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Monday, 02.10.2017.

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Serbia, irked by EU's Catalonia-Kosovo stance, drafts letter

The president and the government of Serbia will address the European Commission (EC) in a letter, looking for answers to a range of questions.

Izvor: Tanjug

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icj1

pre 6 godina

As we know, the US and NATO financed, armed and trained KLA terrorists against that UN resolution. NATO with terrorists -> [link]
(Zoran, 3 October 2017 12:04)

It looks like you provided the wrong link since the link above does not show anything about anybody financing, arming and training anybody else! You might want to check the links before blindly including them in your comments lol

icj1

pre 6 godina

"According to her, the letter will "above all raise the question - is there one international law applicable to the EU, and another international law applicable to all other countries which are not members of the EU.""

What an idiotic question! There is one international law that applies to all countries, be that EU countries or non-EU countries like Kosovo or Serbia. That is the reason why, for example, Kosovo declared independence in accordance with international law.

fas

pre 6 godina

Some things are going in the right direction in US occupied Serbia, as shown by the level of cooperation with big brother Russia, but not only is the US imposed Otporista quisling cult still governing Serbia, it has a sodomite pervert installed as President as well...

factman

pre 6 godina

Separatism in Europe was let out of the bag with Kosovo and it will not end with Catalonia.

The EU will fragment. It is not possible for Spain to now stay together.

The Basques of Spain are watching and they too will eventually do the same.

In France, Corsica will follow.

In Brussels so will Flanders.

And so on.

That which was predicted in 1999 is now coming to pass.

Does anyone really believe there is a future to the EU?

EA

pre 6 godina

Let me give you one of the answers:
In Kosovo there was ethnic cleansing organused by the State against "its own people". Serbia wanted to "teach Albanians a lesson"...and learned for itself.

Guest

pre 6 godina

The EU is correcting a centuries old mistake when Albanian lands were taken and offered toYugoslavia by the great powers, Catalonia however joined Spain on its own accord through the marriage of Queen Isabella of Castile and Ferdinand of Aragón. The Turks and Romans controlled most of the region throughout its history, the modern state of Kosovo is only a fraction of the size of the Viyalet of Kosovo. Kosovo ain’t comin back and it looks like the Presevo Valley and Vojvodina might be leaving too. You are foreigners who claim other people’s artefacts and history as your own, first the Croats and Bosniaks with their debunked Illyrian connection, now its the Bulgarians with their Macedonian claim you Slavs have no honour or respect for those that were here first. However we don’t expect much from Russian leftovers.

Moris

pre 6 godina

The EU is living with paradox values for a while now. Nothing is comparable with Kosovo ... it seems that international law exists only for others.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

The EU is correcting a centuries old mistake when Albanian lands were taken and offered toYugoslavia by the great powers

@ Guest - That's gotta be one of the most outrageous statements ever;)
Why would the EU feel so bad for the injustice Albanians suffered when their own history is so full of "wrongs" that need to be "fixed"?
You still don't get it...Albanians, just like Srbs, are TOOLS for the "powers to be" to manipulate to their own liking...and you think they're trying to "fix" your injustice?...Gosh, you crack me up;)lol

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Are you suggeseting that the CIA are hiding a mass grave of 800 Serb civilians in Langley or Tirana or Berlin
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 13:22)
--
What does that have to do with crimes against Serbs being covered up? Check -> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/kosovo/9534691/Former-Kosovo-rebel-describes-removing-prisoners-heart-for-black-market-sale.html

Or crimes committed by the US and allies being covered up? Check -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasht-i-Leili_massacre

Yes, your side keep covering up their crimes. What about the KLA's source of funding? Yep, that's the side you were fighting with, terrorists, drug and organ traffickers. Nice!

Check -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_Liberation_Army
"When the US State Department listed the KLA as a terrorist organization in 1998, it noted its links to the heroin trade,[27] and a briefing paper for the US Congress stated: "We would be remiss to dismiss allegations that between 30 and 50 percent of the KLA's money comes from drugs." By 1999, Western intelligence agencies estimated that over $250m of narcotics money had found its way into KLA coffers."

Joni

pre 6 godina

I wonder where's the Spanish King and why Dodik is silent ?
It's their turn to come out to the stage I think.
Dodik must reprecent Serbs while Vucic must sit and wait for the moment.
Kraina is a good bonus to tuurn away from the EU I believe.
Then we can talk with the others ...
(rote kapelle, 3 October 2017 13:38)

Is simple rote!
Serbia spoke to much against Kosovo Indipendence that now she can"T protect her people rights on R.Srbska. Is in violation with her foreign policy. She did everything to convict EU, Russia, China about Kosovo and you can't play the child with these serious countries.

You can't wake up today and ask for R.Srbska what you opposed for Kosovo.
Serbs were stupid! If they will 'win" something on RS will be because of us, if Serbia will recognize Kosovo - Albania will support her on RS.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

"As we know" = As SJ/Zoran imagines
There is no evidence that US financed or armed KLA (prior to 1999). There has been accusations that CIA trained some members but no proof.
Are you suggeseting that the CIA are hiding a mass grave of 800 Serb civilians in Langley or Tirana or Berlin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batajnica_mass_graves

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

I wonder where's the Spanish King and why Dodik is silent ?
It's their turn to come out to the stage I think.
Dodik must reprecent Serbs while Vucic must sit and wait for the moment.
Kraina is a good bonus to tuurn away from the EU I believe.
Then we can talk with the others ...

Zoran

pre 6 godina

"Condemning ... all external support for terrorist activity in Kosovo. including finance, arms and training"
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 11:23)
--
As we know, the US and NATO financed, armed and trained KLA terrorists against that UN resolution. NATO with terrorists -> http://www.kosovo.net/agreement.jpg

Serbs never denied crimes were committed. We did as all side did. The problem being that crimes committed against Serbs have been covered up. That's why the region remains poisoned.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

The Spanish gov did not have a policy of...
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 10:26)
--
Let's hope Spain resolves this peacefully with the Catalans and Basques. Let's hope terrorists are identified as such and are not supported by great powers. Let's hope Spain is not targeted for geopolitical reasons and bombed by NATO, based on false pretences. As we know, once war starts the gates of hell open.

Serbia at least didn't come out as bad as Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, where the entire countries were destroyed based on lies and one sided narratives.

I still find it amazing that CNN and BBC junkies still come here with their brainwashed delusional history. I'm glad that the new generation, the millennials have alternative news sources and seem much more informed. That is the reason the world has changed.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

The EU supported Croatian, Bosnian Muslim and Albanian separatists while they were murdering and raping Serbian civilians for years
(Zoran, 3 October 2017 10:46)

No they did not, this is a fiction that you have invented in an lame attempt to excuse later civilian murders by Serb forces.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/un1160.asp
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1160; March 31, 1998

"Affirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia"

"Condemning the use of excessive force by Serbian police forces against civilians and peaceful demonstrators in Kosovo, as well as all acts of terrorism by the Kosovo Liberation Army or any other group or individual and all external support for terrorist activity in Kosovo. including finance, arms and training"

This also mentions the arms embargo on FRY which was basically support for Serbia because Serbia were already well armed.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

If Spain spends sends tanks into Catalonia and spends 10 years murdering and raping civilians and the EU still supports Spanish gov, then you can feel irked
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 09:10)
--
The EU supported Croatian, Bosnian Muslim and Albanian separatists while they were murdering and raping Serbian civilians for years. They were harvesting organs and committing terrorist acts. They committed genocide by mass ethnic cleansing with the support of the US and NATO military.

I think what you are trying to say is, if you are a hypocrite then the logic is clear. One side can commit crimes as long as they submit to the west. We saw it in the former Yugoslavia and we see it all of the Middle East. The West supporting terrorists in Syria, Saudi Arabia bombing civilians in Yemen and so on.

It's all good though, in the eyes of all hypocrites, the West and their allies can do no wrong even though it is responsible for the most civilian deaths since WWII and we are talking millions.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

Then we would have the same "unique" case.
(Peggy, 3 October 2017 03:15)

You are correct Peggy, maybe they will do that and it will work. Or maybe they will sort something out through talks, or maybe Catalonia will separate peacefully from Spain.

However, Basque separatists already tried the war tactic. The Spanish government managed to stop this without burning the civilian population out of their homes like the Serb gov did.
The Spanish police were not given the freedom to rape 100s of Basque women like the Serb police were allowed to do.
The Spanish army did not cordon off Basque villages and send militias in to execute all the men and half the women and children like the Serbian army did.
There is no mass grave in Madrid with the bodies of 800 Basque civilinas murdered by Spanish Special forces like the one in Belgrade run by Serb Special forces
The Spanish gov did not have a policy of collective punishment of Basque civilians for crimes of terrorists like the Serb policy.
The Spanish police were not allowed to execute any prisoners without trial or evidence like Serb police were allowed to do.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

Brainwashed by Serb nationalists who change the past to suit themselves. Serbs and other ex-Yugo people are not in the Hague for fighting against or supporting separatism, they are not charged with splitting up Yugoslavia. They are not charged with wanting a Greater Serbia or Greater Albania or Independent Kosovo, Independent Croatia etc. They are there for murdering people.

There is separatism in nearly every country in the world, how you react is important.
If Spain spends sends tanks into Catalonia and spends 10 years murdering and raping civilians and the EU still supports Spanish gov, then you can feel irked

Peggy

pre 6 godina

And then you Ana, shall fall silent with the look of guilt shining thru that face of lies!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 2 October 2017 21:25)
============
Yep, they are doing it all wrong. They should copy what you did and start killing policemen, terrorizing others and hope that Spain sends in the army. Once they start a war with Spanish army it's all smooth sailing from then on.
Then we would have the same "unique" case.

Who

pre 6 godina

(Watcher, 2 October 2017 22:36)

People who insult the most in this site are serbs by far . Ok bud ? In every comment , that's why you force the others to use that kind of word to

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Now I can see that ; this is the dumbest nation(serb) on earth!
(the truth, 2 October 2017 21:13)

LOL, maybe - but damn, you couldn't touch Serbia's integrity if your life depended on it. This is what a mature government is expected to do, fight at the table, not on the battlefield!
Loving it! Call them out...Loud and clear. I can see why you're down to offering ZERO value, but insults. LOL

Joni

pre 6 godina

Mr or Mrs Barbabic I would address a letter to you asking why you accepted and recognized Montenegro referendum but you don't recognize Catalan's Referendum?

Could you reply please?

the truth

pre 6 godina

Brnabic made this statement after urgent consultations were held in Belgrade, called earlier in the day by President Aleksandar Vucic.


Now I can see that ; this is the dumbest nation(serb) on earth!

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

And the civilized international community of democratic nations will
Answer as follows:
Sorry you miserable SOB,S, you don't see Spanish war jets, helicopter gunshilps, tanks by the dozens burning and razing entire cantolinan villages, rape camps, the massacring of innocent civilians, ethnic cleansing of unarmed men woman children on a scale not seen since WW2, no one is witnessing cantolinans binge forcefully expelled from their homes in the 100s of thousands, as in the case of The Republic Of Kosova all of which the government of Serbia did to the then unarmed population of KOSOVA in the 1990s!!!

And then you Ana, shall fall silent with the look of guilt shining thru that face of lies!!!

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

And the civilized international community of democratic nations will
Answer as follows:
Sorry you miserable SOB,S, you don't see Spanish war jets, helicopter gunshilps, tanks by the dozens burning and razing entire cantolinan villages, rape camps, the massacring of innocent civilians, ethnic cleansing of unarmed men woman children on a scale not seen since WW2, no one is witnessing cantolinans binge forcefully expelled from their homes in the 100s of thousands, as in the case of The Republic Of Kosova all of which the government of Serbia did to the then unarmed population of KOSOVA in the 1990s!!!

And then you Ana, shall fall silent with the look of guilt shining thru that face of lies!!!

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Now I can see that ; this is the dumbest nation(serb) on earth!
(the truth, 2 October 2017 21:13)

LOL, maybe - but damn, you couldn't touch Serbia's integrity if your life depended on it. This is what a mature government is expected to do, fight at the table, not on the battlefield!
Loving it! Call them out...Loud and clear. I can see why you're down to offering ZERO value, but insults. LOL

Joni

pre 6 godina

Mr or Mrs Barbabic I would address a letter to you asking why you accepted and recognized Montenegro referendum but you don't recognize Catalan's Referendum?

Could you reply please?

the truth

pre 6 godina

Brnabic made this statement after urgent consultations were held in Belgrade, called earlier in the day by President Aleksandar Vucic.


Now I can see that ; this is the dumbest nation(serb) on earth!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

And then you Ana, shall fall silent with the look of guilt shining thru that face of lies!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 2 October 2017 21:25)
============
Yep, they are doing it all wrong. They should copy what you did and start killing policemen, terrorizing others and hope that Spain sends in the army. Once they start a war with Spanish army it's all smooth sailing from then on.
Then we would have the same "unique" case.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

If Spain spends sends tanks into Catalonia and spends 10 years murdering and raping civilians and the EU still supports Spanish gov, then you can feel irked
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 09:10)
--
The EU supported Croatian, Bosnian Muslim and Albanian separatists while they were murdering and raping Serbian civilians for years. They were harvesting organs and committing terrorist acts. They committed genocide by mass ethnic cleansing with the support of the US and NATO military.

I think what you are trying to say is, if you are a hypocrite then the logic is clear. One side can commit crimes as long as they submit to the west. We saw it in the former Yugoslavia and we see it all of the Middle East. The West supporting terrorists in Syria, Saudi Arabia bombing civilians in Yemen and so on.

It's all good though, in the eyes of all hypocrites, the West and their allies can do no wrong even though it is responsible for the most civilian deaths since WWII and we are talking millions.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

"Condemning ... all external support for terrorist activity in Kosovo. including finance, arms and training"
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 11:23)
--
As we know, the US and NATO financed, armed and trained KLA terrorists against that UN resolution. NATO with terrorists -> http://www.kosovo.net/agreement.jpg

Serbs never denied crimes were committed. We did as all side did. The problem being that crimes committed against Serbs have been covered up. That's why the region remains poisoned.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

The Spanish gov did not have a policy of...
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 10:26)
--
Let's hope Spain resolves this peacefully with the Catalans and Basques. Let's hope terrorists are identified as such and are not supported by great powers. Let's hope Spain is not targeted for geopolitical reasons and bombed by NATO, based on false pretences. As we know, once war starts the gates of hell open.

Serbia at least didn't come out as bad as Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, where the entire countries were destroyed based on lies and one sided narratives.

I still find it amazing that CNN and BBC junkies still come here with their brainwashed delusional history. I'm glad that the new generation, the millennials have alternative news sources and seem much more informed. That is the reason the world has changed.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

Brainwashed by Serb nationalists who change the past to suit themselves. Serbs and other ex-Yugo people are not in the Hague for fighting against or supporting separatism, they are not charged with splitting up Yugoslavia. They are not charged with wanting a Greater Serbia or Greater Albania or Independent Kosovo, Independent Croatia etc. They are there for murdering people.

There is separatism in nearly every country in the world, how you react is important.
If Spain spends sends tanks into Catalonia and spends 10 years murdering and raping civilians and the EU still supports Spanish gov, then you can feel irked

Watcher

pre 6 godina

The EU is correcting a centuries old mistake when Albanian lands were taken and offered toYugoslavia by the great powers

@ Guest - That's gotta be one of the most outrageous statements ever;)
Why would the EU feel so bad for the injustice Albanians suffered when their own history is so full of "wrongs" that need to be "fixed"?
You still don't get it...Albanians, just like Srbs, are TOOLS for the "powers to be" to manipulate to their own liking...and you think they're trying to "fix" your injustice?...Gosh, you crack me up;)lol

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Are you suggeseting that the CIA are hiding a mass grave of 800 Serb civilians in Langley or Tirana or Berlin
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 13:22)
--
What does that have to do with crimes against Serbs being covered up? Check -> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/kosovo/9534691/Former-Kosovo-rebel-describes-removing-prisoners-heart-for-black-market-sale.html

Or crimes committed by the US and allies being covered up? Check -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasht-i-Leili_massacre

Yes, your side keep covering up their crimes. What about the KLA's source of funding? Yep, that's the side you were fighting with, terrorists, drug and organ traffickers. Nice!

Check -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_Liberation_Army
"When the US State Department listed the KLA as a terrorist organization in 1998, it noted its links to the heroin trade,[27] and a briefing paper for the US Congress stated: "We would be remiss to dismiss allegations that between 30 and 50 percent of the KLA's money comes from drugs." By 1999, Western intelligence agencies estimated that over $250m of narcotics money had found its way into KLA coffers."

Dwight

pre 6 godina

Then we would have the same "unique" case.
(Peggy, 3 October 2017 03:15)

You are correct Peggy, maybe they will do that and it will work. Or maybe they will sort something out through talks, or maybe Catalonia will separate peacefully from Spain.

However, Basque separatists already tried the war tactic. The Spanish government managed to stop this without burning the civilian population out of their homes like the Serb gov did.
The Spanish police were not given the freedom to rape 100s of Basque women like the Serb police were allowed to do.
The Spanish army did not cordon off Basque villages and send militias in to execute all the men and half the women and children like the Serbian army did.
There is no mass grave in Madrid with the bodies of 800 Basque civilinas murdered by Spanish Special forces like the one in Belgrade run by Serb Special forces
The Spanish gov did not have a policy of collective punishment of Basque civilians for crimes of terrorists like the Serb policy.
The Spanish police were not allowed to execute any prisoners without trial or evidence like Serb police were allowed to do.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

The EU supported Croatian, Bosnian Muslim and Albanian separatists while they were murdering and raping Serbian civilians for years
(Zoran, 3 October 2017 10:46)

No they did not, this is a fiction that you have invented in an lame attempt to excuse later civilian murders by Serb forces.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/un1160.asp
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1160; March 31, 1998

"Affirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia"

"Condemning the use of excessive force by Serbian police forces against civilians and peaceful demonstrators in Kosovo, as well as all acts of terrorism by the Kosovo Liberation Army or any other group or individual and all external support for terrorist activity in Kosovo. including finance, arms and training"

This also mentions the arms embargo on FRY which was basically support for Serbia because Serbia were already well armed.

Moris

pre 6 godina

The EU is living with paradox values for a while now. Nothing is comparable with Kosovo ... it seems that international law exists only for others.

Who

pre 6 godina

(Watcher, 2 October 2017 22:36)

People who insult the most in this site are serbs by far . Ok bud ? In every comment , that's why you force the others to use that kind of word to

Dwight

pre 6 godina

"As we know" = As SJ/Zoran imagines
There is no evidence that US financed or armed KLA (prior to 1999). There has been accusations that CIA trained some members but no proof.
Are you suggeseting that the CIA are hiding a mass grave of 800 Serb civilians in Langley or Tirana or Berlin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batajnica_mass_graves

Joni

pre 6 godina

I wonder where's the Spanish King and why Dodik is silent ?
It's their turn to come out to the stage I think.
Dodik must reprecent Serbs while Vucic must sit and wait for the moment.
Kraina is a good bonus to tuurn away from the EU I believe.
Then we can talk with the others ...
(rote kapelle, 3 October 2017 13:38)

Is simple rote!
Serbia spoke to much against Kosovo Indipendence that now she can"T protect her people rights on R.Srbska. Is in violation with her foreign policy. She did everything to convict EU, Russia, China about Kosovo and you can't play the child with these serious countries.

You can't wake up today and ask for R.Srbska what you opposed for Kosovo.
Serbs were stupid! If they will 'win" something on RS will be because of us, if Serbia will recognize Kosovo - Albania will support her on RS.

factman

pre 6 godina

Separatism in Europe was let out of the bag with Kosovo and it will not end with Catalonia.

The EU will fragment. It is not possible for Spain to now stay together.

The Basques of Spain are watching and they too will eventually do the same.

In France, Corsica will follow.

In Brussels so will Flanders.

And so on.

That which was predicted in 1999 is now coming to pass.

Does anyone really believe there is a future to the EU?

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

I wonder where's the Spanish King and why Dodik is silent ?
It's their turn to come out to the stage I think.
Dodik must reprecent Serbs while Vucic must sit and wait for the moment.
Kraina is a good bonus to tuurn away from the EU I believe.
Then we can talk with the others ...

EA

pre 6 godina

Let me give you one of the answers:
In Kosovo there was ethnic cleansing organused by the State against "its own people". Serbia wanted to "teach Albanians a lesson"...and learned for itself.

Guest

pre 6 godina

The EU is correcting a centuries old mistake when Albanian lands were taken and offered toYugoslavia by the great powers, Catalonia however joined Spain on its own accord through the marriage of Queen Isabella of Castile and Ferdinand of Aragón. The Turks and Romans controlled most of the region throughout its history, the modern state of Kosovo is only a fraction of the size of the Viyalet of Kosovo. Kosovo ain’t comin back and it looks like the Presevo Valley and Vojvodina might be leaving too. You are foreigners who claim other people’s artefacts and history as your own, first the Croats and Bosniaks with their debunked Illyrian connection, now its the Bulgarians with their Macedonian claim you Slavs have no honour or respect for those that were here first. However we don’t expect much from Russian leftovers.

fas

pre 6 godina

Some things are going in the right direction in US occupied Serbia, as shown by the level of cooperation with big brother Russia, but not only is the US imposed Otporista quisling cult still governing Serbia, it has a sodomite pervert installed as President as well...

icj1

pre 6 godina

"According to her, the letter will "above all raise the question - is there one international law applicable to the EU, and another international law applicable to all other countries which are not members of the EU.""

What an idiotic question! There is one international law that applies to all countries, be that EU countries or non-EU countries like Kosovo or Serbia. That is the reason why, for example, Kosovo declared independence in accordance with international law.

icj1

pre 6 godina

As we know, the US and NATO financed, armed and trained KLA terrorists against that UN resolution. NATO with terrorists -> [link]
(Zoran, 3 October 2017 12:04)

It looks like you provided the wrong link since the link above does not show anything about anybody financing, arming and training anybody else! You might want to check the links before blindly including them in your comments lol

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

And the civilized international community of democratic nations will
Answer as follows:
Sorry you miserable SOB,S, you don't see Spanish war jets, helicopter gunshilps, tanks by the dozens burning and razing entire cantolinan villages, rape camps, the massacring of innocent civilians, ethnic cleansing of unarmed men woman children on a scale not seen since WW2, no one is witnessing cantolinans binge forcefully expelled from their homes in the 100s of thousands, as in the case of The Republic Of Kosova all of which the government of Serbia did to the then unarmed population of KOSOVA in the 1990s!!!

And then you Ana, shall fall silent with the look of guilt shining thru that face of lies!!!

the truth

pre 6 godina

Brnabic made this statement after urgent consultations were held in Belgrade, called earlier in the day by President Aleksandar Vucic.


Now I can see that ; this is the dumbest nation(serb) on earth!

Joni

pre 6 godina

Mr or Mrs Barbabic I would address a letter to you asking why you accepted and recognized Montenegro referendum but you don't recognize Catalan's Referendum?

Could you reply please?

Dwight

pre 6 godina

Brainwashed by Serb nationalists who change the past to suit themselves. Serbs and other ex-Yugo people are not in the Hague for fighting against or supporting separatism, they are not charged with splitting up Yugoslavia. They are not charged with wanting a Greater Serbia or Greater Albania or Independent Kosovo, Independent Croatia etc. They are there for murdering people.

There is separatism in nearly every country in the world, how you react is important.
If Spain spends sends tanks into Catalonia and spends 10 years murdering and raping civilians and the EU still supports Spanish gov, then you can feel irked

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Now I can see that ; this is the dumbest nation(serb) on earth!
(the truth, 2 October 2017 21:13)

LOL, maybe - but damn, you couldn't touch Serbia's integrity if your life depended on it. This is what a mature government is expected to do, fight at the table, not on the battlefield!
Loving it! Call them out...Loud and clear. I can see why you're down to offering ZERO value, but insults. LOL

Dwight

pre 6 godina

Then we would have the same "unique" case.
(Peggy, 3 October 2017 03:15)

You are correct Peggy, maybe they will do that and it will work. Or maybe they will sort something out through talks, or maybe Catalonia will separate peacefully from Spain.

However, Basque separatists already tried the war tactic. The Spanish government managed to stop this without burning the civilian population out of their homes like the Serb gov did.
The Spanish police were not given the freedom to rape 100s of Basque women like the Serb police were allowed to do.
The Spanish army did not cordon off Basque villages and send militias in to execute all the men and half the women and children like the Serbian army did.
There is no mass grave in Madrid with the bodies of 800 Basque civilinas murdered by Spanish Special forces like the one in Belgrade run by Serb Special forces
The Spanish gov did not have a policy of collective punishment of Basque civilians for crimes of terrorists like the Serb policy.
The Spanish police were not allowed to execute any prisoners without trial or evidence like Serb police were allowed to do.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

"As we know" = As SJ/Zoran imagines
There is no evidence that US financed or armed KLA (prior to 1999). There has been accusations that CIA trained some members but no proof.
Are you suggeseting that the CIA are hiding a mass grave of 800 Serb civilians in Langley or Tirana or Berlin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batajnica_mass_graves

Dwight

pre 6 godina

The EU supported Croatian, Bosnian Muslim and Albanian separatists while they were murdering and raping Serbian civilians for years
(Zoran, 3 October 2017 10:46)

No they did not, this is a fiction that you have invented in an lame attempt to excuse later civilian murders by Serb forces.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/un1160.asp
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1160; March 31, 1998

"Affirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia"

"Condemning the use of excessive force by Serbian police forces against civilians and peaceful demonstrators in Kosovo, as well as all acts of terrorism by the Kosovo Liberation Army or any other group or individual and all external support for terrorist activity in Kosovo. including finance, arms and training"

This also mentions the arms embargo on FRY which was basically support for Serbia because Serbia were already well armed.

Guest

pre 6 godina

The EU is correcting a centuries old mistake when Albanian lands were taken and offered toYugoslavia by the great powers, Catalonia however joined Spain on its own accord through the marriage of Queen Isabella of Castile and Ferdinand of Aragón. The Turks and Romans controlled most of the region throughout its history, the modern state of Kosovo is only a fraction of the size of the Viyalet of Kosovo. Kosovo ain’t comin back and it looks like the Presevo Valley and Vojvodina might be leaving too. You are foreigners who claim other people’s artefacts and history as your own, first the Croats and Bosniaks with their debunked Illyrian connection, now its the Bulgarians with their Macedonian claim you Slavs have no honour or respect for those that were here first. However we don’t expect much from Russian leftovers.

EA

pre 6 godina

Let me give you one of the answers:
In Kosovo there was ethnic cleansing organused by the State against "its own people". Serbia wanted to "teach Albanians a lesson"...and learned for itself.

Who

pre 6 godina

(Watcher, 2 October 2017 22:36)

People who insult the most in this site are serbs by far . Ok bud ? In every comment , that's why you force the others to use that kind of word to

Peggy

pre 6 godina

And then you Ana, shall fall silent with the look of guilt shining thru that face of lies!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 2 October 2017 21:25)
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Yep, they are doing it all wrong. They should copy what you did and start killing policemen, terrorizing others and hope that Spain sends in the army. Once they start a war with Spanish army it's all smooth sailing from then on.
Then we would have the same "unique" case.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

The Spanish gov did not have a policy of...
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 10:26)
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Let's hope Spain resolves this peacefully with the Catalans and Basques. Let's hope terrorists are identified as such and are not supported by great powers. Let's hope Spain is not targeted for geopolitical reasons and bombed by NATO, based on false pretences. As we know, once war starts the gates of hell open.

Serbia at least didn't come out as bad as Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, where the entire countries were destroyed based on lies and one sided narratives.

I still find it amazing that CNN and BBC junkies still come here with their brainwashed delusional history. I'm glad that the new generation, the millennials have alternative news sources and seem much more informed. That is the reason the world has changed.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Are you suggeseting that the CIA are hiding a mass grave of 800 Serb civilians in Langley or Tirana or Berlin
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 13:22)
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What does that have to do with crimes against Serbs being covered up? Check -> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/kosovo/9534691/Former-Kosovo-rebel-describes-removing-prisoners-heart-for-black-market-sale.html

Or crimes committed by the US and allies being covered up? Check -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasht-i-Leili_massacre

Yes, your side keep covering up their crimes. What about the KLA's source of funding? Yep, that's the side you were fighting with, terrorists, drug and organ traffickers. Nice!

Check -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_Liberation_Army
"When the US State Department listed the KLA as a terrorist organization in 1998, it noted its links to the heroin trade,[27] and a briefing paper for the US Congress stated: "We would be remiss to dismiss allegations that between 30 and 50 percent of the KLA's money comes from drugs." By 1999, Western intelligence agencies estimated that over $250m of narcotics money had found its way into KLA coffers."

Zoran

pre 6 godina

If Spain spends sends tanks into Catalonia and spends 10 years murdering and raping civilians and the EU still supports Spanish gov, then you can feel irked
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 09:10)
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The EU supported Croatian, Bosnian Muslim and Albanian separatists while they were murdering and raping Serbian civilians for years. They were harvesting organs and committing terrorist acts. They committed genocide by mass ethnic cleansing with the support of the US and NATO military.

I think what you are trying to say is, if you are a hypocrite then the logic is clear. One side can commit crimes as long as they submit to the west. We saw it in the former Yugoslavia and we see it all of the Middle East. The West supporting terrorists in Syria, Saudi Arabia bombing civilians in Yemen and so on.

It's all good though, in the eyes of all hypocrites, the West and their allies can do no wrong even though it is responsible for the most civilian deaths since WWII and we are talking millions.

Joni

pre 6 godina

I wonder where's the Spanish King and why Dodik is silent ?
It's their turn to come out to the stage I think.
Dodik must reprecent Serbs while Vucic must sit and wait for the moment.
Kraina is a good bonus to tuurn away from the EU I believe.
Then we can talk with the others ...
(rote kapelle, 3 October 2017 13:38)

Is simple rote!
Serbia spoke to much against Kosovo Indipendence that now she can"T protect her people rights on R.Srbska. Is in violation with her foreign policy. She did everything to convict EU, Russia, China about Kosovo and you can't play the child with these serious countries.

You can't wake up today and ask for R.Srbska what you opposed for Kosovo.
Serbs were stupid! If they will 'win" something on RS will be because of us, if Serbia will recognize Kosovo - Albania will support her on RS.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

"Condemning ... all external support for terrorist activity in Kosovo. including finance, arms and training"
(Dwight, 3 October 2017 11:23)
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As we know, the US and NATO financed, armed and trained KLA terrorists against that UN resolution. NATO with terrorists -> http://www.kosovo.net/agreement.jpg

Serbs never denied crimes were committed. We did as all side did. The problem being that crimes committed against Serbs have been covered up. That's why the region remains poisoned.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

I wonder where's the Spanish King and why Dodik is silent ?
It's their turn to come out to the stage I think.
Dodik must reprecent Serbs while Vucic must sit and wait for the moment.
Kraina is a good bonus to tuurn away from the EU I believe.
Then we can talk with the others ...

factman

pre 6 godina

Separatism in Europe was let out of the bag with Kosovo and it will not end with Catalonia.

The EU will fragment. It is not possible for Spain to now stay together.

The Basques of Spain are watching and they too will eventually do the same.

In France, Corsica will follow.

In Brussels so will Flanders.

And so on.

That which was predicted in 1999 is now coming to pass.

Does anyone really believe there is a future to the EU?

Watcher

pre 6 godina

The EU is correcting a centuries old mistake when Albanian lands were taken and offered toYugoslavia by the great powers

@ Guest - That's gotta be one of the most outrageous statements ever;)
Why would the EU feel so bad for the injustice Albanians suffered when their own history is so full of "wrongs" that need to be "fixed"?
You still don't get it...Albanians, just like Srbs, are TOOLS for the "powers to be" to manipulate to their own liking...and you think they're trying to "fix" your injustice?...Gosh, you crack me up;)lol

fas

pre 6 godina

Some things are going in the right direction in US occupied Serbia, as shown by the level of cooperation with big brother Russia, but not only is the US imposed Otporista quisling cult still governing Serbia, it has a sodomite pervert installed as President as well...

Moris

pre 6 godina

The EU is living with paradox values for a while now. Nothing is comparable with Kosovo ... it seems that international law exists only for others.

icj1

pre 6 godina

"According to her, the letter will "above all raise the question - is there one international law applicable to the EU, and another international law applicable to all other countries which are not members of the EU.""

What an idiotic question! There is one international law that applies to all countries, be that EU countries or non-EU countries like Kosovo or Serbia. That is the reason why, for example, Kosovo declared independence in accordance with international law.

icj1

pre 6 godina

As we know, the US and NATO financed, armed and trained KLA terrorists against that UN resolution. NATO with terrorists -> [link]
(Zoran, 3 October 2017 12:04)

It looks like you provided the wrong link since the link above does not show anything about anybody financing, arming and training anybody else! You might want to check the links before blindly including them in your comments lol