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Thursday, 19.10.2017.

11:42

"US received assurances Serbia won't send deminers to Syria"

The US supports Serbia on demining, and Serbia's needs come first, says a representative of the US embassy in Belgrade.

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

The mainstream news media and neocon warmongers in Washington love gullible sheep like Dwight, for he believes everything he sees on CNN, and probably has the memory span of a goldfish.
What Syria gas attack Dwight? The whole thing is a hoax. Hours after the so called 'chemical weapons attack', that birdbrain Nikki Haley was already blaming Assad before an investigation happened. When the Russians asked for an independent investigation, the US refused, and kept repeating the lie that Assad, who was winning the war and kicking butt, all of a sudden wanted to incite US intervention with a chemical weapons attack. Yeah, well the only people who believe this baseless theory are people like Dwight.
Dwight, do you remember the story about Iraqi soldiers ripping babies out of incubators, or that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, or that there were an estimated '500,000 dead albanians' killed by Serbs, or that Qaddafi was conducting a genocide against Lybians, or the Gulf of Tonkin....I bet you don't, but I do. Those were all proven lies, I repeat, PROVEN lies, which were made up in order to get the US into war (and make more money for the military-media industrial complex). This Syria gas attack is yet another of these false flag unproven hoaxes which the CIA makes up. Those are the facts, but brainless dummies like you can keep frying your brain by watching fake news CNN. There is a growing army of intelligent people who are getting real news though :)
Cheers!!

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Rote,
Apart from your fake history stories, all you do is repeat Russian media which is just Kremlin PR.
You watch your two minute hate each morning and then come here to repeat what you have been told to say.
You have previously told us that MH17 was full of frozen corpses and also that it was shot down with the help of Jews in some weird conspiracy to make Russia look bad. You have no ability to tell fact from fiction.

Ahrar Asham ended up with normal US weapons after they were stolen from FSA. Perhaps there is some other secret behind this, but shouting "EVERYBODY IN SYRIA KNOWS" is not proof of anything.
Why are you worried about US maybe supporting a group that maybe used chemical weapons? Russia supports Assad who has gassed over 1000 people and you have never complained about this once. There have been over 50 uses of Chemical Weapons in Syria and all have probably been by Assad. Even the 1-2 attacks that cannot be directly linked to Assad forces used chemical weapons stolen from Assad. Assad uses Russian made weapons to deliver this gas and Russia tries to derail any investigations into his chemical weapons.
Jihadi attempts at making chemical weapons seem to have all failed so far.

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sj

pre 6 godina

Why should I ask the Syrian people whether they want change?! It was the CE of B92 forums sj who wrote that "It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change", not the Syrian people lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 21 October 2017 03:35)


Perhaps you should read your previous rantings before commenting. Its you who mentioned the Syrian people not sj oh B92 laughing stock LOL.
Once again, keep it up the banal commentary since laughter is good for health reasons.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

No Dwight Dragan is just tired to explain you elementary things. I also am tired so put these words in your thick serbian head. No UN mandate is required in order for Serbia to send deminers in Syria. Maybe maybe a technical military agreement between two governments or maybe a decision from the parliament authorizing deployment of demining forces. "Militarily neutral" is at best a clause, a paragraph in Serbia's national strategy of defence stating Serbia is not part of any military alliance. I don't know if and who wanted to kill Vucic. I have all the reasons of this world to have my doubts on everything.

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

" Assad never gave sanctuary to jihadists because he was in the same danger as everyone else"

This is simple not true. Syria provided support, travel documents, safe houses and training to Al Qaeda etc who then attack neighbouring countries.

US had not been on good terms with Assad since he and Hezbollah had murdered several top Lebanese politicians. Since the Syrian army then withdrew from Lebanon, and the US had control of Iraq, US was willing to re-open relations with Assad. The US offered to reopen its embassy and help restore and increase Iraq/Syria pipelines if Assad stopped helping jihadis, Assad wanted more, US refused.
Assad would have known that jihadis would eventually attack him, but thought he could control them and/or that US would be forced to support him if this did happen.

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rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

f you want proof that the US was arming & funding ISIS & Al Qaeda, here it is:
[link]
(Dragan, 20 October 2017 13:22)

That link does not show anything that was approved by the US Congress, so it's not clear what proof you are referring to. Did you even read what that link says before posting it?! lol
(icj1, 21 October 2017 03:42)

THE DISPUTE IS USELESS AFTER THE DEPT. OF STATE ADMITTED THAT THE USA HAD HELPED AHRAR ASHAM THAT USED CHEMICAL ARMS IN SYRIA. EARLIER THIS BRANCH OF AL QAEDA WAS ALSO KNOWN AS JEBHAT AN NUSRA (FRONT OF VICTORY). EVERYBODY IN SYRIA KNOWS THAT THE USA PROVIDE THE JIHADIS WITH DIRECT MILITARY, FINANCIAL AND OTHER SUPPORT ATTACKING ASSAD'S TROOPS BEFORE THE BANDIT ATTACKS. NEITHER IT IS STILL A SECRET INSIDE THE USA. SO YOU BOTH WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING TO PROVE OR DISAPROVE THE EVIDENT.

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rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

@Dragan Watching videos of beheadings does not prove who supports them. From your posts it sounds more like it will just make me angry
(Dwight, 21 October 2017 10:31)

Dwight the only question I have is if you are a Serbophobe first or a Russophobe first and only then a Serbophobe. In fact it makes no difference and I would like you and to watch the Russian talk shows where on a dayly basis they discuss our resent history and current problems. Whatever contradictions the participant have - over the Yugoslavian crisiis they always have a concensus. So evident was your terror of Serbia. To say nothing that Serbia is always OUR CLOSEST PEOPLE IN EUROPE. So no matter what you spit here the Russians won't change their attitude. Besides they do know how in reality were the developments in Srebrenica, Pristina, Montenegro, Macedonia and other places. After we have accepted the challenge a couple of years ago your media proved it weakness when they have to oppose the truth based on facts but not on bare facts like I AM SURE, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, WE HAVE SECRET INFO, WE ARE GOING TO PROVE, SOME FACTS CAN BE INTERPRETED AS ect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Cemu1q9xY

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Dragan
Watching videos of beheadings does not prove who supports them. From your posts it sounds more like it will just make me angry

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icj1

pre 6 godina

It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change
(sj, 20 October 2017 12:23)

Are you saying that the Syrian people (whom the regime bombed with chemical weapons) love the regime and don't want it to change?! It sounds like in the parallel universe where the CE of B92 forums sj lives, bombing with chemical weapons is an act of love!
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 20 October 2017 13:19)

you have to ask the Syrian people whether they want change
(sj, 20 October 2017 14:12)

Why should I ask the Syrian people whether they want change?! It was the CE of B92 forums sj who wrote that "It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change", not the Syrian people lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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icj1

pre 6 godina

If you want proof that the US was arming & funding ISIS & Al Qaeda, here it is:
[link]
(Dragan, 20 October 2017 13:22)

That link does not show anything that was approved by the US Congress, so it's not clear what proof you are referring to. Did you even read what that link says before posting it?! lol

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sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 20 October 2017 10:45)

Actually, the US wanted change because it, Saudi Arabia UAE, Kuwait wanted to build pipelines to carry oil and gas to the Syrian coast.
Because of the problem posed by Iran in the Straits of Hormuz and the US mistrust of Erdogan.

Let me say that Assad never gave sanctuary to jihadists because he was in the same danger as everyone else where they were located. Remember that in Assad’s army he has minorities as well as large number of Christians.

Sadly, it’s the US that supports ISIS and other jihadists. It’s the US and Saudi Arabia that armed ISIS in Iraq. The US is now trying to force ISIS to relocate from Iraq to Syria and fight against Assad.

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

Dwight, I've done my research and know exactly what is going on in Syria - it's basically NATO/Saudi Arabia/ISIS/Al Qaeda/Israel versus Syria/Iran/Hezbollah/Russia. I've sent you links from a US congresswoman who is a veteran and on the armed services committee, and she's admitted that US is arming head chopping terrorists, I didn't even mention Sputnik or RT (although those are far more accurate sources than US mainstream media which is complete garbage).
You're obviously a clown who has no idea what he's talking about. You've sent links to HRW and Amnesty International, who are political organizations and Soros funded - that's a fact. Anything with Soros' fingerprints on it is globalist BS crap pushing his agenda. I suggest you look at all the ISIS videos online, of beheadings, crucifixions, burning people alive, eating hearts...etc....because these are the animals who the US is supporting, that's an indisputable fact. The yanks are on the wrong side of history, yet again. But all the scum they support are getting eliminated, and we should all rejoice for that.
Cheers!!

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@SJ When I say ISIS, I mean all jihadi-types including Al Qaeda. The people that were trained and supported by Assad's security services went on to have major roles in all the jihadi organisations.


@Dragan
You understanding of Syria seems to be got from reading a few Sputnik headlines, you should do a bit more research.
You have all the normal buzzwords - NATO lapdogs, secular Assad, head-choppers, puppets etc.
As much as I disagree with SJ sources, at least he reads more than the headlines


Assad does not have an army of any worth, he has Iranian army and Hezbollah. He has a decent airforce that is backed up by Russia
When the US was occupying Iraq, jihadi training camps were all in Syria and these terrorists were given freedom to pass the border to attack Americans.
America was on pretty good terms with Assad bafore that. He tried to use this as a bargaining chip with the USA - he would stop the jihadis if the US gave him more support - but it backfired, eventually USA turned on him and later Al Qaeda also.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2016/08/syria-torture-prisons/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/12/16/syria-stories-behind-photos-killed-detainees

I am pretty sure that if Assad behaved exactly the same but was an American ally you would not be praising him.

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sj

pre 6 godina

Are you saying that the Syrian people (whom the regime bombed with chemical weapons) love the regime and don't want it to change?! It sounds like in the parallel universe where the CE of B92 forums sj lives, bombing with chemical weapons is an act of love!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 20 October 2017 13:19)

Oh B92 laughing stock you have to ask the Syrian people whether they want change. I did not mention the Syrian people in the context of change since I am not clear what they might want, but since you are our laughing stock perhaps you can brighten things up and come out with an other of your famous quips that makes no sense except to you LOL.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change
(sj, 20 October 2017 12:23)

Are you saying that the Syrian people (whom the regime bombed with chemical weapons) love the regime and don't want it to change?! It sounds like in the parallel universe where the CE of B92 forums sj lives, bombing with chemical weapons is an act of love!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

Dwight,
Your post is so ignorant and stupid that I don't know where to start. So you think Assad was funding and arming ISIS & Al Qaeda?? So he's arming the very same terrorists his secular army (full of all minorities and Christians - whom ISIS wants to eradicate) has been fighting for the past 6 years? That's beyond ridiculous. The US has been arming and funding these monsters because you see, Assad is too free and independent (not a lapdog to NATO), and too friendly to Iran and Russia. Never mind that in Syria women and minorities have full rights, McCain and company prefer the head choppers so they can replace him with a puppet, and then go after their real target, Iran. If you want proof that the US was arming & funding ISIS & Al Qaeda, here it is:
https://gabbard.house.gov/news/StopArmingTerrorists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_8eFLcg8cY
That's coming from a US congresswoman, and it's no secret, everyone knows that the US, and their Saudi head chopping allies, are on the side of evil, and Russia is on the side of good. And here, the good is defeating the evil.
Cheers!!

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sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 20 October 2017 10:45)

Wrong. Assad was not arming nor did he ever arm, train or provide safe houses to ISIS fighters. ISIS is a very late comer to the Middle east scene. The people who Assad let pass through Syrian territory were not ISIS or Al Qaeda. As far as US losing troops in Iraq, that’s too bad since they were there illegally.

For your information both ISIS and Al Qaeda are funded principally by Saudi Arabia with help from the UAE. Why hasn’t Washington bombed Riyadh?

It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change in Syria so the US started to fund and train the so called Free Syrian army and what a disaster that has turned out for the Washing ton windbags.

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Dragan
"First, US armed and funded ISIS and Al Qaeda against the secular Syrian government"

Actually you have this wrong, the primary reason the USA went to Syria was nothing to do with any civil war, it was that Assad was funding and arming ISIS and providing safe houses and safe passage for these terrorists who were killing US soldiers in Iraq.

Many of the Syrian citizens who step on land mines will die as they cannot get medical treatment due to the Syrian army and Russian tactics of bombing any hospital not under Assad's control.

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Skenderbeu

No, there is a court in Greece investigating a bugging case. You then turn this into to a murder attempt on the Prime Minister of Greece then to some guns found in Belgrade then to an assassination attempt by the CIA on Vucic.
Someone bugged a phone in Greece makes you think that the CIA are trying to kill Vucic??????

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Jeff

pre 6 godina

It's only natural sappers would want to go where the action is.
Is serbia now not allowed to use its best in class skills where they are most needed?

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Here I am again doing better Dwight! In 2009 albania and greece signed their first continental shelf pact. Karamanlis in power in greece, berisha in albania. Successive leaks from wikiliks confirmed that the greek part had explicitly asked the albanian counterpart to "exclude" americans from the talks that would lead to the pact. In fact the pact was signed but declared uncostitutional by our constitutional court. Prior to that declaration Rama headed a whole campaign accusing Basha, then foreign minister and today opposition's leader of treason. Rama came to power shortly after and has always reminded berisha and basha of that "treason". If even uncle Soros believes wikiliks' leaks and this kind of "conspiracy theory" why wouldn't poor pea-sized brain Skenderbeu?!

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Debil some conspiracy theories say that some serbian guys are being currently processed in Greece for the murder of an american citizen. A greek court investigating on a well documented case is not a conspiracy theory mor debil and you just showed off that you don't have the slightest idea about what "neutrality" means. Of course I can always do better than this Dwight the problem is YOU can never do better than your comment below despite me always helping you..Now please B92 don't censor my comment partially. "Debil" in albanian means "very smart guy with enciclopedic mind and knowledge"!

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Skenderbeu 1444

Serbia cannot send deminers to help Russia becasue Serbia is a neutral country and would only demine as part of the UN. This is old news, I have no idea why B92 are printing it now.

Some conspiracy theorist says that CIA wanted to kill Greek Prime Minister in 2009 , therefore when some weapons were found in the same area as Vucic's parents house in 2017, it must have been the CIA trying to kill Vucic?
Come on , you are better than that, say it out loud and try not to laugh.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Dwight dont be stupid: Syria will soon need to be reconstructed, rebuilt from start. Being invited in a rather symbolic role to help russians demine Syria, can open the door to future opportunities for serb investors and enterprises. Serbia is free to opt out. As for the reasons why is Serbia opting out I have my hypothesis of course. This week's real news is what happened to the former greek PM Karamanlis. There's a court in Greece proving that there was a serious attempt to kill Karamanlis carried out by Cia and its greek operatives in Greece after Karamanlis's short romance with Putin. Now if you connect the dots and if you recall that Vucic disappeared a whole day and stayed home the day after a huge amount of arms were found on his way home, now you can understand what was Vucic doing the day he didnt go to work. FEAR Dwight, nobody is born a hero and Vucic has just become father again. After a mysterious car was about to hit his car in mysterious way, Vucic couldnt have any further doubts. Vucic is genial in promoting economic ties with any country in the planet: arabs, turks, albanians, swedish, austrian, germans, italians, everybody. In geopolitics Vucic is currently making a little turn. Nothing bad with that for Kremlin, there's a long line of regional players who have been longing to take Serbia's place in Putin's heart for such a long time..Next please: Beautiful Croatia! Next to next please: Beautiful and free and independent Kosova..

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iron knee

pre 6 godina

@icj1
And then what? Your constitution is not the word of God :)

What, the ICJ is the word of GOD? nope.
but it is the word of law, as is the constitution.

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

It seems the US wants secular Syrian citizens to be walking on mines and get their legs blown off. The neocon sociopaths who run the US are truly evil. First, they armed and funded ISIS and Al Qaeda against the secular Syrian government, then Russia stepped in and destroyed ISIS (with Iranian help), and Syrian Christians rejoiced as they would have been wiped out had the US had their way. Why wouldn't Serbia send its personnel to demine areas so that children can play and Syrian people can live normal lives? Only a sick and twisted hate monger, like those idiots who populate Washington think tanks, would be opposed to this.
Thank God for Russia, and thank God that McCain's head choppers are getting eradicated like the vermin that they are.
Cheers!!

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icj1

pre 6 godina

their definition of "entire territory" goes against our constitution.
(Zoran, 19 October 2017 12:07)

And then what? Your constitution is not the word of God :)

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rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Last week MoD of Russia made a clear statement that the USA fight rather on ISIS (= Al Qaeda of Iraq) and Jebhat an-Nusra (= Al Qaeda of Syria) side than on the side Russia led coalition (Hamas, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Shia milicia). So Serbia has to be careful not to mud itself.

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

Like the Ministry of Defense, we consider it important that the entire territory of Serbia is safe for life and trade," the US embassy representative said...
--
Please clarify "entire territory of Serbia". It's quite strange that someone from the US would use such language regarding Serbia as their definition of "entire territory" goes against our constitution. This really sounds arrogant and ignorant. Serbia should not have signed any deals with the devil.

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Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Serbia was "doing everything possible to preserve its independence and sovereignty." ???

USA is doing every thing possible to destroy Serbian independence, liberty and sovereignty !!!

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

It seems the US wants secular Syrian citizens to be walking on mines and get their legs blown off. The neocon sociopaths who run the US are truly evil. First, they armed and funded ISIS and Al Qaeda against the secular Syrian government, then Russia stepped in and destroyed ISIS (with Iranian help), and Syrian Christians rejoiced as they would have been wiped out had the US had their way. Why wouldn't Serbia send its personnel to demine areas so that children can play and Syrian people can live normal lives? Only a sick and twisted hate monger, like those idiots who populate Washington think tanks, would be opposed to this.
Thank God for Russia, and thank God that McCain's head choppers are getting eradicated like the vermin that they are.
Cheers!!

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Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Serbia was "doing everything possible to preserve its independence and sovereignty." ???

USA is doing every thing possible to destroy Serbian independence, liberty and sovereignty !!!

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

Like the Ministry of Defense, we consider it important that the entire territory of Serbia is safe for life and trade," the US embassy representative said...
--
Please clarify "entire territory of Serbia". It's quite strange that someone from the US would use such language regarding Serbia as their definition of "entire territory" goes against our constitution. This really sounds arrogant and ignorant. Serbia should not have signed any deals with the devil.

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

Dwight,
Your post is so ignorant and stupid that I don't know where to start. So you think Assad was funding and arming ISIS & Al Qaeda?? So he's arming the very same terrorists his secular army (full of all minorities and Christians - whom ISIS wants to eradicate) has been fighting for the past 6 years? That's beyond ridiculous. The US has been arming and funding these monsters because you see, Assad is too free and independent (not a lapdog to NATO), and too friendly to Iran and Russia. Never mind that in Syria women and minorities have full rights, McCain and company prefer the head choppers so they can replace him with a puppet, and then go after their real target, Iran. If you want proof that the US was arming & funding ISIS & Al Qaeda, here it is:
https://gabbard.house.gov/news/StopArmingTerrorists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_8eFLcg8cY
That's coming from a US congresswoman, and it's no secret, everyone knows that the US, and their Saudi head chopping allies, are on the side of evil, and Russia is on the side of good. And here, the good is defeating the evil.
Cheers!!

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

Dwight, I've done my research and know exactly what is going on in Syria - it's basically NATO/Saudi Arabia/ISIS/Al Qaeda/Israel versus Syria/Iran/Hezbollah/Russia. I've sent you links from a US congresswoman who is a veteran and on the armed services committee, and she's admitted that US is arming head chopping terrorists, I didn't even mention Sputnik or RT (although those are far more accurate sources than US mainstream media which is complete garbage).
You're obviously a clown who has no idea what he's talking about. You've sent links to HRW and Amnesty International, who are political organizations and Soros funded - that's a fact. Anything with Soros' fingerprints on it is globalist BS crap pushing his agenda. I suggest you look at all the ISIS videos online, of beheadings, crucifixions, burning people alive, eating hearts...etc....because these are the animals who the US is supporting, that's an indisputable fact. The yanks are on the wrong side of history, yet again. But all the scum they support are getting eliminated, and we should all rejoice for that.
Cheers!!

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Skenderbeu 1444

Serbia cannot send deminers to help Russia becasue Serbia is a neutral country and would only demine as part of the UN. This is old news, I have no idea why B92 are printing it now.

Some conspiracy theorist says that CIA wanted to kill Greek Prime Minister in 2009 , therefore when some weapons were found in the same area as Vucic's parents house in 2017, it must have been the CIA trying to kill Vucic?
Come on , you are better than that, say it out loud and try not to laugh.

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

The mainstream news media and neocon warmongers in Washington love gullible sheep like Dwight, for he believes everything he sees on CNN, and probably has the memory span of a goldfish.
What Syria gas attack Dwight? The whole thing is a hoax. Hours after the so called 'chemical weapons attack', that birdbrain Nikki Haley was already blaming Assad before an investigation happened. When the Russians asked for an independent investigation, the US refused, and kept repeating the lie that Assad, who was winning the war and kicking butt, all of a sudden wanted to incite US intervention with a chemical weapons attack. Yeah, well the only people who believe this baseless theory are people like Dwight.
Dwight, do you remember the story about Iraqi soldiers ripping babies out of incubators, or that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, or that there were an estimated '500,000 dead albanians' killed by Serbs, or that Qaddafi was conducting a genocide against Lybians, or the Gulf of Tonkin....I bet you don't, but I do. Those were all proven lies, I repeat, PROVEN lies, which were made up in order to get the US into war (and make more money for the military-media industrial complex). This Syria gas attack is yet another of these false flag unproven hoaxes which the CIA makes up. Those are the facts, but brainless dummies like you can keep frying your brain by watching fake news CNN. There is a growing army of intelligent people who are getting real news though :)
Cheers!!

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rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Last week MoD of Russia made a clear statement that the USA fight rather on ISIS (= Al Qaeda of Iraq) and Jebhat an-Nusra (= Al Qaeda of Syria) side than on the side Russia led coalition (Hamas, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Shia milicia). So Serbia has to be careful not to mud itself.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

their definition of "entire territory" goes against our constitution.
(Zoran, 19 October 2017 12:07)

And then what? Your constitution is not the word of God :)

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Dwight dont be stupid: Syria will soon need to be reconstructed, rebuilt from start. Being invited in a rather symbolic role to help russians demine Syria, can open the door to future opportunities for serb investors and enterprises. Serbia is free to opt out. As for the reasons why is Serbia opting out I have my hypothesis of course. This week's real news is what happened to the former greek PM Karamanlis. There's a court in Greece proving that there was a serious attempt to kill Karamanlis carried out by Cia and its greek operatives in Greece after Karamanlis's short romance with Putin. Now if you connect the dots and if you recall that Vucic disappeared a whole day and stayed home the day after a huge amount of arms were found on his way home, now you can understand what was Vucic doing the day he didnt go to work. FEAR Dwight, nobody is born a hero and Vucic has just become father again. After a mysterious car was about to hit his car in mysterious way, Vucic couldnt have any further doubts. Vucic is genial in promoting economic ties with any country in the planet: arabs, turks, albanians, swedish, austrian, germans, italians, everybody. In geopolitics Vucic is currently making a little turn. Nothing bad with that for Kremlin, there's a long line of regional players who have been longing to take Serbia's place in Putin's heart for such a long time..Next please: Beautiful Croatia! Next to next please: Beautiful and free and independent Kosova..

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iron knee

pre 6 godina

@icj1
And then what? Your constitution is not the word of God :)

What, the ICJ is the word of GOD? nope.
but it is the word of law, as is the constitution.

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Jeff

pre 6 godina

It's only natural sappers would want to go where the action is.
Is serbia now not allowed to use its best in class skills where they are most needed?

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sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 20 October 2017 10:45)

Wrong. Assad was not arming nor did he ever arm, train or provide safe houses to ISIS fighters. ISIS is a very late comer to the Middle east scene. The people who Assad let pass through Syrian territory were not ISIS or Al Qaeda. As far as US losing troops in Iraq, that’s too bad since they were there illegally.

For your information both ISIS and Al Qaeda are funded principally by Saudi Arabia with help from the UAE. Why hasn’t Washington bombed Riyadh?

It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change in Syria so the US started to fund and train the so called Free Syrian army and what a disaster that has turned out for the Washing ton windbags.

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@SJ When I say ISIS, I mean all jihadi-types including Al Qaeda. The people that were trained and supported by Assad's security services went on to have major roles in all the jihadi organisations.


@Dragan
You understanding of Syria seems to be got from reading a few Sputnik headlines, you should do a bit more research.
You have all the normal buzzwords - NATO lapdogs, secular Assad, head-choppers, puppets etc.
As much as I disagree with SJ sources, at least he reads more than the headlines


Assad does not have an army of any worth, he has Iranian army and Hezbollah. He has a decent airforce that is backed up by Russia
When the US was occupying Iraq, jihadi training camps were all in Syria and these terrorists were given freedom to pass the border to attack Americans.
America was on pretty good terms with Assad bafore that. He tried to use this as a bargaining chip with the USA - he would stop the jihadis if the US gave him more support - but it backfired, eventually USA turned on him and later Al Qaeda also.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2016/08/syria-torture-prisons/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/12/16/syria-stories-behind-photos-killed-detainees

I am pretty sure that if Assad behaved exactly the same but was an American ally you would not be praising him.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Here I am again doing better Dwight! In 2009 albania and greece signed their first continental shelf pact. Karamanlis in power in greece, berisha in albania. Successive leaks from wikiliks confirmed that the greek part had explicitly asked the albanian counterpart to "exclude" americans from the talks that would lead to the pact. In fact the pact was signed but declared uncostitutional by our constitutional court. Prior to that declaration Rama headed a whole campaign accusing Basha, then foreign minister and today opposition's leader of treason. Rama came to power shortly after and has always reminded berisha and basha of that "treason". If even uncle Soros believes wikiliks' leaks and this kind of "conspiracy theory" why wouldn't poor pea-sized brain Skenderbeu?!

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Skenderbeu

No, there is a court in Greece investigating a bugging case. You then turn this into to a murder attempt on the Prime Minister of Greece then to some guns found in Belgrade then to an assassination attempt by the CIA on Vucic.
Someone bugged a phone in Greece makes you think that the CIA are trying to kill Vucic??????

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sj

pre 6 godina

Are you saying that the Syrian people (whom the regime bombed with chemical weapons) love the regime and don't want it to change?! It sounds like in the parallel universe where the CE of B92 forums sj lives, bombing with chemical weapons is an act of love!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 20 October 2017 13:19)

Oh B92 laughing stock you have to ask the Syrian people whether they want change. I did not mention the Syrian people in the context of change since I am not clear what they might want, but since you are our laughing stock perhaps you can brighten things up and come out with an other of your famous quips that makes no sense except to you LOL.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 20 October 2017 10:45)

Actually, the US wanted change because it, Saudi Arabia UAE, Kuwait wanted to build pipelines to carry oil and gas to the Syrian coast.
Because of the problem posed by Iran in the Straits of Hormuz and the US mistrust of Erdogan.

Let me say that Assad never gave sanctuary to jihadists because he was in the same danger as everyone else where they were located. Remember that in Assad’s army he has minorities as well as large number of Christians.

Sadly, it’s the US that supports ISIS and other jihadists. It’s the US and Saudi Arabia that armed ISIS in Iraq. The US is now trying to force ISIS to relocate from Iraq to Syria and fight against Assad.

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rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

@Dragan Watching videos of beheadings does not prove who supports them. From your posts it sounds more like it will just make me angry
(Dwight, 21 October 2017 10:31)

Dwight the only question I have is if you are a Serbophobe first or a Russophobe first and only then a Serbophobe. In fact it makes no difference and I would like you and to watch the Russian talk shows where on a dayly basis they discuss our resent history and current problems. Whatever contradictions the participant have - over the Yugoslavian crisiis they always have a concensus. So evident was your terror of Serbia. To say nothing that Serbia is always OUR CLOSEST PEOPLE IN EUROPE. So no matter what you spit here the Russians won't change their attitude. Besides they do know how in reality were the developments in Srebrenica, Pristina, Montenegro, Macedonia and other places. After we have accepted the challenge a couple of years ago your media proved it weakness when they have to oppose the truth based on facts but not on bare facts like I AM SURE, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, WE HAVE SECRET INFO, WE ARE GOING TO PROVE, SOME FACTS CAN BE INTERPRETED AS ect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Cemu1q9xY

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rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

f you want proof that the US was arming & funding ISIS & Al Qaeda, here it is:
[link]
(Dragan, 20 October 2017 13:22)

That link does not show anything that was approved by the US Congress, so it's not clear what proof you are referring to. Did you even read what that link says before posting it?! lol
(icj1, 21 October 2017 03:42)

THE DISPUTE IS USELESS AFTER THE DEPT. OF STATE ADMITTED THAT THE USA HAD HELPED AHRAR ASHAM THAT USED CHEMICAL ARMS IN SYRIA. EARLIER THIS BRANCH OF AL QAEDA WAS ALSO KNOWN AS JEBHAT AN NUSRA (FRONT OF VICTORY). EVERYBODY IN SYRIA KNOWS THAT THE USA PROVIDE THE JIHADIS WITH DIRECT MILITARY, FINANCIAL AND OTHER SUPPORT ATTACKING ASSAD'S TROOPS BEFORE THE BANDIT ATTACKS. NEITHER IT IS STILL A SECRET INSIDE THE USA. SO YOU BOTH WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING TO PROVE OR DISAPROVE THE EVIDENT.

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sj

pre 6 godina

Why should I ask the Syrian people whether they want change?! It was the CE of B92 forums sj who wrote that "It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change", not the Syrian people lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 21 October 2017 03:35)


Perhaps you should read your previous rantings before commenting. Its you who mentioned the Syrian people not sj oh B92 laughing stock LOL.
Once again, keep it up the banal commentary since laughter is good for health reasons.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Debil some conspiracy theories say that some serbian guys are being currently processed in Greece for the murder of an american citizen. A greek court investigating on a well documented case is not a conspiracy theory mor debil and you just showed off that you don't have the slightest idea about what "neutrality" means. Of course I can always do better than this Dwight the problem is YOU can never do better than your comment below despite me always helping you..Now please B92 don't censor my comment partially. "Debil" in albanian means "very smart guy with enciclopedic mind and knowledge"!

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Dragan
"First, US armed and funded ISIS and Al Qaeda against the secular Syrian government"

Actually you have this wrong, the primary reason the USA went to Syria was nothing to do with any civil war, it was that Assad was funding and arming ISIS and providing safe houses and safe passage for these terrorists who were killing US soldiers in Iraq.

Many of the Syrian citizens who step on land mines will die as they cannot get medical treatment due to the Syrian army and Russian tactics of bombing any hospital not under Assad's control.

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Dragan
Watching videos of beheadings does not prove who supports them. From your posts it sounds more like it will just make me angry

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

No Dwight Dragan is just tired to explain you elementary things. I also am tired so put these words in your thick serbian head. No UN mandate is required in order for Serbia to send deminers in Syria. Maybe maybe a technical military agreement between two governments or maybe a decision from the parliament authorizing deployment of demining forces. "Militarily neutral" is at best a clause, a paragraph in Serbia's national strategy of defence stating Serbia is not part of any military alliance. I don't know if and who wanted to kill Vucic. I have all the reasons of this world to have my doubts on everything.

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Rote,
Apart from your fake history stories, all you do is repeat Russian media which is just Kremlin PR.
You watch your two minute hate each morning and then come here to repeat what you have been told to say.
You have previously told us that MH17 was full of frozen corpses and also that it was shot down with the help of Jews in some weird conspiracy to make Russia look bad. You have no ability to tell fact from fiction.

Ahrar Asham ended up with normal US weapons after they were stolen from FSA. Perhaps there is some other secret behind this, but shouting "EVERYBODY IN SYRIA KNOWS" is not proof of anything.
Why are you worried about US maybe supporting a group that maybe used chemical weapons? Russia supports Assad who has gassed over 1000 people and you have never complained about this once. There have been over 50 uses of Chemical Weapons in Syria and all have probably been by Assad. Even the 1-2 attacks that cannot be directly linked to Assad forces used chemical weapons stolen from Assad. Assad uses Russian made weapons to deliver this gas and Russia tries to derail any investigations into his chemical weapons.
Jihadi attempts at making chemical weapons seem to have all failed so far.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change
(sj, 20 October 2017 12:23)

Are you saying that the Syrian people (whom the regime bombed with chemical weapons) love the regime and don't want it to change?! It sounds like in the parallel universe where the CE of B92 forums sj lives, bombing with chemical weapons is an act of love!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

" Assad never gave sanctuary to jihadists because he was in the same danger as everyone else"

This is simple not true. Syria provided support, travel documents, safe houses and training to Al Qaeda etc who then attack neighbouring countries.

US had not been on good terms with Assad since he and Hezbollah had murdered several top Lebanese politicians. Since the Syrian army then withdrew from Lebanon, and the US had control of Iraq, US was willing to re-open relations with Assad. The US offered to reopen its embassy and help restore and increase Iraq/Syria pipelines if Assad stopped helping jihadis, Assad wanted more, US refused.
Assad would have known that jihadis would eventually attack him, but thought he could control them and/or that US would be forced to support him if this did happen.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change
(sj, 20 October 2017 12:23)

Are you saying that the Syrian people (whom the regime bombed with chemical weapons) love the regime and don't want it to change?! It sounds like in the parallel universe where the CE of B92 forums sj lives, bombing with chemical weapons is an act of love!
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 20 October 2017 13:19)

you have to ask the Syrian people whether they want change
(sj, 20 October 2017 14:12)

Why should I ask the Syrian people whether they want change?! It was the CE of B92 forums sj who wrote that "It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change", not the Syrian people lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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icj1

pre 6 godina

If you want proof that the US was arming & funding ISIS & Al Qaeda, here it is:
[link]
(Dragan, 20 October 2017 13:22)

That link does not show anything that was approved by the US Congress, so it's not clear what proof you are referring to. Did you even read what that link says before posting it?! lol

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rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Last week MoD of Russia made a clear statement that the USA fight rather on ISIS (= Al Qaeda of Iraq) and Jebhat an-Nusra (= Al Qaeda of Syria) side than on the side Russia led coalition (Hamas, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Shia milicia). So Serbia has to be careful not to mud itself.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

their definition of "entire territory" goes against our constitution.
(Zoran, 19 October 2017 12:07)

And then what? Your constitution is not the word of God :)

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

It seems the US wants secular Syrian citizens to be walking on mines and get their legs blown off. The neocon sociopaths who run the US are truly evil. First, they armed and funded ISIS and Al Qaeda against the secular Syrian government, then Russia stepped in and destroyed ISIS (with Iranian help), and Syrian Christians rejoiced as they would have been wiped out had the US had their way. Why wouldn't Serbia send its personnel to demine areas so that children can play and Syrian people can live normal lives? Only a sick and twisted hate monger, like those idiots who populate Washington think tanks, would be opposed to this.
Thank God for Russia, and thank God that McCain's head choppers are getting eradicated like the vermin that they are.
Cheers!!

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

Like the Ministry of Defense, we consider it important that the entire territory of Serbia is safe for life and trade," the US embassy representative said...
--
Please clarify "entire territory of Serbia". It's quite strange that someone from the US would use such language regarding Serbia as their definition of "entire territory" goes against our constitution. This really sounds arrogant and ignorant. Serbia should not have signed any deals with the devil.

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Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Serbia was "doing everything possible to preserve its independence and sovereignty." ???

USA is doing every thing possible to destroy Serbian independence, liberty and sovereignty !!!

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Dwight dont be stupid: Syria will soon need to be reconstructed, rebuilt from start. Being invited in a rather symbolic role to help russians demine Syria, can open the door to future opportunities for serb investors and enterprises. Serbia is free to opt out. As for the reasons why is Serbia opting out I have my hypothesis of course. This week's real news is what happened to the former greek PM Karamanlis. There's a court in Greece proving that there was a serious attempt to kill Karamanlis carried out by Cia and its greek operatives in Greece after Karamanlis's short romance with Putin. Now if you connect the dots and if you recall that Vucic disappeared a whole day and stayed home the day after a huge amount of arms were found on his way home, now you can understand what was Vucic doing the day he didnt go to work. FEAR Dwight, nobody is born a hero and Vucic has just become father again. After a mysterious car was about to hit his car in mysterious way, Vucic couldnt have any further doubts. Vucic is genial in promoting economic ties with any country in the planet: arabs, turks, albanians, swedish, austrian, germans, italians, everybody. In geopolitics Vucic is currently making a little turn. Nothing bad with that for Kremlin, there's a long line of regional players who have been longing to take Serbia's place in Putin's heart for such a long time..Next please: Beautiful Croatia! Next to next please: Beautiful and free and independent Kosova..

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@SJ When I say ISIS, I mean all jihadi-types including Al Qaeda. The people that were trained and supported by Assad's security services went on to have major roles in all the jihadi organisations.


@Dragan
You understanding of Syria seems to be got from reading a few Sputnik headlines, you should do a bit more research.
You have all the normal buzzwords - NATO lapdogs, secular Assad, head-choppers, puppets etc.
As much as I disagree with SJ sources, at least he reads more than the headlines


Assad does not have an army of any worth, he has Iranian army and Hezbollah. He has a decent airforce that is backed up by Russia
When the US was occupying Iraq, jihadi training camps were all in Syria and these terrorists were given freedom to pass the border to attack Americans.
America was on pretty good terms with Assad bafore that. He tried to use this as a bargaining chip with the USA - he would stop the jihadis if the US gave him more support - but it backfired, eventually USA turned on him and later Al Qaeda also.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2016/08/syria-torture-prisons/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/12/16/syria-stories-behind-photos-killed-detainees

I am pretty sure that if Assad behaved exactly the same but was an American ally you would not be praising him.

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Dragan
"First, US armed and funded ISIS and Al Qaeda against the secular Syrian government"

Actually you have this wrong, the primary reason the USA went to Syria was nothing to do with any civil war, it was that Assad was funding and arming ISIS and providing safe houses and safe passage for these terrorists who were killing US soldiers in Iraq.

Many of the Syrian citizens who step on land mines will die as they cannot get medical treatment due to the Syrian army and Russian tactics of bombing any hospital not under Assad's control.

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iron knee

pre 6 godina

@icj1
And then what? Your constitution is not the word of God :)

What, the ICJ is the word of GOD? nope.
but it is the word of law, as is the constitution.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Here I am again doing better Dwight! In 2009 albania and greece signed their first continental shelf pact. Karamanlis in power in greece, berisha in albania. Successive leaks from wikiliks confirmed that the greek part had explicitly asked the albanian counterpart to "exclude" americans from the talks that would lead to the pact. In fact the pact was signed but declared uncostitutional by our constitutional court. Prior to that declaration Rama headed a whole campaign accusing Basha, then foreign minister and today opposition's leader of treason. Rama came to power shortly after and has always reminded berisha and basha of that "treason". If even uncle Soros believes wikiliks' leaks and this kind of "conspiracy theory" why wouldn't poor pea-sized brain Skenderbeu?!

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Skenderbeu 1444

Serbia cannot send deminers to help Russia becasue Serbia is a neutral country and would only demine as part of the UN. This is old news, I have no idea why B92 are printing it now.

Some conspiracy theorist says that CIA wanted to kill Greek Prime Minister in 2009 , therefore when some weapons were found in the same area as Vucic's parents house in 2017, it must have been the CIA trying to kill Vucic?
Come on , you are better than that, say it out loud and try not to laugh.

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

Dwight,
Your post is so ignorant and stupid that I don't know where to start. So you think Assad was funding and arming ISIS & Al Qaeda?? So he's arming the very same terrorists his secular army (full of all minorities and Christians - whom ISIS wants to eradicate) has been fighting for the past 6 years? That's beyond ridiculous. The US has been arming and funding these monsters because you see, Assad is too free and independent (not a lapdog to NATO), and too friendly to Iran and Russia. Never mind that in Syria women and minorities have full rights, McCain and company prefer the head choppers so they can replace him with a puppet, and then go after their real target, Iran. If you want proof that the US was arming & funding ISIS & Al Qaeda, here it is:
https://gabbard.house.gov/news/StopArmingTerrorists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_8eFLcg8cY
That's coming from a US congresswoman, and it's no secret, everyone knows that the US, and their Saudi head chopping allies, are on the side of evil, and Russia is on the side of good. And here, the good is defeating the evil.
Cheers!!

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icj1

pre 6 godina

It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change
(sj, 20 October 2017 12:23)

Are you saying that the Syrian people (whom the regime bombed with chemical weapons) love the regime and don't want it to change?! It sounds like in the parallel universe where the CE of B92 forums sj lives, bombing with chemical weapons is an act of love!
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 20 October 2017 13:19)

you have to ask the Syrian people whether they want change
(sj, 20 October 2017 14:12)

Why should I ask the Syrian people whether they want change?! It was the CE of B92 forums sj who wrote that "It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change", not the Syrian people lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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icj1

pre 6 godina

If you want proof that the US was arming & funding ISIS & Al Qaeda, here it is:
[link]
(Dragan, 20 October 2017 13:22)

That link does not show anything that was approved by the US Congress, so it's not clear what proof you are referring to. Did you even read what that link says before posting it?! lol

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Dragan
Watching videos of beheadings does not prove who supports them. From your posts it sounds more like it will just make me angry

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Rote,
Apart from your fake history stories, all you do is repeat Russian media which is just Kremlin PR.
You watch your two minute hate each morning and then come here to repeat what you have been told to say.
You have previously told us that MH17 was full of frozen corpses and also that it was shot down with the help of Jews in some weird conspiracy to make Russia look bad. You have no ability to tell fact from fiction.

Ahrar Asham ended up with normal US weapons after they were stolen from FSA. Perhaps there is some other secret behind this, but shouting "EVERYBODY IN SYRIA KNOWS" is not proof of anything.
Why are you worried about US maybe supporting a group that maybe used chemical weapons? Russia supports Assad who has gassed over 1000 people and you have never complained about this once. There have been over 50 uses of Chemical Weapons in Syria and all have probably been by Assad. Even the 1-2 attacks that cannot be directly linked to Assad forces used chemical weapons stolen from Assad. Assad uses Russian made weapons to deliver this gas and Russia tries to derail any investigations into his chemical weapons.
Jihadi attempts at making chemical weapons seem to have all failed so far.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Debil some conspiracy theories say that some serbian guys are being currently processed in Greece for the murder of an american citizen. A greek court investigating on a well documented case is not a conspiracy theory mor debil and you just showed off that you don't have the slightest idea about what "neutrality" means. Of course I can always do better than this Dwight the problem is YOU can never do better than your comment below despite me always helping you..Now please B92 don't censor my comment partially. "Debil" in albanian means "very smart guy with enciclopedic mind and knowledge"!

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

Dwight, I've done my research and know exactly what is going on in Syria - it's basically NATO/Saudi Arabia/ISIS/Al Qaeda/Israel versus Syria/Iran/Hezbollah/Russia. I've sent you links from a US congresswoman who is a veteran and on the armed services committee, and she's admitted that US is arming head chopping terrorists, I didn't even mention Sputnik or RT (although those are far more accurate sources than US mainstream media which is complete garbage).
You're obviously a clown who has no idea what he's talking about. You've sent links to HRW and Amnesty International, who are political organizations and Soros funded - that's a fact. Anything with Soros' fingerprints on it is globalist BS crap pushing his agenda. I suggest you look at all the ISIS videos online, of beheadings, crucifixions, burning people alive, eating hearts...etc....because these are the animals who the US is supporting, that's an indisputable fact. The yanks are on the wrong side of history, yet again. But all the scum they support are getting eliminated, and we should all rejoice for that.
Cheers!!

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

" Assad never gave sanctuary to jihadists because he was in the same danger as everyone else"

This is simple not true. Syria provided support, travel documents, safe houses and training to Al Qaeda etc who then attack neighbouring countries.

US had not been on good terms with Assad since he and Hezbollah had murdered several top Lebanese politicians. Since the Syrian army then withdrew from Lebanon, and the US had control of Iraq, US was willing to re-open relations with Assad. The US offered to reopen its embassy and help restore and increase Iraq/Syria pipelines if Assad stopped helping jihadis, Assad wanted more, US refused.
Assad would have known that jihadis would eventually attack him, but thought he could control them and/or that US would be forced to support him if this did happen.

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rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

f you want proof that the US was arming & funding ISIS & Al Qaeda, here it is:
[link]
(Dragan, 20 October 2017 13:22)

That link does not show anything that was approved by the US Congress, so it's not clear what proof you are referring to. Did you even read what that link says before posting it?! lol
(icj1, 21 October 2017 03:42)

THE DISPUTE IS USELESS AFTER THE DEPT. OF STATE ADMITTED THAT THE USA HAD HELPED AHRAR ASHAM THAT USED CHEMICAL ARMS IN SYRIA. EARLIER THIS BRANCH OF AL QAEDA WAS ALSO KNOWN AS JEBHAT AN NUSRA (FRONT OF VICTORY). EVERYBODY IN SYRIA KNOWS THAT THE USA PROVIDE THE JIHADIS WITH DIRECT MILITARY, FINANCIAL AND OTHER SUPPORT ATTACKING ASSAD'S TROOPS BEFORE THE BANDIT ATTACKS. NEITHER IT IS STILL A SECRET INSIDE THE USA. SO YOU BOTH WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING TO PROVE OR DISAPROVE THE EVIDENT.

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Dragan

pre 6 godina

The mainstream news media and neocon warmongers in Washington love gullible sheep like Dwight, for he believes everything he sees on CNN, and probably has the memory span of a goldfish.
What Syria gas attack Dwight? The whole thing is a hoax. Hours after the so called 'chemical weapons attack', that birdbrain Nikki Haley was already blaming Assad before an investigation happened. When the Russians asked for an independent investigation, the US refused, and kept repeating the lie that Assad, who was winning the war and kicking butt, all of a sudden wanted to incite US intervention with a chemical weapons attack. Yeah, well the only people who believe this baseless theory are people like Dwight.
Dwight, do you remember the story about Iraqi soldiers ripping babies out of incubators, or that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, or that there were an estimated '500,000 dead albanians' killed by Serbs, or that Qaddafi was conducting a genocide against Lybians, or the Gulf of Tonkin....I bet you don't, but I do. Those were all proven lies, I repeat, PROVEN lies, which were made up in order to get the US into war (and make more money for the military-media industrial complex). This Syria gas attack is yet another of these false flag unproven hoaxes which the CIA makes up. Those are the facts, but brainless dummies like you can keep frying your brain by watching fake news CNN. There is a growing army of intelligent people who are getting real news though :)
Cheers!!

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Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Skenderbeu

No, there is a court in Greece investigating a bugging case. You then turn this into to a murder attempt on the Prime Minister of Greece then to some guns found in Belgrade then to an assassination attempt by the CIA on Vucic.
Someone bugged a phone in Greece makes you think that the CIA are trying to kill Vucic??????

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icj1

pre 6 godina

It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change
(sj, 20 October 2017 12:23)

Are you saying that the Syrian people (whom the regime bombed with chemical weapons) love the regime and don't want it to change?! It sounds like in the parallel universe where the CE of B92 forums sj lives, bombing with chemical weapons is an act of love!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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sj

pre 6 godina

Are you saying that the Syrian people (whom the regime bombed with chemical weapons) love the regime and don't want it to change?! It sounds like in the parallel universe where the CE of B92 forums sj lives, bombing with chemical weapons is an act of love!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 20 October 2017 13:19)

Oh B92 laughing stock you have to ask the Syrian people whether they want change. I did not mention the Syrian people in the context of change since I am not clear what they might want, but since you are our laughing stock perhaps you can brighten things up and come out with an other of your famous quips that makes no sense except to you LOL.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 20 October 2017 10:45)

Actually, the US wanted change because it, Saudi Arabia UAE, Kuwait wanted to build pipelines to carry oil and gas to the Syrian coast.
Because of the problem posed by Iran in the Straits of Hormuz and the US mistrust of Erdogan.

Let me say that Assad never gave sanctuary to jihadists because he was in the same danger as everyone else where they were located. Remember that in Assad’s army he has minorities as well as large number of Christians.

Sadly, it’s the US that supports ISIS and other jihadists. It’s the US and Saudi Arabia that armed ISIS in Iraq. The US is now trying to force ISIS to relocate from Iraq to Syria and fight against Assad.

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sj

pre 6 godina

Why should I ask the Syrian people whether they want change?! It was the CE of B92 forums sj who wrote that "It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change", not the Syrian people lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 21 October 2017 03:35)


Perhaps you should read your previous rantings before commenting. Its you who mentioned the Syrian people not sj oh B92 laughing stock LOL.
Once again, keep it up the banal commentary since laughter is good for health reasons.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(Dwight, 20 October 2017 10:45)

Wrong. Assad was not arming nor did he ever arm, train or provide safe houses to ISIS fighters. ISIS is a very late comer to the Middle east scene. The people who Assad let pass through Syrian territory were not ISIS or Al Qaeda. As far as US losing troops in Iraq, that’s too bad since they were there illegally.

For your information both ISIS and Al Qaeda are funded principally by Saudi Arabia with help from the UAE. Why hasn’t Washington bombed Riyadh?

It was the US and Israel that wanted regime change in Syria so the US started to fund and train the so called Free Syrian army and what a disaster that has turned out for the Washing ton windbags.

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Skenderbeu 1444

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No Dwight Dragan is just tired to explain you elementary things. I also am tired so put these words in your thick serbian head. No UN mandate is required in order for Serbia to send deminers in Syria. Maybe maybe a technical military agreement between two governments or maybe a decision from the parliament authorizing deployment of demining forces. "Militarily neutral" is at best a clause, a paragraph in Serbia's national strategy of defence stating Serbia is not part of any military alliance. I don't know if and who wanted to kill Vucic. I have all the reasons of this world to have my doubts on everything.

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Jeff

pre 6 godina

It's only natural sappers would want to go where the action is.
Is serbia now not allowed to use its best in class skills where they are most needed?

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rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

@Dragan Watching videos of beheadings does not prove who supports them. From your posts it sounds more like it will just make me angry
(Dwight, 21 October 2017 10:31)

Dwight the only question I have is if you are a Serbophobe first or a Russophobe first and only then a Serbophobe. In fact it makes no difference and I would like you and to watch the Russian talk shows where on a dayly basis they discuss our resent history and current problems. Whatever contradictions the participant have - over the Yugoslavian crisiis they always have a concensus. So evident was your terror of Serbia. To say nothing that Serbia is always OUR CLOSEST PEOPLE IN EUROPE. So no matter what you spit here the Russians won't change their attitude. Besides they do know how in reality were the developments in Srebrenica, Pristina, Montenegro, Macedonia and other places. After we have accepted the challenge a couple of years ago your media proved it weakness when they have to oppose the truth based on facts but not on bare facts like I AM SURE, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, WE HAVE SECRET INFO, WE ARE GOING TO PROVE, SOME FACTS CAN BE INTERPRETED AS ect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Cemu1q9xY

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