EU's position on Catalonia remains unchanged - spokesperson

So being a NATO and EU member doesn't safeguard your sovereignty.

EU double standards - they opened the can of worms with the Kosovo precedent and many are now following. The cracks within the EU and NATO are just getting deeper.

When Catalonia becomes a quasi-entity, the door will be wide open. Republika Srpska will follow.

Didn't the Spanish government told the serb government to shut the hell up,mind your own business and don't talk at all about the Catalan issue?!
Or is just srb being a srb ,as always
(delon, 23 October 2017 16:43)

@ delon - No, just a Albanian being an Albanian, as always :) Never understanding how things work. You're a moron putting words in others mouth just to light some kind of fire, which is what you Albs on here are good at doing. Now go do your homework and try to understand how Madrid is working with BG...sheeesh, so shallow!!

lol, well, next step is for a "William walker" to set-up a "massacre" by the Spanish police and then the Catalans will be transferred from "terrorists" to "freedom fighters" and then the the Spanish government will be offered a "compromise" they will have to accept, which they can't or won't....the let the missles drop....Madrid will burn for about 78 days or so...then...WAALAA...INDEPENDENCE!!!

@Watcher:
Are you still at it with these stupidities? The future of Spain and Catalonia will depend on how each of them will approach the problem, what actions they will or won't take. If Spain will start shelling and burning Catalan homes, start raping and pillaging, expelling to France 3-4 million Catalans (or nearly half of the population), and chasing the other half up in the mountains; if it will start filling refrigerated trucks with corpses of Catalan civilians or burying them in its military bases, then you're damn right, they will face European outrage and condemnation and you could be damn sure, they won't be able to hold on to Catalonia. So far none of that has happened. You theorizing and fantasizing about it just exposes your own sick mind.

Serbia on the other hand, did it's worst it could possibly do and suffered the consequences. No, dummy, it wasn't William Walker that caused you to lose Kosova, it was your own government filled to the brim with crazed war-criminals. It wasn't William Walker, who killed 8000 civilians at Srebrenica that your own protector Putin said it was a horrible massacre. It wasn't William Walker, who shelled Sarajevo marketplaces, and it wasn't William Walker that went door to door in Prishtina and every other town and village in Kosova to kick people out of their homes and onto deportation trains, in scenes that reminded Europe of the Holocaust. And that killed women, the old and the babies if they didn't move fast enough.

@Watcher:

Only the fact that you go to such lengths as to suggest that William Walker, an OSCE diplomat, would go to some remote village, to change the clothes of the victims of the Serbian criminal army, just to make Serbs look bad (because obviously, they had a spotless reputation up until that point), shows how corrupt your soul is from the evils of the Serbian nationalism. Really dude, really? How about bullet wounds, how about pools of blood, were those manufactured as well? Unbelievable!

Didn't the Spanish government told the serb government to shut the hell up,mind your own business and don't talk at all about the Catalan issue?!
Or is just srb being a srb ,as always

well, next step is for a "William walker" to set-up a "massacre" by the Spanish police and then the Catalans will be transferred from "terrorists" to "freedom fighters" and then the the Spanish government will be offered a "compromise" they will have to accept, which they can't or won't....the let the missles drop....Madrid will burn for about 78 days or so...then...WAALAA...INDEPENDENCE!!!
(Watcher, 23 October 2017 15:42)

How Madrid burning for 78 days or 78 minutes has anything to do with anybody's independence, dear? It appears you had a bad night and/or some fever as you appear to be raving lol

Two reports were made about US involvement into El Salvador massacres, one by UN that is directly accusing MR WALKER for "complicity in and cover up of the massacres", and the US House investigative report that was less strongly worded.

"Mr. Moakley, whose own House investigation came to virtually the same findings as those of the United Nations commission, said on Thursday that the Bush Administration "was either involved in a cover-up or they had very incompetent and insensitive people."

This is the man you believe , Therett?
He is CIA / State Department man / abomination. What's really there doesn't matter. He will see what suits him to see, and won't what doesn't.

. It wasn't William Walker, who killed 8000 civilians at Srebrenica that your own protector Putin said it was a horrible massacre. It wasn't William Walker, who shelled Sarajevo marketplaces, and it wasn't William Walker that went door to door in Prishtina and every other town and village in Kosova to kick people out of their homes and onto deportation trains, in scenes that reminded Europe of the Holocaust. And that killed women, the old and the babies if they didn't move fast enough.
(Therret Prizreni, 23 October 2017 22:39) #

You will find PUTIN talking about the 3000 civilians massacred in spring of 1992 .The 3000 Serbs that Oric and his army killed that triggered a full on killing spree.
Thank Oric and the army for that.

icj1
You keep missing my point. I remember you when I was "rambling" about Malysian plane being shot down over Ukraine (by someone) and newspapers asking for blood, and comparing it by US shooting down Iranian plane and entire crew being decorated for it.
You couldn't see my point either.

Therret Prizreni,
William Walker is "OSCE diplomat"? And a person you find trustworthy?
Perhaps you could read a bit about this man's carrier...
He was involved previously in the Iran-Contra scandal in funding the covert U.S.-backed anti-government force in Nicaragua. Afterwards, he was appointed as U.S. ambassador to El Salvador, during which time the death squad activity against left-wing guerillas escalated.
Walker was U.S. ambassador to El Salvador in November 1989 when six leading Jesuit priests, their housekeeper, and her daughter were dragged from their beds and murdered by the Salvadoran Army.
The killings were carried out by the Atlacatl Battalion, which was recruited, trained, and deployed by the U.S. military, supposedly in order to improve the Salvadoran Army's human rights performance. The Atlacatl was responsible for the worst atrocities of the entire war.
Read more in New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/21/world/how-us-actions-helped-hide-salvador-human-rights-abuses.html?pagewanted=all

" The United Nations report speaks of hundreds of skeletons, including those of scores of children,.....describing piles of bodies and reports of of more than 700 victims. "

Did Walker say anything? No.

Thank Oric and his army for killing 3000 Serbs?!! That's such a depraved and Serb-hating comment; shame on you for thanking somebody for killing thousands of Serbs!
(icj1, 24 October 2017 14:55) #

That is not what I wrote .
I wrote Oric is to BLAME , not Thank, for the killings of 1992 that lead to killings of 1995, not Serbs.

@Therret Prizreni,

Very, very well said, well done, I know the truth hurts the Serbs but it's good you tell it to their face beacouse your English is so good.

you appear to be raving 
(icj1, 23 October 2017 23:13)

---

Pot. Kettle. Black.
icj1, the CB of B92, should realize the reams of their daily drivel that include icj1's pathological depiction of entire populations with bigoted homogenous terms, icj1's double negatives, and icj1's flip-flops on what makes sense, have long ago solidly incriminated icj1 as B92's raving commentator.

PS CB = Chief Bigot




Withnesses from Salvador?

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/21/opinion/are-we-shielding-the-killers-of-salvador-s-priests.html

"When another Salvadoran source ventured forward with evidence, the response of U.S. officials could only be described as punitive. Lucia Barrera de Cerna, who witnessed the assault, was whisked off to Miami for four days of abusive questioning and threats of deportation by U.S. agents and a Salvadoran colonel - after Ambassador W A L K E R had offered her ''protection'' in the U.S. "

About murder of 6 PRIESTS?

"Ambassador W I L L I A M W A L K E R told Congressional investigators there was no evidence to implicate the military, and asserted, without foundation, that leftist rebels might have committed the act while dressed in soldiers' garb.
Now we learn that a U.S. Army major was told in December by a Salvadoran colonel, Carlos Armando Aviles, that the military was responsible. If U.S. officials are to be believed, the major inexplicably kept this to himself for 10 days."

There is all kind of things....nuns raped and shot in a head point blank with US officials suggesting that they might have run into a military roadblock and refused to stop!!!

You will find PUTIN talking about the 3000 civilians massacred in spring of 1992 .The 3000 Serbs that Oric and his army killed that triggered a full on killing spree. Thank Oric and the army for that.
(Sasa from Near Jagodina City, 24 October 2017 14:24)

THAT WAS HIS MEANING. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT SERBS WERE KILLED FIRST. THEN RATKO MADE HIS JOB.

@ (Sreten, 24 October 2017 07:57)
@ (Sreten, 24 October 2017 07:55)
@ (Sreten, 24 October 2017 07:54)

Dear, you might want to take a minute, collect your thoughts and express in a few sentences what your point is as you are really not making any sense with the rambling in your dissertation lol

@ (icj1, DD Month YYYY hh:mm)



icj1, the CB of B92, hasn't been able to formulate any semblance of coherent thought in a minute, hour, day, month or years. Reams of daily drivel that routinely use homogenous terms to brand an ethnic group of diverse people, continue to characterize the bigoted essence of icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot




The 3000 Serbs that Oric and his army killed that triggered a full on killing spree.
Thank Oric and the army for that.
(Sasa from Near Jagodina City, 24 October 2017 14:24)

Thank Oric and his army for killing 3000 Serbs?!! That's such a depraved and Serb-hating comment; shame on you for thanking somebody for killing thousands of Serbs!
(icj1, 24 October 2017 14:55)

That is not what I wrote .
I wrote Oric is to BLAME , not Thank, for the killings of 1992
(Sasa from Near Jagodina City, 24 October 2017 17:04)

You wrote about "the 3000 Serbs that Oric and his army killed" followed by "Thank Oric and the army for that". So, you definitively wrote "Thank" and shame on you for thanking somebody for the killing of thousands of Serbs!

ZORAN : When Catalonia becomes a quasi-entity ...

CAT ALANIA = GOTT ALANIA WAS A HORDE FORMED BY SOUTH RUSSIAN TRIBES FROM NORTHERN CAUCASUS AND CRIMEA. THEN THEY SEIZED SOUTH OF EUROPE INCLUDING PART OF BALKANS. AND IF YOU FIND G2A & RIB HAPPLOGROUPS IN YOUR BLOOD YOU MAY LOOK AT THEM THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THE RUSSIANS. PART OF THE SLAVS AND THE CAUCASIANS AS MAMELUKES CAME THERE IN 15 CENTURY FROM MAGRIB.

There was no Spain before 17 century and the peninsula was divided for provinces (hordes) with Castilia (White World) and Aragon (Black World) representing Rus Horde and autonomus Ottomans. In 1492 they divided the whole world between the two and nobody dared to mind because the whole wold belonged to them

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Тордесильясский_договор

Those were different cossacks and so they looked different :

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/eb/9c/b3/eb9cb3a414d75a845c41f4bb5b29fe8a.jpg
http://yuchansson.blogspot.ru/2017/02/blog-post_42.html?m=1
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мамлюки#/media/File:Mamluk.jpg
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мамлюки#/media/File:Three_Mamelukes_with_lances_on_horseback.jpg
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мамлюки#/media/File:Mamluke.jpg

NOW TELL ME WHAT ZORAN NAME MEANS ?
WE HAVE ZORIAN (ЗОРЯН) NAME MEANING DAWN
WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL OTHER VERSIONS OF THE NAME

https://kakzovut.ru/names/zoryana.html

PS - CATALAN = GOTT ALAN
BARCELONA = BARS ALANA
French Bourbons had G2a Alanian happlogroup

The 3000 Serbs that Oric and his army killed that triggered a full on killing spree.
Thank Oric and the army for that.
(Sasa from Near Jagodina City, 24 October 2017 14:24)

Thank Oric and his army for killing 3000 Serbs?!! That's such a depraved and Serb-hating comment; shame on you for thanking somebody for killing thousands of Serbs!

lol, well, next step is for a "William walker" to set-up a "massacre" by the Spanish police and then the Catalans will be transferred from "terrorists" to "freedom fighters" and then the the Spanish government will be offered a "compromise" they will have to accept, which they can't or won't....the let the missles drop....Madrid will burn for about 78 days or so...then...WAALAA...INDEPENDENCE!!!

Didn't the Spanish government told the serb government to shut the hell up,mind your own business and don't talk at all about the Catalan issue?!
Or is just srb being a srb ,as always

@Watcher:
Are you still at it with these stupidities? The future of Spain and Catalonia will depend on how each of them will approach the problem, what actions they will or won't take. If Spain will start shelling and burning Catalan homes, start raping and pillaging, expelling to France 3-4 million Catalans (or nearly half of the population), and chasing the other half up in the mountains; if it will start filling refrigerated trucks with corpses of Catalan civilians or burying them in its military bases, then you're damn right, they will face European outrage and condemnation and you could be damn sure, they won't be able to hold on to Catalonia. So far none of that has happened. You theorizing and fantasizing about it just exposes your own sick mind.

Serbia on the other hand, did it's worst it could possibly do and suffered the consequences. No, dummy, it wasn't William Walker that caused you to lose Kosova, it was your own government filled to the brim with crazed war-criminals. It wasn't William Walker, who killed 8000 civilians at Srebrenica that your own protector Putin said it was a horrible massacre. It wasn't William Walker, who shelled Sarajevo marketplaces, and it wasn't William Walker that went door to door in Prishtina and every other town and village in Kosova to kick people out of their homes and onto deportation trains, in scenes that reminded Europe of the Holocaust. And that killed women, the old and the babies if they didn't move fast enough.

So being a NATO and EU member doesn't safeguard your sovereignty.

EU double standards - they opened the can of worms with the Kosovo precedent and many are now following. The cracks within the EU and NATO are just getting deeper.

When Catalonia becomes a quasi-entity, the door will be wide open. Republika Srpska will follow.

Didn't the Spanish government told the serb government to shut the hell up,mind your own business and don't talk at all about the Catalan issue?!
Or is just srb being a srb ,as always
(delon, 23 October 2017 16:43)

@ delon - No, just a Albanian being an Albanian, as always :) Never understanding how things work. You're a moron putting words in others mouth just to light some kind of fire, which is what you Albs on here are good at doing. Now go do your homework and try to understand how Madrid is working with BG...sheeesh, so shallow!!

ZORAN : When Catalonia becomes a quasi-entity ...

CAT ALANIA = GOTT ALANIA WAS A HORDE FORMED BY SOUTH RUSSIAN TRIBES FROM NORTHERN CAUCASUS AND CRIMEA. THEN THEY SEIZED SOUTH OF EUROPE INCLUDING PART OF BALKANS. AND IF YOU FIND G2A & RIB HAPPLOGROUPS IN YOUR BLOOD YOU MAY LOOK AT THEM THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THE RUSSIANS. PART OF THE SLAVS AND THE CAUCASIANS AS MAMELUKES CAME THERE IN 15 CENTURY FROM MAGRIB.

There was no Spain before 17 century and the peninsula was divided for provinces (hordes) with Castilia (White World) and Aragon (Black World) representing Rus Horde and autonomus Ottomans. In 1492 they divided the whole world between the two and nobody dared to mind because the whole wold belonged to them

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Тордесильясский_договор

Those were different cossacks and so they looked different :

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/eb/9c/b3/eb9cb3a414d75a845c41f4bb5b29fe8a.jpg
http://yuchansson.blogspot.ru/2017/02/blog-post_42.html?m=1
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мамлюки#/media/File:Mamluk.jpg
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мамлюки#/media/File:Three_Mamelukes_with_lances_on_horseback.jpg
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мамлюки#/media/File:Mamluke.jpg

NOW TELL ME WHAT ZORAN NAME MEANS ?
WE HAVE ZORIAN (ЗОРЯН) NAME MEANING DAWN
WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL OTHER VERSIONS OF THE NAME

https://kakzovut.ru/names/zoryana.html

PS - CATALAN = GOTT ALAN
BARCELONA = BARS ALANA
French Bourbons had G2a Alanian happlogroup

@Watcher:

Only the fact that you go to such lengths as to suggest that William Walker, an OSCE diplomat, would go to some remote village, to change the clothes of the victims of the Serbian criminal army, just to make Serbs look bad (because obviously, they had a spotless reputation up until that point), shows how corrupt your soul is from the evils of the Serbian nationalism. Really dude, really? How about bullet wounds, how about pools of blood, were those manufactured as well? Unbelievable!

well, next step is for a "William walker" to set-up a "massacre" by the Spanish police and then the Catalans will be transferred from "terrorists" to "freedom fighters" and then the the Spanish government will be offered a "compromise" they will have to accept, which they can't or won't....the let the missles drop....Madrid will burn for about 78 days or so...then...WAALAA...INDEPENDENCE!!!
(Watcher, 23 October 2017 15:42)

How Madrid burning for 78 days or 78 minutes has anything to do with anybody's independence, dear? It appears you had a bad night and/or some fever as you appear to be raving lol

The 3000 Serbs that Oric and his army killed that triggered a full on killing spree.
Thank Oric and the army for that.
(Sasa from Near Jagodina City, 24 October 2017 14:24)

Thank Oric and his army for killing 3000 Serbs?!! That's such a depraved and Serb-hating comment; shame on you for thanking somebody for killing thousands of Serbs!

@ (Sreten, 24 October 2017 07:57)
@ (Sreten, 24 October 2017 07:55)
@ (Sreten, 24 October 2017 07:54)

Dear, you might want to take a minute, collect your thoughts and express in a few sentences what your point is as you are really not making any sense with the rambling in your dissertation lol

You will find PUTIN talking about the 3000 civilians massacred in spring of 1992 .The 3000 Serbs that Oric and his army killed that triggered a full on killing spree. Thank Oric and the army for that.
(Sasa from Near Jagodina City, 24 October 2017 14:24)

THAT WAS HIS MEANING. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT SERBS WERE KILLED FIRST. THEN RATKO MADE HIS JOB.

@Therret Prizreni,

Very, very well said, well done, I know the truth hurts the Serbs but it's good you tell it to their face beacouse your English is so good.

Therret Prizreni,
William Walker is "OSCE diplomat"? And a person you find trustworthy?
Perhaps you could read a bit about this man's carrier...
He was involved previously in the Iran-Contra scandal in funding the covert U.S.-backed anti-government force in Nicaragua. Afterwards, he was appointed as U.S. ambassador to El Salvador, during which time the death squad activity against left-wing guerillas escalated.
Walker was U.S. ambassador to El Salvador in November 1989 when six leading Jesuit priests, their housekeeper, and her daughter were dragged from their beds and murdered by the Salvadoran Army.
The killings were carried out by the Atlacatl Battalion, which was recruited, trained, and deployed by the U.S. military, supposedly in order to improve the Salvadoran Army's human rights performance. The Atlacatl was responsible for the worst atrocities of the entire war.
Read more in New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/21/world/how-us-actions-helped-hide-salvador-human-rights-abuses.html?pagewanted=all

" The United Nations report speaks of hundreds of skeletons, including those of scores of children,.....describing piles of bodies and reports of of more than 700 victims. "

Did Walker say anything? No.

Withnesses from Salvador?

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/21/opinion/are-we-shielding-the-killers-of-salvador-s-priests.html

"When another Salvadoran source ventured forward with evidence, the response of U.S. officials could only be described as punitive. Lucia Barrera de Cerna, who witnessed the assault, was whisked off to Miami for four days of abusive questioning and threats of deportation by U.S. agents and a Salvadoran colonel - after Ambassador W A L K E R had offered her ''protection'' in the U.S. "

About murder of 6 PRIESTS?

"Ambassador W I L L I A M W A L K E R told Congressional investigators there was no evidence to implicate the military, and asserted, without foundation, that leftist rebels might have committed the act while dressed in soldiers' garb.
Now we learn that a U.S. Army major was told in December by a Salvadoran colonel, Carlos Armando Aviles, that the military was responsible. If U.S. officials are to be believed, the major inexplicably kept this to himself for 10 days."

There is all kind of things....nuns raped and shot in a head point blank with US officials suggesting that they might have run into a military roadblock and refused to stop!!!

Two reports were made about US involvement into El Salvador massacres, one by UN that is directly accusing MR WALKER for "complicity in and cover up of the massacres", and the US House investigative report that was less strongly worded.

"Mr. Moakley, whose own House investigation came to virtually the same findings as those of the United Nations commission, said on Thursday that the Bush Administration "was either involved in a cover-up or they had very incompetent and insensitive people."

This is the man you believe , Therett?
He is CIA / State Department man / abomination. What's really there doesn't matter. He will see what suits him to see, and won't what doesn't.

you appear to be raving 
(icj1, 23 October 2017 23:13)

---

Pot. Kettle. Black.
icj1, the CB of B92, should realize the reams of their daily drivel that include icj1's pathological depiction of entire populations with bigoted homogenous terms, icj1's double negatives, and icj1's flip-flops on what makes sense, have long ago solidly incriminated icj1 as B92's raving commentator.

PS CB = Chief Bigot




icj1
You keep missing my point. I remember you when I was "rambling" about Malysian plane being shot down over Ukraine (by someone) and newspapers asking for blood, and comparing it by US shooting down Iranian plane and entire crew being decorated for it.
You couldn't see my point either.

Thank Oric and his army for killing 3000 Serbs?!! That's such a depraved and Serb-hating comment; shame on you for thanking somebody for killing thousands of Serbs!
(icj1, 24 October 2017 14:55) #

That is not what I wrote .
I wrote Oric is to BLAME , not Thank, for the killings of 1992 that lead to killings of 1995, not Serbs.

@ (icj1, DD Month YYYY hh:mm)



icj1, the CB of B92, hasn't been able to formulate any semblance of coherent thought in a minute, hour, day, month or years. Reams of daily drivel that routinely use homogenous terms to brand an ethnic group of diverse people, continue to characterize the bigoted essence of icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot




. It wasn't William Walker, who killed 8000 civilians at Srebrenica that your own protector Putin said it was a horrible massacre. It wasn't William Walker, who shelled Sarajevo marketplaces, and it wasn't William Walker that went door to door in Prishtina and every other town and village in Kosova to kick people out of their homes and onto deportation trains, in scenes that reminded Europe of the Holocaust. And that killed women, the old and the babies if they didn't move fast enough.
(Therret Prizreni, 23 October 2017 22:39) #

You will find PUTIN talking about the 3000 civilians massacred in spring of 1992 .The 3000 Serbs that Oric and his army killed that triggered a full on killing spree.
Thank Oric and the army for that.

The 3000 Serbs that Oric and his army killed that triggered a full on killing spree.
Thank Oric and the army for that.
(Sasa from Near Jagodina City, 24 October 2017 14:24)

Thank Oric and his army for killing 3000 Serbs?!! That's such a depraved and Serb-hating comment; shame on you for thanking somebody for killing thousands of Serbs!
(icj1, 24 October 2017 14:55)

That is not what I wrote .
I wrote Oric is to BLAME , not Thank, for the killings of 1992
(Sasa from Near Jagodina City, 24 October 2017 17:04)

You wrote about "the 3000 Serbs that Oric and his army killed" followed by "Thank Oric and the army for that". So, you definitively wrote "Thank" and shame on you for thanking somebody for the killing of thousands of Serbs!