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Tuesday, 24.10.2017.

14:25

President responded to US official "in very direct way"

Aleksandar Vucic will in the coming days communicate the answers he gave to US State Department official Hoyt Brian Yee's objections, made during their meeting.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

The statistics on cancer are also unreliable, which is partly Serbia's fault as they block any attempts by Kosovo to integrate into international systems and record keeping systems.

I'm not really sure why you care so much about DU in Kosovo, is it just so you can laugh at people there?
(Dwight, 29 October 2017 20:32)
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Right, so Serbia was also responsible for not allowing Iraq access to facilities they needed and that's why number of children suffering Cancer had increased so much.
The only thing responsible high increase in both cases of Cancer sufferers is DU.
If you had your way, Serbia would be blamed for climate change too.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

(sj, 27 October 2017 09:11)
I know you like to think everything is simple but it is not.
DU is suspected of causing high rates of cancer, so are PCBs, so are the shitty medical conditions, poor nutrition, poverty in Kosovo where nobody go to the doctor until it is too late, leading to cancers not being detectable when they are treatable. The statistics on cancer are also unreliable, which is partly Serbia's fault as they block any attempts by Kosovo to integrate into international systems and record keeping systems.


I'm not really sure why you care so much about DU in Kosovo, is it just so you can laugh at people there?

Avni

pre 6 godina

Vučić: Oslobodimo se mitova, laž je da je na Kosovu sve naše http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/regija/83644/vucic-oslobodimo-se-mitova-laz-je-da-je-na-kosovu-sve-nase

icj1

pre 6 godina

NATO membership is no protection for Spain's sovereignty
(Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34)

Of course it is not because there is not any armed attack against Spain's sovereignty. NATO can't protect the sovereignty of its members against imaginary armed attacks that only exist in your head lol
(icj1, 27 October 2017 00:45)

I was worried there because I haven't seen an idiotic comment
(sj, 27 October 2017 09:56)

I'm so happy then that I was able to find for the CE of B92 forums sj an idiotic comment like the one that our dear friend Zoran made :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34
100% sure as I'm sitting here. Before NATO existence there were barely 2 billion people worldwide just because many current NATO members had bloody wars in between each other. Since NATO treaty was signed worldwide population simply exploded to almost 8 billion. But still it is not solution to be over 34 billion people on Earth. Anyway countries, who consider that many territories were stolen from them, make huge mistake by not joining to NATO treaty.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

"You're either with us, or against us." Been their policy for decades...get it!
(Freddy, 27 October 2017 07:01)

Right you boy! But we Russians have a long lasting relations with the West. And each time they launched a war against us (1812, 1853, 1914, 1941) it ended deep in Europe. Serbs today can enjoy our umbrella, our schield and land troops.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 26 October 2017 13:43)

The UN field work was done in 2000 just 12 months after cessation of hostilities and naturally there would be no evidence because it takes anywhere from 10 to 20 years for health problems to appear.

I only quoted it because the UN identified that DU material was dropped in Kosovo. Even then the report recommended further study to see effects on humans and environment. This was never followed up. There has never been a proper study in Kosovo about DU or its effects on the environment or people.

There is no such thing as safe levels of risk from DU as it is a serious health risk material in any quantity because it can enter the human body if not properly handled, the food chain via soils and water aquifers where people draw potable water.

Here is a part of a report made by Deutsche Welle in 2012 about Kosovo.

“NATO's use of depleted uranium in bullets and armor in the Kosovo War is suspected by many to be a reason for high rates of leukemia in the region today. The long-term effects on the environment also remain unclear.”

Note: high rates of leukemia in the region today”

If you still find it difficult to connect the dots from DU to cancers in Kosovo from DU then you are as thick as a brick and no one can help you.

sj

pre 6 godina

Of course it is not because there is not any armed attack against Spain's sovereignty. NATO can't protect the sovereignty of its members against imaginary armed attacks that only exist in your head lol
(icj1, 27 October 2017 00:45)

I was worried there because I haven't seen an idiotic comment from you for a few days and thought you have gone to sleep or a job interview lest you lose unemployment benefits. Phew I'm glad you are still alive and kicking and making these laughable statements. They are highly amusing.

Out of curiosity, do you also see spirits and they tell you to write this stuff or is it voices that talk to you in your head?

Freddy

pre 6 godina

Serbia you're being treated like an redheaded stepchild. Humiliating !You can't have the E,U, and Russia too....the U.S. won't allow close relations. you have to choose...Neutrality don't work with the West. "You're either with us, or against us." Been their policy for decades...get it!

icj1

pre 6 godina

NATO membership is no protection for Spain's sovereignty
(Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34)

Of course it is not because there is not any armed attack against Spain's sovereignty. NATO can't protect the sovereignty of its members against imaginary armed attacks that only exist in your head lol

Lenard

pre 6 godina

(when they needed you to destroy the prospering Yugoslavia) and after the sex is different. Besides both parts of NATO are on their way to disaster ... I see notes of panic in you latest comments. And I am still sure that a couple of terrorists will ruin your tourism. Then we can talk of how long beach you really need.


(rote kapelle, 25 October 2017 22:14) Really rote I think Russia is panicking with very few friends like reject Serbia. Both master of disaster of their own making you two deformed love birds deserve each other. Prospering Ex Yugo LOL. When Serbs kissed communist booty's they made up over 70% of the dead beat commy bureaucracy of Ex Yugo. When they were only 30% of the population. They ran the first Yugo in the ground and after 1945 they ran the second one also. Heck they cant even run them self's Serbia is a daily gong show. As for the Croatia tourism Serbs tried to destroy it and my beautiful Country. We came back stronger and better. Serbs are messing with the wrong people they will lose big time. Even at the height of the war over a million tourist came to Croatia. Panicking not at all just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cds8JMFwofk relax and shoot in the rite direction.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

@Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34
There are around 15000 births per hour vs around 6400 deaths per hour worldwide which looks pretty healthy to me and those numbers would be far worse without western alliance the way it is now.
(sarma, 26 October 2017 16:28)
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Are you sure? Because I think it's far more as the price of fish would be much higher if what you say in true.

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34
There are around 15000 births per hour vs around 6400 deaths per hour worldwide which looks pretty healthy to me and those numbers would be far worse without western alliance the way it is now. History proved it. People just should pay more attention how do they treat other people in order to avoid future casualties.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@SJ

Again,
link 1 says there are low levels of UD detectable in Kosovo
link 2 says that there are increased cancers in Iraq.

Neither of these shows that there are increased levels of cancer in Kosovo.
Neither of these shows that any cancers in Kosovo are caused by UD.

This does not mean that there is not increased cancer or no link/risk from UD but based on the evidence that you provided, I doubt that you could join the dots in a 5 year old's coloring book

sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 26 October 2017 10:06)

As I said, I am amazed that there are so many dumb Albanians around. However, lets leave it at Albanians are protected by a special force field of freedom and democracy while in Iraq they do not have that special protection as they die from cancers and birth defects.

Even the average person can see the connection except for Albanians.

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

I see Rote not commented nothing today

it need to weak up from that Vodka he drank last night

Skanderbeu you are an asshole , you try to be what an Albanian can`t be meaning educated and without hate

Lenard why don`t you move in Germany ?

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Rote it is impressive how similar are Italian and Romanian language at many words the translator show the wrong synonym but i give you example where even the translator is good ! oxen in italian is buoi and in romanian is boi , in Spanish that is suposed to be a sister of Italian is totaly differently , for dog we say caine , italians say cane

Even your Russian book have no explication

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@sj
None of what you claim about Kosovo is proved by the link you provided. You said that there are increased cancer rates in Kosovo and that they are due to depleted uranium and then claimed to have evidence.
You posted a link to a report that makes no mention of any increased cancer rates in Kosovo and also says that the investigators found no evidence of DU levels over permittable levels in Kosovo.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Don't be misled that western alliance is falling apart since here in the West is better than ever even doe can be still far better...
(sarma, 26 October 2017 00:52)
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I am talking about the western alliance, it is falling apart. Turkey has kicked NATO German forces out of the country, the UK is leaving the EU, while EU and NATO membership is no protection for Spain's sovereignty. Turkey, Greece, Slovenia and Bulgaria all see Russia as their protector, not the US. Sorry, doesn't look healthy to me, the west has lost it. It has spread way too much death and destructions, spread and supports terrorism.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

So deplete uranium in Kosovo and resultant cancer rates are all Serbian propaganda; read this report by the UN (that’s if you can read LOL) -[link]
(sj, 26 October 2017 09:40)

I must be a poor reader. Could you let me know which page in the report says that there is higher cancer rates in Kosovo? after that, could you show me the page where it says that these extra cancers are caused by DU.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 26 October 2017 10:06)

I am amazed that there are some many dumb Albanians around that can’t read - absolutely amazed, in fact it borders on outright stupidity. The UN report deals with depleted uranium in Kosovo and establishes that it exists there in very large quantities.

A paragraph sums from the report up the DU issue:

“Corresponding health consequences may, depending upon the dose or intake, include cancer and malfunction of body organs, particularly the kidneys”

By the way not one of those recommendations have been implemented by the west.

Now read the second attachment which gives greater detail of what has happened in Iraq in regard to DU and its effects on people there. Now if you join the dots you will find out that DU leads to cancers.

In fact in Kosovo the big issue in 2015 was Leukemia from areas where DU munitions were dropped by your loving US aircraft.

The reason why no mention has been made about affects of DU in Kosovo? Well do expect Thaci et al to mention it. In fact your Albanian leaders took great pains in covering it up since it was their liberators that did the dropping.

Unless your brain has stopped functioning completely, and I feel that has already happened, or you think that somehow there is a force field of freedom and democracy protecting Albanians against the effects of DU, then my original statement stands on the high cancer rates.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Rake, 25 October 2017 13:02)

So deplete uranium in Kosovo and resultant cancer rates are all Serbian propaganda; read this report by the UN (that’s if you can read LOL) -http://postconflict.unep.ch/publications/uranium.pdf

The read the next attachment on what happens to people who live on or near places with depleted uranium - http://www.mintpressnews.com/depleted-uranium-iraq-wars-legacy-cancer/193338/

The reason why no mention has been made about affects of DU in Kosovo? Well do expect Thaci et al to mention it. In fact your Albanian leaders took great pains in covering it up. But maybe Albanians are protected by a force field of freedom and democracy and good thoughts from the US.

Yes, the US and EU bombed Serbia, but today they are falling over themselves investing in Serbia. Now tell me what businesses have the US opened in Kosova? NOTHING.

The Russians could not help us in 1999, but they are making up for lost time mate. So are the Chinese and Turks. Why not ask Erdogan to open some industry in Kosova???
The US is only good on promises and nothing else.

sj

pre 6 godina

reply: sj, 25 October 2017 10:59
Serbian Orthodox Churches don't attend only Serbs. There are many other nationalities and ethnicities who attend Serbian Orthodox Churhes including Russians.
(anonymous, 26 October 2017 00:04)


Yes you are correct. There are other nationalities and ethnic groups who attend our churches including Russians.

I Was There

pre 6 godina

Listen, you little minded kid, I WAS THERE!

That means I AM AN ETHNIC SERB WITNESS in SRPSKA. I'm part of the history, not the history book reader.

You seem like a disgruntled BIA idiot!

George

pre 6 godina

re: Mark.W, 25 October 2017 02:51 Will president Vucic choose Russia or the West?
Most Serbs living in the West are careless on that matter otherwise people would see thousands comments here. All they care is making money, paying bills and having fun.
Isn't it what life is all about? Anyway Vucic should focus on the extremely high economy and work on change all laws which bother potential business owners and current business owners.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

rote kapelle, 25 October 2017 14:30)

Hahahah when they needed you the most, somebody betrayed them (russians) , next time they going to need you somebody else is going to betrayed them (russians) and that’s how the cookie crumbles . Rote The excuse machine

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Zoran, 25 October 2017 18:07
Don't be misled that western alliance is falling apart since here in the West is better than ever even doe can be still far better. Leave past and policies alone and make lots of money and lots of kids and teach them language.

anonymous

pre 6 godina

reply: sj, 25 October 2017 10:59
Serbian Orthodox Churches don't attend only Serbs. There are many other nationalities and ethnicities who attend Serbian Orthodox Churhes including Russians.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Lenard

Permanent sucking brought to irreversable genetic changes in Croats. You're so blind that fail to see that your value for the West before (when they needed you to destroy the prospering Yugoslavia) and after the sex is different. Besides both parts of NATO are on their way to disaster ... I see notes of panic in you latest comments. And I am still sure that a couple of terrorists will ruin your tourism. Then we can talk of how long beach you really need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kosSq5AhN-s

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Ya Serbia is not sitting on two chairs. It is sitting on a picket fence ouch that must really be painful what a trooper Serbia is. Vucic yes Mr. Lee give me more time. To get the not to bright obstinate irrational not knowing Serbs going the rite way. What are you talking boy we Americans gave you to much time you need a good whooping. Yes Sir should I assume the position, that's more like it.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Just like other brainwashed serbs you still keep living in denial in order to satisfy your lies and propaganda.
(Rake, 25 October 2017 13:02)
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LOL! Not sure who the brainwashed one is but I do know that western media are masters in fake news. Even the US president has admitted as much. Anyway, maybe you should educate yourself. Check -> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/kosovo/11426805/Exodus-from-Kosovo-Why-thousands-have-left-the-Balkans.html http://www.dw.com/en/lack-of-opportunity-leads-to-mass-exodus-from-kosovo/a-18256218

There's little hope investing somewhere that has terrorist and mafia roots.

Dragan

pre 6 godina

I get a real kick out of these westerners who bombed us, spread fake news about us, dehumanized Serbs, called us 'baby killers', tried to steal our land, and expect us to love them and to hate Russia. I have a simple message for these clueless globalist Soros loving dotards - Kosovo is Serbia. Got it?
Serbia is free and independent, that is what makes us different from out bootlicking neighbours. Pick up a history book and educate yourselves. Serbia can make trade deals with anyone, and will do so, but Serbia needs a military alliance with Russia. We have seen NATO's war crimes, and we need a military alliance to protect us against sociopathic monsters like these:
http://zpub.com/un/nato_wanted.jpg

And do you really think we want to deal with this...
http://www.rense.com/general96/It%20is%20not%20Fun%20Watching%20a%20Desperate%20Empire%20America%20Die_html_ma5e04fb.jpg

...instead of this....

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/HKB75J/moscow-russia-27th-jan-2017-russian-foreign-ministry-spokesperson-HKB75J.jpg

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/33196/natalia8.jpeg

Come on, you must be kidding me :)) LOL
Cheers!!

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Jim, The "policy" is simply pandering to the worst elements of society in Serbia - the nationalists who are full of prejudice and have no interest in the country moving forward...
(Kristina, 25 October 2017 16:39)
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My God, some people are so arrogant and ignorant thinking we Serbs should just give up on Kosovo and turn our back on Russia to satisfy the US, who bombed and demonised us for decades, supporting Croatian fascists, Bosnian Islamic fundamentalists and Kosovo Albanian terrorists. Apparently, that's moving forward. LOL!

Without Russia, the NAZIs would have allows Croatian fascists to finish their job of genocide and eradicate all Serbs. Both Russia and China are on the rise while the western alliance is falling apart. No guesses why but those ignoramuses who don't know can just listen to Clinton and blame everyone but themselves. LOL!

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ Mark W - Relax, Mark! We're all sure he's not a dumb guy and he's educated! However, he toes the line of US policy and that's ALL he does. He does NOT think for himself or does he care to...all he knows is POLICY!! And that makes him a "dumbass" or as you would have it..an "educated Dumbass"...just like any mouthpiece of any government...yes, Serbia too!! nothing personal to Mr. Yee himself;)

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

I live in the u.s. and have never heard of this guy. Trump adm is under staffed and when they do hire someone it is usually a person with no knowledge of the position they are put in.
(Lilli, 25 October 2017 15:13)

@ Lilli,
Just because you lack knowledge of his experience does not mean that he lacks knowledge.
Maybe you should do a little research before you post, you will not come off looking like a fool.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/bureau/231274.htm

Kristina

pre 6 godina

Jim, The "policy" is simply pandering to the worst elements of society in Serbia - the nationalists who are full of prejudice and have no interest in the country moving forward. Similar to Trump supporters in America. Russia has supported this viewpoint so of course these people love Russia. These backward people are a large minority in both countries (and Russia) and some politicians need their vote and support, which is easy to get since they are easily manipulated by rhetoric.

whollyC

pre 6 godina

please lets refrain from bring up boris yeltzin as a russian leader.
lets not forget that he was supported and paid by the americans.
lets remember how the us fought hard and paid much to have him win his second term.
http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html
lets remember that it was america that spent money to get a russian official elected, directly interfering with russia's internal electoral process (not just posting a few hundred ads on facebook)
its impossible to consider blasted boris as anything other than an american agent.
if one thinks the orange don is a russian agent, then boris the boozer is can be nothing but an american agent.
with that, one cannot consider any actions taken, or not taken during the yeltzin years as russia-centric, or in russia's interests. the open arrogant connection to american and subsequent american interests was, and will always be visible.
then he was booted, and the american reset happened. no longer did warshington have its agent in moscow, and no longer was russia willing to be pillaged and pushed by america. the bully doesn't like backbone, and thats where we are today.

Lilli

pre 6 godina

I live in the u.s. and have never heard of this guy. Trump adm is under staffed and when they do hire someone it is usually a person with no knowledge of the position they are put in.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Were was Russia when you were bombed? Oh thats right! They did not lift a finger to help you :) (Rake, 25 October 2017 13:02)

Russia was betrayed by Gorby, Yeltsin, Shevardnadze, Yakovlev and other 5-th colomn. Few patriot generals tried to help Serbs but were betryed by Chernomyrdin and others ... Russia became a colony for a while but today we are ready to pay all the bills - just wait for a while.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

the next surprise for West is that from january minimum salary will be 435 euro while even in Russia of Rote is 115 euro

Eu want account balance maximum -3% we don`t care we had -4,1% most big from Eu first 6 months and we have -7% [link]

[link]

"Home » News » Romania posts highest EU government deficit of 4.1 pct of GDP in Q2 "

I AM HERE IN THIS WEBSITE TO FIGHT AGAINST ROTE PROPAGANDA
(adi_bucharest, 25 October 2017 11:23)

One day you back the Shqiptars, then Serbs, then Croats ... You feed us with the statistics we don't need because you are a poor expert. Compare the prices inside Russia and EU to see it. Besides you see no difference between the Russian terminology ПРОЖИТОЧНЫЙ МИНИМУМ = 7000 rubles and the AVERAGE SALARY = 38 000.

Rake

pre 6 godina

sj

"highest cancer rates"

Debunked. No such thing exists. Serbian propaganda are not real news i am afraid. We dont have that kind of problem in Kosovo. You are making things up i am afraid

"what has US done for Kosovo"

They have provided Kosovo with development in all sectors. Both education, healthcare, buisness and security. Just becuase you want to look away doesnt meant that the Us have done nothing. You got your head stuck up far from your behind i am afraid.

Just like other brainwashed serbs you still keep living in denial in order to satisfy your lies and propaganda. Remember the United States bombed you and recongnized Kosovo as an independent state. And they keep supporting and helping Kosovo 19 years later. Were was Russia when you were bombed? Oh thats right! They did not lift a finger to help you :)

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Once again I ask what has the west done for Albanians? Used you and when the time is right you will be treated like the Kurds, aka thrown under a bus.
(sj, 25 October 2017 11:30)

More than enough West has recognized Kosovo and got rid of Serbian police and military, this is more than anyone expected to be honest.

Us Kosovo Albanians were content with being republic in Yugoslavia but when Milosevic went shit crazy we got our own poor country, which is much better than being second class citizen in Serbia.

Serbia never had solution for Kosovo with Albanians in it, if it wanted too it would have offered in 1990s the same constitution Kosovo has today (even if its written by west)

fas

pre 6 godina

Serbia should dump the American fascist regime already. The, too long, period of the Stockholm Syndrome imposed by these genocidal criminals is over.

Russia and Serbia's other traditional ally, China will immediately fill that void and even chase the rancid odor of the Americans away.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Нет ни эллина, ни иудея

Из Библии (Новый Завет). Апостол Павел в Послании к Колоссянам (гл. 3) говорит о нравственном облике истинного христианина, который должен отказаться от «ветхого человека» в себе, то есть от человеческих пороков (гнева, злобы, лжи, злоречия, любостяжания и т. д.) и духовно обновиться (ст. 10-11) — «по образу Создавшего его, где нет ни Еллина, ни Иудея, ни обрезания, ни необрезания, варвара, Скифа, раба, свободного, но все и во всём Христос».

Та же мысль содержится в другом Послании апостола Павла — к Га-латам (гл. 3, ст. 27-28) выражена в иной форме: «Все вы, во Христа крестившиеся, во Христа облеклись. Нет уже Иудея, ни язычника; нет раба, ни свободного; нет мужеского пола, ни женского: ибо все вы одно во Христе Иисусе».

Обычно толкуется в смысле декларирования равенства всех людей между собою. Но в Новом Завете говорится о равенстве только между христианами — они равны в своей вере перед Богом.

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

in this new statistic of Eurostat it show who is the puppet of West and who is not in first 6 months of 2017 we had most big account balance from Eu -4,1% and that was before july and octomber when happened new indexactions in salaries and pensions , we have -4,1 the puppet Bulgaria only -0,7

the next surprise for West is that from january minimum salary will be 435 euro while even in Russia of Rote is 115 euro

Eu want account balance maximum -3% we don`t care we had -4,1% most big from Eu first 6 months and we have -7% http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/8332646/2-24102017-BP-EN.pdf/824ae576-abe0-45ae-ac60-030e6e841157

http://www.business-review.eu/news/romania-posts-highest-eu-government-deficit-of-4-1-pct-of-gdp-in-q2-150691

"Home » News » Romania posts highest EU government deficit of 4.1 pct of GDP in Q2 "

I AM HERE IN THIS WEBSITE TO FIGHT AGAINST ROTE PROPAGANDA

sj

pre 6 godina

(I Was There, 25 October 2017 00:35)

Well the Russians are doing everything for Serbs now. What have the west done for your Albanians since 1999? Nothing. Investment in Kosovo ZERO. Removal of depleted uranium in Kosovo? Never removed. Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe and equals Iraq, which is very bad.

Once again I ask what has the west done for Albanians? Used you and when the time is right you will be treated like the Kurds, aka thrown under a bus.

sj

pre 6 godina

There is Serbian Orthodox Church in Washington DC capital of the United States of America, there is Russian Orthodox Church in Belgrade capital of Serbia and there is no Serbian Orthodox Church in Moscow capital of Russia. So who is more friendly in that situation?
(anonymous, 25 October 2017 05:13)

Why would the Serbian Orthodox Church build a Church in Moscow or elsewhere in Russia for that matter when there are not enough of Serbs living there? If there were large numbers then the Russians would be more than happy to approve of such a structure.

The Russians do have one in Belgrade because after the Russian revolution a large number of Russians came to live in the then Kingdom of Yugoslavia at the invitation of King Alexander which justified the project.

sj

pre 6 godina

It would have been great to be a fly on the wall watching Yee’s artery in his neck pop out. Especially after what Vucic would have told him behind closed doors.

Yee said at the economic summit that Serbia had to recognise Kosovo, break ties with Russia "cannot sit on two chairs if it wants to join the EU."

The Washington hot air balloons know how to pick them, don’t they. Yee lost it and for a diplomat that is not a good sign. Let me say that Serbia will continue on the road to the EU and it will NEVER recognise Kosovo and it will NEVER break ties with Russia and most importantly it will continue to sit on two chairs.

The EU will never broach any of these subjects during the negotiations with Belgrade. The EU has already has different policies from the winy ones since it told the mighty windbags that they are not abandoning the Iran deal so it looks like the US will have sign on again LOL.
I wonder how the South China Sea project is going LOL? Have they taught China any lessons yet ?
Yep it the United States of Piss and Wind.

anonymous

pre 6 godina

There is Serbian Orthodox Church in Washington DC capital of the United States of America, there is Russian Orthodox Church in Belgrade capital of Serbia and there is no Serbian Orthodox Church in Moscow capital of Russia. So who is more friendly in that situation?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 6 godina

The US State Department has transparently characterized themselves, and their explicit attitude toward Europe, through Tori Nuland's fornicating directive. Hoyt Yee continues to uphold this auspicious American diplomatic tradition.

Jim

pre 6 godina

Why would any Serbian leader want anything to do with a backward corrupt kleptocracy like the Russian Government? Maybe they are paid off for such irrational support? I hope the Serbian people don't become as abused as the Russian people or the Ukrainians for that matter.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Dragan,

Is your definition of a brotherly country a country that hasn't bombed you?

Russia is not your brother. They use you. You are their ragdoll. Nothing more than a Russian foreign policy interest.
(skando, 24 October 2017 21:41)
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Is that so? How do you know that?
If Russia is using Serbia like a ragdoll what do you say about the US conduct then? They did bomb us and supported our enemy.
I would rather stick to Russia any day. At least I know that they are not going to kill me.

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

It looks like the time has come for Vucic and Serbia to decide.

Will he choose Russia or the West?

Most Serbs living in the West want him to choose Russia for reasons of pride and are willing to doom the average people in Serbia to another generation of poverty and corruption.

I Was There

pre 6 godina

Skando makes a good point, in historical terms of ignorance.

Russia under USSR rule, and later Boris Yeltzin rule, politically ignored Serbs and the unjust attack on their homeland. We know that Russia's economy was horrible in early 1990s, but that's no excuse for them to allow others to violate international sovereignty of Yugoslavia that was protected by the UN charter, which Russia was and still is one of five permanent veto bearing members. Russia was politically ignorant again when NATO violated their own charter in February and April 1994 by bombing Serbs, which Russia did nothing to help their so-called Serb brothers politically.

This Serbian and Russian brotherhood is cultural, not political.

In fact, Russia's foreign minister faulted and condemned Serbs publicly after a Serbian tracked ambulance was bombed by an invading NATO jet in April 1994. Nor did Russia didn't any of the UN resolutions to bomb Serbs, nor veto any resolutions that removed Serbs and their land deeds from the Serbian homeland in 1995.

There may have been a time when Russia's government believed that they represented Russian culture, but they eventually felt their past wrong doings lately that they are not the cultural representatives of Russians, which is very evident online to any anthropologist at intel agencies. It seemed that the USSR Russians, and remnant political servants of today, still felt angry that communist Serbs (Yugoslavs) left the USSR "influence" in 1948.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Skando ???

Dear Mother Russia and Srbija are united for eternity with mutual Blood DNA and we both face towards the East when we pray to our Divine Lord Crucified and Holy in the Kingdom of Heaven ! Russia for the Serbian people who understand and are still sane is our Mortal God here on earth ! Russian Brothers and Sisters many times in history sacrifice the ultimate for Srbija and Serbian people's Liberty and Peace in the Balkans ! God Bless Dear Mother Russia !!!

skando

pre 6 godina

Dragan,

Is your definition of a brotherly country a country that hasn't bombed you?

Russia is not your brother. They use you. You are their ragdoll. Nothing more than a Russian foreign policy interest.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Would be very interesting Mr. Hoyt Brian to see you stand before the average Serbian who was ethnically cleansed from their ancient Serbian homes and lands, to see you stand before Serbian people who directly were raped, robbed of all earthly possessions, tortured and had direct loved ones murdered by Islamic terrorist and Croatian Nazi Ustase ! It is so easy for the USA rich who were born with a silver spoon in their mouths to go to other poor countries that are trying to survive from one day to another and say stupid insulting and damaging words. I hope you Mr. Brian learn to control your tongue and also that stupid smirk while you communicate with Srbija !!!

Sreten

pre 6 godina

Don't understand the stir this caused. He did say a lot of stupid things in his rant, but he is US Secretary of state - did anyone expected something smart from him? However, abominations have a right to have opinion . This should be ignored.

Stan

pre 6 godina

If really is a Life of Brian. Thrown into a region he knows little about, and understands less.
An apology goes a long way hereabouts. For a state dept official, those words may be hard. Think about Serbs who have apologised constantly for things they aren't guilty of, just to stroke your ego and in the hope of better days.
Stand up and be a man Brian. Apologise.

Dragan

pre 6 godina

I'm not sure who this Yee clown is, but he's clearly an anti-Serbian idiot. If he doesn't know that Russia and Serbia are friends and brothers, and that the ONLY reason Kosovo is not independent is the Russian veto, it wouldn't surprise me as the US State Department is full of buffoons and complete idiots. Hint, Russia never bombed Serbia, never tried to steal its land and give it to church burning terrorists, never sanctioned Serbia, never bombed its national TV broadcaster & murdered civilians (a war crime)...I could go on for hours. It's clear who Serbia's ally is, and who is Serbia's enemy here. So Yee, shut up and go home, you will not be missed.

Dragan

pre 6 godina

I'm not sure who this Yee clown is, but he's clearly an anti-Serbian idiot. If he doesn't know that Russia and Serbia are friends and brothers, and that the ONLY reason Kosovo is not independent is the Russian veto, it wouldn't surprise me as the US State Department is full of buffoons and complete idiots. Hint, Russia never bombed Serbia, never tried to steal its land and give it to church burning terrorists, never sanctioned Serbia, never bombed its national TV broadcaster & murdered civilians (a war crime)...I could go on for hours. It's clear who Serbia's ally is, and who is Serbia's enemy here. So Yee, shut up and go home, you will not be missed.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Would be very interesting Mr. Hoyt Brian to see you stand before the average Serbian who was ethnically cleansed from their ancient Serbian homes and lands, to see you stand before Serbian people who directly were raped, robbed of all earthly possessions, tortured and had direct loved ones murdered by Islamic terrorist and Croatian Nazi Ustase ! It is so easy for the USA rich who were born with a silver spoon in their mouths to go to other poor countries that are trying to survive from one day to another and say stupid insulting and damaging words. I hope you Mr. Brian learn to control your tongue and also that stupid smirk while you communicate with Srbija !!!

Sreten

pre 6 godina

Don't understand the stir this caused. He did say a lot of stupid things in his rant, but he is US Secretary of state - did anyone expected something smart from him? However, abominations have a right to have opinion . This should be ignored.

Stan

pre 6 godina

If really is a Life of Brian. Thrown into a region he knows little about, and understands less.
An apology goes a long way hereabouts. For a state dept official, those words may be hard. Think about Serbs who have apologised constantly for things they aren't guilty of, just to stroke your ego and in the hope of better days.
Stand up and be a man Brian. Apologise.

skando

pre 6 godina

Dragan,

Is your definition of a brotherly country a country that hasn't bombed you?

Russia is not your brother. They use you. You are their ragdoll. Nothing more than a Russian foreign policy interest.

sj

pre 6 godina

(I Was There, 25 October 2017 00:35)

Well the Russians are doing everything for Serbs now. What have the west done for your Albanians since 1999? Nothing. Investment in Kosovo ZERO. Removal of depleted uranium in Kosovo? Never removed. Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe and equals Iraq, which is very bad.

Once again I ask what has the west done for Albanians? Used you and when the time is right you will be treated like the Kurds, aka thrown under a bus.

fas

pre 6 godina

Serbia should dump the American fascist regime already. The, too long, period of the Stockholm Syndrome imposed by these genocidal criminals is over.

Russia and Serbia's other traditional ally, China will immediately fill that void and even chase the rancid odor of the Americans away.

Dragan

pre 6 godina

I get a real kick out of these westerners who bombed us, spread fake news about us, dehumanized Serbs, called us 'baby killers', tried to steal our land, and expect us to love them and to hate Russia. I have a simple message for these clueless globalist Soros loving dotards - Kosovo is Serbia. Got it?
Serbia is free and independent, that is what makes us different from out bootlicking neighbours. Pick up a history book and educate yourselves. Serbia can make trade deals with anyone, and will do so, but Serbia needs a military alliance with Russia. We have seen NATO's war crimes, and we need a military alliance to protect us against sociopathic monsters like these:
http://zpub.com/un/nato_wanted.jpg

And do you really think we want to deal with this...
http://www.rense.com/general96/It%20is%20not%20Fun%20Watching%20a%20Desperate%20Empire%20America%20Die_html_ma5e04fb.jpg

...instead of this....

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/HKB75J/moscow-russia-27th-jan-2017-russian-foreign-ministry-spokesperson-HKB75J.jpg

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/33196/natalia8.jpeg

Come on, you must be kidding me :)) LOL
Cheers!!

sj

pre 6 godina

There is Serbian Orthodox Church in Washington DC capital of the United States of America, there is Russian Orthodox Church in Belgrade capital of Serbia and there is no Serbian Orthodox Church in Moscow capital of Russia. So who is more friendly in that situation?
(anonymous, 25 October 2017 05:13)

Why would the Serbian Orthodox Church build a Church in Moscow or elsewhere in Russia for that matter when there are not enough of Serbs living there? If there were large numbers then the Russians would be more than happy to approve of such a structure.

The Russians do have one in Belgrade because after the Russian revolution a large number of Russians came to live in the then Kingdom of Yugoslavia at the invitation of King Alexander which justified the project.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Ya Serbia is not sitting on two chairs. It is sitting on a picket fence ouch that must really be painful what a trooper Serbia is. Vucic yes Mr. Lee give me more time. To get the not to bright obstinate irrational not knowing Serbs going the rite way. What are you talking boy we Americans gave you to much time you need a good whooping. Yes Sir should I assume the position, that's more like it.

sj

pre 6 godina

It would have been great to be a fly on the wall watching Yee’s artery in his neck pop out. Especially after what Vucic would have told him behind closed doors.

Yee said at the economic summit that Serbia had to recognise Kosovo, break ties with Russia "cannot sit on two chairs if it wants to join the EU."

The Washington hot air balloons know how to pick them, don’t they. Yee lost it and for a diplomat that is not a good sign. Let me say that Serbia will continue on the road to the EU and it will NEVER recognise Kosovo and it will NEVER break ties with Russia and most importantly it will continue to sit on two chairs.

The EU will never broach any of these subjects during the negotiations with Belgrade. The EU has already has different policies from the winy ones since it told the mighty windbags that they are not abandoning the Iran deal so it looks like the US will have sign on again LOL.
I wonder how the South China Sea project is going LOL? Have they taught China any lessons yet ?
Yep it the United States of Piss and Wind.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Jim, The "policy" is simply pandering to the worst elements of society in Serbia - the nationalists who are full of prejudice and have no interest in the country moving forward...
(Kristina, 25 October 2017 16:39)
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My God, some people are so arrogant and ignorant thinking we Serbs should just give up on Kosovo and turn our back on Russia to satisfy the US, who bombed and demonised us for decades, supporting Croatian fascists, Bosnian Islamic fundamentalists and Kosovo Albanian terrorists. Apparently, that's moving forward. LOL!

Without Russia, the NAZIs would have allows Croatian fascists to finish their job of genocide and eradicate all Serbs. Both Russia and China are on the rise while the western alliance is falling apart. No guesses why but those ignoramuses who don't know can just listen to Clinton and blame everyone but themselves. LOL!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 6 godina

The US State Department has transparently characterized themselves, and their explicit attitude toward Europe, through Tori Nuland's fornicating directive. Hoyt Yee continues to uphold this auspicious American diplomatic tradition.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Just like other brainwashed serbs you still keep living in denial in order to satisfy your lies and propaganda.
(Rake, 25 October 2017 13:02)
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LOL! Not sure who the brainwashed one is but I do know that western media are masters in fake news. Even the US president has admitted as much. Anyway, maybe you should educate yourself. Check -> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/kosovo/11426805/Exodus-from-Kosovo-Why-thousands-have-left-the-Balkans.html http://www.dw.com/en/lack-of-opportunity-leads-to-mass-exodus-from-kosovo/a-18256218

There's little hope investing somewhere that has terrorist and mafia roots.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

(when they needed you to destroy the prospering Yugoslavia) and after the sex is different. Besides both parts of NATO are on their way to disaster ... I see notes of panic in you latest comments. And I am still sure that a couple of terrorists will ruin your tourism. Then we can talk of how long beach you really need.


(rote kapelle, 25 October 2017 22:14) Really rote I think Russia is panicking with very few friends like reject Serbia. Both master of disaster of their own making you two deformed love birds deserve each other. Prospering Ex Yugo LOL. When Serbs kissed communist booty's they made up over 70% of the dead beat commy bureaucracy of Ex Yugo. When they were only 30% of the population. They ran the first Yugo in the ground and after 1945 they ran the second one also. Heck they cant even run them self's Serbia is a daily gong show. As for the Croatia tourism Serbs tried to destroy it and my beautiful Country. We came back stronger and better. Serbs are messing with the wrong people they will lose big time. Even at the height of the war over a million tourist came to Croatia. Panicking not at all just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cds8JMFwofk relax and shoot in the rite direction.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Dragan,

Is your definition of a brotherly country a country that hasn't bombed you?

Russia is not your brother. They use you. You are their ragdoll. Nothing more than a Russian foreign policy interest.
(skando, 24 October 2017 21:41)
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Is that so? How do you know that?
If Russia is using Serbia like a ragdoll what do you say about the US conduct then? They did bomb us and supported our enemy.
I would rather stick to Russia any day. At least I know that they are not going to kill me.

Rake

pre 6 godina

sj

"highest cancer rates"

Debunked. No such thing exists. Serbian propaganda are not real news i am afraid. We dont have that kind of problem in Kosovo. You are making things up i am afraid

"what has US done for Kosovo"

They have provided Kosovo with development in all sectors. Both education, healthcare, buisness and security. Just becuase you want to look away doesnt meant that the Us have done nothing. You got your head stuck up far from your behind i am afraid.

Just like other brainwashed serbs you still keep living in denial in order to satisfy your lies and propaganda. Remember the United States bombed you and recongnized Kosovo as an independent state. And they keep supporting and helping Kosovo 19 years later. Were was Russia when you were bombed? Oh thats right! They did not lift a finger to help you :)

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Once again I ask what has the west done for Albanians? Used you and when the time is right you will be treated like the Kurds, aka thrown under a bus.
(sj, 25 October 2017 11:30)

More than enough West has recognized Kosovo and got rid of Serbian police and military, this is more than anyone expected to be honest.

Us Kosovo Albanians were content with being republic in Yugoslavia but when Milosevic went shit crazy we got our own poor country, which is much better than being second class citizen in Serbia.

Serbia never had solution for Kosovo with Albanians in it, if it wanted too it would have offered in 1990s the same constitution Kosovo has today (even if its written by west)

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Were was Russia when you were bombed? Oh thats right! They did not lift a finger to help you :) (Rake, 25 October 2017 13:02)

Russia was betrayed by Gorby, Yeltsin, Shevardnadze, Yakovlev and other 5-th colomn. Few patriot generals tried to help Serbs but were betryed by Chernomyrdin and others ... Russia became a colony for a while but today we are ready to pay all the bills - just wait for a while.

Kristina

pre 6 godina

Jim, The "policy" is simply pandering to the worst elements of society in Serbia - the nationalists who are full of prejudice and have no interest in the country moving forward. Similar to Trump supporters in America. Russia has supported this viewpoint so of course these people love Russia. These backward people are a large minority in both countries (and Russia) and some politicians need their vote and support, which is easy to get since they are easily manipulated by rhetoric.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

the next surprise for West is that from january minimum salary will be 435 euro while even in Russia of Rote is 115 euro

Eu want account balance maximum -3% we don`t care we had -4,1% most big from Eu first 6 months and we have -7% [link]

[link]

"Home » News » Romania posts highest EU government deficit of 4.1 pct of GDP in Q2 "

I AM HERE IN THIS WEBSITE TO FIGHT AGAINST ROTE PROPAGANDA
(adi_bucharest, 25 October 2017 11:23)

One day you back the Shqiptars, then Serbs, then Croats ... You feed us with the statistics we don't need because you are a poor expert. Compare the prices inside Russia and EU to see it. Besides you see no difference between the Russian terminology ПРОЖИТОЧНЫЙ МИНИМУМ = 7000 rubles and the AVERAGE SALARY = 38 000.

Lilli

pre 6 godina

I live in the u.s. and have never heard of this guy. Trump adm is under staffed and when they do hire someone it is usually a person with no knowledge of the position they are put in.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@SJ

Again,
link 1 says there are low levels of UD detectable in Kosovo
link 2 says that there are increased cancers in Iraq.

Neither of these shows that there are increased levels of cancer in Kosovo.
Neither of these shows that any cancers in Kosovo are caused by UD.

This does not mean that there is not increased cancer or no link/risk from UD but based on the evidence that you provided, I doubt that you could join the dots in a 5 year old's coloring book

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Skando ???

Dear Mother Russia and Srbija are united for eternity with mutual Blood DNA and we both face towards the East when we pray to our Divine Lord Crucified and Holy in the Kingdom of Heaven ! Russia for the Serbian people who understand and are still sane is our Mortal God here on earth ! Russian Brothers and Sisters many times in history sacrifice the ultimate for Srbija and Serbian people's Liberty and Peace in the Balkans ! God Bless Dear Mother Russia !!!

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

It looks like the time has come for Vucic and Serbia to decide.

Will he choose Russia or the West?

Most Serbs living in the West want him to choose Russia for reasons of pride and are willing to doom the average people in Serbia to another generation of poverty and corruption.

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

in this new statistic of Eurostat it show who is the puppet of West and who is not in first 6 months of 2017 we had most big account balance from Eu -4,1% and that was before july and octomber when happened new indexactions in salaries and pensions , we have -4,1 the puppet Bulgaria only -0,7

the next surprise for West is that from january minimum salary will be 435 euro while even in Russia of Rote is 115 euro

Eu want account balance maximum -3% we don`t care we had -4,1% most big from Eu first 6 months and we have -7% http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/8332646/2-24102017-BP-EN.pdf/824ae576-abe0-45ae-ac60-030e6e841157

http://www.business-review.eu/news/romania-posts-highest-eu-government-deficit-of-4-1-pct-of-gdp-in-q2-150691

"Home » News » Romania posts highest EU government deficit of 4.1 pct of GDP in Q2 "

I AM HERE IN THIS WEBSITE TO FIGHT AGAINST ROTE PROPAGANDA

whollyC

pre 6 godina

please lets refrain from bring up boris yeltzin as a russian leader.
lets not forget that he was supported and paid by the americans.
lets remember how the us fought hard and paid much to have him win his second term.
http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html
lets remember that it was america that spent money to get a russian official elected, directly interfering with russia's internal electoral process (not just posting a few hundred ads on facebook)
its impossible to consider blasted boris as anything other than an american agent.
if one thinks the orange don is a russian agent, then boris the boozer is can be nothing but an american agent.
with that, one cannot consider any actions taken, or not taken during the yeltzin years as russia-centric, or in russia's interests. the open arrogant connection to american and subsequent american interests was, and will always be visible.
then he was booted, and the american reset happened. no longer did warshington have its agent in moscow, and no longer was russia willing to be pillaged and pushed by america. the bully doesn't like backbone, and thats where we are today.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Lenard

Permanent sucking brought to irreversable genetic changes in Croats. You're so blind that fail to see that your value for the West before (when they needed you to destroy the prospering Yugoslavia) and after the sex is different. Besides both parts of NATO are on their way to disaster ... I see notes of panic in you latest comments. And I am still sure that a couple of terrorists will ruin your tourism. Then we can talk of how long beach you really need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kosSq5AhN-s

Dwight

pre 6 godina

So deplete uranium in Kosovo and resultant cancer rates are all Serbian propaganda; read this report by the UN (that’s if you can read LOL) -[link]
(sj, 26 October 2017 09:40)

I must be a poor reader. Could you let me know which page in the report says that there is higher cancer rates in Kosovo? after that, could you show me the page where it says that these extra cancers are caused by DU.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@sj
None of what you claim about Kosovo is proved by the link you provided. You said that there are increased cancer rates in Kosovo and that they are due to depleted uranium and then claimed to have evidence.
You posted a link to a report that makes no mention of any increased cancer rates in Kosovo and also says that the investigators found no evidence of DU levels over permittable levels in Kosovo.

I Was There

pre 6 godina

Skando makes a good point, in historical terms of ignorance.

Russia under USSR rule, and later Boris Yeltzin rule, politically ignored Serbs and the unjust attack on their homeland. We know that Russia's economy was horrible in early 1990s, but that's no excuse for them to allow others to violate international sovereignty of Yugoslavia that was protected by the UN charter, which Russia was and still is one of five permanent veto bearing members. Russia was politically ignorant again when NATO violated their own charter in February and April 1994 by bombing Serbs, which Russia did nothing to help their so-called Serb brothers politically.

This Serbian and Russian brotherhood is cultural, not political.

In fact, Russia's foreign minister faulted and condemned Serbs publicly after a Serbian tracked ambulance was bombed by an invading NATO jet in April 1994. Nor did Russia didn't any of the UN resolutions to bomb Serbs, nor veto any resolutions that removed Serbs and their land deeds from the Serbian homeland in 1995.

There may have been a time when Russia's government believed that they represented Russian culture, but they eventually felt their past wrong doings lately that they are not the cultural representatives of Russians, which is very evident online to any anthropologist at intel agencies. It seemed that the USSR Russians, and remnant political servants of today, still felt angry that communist Serbs (Yugoslavs) left the USSR "influence" in 1948.

anonymous

pre 6 godina

There is Serbian Orthodox Church in Washington DC capital of the United States of America, there is Russian Orthodox Church in Belgrade capital of Serbia and there is no Serbian Orthodox Church in Moscow capital of Russia. So who is more friendly in that situation?

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

I live in the u.s. and have never heard of this guy. Trump adm is under staffed and when they do hire someone it is usually a person with no knowledge of the position they are put in.
(Lilli, 25 October 2017 15:13)

@ Lilli,
Just because you lack knowledge of his experience does not mean that he lacks knowledge.
Maybe you should do a little research before you post, you will not come off looking like a fool.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/bureau/231274.htm

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ Mark W - Relax, Mark! We're all sure he's not a dumb guy and he's educated! However, he toes the line of US policy and that's ALL he does. He does NOT think for himself or does he care to...all he knows is POLICY!! And that makes him a "dumbass" or as you would have it..an "educated Dumbass"...just like any mouthpiece of any government...yes, Serbia too!! nothing personal to Mr. Yee himself;)

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

rote kapelle, 25 October 2017 14:30)

Hahahah when they needed you the most, somebody betrayed them (russians) , next time they going to need you somebody else is going to betrayed them (russians) and that’s how the cookie crumbles . Rote The excuse machine

sj

pre 6 godina

(Rake, 25 October 2017 13:02)

So deplete uranium in Kosovo and resultant cancer rates are all Serbian propaganda; read this report by the UN (that’s if you can read LOL) -http://postconflict.unep.ch/publications/uranium.pdf

The read the next attachment on what happens to people who live on or near places with depleted uranium - http://www.mintpressnews.com/depleted-uranium-iraq-wars-legacy-cancer/193338/

The reason why no mention has been made about affects of DU in Kosovo? Well do expect Thaci et al to mention it. In fact your Albanian leaders took great pains in covering it up. But maybe Albanians are protected by a force field of freedom and democracy and good thoughts from the US.

Yes, the US and EU bombed Serbia, but today they are falling over themselves investing in Serbia. Now tell me what businesses have the US opened in Kosova? NOTHING.

The Russians could not help us in 1999, but they are making up for lost time mate. So are the Chinese and Turks. Why not ask Erdogan to open some industry in Kosova???
The US is only good on promises and nothing else.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 26 October 2017 10:06)

I am amazed that there are some many dumb Albanians around that can’t read - absolutely amazed, in fact it borders on outright stupidity. The UN report deals with depleted uranium in Kosovo and establishes that it exists there in very large quantities.

A paragraph sums from the report up the DU issue:

“Corresponding health consequences may, depending upon the dose or intake, include cancer and malfunction of body organs, particularly the kidneys”

By the way not one of those recommendations have been implemented by the west.

Now read the second attachment which gives greater detail of what has happened in Iraq in regard to DU and its effects on people there. Now if you join the dots you will find out that DU leads to cancers.

In fact in Kosovo the big issue in 2015 was Leukemia from areas where DU munitions were dropped by your loving US aircraft.

The reason why no mention has been made about affects of DU in Kosovo? Well do expect Thaci et al to mention it. In fact your Albanian leaders took great pains in covering it up since it was their liberators that did the dropping.

Unless your brain has stopped functioning completely, and I feel that has already happened, or you think that somehow there is a force field of freedom and democracy protecting Albanians against the effects of DU, then my original statement stands on the high cancer rates.

Jim

pre 6 godina

Why would any Serbian leader want anything to do with a backward corrupt kleptocracy like the Russian Government? Maybe they are paid off for such irrational support? I hope the Serbian people don't become as abused as the Russian people or the Ukrainians for that matter.

I Was There

pre 6 godina

Listen, you little minded kid, I WAS THERE!

That means I AM AN ETHNIC SERB WITNESS in SRPSKA. I'm part of the history, not the history book reader.

You seem like a disgruntled BIA idiot!

sj

pre 6 godina

reply: sj, 25 October 2017 10:59
Serbian Orthodox Churches don't attend only Serbs. There are many other nationalities and ethnicities who attend Serbian Orthodox Churhes including Russians.
(anonymous, 26 October 2017 00:04)


Yes you are correct. There are other nationalities and ethnic groups who attend our churches including Russians.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 26 October 2017 10:06)

As I said, I am amazed that there are so many dumb Albanians around. However, lets leave it at Albanians are protected by a special force field of freedom and democracy while in Iraq they do not have that special protection as they die from cancers and birth defects.

Even the average person can see the connection except for Albanians.

Freddy

pre 6 godina

Serbia you're being treated like an redheaded stepchild. Humiliating !You can't have the E,U, and Russia too....the U.S. won't allow close relations. you have to choose...Neutrality don't work with the West. "You're either with us, or against us." Been their policy for decades...get it!

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

"You're either with us, or against us." Been their policy for decades...get it!
(Freddy, 27 October 2017 07:01)

Right you boy! But we Russians have a long lasting relations with the West. And each time they launched a war against us (1812, 1853, 1914, 1941) it ended deep in Europe. Serbs today can enjoy our umbrella, our schield and land troops.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Нет ни эллина, ни иудея

Из Библии (Новый Завет). Апостол Павел в Послании к Колоссянам (гл. 3) говорит о нравственном облике истинного христианина, который должен отказаться от «ветхого человека» в себе, то есть от человеческих пороков (гнева, злобы, лжи, злоречия, любостяжания и т. д.) и духовно обновиться (ст. 10-11) — «по образу Создавшего его, где нет ни Еллина, ни Иудея, ни обрезания, ни необрезания, варвара, Скифа, раба, свободного, но все и во всём Христос».

Та же мысль содержится в другом Послании апостола Павла — к Га-латам (гл. 3, ст. 27-28) выражена в иной форме: «Все вы, во Христа крестившиеся, во Христа облеклись. Нет уже Иудея, ни язычника; нет раба, ни свободного; нет мужеского пола, ни женского: ибо все вы одно во Христе Иисусе».

Обычно толкуется в смысле декларирования равенства всех людей между собою. Но в Новом Завете говорится о равенстве только между христианами — они равны в своей вере перед Богом.

George

pre 6 godina

re: Mark.W, 25 October 2017 02:51 Will president Vucic choose Russia or the West?
Most Serbs living in the West are careless on that matter otherwise people would see thousands comments here. All they care is making money, paying bills and having fun.
Isn't it what life is all about? Anyway Vucic should focus on the extremely high economy and work on change all laws which bother potential business owners and current business owners.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Don't be misled that western alliance is falling apart since here in the West is better than ever even doe can be still far better...
(sarma, 26 October 2017 00:52)
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I am talking about the western alliance, it is falling apart. Turkey has kicked NATO German forces out of the country, the UK is leaving the EU, while EU and NATO membership is no protection for Spain's sovereignty. Turkey, Greece, Slovenia and Bulgaria all see Russia as their protector, not the US. Sorry, doesn't look healthy to me, the west has lost it. It has spread way too much death and destructions, spread and supports terrorism.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

@Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34
There are around 15000 births per hour vs around 6400 deaths per hour worldwide which looks pretty healthy to me and those numbers would be far worse without western alliance the way it is now.
(sarma, 26 October 2017 16:28)
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Are you sure? Because I think it's far more as the price of fish would be much higher if what you say in true.

sj

pre 6 godina

Of course it is not because there is not any armed attack against Spain's sovereignty. NATO can't protect the sovereignty of its members against imaginary armed attacks that only exist in your head lol
(icj1, 27 October 2017 00:45)

I was worried there because I haven't seen an idiotic comment from you for a few days and thought you have gone to sleep or a job interview lest you lose unemployment benefits. Phew I'm glad you are still alive and kicking and making these laughable statements. They are highly amusing.

Out of curiosity, do you also see spirits and they tell you to write this stuff or is it voices that talk to you in your head?

anonymous

pre 6 godina

reply: sj, 25 October 2017 10:59
Serbian Orthodox Churches don't attend only Serbs. There are many other nationalities and ethnicities who attend Serbian Orthodox Churhes including Russians.

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Zoran, 25 October 2017 18:07
Don't be misled that western alliance is falling apart since here in the West is better than ever even doe can be still far better. Leave past and policies alone and make lots of money and lots of kids and teach them language.

icj1

pre 6 godina

NATO membership is no protection for Spain's sovereignty
(Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34)

Of course it is not because there is not any armed attack against Spain's sovereignty. NATO can't protect the sovereignty of its members against imaginary armed attacks that only exist in your head lol

icj1

pre 6 godina

NATO membership is no protection for Spain's sovereignty
(Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34)

Of course it is not because there is not any armed attack against Spain's sovereignty. NATO can't protect the sovereignty of its members against imaginary armed attacks that only exist in your head lol
(icj1, 27 October 2017 00:45)

I was worried there because I haven't seen an idiotic comment
(sj, 27 October 2017 09:56)

I'm so happy then that I was able to find for the CE of B92 forums sj an idiotic comment like the one that our dear friend Zoran made :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 26 October 2017 13:43)

The UN field work was done in 2000 just 12 months after cessation of hostilities and naturally there would be no evidence because it takes anywhere from 10 to 20 years for health problems to appear.

I only quoted it because the UN identified that DU material was dropped in Kosovo. Even then the report recommended further study to see effects on humans and environment. This was never followed up. There has never been a proper study in Kosovo about DU or its effects on the environment or people.

There is no such thing as safe levels of risk from DU as it is a serious health risk material in any quantity because it can enter the human body if not properly handled, the food chain via soils and water aquifers where people draw potable water.

Here is a part of a report made by Deutsche Welle in 2012 about Kosovo.

“NATO's use of depleted uranium in bullets and armor in the Kosovo War is suspected by many to be a reason for high rates of leukemia in the region today. The long-term effects on the environment also remain unclear.”

Note: high rates of leukemia in the region today”

If you still find it difficult to connect the dots from DU to cancers in Kosovo from DU then you are as thick as a brick and no one can help you.

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Rote it is impressive how similar are Italian and Romanian language at many words the translator show the wrong synonym but i give you example where even the translator is good ! oxen in italian is buoi and in romanian is boi , in Spanish that is suposed to be a sister of Italian is totaly differently , for dog we say caine , italians say cane

Even your Russian book have no explication

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

I see Rote not commented nothing today

it need to weak up from that Vodka he drank last night

Skanderbeu you are an asshole , you try to be what an Albanian can`t be meaning educated and without hate

Lenard why don`t you move in Germany ?

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34
There are around 15000 births per hour vs around 6400 deaths per hour worldwide which looks pretty healthy to me and those numbers would be far worse without western alliance the way it is now. History proved it. People just should pay more attention how do they treat other people in order to avoid future casualties.

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34
100% sure as I'm sitting here. Before NATO existence there were barely 2 billion people worldwide just because many current NATO members had bloody wars in between each other. Since NATO treaty was signed worldwide population simply exploded to almost 8 billion. But still it is not solution to be over 34 billion people on Earth. Anyway countries, who consider that many territories were stolen from them, make huge mistake by not joining to NATO treaty.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

(sj, 27 October 2017 09:11)
I know you like to think everything is simple but it is not.
DU is suspected of causing high rates of cancer, so are PCBs, so are the shitty medical conditions, poor nutrition, poverty in Kosovo where nobody go to the doctor until it is too late, leading to cancers not being detectable when they are treatable. The statistics on cancer are also unreliable, which is partly Serbia's fault as they block any attempts by Kosovo to integrate into international systems and record keeping systems.


I'm not really sure why you care so much about DU in Kosovo, is it just so you can laugh at people there?

Avni

pre 6 godina

Vučić: Oslobodimo se mitova, laž je da je na Kosovu sve naše http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/regija/83644/vucic-oslobodimo-se-mitova-laz-je-da-je-na-kosovu-sve-nase

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The statistics on cancer are also unreliable, which is partly Serbia's fault as they block any attempts by Kosovo to integrate into international systems and record keeping systems.

I'm not really sure why you care so much about DU in Kosovo, is it just so you can laugh at people there?
(Dwight, 29 October 2017 20:32)
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Right, so Serbia was also responsible for not allowing Iraq access to facilities they needed and that's why number of children suffering Cancer had increased so much.
The only thing responsible high increase in both cases of Cancer sufferers is DU.
If you had your way, Serbia would be blamed for climate change too.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Would be very interesting Mr. Hoyt Brian to see you stand before the average Serbian who was ethnically cleansed from their ancient Serbian homes and lands, to see you stand before Serbian people who directly were raped, robbed of all earthly possessions, tortured and had direct loved ones murdered by Islamic terrorist and Croatian Nazi Ustase ! It is so easy for the USA rich who were born with a silver spoon in their mouths to go to other poor countries that are trying to survive from one day to another and say stupid insulting and damaging words. I hope you Mr. Brian learn to control your tongue and also that stupid smirk while you communicate with Srbija !!!

Dragan

pre 6 godina

I'm not sure who this Yee clown is, but he's clearly an anti-Serbian idiot. If he doesn't know that Russia and Serbia are friends and brothers, and that the ONLY reason Kosovo is not independent is the Russian veto, it wouldn't surprise me as the US State Department is full of buffoons and complete idiots. Hint, Russia never bombed Serbia, never tried to steal its land and give it to church burning terrorists, never sanctioned Serbia, never bombed its national TV broadcaster & murdered civilians (a war crime)...I could go on for hours. It's clear who Serbia's ally is, and who is Serbia's enemy here. So Yee, shut up and go home, you will not be missed.

skando

pre 6 godina

Dragan,

Is your definition of a brotherly country a country that hasn't bombed you?

Russia is not your brother. They use you. You are their ragdoll. Nothing more than a Russian foreign policy interest.

Stan

pre 6 godina

If really is a Life of Brian. Thrown into a region he knows little about, and understands less.
An apology goes a long way hereabouts. For a state dept official, those words may be hard. Think about Serbs who have apologised constantly for things they aren't guilty of, just to stroke your ego and in the hope of better days.
Stand up and be a man Brian. Apologise.

Sreten

pre 6 godina

Don't understand the stir this caused. He did say a lot of stupid things in his rant, but he is US Secretary of state - did anyone expected something smart from him? However, abominations have a right to have opinion . This should be ignored.

Rake

pre 6 godina

sj

"highest cancer rates"

Debunked. No such thing exists. Serbian propaganda are not real news i am afraid. We dont have that kind of problem in Kosovo. You are making things up i am afraid

"what has US done for Kosovo"

They have provided Kosovo with development in all sectors. Both education, healthcare, buisness and security. Just becuase you want to look away doesnt meant that the Us have done nothing. You got your head stuck up far from your behind i am afraid.

Just like other brainwashed serbs you still keep living in denial in order to satisfy your lies and propaganda. Remember the United States bombed you and recongnized Kosovo as an independent state. And they keep supporting and helping Kosovo 19 years later. Were was Russia when you were bombed? Oh thats right! They did not lift a finger to help you :)

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Once again I ask what has the west done for Albanians? Used you and when the time is right you will be treated like the Kurds, aka thrown under a bus.
(sj, 25 October 2017 11:30)

More than enough West has recognized Kosovo and got rid of Serbian police and military, this is more than anyone expected to be honest.

Us Kosovo Albanians were content with being republic in Yugoslavia but when Milosevic went shit crazy we got our own poor country, which is much better than being second class citizen in Serbia.

Serbia never had solution for Kosovo with Albanians in it, if it wanted too it would have offered in 1990s the same constitution Kosovo has today (even if its written by west)

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Jim, The "policy" is simply pandering to the worst elements of society in Serbia - the nationalists who are full of prejudice and have no interest in the country moving forward...
(Kristina, 25 October 2017 16:39)
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My God, some people are so arrogant and ignorant thinking we Serbs should just give up on Kosovo and turn our back on Russia to satisfy the US, who bombed and demonised us for decades, supporting Croatian fascists, Bosnian Islamic fundamentalists and Kosovo Albanian terrorists. Apparently, that's moving forward. LOL!

Without Russia, the NAZIs would have allows Croatian fascists to finish their job of genocide and eradicate all Serbs. Both Russia and China are on the rise while the western alliance is falling apart. No guesses why but those ignoramuses who don't know can just listen to Clinton and blame everyone but themselves. LOL!

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Ya Serbia is not sitting on two chairs. It is sitting on a picket fence ouch that must really be painful what a trooper Serbia is. Vucic yes Mr. Lee give me more time. To get the not to bright obstinate irrational not knowing Serbs going the rite way. What are you talking boy we Americans gave you to much time you need a good whooping. Yes Sir should I assume the position, that's more like it.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Lenard

Permanent sucking brought to irreversable genetic changes in Croats. You're so blind that fail to see that your value for the West before (when they needed you to destroy the prospering Yugoslavia) and after the sex is different. Besides both parts of NATO are on their way to disaster ... I see notes of panic in you latest comments. And I am still sure that a couple of terrorists will ruin your tourism. Then we can talk of how long beach you really need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kosSq5AhN-s

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Were was Russia when you were bombed? Oh thats right! They did not lift a finger to help you :) (Rake, 25 October 2017 13:02)

Russia was betrayed by Gorby, Yeltsin, Shevardnadze, Yakovlev and other 5-th colomn. Few patriot generals tried to help Serbs but were betryed by Chernomyrdin and others ... Russia became a colony for a while but today we are ready to pay all the bills - just wait for a while.

Jim

pre 6 godina

Why would any Serbian leader want anything to do with a backward corrupt kleptocracy like the Russian Government? Maybe they are paid off for such irrational support? I hope the Serbian people don't become as abused as the Russian people or the Ukrainians for that matter.

Dragan

pre 6 godina

I get a real kick out of these westerners who bombed us, spread fake news about us, dehumanized Serbs, called us 'baby killers', tried to steal our land, and expect us to love them and to hate Russia. I have a simple message for these clueless globalist Soros loving dotards - Kosovo is Serbia. Got it?
Serbia is free and independent, that is what makes us different from out bootlicking neighbours. Pick up a history book and educate yourselves. Serbia can make trade deals with anyone, and will do so, but Serbia needs a military alliance with Russia. We have seen NATO's war crimes, and we need a military alliance to protect us against sociopathic monsters like these:
http://zpub.com/un/nato_wanted.jpg

And do you really think we want to deal with this...
http://www.rense.com/general96/It%20is%20not%20Fun%20Watching%20a%20Desperate%20Empire%20America%20Die_html_ma5e04fb.jpg

...instead of this....

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/HKB75J/moscow-russia-27th-jan-2017-russian-foreign-ministry-spokesperson-HKB75J.jpg

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/33196/natalia8.jpeg

Come on, you must be kidding me :)) LOL
Cheers!!

Kristina

pre 6 godina

Jim, The "policy" is simply pandering to the worst elements of society in Serbia - the nationalists who are full of prejudice and have no interest in the country moving forward. Similar to Trump supporters in America. Russia has supported this viewpoint so of course these people love Russia. These backward people are a large minority in both countries (and Russia) and some politicians need their vote and support, which is easy to get since they are easily manipulated by rhetoric.

anonymous

pre 6 godina

There is Serbian Orthodox Church in Washington DC capital of the United States of America, there is Russian Orthodox Church in Belgrade capital of Serbia and there is no Serbian Orthodox Church in Moscow capital of Russia. So who is more friendly in that situation?

sj

pre 6 godina

(I Was There, 25 October 2017 00:35)

Well the Russians are doing everything for Serbs now. What have the west done for your Albanians since 1999? Nothing. Investment in Kosovo ZERO. Removal of depleted uranium in Kosovo? Never removed. Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe and equals Iraq, which is very bad.

Once again I ask what has the west done for Albanians? Used you and when the time is right you will be treated like the Kurds, aka thrown under a bus.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ Mark W - Relax, Mark! We're all sure he's not a dumb guy and he's educated! However, he toes the line of US policy and that's ALL he does. He does NOT think for himself or does he care to...all he knows is POLICY!! And that makes him a "dumbass" or as you would have it..an "educated Dumbass"...just like any mouthpiece of any government...yes, Serbia too!! nothing personal to Mr. Yee himself;)

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Just like other brainwashed serbs you still keep living in denial in order to satisfy your lies and propaganda.
(Rake, 25 October 2017 13:02)
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LOL! Not sure who the brainwashed one is but I do know that western media are masters in fake news. Even the US president has admitted as much. Anyway, maybe you should educate yourself. Check -> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/kosovo/11426805/Exodus-from-Kosovo-Why-thousands-have-left-the-Balkans.html http://www.dw.com/en/lack-of-opportunity-leads-to-mass-exodus-from-kosovo/a-18256218

There's little hope investing somewhere that has terrorist and mafia roots.

sj

pre 6 godina

Of course it is not because there is not any armed attack against Spain's sovereignty. NATO can't protect the sovereignty of its members against imaginary armed attacks that only exist in your head lol
(icj1, 27 October 2017 00:45)

I was worried there because I haven't seen an idiotic comment from you for a few days and thought you have gone to sleep or a job interview lest you lose unemployment benefits. Phew I'm glad you are still alive and kicking and making these laughable statements. They are highly amusing.

Out of curiosity, do you also see spirits and they tell you to write this stuff or is it voices that talk to you in your head?

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Skando ???

Dear Mother Russia and Srbija are united for eternity with mutual Blood DNA and we both face towards the East when we pray to our Divine Lord Crucified and Holy in the Kingdom of Heaven ! Russia for the Serbian people who understand and are still sane is our Mortal God here on earth ! Russian Brothers and Sisters many times in history sacrifice the ultimate for Srbija and Serbian people's Liberty and Peace in the Balkans ! God Bless Dear Mother Russia !!!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Dragan,

Is your definition of a brotherly country a country that hasn't bombed you?

Russia is not your brother. They use you. You are their ragdoll. Nothing more than a Russian foreign policy interest.
(skando, 24 October 2017 21:41)
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Is that so? How do you know that?
If Russia is using Serbia like a ragdoll what do you say about the US conduct then? They did bomb us and supported our enemy.
I would rather stick to Russia any day. At least I know that they are not going to kill me.

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

It looks like the time has come for Vucic and Serbia to decide.

Will he choose Russia or the West?

Most Serbs living in the West want him to choose Russia for reasons of pride and are willing to doom the average people in Serbia to another generation of poverty and corruption.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 6 godina

The US State Department has transparently characterized themselves, and their explicit attitude toward Europe, through Tori Nuland's fornicating directive. Hoyt Yee continues to uphold this auspicious American diplomatic tradition.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

the next surprise for West is that from january minimum salary will be 435 euro while even in Russia of Rote is 115 euro

Eu want account balance maximum -3% we don`t care we had -4,1% most big from Eu first 6 months and we have -7% [link]

[link]

"Home » News » Romania posts highest EU government deficit of 4.1 pct of GDP in Q2 "

I AM HERE IN THIS WEBSITE TO FIGHT AGAINST ROTE PROPAGANDA
(adi_bucharest, 25 October 2017 11:23)

One day you back the Shqiptars, then Serbs, then Croats ... You feed us with the statistics we don't need because you are a poor expert. Compare the prices inside Russia and EU to see it. Besides you see no difference between the Russian terminology ПРОЖИТОЧНЫЙ МИНИМУМ = 7000 rubles and the AVERAGE SALARY = 38 000.

Lilli

pre 6 godina

I live in the u.s. and have never heard of this guy. Trump adm is under staffed and when they do hire someone it is usually a person with no knowledge of the position they are put in.

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

I live in the u.s. and have never heard of this guy. Trump adm is under staffed and when they do hire someone it is usually a person with no knowledge of the position they are put in.
(Lilli, 25 October 2017 15:13)

@ Lilli,
Just because you lack knowledge of his experience does not mean that he lacks knowledge.
Maybe you should do a little research before you post, you will not come off looking like a fool.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/bureau/231274.htm

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

"You're either with us, or against us." Been their policy for decades...get it!
(Freddy, 27 October 2017 07:01)

Right you boy! But we Russians have a long lasting relations with the West. And each time they launched a war against us (1812, 1853, 1914, 1941) it ended deep in Europe. Serbs today can enjoy our umbrella, our schield and land troops.

sj

pre 6 godina

It would have been great to be a fly on the wall watching Yee’s artery in his neck pop out. Especially after what Vucic would have told him behind closed doors.

Yee said at the economic summit that Serbia had to recognise Kosovo, break ties with Russia "cannot sit on two chairs if it wants to join the EU."

The Washington hot air balloons know how to pick them, don’t they. Yee lost it and for a diplomat that is not a good sign. Let me say that Serbia will continue on the road to the EU and it will NEVER recognise Kosovo and it will NEVER break ties with Russia and most importantly it will continue to sit on two chairs.

The EU will never broach any of these subjects during the negotiations with Belgrade. The EU has already has different policies from the winy ones since it told the mighty windbags that they are not abandoning the Iran deal so it looks like the US will have sign on again LOL.
I wonder how the South China Sea project is going LOL? Have they taught China any lessons yet ?
Yep it the United States of Piss and Wind.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Нет ни эллина, ни иудея

Из Библии (Новый Завет). Апостол Павел в Послании к Колоссянам (гл. 3) говорит о нравственном облике истинного христианина, который должен отказаться от «ветхого человека» в себе, то есть от человеческих пороков (гнева, злобы, лжи, злоречия, любостяжания и т. д.) и духовно обновиться (ст. 10-11) — «по образу Создавшего его, где нет ни Еллина, ни Иудея, ни обрезания, ни необрезания, варвара, Скифа, раба, свободного, но все и во всём Христос».

Та же мысль содержится в другом Послании апостола Павла — к Га-латам (гл. 3, ст. 27-28) выражена в иной форме: «Все вы, во Христа крестившиеся, во Христа облеклись. Нет уже Иудея, ни язычника; нет раба, ни свободного; нет мужеского пола, ни женского: ибо все вы одно во Христе Иисусе».

Обычно толкуется в смысле декларирования равенства всех людей между собою. Но в Новом Завете говорится о равенстве только между христианами — они равны в своей вере перед Богом.

whollyC

pre 6 godina

please lets refrain from bring up boris yeltzin as a russian leader.
lets not forget that he was supported and paid by the americans.
lets remember how the us fought hard and paid much to have him win his second term.
http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html
lets remember that it was america that spent money to get a russian official elected, directly interfering with russia's internal electoral process (not just posting a few hundred ads on facebook)
its impossible to consider blasted boris as anything other than an american agent.
if one thinks the orange don is a russian agent, then boris the boozer is can be nothing but an american agent.
with that, one cannot consider any actions taken, or not taken during the yeltzin years as russia-centric, or in russia's interests. the open arrogant connection to american and subsequent american interests was, and will always be visible.
then he was booted, and the american reset happened. no longer did warshington have its agent in moscow, and no longer was russia willing to be pillaged and pushed by america. the bully doesn't like backbone, and thats where we are today.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@sj
None of what you claim about Kosovo is proved by the link you provided. You said that there are increased cancer rates in Kosovo and that they are due to depleted uranium and then claimed to have evidence.
You posted a link to a report that makes no mention of any increased cancer rates in Kosovo and also says that the investigators found no evidence of DU levels over permittable levels in Kosovo.

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

in this new statistic of Eurostat it show who is the puppet of West and who is not in first 6 months of 2017 we had most big account balance from Eu -4,1% and that was before july and octomber when happened new indexactions in salaries and pensions , we have -4,1 the puppet Bulgaria only -0,7

the next surprise for West is that from january minimum salary will be 435 euro while even in Russia of Rote is 115 euro

Eu want account balance maximum -3% we don`t care we had -4,1% most big from Eu first 6 months and we have -7% http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/8332646/2-24102017-BP-EN.pdf/824ae576-abe0-45ae-ac60-030e6e841157

http://www.business-review.eu/news/romania-posts-highest-eu-government-deficit-of-4-1-pct-of-gdp-in-q2-150691

"Home » News » Romania posts highest EU government deficit of 4.1 pct of GDP in Q2 "

I AM HERE IN THIS WEBSITE TO FIGHT AGAINST ROTE PROPAGANDA

fas

pre 6 godina

Serbia should dump the American fascist regime already. The, too long, period of the Stockholm Syndrome imposed by these genocidal criminals is over.

Russia and Serbia's other traditional ally, China will immediately fill that void and even chase the rancid odor of the Americans away.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

So deplete uranium in Kosovo and resultant cancer rates are all Serbian propaganda; read this report by the UN (that’s if you can read LOL) -[link]
(sj, 26 October 2017 09:40)

I must be a poor reader. Could you let me know which page in the report says that there is higher cancer rates in Kosovo? after that, could you show me the page where it says that these extra cancers are caused by DU.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Don't be misled that western alliance is falling apart since here in the West is better than ever even doe can be still far better...
(sarma, 26 October 2017 00:52)
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I am talking about the western alliance, it is falling apart. Turkey has kicked NATO German forces out of the country, the UK is leaving the EU, while EU and NATO membership is no protection for Spain's sovereignty. Turkey, Greece, Slovenia and Bulgaria all see Russia as their protector, not the US. Sorry, doesn't look healthy to me, the west has lost it. It has spread way too much death and destructions, spread and supports terrorism.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 26 October 2017 13:43)

The UN field work was done in 2000 just 12 months after cessation of hostilities and naturally there would be no evidence because it takes anywhere from 10 to 20 years for health problems to appear.

I only quoted it because the UN identified that DU material was dropped in Kosovo. Even then the report recommended further study to see effects on humans and environment. This was never followed up. There has never been a proper study in Kosovo about DU or its effects on the environment or people.

There is no such thing as safe levels of risk from DU as it is a serious health risk material in any quantity because it can enter the human body if not properly handled, the food chain via soils and water aquifers where people draw potable water.

Here is a part of a report made by Deutsche Welle in 2012 about Kosovo.

“NATO's use of depleted uranium in bullets and armor in the Kosovo War is suspected by many to be a reason for high rates of leukemia in the region today. The long-term effects on the environment also remain unclear.”

Note: high rates of leukemia in the region today”

If you still find it difficult to connect the dots from DU to cancers in Kosovo from DU then you are as thick as a brick and no one can help you.

I Was There

pre 6 godina

Skando makes a good point, in historical terms of ignorance.

Russia under USSR rule, and later Boris Yeltzin rule, politically ignored Serbs and the unjust attack on their homeland. We know that Russia's economy was horrible in early 1990s, but that's no excuse for them to allow others to violate international sovereignty of Yugoslavia that was protected by the UN charter, which Russia was and still is one of five permanent veto bearing members. Russia was politically ignorant again when NATO violated their own charter in February and April 1994 by bombing Serbs, which Russia did nothing to help their so-called Serb brothers politically.

This Serbian and Russian brotherhood is cultural, not political.

In fact, Russia's foreign minister faulted and condemned Serbs publicly after a Serbian tracked ambulance was bombed by an invading NATO jet in April 1994. Nor did Russia didn't any of the UN resolutions to bomb Serbs, nor veto any resolutions that removed Serbs and their land deeds from the Serbian homeland in 1995.

There may have been a time when Russia's government believed that they represented Russian culture, but they eventually felt their past wrong doings lately that they are not the cultural representatives of Russians, which is very evident online to any anthropologist at intel agencies. It seemed that the USSR Russians, and remnant political servants of today, still felt angry that communist Serbs (Yugoslavs) left the USSR "influence" in 1948.

sj

pre 6 godina

There is Serbian Orthodox Church in Washington DC capital of the United States of America, there is Russian Orthodox Church in Belgrade capital of Serbia and there is no Serbian Orthodox Church in Moscow capital of Russia. So who is more friendly in that situation?
(anonymous, 25 October 2017 05:13)

Why would the Serbian Orthodox Church build a Church in Moscow or elsewhere in Russia for that matter when there are not enough of Serbs living there? If there were large numbers then the Russians would be more than happy to approve of such a structure.

The Russians do have one in Belgrade because after the Russian revolution a large number of Russians came to live in the then Kingdom of Yugoslavia at the invitation of King Alexander which justified the project.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

rote kapelle, 25 October 2017 14:30)

Hahahah when they needed you the most, somebody betrayed them (russians) , next time they going to need you somebody else is going to betrayed them (russians) and that’s how the cookie crumbles . Rote The excuse machine

George

pre 6 godina

re: Mark.W, 25 October 2017 02:51 Will president Vucic choose Russia or the West?
Most Serbs living in the West are careless on that matter otherwise people would see thousands comments here. All they care is making money, paying bills and having fun.
Isn't it what life is all about? Anyway Vucic should focus on the extremely high economy and work on change all laws which bother potential business owners and current business owners.

sj

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(Rake, 25 October 2017 13:02)

So deplete uranium in Kosovo and resultant cancer rates are all Serbian propaganda; read this report by the UN (that’s if you can read LOL) -http://postconflict.unep.ch/publications/uranium.pdf

The read the next attachment on what happens to people who live on or near places with depleted uranium - http://www.mintpressnews.com/depleted-uranium-iraq-wars-legacy-cancer/193338/

The reason why no mention has been made about affects of DU in Kosovo? Well do expect Thaci et al to mention it. In fact your Albanian leaders took great pains in covering it up. But maybe Albanians are protected by a force field of freedom and democracy and good thoughts from the US.

Yes, the US and EU bombed Serbia, but today they are falling over themselves investing in Serbia. Now tell me what businesses have the US opened in Kosova? NOTHING.

The Russians could not help us in 1999, but they are making up for lost time mate. So are the Chinese and Turks. Why not ask Erdogan to open some industry in Kosova???
The US is only good on promises and nothing else.

sj

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reply: sj, 25 October 2017 10:59
Serbian Orthodox Churches don't attend only Serbs. There are many other nationalities and ethnicities who attend Serbian Orthodox Churhes including Russians.
(anonymous, 26 October 2017 00:04)


Yes you are correct. There are other nationalities and ethnic groups who attend our churches including Russians.

sj

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(Dwight, 26 October 2017 10:06)

I am amazed that there are some many dumb Albanians around that can’t read - absolutely amazed, in fact it borders on outright stupidity. The UN report deals with depleted uranium in Kosovo and establishes that it exists there in very large quantities.

A paragraph sums from the report up the DU issue:

“Corresponding health consequences may, depending upon the dose or intake, include cancer and malfunction of body organs, particularly the kidneys”

By the way not one of those recommendations have been implemented by the west.

Now read the second attachment which gives greater detail of what has happened in Iraq in regard to DU and its effects on people there. Now if you join the dots you will find out that DU leads to cancers.

In fact in Kosovo the big issue in 2015 was Leukemia from areas where DU munitions were dropped by your loving US aircraft.

The reason why no mention has been made about affects of DU in Kosovo? Well do expect Thaci et al to mention it. In fact your Albanian leaders took great pains in covering it up since it was their liberators that did the dropping.

Unless your brain has stopped functioning completely, and I feel that has already happened, or you think that somehow there is a force field of freedom and democracy protecting Albanians against the effects of DU, then my original statement stands on the high cancer rates.

sj

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(Dwight, 26 October 2017 10:06)

As I said, I am amazed that there are so many dumb Albanians around. However, lets leave it at Albanians are protected by a special force field of freedom and democracy while in Iraq they do not have that special protection as they die from cancers and birth defects.

Even the average person can see the connection except for Albanians.

adi_bucharest

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I see Rote not commented nothing today

it need to weak up from that Vodka he drank last night

Skanderbeu you are an asshole , you try to be what an Albanian can`t be meaning educated and without hate

Lenard why don`t you move in Germany ?

Dwight

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@SJ

Again,
link 1 says there are low levels of UD detectable in Kosovo
link 2 says that there are increased cancers in Iraq.

Neither of these shows that there are increased levels of cancer in Kosovo.
Neither of these shows that any cancers in Kosovo are caused by UD.

This does not mean that there is not increased cancer or no link/risk from UD but based on the evidence that you provided, I doubt that you could join the dots in a 5 year old's coloring book

Zoran

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@Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34
There are around 15000 births per hour vs around 6400 deaths per hour worldwide which looks pretty healthy to me and those numbers would be far worse without western alliance the way it is now.
(sarma, 26 October 2017 16:28)
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Are you sure? Because I think it's far more as the price of fish would be much higher if what you say in true.

Lenard

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(when they needed you to destroy the prospering Yugoslavia) and after the sex is different. Besides both parts of NATO are on their way to disaster ... I see notes of panic in you latest comments. And I am still sure that a couple of terrorists will ruin your tourism. Then we can talk of how long beach you really need.


(rote kapelle, 25 October 2017 22:14) Really rote I think Russia is panicking with very few friends like reject Serbia. Both master of disaster of their own making you two deformed love birds deserve each other. Prospering Ex Yugo LOL. When Serbs kissed communist booty's they made up over 70% of the dead beat commy bureaucracy of Ex Yugo. When they were only 30% of the population. They ran the first Yugo in the ground and after 1945 they ran the second one also. Heck they cant even run them self's Serbia is a daily gong show. As for the Croatia tourism Serbs tried to destroy it and my beautiful Country. We came back stronger and better. Serbs are messing with the wrong people they will lose big time. Even at the height of the war over a million tourist came to Croatia. Panicking not at all just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cds8JMFwofk relax and shoot in the rite direction.

sarma

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@Zoran, 25 October 2017 18:07
Don't be misled that western alliance is falling apart since here in the West is better than ever even doe can be still far better. Leave past and policies alone and make lots of money and lots of kids and teach them language.

adi_bucharest

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Rote it is impressive how similar are Italian and Romanian language at many words the translator show the wrong synonym but i give you example where even the translator is good ! oxen in italian is buoi and in romanian is boi , in Spanish that is suposed to be a sister of Italian is totaly differently , for dog we say caine , italians say cane

Even your Russian book have no explication

icj1

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NATO membership is no protection for Spain's sovereignty
(Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34)

Of course it is not because there is not any armed attack against Spain's sovereignty. NATO can't protect the sovereignty of its members against imaginary armed attacks that only exist in your head lol
(icj1, 27 October 2017 00:45)

I was worried there because I haven't seen an idiotic comment
(sj, 27 October 2017 09:56)

I'm so happy then that I was able to find for the CE of B92 forums sj an idiotic comment like the one that our dear friend Zoran made :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

I Was There

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Listen, you little minded kid, I WAS THERE!

That means I AM AN ETHNIC SERB WITNESS in SRPSKA. I'm part of the history, not the history book reader.

You seem like a disgruntled BIA idiot!

Avni

pre 6 godina

Vučić: Oslobodimo se mitova, laž je da je na Kosovu sve naše http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/regija/83644/vucic-oslobodimo-se-mitova-laz-je-da-je-na-kosovu-sve-nase

anonymous

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reply: sj, 25 October 2017 10:59
Serbian Orthodox Churches don't attend only Serbs. There are many other nationalities and ethnicities who attend Serbian Orthodox Churhes including Russians.

sarma

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@Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34
There are around 15000 births per hour vs around 6400 deaths per hour worldwide which looks pretty healthy to me and those numbers would be far worse without western alliance the way it is now. History proved it. People just should pay more attention how do they treat other people in order to avoid future casualties.

icj1

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NATO membership is no protection for Spain's sovereignty
(Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34)

Of course it is not because there is not any armed attack against Spain's sovereignty. NATO can't protect the sovereignty of its members against imaginary armed attacks that only exist in your head lol

Dwight

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(sj, 27 October 2017 09:11)
I know you like to think everything is simple but it is not.
DU is suspected of causing high rates of cancer, so are PCBs, so are the shitty medical conditions, poor nutrition, poverty in Kosovo where nobody go to the doctor until it is too late, leading to cancers not being detectable when they are treatable. The statistics on cancer are also unreliable, which is partly Serbia's fault as they block any attempts by Kosovo to integrate into international systems and record keeping systems.


I'm not really sure why you care so much about DU in Kosovo, is it just so you can laugh at people there?

Freddy

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Serbia you're being treated like an redheaded stepchild. Humiliating !You can't have the E,U, and Russia too....the U.S. won't allow close relations. you have to choose...Neutrality don't work with the West. "You're either with us, or against us." Been their policy for decades...get it!

sarma

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@Zoran, 26 October 2017 11:34
100% sure as I'm sitting here. Before NATO existence there were barely 2 billion people worldwide just because many current NATO members had bloody wars in between each other. Since NATO treaty was signed worldwide population simply exploded to almost 8 billion. But still it is not solution to be over 34 billion people on Earth. Anyway countries, who consider that many territories were stolen from them, make huge mistake by not joining to NATO treaty.

Peggy

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The statistics on cancer are also unreliable, which is partly Serbia's fault as they block any attempts by Kosovo to integrate into international systems and record keeping systems.

I'm not really sure why you care so much about DU in Kosovo, is it just so you can laugh at people there?
(Dwight, 29 October 2017 20:32)
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Right, so Serbia was also responsible for not allowing Iraq access to facilities they needed and that's why number of children suffering Cancer had increased so much.
The only thing responsible high increase in both cases of Cancer sufferers is DU.
If you had your way, Serbia would be blamed for climate change too.