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Thursday, 09.11.2017.

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We have "big hole" in diplomatic relations - FM

Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic thinks Serbia has "a big hole in diplomatic relations, because it underestimates some countries" - that are her friends.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 13 November 2017 13:34)

If I am keyboard Serbian patriot living in Australia why don’t you live in Kosovo?

Again, I ask, what has the US invested for the benefit of people in Kosovo? has it brought any industry? are there any US corporations there? have they announced any plans for Kosovo?

If Kosovo is independent it would not have the EU running Kosovo; it would not have a foreign army there, and most important it would not seek Serbian recognition.

It’s very hard for you to accept that if the US can screw the Kurds after making them promises, and the Kurds have given a lot more than the Albanians then doing the same with Albanians in Kosovo is not a problem. It’s how the US operates.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

If Kosovo is independent people like you would not be on this site arguing its case, it would not have the EU controlling Kosovo, and it would not have a foreign army there, plus why chase Serbia for recognition?

You need Serbia to recognise Kosovo and Belgrade will never do that so Kosovo is stuck in the twilight zone.
(sj, 13 November 2017 08:43)

I do not need anything, this is a forum to share opinions and we are just conversing here, in the end, it will happen what will happen.

Why it bothers you if someone supporting Albanian side comes to this forum but at the same time are so high stung to have Albanians live with Serbs in Serbia?

Must Albanians be obedient and share no opinion, have no rights and just be 2nd class in Serbian apartheid state of the 1990s.

Old saying goes when you can not argue: raise the voice or insult, I am sure you wish to raise the voice but no one can hear you so hence trying to be a keyboard Serbian patriot living in Australia not Serbia.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 10 November 2017 22:41)

Well Rene’, I am aghast that my language and grammatical skills do not meet Albo standards, but who am I to impress here? Albos? Most can barely write.
Macedonia, Montenegro and Greece have issues with Albos. Macedonia recently gave lengthy sentences to several of your Albos from Kosovo for a terrorist attack on a police station back in 2015?
The Kurds not only sided with the US during the Iraq war they even went to war for the US and these people gave much more than your Albanians in Kosovo. In the end the US sold them out, and that is exactly what is going to occur to Albos in Kosovo. It’s how the US works. The US has no loyalty.
What has the US invested for the benefit of people in Kosovo? nothing; has it brought any industry? No; are there any US corporations there? No; have they announced any plans for Kosovo? No, so what’s there to protect? Nothing.

If Kosovo is independent people like you would not be on this site arguing its case, it would not have the EU controlling Kosovo, and it would not have a foreign army there, plus why chase Serbia for recognition?

You need Serbia to recognise Kosovo and Belgrade will never do that so Kosovo is stuck in the twilight zone.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Yes because that big a**HOLE is you, little Sloba. By the way is he talking about the same Tito (half Croatian and half Slovenian), and same Yugoslavia his boss and himself destroyed? Funny how he say nothing about his boss big Sloba?

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Alo Alo
If Serbia was serious about integrating territories from 1918. internationally recognised for a huge reasons for the humanity they would joined NATO, they will have lots of kids, put in place far better economical standard then the Wesern countries have, they will have casinos who gives away at least $3 every single day to their members who show up out there.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Now let's see which countries have issues with Kosovo; Macedonia? Yes; naturally Serbia, Greece? Yes, Montenegro? Yes. Have I missed anyone out?
(sj, 10 November 2017 21:47)

Yes, you missed Albania no issue at all.

Macedonia has no issue with Kosovo they have accepted it, Same with Montenegro ( i know you will bring oh its Djukanovic, not the people blah bla).

"OK, Rene let me point it out to you. The US made big promises to the Kurds if they provided assistance and did not take up arms against the US and one was independence, Noes see if it gets through your skull; the US made promises to the Kurds if they helped they would get independence."

I Honestly do not understand what RENE let me point out means Nor Noes see if it get through your skull - means.

1. The USA has already given Albanians independence.
2. You are comparing Apples and oranges, Kurdistan was never recognized, nor anyone promised more than to be looked at a later time.
3. Macedonia, Montenegro, Albania all have recognized Kosovo. Even if Just Albania did that is enough to have access to goods vs. Kurdistan it's not possible. Turkey has the pipeline, Iran is Ran and Syria does what Iran wants.
4. Greece does not border Kosovo ( I know you got lost out there but ok).

Now if you can not get it through your thick skull as the expression goes that you were trying to use above - it's futile.

Also, your language skills are quite poor for an Australian, with bad punctuation and grammar.

sj

pre 6 godina

sj,
You misspelled "miss spell", one word.

No, you have not used "gilding the lily" properly. It still means what it always meant: to try improve what is already beautiful or excellent.
(Mildred Green, 10 November 2017 16:04)

When you are amongst the uneducated Albos why would you bother spelling since most have not learnt how to use grammar let alone spell words. Who am I going to impress? People like you LOL?

Azir

pre 6 godina

Attention ignorant Saso

What I said was Sj’s English writing skills improved but his nonsense was still nonsense...

Typical Serb “logic”.....nonsense!

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 10 November 2017 13:19)

OK Rene let me point it out to you. The US made big promises to the Kurds if they provided assistance and did not take up arms against the US and one was independence, Noes see if it gets through your skull; the US made promises to the Kurds if they helped they would get independence.

The US has backed out of that deal and left the Kurds high and dry on their own where now they are being chocked economically by Baghdad to either tow the line or troops will come in and wipe all resistance out.

If the US can do that to the Kurds and these people have helped the US much more than Albos then they will do the same to Albos in Kosovo.

Now let's see which countries have issues with Kosovo; Macedonia? Yes; naturally Serbia, Greece? Yes, Montenegro? Yes. Have I missed anyone out?

Sasa from Near Jagodina City

pre 6 godina

Sj your English is so improving but you still don’t make much sense...
(Azir, 10 November 2017 17:30)

You mean to write " your English is improving tremendous "!
But your English is not improving,
AZIR 😀))

Mildred Green

pre 6 godina

sj,
It is clear, from your use, you don't even know what "gilding the lily" means. Secondly, learn to spell.
(Mildred Green, 9 November 2017 22:22)

Yes I did miss spell the word gilding, but modern interpretation and usage means to embellish beyond its actual state. So I have used it properly.
(sj, 10 November 2017 12:14)


sj,
You misspelled "miss spell", one word.

No, you have not used "gilding the lily" properly. It still means what it always meant: to try improve what is already beautiful or excellent.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

The US promised the Kurds independents if they helped it out, but look at them now. Baghdad is crushing them economically and the US of Piss and Wind can do nothing.
(sj, 10 November 2017 12:16)

You are comparing Kurdistan with Kosovo?

1. Kurdistan has a big issue with all its neighbors and Iraq who do not want to give it independence due to Kurds in those countries.

2. Geography dictates that Kurdish people are patient even though they truly deserve their own nation.

3. What should USA do bomb Turkey, or fragile Iraq, or go to war with Iran?

Serbia/ Kosovo case - All neighbors bordering Kosovo have accepted it as independent except Serbia.

Goods can move freely so can people, from Kosovo vs Kurdistan won't be able too.

Kurdish people will get their wish in due time, however, your comparison to Kosovo is not correct.

Serbia does not want Kosovo back they want the north of Kosovo back, they do not want to change constitution nor plan to have Albanians as a large minority in a country who is about to join EU where they can not bully them like in the past.

Hence in Serbia there is internal dialogue to have some sugar coat to the pill they will have to swallow in due time. Much easier to integrate 40k Serbs in Kosovo than Albanians in Serbia.

If Serbia was serious about integrating Kosovo they would be working in the new constitution with Kosovo Albanians having same right Serbs have in Kosovo, would Serbia do that?

sj

pre 6 godina

sj,
It is clear, from your use, you don't even know what "gilding the lily" means. Secondly, learn to spell.
(Mildred Green, 9 November 2017 22:22)

Yes I did miss spell the word gilding, but modern interpretation and usage means to embellish beyond its actual state. So I have used it properly.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 9 November 2017 18:25)

Why is it when you guys don’t get something your after then it means nothing.

Why is it also when you can’t come up with a valid argument you start comparing the Serbian economy with the US and talking about GDP’s???? Not one middle eastern refugee has asked for asylum in Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Romania or Hungary let alone Serbia or Macedonia so since Slovenia has such a strong economy why don’t they ask to be resettled there???? Give it some thought.

The US promised the Kurds independents if they helped it out, but look at them now. Baghdad is crushing them economically and the US of Piss and Wind can do nothing. The US has sold out the Kurds and they will sell out the Albanians in Kosovo LOL.

sj

pre 6 godina

f Serbia was so successful, they wouldn't be begging to join the EU. They see the EU as their salvation and in the end will recognize Kosova in order to become a member. Serbia would throw Russia under the bus in a second if the EU would grant them membership. However, it is not that simple, EU bureaucrats have been offering the Serbs possible dates of admission, only to delay these dates each time the Serbs started to salivate. It should be obvious to the Serbs that the EU is jerking them around and has no intention of granting membership until they recognize Kosova and turn their back on Russia.
(The Count of Kosova, 10 November 2017 03:00)

You must be very desperate to write this rubbish LOL. It's Russia that has saved Serbia on many occasions so now you think Serbs would sell out Russia loL, You have to remember we are not Albanians or Croats.

By the way since Brussels is playing games with Serbia have they even given a date when either Kosova or Albania will start accession talks LOL????? I believe when pigs start flying.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

Serbia is working, and they are successful so far.
(Staff, 9 November 2017 22:10)


If Serbia was so successful, they wouldn't be begging to join the EU. They see the EU as their salvation and in the end will recognize Kosova in order to become a member. Serbia would throw Russia under the bus in a second if the EU would grant them membership. However, it is not that simple, EU bureaucrats have been offering the Serbs possible dates of admission, only to delay these dates each time the Serbs started to salivate. It should be obvious to the Serbs that the EU is jerking them around and has no intention of granting membership until they recognize Kosova and turn their back on Russia.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Kosovo is as long away it has ever been from being a state. Its not me who says it, its diplomats and western politicians.
(Staff, 9 November 2017 22:10)

Ok, but Kosovo is not as long away from being a state as it was when Serbia controlled Kosovo. So, what's your point?!

icj1

pre 6 godina

read up on the exciting things happening in Srbija...moving forward, that's all that counts.
(Watcher, 9 November 2017 21:55)

Absolutely, and Kosovo, like the rest of the region, is happy that Srbija is finally moving forward. Few people, if any, would want a failed Srbija state as a neighbour.
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As far as Kosovo...well, let's see how that one plays out, shall we? ;))
(Watcher, 9 November 2017 21:55)

You definitively shall, dear, if you so wish :)

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Speaking for TV Pink, Dacic said this concerns those countries to whom "(Yugoslav president) Tito still means something," and who have "great positive memories from past relations with Yugoslavia." Poor Dadic now has to represent and explain Serbia in all her wicked shameful criminal nakedness. Cant even hide behind Yugoslavia anymore. He must cry him self to sleep every night. Then have sweet dreams of Yugo. Him throwing flowers from his red basket as all the worker peasants are marshaled and applauding him. As Tito looks up from hell at him. Then he is rudely awakend by the phone again Serbiana on the line. Constipated as usual and bitching again why no one likes her.

Mildred Green

pre 6 godina

I think Dacic is guilding the proverbial lily here talking up the so-called difficulty.
(sj, 9 November 2017 13:31)


sj,
It is clear, from your use, you don't even know what "gilding the lily" means. Secondly, learn to spell.

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

"Hear how dark the future is"

Sorry staff maybe in your fantasy world but reality is things are getting darker for your kind who is shrinking and is about to vanish soon. "serbia is doing fine" Yeah Yugoslavia is dead and you are a poor landlocked country that is not even close to what yugoslavia used to be. You can fool yourself but not others. Watch as decades pass and how albanians will outnumber you in the near future.........

Staff

pre 6 godina

You still will never get Kosovo back no matter how many decades pass by :)
(Golden Eagle, 9 November 2017 18:37)

There are so may Albanian keyboard warriors here that does not know diddley. Ask your ”diplomats” and you will hear how dark the future is for Kosovo as a state. Kosovo is as long away it has ever been from being a state. Its not me who says it, its diplomats and western politicians.
Without your knowledge, there are about 9-10 countries that will revoke their recognitions. Just wait and see. While your leaders piss on you, and you are sitting on cafes drinking macciato, Serbia is working, and they are successful so far.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@golden eagle - Yes, investments, LOL..read up on the exciting things happening in Srbija...moving forward, that's all that counts.

As far as Kosovo...well, let's see how that one plays out, shall we? ;))

Justhetruth

pre 6 godina

You are just a Sad story and everytime you talk you don't make no sense , by the way how many people read it or know about his resume!?.. try and read it in Wikipedia..

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Watcher, 9 November 2017 16:28)

Well mr A**hole watcher Surinam never recognized Kosova, so revoked never happened, and it’s not such a thing.
UNESCO or not Kosova it’s 100 times better now then it used to be and we are 100 times happier with our corrupt government as long as they’re not serbs. Kosova It’s free independent country, you are the loser in this case and who’s a** herds the most mine or yours ?

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

Watcher

"investments"

And yet your country is stilll the poorest and least developed in Europe compared to many others

LOL XD

You still will never get Kosovo back no matter how many decades pass by :)

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Only pseudo politicians care about UNESCO what is Unesco, even if Kosovo joins it won't make it more independent than it is today or if it does not join it's not anything special.

So US and Israel left UNESCO what does this mean nada. Same goes for Kosovo politicians joining means nothing.

As for Dacic saying something about beating USA is funny, the man coming from a place with 5.5B GDP which smaller than 1000s publicly traded companies in the USA.

Serbia counts wins vs smaller countries, even Slovenia has a higher GDP 43B$.

SJ as for USA piss in wind it is super funny I have to admit it, you must be standing behind USA then :P

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@alb amerikan - you still sore about Suriname revoking recognition?
Or there is no economy in "kosova"? Or there is no path forward UNESCO?
Speaking of A**holes, are you butthurt BG is defending it's interest worldwide and attracting investments from all over the world...from the SAME countries that claim to support your "independence" and are not giving you a pot to piss in? Are you still butthurt? It's ok, I would understand if you were, I would be too!

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

That is a word missing in the title of this article .
We have a “big ASS hole” in our FM Ministry
That’s what’s missing (ASS)
309 terrorists fighting dirty fights in Ukraine, and you still wander?

sj

pre 6 godina

I think Dacic is guilding the proverbial lily here talking up the so-called difficulty. It just shows you how far the US of Piss and Wind has fallen. It could not manage to get Kosovo into UNESCO LOL.

As far as Brian Yee is concerned, well that is another US incompetent, much like Victoria Newland, trying to improve his career prospects by attempting to make himself look important. You only had to pay attention to Kyle Scott during that meeting with Yee and Vucic. You can see in Scott’s eyes that he was in pain with over Yee’s antics. In fact it was close to agony.

Now we have the US simpleton Yee backing down by declaring that he was not making a threat just an observation. If I was Tillerson I would call him into my office and hand him a mop to clean the State Department’s restrooms.

Yee is not the only inept individual working at the State Department, there are legions of them and that is why the Piss and Wind is folding across the world like a cheap suit.

SAs far as Ukraine is concerned I also think Dacic is over selling it too. If the EU cannot make Serbia recognise Kosovo, then what chances does Brussels have in getting Serbia to distance itself from Russia? None and Buckley’s.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

That is a word missing in the title of this article .
We have a “big ASS hole” in our FM Ministry
That’s what’s missing (ASS)
309 terrorists fighting dirty fights in Ukraine, and you still wander?

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Only pseudo politicians care about UNESCO what is Unesco, even if Kosovo joins it won't make it more independent than it is today or if it does not join it's not anything special.

So US and Israel left UNESCO what does this mean nada. Same goes for Kosovo politicians joining means nothing.

As for Dacic saying something about beating USA is funny, the man coming from a place with 5.5B GDP which smaller than 1000s publicly traded companies in the USA.

Serbia counts wins vs smaller countries, even Slovenia has a higher GDP 43B$.

SJ as for USA piss in wind it is super funny I have to admit it, you must be standing behind USA then :P

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

Watcher

"investments"

And yet your country is stilll the poorest and least developed in Europe compared to many others

LOL XD

You still will never get Kosovo back no matter how many decades pass by :)

sj

pre 6 godina

I think Dacic is guilding the proverbial lily here talking up the so-called difficulty. It just shows you how far the US of Piss and Wind has fallen. It could not manage to get Kosovo into UNESCO LOL.

As far as Brian Yee is concerned, well that is another US incompetent, much like Victoria Newland, trying to improve his career prospects by attempting to make himself look important. You only had to pay attention to Kyle Scott during that meeting with Yee and Vucic. You can see in Scott’s eyes that he was in pain with over Yee’s antics. In fact it was close to agony.

Now we have the US simpleton Yee backing down by declaring that he was not making a threat just an observation. If I was Tillerson I would call him into my office and hand him a mop to clean the State Department’s restrooms.

Yee is not the only inept individual working at the State Department, there are legions of them and that is why the Piss and Wind is folding across the world like a cheap suit.

SAs far as Ukraine is concerned I also think Dacic is over selling it too. If the EU cannot make Serbia recognise Kosovo, then what chances does Brussels have in getting Serbia to distance itself from Russia? None and Buckley’s.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Watcher, 9 November 2017 16:28)

Well mr A**hole watcher Surinam never recognized Kosova, so revoked never happened, and it’s not such a thing.
UNESCO or not Kosova it’s 100 times better now then it used to be and we are 100 times happier with our corrupt government as long as they’re not serbs. Kosova It’s free independent country, you are the loser in this case and who’s a** herds the most mine or yours ?

Staff

pre 6 godina

You still will never get Kosovo back no matter how many decades pass by :)
(Golden Eagle, 9 November 2017 18:37)

There are so may Albanian keyboard warriors here that does not know diddley. Ask your ”diplomats” and you will hear how dark the future is for Kosovo as a state. Kosovo is as long away it has ever been from being a state. Its not me who says it, its diplomats and western politicians.
Without your knowledge, there are about 9-10 countries that will revoke their recognitions. Just wait and see. While your leaders piss on you, and you are sitting on cafes drinking macciato, Serbia is working, and they are successful so far.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Speaking for TV Pink, Dacic said this concerns those countries to whom "(Yugoslav president) Tito still means something," and who have "great positive memories from past relations with Yugoslavia." Poor Dadic now has to represent and explain Serbia in all her wicked shameful criminal nakedness. Cant even hide behind Yugoslavia anymore. He must cry him self to sleep every night. Then have sweet dreams of Yugo. Him throwing flowers from his red basket as all the worker peasants are marshaled and applauding him. As Tito looks up from hell at him. Then he is rudely awakend by the phone again Serbiana on the line. Constipated as usual and bitching again why no one likes her.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Now let's see which countries have issues with Kosovo; Macedonia? Yes; naturally Serbia, Greece? Yes, Montenegro? Yes. Have I missed anyone out?
(sj, 10 November 2017 21:47)

Yes, you missed Albania no issue at all.

Macedonia has no issue with Kosovo they have accepted it, Same with Montenegro ( i know you will bring oh its Djukanovic, not the people blah bla).

"OK, Rene let me point it out to you. The US made big promises to the Kurds if they provided assistance and did not take up arms against the US and one was independence, Noes see if it gets through your skull; the US made promises to the Kurds if they helped they would get independence."

I Honestly do not understand what RENE let me point out means Nor Noes see if it get through your skull - means.

1. The USA has already given Albanians independence.
2. You are comparing Apples and oranges, Kurdistan was never recognized, nor anyone promised more than to be looked at a later time.
3. Macedonia, Montenegro, Albania all have recognized Kosovo. Even if Just Albania did that is enough to have access to goods vs. Kurdistan it's not possible. Turkey has the pipeline, Iran is Ran and Syria does what Iran wants.
4. Greece does not border Kosovo ( I know you got lost out there but ok).

Now if you can not get it through your thick skull as the expression goes that you were trying to use above - it's futile.

Also, your language skills are quite poor for an Australian, with bad punctuation and grammar.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@alb amerikan - you still sore about Suriname revoking recognition?
Or there is no economy in "kosova"? Or there is no path forward UNESCO?
Speaking of A**holes, are you butthurt BG is defending it's interest worldwide and attracting investments from all over the world...from the SAME countries that claim to support your "independence" and are not giving you a pot to piss in? Are you still butthurt? It's ok, I would understand if you were, I would be too!

Mildred Green

pre 6 godina

I think Dacic is guilding the proverbial lily here talking up the so-called difficulty.
(sj, 9 November 2017 13:31)


sj,
It is clear, from your use, you don't even know what "gilding the lily" means. Secondly, learn to spell.

sj

pre 6 godina

sj,
You misspelled "miss spell", one word.

No, you have not used "gilding the lily" properly. It still means what it always meant: to try improve what is already beautiful or excellent.
(Mildred Green, 10 November 2017 16:04)

When you are amongst the uneducated Albos why would you bother spelling since most have not learnt how to use grammar let alone spell words. Who am I going to impress? People like you LOL?

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 10 November 2017 13:19)

OK Rene let me point it out to you. The US made big promises to the Kurds if they provided assistance and did not take up arms against the US and one was independence, Noes see if it gets through your skull; the US made promises to the Kurds if they helped they would get independence.

The US has backed out of that deal and left the Kurds high and dry on their own where now they are being chocked economically by Baghdad to either tow the line or troops will come in and wipe all resistance out.

If the US can do that to the Kurds and these people have helped the US much more than Albos then they will do the same to Albos in Kosovo.

Now let's see which countries have issues with Kosovo; Macedonia? Yes; naturally Serbia, Greece? Yes, Montenegro? Yes. Have I missed anyone out?

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@golden eagle - Yes, investments, LOL..read up on the exciting things happening in Srbija...moving forward, that's all that counts.

As far as Kosovo...well, let's see how that one plays out, shall we? ;))

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

Serbia is working, and they are successful so far.
(Staff, 9 November 2017 22:10)


If Serbia was so successful, they wouldn't be begging to join the EU. They see the EU as their salvation and in the end will recognize Kosova in order to become a member. Serbia would throw Russia under the bus in a second if the EU would grant them membership. However, it is not that simple, EU bureaucrats have been offering the Serbs possible dates of admission, only to delay these dates each time the Serbs started to salivate. It should be obvious to the Serbs that the EU is jerking them around and has no intention of granting membership until they recognize Kosova and turn their back on Russia.

Mildred Green

pre 6 godina

sj,
It is clear, from your use, you don't even know what "gilding the lily" means. Secondly, learn to spell.
(Mildred Green, 9 November 2017 22:22)

Yes I did miss spell the word gilding, but modern interpretation and usage means to embellish beyond its actual state. So I have used it properly.
(sj, 10 November 2017 12:14)


sj,
You misspelled "miss spell", one word.

No, you have not used "gilding the lily" properly. It still means what it always meant: to try improve what is already beautiful or excellent.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Attention ignorant Saso

What I said was Sj’s English writing skills improved but his nonsense was still nonsense...

Typical Serb “logic”.....nonsense!

Sasa from Near Jagodina City

pre 6 godina

Sj your English is so improving but you still don’t make much sense...
(Azir, 10 November 2017 17:30)

You mean to write " your English is improving tremendous "!
But your English is not improving,
AZIR 😀))

Justhetruth

pre 6 godina

You are just a Sad story and everytime you talk you don't make no sense , by the way how many people read it or know about his resume!?.. try and read it in Wikipedia..

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

"Hear how dark the future is"

Sorry staff maybe in your fantasy world but reality is things are getting darker for your kind who is shrinking and is about to vanish soon. "serbia is doing fine" Yeah Yugoslavia is dead and you are a poor landlocked country that is not even close to what yugoslavia used to be. You can fool yourself but not others. Watch as decades pass and how albanians will outnumber you in the near future.........

icj1

pre 6 godina

read up on the exciting things happening in Srbija...moving forward, that's all that counts.
(Watcher, 9 November 2017 21:55)

Absolutely, and Kosovo, like the rest of the region, is happy that Srbija is finally moving forward. Few people, if any, would want a failed Srbija state as a neighbour.
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As far as Kosovo...well, let's see how that one plays out, shall we? ;))
(Watcher, 9 November 2017 21:55)

You definitively shall, dear, if you so wish :)

sj

pre 6 godina

f Serbia was so successful, they wouldn't be begging to join the EU. They see the EU as their salvation and in the end will recognize Kosova in order to become a member. Serbia would throw Russia under the bus in a second if the EU would grant them membership. However, it is not that simple, EU bureaucrats have been offering the Serbs possible dates of admission, only to delay these dates each time the Serbs started to salivate. It should be obvious to the Serbs that the EU is jerking them around and has no intention of granting membership until they recognize Kosova and turn their back on Russia.
(The Count of Kosova, 10 November 2017 03:00)

You must be very desperate to write this rubbish LOL. It's Russia that has saved Serbia on many occasions so now you think Serbs would sell out Russia loL, You have to remember we are not Albanians or Croats.

By the way since Brussels is playing games with Serbia have they even given a date when either Kosova or Albania will start accession talks LOL????? I believe when pigs start flying.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

The US promised the Kurds independents if they helped it out, but look at them now. Baghdad is crushing them economically and the US of Piss and Wind can do nothing.
(sj, 10 November 2017 12:16)

You are comparing Kurdistan with Kosovo?

1. Kurdistan has a big issue with all its neighbors and Iraq who do not want to give it independence due to Kurds in those countries.

2. Geography dictates that Kurdish people are patient even though they truly deserve their own nation.

3. What should USA do bomb Turkey, or fragile Iraq, or go to war with Iran?

Serbia/ Kosovo case - All neighbors bordering Kosovo have accepted it as independent except Serbia.

Goods can move freely so can people, from Kosovo vs Kurdistan won't be able too.

Kurdish people will get their wish in due time, however, your comparison to Kosovo is not correct.

Serbia does not want Kosovo back they want the north of Kosovo back, they do not want to change constitution nor plan to have Albanians as a large minority in a country who is about to join EU where they can not bully them like in the past.

Hence in Serbia there is internal dialogue to have some sugar coat to the pill they will have to swallow in due time. Much easier to integrate 40k Serbs in Kosovo than Albanians in Serbia.

If Serbia was serious about integrating Kosovo they would be working in the new constitution with Kosovo Albanians having same right Serbs have in Kosovo, would Serbia do that?

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 9 November 2017 18:25)

Why is it when you guys don’t get something your after then it means nothing.

Why is it also when you can’t come up with a valid argument you start comparing the Serbian economy with the US and talking about GDP’s???? Not one middle eastern refugee has asked for asylum in Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Romania or Hungary let alone Serbia or Macedonia so since Slovenia has such a strong economy why don’t they ask to be resettled there???? Give it some thought.

The US promised the Kurds independents if they helped it out, but look at them now. Baghdad is crushing them economically and the US of Piss and Wind can do nothing. The US has sold out the Kurds and they will sell out the Albanians in Kosovo LOL.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 10 November 2017 22:41)

Well Rene’, I am aghast that my language and grammatical skills do not meet Albo standards, but who am I to impress here? Albos? Most can barely write.
Macedonia, Montenegro and Greece have issues with Albos. Macedonia recently gave lengthy sentences to several of your Albos from Kosovo for a terrorist attack on a police station back in 2015?
The Kurds not only sided with the US during the Iraq war they even went to war for the US and these people gave much more than your Albanians in Kosovo. In the end the US sold them out, and that is exactly what is going to occur to Albos in Kosovo. It’s how the US works. The US has no loyalty.
What has the US invested for the benefit of people in Kosovo? nothing; has it brought any industry? No; are there any US corporations there? No; have they announced any plans for Kosovo? No, so what’s there to protect? Nothing.

If Kosovo is independent people like you would not be on this site arguing its case, it would not have the EU controlling Kosovo, and it would not have a foreign army there, plus why chase Serbia for recognition?

You need Serbia to recognise Kosovo and Belgrade will never do that so Kosovo is stuck in the twilight zone.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Kosovo is as long away it has ever been from being a state. Its not me who says it, its diplomats and western politicians.
(Staff, 9 November 2017 22:10)

Ok, but Kosovo is not as long away from being a state as it was when Serbia controlled Kosovo. So, what's your point?!

sj

pre 6 godina

sj,
It is clear, from your use, you don't even know what "gilding the lily" means. Secondly, learn to spell.
(Mildred Green, 9 November 2017 22:22)

Yes I did miss spell the word gilding, but modern interpretation and usage means to embellish beyond its actual state. So I have used it properly.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Yes because that big a**HOLE is you, little Sloba. By the way is he talking about the same Tito (half Croatian and half Slovenian), and same Yugoslavia his boss and himself destroyed? Funny how he say nothing about his boss big Sloba?

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Alo Alo
If Serbia was serious about integrating territories from 1918. internationally recognised for a huge reasons for the humanity they would joined NATO, they will have lots of kids, put in place far better economical standard then the Wesern countries have, they will have casinos who gives away at least $3 every single day to their members who show up out there.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

If Kosovo is independent people like you would not be on this site arguing its case, it would not have the EU controlling Kosovo, and it would not have a foreign army there, plus why chase Serbia for recognition?

You need Serbia to recognise Kosovo and Belgrade will never do that so Kosovo is stuck in the twilight zone.
(sj, 13 November 2017 08:43)

I do not need anything, this is a forum to share opinions and we are just conversing here, in the end, it will happen what will happen.

Why it bothers you if someone supporting Albanian side comes to this forum but at the same time are so high stung to have Albanians live with Serbs in Serbia?

Must Albanians be obedient and share no opinion, have no rights and just be 2nd class in Serbian apartheid state of the 1990s.

Old saying goes when you can not argue: raise the voice or insult, I am sure you wish to raise the voice but no one can hear you so hence trying to be a keyboard Serbian patriot living in Australia not Serbia.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 13 November 2017 13:34)

If I am keyboard Serbian patriot living in Australia why don’t you live in Kosovo?

Again, I ask, what has the US invested for the benefit of people in Kosovo? has it brought any industry? are there any US corporations there? have they announced any plans for Kosovo?

If Kosovo is independent it would not have the EU running Kosovo; it would not have a foreign army there, and most important it would not seek Serbian recognition.

It’s very hard for you to accept that if the US can screw the Kurds after making them promises, and the Kurds have given a lot more than the Albanians then doing the same with Albanians in Kosovo is not a problem. It’s how the US operates.

sj

pre 6 godina

I think Dacic is guilding the proverbial lily here talking up the so-called difficulty. It just shows you how far the US of Piss and Wind has fallen. It could not manage to get Kosovo into UNESCO LOL.

As far as Brian Yee is concerned, well that is another US incompetent, much like Victoria Newland, trying to improve his career prospects by attempting to make himself look important. You only had to pay attention to Kyle Scott during that meeting with Yee and Vucic. You can see in Scott’s eyes that he was in pain with over Yee’s antics. In fact it was close to agony.

Now we have the US simpleton Yee backing down by declaring that he was not making a threat just an observation. If I was Tillerson I would call him into my office and hand him a mop to clean the State Department’s restrooms.

Yee is not the only inept individual working at the State Department, there are legions of them and that is why the Piss and Wind is folding across the world like a cheap suit.

SAs far as Ukraine is concerned I also think Dacic is over selling it too. If the EU cannot make Serbia recognise Kosovo, then what chances does Brussels have in getting Serbia to distance itself from Russia? None and Buckley’s.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

That is a word missing in the title of this article .
We have a “big ASS hole” in our FM Ministry
That’s what’s missing (ASS)
309 terrorists fighting dirty fights in Ukraine, and you still wander?

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@alb amerikan - you still sore about Suriname revoking recognition?
Or there is no economy in "kosova"? Or there is no path forward UNESCO?
Speaking of A**holes, are you butthurt BG is defending it's interest worldwide and attracting investments from all over the world...from the SAME countries that claim to support your "independence" and are not giving you a pot to piss in? Are you still butthurt? It's ok, I would understand if you were, I would be too!

sj

pre 6 godina

sj,
You misspelled "miss spell", one word.

No, you have not used "gilding the lily" properly. It still means what it always meant: to try improve what is already beautiful or excellent.
(Mildred Green, 10 November 2017 16:04)

When you are amongst the uneducated Albos why would you bother spelling since most have not learnt how to use grammar let alone spell words. Who am I going to impress? People like you LOL?

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@golden eagle - Yes, investments, LOL..read up on the exciting things happening in Srbija...moving forward, that's all that counts.

As far as Kosovo...well, let's see how that one plays out, shall we? ;))

Sasa from Near Jagodina City

pre 6 godina

Sj your English is so improving but you still don’t make much sense...
(Azir, 10 November 2017 17:30)

You mean to write " your English is improving tremendous "!
But your English is not improving,
AZIR 😀))

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 10 November 2017 13:19)

OK Rene let me point it out to you. The US made big promises to the Kurds if they provided assistance and did not take up arms against the US and one was independence, Noes see if it gets through your skull; the US made promises to the Kurds if they helped they would get independence.

The US has backed out of that deal and left the Kurds high and dry on their own where now they are being chocked economically by Baghdad to either tow the line or troops will come in and wipe all resistance out.

If the US can do that to the Kurds and these people have helped the US much more than Albos then they will do the same to Albos in Kosovo.

Now let's see which countries have issues with Kosovo; Macedonia? Yes; naturally Serbia, Greece? Yes, Montenegro? Yes. Have I missed anyone out?

Staff

pre 6 godina

You still will never get Kosovo back no matter how many decades pass by :)
(Golden Eagle, 9 November 2017 18:37)

There are so may Albanian keyboard warriors here that does not know diddley. Ask your ”diplomats” and you will hear how dark the future is for Kosovo as a state. Kosovo is as long away it has ever been from being a state. Its not me who says it, its diplomats and western politicians.
Without your knowledge, there are about 9-10 countries that will revoke their recognitions. Just wait and see. While your leaders piss on you, and you are sitting on cafes drinking macciato, Serbia is working, and they are successful so far.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Attention ignorant Saso

What I said was Sj’s English writing skills improved but his nonsense was still nonsense...

Typical Serb “logic”.....nonsense!

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Now let's see which countries have issues with Kosovo; Macedonia? Yes; naturally Serbia, Greece? Yes, Montenegro? Yes. Have I missed anyone out?
(sj, 10 November 2017 21:47)

Yes, you missed Albania no issue at all.

Macedonia has no issue with Kosovo they have accepted it, Same with Montenegro ( i know you will bring oh its Djukanovic, not the people blah bla).

"OK, Rene let me point it out to you. The US made big promises to the Kurds if they provided assistance and did not take up arms against the US and one was independence, Noes see if it gets through your skull; the US made promises to the Kurds if they helped they would get independence."

I Honestly do not understand what RENE let me point out means Nor Noes see if it get through your skull - means.

1. The USA has already given Albanians independence.
2. You are comparing Apples and oranges, Kurdistan was never recognized, nor anyone promised more than to be looked at a later time.
3. Macedonia, Montenegro, Albania all have recognized Kosovo. Even if Just Albania did that is enough to have access to goods vs. Kurdistan it's not possible. Turkey has the pipeline, Iran is Ran and Syria does what Iran wants.
4. Greece does not border Kosovo ( I know you got lost out there but ok).

Now if you can not get it through your thick skull as the expression goes that you were trying to use above - it's futile.

Also, your language skills are quite poor for an Australian, with bad punctuation and grammar.

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

Watcher

"investments"

And yet your country is stilll the poorest and least developed in Europe compared to many others

LOL XD

You still will never get Kosovo back no matter how many decades pass by :)

sj

pre 6 godina

f Serbia was so successful, they wouldn't be begging to join the EU. They see the EU as their salvation and in the end will recognize Kosova in order to become a member. Serbia would throw Russia under the bus in a second if the EU would grant them membership. However, it is not that simple, EU bureaucrats have been offering the Serbs possible dates of admission, only to delay these dates each time the Serbs started to salivate. It should be obvious to the Serbs that the EU is jerking them around and has no intention of granting membership until they recognize Kosova and turn their back on Russia.
(The Count of Kosova, 10 November 2017 03:00)

You must be very desperate to write this rubbish LOL. It's Russia that has saved Serbia on many occasions so now you think Serbs would sell out Russia loL, You have to remember we are not Albanians or Croats.

By the way since Brussels is playing games with Serbia have they even given a date when either Kosova or Albania will start accession talks LOL????? I believe when pigs start flying.

sj

pre 6 godina

sj,
It is clear, from your use, you don't even know what "gilding the lily" means. Secondly, learn to spell.
(Mildred Green, 9 November 2017 22:22)

Yes I did miss spell the word gilding, but modern interpretation and usage means to embellish beyond its actual state. So I have used it properly.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 9 November 2017 18:25)

Why is it when you guys don’t get something your after then it means nothing.

Why is it also when you can’t come up with a valid argument you start comparing the Serbian economy with the US and talking about GDP’s???? Not one middle eastern refugee has asked for asylum in Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Romania or Hungary let alone Serbia or Macedonia so since Slovenia has such a strong economy why don’t they ask to be resettled there???? Give it some thought.

The US promised the Kurds independents if they helped it out, but look at them now. Baghdad is crushing them economically and the US of Piss and Wind can do nothing. The US has sold out the Kurds and they will sell out the Albanians in Kosovo LOL.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

The US promised the Kurds independents if they helped it out, but look at them now. Baghdad is crushing them economically and the US of Piss and Wind can do nothing.
(sj, 10 November 2017 12:16)

You are comparing Kurdistan with Kosovo?

1. Kurdistan has a big issue with all its neighbors and Iraq who do not want to give it independence due to Kurds in those countries.

2. Geography dictates that Kurdish people are patient even though they truly deserve their own nation.

3. What should USA do bomb Turkey, or fragile Iraq, or go to war with Iran?

Serbia/ Kosovo case - All neighbors bordering Kosovo have accepted it as independent except Serbia.

Goods can move freely so can people, from Kosovo vs Kurdistan won't be able too.

Kurdish people will get their wish in due time, however, your comparison to Kosovo is not correct.

Serbia does not want Kosovo back they want the north of Kosovo back, they do not want to change constitution nor plan to have Albanians as a large minority in a country who is about to join EU where they can not bully them like in the past.

Hence in Serbia there is internal dialogue to have some sugar coat to the pill they will have to swallow in due time. Much easier to integrate 40k Serbs in Kosovo than Albanians in Serbia.

If Serbia was serious about integrating Kosovo they would be working in the new constitution with Kosovo Albanians having same right Serbs have in Kosovo, would Serbia do that?

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Alo Alo
If Serbia was serious about integrating territories from 1918. internationally recognised for a huge reasons for the humanity they would joined NATO, they will have lots of kids, put in place far better economical standard then the Wesern countries have, they will have casinos who gives away at least $3 every single day to their members who show up out there.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Watcher, 9 November 2017 16:28)

Well mr A**hole watcher Surinam never recognized Kosova, so revoked never happened, and it’s not such a thing.
UNESCO or not Kosova it’s 100 times better now then it used to be and we are 100 times happier with our corrupt government as long as they’re not serbs. Kosova It’s free independent country, you are the loser in this case and who’s a** herds the most mine or yours ?

icj1

pre 6 godina

Kosovo is as long away it has ever been from being a state. Its not me who says it, its diplomats and western politicians.
(Staff, 9 November 2017 22:10)

Ok, but Kosovo is not as long away from being a state as it was when Serbia controlled Kosovo. So, what's your point?!

Mildred Green

pre 6 godina

sj,
It is clear, from your use, you don't even know what "gilding the lily" means. Secondly, learn to spell.
(Mildred Green, 9 November 2017 22:22)

Yes I did miss spell the word gilding, but modern interpretation and usage means to embellish beyond its actual state. So I have used it properly.
(sj, 10 November 2017 12:14)


sj,
You misspelled "miss spell", one word.

No, you have not used "gilding the lily" properly. It still means what it always meant: to try improve what is already beautiful or excellent.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Only pseudo politicians care about UNESCO what is Unesco, even if Kosovo joins it won't make it more independent than it is today or if it does not join it's not anything special.

So US and Israel left UNESCO what does this mean nada. Same goes for Kosovo politicians joining means nothing.

As for Dacic saying something about beating USA is funny, the man coming from a place with 5.5B GDP which smaller than 1000s publicly traded companies in the USA.

Serbia counts wins vs smaller countries, even Slovenia has a higher GDP 43B$.

SJ as for USA piss in wind it is super funny I have to admit it, you must be standing behind USA then :P

Justhetruth

pre 6 godina

You are just a Sad story and everytime you talk you don't make no sense , by the way how many people read it or know about his resume!?.. try and read it in Wikipedia..

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

Serbia is working, and they are successful so far.
(Staff, 9 November 2017 22:10)


If Serbia was so successful, they wouldn't be begging to join the EU. They see the EU as their salvation and in the end will recognize Kosova in order to become a member. Serbia would throw Russia under the bus in a second if the EU would grant them membership. However, it is not that simple, EU bureaucrats have been offering the Serbs possible dates of admission, only to delay these dates each time the Serbs started to salivate. It should be obvious to the Serbs that the EU is jerking them around and has no intention of granting membership until they recognize Kosova and turn their back on Russia.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 10 November 2017 22:41)

Well Rene’, I am aghast that my language and grammatical skills do not meet Albo standards, but who am I to impress here? Albos? Most can barely write.
Macedonia, Montenegro and Greece have issues with Albos. Macedonia recently gave lengthy sentences to several of your Albos from Kosovo for a terrorist attack on a police station back in 2015?
The Kurds not only sided with the US during the Iraq war they even went to war for the US and these people gave much more than your Albanians in Kosovo. In the end the US sold them out, and that is exactly what is going to occur to Albos in Kosovo. It’s how the US works. The US has no loyalty.
What has the US invested for the benefit of people in Kosovo? nothing; has it brought any industry? No; are there any US corporations there? No; have they announced any plans for Kosovo? No, so what’s there to protect? Nothing.

If Kosovo is independent people like you would not be on this site arguing its case, it would not have the EU controlling Kosovo, and it would not have a foreign army there, plus why chase Serbia for recognition?

You need Serbia to recognise Kosovo and Belgrade will never do that so Kosovo is stuck in the twilight zone.

Mildred Green

pre 6 godina

I think Dacic is guilding the proverbial lily here talking up the so-called difficulty.
(sj, 9 November 2017 13:31)


sj,
It is clear, from your use, you don't even know what "gilding the lily" means. Secondly, learn to spell.

icj1

pre 6 godina

read up on the exciting things happening in Srbija...moving forward, that's all that counts.
(Watcher, 9 November 2017 21:55)

Absolutely, and Kosovo, like the rest of the region, is happy that Srbija is finally moving forward. Few people, if any, would want a failed Srbija state as a neighbour.
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As far as Kosovo...well, let's see how that one plays out, shall we? ;))
(Watcher, 9 November 2017 21:55)

You definitively shall, dear, if you so wish :)

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

"Hear how dark the future is"

Sorry staff maybe in your fantasy world but reality is things are getting darker for your kind who is shrinking and is about to vanish soon. "serbia is doing fine" Yeah Yugoslavia is dead and you are a poor landlocked country that is not even close to what yugoslavia used to be. You can fool yourself but not others. Watch as decades pass and how albanians will outnumber you in the near future.........

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Speaking for TV Pink, Dacic said this concerns those countries to whom "(Yugoslav president) Tito still means something," and who have "great positive memories from past relations with Yugoslavia." Poor Dadic now has to represent and explain Serbia in all her wicked shameful criminal nakedness. Cant even hide behind Yugoslavia anymore. He must cry him self to sleep every night. Then have sweet dreams of Yugo. Him throwing flowers from his red basket as all the worker peasants are marshaled and applauding him. As Tito looks up from hell at him. Then he is rudely awakend by the phone again Serbiana on the line. Constipated as usual and bitching again why no one likes her.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Yes because that big a**HOLE is you, little Sloba. By the way is he talking about the same Tito (half Croatian and half Slovenian), and same Yugoslavia his boss and himself destroyed? Funny how he say nothing about his boss big Sloba?

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

If Kosovo is independent people like you would not be on this site arguing its case, it would not have the EU controlling Kosovo, and it would not have a foreign army there, plus why chase Serbia for recognition?

You need Serbia to recognise Kosovo and Belgrade will never do that so Kosovo is stuck in the twilight zone.
(sj, 13 November 2017 08:43)

I do not need anything, this is a forum to share opinions and we are just conversing here, in the end, it will happen what will happen.

Why it bothers you if someone supporting Albanian side comes to this forum but at the same time are so high stung to have Albanians live with Serbs in Serbia?

Must Albanians be obedient and share no opinion, have no rights and just be 2nd class in Serbian apartheid state of the 1990s.

Old saying goes when you can not argue: raise the voice or insult, I am sure you wish to raise the voice but no one can hear you so hence trying to be a keyboard Serbian patriot living in Australia not Serbia.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Alo Alo, 13 November 2017 13:34)

If I am keyboard Serbian patriot living in Australia why don’t you live in Kosovo?

Again, I ask, what has the US invested for the benefit of people in Kosovo? has it brought any industry? are there any US corporations there? have they announced any plans for Kosovo?

If Kosovo is independent it would not have the EU running Kosovo; it would not have a foreign army there, and most important it would not seek Serbian recognition.

It’s very hard for you to accept that if the US can screw the Kurds after making them promises, and the Kurds have given a lot more than the Albanians then doing the same with Albanians in Kosovo is not a problem. It’s how the US operates.