NONE.

There is not even a fossilized toothpick to attribute to Albanians or as someone said the only thing found was a 1970s kiosk where Burek was sold. All artefacts in Albania/Kosovo that cover the periods 1 BC to 400 BC relate to either Romans or Greeks.

I am amazed at your ignorance claiming that the oldest buildings in Syria and Israel are dated from Roman times- wrong. What school did you go to? So now you also claim since Romans were invaders they destroyed everything that the Albanian made too? You should stop drinking.

People that have no history are always trying to steal something to prove their claims.

sj

pre 6 godina

At least there are numerous Roman remains in both. What about ancient Albanian monuments in Nis?
(Ataman, 16 January 2018 12:29)

For a people that claim to be indigenous to the Balkans there is NOTHING to substantiate such a statement. There is not even a fossilized toothpick to attribute it to Albanians.

Over the years I have even had them attach pictures of findings in Albania and Kosovo claiming they belonged to Albanians. However, in one instance it was obvious that the artefacts were a Greek or Roman.

What seems to be difficult for the Albanians to understand is just because you live in the region today does not mean your people lived there 2,000 years ago.

Although Constantine the Great was born in Nis Serb have never claimed him, but Albanians have put their hands up to claim him with no evidence. Croats are the same. People that have no history are always trying to steal something to prove their claims.

Joni

pre 6 godina

How it coulb be named after NIshava river if Nishava river is a river originate in Bulgaria not Serbia.
It is said to be originate from Celtil language or an old Balkanik language - not Serbian ( Slavic ) –SO IT IS NOT Serbian.

In Albanian – Ilirian mean - ( THE ONE ).
Romans found it with that city/ Bizantines found that city there/ Slavs found that city there – he was alwys there – but he wasn’t neither Roman/ Bisantine or Serb.

It is also the birthplace of Constantine the Great, the first Christian Emperor and the founder of Constantinople,
And Costanine the Great was a Roman Emperor of Illyrian-Greek origin from 306 to 337 AD.
How many lands Serbs have stolen?

Yes! The most old buildings in Syria or Israel must been from Roman time, but all we know that Romans were invaders, and invadres destroy everything and build their own.
Same as we know that Romans were invaders in Balkan!
Same as we know that Serbs came like invaders in Balkan.

Nish is one of the few of the old names that survived on Dardania.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Ignorant Moesian :

Where did you get “ commie history” from?

NATO is more like it.

Don’t do the crime...
If you can’t do the time....

The Universe confirms how “ innocent “ you truly are and that’s why they bombed you into compliance 😜

Not us....

The world �� ha ha

Moesian

pre 6 godina

Azir, strongly disagree with that kind of commie history since among Moesians way before 615ad there were people who spoke Serbian (Srblji, Sьrbjь) language and Moesians had haplogroup I2a2 just like around 34% people in Serbia have in present days haplogroup I2a2 which was probably created in Balkan. So basically of Moesians was created Serbs and Bulgarians.

Aleks

pre 6 godina

LOL, stop until Nis? ROFLMAO in tears from that pathetic statement! I'll tell you what, why wait? Why don't the Albos just go and do it? The Albos did NOTHING. You were herded and beaten like dogs, the US and NATO saved your butts for you. Without them, you're nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, you would be driven out of Kosovo completely if your protectors left. You would get beat and cry like babies again. So instead of this cheap talk, shut up and work on moving towards encouraging people to live together. People like this idiot are what is wrong with the Balkans.

Ian

pre 6 godina

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE attack Serbia and try to take Nis. It would be a green light to finally cure the albanian disease! I cannot believe these peoe actually think there is a chance they would succeed in this, it is truely comical.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Veseli won't be "So Veseli" when his words come back and bite him in the ass. I have to say that I'm pretty pleased with his words - this puts his stupidity level right up there with Thaci and Haradinaj who are always spewing their venom. When are you going to realize that your support from the West is gone, and Europe and the West are tired of your provocations to stir hatred to steal land and play the "VICTIM CARD". Frankly, the EU and the West are getting tired of your antics and .don't feel any sympathy for you anymore.

LOL

pre 6 godina

At least there are numerous Roman remains in both. What about ancient Albanian monuments in Nis?
(Ataman, 16 January 2018 12:29)

I think there's a burek stand close to the bus stop that goes all the way back to the 1970s or something :)

LOL

pre 6 godina

Of course Albanians "won't stop at Nis". They're trying to smuggle themselves all the way to Germany. They might bang on the underside of the trunk they're curled up in to inform the driver to stop in Nis for a quick snack and pee break, but it's then back in the trunk along with their wife and 10 kids until at least the Hungarian border.

I mean they paid the Serb driver 500 euros for the whole trip, not part of it! :)

LOL

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
(Joni, 16 January 2018 11:10)

Ok first of all braniac, Nis was never "part of Kosovo" since Kosovo never existed prior to 2008.

Second, according to your "logic", Tirana is named after Teheran in Iran, so Albania is either occupying legitimate Persian land, or you people are migrants from the Middle East who need to go back home.

Third, "Nis", is the Serbian variation of Naissus, so if you Albanians are supposedly living there for 40 million years as the Great Hoxha proclaimed, why would you bastardize the Serbian variant of the name? Wouldn't you have some ancient Illyro-Dardano-Whatever name for it? Why are the names of all your places bastardized from Serbian?

Are you actually this dense or are you, like Azir, deliberately trying to come off as a dolt?

Azir-the-fool

pre 6 godina

We will fight for our freedom and our right to be free, against serbian terror and occupation. There are 10 000 000 Albanians in this world that will be ready to fight for Kosova. Albanians from all over this world travel to Kosova and join the uck to fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them. We will never give up and we will never end our resistance either.
(Gman, 16 January 2018 12:39)

Wow, 10 million combat-ready Albanians. If you consider that 1/3rd is under age, 1/3rd are elderly and some are not fit for combat (the crazy ones).. means that there are over 30 millions Albanians?!
That's even more than the total Australian population :)

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Bring in these Serb War Criminals ASAP.
(Azir, 16 January 2018 11:27

Oh silly boy! The Hague and EU are done with prosecuting Serbs for war crimes. Guys who's next? Yep, Thaci, Haradinaj, etc.... Albos!!!

Azir-the-fool

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
Skanderbeg made a lot of battles on Nish.
Serbs already have half of what was the Kosovo territory.
What is Kosovo today was inhabited by Albanians till to Nish.
(Joni, 16 January 2018 11:10)

Excuse me for saying, but what a total and utter bs.

Naissus and its name originated as a hydronim because of the Nišava river that runs through it. Through the centuries it was known as Naissus, Νάϊσσος, Naissos, Naessus, urbs Naisitana, Navissus, Navissum, Naissoupolis.

Are you saying the Albanians were the first who named the river "Nish" (The One) because it was part of your territory?

Onomastic studies show that before the Roman occupation of the town in 75 BC, the inhabitants were predominantly Thracian (Triballi) and Celtic (Scordisci). The Triballi settled all of the Morava valley around 500BC before they were defeated by the Celtic Scordisci, who settled the lands around 275BC. It was the Romans who named the town Naissus after they occupied it during the conquest of the Balkans and build their first permanent military camp. The Romans ruled the area and city up to 615AD when it was attacked and conquered by the Slav invaders. Niš was build on the ruins of Roman Naissus by the Slavs.

So tell me, when did the Albanians occupy the region?

Pants on fire

pre 6 godina

Anyone with any sense of justice agrees with Vucic on this one. Those who reported on it were lying through their teeth and they'll go to their graves, if they haven't already done so, knowing it!!

Mark

pre 6 godina

Albanians can't even govern their current little dirthole country. Now they want even more territory to plunge into chaos, crime, and poverty?

Gman

pre 6 godina

We will fight for our freedom and our right to be free, against serbian terror and occupation. There are 10 000 000 Albanians in this world that will be ready to fight for Kosova. Albanians from all over this world travel to Kosova and join the uck to fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them. We will never give up and we will never end our resistance either.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
Skanderbeg made a lot of battles on Nish.
Serbs already have half of what was the Kosovo territory.
What is Kosovo today was inhabited by Albanians till to Nish.
(Joni, 16 January 2018 11:10)

Oh, no, Kosova do Tokija?

From Wiki:

"The town was named after the Nišava River, which flows through the city and which was named Navissos by the Celtic in the 3rd century BC; it was then known as Roman Naissus, Byzantine Nysos and Slavic Niš. Legend has it that Niš was founded by a Prince Nisa, who built it using the nearby Humska Čuka stone.[citation needed] It has been called The Emperor's City.[4] The name is sometimes rendered Nish or Nissa in English."

So it is ultimately a Celtic name. The level of education in Albanian parts of the world is quite sad. It seem to be focused on false nationalism.

And even if correct - now Italy should claim Syria and Israel because they were part of Roman Empire?

At least there are numerous Roman remains in both. What about ancient Albanian monuments in Nis?

Joni

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
Skanderbeg made a lot of battles on Nish.
Serbs already have half of what was the Kosovo territory.
What is Kosovo today was inhabited by Albanians till to Nish.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Bravo Mr.Veseli for standing up to serb Terror and unjustice.

Serbs with guilty consciences consider this warning to never return by misinterpreting it as a “ threat “ but we all know criminals always want to return to the scene of their crimes!

Shame on the international community for allowing Serb war criminals to go unpunished.

Bring in these Serb War Criminals ASAP.

sj

pre 6 godina

"Serbia should not try to come back, because we will not stop until Nis. This country will remain free, independent, and sovereign. Any kind of endangering will receive a deserved response from all Albanians wherever they live."

Gee I thought Muslims didn't drink. Well this guy proved me wrong - Not stopping until NIs LOL. Pissed to the eyeballs.

Racak was William Walkers doing. It was this CIA operative's duty to give the US an excuse so he and his boozem buddy Thaci murdered those people then blamed it on the Serbs just like the US blamed Slobo because they killed over 10,000 Albos by indiscriminate NATO bombing.

Mark

pre 6 godina

Albanians can't even govern their current little dirthole country. Now they want even more territory to plunge into chaos, crime, and poverty?

Ataman

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
Skanderbeg made a lot of battles on Nish.
Serbs already have half of what was the Kosovo territory.
What is Kosovo today was inhabited by Albanians till to Nish.
(Joni, 16 January 2018 11:10)

Oh, no, Kosova do Tokija?

From Wiki:

"The town was named after the Nišava River, which flows through the city and which was named Navissos by the Celtic in the 3rd century BC; it was then known as Roman Naissus, Byzantine Nysos and Slavic Niš. Legend has it that Niš was founded by a Prince Nisa, who built it using the nearby Humska Čuka stone.[citation needed] It has been called The Emperor's City.[4] The name is sometimes rendered Nish or Nissa in English."

So it is ultimately a Celtic name. The level of education in Albanian parts of the world is quite sad. It seem to be focused on false nationalism.

And even if correct - now Italy should claim Syria and Israel because they were part of Roman Empire?

At least there are numerous Roman remains in both. What about ancient Albanian monuments in Nis?

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Bring in these Serb War Criminals ASAP.
(Azir, 16 January 2018 11:27

Oh silly boy! The Hague and EU are done with prosecuting Serbs for war crimes. Guys who's next? Yep, Thaci, Haradinaj, etc.... Albos!!!

sj

pre 6 godina

"Serbia should not try to come back, because we will not stop until Nis. This country will remain free, independent, and sovereign. Any kind of endangering will receive a deserved response from all Albanians wherever they live."

Gee I thought Muslims didn't drink. Well this guy proved me wrong - Not stopping until NIs LOL. Pissed to the eyeballs.

Racak was William Walkers doing. It was this CIA operative's duty to give the US an excuse so he and his boozem buddy Thaci murdered those people then blamed it on the Serbs just like the US blamed Slobo because they killed over 10,000 Albos by indiscriminate NATO bombing.

Azir-the-fool

pre 6 godina

We will fight for our freedom and our right to be free, against serbian terror and occupation. There are 10 000 000 Albanians in this world that will be ready to fight for Kosova. Albanians from all over this world travel to Kosova and join the uck to fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them. We will never give up and we will never end our resistance either.
(Gman, 16 January 2018 12:39)

Wow, 10 million combat-ready Albanians. If you consider that 1/3rd is under age, 1/3rd are elderly and some are not fit for combat (the crazy ones).. means that there are over 30 millions Albanians?!
That's even more than the total Australian population :)

Azir-the-fool

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
Skanderbeg made a lot of battles on Nish.
Serbs already have half of what was the Kosovo territory.
What is Kosovo today was inhabited by Albanians till to Nish.
(Joni, 16 January 2018 11:10)

Excuse me for saying, but what a total and utter bs.

Naissus and its name originated as a hydronim because of the Nišava river that runs through it. Through the centuries it was known as Naissus, Νάϊσσος, Naissos, Naessus, urbs Naisitana, Navissus, Navissum, Naissoupolis.

Are you saying the Albanians were the first who named the river "Nish" (The One) because it was part of your territory?

Onomastic studies show that before the Roman occupation of the town in 75 BC, the inhabitants were predominantly Thracian (Triballi) and Celtic (Scordisci). The Triballi settled all of the Morava valley around 500BC before they were defeated by the Celtic Scordisci, who settled the lands around 275BC. It was the Romans who named the town Naissus after they occupied it during the conquest of the Balkans and build their first permanent military camp. The Romans ruled the area and city up to 615AD when it was attacked and conquered by the Slav invaders. Niš was build on the ruins of Roman Naissus by the Slavs.

So tell me, when did the Albanians occupy the region?

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Veseli won't be "So Veseli" when his words come back and bite him in the ass. I have to say that I'm pretty pleased with his words - this puts his stupidity level right up there with Thaci and Haradinaj who are always spewing their venom. When are you going to realize that your support from the West is gone, and Europe and the West are tired of your provocations to stir hatred to steal land and play the "VICTIM CARD". Frankly, the EU and the West are getting tired of your antics and .don't feel any sympathy for you anymore.

LOL

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
(Joni, 16 January 2018 11:10)

Ok first of all braniac, Nis was never "part of Kosovo" since Kosovo never existed prior to 2008.

Second, according to your "logic", Tirana is named after Teheran in Iran, so Albania is either occupying legitimate Persian land, or you people are migrants from the Middle East who need to go back home.

Third, "Nis", is the Serbian variation of Naissus, so if you Albanians are supposedly living there for 40 million years as the Great Hoxha proclaimed, why would you bastardize the Serbian variant of the name? Wouldn't you have some ancient Illyro-Dardano-Whatever name for it? Why are the names of all your places bastardized from Serbian?

Are you actually this dense or are you, like Azir, deliberately trying to come off as a dolt?

LOL

pre 6 godina

Of course Albanians "won't stop at Nis". They're trying to smuggle themselves all the way to Germany. They might bang on the underside of the trunk they're curled up in to inform the driver to stop in Nis for a quick snack and pee break, but it's then back in the trunk along with their wife and 10 kids until at least the Hungarian border.

I mean they paid the Serb driver 500 euros for the whole trip, not part of it! :)

LOL

pre 6 godina

At least there are numerous Roman remains in both. What about ancient Albanian monuments in Nis?
(Ataman, 16 January 2018 12:29)

I think there's a burek stand close to the bus stop that goes all the way back to the 1970s or something :)

Pants on fire

pre 6 godina

Anyone with any sense of justice agrees with Vucic on this one. Those who reported on it were lying through their teeth and they'll go to their graves, if they haven't already done so, knowing it!!

Ian

pre 6 godina

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE attack Serbia and try to take Nis. It would be a green light to finally cure the albanian disease! I cannot believe these peoe actually think there is a chance they would succeed in this, it is truely comical.

Aleks

pre 6 godina

LOL, stop until Nis? ROFLMAO in tears from that pathetic statement! I'll tell you what, why wait? Why don't the Albos just go and do it? The Albos did NOTHING. You were herded and beaten like dogs, the US and NATO saved your butts for you. Without them, you're nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, you would be driven out of Kosovo completely if your protectors left. You would get beat and cry like babies again. So instead of this cheap talk, shut up and work on moving towards encouraging people to live together. People like this idiot are what is wrong with the Balkans.

Joni

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
Skanderbeg made a lot of battles on Nish.
Serbs already have half of what was the Kosovo territory.
What is Kosovo today was inhabited by Albanians till to Nish.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Bravo Mr.Veseli for standing up to serb Terror and unjustice.

Serbs with guilty consciences consider this warning to never return by misinterpreting it as a “ threat “ but we all know criminals always want to return to the scene of their crimes!

Shame on the international community for allowing Serb war criminals to go unpunished.

Bring in these Serb War Criminals ASAP.

Gman

pre 6 godina

We will fight for our freedom and our right to be free, against serbian terror and occupation. There are 10 000 000 Albanians in this world that will be ready to fight for Kosova. Albanians from all over this world travel to Kosova and join the uck to fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them. We will never give up and we will never end our resistance either.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Joni, 17 January 2018 11:03)

This is the greatest load of BS I have read. There is not a shred of evidence to support this Albanian indigenous occupation nor is there a shred of evidence to support a connection between Albanians and Illyrians - NONE.

There is not even a fossilized toothpick to attribute to Albanians or as someone said the only thing found was a 1970s kiosk where Burek was sold. All artefacts in Albania/Kosovo that cover the periods 1 BC to 400 BC relate to either Romans or Greeks.

I am amazed at your ignorance claiming that the oldest buildings in Syria and Israel are dated from Roman times- wrong. What school did you go to? So now you also claim since Romans were invaders they destroyed everything that the Albanian made too? You should stop drinking.

People that have no history are always trying to steal something to prove their claims.

Moesian

pre 6 godina

Azir, strongly disagree with that kind of commie history since among Moesians way before 615ad there were people who spoke Serbian (Srblji, Sьrbjь) language and Moesians had haplogroup I2a2 just like around 34% people in Serbia have in present days haplogroup I2a2 which was probably created in Balkan. So basically of Moesians was created Serbs and Bulgarians.

sj

pre 6 godina

At least there are numerous Roman remains in both. What about ancient Albanian monuments in Nis?
(Ataman, 16 January 2018 12:29)

For a people that claim to be indigenous to the Balkans there is NOTHING to substantiate such a statement. There is not even a fossilized toothpick to attribute it to Albanians.

Over the years I have even had them attach pictures of findings in Albania and Kosovo claiming they belonged to Albanians. However, in one instance it was obvious that the artefacts were a Greek or Roman.

What seems to be difficult for the Albanians to understand is just because you live in the region today does not mean your people lived there 2,000 years ago.

Although Constantine the Great was born in Nis Serb have never claimed him, but Albanians have put their hands up to claim him with no evidence. Croats are the same. People that have no history are always trying to steal something to prove their claims.

Joni

pre 6 godina

How it coulb be named after NIshava river if Nishava river is a river originate in Bulgaria not Serbia.
It is said to be originate from Celtil language or an old Balkanik language - not Serbian ( Slavic ) –SO IT IS NOT Serbian.

In Albanian – Ilirian mean - ( THE ONE ).
Romans found it with that city/ Bizantines found that city there/ Slavs found that city there – he was alwys there – but he wasn’t neither Roman/ Bisantine or Serb.

It is also the birthplace of Constantine the Great, the first Christian Emperor and the founder of Constantinople,
And Costanine the Great was a Roman Emperor of Illyrian-Greek origin from 306 to 337 AD.
How many lands Serbs have stolen?

Yes! The most old buildings in Syria or Israel must been from Roman time, but all we know that Romans were invaders, and invadres destroy everything and build their own.
Same as we know that Romans were invaders in Balkan!
Same as we know that Serbs came like invaders in Balkan.

Nish is one of the few of the old names that survived on Dardania.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Ignorant Moesian :

Where did you get “ commie history” from?

NATO is more like it.

Don’t do the crime...
If you can’t do the time....

The Universe confirms how “ innocent “ you truly are and that’s why they bombed you into compliance 😜

Not us....

The world �� ha ha

Azir-the-fool

pre 6 godina

(Moesian, 17 January 2018 03:31)

If you haven't noticed, the discussion is to counter the claim that Nis was Albanian territory 2500 years ago.

Additionally, Moesi were an Thracian tribe like the Triballi, so it would be logical that they spoke a similar dialect.
Fact is that the ancient Thracian placenames were not eradicated by the Romans; they reused them in Latin variation.

What is also a fact is that Triballi were frequently mentioned in Byzantine works by historians of that time, and exclusively refer to Triballi=Serbs

Mehmed II the Conqueror and the fall of the Franco-Byzantine Levant to the Ottoman Turks Page 65, 77: "Triballians = Serbs"
The letters of Manuel II Palaeologus, p. 48, at Google Books: "The Triballians are the Serbs"
The Journal of Hellenic studies Page 48: "Byzantine historians [...] calling [...] Serbs Triballians"
Studies in late Byzantine history and prosopography, p. 228, at Google Books: "Serbs (were) Triballians"

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 03:09)

icj: There you go agaaaaaain, falsely restating what someone else wrote with your own twist!!! A bit tiring, don't you think? How about one single original thought from you?

ian

pre 6 godina

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 03:09)

dear, Are you drunk when you come on this site? the things you say make you sound like you are drunk or on some kind of hallucinogen dear. the Albanians were beaten like the losers they are. they are the ones who needed saving. Russia did next to nothing to help Serbia in 1999, they had terrible leadership and a military still in recovery. as far as serbs never being anything, we sure contribute a lot more than Albania. when is the last time Albania had anything to be proud of? how many great athletes? how many world changing figures like nikola tesla? how many times have you fought off invading forces? oh wait you were always on the wrong side of any war, that's right. you are part of a culture of drug dealing, organ smuggling, women trafficking losers, dear.

Jovan

pre 6 godina

Whoever this albanian is that is writing about Niš deriving from albanian...

He perfectly displays the level of ignorance in regard to history.

What will he claim next? America was discovered ba the Albanians, oh pardon me, by the 'Illyrians' of course?

You wishful thinking unveils your inferiority complex. You're pathetic.

Moesian

pre 6 godina

Azir-the-fool, 17 January 2018 13:50, Indeed it appears vice versa that Thracians were an Moesi tribe according to the latest genetics findings since Moesi haplogroup I is the oldest major haplogroup in Europe from some 46000 years ago vs haplogroup E1b1b which is believed to have first appeared in the Horn of Africa approximately 26,000 years ago which is found in Bulgarians around 23% in present days.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Why don't the Albos just go and do it? The Albos did NOTHING. You were herded and beaten like dogs, the US and NATO saved your butts for you. Without them, you're nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, you would be driven out of Kosovo completely if your protectors left. You would get beat and cry like babies again.
(Aleks, 16 January 2018 21:50)

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!

icj1

pre 6 godina

Why don't the Albos just go and do it? The Albos did NOTHING. You were herded and beaten like dogs, the US and NATO saved your butts for you. Without them, you're nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, you would be driven out of Kosovo completely if your protectors left. You would get beat and cry like babies again.
(Aleks, 16 January 2018 21:50)

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 03:09)

A bit tiring, don't you think?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 14:34)

Not at all! According to the most patriotic of Serbs, Serbs are smart, so adopting the same tactics as Serbs is not not tiring at all...

Gman

pre 6 godina

We will fight for our freedom and our right to be free, against serbian terror and occupation. There are 10 000 000 Albanians in this world that will be ready to fight for Kosova. Albanians from all over this world travel to Kosova and join the uck to fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them. We will never give up and we will never end our resistance either.

Joni

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
Skanderbeg made a lot of battles on Nish.
Serbs already have half of what was the Kosovo territory.
What is Kosovo today was inhabited by Albanians till to Nish.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Bravo Mr.Veseli for standing up to serb Terror and unjustice.

Serbs with guilty consciences consider this warning to never return by misinterpreting it as a “ threat “ but we all know criminals always want to return to the scene of their crimes!

Shame on the international community for allowing Serb war criminals to go unpunished.

Bring in these Serb War Criminals ASAP.

sj

pre 6 godina

"Serbia should not try to come back, because we will not stop until Nis. This country will remain free, independent, and sovereign. Any kind of endangering will receive a deserved response from all Albanians wherever they live."

Gee I thought Muslims didn't drink. Well this guy proved me wrong - Not stopping until NIs LOL. Pissed to the eyeballs.

Racak was William Walkers doing. It was this CIA operative's duty to give the US an excuse so he and his boozem buddy Thaci murdered those people then blamed it on the Serbs just like the US blamed Slobo because they killed over 10,000 Albos by indiscriminate NATO bombing.

Mark

pre 6 godina

Albanians can't even govern their current little dirthole country. Now they want even more territory to plunge into chaos, crime, and poverty?

Azir-the-fool

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
Skanderbeg made a lot of battles on Nish.
Serbs already have half of what was the Kosovo territory.
What is Kosovo today was inhabited by Albanians till to Nish.
(Joni, 16 January 2018 11:10)

Excuse me for saying, but what a total and utter bs.

Naissus and its name originated as a hydronim because of the Nišava river that runs through it. Through the centuries it was known as Naissus, Νάϊσσος, Naissos, Naessus, urbs Naisitana, Navissus, Navissum, Naissoupolis.

Are you saying the Albanians were the first who named the river "Nish" (The One) because it was part of your territory?

Onomastic studies show that before the Roman occupation of the town in 75 BC, the inhabitants were predominantly Thracian (Triballi) and Celtic (Scordisci). The Triballi settled all of the Morava valley around 500BC before they were defeated by the Celtic Scordisci, who settled the lands around 275BC. It was the Romans who named the town Naissus after they occupied it during the conquest of the Balkans and build their first permanent military camp. The Romans ruled the area and city up to 615AD when it was attacked and conquered by the Slav invaders. Niš was build on the ruins of Roman Naissus by the Slavs.

So tell me, when did the Albanians occupy the region?

Azir-the-fool

pre 6 godina

We will fight for our freedom and our right to be free, against serbian terror and occupation. There are 10 000 000 Albanians in this world that will be ready to fight for Kosova. Albanians from all over this world travel to Kosova and join the uck to fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them. We will never give up and we will never end our resistance either.
(Gman, 16 January 2018 12:39)

Wow, 10 million combat-ready Albanians. If you consider that 1/3rd is under age, 1/3rd are elderly and some are not fit for combat (the crazy ones).. means that there are over 30 millions Albanians?!
That's even more than the total Australian population :)

Ataman

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
Skanderbeg made a lot of battles on Nish.
Serbs already have half of what was the Kosovo territory.
What is Kosovo today was inhabited by Albanians till to Nish.
(Joni, 16 January 2018 11:10)

Oh, no, Kosova do Tokija?

From Wiki:

"The town was named after the Nišava River, which flows through the city and which was named Navissos by the Celtic in the 3rd century BC; it was then known as Roman Naissus, Byzantine Nysos and Slavic Niš. Legend has it that Niš was founded by a Prince Nisa, who built it using the nearby Humska Čuka stone.[citation needed] It has been called The Emperor's City.[4] The name is sometimes rendered Nish or Nissa in English."

So it is ultimately a Celtic name. The level of education in Albanian parts of the world is quite sad. It seem to be focused on false nationalism.

And even if correct - now Italy should claim Syria and Israel because they were part of Roman Empire?

At least there are numerous Roman remains in both. What about ancient Albanian monuments in Nis?

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Bring in these Serb War Criminals ASAP.
(Azir, 16 January 2018 11:27

Oh silly boy! The Hague and EU are done with prosecuting Serbs for war crimes. Guys who's next? Yep, Thaci, Haradinaj, etc.... Albos!!!

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Veseli won't be "So Veseli" when his words come back and bite him in the ass. I have to say that I'm pretty pleased with his words - this puts his stupidity level right up there with Thaci and Haradinaj who are always spewing their venom. When are you going to realize that your support from the West is gone, and Europe and the West are tired of your provocations to stir hatred to steal land and play the "VICTIM CARD". Frankly, the EU and the West are getting tired of your antics and .don't feel any sympathy for you anymore.

Pants on fire

pre 6 godina

Anyone with any sense of justice agrees with Vucic on this one. Those who reported on it were lying through their teeth and they'll go to their graves, if they haven't already done so, knowing it!!

LOL

pre 6 godina

Because 'Nish' mean ' The one" on our language and that was part of Kosovo territory till Serbs annexed it.
(Joni, 16 January 2018 11:10)

Ok first of all braniac, Nis was never "part of Kosovo" since Kosovo never existed prior to 2008.

Second, according to your "logic", Tirana is named after Teheran in Iran, so Albania is either occupying legitimate Persian land, or you people are migrants from the Middle East who need to go back home.

Third, "Nis", is the Serbian variation of Naissus, so if you Albanians are supposedly living there for 40 million years as the Great Hoxha proclaimed, why would you bastardize the Serbian variant of the name? Wouldn't you have some ancient Illyro-Dardano-Whatever name for it? Why are the names of all your places bastardized from Serbian?

Are you actually this dense or are you, like Azir, deliberately trying to come off as a dolt?

LOL

pre 6 godina

At least there are numerous Roman remains in both. What about ancient Albanian monuments in Nis?
(Ataman, 16 January 2018 12:29)

I think there's a burek stand close to the bus stop that goes all the way back to the 1970s or something :)

LOL

pre 6 godina

Of course Albanians "won't stop at Nis". They're trying to smuggle themselves all the way to Germany. They might bang on the underside of the trunk they're curled up in to inform the driver to stop in Nis for a quick snack and pee break, but it's then back in the trunk along with their wife and 10 kids until at least the Hungarian border.

I mean they paid the Serb driver 500 euros for the whole trip, not part of it! :)

Joni

pre 6 godina

How it coulb be named after NIshava river if Nishava river is a river originate in Bulgaria not Serbia.
It is said to be originate from Celtil language or an old Balkanik language - not Serbian ( Slavic ) –SO IT IS NOT Serbian.

In Albanian – Ilirian mean - ( THE ONE ).
Romans found it with that city/ Bizantines found that city there/ Slavs found that city there – he was alwys there – but he wasn’t neither Roman/ Bisantine or Serb.

It is also the birthplace of Constantine the Great, the first Christian Emperor and the founder of Constantinople,
And Costanine the Great was a Roman Emperor of Illyrian-Greek origin from 306 to 337 AD.
How many lands Serbs have stolen?

Yes! The most old buildings in Syria or Israel must been from Roman time, but all we know that Romans were invaders, and invadres destroy everything and build their own.
Same as we know that Romans were invaders in Balkan!
Same as we know that Serbs came like invaders in Balkan.

Nish is one of the few of the old names that survived on Dardania.

Ian

pre 6 godina

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE attack Serbia and try to take Nis. It would be a green light to finally cure the albanian disease! I cannot believe these peoe actually think there is a chance they would succeed in this, it is truely comical.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Ignorant Moesian :

Where did you get “ commie history” from?

NATO is more like it.

Don’t do the crime...
If you can’t do the time....

The Universe confirms how “ innocent “ you truly are and that’s why they bombed you into compliance 😜

Not us....

The world �� ha ha

sj

pre 6 godina

At least there are numerous Roman remains in both. What about ancient Albanian monuments in Nis?
(Ataman, 16 January 2018 12:29)

For a people that claim to be indigenous to the Balkans there is NOTHING to substantiate such a statement. There is not even a fossilized toothpick to attribute it to Albanians.

Over the years I have even had them attach pictures of findings in Albania and Kosovo claiming they belonged to Albanians. However, in one instance it was obvious that the artefacts were a Greek or Roman.

What seems to be difficult for the Albanians to understand is just because you live in the region today does not mean your people lived there 2,000 years ago.

Although Constantine the Great was born in Nis Serb have never claimed him, but Albanians have put their hands up to claim him with no evidence. Croats are the same. People that have no history are always trying to steal something to prove their claims.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Joni, 17 January 2018 11:03)

This is the greatest load of BS I have read. There is not a shred of evidence to support this Albanian indigenous occupation nor is there a shred of evidence to support a connection between Albanians and Illyrians - NONE.

There is not even a fossilized toothpick to attribute to Albanians or as someone said the only thing found was a 1970s kiosk where Burek was sold. All artefacts in Albania/Kosovo that cover the periods 1 BC to 400 BC relate to either Romans or Greeks.

I am amazed at your ignorance claiming that the oldest buildings in Syria and Israel are dated from Roman times- wrong. What school did you go to? So now you also claim since Romans were invaders they destroyed everything that the Albanian made too? You should stop drinking.

People that have no history are always trying to steal something to prove their claims.

Azir-the-fool

pre 6 godina

(Moesian, 17 January 2018 03:31)

If you haven't noticed, the discussion is to counter the claim that Nis was Albanian territory 2500 years ago.

Additionally, Moesi were an Thracian tribe like the Triballi, so it would be logical that they spoke a similar dialect.
Fact is that the ancient Thracian placenames were not eradicated by the Romans; they reused them in Latin variation.

What is also a fact is that Triballi were frequently mentioned in Byzantine works by historians of that time, and exclusively refer to Triballi=Serbs

Mehmed II the Conqueror and the fall of the Franco-Byzantine Levant to the Ottoman Turks Page 65, 77: "Triballians = Serbs"
The letters of Manuel II Palaeologus, p. 48, at Google Books: "The Triballians are the Serbs"
The Journal of Hellenic studies Page 48: "Byzantine historians [...] calling [...] Serbs Triballians"
Studies in late Byzantine history and prosopography, p. 228, at Google Books: "Serbs (were) Triballians"

Moesian

pre 6 godina

Azir, strongly disagree with that kind of commie history since among Moesians way before 615ad there were people who spoke Serbian (Srblji, Sьrbjь) language and Moesians had haplogroup I2a2 just like around 34% people in Serbia have in present days haplogroup I2a2 which was probably created in Balkan. So basically of Moesians was created Serbs and Bulgarians.

Aleks

pre 6 godina

LOL, stop until Nis? ROFLMAO in tears from that pathetic statement! I'll tell you what, why wait? Why don't the Albos just go and do it? The Albos did NOTHING. You were herded and beaten like dogs, the US and NATO saved your butts for you. Without them, you're nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, you would be driven out of Kosovo completely if your protectors left. You would get beat and cry like babies again. So instead of this cheap talk, shut up and work on moving towards encouraging people to live together. People like this idiot are what is wrong with the Balkans.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Why don't the Albos just go and do it? The Albos did NOTHING. You were herded and beaten like dogs, the US and NATO saved your butts for you. Without them, you're nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, you would be driven out of Kosovo completely if your protectors left. You would get beat and cry like babies again.
(Aleks, 16 January 2018 21:50)

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!

Jovan

pre 6 godina

Whoever this albanian is that is writing about Niš deriving from albanian...

He perfectly displays the level of ignorance in regard to history.

What will he claim next? America was discovered ba the Albanians, oh pardon me, by the 'Illyrians' of course?

You wishful thinking unveils your inferiority complex. You're pathetic.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Why don't the Albos just go and do it? The Albos did NOTHING. You were herded and beaten like dogs, the US and NATO saved your butts for you. Without them, you're nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, you would be driven out of Kosovo completely if your protectors left. You would get beat and cry like babies again.
(Aleks, 16 January 2018 21:50)

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 03:09)

A bit tiring, don't you think?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 14:34)

Not at all! According to the most patriotic of Serbs, Serbs are smart, so adopting the same tactics as Serbs is not not tiring at all...

Moesian

pre 6 godina

Azir-the-fool, 17 January 2018 13:50, Indeed it appears vice versa that Thracians were an Moesi tribe according to the latest genetics findings since Moesi haplogroup I is the oldest major haplogroup in Europe from some 46000 years ago vs haplogroup E1b1b which is believed to have first appeared in the Horn of Africa approximately 26,000 years ago which is found in Bulgarians around 23% in present days.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 03:09)

icj: There you go agaaaaaain, falsely restating what someone else wrote with your own twist!!! A bit tiring, don't you think? How about one single original thought from you?

ian

pre 6 godina

That's because the Albos imitated the Serbs. What's wrong with that?! Indeed, why don't the Serbs just go and do it? The Serbs did NOTHING. They were herded and beaten like dogs, Russia saved their butts for them. Without Russia, Serbs are nothing. So quit talking this nonsense, Serbs would be driven out of Serbia completely if Serbs' protectors left Serbs on their own. Serbs would get beat and cry like babies again.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, dear!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 03:09)

dear, Are you drunk when you come on this site? the things you say make you sound like you are drunk or on some kind of hallucinogen dear. the Albanians were beaten like the losers they are. they are the ones who needed saving. Russia did next to nothing to help Serbia in 1999, they had terrible leadership and a military still in recovery. as far as serbs never being anything, we sure contribute a lot more than Albania. when is the last time Albania had anything to be proud of? how many great athletes? how many world changing figures like nikola tesla? how many times have you fought off invading forces? oh wait you were always on the wrong side of any war, that's right. you are part of a culture of drug dealing, organ smuggling, women trafficking losers, dear.