Lasting solution for Kosovo could be found in 2018 - PM

jb- so right. When will all those cleansed Serbs get their property back should be everyones first question on reconciliation.

We already found a lasting solution. It`s called the Republik of Kosova. What your "solution" will be is up to you. Tell us when you are ready. We`ll note it.

Watcher, 10 January 2018 14:56)

If Kosovo je serbia, then why are YOU looking for solutions? Don’t you feel bigger loser then us ?
Think about it “ solution” what is that supposed to mean?

Kosova independent as an Republic was the great compromise Albanians gave to serbs. If you ask Albanians what we want is to unite with Albania.

The only solution you in Serbia should come up with, is how to accept and recognize Republic of Kosova. I say it this way: It is much easiser for Kosova to be part of Albania than Serbia.

The only way for Serbia to occupy Kosova is to send in the army and ethnic cleanse the Albanian population. You had that chance once and failed that mission. That chance you will never get again.

If you think Albanian leaders will accept Serbian rule then you are just stupid!

Tell us when you are ready. We`ll note it.
(Gjon Marku, 10 January 2018 11:20)

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Are you the same Gjon Marku who also prophetically noted years ago that residents of KiM without Serbian travel documents would have visa-free access to the EU?
Perhaps “note-taking” and broader educational literacy are poorly taught in dysfunctional fenced-in ghettos?

”We already found a lasting solution. It`s called the Republik of Kosova. What your "solution" will be is up to you. Tell us when you are ready. We`ll note it.
(Gjon Marku, 10 January 2018 11:20)”

You are totally wrong Gjon, believe me.
I bet you as much as you want that the Kosovo story has only been told about 20-30%.
I see it, I hear it, I read it and I discuss it every day.

The only way for Serbia to occupy Kosova is to send in the army and ethnic cleanse the Albanian population. You had that chance once and failed that mission. That chance you will never get again.
(Demi, 10 January 2018 15:58)

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In a world where the USA military industrial complex is fully dependent on perpetual global instability, your scenario is not a question of if, but more aptly: When? We'll be ethnically cleansing one another until we realize it's in our interest to live together.
(Moore, 10 January 2018 16:56)

@Moore - sadly, a very true statement! Well said!

looks like the same question 20 years ago, nobody did sweet about croatia or kosovo with the enthic cleansing of serbian people, let alone the right to their property, seems like the same real estate agent in both cases, who ever the magot is,c give you a hint but will be banned from this site

@ demi

"The only way for Serbia to occupy Kosova is to send in the army and ethnic cleanse the Albanian population. You had that chance once and failed that mission. That chance you will never get again. "

In Kosmet this is something albanians have been doing for decades and continue to do to this day, ethnic cleansing serbs, committing terror against serbs, murder, harassment, intimidation, committed and continue to commit genocide against serbs.

Get your facts straight demi and stop writing lies

We`ll note it.

Gjon, and then you'll accept it big fella...

We already found a lasting solution. It`s called the Republik of Kosova. What your "solution" will be is up to you. Tell us when you are ready. We`ll note it.
(Gjon Marku, 10 January 2018 11:20)

@ gjon marku - lol, your solution will be what your masters tell you it will be, got it? and they are working with BG to come up with a solution..whether you like it it or not!
It's cute how you think you have a say in this matter! The best you can hope for is BG decides to be fair and give you something...now get back to work cleaning KFOR toilets...

The only way for Serbia to occupy Kosova is to send in the army and ethnic cleanse the Albanian population. You had that chance once and failed that mission. That chance you will never get again.
(Demi, 10 January 2018 15:58)

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In a world where the USA military industrial complex is fully dependent on perpetual global instability, your scenario is not a question of if, but more aptly: When? We'll be ethnically cleansing one another until we realize it's in our interest to live together.

The solution is found already, Kosovo is off, however, lets play devils advocate for a moment, what is the solution here? I will discount anything that espouses ethnic expulsion and/or killing. More than autonomy, less than independence...hpw does that work? A veto on Serbian foreign policy?
(Nikolle, 10 January 2018 16:28

Keep it a Southern Province of Serbia without any influence from Albania - remember Albania has no claim here. Return property to the displaced (ethnically cleansed) Serbs that was illegally taken. Repair and restore the monasteries and churches that were destroyed - to be fair, only the ones after 1999 when the war was over Then live happily ever after.....

We already found a lasting solution. It`s called the Republik of Kosova. What your "solution" will be is up to you. Tell us when you are ready. We`ll note it.
(Gjon Marku, 10 January 2018

We Serbia will more it,Goon ))
Then we will tell you how it will be ,NOT what you will be expecting ))
How is your dishwashing job in Melbourne coming along) )
It's a pity that you cannot afford live in Kosovo and live abroad ))

Kosova independent as an Republic was the great compromise Albanians gave to serbs. If you ask Albanians what we want is to unite with Albania.

The only solution you in Serbia should come up with, is how to accept and recognize Republic of Kosova. I say it this way: It is much easiser for Kosova to be part of Albania than Serbia.

The only way for Serbia to occupy Kosova is to send in the army and ethnic cleanse the Albanian population. You had that chance once and failed that mission. That chance you will never get again.

If you think Albanian leaders will accept Serbian rule then you are just stupid!
(Demi, 10 January 2018 15:58)

@ dumi - First, Albania doesn't want you...you are a liability in their quest for EU membership.
Second, say Tirana does the dumbest thing and annexes "kosova", what value do you bring them? Bigger welfare payments? bigger debt?
Third, it would set the stage for opening of Pandora's box again...it would legalize Crimea to Russia, RS to Srbija, etc....not happening! The world is against this.

Get it thru your head...your time of "europes youngest democracy" sham is over, it's a big boys game and you don't have the pants for it, Hence you will do as told!
And if ramush doesn't follow orders, he won't get a signed Christmas card from White House next year, got it?

Ković: Hajka na Amfilohija je priprema za prihvatanje stolice Kosova u UN http://www.rtv.rs/sr_lat/politika/kovic-hajka-na-amfilohija-je-priprema-za-prihvatanje-stolice-kosova-u-un_884454.html

Are serbs ready to accept Haradinaj as Foreign minister and Thaci as prime minister?

Are they willing to accept that’s Albanians to have veto power on everything?


If yes ok ,take Kosovo back...I am sure you will be curse yourself every day.

The lasting solution is exchange two town halls in North with Presevo Valley,follow with formal recognition of Republic of Kosovo by Serbia .

Every formula for Kosovo under Serbia will be political suicide for all serbs.

"Keep it a Southern Province of Serbia without any influence from Albania "....good luck with that. what you suggest, is not going to happen, not the displaced bit, but the political solution. You may wish that there were no Albanians in holy Kosmet, or for that matter the world, but wishing is not going to change the reality on the ground

@ mark w - could very well possibly be, but what would Srbija get out of that deal? You guys would get 100% and BG 0%...Vucic would never be able to sell that to the people! It's been proven that the people of Srbija would never "give away" K&M for EU entry or even "preferred" status...
(Watcher, 10 January 2018 18:22) # Comment


If Serbia was to hold a referendum regarding Kosova, I can assure that 70% will vote to forget Kosova and move along to live in peace and prosperity with its neighboring countries!

I would not be surprise if sometime this year, Vucic will call the referendum! Time will tell.

If Serbia was to hold a referendum regarding Kosova, I can assure that 70% will vote to forget Kosova and move along to live in peace and prosperity with its neighboring countries!

I would not be surprise if sometime this year, Vucic will call the referendum! Time will tell.
(the truth, 10 January 2018 19:17)


@ truth - assure? You can't assure s**t! You've been assuring now for how many years and it's all unraveling in front of your own nose...not only can you not "asure" anything, you can't do anything about it!
Go pound sand!...until you learn you have to negotiate with BG, you are destined to live in this ghetto stillborn abortion project called "kosova"...

It looks like the narrative is being prepared for the recognition of Kosovo.

Vucic will have Brnabic do the deal on the recognition of Kosovo, then when the nationalists go crazy he will replace her and say that she did it all on her own and that it is now too late to change it.

Then the conspiracy theories will start with her being the granddaughter of an Ustasa who made a secret deal with the Vatican, Germany, and the LGBT community to work against the Serb people and the Serbian Orthodox Church.

It looks like the narrative is being prepared for the recognition of Kosovo.

Vucic will have Brnabic do the deal on the recognition of Kosovo, then when the nationalists go crazy he will replace her and say that she did it all on her own and that it is now too late to change it.

Then the conspiracy theories will start with her being the granddaughter of an Ustasa who made a secret deal with the Vatican, Germany, and the LGBT community to work against the Serb people and the Serbian Orthodox Church.
(Mark.W, 10 January 2018 17:18)

@ mark w - could very well possibly be, but what would Srbija get out of that deal? You guys would get 100% and BG 0%...Vucic would never be able to sell that to the people! It's been proven that the people of Srbija would never "give away" K&M for EU entry or even "preferred" status...

@ mark w - could very well possibly be, but what would Srbija get out of that deal? You guys would get 100% and BG 0%...Vucic would never be able to sell that to the people! It's been proven that the people of Srbija would never "give away" K&M for EU entry or even "preferred" status...
(Watcher, 10 January 2018 18:22) # Comment link

Don’t be too sure Vucic wouldn’t do it.

23 years ago Vucic was in Glina giving a speech how Serbia will always defend the RSK. Then a few years later there was no Krajna anymore and Serbia did nothing. The same will happen but this time without war just financial self interest.

The people in Serbia will then see large amounts of EU money come in and will slowly get on with their lives. Sure there will be demonstrations but I think Vucic has a strong hold on the Police and Media and will be able to come out unscathed.. Brnarbic will be the sacrificial lamb which will be easy since she has Croatian blood in her and is Gay which are two things Serbs love to hate.

If Serbia was to hold a referendum regarding Kosova, I can assure that 70% will vote to forget Kosova and move along to live in peace and prosperity with its neighboring countries!

I would not be surprise if sometime this year, Vucic will call the referendum! Time will tell.
(the truth, 10 January 2018 19:17)
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What do you base that on? Like Mark, your wishful thinking?

"...NO say in Serbian Government."...why not? That would make us unequal citizens wouldnt it? I do get that your mind is addled with clero-fascist tendencies, but that does not mean its the way to go. Put it this way sunshine, there's nothing that Serbia can do to get holy Kosmet back, at best, it disrupt its development, but thats it. All you tjat is left to you, is to write how you will be back on B92

My grandfather was a Croat and he is not a Serb from Croatia, he is a Croat from the island of Krk. I spent my childhood there, I have many friends there, we have many similarities," Brnabic said.

Asked if she would like Yugoslavia to exist again, Brnabic replied: "No."

Like a snake sheds it's skin but it remains the same snake !!!

So the Serbian people can not find them selves within, they are going out side just like they did in 1945 when they put their new mortal god Josip Broz Tito on the throne in Beograd and murdered their own Serbian Brothers and Sisters ! This woman is a Croatian and she is a homo sexual, good job Serbian idiots !!!

The solution is found already, Kosovo is off, however, lets play devils advocate for a moment, what is the solution here? I will discount anything that espouses ethnic expulsion and/or killing. More than autonomy, less than independence...hpw does that work? A veto on Serbian foreign policy?

It was only 2017 a few days ago and you all here are still arguing
Instead of wanting to be friends
Just saying

23 years ago Vucic was in Glina giving a speech how Serbia will always defend the RSK. Then a few years later there was no Krajna anymore and Serbia did nothing. The same will happen but this time without war just financial self interest.
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Mark,
This is only your wishful thinking. You see, there will be no more NATO raining bombs on Serbia so that alone makes today's situation a lot different.

The solution is found already, Kosovo is off, however, lets play devils advocate for a moment, what is the solution here? I will discount anything that espouses ethnic expulsion and/or killing. More than autonomy, less than independence...hpw does that work? A veto on Serbian foreign policy?
(Nikolle, 10 January 2018 16:28)

@ Nikolle - reasonable question, finally. Thank you! What "more than autonomy, less than independence" means is not up to you or me, but the powers to be at these "talks"...BG was/is helpless to push progress at these talks until Pristina gets off the "Independence or nothing" kick...and I can't blame them because they have their western masters support on it.
A reasonable solution that probably neither side will be happy with is the ONLY way to move forward...NOTHING else.
If BG "gives away" Kosovo I Metojia, then Srb discontent will be with BG administration, not Albanian authorities!...and vice versa!
Hope this helps somewhat. Thanks for the question!

@Watcher

that's no answer, that's just waffle. neither side will be happy with...so tell me, what will make Belgrade unhappy? a veto power on Serbian foreign policy? An army for Kosovo, independent of Serbia, but still part of Serbia? You know, these sort of things have to be discussed, because independence or not, Albanians are still there and they're not an insignificant number. Belgrade seems to think that by merely using phrases, they're offering solutions, but there's zero details to their ideas.

It's time for Serbia to either shit or get off the pot.Serbia has gone as far as It can in the European integration for the European Union process but this whole not recognizing Kosovo though has brought the train to a screeching stop. That's why 2018 is so important, it is time to show that your ass is really not on two seats at the same time and you choose EU instead of Russia. Good luck with your dialogue Serbia and Serbs.

The people in Serbia will then see large amounts of EU money come in and will slowly get on with their lives. Sure there will be demonstrations but I think Vucic has a strong hold on the Police and Media and will be able to come out unscathed.. Brnarbic will be the sacrificial lamb which will be easy since she has Croatian blood in her and is Gay which are two things Serbs love to hate.
(Mark.W, 10 January 2018 20:05) # Comment

You think wrong Mark))I live in Serbia and tell you Vucic would be ousted like Milosevic, if he was to try to sell out Kosovo to Europe ))
Majority of Serbian people in Serbia cannot be bought with a fist full of dollars (EU scrapes).
Do not forget that UAE ,China and Russia have to invested in Serbia .
Serbs will always have more then 2 chairs to choose )))
Mark ,your views are wishful thinking) )and Fairy tales) )
Why are Shqiptars still trying to persuade Serbs on a Serb Site that they have a country called Kosovo after 10 years )))That to me is funny by you Shqiptars behaviour) )

Are serbs ready to accept Haradinaj as Foreign minister and Thaci as prime minister?

Are they willing to accept that’s Albanians to have veto power on everything?

@ teodor muzaka - you've mistaken Srbija for Macedobnia! You've managed to grow your population with them because you like to f**k like rabbits...where do you see the pride in this?
That's the problem with the mostly popular Albanian vision of a negotiated deal with BG...BG will NOT give you ANYTHING in exchange for something that already belongs to them.
A deal will consist of Albanians running their own show, own police, own judicial system, own language schools on Serbian land. BG will have no control if you want to breed over 5 million Albs in Kosovo & Metohija, you can live on top of each other if you like. BG will have no control on your way and who you do business with....In return, K&M property is Serbian and you have NO say in Serbian Government.

And if ramush doesn't follow orders, he won't get a signed Christmas card from White House next year, got it?
(Watcher, 10 January 2018 17:02)


Watcher,
How many times are you going to say "got it?". How old are you, 12 years old? You must learn to accept that you live in a fantasy world, if not, then you'll end up like sj. But then again, I think you already know that.
(The Count of Kosova, 12 January 2018 04:17)

@ count of Kosovo - ok, my apologies, didn't think that would bother you so much! No more "got it's?"!

On the other hands, I cannot comprehend your "fantasy" remark...this Frankenstein project of taking of a percentage of one's land and trying to pretend it's another "country"? That is not fantasy?

question: Would Tirana fight the SAME way BG has been fighting back for years if a chunk of property was ripped from them and the thief called the stolen property a new "country"?
Please don't tell me about how the Albs DESERVE K&M due to how they were treated by BG...just stick to the question "what would Tirana do?" Would they fight for their borders or would they surrender it?

Ciao Giovanni........

It was only 2017 a few days ago and you all here are still arguing
Instead of wanting to be friends
Just saying
(Sam, 10 January 2018 22:33)
@ sam - It starts with you, sam. Friends don't want to take 100% of the pie, they discuss on how best to share the pie...if they're "friends", that is;)

@ Peggy

Mark,
This is only your wishful thinking. You see, there will be no more NATO raining bombs on Serbia so that alone makes today's situation a lot different.
(Peggy, 11 January 2018 02:09)

Yes there will be no NATO bombing this time, all will be settled with negotiations. I hope that the thought of no war doesn’t disappoint you? Or is that just your wishful thinking?

@Lol


Like I said it won’t be Vucic, he will have Brnarbic take the fall.
Plus he has the police and Media in his pocket.
Vucic wants Serbia in the EU and he realizes that Kosovo is lost.
That is something many Serbs do not want to hear but the facts on the ground prove it.
What REALISTICALLY can Serbia do to take control of Kosovo?
With the only alternative being going to war and risking sanctions I don’t think the people of Serbia have the stomach for that so soon after the last wars.

The UAE and China are just truing to make a profit, if there are sanctions put on Serbia from the EU and the west they will look elsewhere. It is only Russia that will support Serbia but it too is under sanctions and the long term outlook for the price of oil is not looking good for their finances.

As for the Albanians on this site, I don’t know you will have to ask them.

Like I said before I am not Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, or Albanian. I just spent a lot of time in the region in the early 1990’s for work and still return often for work.

I took a course before I went to the region in 1991 and while there I had both Serbian and Croatian tutors over my years there. Conversationally I am good, Reading I am OK (with the help of Google translate for complex topics). As for writing, very poor to nil due to the complex grammar. Kosovo was out of my region so I never had to learn Albanian.
(Mark.W, 11 January 2018 22:09)
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Really?
Why on earth would you go to that region with war a civil war raging?
Were you there as a soldier?
Any soldier sent there was part of UN and they didn't take lessons in Serbian or Croatian.
What was your interest in the region while at war?

Not so fast Goon, not so fast.

@Peggy I will reply in this section.

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Hi Mark,
Seeing how you're not Serbian, Croatian etc. how well do you speak Serbian and when and where did you learn it?
If you can understand the Serbian speaking site then your command of Serbian must be very good.
So who taught you the language and if you don't mind telling us which nationality is yours?
(Peggy, 11 January 2018 02:28)

@ Peggy

I took a course before I went to the region in 1991 and while there I had both Serbian and Croatian tutors over my years there. Conversationally I am good, Reading I am OK (with the help of Google translate for complex topics). As for writing, very poor to nil due to the complex grammar. Kosovo was out of my region so I never had to learn Albanian.

this Frankenstein project of taking of a percentage of one's land and trying to pretend it's another "country"? That is not fantasy?
(Watcher, 12 January 2018 17:50)

Of course it is a fantasy, dear, until you list the parcels of land which, according to you, were taken from one person and were given to another person. Things don't become reality just because you fantasise about them!
(icj1, 13 January 2018 19:18) # Comment link

@icj prosta- Lol, forget it! Like talking to a 10 yr old retarded kid, 😂

And if ramush doesn't follow orders, he won't get a signed Christmas card from White House next year, got it?
(Watcher, 10 January 2018 17:02)


Watcher,
How many times are you going to say "got it?". How old are you, 12 years old? You must learn to accept that you live in a fantasy world, if not, then you'll end up like sj. But then again, I think you already know that.

If B92 will permit the following link. A very interesting article.
See what our fearless leader is really up to.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/serbias-sovereignty-as-a-nation-state-a-policy-of-complete-surrender-kosovo-and-eu-integration/5625514

Yes there will be no NATO bombing this time, all will be settled with negotiations. I hope that the thought of no war doesn’t disappoint you? Or is that just your wishful thinking?
(Mark.W, 11 January 2018 21:49)
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Where did I say I wanted a war? But, if that's the only way to take our holy Kosovo back then sadly that's the way it has to be.
The only reason you think that Kosovo is lost is because Serbia doesn't have patriots leading her.
Once Serbs realize that there will be.

@icj1:
"Of course it is a fantasy, dear, until you list the parcels of land which, according to you, were taken from one person and were given to another person. Things don't become reality just because you fantasise about them!"

correct! kosovo is not a reality simply because you fantasize over it.
furthermore to your request: the parcel of land in question is the province of kosovo, which is internationally recognized as part of the internationally recognized state of serbia (due wholly to kosovo's current state of affairs (namely being an unresolved conflict), and serbia's territorial claims that are as such recognized by the un (the international order of nations)). it is one, very large, parcel of land nestled neatly at serbia's sourthern end, south east of montenegro, east of albania, north of macedonia.

do you wish for the square footage and other nearby amenities, like hospitals, schools, shopping???

this Frankenstein project of taking of a percentage of one's land and trying to pretend it's another "country"? That is not fantasy?
(Watcher, 12 January 2018 17:50)

Of course it is a fantasy, dear, until you list the parcels of land which, according to you, were taken from one person and were given to another person. Things don't become reality just because you fantasise about them!

Serbian public accuses Vucic of Treason. Interseting article, much like the other link I recently posted on this site. If B92 would not mind posting this one also.

https://eadaily.com/en/news/2018/01/09/serbian-public-suspects-vucic-of-treason

this Frankenstein project of taking of a percentage of one's land and trying to pretend it's another "country"? That is not fantasy?
(Watcher, 12 January 2018 17:50)

Of course it is a fantasy, dear, until you list the parcels of land which, according to you, were taken from one person and were given to another person. Things don't become reality just because you fantasise about them!
(icj1, 13 January 2018 19:18)

forget it!
(Watcher, 15 January 2018 07:14)

Of course... I'm glad that you finally realised that what you wrote at 12 January 2018 17:50 should be forgotten since it was just a fantasy of yours!

if that's the only way to take our holy Kosovo back
(Peggy, 15 January 2018 04:46)

You are not making any sense, dear. According to the most patriotic of Serbs, Kosovo is Serbia already, so there is nothing to take back lol

this Frankenstein project of taking of a percentage of one's land and trying to pretend it's another "country"? That is not fantasy?
(Watcher, 12 January 2018 17:50)

Of course it is a fantasy, dear, until you list the parcels of land which, according to you, were taken from one person and were given to another person. Things don't become reality just because you fantasise about them!
(icj1, 13 January 2018 19:18)

furthermore to your request: the parcel of land in question is the province of kosovo
(iron knee, 15 January 2018 21:57)

Ok... I checked Serbia's land registry http://katastar.rgz.gov.rs/KnWebPublic/PublicAccess.aspx and there is not such parcel of land. But there is probably still hope... Do you have the parcel number and the cadastral municipality where the parcel of land that Watcher was referring to is located?

We already found a lasting solution. It`s called the Republik of Kosova. What your "solution" will be is up to you. Tell us when you are ready. We`ll note it.

Kosova independent as an Republic was the great compromise Albanians gave to serbs. If you ask Albanians what we want is to unite with Albania.

The only solution you in Serbia should come up with, is how to accept and recognize Republic of Kosova. I say it this way: It is much easiser for Kosova to be part of Albania than Serbia.

The only way for Serbia to occupy Kosova is to send in the army and ethnic cleanse the Albanian population. You had that chance once and failed that mission. That chance you will never get again.

If you think Albanian leaders will accept Serbian rule then you are just stupid!

Watcher, 10 January 2018 14:56)

If Kosovo je serbia, then why are YOU looking for solutions? Don’t you feel bigger loser then us ?
Think about it “ solution” what is that supposed to mean?

@ demi

"The only way for Serbia to occupy Kosova is to send in the army and ethnic cleanse the Albanian population. You had that chance once and failed that mission. That chance you will never get again. "

In Kosmet this is something albanians have been doing for decades and continue to do to this day, ethnic cleansing serbs, committing terror against serbs, murder, harassment, intimidation, committed and continue to commit genocide against serbs.

Get your facts straight demi and stop writing lies

”We already found a lasting solution. It`s called the Republik of Kosova. What your "solution" will be is up to you. Tell us when you are ready. We`ll note it.
(Gjon Marku, 10 January 2018 11:20)”

You are totally wrong Gjon, believe me.
I bet you as much as you want that the Kosovo story has only been told about 20-30%.
I see it, I hear it, I read it and I discuss it every day.

Kosova independent as an Republic was the great compromise Albanians gave to serbs. If you ask Albanians what we want is to unite with Albania.

The only solution you in Serbia should come up with, is how to accept and recognize Republic of Kosova. I say it this way: It is much easiser for Kosova to be part of Albania than Serbia.

The only way for Serbia to occupy Kosova is to send in the army and ethnic cleanse the Albanian population. You had that chance once and failed that mission. That chance you will never get again.

If you think Albanian leaders will accept Serbian rule then you are just stupid!
(Demi, 10 January 2018 15:58)

@ dumi - First, Albania doesn't want you...you are a liability in their quest for EU membership.
Second, say Tirana does the dumbest thing and annexes "kosova", what value do you bring them? Bigger welfare payments? bigger debt?
Third, it would set the stage for opening of Pandora's box again...it would legalize Crimea to Russia, RS to Srbija, etc....not happening! The world is against this.

Get it thru your head...your time of "europes youngest democracy" sham is over, it's a big boys game and you don't have the pants for it, Hence you will do as told!
And if ramush doesn't follow orders, he won't get a signed Christmas card from White House next year, got it?

The solution is found already, Kosovo is off, however, lets play devils advocate for a moment, what is the solution here? I will discount anything that espouses ethnic expulsion and/or killing. More than autonomy, less than independence...hpw does that work? A veto on Serbian foreign policy?
(Nikolle, 10 January 2018 16:28

Keep it a Southern Province of Serbia without any influence from Albania - remember Albania has no claim here. Return property to the displaced (ethnically cleansed) Serbs that was illegally taken. Repair and restore the monasteries and churches that were destroyed - to be fair, only the ones after 1999 when the war was over Then live happily ever after.....

It looks like the narrative is being prepared for the recognition of Kosovo.

Vucic will have Brnabic do the deal on the recognition of Kosovo, then when the nationalists go crazy he will replace her and say that she did it all on her own and that it is now too late to change it.

Then the conspiracy theories will start with her being the granddaughter of an Ustasa who made a secret deal with the Vatican, Germany, and the LGBT community to work against the Serb people and the Serbian Orthodox Church.

If Serbia was to hold a referendum regarding Kosova, I can assure that 70% will vote to forget Kosova and move along to live in peace and prosperity with its neighboring countries!

I would not be surprise if sometime this year, Vucic will call the referendum! Time will tell.
(the truth, 10 January 2018 19:17)


@ truth - assure? You can't assure s**t! You've been assuring now for how many years and it's all unraveling in front of your own nose...not only can you not "asure" anything, you can't do anything about it!
Go pound sand!...until you learn you have to negotiate with BG, you are destined to live in this ghetto stillborn abortion project called "kosova"...

If Serbia was to hold a referendum regarding Kosova, I can assure that 70% will vote to forget Kosova and move along to live in peace and prosperity with its neighboring countries!

I would not be surprise if sometime this year, Vucic will call the referendum! Time will tell.
(the truth, 10 January 2018 19:17)
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What do you base that on? Like Mark, your wishful thinking?

The solution is found already, Kosovo is off, however, lets play devils advocate for a moment, what is the solution here? I will discount anything that espouses ethnic expulsion and/or killing. More than autonomy, less than independence...hpw does that work? A veto on Serbian foreign policy?

"Keep it a Southern Province of Serbia without any influence from Albania "....good luck with that. what you suggest, is not going to happen, not the displaced bit, but the political solution. You may wish that there were no Albanians in holy Kosmet, or for that matter the world, but wishing is not going to change the reality on the ground

@Watcher

that's no answer, that's just waffle. neither side will be happy with...so tell me, what will make Belgrade unhappy? a veto power on Serbian foreign policy? An army for Kosovo, independent of Serbia, but still part of Serbia? You know, these sort of things have to be discussed, because independence or not, Albanians are still there and they're not an insignificant number. Belgrade seems to think that by merely using phrases, they're offering solutions, but there's zero details to their ideas.

23 years ago Vucic was in Glina giving a speech how Serbia will always defend the RSK. Then a few years later there was no Krajna anymore and Serbia did nothing. The same will happen but this time without war just financial self interest.
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Mark,
This is only your wishful thinking. You see, there will be no more NATO raining bombs on Serbia so that alone makes today's situation a lot different.

The people in Serbia will then see large amounts of EU money come in and will slowly get on with their lives. Sure there will be demonstrations but I think Vucic has a strong hold on the Police and Media and will be able to come out unscathed.. Brnarbic will be the sacrificial lamb which will be easy since she has Croatian blood in her and is Gay which are two things Serbs love to hate.
(Mark.W, 10 January 2018 20:05) # Comment

You think wrong Mark))I live in Serbia and tell you Vucic would be ousted like Milosevic, if he was to try to sell out Kosovo to Europe ))
Majority of Serbian people in Serbia cannot be bought with a fist full of dollars (EU scrapes).
Do not forget that UAE ,China and Russia have to invested in Serbia .
Serbs will always have more then 2 chairs to choose )))
Mark ,your views are wishful thinking) )and Fairy tales) )
Why are Shqiptars still trying to persuade Serbs on a Serb Site that they have a country called Kosovo after 10 years )))That to me is funny by you Shqiptars behaviour) )

We already found a lasting solution. It`s called the Republik of Kosova. What your "solution" will be is up to you. Tell us when you are ready. We`ll note it.
(Gjon Marku, 10 January 2018 11:20)

@ gjon marku - lol, your solution will be what your masters tell you it will be, got it? and they are working with BG to come up with a solution..whether you like it it or not!
It's cute how you think you have a say in this matter! The best you can hope for is BG decides to be fair and give you something...now get back to work cleaning KFOR toilets...

My grandfather was a Croat and he is not a Serb from Croatia, he is a Croat from the island of Krk. I spent my childhood there, I have many friends there, we have many similarities," Brnabic said.

Asked if she would like Yugoslavia to exist again, Brnabic replied: "No."

Like a snake sheds it's skin but it remains the same snake !!!

So the Serbian people can not find them selves within, they are going out side just like they did in 1945 when they put their new mortal god Josip Broz Tito on the throne in Beograd and murdered their own Serbian Brothers and Sisters ! This woman is a Croatian and she is a homo sexual, good job Serbian idiots !!!

Tell us when you are ready. We`ll note it.
(Gjon Marku, 10 January 2018 11:20)

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Are you the same Gjon Marku who also prophetically noted years ago that residents of KiM without Serbian travel documents would have visa-free access to the EU?
Perhaps “note-taking” and broader educational literacy are poorly taught in dysfunctional fenced-in ghettos?

We already found a lasting solution. It`s called the Republik of Kosova. What your "solution" will be is up to you. Tell us when you are ready. We`ll note it.
(Gjon Marku, 10 January 2018

We Serbia will more it,Goon ))
Then we will tell you how it will be ,NOT what you will be expecting ))
How is your dishwashing job in Melbourne coming along) )
It's a pity that you cannot afford live in Kosovo and live abroad ))

It looks like the narrative is being prepared for the recognition of Kosovo.

Vucic will have Brnabic do the deal on the recognition of Kosovo, then when the nationalists go crazy he will replace her and say that she did it all on her own and that it is now too late to change it.

Then the conspiracy theories will start with her being the granddaughter of an Ustasa who made a secret deal with the Vatican, Germany, and the LGBT community to work against the Serb people and the Serbian Orthodox Church.
(Mark.W, 10 January 2018 17:18)

@ mark w - could very well possibly be, but what would Srbija get out of that deal? You guys would get 100% and BG 0%...Vucic would never be able to sell that to the people! It's been proven that the people of Srbija would never "give away" K&M for EU entry or even "preferred" status...

Ković: Hajka na Amfilohija je priprema za prihvatanje stolice Kosova u UN http://www.rtv.rs/sr_lat/politika/kovic-hajka-na-amfilohija-je-priprema-za-prihvatanje-stolice-kosova-u-un_884454.html

@ mark w - could very well possibly be, but what would Srbija get out of that deal? You guys would get 100% and BG 0%...Vucic would never be able to sell that to the people! It's been proven that the people of Srbija would never "give away" K&M for EU entry or even "preferred" status...
(Watcher, 10 January 2018 18:22) # Comment link

Don’t be too sure Vucic wouldn’t do it.

23 years ago Vucic was in Glina giving a speech how Serbia will always defend the RSK. Then a few years later there was no Krajna anymore and Serbia did nothing. The same will happen but this time without war just financial self interest.

The people in Serbia will then see large amounts of EU money come in and will slowly get on with their lives. Sure there will be demonstrations but I think Vucic has a strong hold on the Police and Media and will be able to come out unscathed.. Brnarbic will be the sacrificial lamb which will be easy since she has Croatian blood in her and is Gay which are two things Serbs love to hate.

jb- so right. When will all those cleansed Serbs get their property back should be everyones first question on reconciliation.

The solution is found already, Kosovo is off, however, lets play devils advocate for a moment, what is the solution here? I will discount anything that espouses ethnic expulsion and/or killing. More than autonomy, less than independence...hpw does that work? A veto on Serbian foreign policy?
(Nikolle, 10 January 2018 16:28)

@ Nikolle - reasonable question, finally. Thank you! What "more than autonomy, less than independence" means is not up to you or me, but the powers to be at these "talks"...BG was/is helpless to push progress at these talks until Pristina gets off the "Independence or nothing" kick...and I can't blame them because they have their western masters support on it.
A reasonable solution that probably neither side will be happy with is the ONLY way to move forward...NOTHING else.
If BG "gives away" Kosovo I Metojia, then Srb discontent will be with BG administration, not Albanian authorities!...and vice versa!
Hope this helps somewhat. Thanks for the question!

It's time for Serbia to either shit or get off the pot.Serbia has gone as far as It can in the European integration for the European Union process but this whole not recognizing Kosovo though has brought the train to a screeching stop. That's why 2018 is so important, it is time to show that your ass is really not on two seats at the same time and you choose EU instead of Russia. Good luck with your dialogue Serbia and Serbs.

Are serbs ready to accept Haradinaj as Foreign minister and Thaci as prime minister?

Are they willing to accept that’s Albanians to have veto power on everything?

@ teodor muzaka - you've mistaken Srbija for Macedobnia! You've managed to grow your population with them because you like to f**k like rabbits...where do you see the pride in this?
That's the problem with the mostly popular Albanian vision of a negotiated deal with BG...BG will NOT give you ANYTHING in exchange for something that already belongs to them.
A deal will consist of Albanians running their own show, own police, own judicial system, own language schools on Serbian land. BG will have no control if you want to breed over 5 million Albs in Kosovo & Metohija, you can live on top of each other if you like. BG will have no control on your way and who you do business with....In return, K&M property is Serbian and you have NO say in Serbian Government.

We`ll note it.

Gjon, and then you'll accept it big fella...

@ mark w - could very well possibly be, but what would Srbija get out of that deal? You guys would get 100% and BG 0%...Vucic would never be able to sell that to the people! It's been proven that the people of Srbija would never "give away" K&M for EU entry or even "preferred" status...
(Watcher, 10 January 2018 18:22) # Comment


If Serbia was to hold a referendum regarding Kosova, I can assure that 70% will vote to forget Kosova and move along to live in peace and prosperity with its neighboring countries!

I would not be surprise if sometime this year, Vucic will call the referendum! Time will tell.

It was only 2017 a few days ago and you all here are still arguing
Instead of wanting to be friends
Just saying
(Sam, 10 January 2018 22:33)
@ sam - It starts with you, sam. Friends don't want to take 100% of the pie, they discuss on how best to share the pie...if they're "friends", that is;)

looks like the same question 20 years ago, nobody did sweet about croatia or kosovo with the enthic cleansing of serbian people, let alone the right to their property, seems like the same real estate agent in both cases, who ever the magot is,c give you a hint but will be banned from this site

Ciao Giovanni........

"...NO say in Serbian Government."...why not? That would make us unequal citizens wouldnt it? I do get that your mind is addled with clero-fascist tendencies, but that does not mean its the way to go. Put it this way sunshine, there's nothing that Serbia can do to get holy Kosmet back, at best, it disrupt its development, but thats it. All you tjat is left to you, is to write how you will be back on B92

this Frankenstein project of taking of a percentage of one's land and trying to pretend it's another "country"? That is not fantasy?
(Watcher, 12 January 2018 17:50)

Of course it is a fantasy, dear, until you list the parcels of land which, according to you, were taken from one person and were given to another person. Things don't become reality just because you fantasise about them!

The only way for Serbia to occupy Kosova is to send in the army and ethnic cleanse the Albanian population. You had that chance once and failed that mission. That chance you will never get again.
(Demi, 10 January 2018 15:58)

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In a world where the USA military industrial complex is fully dependent on perpetual global instability, your scenario is not a question of if, but more aptly: When? We'll be ethnically cleansing one another until we realize it's in our interest to live together.

The only way for Serbia to occupy Kosova is to send in the army and ethnic cleanse the Albanian population. You had that chance once and failed that mission. That chance you will never get again.
(Demi, 10 January 2018 15:58)

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In a world where the USA military industrial complex is fully dependent on perpetual global instability, your scenario is not a question of if, but more aptly: When? We'll be ethnically cleansing one another until we realize it's in our interest to live together.
(Moore, 10 January 2018 16:56)

@Moore - sadly, a very true statement! Well said!

Are serbs ready to accept Haradinaj as Foreign minister and Thaci as prime minister?

Are they willing to accept that’s Albanians to have veto power on everything?


If yes ok ,take Kosovo back...I am sure you will be curse yourself every day.

The lasting solution is exchange two town halls in North with Presevo Valley,follow with formal recognition of Republic of Kosovo by Serbia .

Every formula for Kosovo under Serbia will be political suicide for all serbs.

And if ramush doesn't follow orders, he won't get a signed Christmas card from White House next year, got it?
(Watcher, 10 January 2018 17:02)


Watcher,
How many times are you going to say "got it?". How old are you, 12 years old? You must learn to accept that you live in a fantasy world, if not, then you'll end up like sj. But then again, I think you already know that.

Not so fast Goon, not so fast.

It was only 2017 a few days ago and you all here are still arguing
Instead of wanting to be friends
Just saying

Yes there will be no NATO bombing this time, all will be settled with negotiations. I hope that the thought of no war doesn’t disappoint you? Or is that just your wishful thinking?
(Mark.W, 11 January 2018 21:49)
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Where did I say I wanted a war? But, if that's the only way to take our holy Kosovo back then sadly that's the way it has to be.
The only reason you think that Kosovo is lost is because Serbia doesn't have patriots leading her.
Once Serbs realize that there will be.

if that's the only way to take our holy Kosovo back
(Peggy, 15 January 2018 04:46)

You are not making any sense, dear. According to the most patriotic of Serbs, Kosovo is Serbia already, so there is nothing to take back lol

@ Peggy

Mark,
This is only your wishful thinking. You see, there will be no more NATO raining bombs on Serbia so that alone makes today's situation a lot different.
(Peggy, 11 January 2018 02:09)

Yes there will be no NATO bombing this time, all will be settled with negotiations. I hope that the thought of no war doesn’t disappoint you? Or is that just your wishful thinking?

And if ramush doesn't follow orders, he won't get a signed Christmas card from White House next year, got it?
(Watcher, 10 January 2018 17:02)


Watcher,
How many times are you going to say "got it?". How old are you, 12 years old? You must learn to accept that you live in a fantasy world, if not, then you'll end up like sj. But then again, I think you already know that.
(The Count of Kosova, 12 January 2018 04:17)

@ count of Kosovo - ok, my apologies, didn't think that would bother you so much! No more "got it's?"!

On the other hands, I cannot comprehend your "fantasy" remark...this Frankenstein project of taking of a percentage of one's land and trying to pretend it's another "country"? That is not fantasy?

question: Would Tirana fight the SAME way BG has been fighting back for years if a chunk of property was ripped from them and the thief called the stolen property a new "country"?
Please don't tell me about how the Albs DESERVE K&M due to how they were treated by BG...just stick to the question "what would Tirana do?" Would they fight for their borders or would they surrender it?

If B92 will permit the following link. A very interesting article.
See what our fearless leader is really up to.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/serbias-sovereignty-as-a-nation-state-a-policy-of-complete-surrender-kosovo-and-eu-integration/5625514

this Frankenstein project of taking of a percentage of one's land and trying to pretend it's another "country"? That is not fantasy?
(Watcher, 12 January 2018 17:50)

Of course it is a fantasy, dear, until you list the parcels of land which, according to you, were taken from one person and were given to another person. Things don't become reality just because you fantasise about them!
(icj1, 13 January 2018 19:18) # Comment link

@icj prosta- Lol, forget it! Like talking to a 10 yr old retarded kid, 😂

this Frankenstein project of taking of a percentage of one's land and trying to pretend it's another "country"? That is not fantasy?
(Watcher, 12 January 2018 17:50)

Of course it is a fantasy, dear, until you list the parcels of land which, according to you, were taken from one person and were given to another person. Things don't become reality just because you fantasise about them!
(icj1, 13 January 2018 19:18)

forget it!
(Watcher, 15 January 2018 07:14)

Of course... I'm glad that you finally realised that what you wrote at 12 January 2018 17:50 should be forgotten since it was just a fantasy of yours!

this Frankenstein project of taking of a percentage of one's land and trying to pretend it's another "country"? That is not fantasy?
(Watcher, 12 January 2018 17:50)

Of course it is a fantasy, dear, until you list the parcels of land which, according to you, were taken from one person and were given to another person. Things don't become reality just because you fantasise about them!
(icj1, 13 January 2018 19:18)

furthermore to your request: the parcel of land in question is the province of kosovo
(iron knee, 15 January 2018 21:57)

Ok... I checked Serbia's land registry http://katastar.rgz.gov.rs/KnWebPublic/PublicAccess.aspx and there is not such parcel of land. But there is probably still hope... Do you have the parcel number and the cadastral municipality where the parcel of land that Watcher was referring to is located?

@Lol


Like I said it won’t be Vucic, he will have Brnarbic take the fall.
Plus he has the police and Media in his pocket.
Vucic wants Serbia in the EU and he realizes that Kosovo is lost.
That is something many Serbs do not want to hear but the facts on the ground prove it.
What REALISTICALLY can Serbia do to take control of Kosovo?
With the only alternative being going to war and risking sanctions I don’t think the people of Serbia have the stomach for that so soon after the last wars.

The UAE and China are just truing to make a profit, if there are sanctions put on Serbia from the EU and the west they will look elsewhere. It is only Russia that will support Serbia but it too is under sanctions and the long term outlook for the price of oil is not looking good for their finances.

As for the Albanians on this site, I don’t know you will have to ask them.

Like I said before I am not Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, or Albanian. I just spent a lot of time in the region in the early 1990’s for work and still return often for work.

@Peggy I will reply in this section.

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Hi Mark,
Seeing how you're not Serbian, Croatian etc. how well do you speak Serbian and when and where did you learn it?
If you can understand the Serbian speaking site then your command of Serbian must be very good.
So who taught you the language and if you don't mind telling us which nationality is yours?
(Peggy, 11 January 2018 02:28)

@ Peggy

I took a course before I went to the region in 1991 and while there I had both Serbian and Croatian tutors over my years there. Conversationally I am good, Reading I am OK (with the help of Google translate for complex topics). As for writing, very poor to nil due to the complex grammar. Kosovo was out of my region so I never had to learn Albanian.

Serbian public accuses Vucic of Treason. Interseting article, much like the other link I recently posted on this site. If B92 would not mind posting this one also.

https://eadaily.com/en/news/2018/01/09/serbian-public-suspects-vucic-of-treason

I took a course before I went to the region in 1991 and while there I had both Serbian and Croatian tutors over my years there. Conversationally I am good, Reading I am OK (with the help of Google translate for complex topics). As for writing, very poor to nil due to the complex grammar. Kosovo was out of my region so I never had to learn Albanian.
(Mark.W, 11 January 2018 22:09)
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Really?
Why on earth would you go to that region with war a civil war raging?
Were you there as a soldier?
Any soldier sent there was part of UN and they didn't take lessons in Serbian or Croatian.
What was your interest in the region while at war?

@icj1:
"Of course it is a fantasy, dear, until you list the parcels of land which, according to you, were taken from one person and were given to another person. Things don't become reality just because you fantasise about them!"

correct! kosovo is not a reality simply because you fantasize over it.
furthermore to your request: the parcel of land in question is the province of kosovo, which is internationally recognized as part of the internationally recognized state of serbia (due wholly to kosovo's current state of affairs (namely being an unresolved conflict), and serbia's territorial claims that are as such recognized by the un (the international order of nations)). it is one, very large, parcel of land nestled neatly at serbia's sourthern end, south east of montenegro, east of albania, north of macedonia.

do you wish for the square footage and other nearby amenities, like hospitals, schools, shopping???