Did Suriname's Kosovo decision go via Moscow?

Once a nation recognize another one can't revoke it.
(Joni, 2 November 2017 10:29)

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South Vietnam, an illegitimate criminal enterprise on the territory of Vietnam and transiently controlled for approximately 30 years by the USA was also “recognized” by more than 80 other countries (but not the UN).

I do believe that all countries have, by today, “revoked, annulled, rescinded, reversed, undone, repealed, retracted, withdrawn, quashed, overturned, canceled, invalidated, or nullified” the recognition of USA’s criminal puppets in S. Vietnam.

Can you tell us wise Joni, which country today still “recognizes” South Vietnam?

kosovo needs to focus only on USA , GB , Germany and France they decide who is a country or not this is a fact do some research.

Not Russia or China are the Empires of this world it is only the USA
(dan, 2 November 2017 11:07)

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Thank you Dan for highlighting precedents based on your research with other countries. Notably, the USA, UK, W. Germany and France all recognized South Vietnam. You are correct that Russia (Soviet Union) and China did not.

Can you please tell us where South Vietnam is now, so that we all understand the status of “Kosovo*”?

Who cares. Don't forget that the majority of recognitions resulted from pressure from the Clintons and their cronies.

If you would win this war Kosovo would be Serbia again.
(dan, 2 November 2017 12:09)

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According to the UN and UNSCR 1244 KiM is an integral part of Serbia, just as South Vietnam was always an integral part of Vietnam. So you may wish to consult with your “empire” about the real status of your fenced-in ghetto. You can’t get even get visa-free access to the countries you claim “support” you and your nationalistic criminals.
The indigenous population isn’t going anywhere and the foreigner occupiers that divided us (and blatantly discriminate against you) will eventually leave. No need for any war as the fences around your ghetto will eventually crumble.

i give you serbs an example ISRAEL is not recognized by some 90 countrys worldwide even their passports they donot recognize.

So acording to your serb logic ISRAEL is not a country? LOL

why is ISRAEL a country? very simple question they are recognized by the USA Empire and have very good relations and because the US fully back ISRAEL PALESTINE is not a country because the USA Empire donot recognize fake PALESTINE

kosovo needs to focus only on USA , GB , Germany and France they decide who is a country or not this is a fact do some research.

Not Russia or China are the Empires of this world it is only the USA
(dan, 2 November

Sorry Dan,
Israel is a country in U.N.
I proclaim my farm land has a country with my country flag .BUT,I do not have a seat as a country in U.N.) )))
No seat in U.N.,
No country then )))

i explained to you everything which you cant deny continue and speculate what will happen in 50 yeats (sic)
(dan, 2 November 2017 15:20)

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I don't deny that according to the UN and UNSCR 1244 KiM is an integral part of Serbia today.
I don't deny that parts of KiM, today, are a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto.
I don't deny that, today, residents of KiM without Serbian travel documents are discriminated against by the countries of your so called "empire".

I am so pleased Dan that neither of us deny today's reality.

Thank you Dan for highlighting precedents based on your research with other countries. Notably, the USA, UK, W. Germany and France all recognized South Vietnam. You are correct that Russia (Soviet Union) and China did not.

Can you please tell us where South Vietnam is now, so that we all understand the status of “Kosovo*”?

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very simple question you cannot compare South Vietnam with Kosovo the USA lost the war in Vietnam so North and South Vietnam united.If the USA had won the war South Vietnam would still exist today as North and South Korea exist till today because the US won the Korea war.

Kosovo is completely different with the backing of the Empire of this World (USA) Kosovo has won the war in 1999.

Kosovo is defacto independent since 1999 and officially since 2008 and your leaders know this very well but but they cannot admit it. this kosovo discussion in the serb media is only for internal consumtion nothing more.

and yes you can take Kosovo back if you invade Kosovo and fight with American soldiers whith are deployed in Kosovo.Even then you have a problem you need to deal with all Albanians in the Balkans including Albania with is a NATO country.this scenario is very unlikely because you would commit suicide.

If you would win this war Kosovo would be Serbia again.

So seat in UN is what makes you a country?
(Alo Alo, 2 November 2017 15:45)

Yes. That's why Kosovo is trying to get it. South Sudan got a UN seat shortly after its coordinated declaration of independence. Kosovo isn't a country.

Of course Russia!
I told yaaa, Dadic don't know where Surinami is let alone the win of Serbian diplomatic 'fight'.
Why is Russia silent! Vucic??
I tried to be informed about international laws in regard.
Once a nation recognize another one can't revoke it.
1. The governments of on state change ofen so the relationship with other countries. So every time you broke your relationship with a country you must revoke its recognition. And when the government change again - change the policy and decide to recognize it again??
On this logic all Arab countries must revoke their recognition to Israel or vice versa. Right?

Well, if de-recognition is a thing. I think its time to renounce recognition of serbia as an independent state or a state at all.

We all know not to deal with Russian dogs in the balkans, who are nacro-trafficking terrorists and send their worst into the Soveriegn state that is Ukraine.

And amensty, Soouth vietnam was just vietname. Vietnamese people.
We will reunite with albania. We can send those churches and the rest of the serbs via tractors to you.

South Vietnam, an illegitimate criminal enterprise on the territory of Vietnam and transiently controlled for approximately 30 years by the USA was also “recognized” by more than 80 other countries (but not the UN).

I do believe that all countries have, by today, “revoked, annulled, rescinded, reversed, undone, repealed, retracted, withdrawn, quashed, overturned, canceled, invalidated, or nullified” the recognition of USA’s criminal puppets in S. Vietnam.

Can you tell us wise Joni, which country today still “recognizes” South Vietnam?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 11:14)

What about East Germany Am. Y?

No i can’t tell it to you ! Because i have any idea about international laws 30 years ago during a decate of wars in Vietnam after WWII and during the Cold war… So no i have any idea !
South Vietnam was accused for hight war crimes as i tried to read shortly something about it,
Vietnam case was a bit like Germany case. West Germany and East. Not Kosovo case !
We are different people who speak different languages .
Does anybody recognize today East Germany?
Same as Germans they decide to unificate but in Germany it came peacefully while in Vietnam were a lot of wars till then realize that.

So of course nobody recognize it.

Country or Not-country as long as Serbia`s Army and Belgrade administration is out of Kosovo and have no control over Albanians lives and can`t kill anymore
"terrorist" Albanian children that is damn good enough.
And nothing else matters.

i give you serbs an example ISRAEL is not recognized by some 90 countrys worldwide even their passports they donot recognize.

So acording to your serb logic ISRAEL is not a country? LOL

why is ISRAEL a country? very simple question they are recognized by the USA Empire and have very good relations and because the US fully back ISRAEL PALESTINE is not a country because the USA Empire donot recognize fake PALESTINE

kosovo needs to focus only on USA , GB , Germany and France they decide who is a country or not this is a fact do some research.

Not Russia or China are the Empires of this world it is only the USA

@Sasa&Navi the meat heads

Switzerland became a UN member in 2002, therefore prior to that date, SWITZERLAND WAS NOT A COUNTRY,RIGHT???

No seat in U.N.,
No country then )))
(Sasa from Near Jagodina City, 2 November 2017 15:10)

So seat in UN is what makes you a country?

The term "country" is frequently used to refer to sovereign states. There is no universal agreement on the number of "countries" in the world, since a number of states have disputed sovereignty status. There are 206 sovereign states, of which 193 states are members of the United Nations, two states have observer status at the U.N. (the Holy See and Palestine), and 11 other states are neither a member or observer at the U.N. All are defined as states by declarative theory of statehood and constitutive theory of statehood. The latest proclaimed state is South Sudan in 2011.

Once a nation recognize another one can't revoke it.
(Joni, 2 November 2017 10:29)

Can you tell us wise Joni, which country today still “recognizes” South Vietnam?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 11:14)

of course nobody recognize it.
(Joni, 2 November 2017 13:11)

Thank you Joni for disproving your own thesis.

that is precisely what KiM wanted to achieve. I'm glad you finally realised that, too!
(icj1, 2 November 2017 22:52)

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icj1, the CB of B92, recognizes the reality that KiM is more fenced-in from the rest of Europe. Yes, Serbia allows all of its KiM citizens free access to Serbia. The sober reality is that your apartheid fence discriminates against KiM residents without Serbian travel documents who don't have visa-free access to parts of the EU (or Dan's US empire). I thank you and Dan for not denying this reality.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 13:21)

i explained to you everything which you cant deny continue and speculate what will happen in 50 yeats

Sorry Dan,
Israel is a country in U.N.
I proclaim my farm land has a country with my country flag .BUT,I do not have a seat as a country in U.N.) )))
No seat in U.N.,
No country then )))

LOL PALESTINE is also in UN has the same status as the country of Vatikan or Switzerland till 2000 and many more before LOL the problem why Palestine is not a country is because the USA the empire of this world has not recognized a fake Palestine

it's greater that Kosovo is fenced in from Europe
(icj1, 4 November 2017 19:37)

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Of course, apartheid bigots such as icj1, the CB of B92, post narrow minded nationalistic drivel idiotically claiming “greatness” in separation for a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

Has this recognition been 'lobbied' by Paccolli, maybe? Then Russia must have been 'lobbying' better, i.e. handing over a bigger suitcase full of dollar banknotes.

If the only wars are fought on here and not on the battle field then ill be happy for all of us.

So seat in UN is what makes you a country?
(Alo Alo, 2 November 2017 15:45)

Yes.
(Navi, 2 November 2017 15:52)

So, according to your logic, Serbia was not a country before 2000 and there were no countries in the world before 1945 lol

Oh, that's even greater given that, according to...
(icj1, 3 November 2017 13:38)

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icj1, the CB of B92, has now mentally degenerated to a state where they randomly post English words without any logical association or meaning. What's "even"? What's "great" or what's comparably "greater"? Out resident bigot provides no sane reference for any of these comparators and then .... idiotically refers to a "given"?!

icj1 has repetitively convinced us that idiocy, ignorance and intolerance define icj1. In a further effort to define the extreme boundaries of their dementia, icj1 has now resorted to posting total gibberish. Laughable.

Sj is amazing how our media is controled by West . Second link is a picture of our marshall as he always paint on a big table at tv . German president have no power and prime minister listen what our marshall tell to him to do . When first prime minister not listened him but listened the West he was changed . 1900 lei => 425 euro not someting exceptional Greece have 685 and they bark !

https://www.cotidianul.ro/romania-se-comporta-ca-si-cum-s-robotizat-peste-noapte/

Romania behaves as became robotic overnight

The minimum wage will increase to 1,900 lei on January 1, 2018, almost double compared to May 2016, when it stood at 1,050 lei, given that the real productivity of labor has a growth dynamics of 5,5% on year.

The minimum wage does not only destroy Romanian entrepreneurship but also takes on our purchasing power, having to buy from an undeveloped and non-competitive artificial market.

https://radu-tudor.ro/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Ldd.jpg

Yes. That's why Kosovo is trying to get it. South Sudan got a UN seat shortly after its coordinated declaration of independence. Kosovo isn't a country.
(Navi, 2 November 2017 15:52)

So Swiss till 2002 they were not a country?

Serbia lost the war even if it was Nato, so if lets say in 2008 they held a referendum would Serbia accept like Sudan did with South Sudan?

Kosovo has control of all territory and it has one law Law of Kosovo Republic, it has trading partners and is recognized by all neighbours except Serbia.

Kosovo will not be going to Serbia as Srbia has no solution for Kosovo with Albanians in it.

If Serbia in 1991 to 1996 would have created a Constitution similar to the ones Kosovo has today where Albanian is the official language, reserve seats in Parlament and give Kosovo full control of its territory today it would be part of Serbia and both in EU.

That sheep sailed and 18y later this is not possible we are now negotiating how to adjust 40K Serbs from the north in Kosovo as 80K south they are integrated. This is the reality, hence the internal dialogue and new elections.

Serbia would never have 30% of parliament reserved for Albanians and needing 2/3 of their vote for changes to the constitution.

I don't deny that parts of KiM, today, are a dysfunctional fenced-in
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 17:25)

Yes, dear, KiM is fenced in from Serbia because that is precisely what KiM wanted to achieve. I'm glad you finally realised that, too!

South Sudan got a UN seat shortly after its coordinated declaration of independence. Kosovo isn't a country.
(Navi, 2 November 2017 15:52)

As much as you might wish it, Kosovo has no desire to be a South Sudan-like country https://www.rt.com/news/380321-world-largest-humanitarian-crisis/ and I'm sure Serbia too does not wish to be a country like South Sudan where people starve.

South Vietnam, an illegitimate criminal enterprise on the territory of Vietnam and transiently controlled for approximately 30 years by the USA was also “recognized” by more than 80 other countries (but not the UN).
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 11:14)

Well, the UN has never recognised any state or government, so it's not clear what your point is (if you have one)!

I don't deny that parts of KiM, today, are a dysfunctional fenced-in
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 17:25)

Yes, dear, KiM is fenced in from Serbia because that is precisely what KiM wanted to achieve. I'm glad you finally realised that, too!
(icj1, 2 November 2017 22:52)

KiM is more fenced-in from the rest of Europe.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 3 November 2017 00:20)

Oh, that's even greater given that, according to the CE of B92 forums sj, Europe has collapsed lol
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 3 November 2017 13:38)

What's "great" or what's comparably "greater"?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 4 November 2017 01:06)

It's great that Kosovo is fenced in from Serbia and it's greater that Kosovo is fenced in from Europe which, according to the CE of B92 forums sj, has collapsed. Let me know if you have any additional questions you need help with :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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i give you serbs an example ISRAEL is not recognized by some 90 countrys worldwide even their passports they donot recognize.

So acording to your serb logic ISRAEL is not a country? LOL

why is ISRAEL a country? very simple question they are recognized by the USA Empire and have very good relations and because the US fully back ISRAEL PALESTINE is not a country because the USA Empire donot recognize fake PALESTINE

kosovo needs to focus only on USA , GB , Germany and France they decide who is a country or not this is a fact do some research.

Not Russia or China are the Empires of this world it is only the USA

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Well this is not a realistic view. First, the EU and the US are de-industrialized. The Brics on its own has a larger GDP. Second, Suriname's actions are not on it's own important. What is important is the precedence it has set. Third, The US has a foreign dept of 20 Trillion, which is unsustainable(170% of GDP) Serbia has gained tremendously by being neutral and working all sides. Kosovo will collapse the minute the EU and the US have their next crisis. Already the Albanians are emptying Kosovo by drove. What the Serbian government need only to do, is to sit and wait. All will come good. As Kosovo independence was described as the first and not according to International law, so is Surinames action. You site Israel? Well Israel is a member of the UN, which Kosovo is not and more importantly, Israel have not recognized Kosovo. Facts.

I don't deny that parts of KiM, today, are a dysfunctional fenced-in
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 17:25)

Yes, dear, KiM is fenced in from Serbia because that is precisely what KiM wanted to achieve. I'm glad you finally realised that, too!
(icj1, 2 November 2017 22:52)

KiM is more fenced-in from the rest of Europe.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 3 November 2017 00:20)

Oh, that's even greater given that, according to the CE of B92 forums sj, Europe has collapsed lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Serbia too does not wish to be a country like South Sudan where people starve.
(icj1, 2 November 2017 22:48)

Sudan (Su Dan) is a Rus/Srbi word composed of two words meaning the same in the two main languages of the Great Horde.

SU = WATER, RIVER IN TURKIC (NOT TURKISH!)
DON/DAN = WATER, RIVER IN SLAVIC

First, the EU and the US are de-industrialized. The Brics on its own has a larger GDP.
(Bob V, 5 November 2017 05:15)

So your logic is that, because the Brics on its own has a larger GDP than the EU and the US, than the EU and the US are de-industrialized. So, according to your logic, except for the Brics, every other country in the world is de-industrialized because no country in the world has a GDP larger than the Brics!!! lol

Of course Russia!
I told yaaa, Dadic don't know where Surinami is let alone the win of Serbian diplomatic 'fight'.
Why is Russia silent! Vucic??
I tried to be informed about international laws in regard.
Once a nation recognize another one can't revoke it.
1. The governments of on state change ofen so the relationship with other countries. So every time you broke your relationship with a country you must revoke its recognition. And when the government change again - change the policy and decide to recognize it again??
On this logic all Arab countries must revoke their recognition to Israel or vice versa. Right?

i give you serbs an example ISRAEL is not recognized by some 90 countrys worldwide even their passports they donot recognize.

So acording to your serb logic ISRAEL is not a country? LOL

why is ISRAEL a country? very simple question they are recognized by the USA Empire and have very good relations and because the US fully back ISRAEL PALESTINE is not a country because the USA Empire donot recognize fake PALESTINE

kosovo needs to focus only on USA , GB , Germany and France they decide who is a country or not this is a fact do some research.

Not Russia or China are the Empires of this world it is only the USA

If you would win this war Kosovo would be Serbia again.
(dan, 2 November 2017 12:09)

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According to the UN and UNSCR 1244 KiM is an integral part of Serbia, just as South Vietnam was always an integral part of Vietnam. So you may wish to consult with your “empire” about the real status of your fenced-in ghetto. You can’t get even get visa-free access to the countries you claim “support” you and your nationalistic criminals.
The indigenous population isn’t going anywhere and the foreigner occupiers that divided us (and blatantly discriminate against you) will eventually leave. No need for any war as the fences around your ghetto will eventually crumble.

So seat in UN is what makes you a country?
(Alo Alo, 2 November 2017 15:45)

Yes. That's why Kosovo is trying to get it. South Sudan got a UN seat shortly after its coordinated declaration of independence. Kosovo isn't a country.

@Sasa&Navi the meat heads

Switzerland became a UN member in 2002, therefore prior to that date, SWITZERLAND WAS NOT A COUNTRY,RIGHT???

Country or Not-country as long as Serbia`s Army and Belgrade administration is out of Kosovo and have no control over Albanians lives and can`t kill anymore
"terrorist" Albanian children that is damn good enough.
And nothing else matters.

Once a nation recognize another one can't revoke it.
(Joni, 2 November 2017 10:29)

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South Vietnam, an illegitimate criminal enterprise on the territory of Vietnam and transiently controlled for approximately 30 years by the USA was also “recognized” by more than 80 other countries (but not the UN).

I do believe that all countries have, by today, “revoked, annulled, rescinded, reversed, undone, repealed, retracted, withdrawn, quashed, overturned, canceled, invalidated, or nullified” the recognition of USA’s criminal puppets in S. Vietnam.

Can you tell us wise Joni, which country today still “recognizes” South Vietnam?

South Vietnam, an illegitimate criminal enterprise on the territory of Vietnam and transiently controlled for approximately 30 years by the USA was also “recognized” by more than 80 other countries (but not the UN).

I do believe that all countries have, by today, “revoked, annulled, rescinded, reversed, undone, repealed, retracted, withdrawn, quashed, overturned, canceled, invalidated, or nullified” the recognition of USA’s criminal puppets in S. Vietnam.

Can you tell us wise Joni, which country today still “recognizes” South Vietnam?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 11:14)

What about East Germany Am. Y?

No i can’t tell it to you ! Because i have any idea about international laws 30 years ago during a decate of wars in Vietnam after WWII and during the Cold war… So no i have any idea !
South Vietnam was accused for hight war crimes as i tried to read shortly something about it,
Vietnam case was a bit like Germany case. West Germany and East. Not Kosovo case !
We are different people who speak different languages .
Does anybody recognize today East Germany?
Same as Germans they decide to unificate but in Germany it came peacefully while in Vietnam were a lot of wars till then realize that.

So of course nobody recognize it.

i give you serbs an example ISRAEL is not recognized by some 90 countrys worldwide even their passports they donot recognize.

So acording to your serb logic ISRAEL is not a country? LOL

why is ISRAEL a country? very simple question they are recognized by the USA Empire and have very good relations and because the US fully back ISRAEL PALESTINE is not a country because the USA Empire donot recognize fake PALESTINE

kosovo needs to focus only on USA , GB , Germany and France they decide who is a country or not this is a fact do some research.

Not Russia or China are the Empires of this world it is only the USA
(dan, 2 November

Sorry Dan,
Israel is a country in U.N.
I proclaim my farm land has a country with my country flag .BUT,I do not have a seat as a country in U.N.) )))
No seat in U.N.,
No country then )))

Thank you Dan for highlighting precedents based on your research with other countries. Notably, the USA, UK, W. Germany and France all recognized South Vietnam. You are correct that Russia (Soviet Union) and China did not.

Can you please tell us where South Vietnam is now, so that we all understand the status of “Kosovo*”?

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very simple question you cannot compare South Vietnam with Kosovo the USA lost the war in Vietnam so North and South Vietnam united.If the USA had won the war South Vietnam would still exist today as North and South Korea exist till today because the US won the Korea war.

Kosovo is completely different with the backing of the Empire of this World (USA) Kosovo has won the war in 1999.

Kosovo is defacto independent since 1999 and officially since 2008 and your leaders know this very well but but they cannot admit it. this kosovo discussion in the serb media is only for internal consumtion nothing more.

and yes you can take Kosovo back if you invade Kosovo and fight with American soldiers whith are deployed in Kosovo.Even then you have a problem you need to deal with all Albanians in the Balkans including Albania with is a NATO country.this scenario is very unlikely because you would commit suicide.

If you would win this war Kosovo would be Serbia again.

So seat in UN is what makes you a country?
(Alo Alo, 2 November 2017 15:45)

Yes.
(Navi, 2 November 2017 15:52)

So, according to your logic, Serbia was not a country before 2000 and there were no countries in the world before 1945 lol

South Vietnam, an illegitimate criminal enterprise on the territory of Vietnam and transiently controlled for approximately 30 years by the USA was also “recognized” by more than 80 other countries (but not the UN).
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 11:14)

Well, the UN has never recognised any state or government, so it's not clear what your point is (if you have one)!

Who cares. Don't forget that the majority of recognitions resulted from pressure from the Clintons and their cronies.

Well, if de-recognition is a thing. I think its time to renounce recognition of serbia as an independent state or a state at all.

We all know not to deal with Russian dogs in the balkans, who are nacro-trafficking terrorists and send their worst into the Soveriegn state that is Ukraine.

And amensty, Soouth vietnam was just vietname. Vietnamese people.
We will reunite with albania. We can send those churches and the rest of the serbs via tractors to you.

I don't deny that parts of KiM, today, are a dysfunctional fenced-in
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 17:25)

Yes, dear, KiM is fenced in from Serbia because that is precisely what KiM wanted to achieve. I'm glad you finally realised that, too!

kosovo needs to focus only on USA , GB , Germany and France they decide who is a country or not this is a fact do some research.

Not Russia or China are the Empires of this world it is only the USA
(dan, 2 November 2017 11:07)

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Thank you Dan for highlighting precedents based on your research with other countries. Notably, the USA, UK, W. Germany and France all recognized South Vietnam. You are correct that Russia (Soviet Union) and China did not.

Can you please tell us where South Vietnam is now, so that we all understand the status of “Kosovo*”?

(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 13:21)

i explained to you everything which you cant deny continue and speculate what will happen in 50 yeats

No seat in U.N.,
No country then )))
(Sasa from Near Jagodina City, 2 November 2017 15:10)

So seat in UN is what makes you a country?

The term "country" is frequently used to refer to sovereign states. There is no universal agreement on the number of "countries" in the world, since a number of states have disputed sovereignty status. There are 206 sovereign states, of which 193 states are members of the United Nations, two states have observer status at the U.N. (the Holy See and Palestine), and 11 other states are neither a member or observer at the U.N. All are defined as states by declarative theory of statehood and constitutive theory of statehood. The latest proclaimed state is South Sudan in 2011.

South Sudan got a UN seat shortly after its coordinated declaration of independence. Kosovo isn't a country.
(Navi, 2 November 2017 15:52)

As much as you might wish it, Kosovo has no desire to be a South Sudan-like country https://www.rt.com/news/380321-world-largest-humanitarian-crisis/ and I'm sure Serbia too does not wish to be a country like South Sudan where people starve.

Sj is amazing how our media is controled by West . Second link is a picture of our marshall as he always paint on a big table at tv . German president have no power and prime minister listen what our marshall tell to him to do . When first prime minister not listened him but listened the West he was changed . 1900 lei => 425 euro not someting exceptional Greece have 685 and they bark !

https://www.cotidianul.ro/romania-se-comporta-ca-si-cum-s-robotizat-peste-noapte/

Romania behaves as became robotic overnight

The minimum wage will increase to 1,900 lei on January 1, 2018, almost double compared to May 2016, when it stood at 1,050 lei, given that the real productivity of labor has a growth dynamics of 5,5% on year.

The minimum wage does not only destroy Romanian entrepreneurship but also takes on our purchasing power, having to buy from an undeveloped and non-competitive artificial market.

https://radu-tudor.ro/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Ldd.jpg

Sorry Dan,
Israel is a country in U.N.
I proclaim my farm land has a country with my country flag .BUT,I do not have a seat as a country in U.N.) )))
No seat in U.N.,
No country then )))

LOL PALESTINE is also in UN has the same status as the country of Vatikan or Switzerland till 2000 and many more before LOL the problem why Palestine is not a country is because the USA the empire of this world has not recognized a fake Palestine

Yes. That's why Kosovo is trying to get it. South Sudan got a UN seat shortly after its coordinated declaration of independence. Kosovo isn't a country.
(Navi, 2 November 2017 15:52)

So Swiss till 2002 they were not a country?

Serbia lost the war even if it was Nato, so if lets say in 2008 they held a referendum would Serbia accept like Sudan did with South Sudan?

Kosovo has control of all territory and it has one law Law of Kosovo Republic, it has trading partners and is recognized by all neighbours except Serbia.

Kosovo will not be going to Serbia as Srbia has no solution for Kosovo with Albanians in it.

If Serbia in 1991 to 1996 would have created a Constitution similar to the ones Kosovo has today where Albanian is the official language, reserve seats in Parlament and give Kosovo full control of its territory today it would be part of Serbia and both in EU.

That sheep sailed and 18y later this is not possible we are now negotiating how to adjust 40K Serbs from the north in Kosovo as 80K south they are integrated. This is the reality, hence the internal dialogue and new elections.

Serbia would never have 30% of parliament reserved for Albanians and needing 2/3 of their vote for changes to the constitution.

i explained to you everything which you cant deny continue and speculate what will happen in 50 yeats (sic)
(dan, 2 November 2017 15:20)

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I don't deny that according to the UN and UNSCR 1244 KiM is an integral part of Serbia today.
I don't deny that parts of KiM, today, are a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto.
I don't deny that, today, residents of KiM without Serbian travel documents are discriminated against by the countries of your so called "empire".

I am so pleased Dan that neither of us deny today's reality.

I don't deny that parts of KiM, today, are a dysfunctional fenced-in
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 17:25)

Yes, dear, KiM is fenced in from Serbia because that is precisely what KiM wanted to achieve. I'm glad you finally realised that, too!
(icj1, 2 November 2017 22:52)

KiM is more fenced-in from the rest of Europe.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 3 November 2017 00:20)

Oh, that's even greater given that, according to the CE of B92 forums sj, Europe has collapsed lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

that is precisely what KiM wanted to achieve. I'm glad you finally realised that, too!
(icj1, 2 November 2017 22:52)

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icj1, the CB of B92, recognizes the reality that KiM is more fenced-in from the rest of Europe. Yes, Serbia allows all of its KiM citizens free access to Serbia. The sober reality is that your apartheid fence discriminates against KiM residents without Serbian travel documents who don't have visa-free access to parts of the EU (or Dan's US empire). I thank you and Dan for not denying this reality.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

Oh, that's even greater given that, according to...
(icj1, 3 November 2017 13:38)

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icj1, the CB of B92, has now mentally degenerated to a state where they randomly post English words without any logical association or meaning. What's "even"? What's "great" or what's comparably "greater"? Out resident bigot provides no sane reference for any of these comparators and then .... idiotically refers to a "given"?!

icj1 has repetitively convinced us that idiocy, ignorance and intolerance define icj1. In a further effort to define the extreme boundaries of their dementia, icj1 has now resorted to posting total gibberish. Laughable.

Has this recognition been 'lobbied' by Paccolli, maybe? Then Russia must have been 'lobbying' better, i.e. handing over a bigger suitcase full of dollar banknotes.

I don't deny that parts of KiM, today, are a dysfunctional fenced-in
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 17:25)

Yes, dear, KiM is fenced in from Serbia because that is precisely what KiM wanted to achieve. I'm glad you finally realised that, too!
(icj1, 2 November 2017 22:52)

KiM is more fenced-in from the rest of Europe.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 3 November 2017 00:20)

Oh, that's even greater given that, according to the CE of B92 forums sj, Europe has collapsed lol
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 3 November 2017 13:38)

What's "great" or what's comparably "greater"?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 4 November 2017 01:06)

It's great that Kosovo is fenced in from Serbia and it's greater that Kosovo is fenced in from Europe which, according to the CE of B92 forums sj, has collapsed. Let me know if you have any additional questions you need help with :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Serbia too does not wish to be a country like South Sudan where people starve.
(icj1, 2 November 2017 22:48)

Sudan (Su Dan) is a Rus/Srbi word composed of two words meaning the same in the two main languages of the Great Horde.

SU = WATER, RIVER IN TURKIC (NOT TURKISH!)
DON/DAN = WATER, RIVER IN SLAVIC

Once a nation recognize another one can't revoke it.
(Joni, 2 November 2017 10:29)

Can you tell us wise Joni, which country today still “recognizes” South Vietnam?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 2 November 2017 11:14)

of course nobody recognize it.
(Joni, 2 November 2017 13:11)

Thank you Joni for disproving your own thesis.

If the only wars are fought on here and not on the battle field then ill be happy for all of us.

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i give you serbs an example ISRAEL is not recognized by some 90 countrys worldwide even their passports they donot recognize.

So acording to your serb logic ISRAEL is not a country? LOL

why is ISRAEL a country? very simple question they are recognized by the USA Empire and have very good relations and because the US fully back ISRAEL PALESTINE is not a country because the USA Empire donot recognize fake PALESTINE

kosovo needs to focus only on USA , GB , Germany and France they decide who is a country or not this is a fact do some research.

Not Russia or China are the Empires of this world it is only the USA

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Well this is not a realistic view. First, the EU and the US are de-industrialized. The Brics on its own has a larger GDP. Second, Suriname's actions are not on it's own important. What is important is the precedence it has set. Third, The US has a foreign dept of 20 Trillion, which is unsustainable(170% of GDP) Serbia has gained tremendously by being neutral and working all sides. Kosovo will collapse the minute the EU and the US have their next crisis. Already the Albanians are emptying Kosovo by drove. What the Serbian government need only to do, is to sit and wait. All will come good. As Kosovo independence was described as the first and not according to International law, so is Surinames action. You site Israel? Well Israel is a member of the UN, which Kosovo is not and more importantly, Israel have not recognized Kosovo. Facts.

it's greater that Kosovo is fenced in from Europe
(icj1, 4 November 2017 19:37)

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Of course, apartheid bigots such as icj1, the CB of B92, post narrow minded nationalistic drivel idiotically claiming “greatness” in separation for a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

First, the EU and the US are de-industrialized. The Brics on its own has a larger GDP.
(Bob V, 5 November 2017 05:15)

So your logic is that, because the Brics on its own has a larger GDP than the EU and the US, than the EU and the US are de-industrialized. So, according to your logic, except for the Brics, every other country in the world is de-industrialized because no country in the world has a GDP larger than the Brics!!! lol