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Monday, 21.08.2017.

14:21

Belgrade "has evidence of Skopje's very offensive activity"

The staff of the embassy in Skopje has been withdrawn after evidence was received of "very offensive activities against Serbian authorities and institutions."

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icj1

pre 6 godina

Serbs DO HAVE PROOF of their time in Balkans.
(Peggy, 24 August 2017 14:17)

I'm glad that you finally realised that, similarly to the other nations, Serbs also do have proof of their time in the territory where they currently live (i.e. the Balkans).
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What proof do you have?
(Peggy, 24 August 2017 14:17)

Proof about what, dear?!
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You cannot compare yourselves to us.
(Peggy, 24 August 2017 14:17)

Rest assured dear that I don't compare myself to somebody full of hate like you!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Well, I just quoted your statement that "Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans" which makes them similar to the Serbs, who also don't belong to Balkans.
(icj1, 24 August 2017 01:24
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You insist on making a fool of yourself. I feel sorry for you.
Serbs DO HAVE PROOF of their time in Balkans. We have monuments, churches and monasteries.
What proof do you have? You cannot compare yourselves to us.
Do you have a problem with comprehension?
Maybe you're not high or drunk. Maybe you really are just that stupid.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
(Peggy, 22 August 2017 02:59)

Oh, that's great since it means that Albanians have something in common with Serbs...
(icj1, 22 August 2017 19:48)

Never post comments when high or drunk.
(Peggy, 23 August 2017 01:34)

Well, I just quoted your statement that "Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans" which makes them similar to the Serbs, who also don't belong to Balkans. If you were high or drunk when you posted your comment, I'm sorry for quoting it... Next time you might want to add a note with your comments confirming your soberness so members of these forums know whether it is appropriate to quote them or not.

icj1

pre 6 godina

That's great that even you realised that your statement would be meaningless without that clarification. Let's see if it will make more sense once you write the clarification that you did not forget about lol
(icj1, 23 August 2017 02:51)

LOL, you can do it, sweetie!
(Watcher, 23 August 2017 16:34)

I can clarify your nonsense writings?! lol That's your job, dear, not mine...

Joseph

pre 6 godina

Free nations.net says nation-states are ordained by God jehovah. Through prayer and personal righteousness, i.e. obedience one can get back what jehoval has given to manage. Remember god turned Esau,a heart when Jacob wrestled with the angel. Genesis32and33. (So. diff --- I consider Gavrilo P very wrong He was not aware of bible way. The

Watcher

pre 6 godina

That's great that even you realised that your statement would be meaningless without that clarification. Let's see if it will make more sense once you write the clarification that you did not forget about lol
(icj1, 23 August 2017 02:51)

LOL, you can do it, sweetie! I know it hurts, but think! Everyone else know what I meant and you can too!...take your time, we'll wait;)

Rote

pre 6 godina

Koseph none of the tribes has vanished. 10 of them were fomed in mainland Horde in Rus and 2 in Judea maybe Turkey and Balkans. None of the 12 tribed was Jewish while Israel was one of the names of Rus. Especially when religious issues were staked. Israel was not in one plsce but where the Orthodox Patriarh had his residence. Current Israel was establishef by Napoleon in 1798 and then supported by the Brits after 1811.

Joseph

pre 6 godina

According to the. British Israel world federation Albanians are of the ten lost tribes who migrated from Babylon. On the way northwest to the U.K. Since genesis11:8 was the only virgin migration, basically.

icj1

pre 6 godina

but what happens when they come knocking at your door...
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 20:06)

Well, you forgot to clarify who would be coming to knock at whose door and for what! You are very confused dear...
(icj1, 22 August 2017 19:43)

@icj1 - LOL, no, I didn't forget, sweetie.
(Watcher, 22 August 2017 20:43)

That's great that even you realised that your statement would be meaningless without that clarification. Let's see if it will make more sense once you write the clarification that you did not forget about lol

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
(Peggy, 22 August 2017 02:59)

Oh, that's great since it means that Albanians have something in common with Serbs...
(icj1, 22 August 2017 19:48)
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Never post comments when high or drunk.

Buda Pest

pre 6 godina

Hungary, Bulgaria and Croatia are the kings of the Balkans. They have the brightest future by far, and will lead the Balkans into an era of prosperity.

Albania and Serbia need to be shipped to Africa. Romaniland can join them.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Hey Serbs what is this?

Consular affairs staffers to return to Skopje next week //www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2017&mm=08&dd=22&nav_id=102134

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@icj1 - LOL, no, I didn't forget, sweetie. Notice how everybody else understood? Your brain just doesn't have the capacity to understand. That's ok, sweetie, it's not your fault, God just made us all different, that's all;)Keep trying and everything will eventually become clearer. LOL

icj1

pre 6 godina

Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
(Peggy, 22 August 2017 02:59)

Oh, that's great since it means that Albanians have something in common with Serbs...

icj1

pre 6 godina

but what happens when they come knocking at your door...
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 20:06)

Well, you forgot to clarify who would be coming to knock at whose door and for what! You are very confused dear...

rote

pre 6 godina

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adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

For Sj and Professor the average salary from Serbia is 413 euro http://www.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/Public/PageView.aspx?pKey=2 this info is from Serbia statistic office + Vucic said until end of the year it will be 500 euro .

Albania is impossible to ever be as Serbia because they are primitive , btw from where is here VICTORY99 people don`t hate me anymore i even get green likes at comments .

Before here people were pissed off on me , now they have more Albanians

This website is popular tumorrow i will give link that in Romania they show the comments of Dragoljub Djurkovic

In my opinion for future developments as people to live good and the country to be strong

1) Czech Republic
2) Slovakia
3) Poland
4) Montenegro
5) Hungary
6) Croatia
7) Serbia
8) Romania
9) Macedonia
10) Bulgaria
11) Bosnia
12) Albania
13) Kosovo

I mentioned Balkan Peninsula + former Cehoslovakia , i forgot Turkey

HisStory.

pre 6 godina

@ slavsrb v ratmica 
Albanians new comers in the Illyrian Peninsula?! 

PROVE IT!! 
(delon, 21 August 2017 16:57) 

Funny story i heard about Albanian logic when it comes to history.

Three engineers (one each from Germany, Russia and Albania) chat online about how long there country has had the internet.
To prove it the German engineer digs a 1m hole in his backyard and finds a fibre optic cable and concludes that Germany has had the internet for over 20 years.
The Russian engineer then digs a 2m hole in his backyard and finds a copper phone line and concludes that Russia has had the internet for over 30 years.
Not to be out done, the Albanian engineer digs a 5m hole in his backyard but finds nothing, he then digs a further 10m hole and still finds nothing, so the Albanian engineer concludes that Albania has had WiFi access to the internet for at least 100 years

Reader

pre 6 godina

nope, this is Dacic trying to create problems for Macedonia under orders from Russia. Macedonia's wish to join NATO is the trigger for this behavior. Kosovo's UNESCO bid is just a pretext. Macedonia supported Kosovo before too, this reaction did not happen then.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Hey Nutty Professor !

In regards to our current Serbian economic prosperity all I can say is we can Thank the USA, England and Germany for all they have contributed especially the U-235 bombs for the situation we Serbian people are in today !!!

The Professor

pre 6 godina

As someone who just finished a Balkan trip, the rankings I'd say are:

1. Croatia
2. Bulgaria
3. Romania
4. Montenegro
5. Macedonia
6. Serbia
7. Albania

With the biggest potential for growth belonging to Bulgaria and Romania. The guy on here saying Serbs live better than Bulgarians - lol. At the present moment, in my eyes, Bulgaria is better than Serbia in every way possible, from tourism to innovation, from infrastructure to development speed, from public transport to GDP per capita.

sj

pre 6 godina

(adi_bucharest, 21 August 2017 16:26)

Go to Montenegro and see for yourself. Montenegro has no industry; it has a service economy which means restaurants, hotels, transport etc. It’s a net importer of food and its only source of income is tourism which generally lasts 3 months.

I have been to Montenegro many times in 2015 and I will be back there next year. Montenegro would collapse if the EU did not provide aid.

Montenegro has an average salary of 500 euros while in Serbia its 380 euros and you say Bulgaria is 400 euros. Both Bulgaria and Serbia are much larger economies and yet Montenegro that lives off tourism which last 3 months has a higher average salary and better lifestyle???????? Something stinks in those calculations. Don’t believe everything you read.

Perhaps they should not use aid money when calculating the GDP. That is the problem.

Kosovo this year will have growth rate of 4% and yet it also does not have industry or tourism. When calculating growth, they take into account money sent back to Kosovo by family who work in the EU and that is why GDP/growth rates have become a joke.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 6 godina

You dont need to prove anything. The serb orthodox church has recordings since the Nemanja dynasty. Its not your fault that sasa is too ignorant and dont even believe his own spiritual leaders
(Gjon Marku, 22 August 2017 09:05)

We read with your comments that you are ignorant one and uneducated .
You have got no evidence that Albanians where in Balkans for over 2,000 years ))
Still a waiter in Melbourne coffee shops ,serving tables 😀))

sj

pre 6 godina

@ slavsrb v ratmica
Albanians new comers in the Illyrian Peninsula?!

PROVE IT!!
(delon, 21 August 2017 16:57)


You prove that Albanians have been there since time immemorial and please don’t use the Illyrians because you are not Illyrians. Show me evidence of Albanian occupation of that region that goes back for centuries. You have no evidence whatsoever. There is not even a cave painting.

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

@ sasa
It seems We were to lazy to build anything to use as prove that we are native to the Balkans. I don't want to use the name Constantinople as a empire city build by Illyrian emperor.
The thing is we can prove you slavsrp came on 7 century in the Balkans. Now if u have the balls to prove same thing for Albanians, just do it. I 'll live it here.
(delon, 21 August 2017 23:26) # Comment link

You dont need to prove anything. The serb orthodox church has recordings since the Nemanja dynasty. Its not your fault that sasa is too ignorant and dont even believe his own spiritual leaders

Darko

pre 6 godina

With those stupid games serbia is just trying to look important and to get some attention. LOL
You can be important only if you are not poor anymore. Or if your unemploiment is not 12% anymore.
Not with those stupid games.
With this you are just becoming a joke..

Prishtina(County of Gollak

pre 6 godina

Thank you Republika e Maqedonise,thanks for realising that Serbs got no say in balkans coz they are Iranian race ,greeting from Republika e Kosoves to Republika e Maqedonise & to Zoran Zaev

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Delon, ,provide it that Albanians have been more than 300 years in the Balkans ,with a momentum ,bridge,building,or anything Albanians build .))))
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 21 August 2017 21:32)
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You know how many times they've been asked to do that and so far not one has been able to do it.
That's because there is no evidence. Even the most primitive have left some trace.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

By your Logic everything belongs to the ottoman empire and Hungary. For all we know, the ottoman empire and Hungary ruled longer over the balkan peninsula than any of the current nations.
(Gjon Marku, 21 August 2017 19:25)
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And who did they take Constantinople from and how long did that civilization inhabit the land before the Turks?
Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
By your logic might makes right.
Wait for the next chapter then.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The thing is we can prove you slavsrp came on 7 century in the Balkans. Now if u have the balls to prove same thing for Albanians, just do it. I 'll live it here.
(delon, 21 August 2017 23:26)
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Actually it is your responsibility to prove that you were there long before us. You're the one making that claim.
We have all the evidence we need for us but after all the time we've been asking for you guys to provide evidence of your history on the land we still get nothing.
If we don't have evidence of you being there is that the proof you need?
Indigenous people all around the globe have proof of their time on the land even if it's paintings in caves. Where's yours?

Bilbao

pre 6 godina

I think you see the point, yet I don't think you're up to confronting this problem head-on...maybe because this time, it suits you...but what happens when they come knocking at your door...you will be looking for a international law to protect you, but....
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 20:06)

This does not suit me nor effect me any way so that we are cleare.

Serbia had a chance to solve this peacefully with Rugova however they did not, if Serbia gave Albanians same rights they want for Serbs in Kosovo today Kosovo and Montenegro would be part of it.

Serbia always had a solution for Kosovo without Albanians in it or at least not all of them there, they pushed their hand thinking they will not be stoped but they did.

Serbia benefited from some war lost in this this is the weal of History, it happens all over the world even French and British did this just that this part of world is dealing with this much later.

We can not solve problem with the past but with today and 96% of population of Kosovo do not want to live within Serbia - Hence solution with people today not with History as Serbia lost Kosovo in 1389 then it gained it in 1912 lost it again in 1999.

Joining EU will ease tensions in region as people will focus in prosperity not who was there first, Alzas used to be German today is French and no big deal people live in France and work in Germany this will be in Kosovo and Serbia in 20 years.

Pemi

pre 6 godina

What chance have Serbia if lost this Montengro ?

I am a Romanian from Romania wish we were small as Montengro ,we are as a pig , how was if we were only Bucharest and Constanta
(adi_bucharest,

What the hell is this Romanian talking about?!?!?!

delon

pre 6 godina

@ sasa
It seems We were to lazy to build anything to use as prove that we are native to the Balkans. I don't want to use the name Constantinople as a empire city build by Illyrian emperor.
The thing is we can prove you slavsrp came on 7 century in the Balkans. Now if u have the balls to prove same thing for Albanians, just do it. I 'll live it here.

rote

pre 6 godina

By your Logic everything belongs to the ottoman empire and Hungary. For all we know, the ottoman empire and Hungary ruled longer over the balkan peninsula than any of the current nations.
(Gjon Marku, 21 August 2017 19:25)

Idiot, Hungary (Velikoe Kniajestvo Ugorskoe), the Ottomans (Velikaja Porta) and the Balkans (Velikoe Knizhestvo Bulgarskoe) - all belonged to the Great Horde aka Velikoe Gosudarstvo aka India aka Sarmatia aka Scythia aka Great Roman Empire aka Mongol-Tatar aka Great Tartaria aka Gardariki aka White Horde aka Ruthenia aka Belaja Rus aka Mamelukes aka Rashka ect.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 6 godina

@ slavsrb v ratmica
Albanians new comers in the Illyrian Peninsula?!

PROVE IT!!
(delon, 21 August 2017 16:57) #

Delon, ,provide it that Albanians have been more than 300 years in the Balkans ,with a momentum ,bridge,building,or anything Albanians build .))))

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Bilbao - your logic points to "Might makes Right"...The problem though is that you do not teach your kids this. We call that Bullying. We do not teach our kids that Bullying is ok as long as it's done by someone a lot stronger. That logic is Unchristian! I'm not sure if Islam condemns this, but regardless...its WRONG! You are right, where do we start and stop with this problem...and WHO gets what back? You're right about Vojvodina & Hungaria, do the Magyars have a right now to get it back? WHY NOT, the Albanians get "Kosova"!
I think you see the point, yet I don't think you're up to confronting this problem head-on...maybe because this time, it suits you...but what happens when they come knocking at your door...you will be looking for a international law to protect you, but....

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Gjon Marku - That is EXACTLY my point...how much has the world and borders changed hands? How many times? Who has the right to go back and claim this was mine hundreds of years ago? No one has answered this question because their is no answer other than "Might makes Right"! Today you claim yours, tomorrow we will claim ours, and so on...except no one today is smart enough to see that the future children will pay with their blood...but that's ok, as long as it's not mine....NEGOTIATE!!!

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

It all comes back to same question...If Albanians are "entitled" to land lost hundreds of years ago, is EVERY country entitled to getting back "lost" land? Are the Indians or Mexicans "entitled" to the land of the USA? WHO makes those decisions of who gets what back? THIS is why the "Kosovo" precedent is not a viable plan. It is for the Albanians, but why stop there? Are Albanians so special that only they get to retract history? Or is it because the STRONGEST countries say so and it must be so??? In that case, might makes right...which only leads to bloodshed and war...something that SATAN loves!! With GOD, might never overruled right..if it did, we ALL would be history. Things to ponder about!
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 18:13)

By your Logic everything belongs to the ottoman empire and Hungary. For all we know, the ottoman empire and Hungary ruled longer over the balkan peninsula than any of the current nations.

Bilbao

pre 6 godina

It all comes back to same question...If Albanians are "entitled" to land lost hundreds of years ago, is EVERY country entitled to getting back "lost" land? Are the Indians or Mexicans "entitled" to the land of the USA? WHO makes those decisions of who gets what back?
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 18:13)

Let me put it this way:

You lost the war, just like Hungary lost the war and lost Vojvodina and now it belongs to Serbia.

Texas does not want to join Mexico so that is a big difference, Mexicans in Texas work hard to become US citizens.

This is how cookies crumble, you lost the war fair not fair it is what it is, there are only 2% Serbs living in Kosovo hence its ruled by ALbanians.

Kosovo to Serbia is same as Vojvodina to Hungary just Hungarians have moved on and do not hold on.

Dont be to sad

pre 6 godina

Nikos Dimou Greece - “It’s the fault of a German,” He was referring to Johann Winckelmann
“We used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans, but then Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us, ‘No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants of Plato and Socrates,’ and that did it. If a small, poor nation has such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never recover.”

Watcher

pre 6 godina

It all comes back to same question...If Albanians are "entitled" to land lost hundreds of years ago, is EVERY country entitled to getting back "lost" land? Are the Indians or Mexicans "entitled" to the land of the USA? WHO makes those decisions of who gets what back? THIS is why the "Kosovo" precedent is not a viable plan. It is for the Albanians, but why stop there? Are Albanians so special that only they get to retract history? Or is it because the STRONGEST countries say so and it must be so??? In that case, might makes right...which only leads to bloodshed and war...something that SATAN loves!! With GOD, might never overruled right..if it did, we ALL would be history. Things to ponder about!

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Montengro is the future of East Europe and of the Balkan as economy

it have tourism and 20% of gdp as industry

they have a fantastic potentional

they already have average salary over 500 euro they are a strong country

i think this small Montengru with huge tourism potential is the tiger

Montengro => the tiger . Romania => is to big for can develop , Albania => no infrastructure , Serbia => it lost the Montengro which is equivalent with with 1999 war and sanctions . The demage for Serbia to lose Montengro is fantastic is a LETHAL BLOW OF WEST .

What chance have Serbia if lost this Montengro ?

I am a Romanian from Romania wish we were small as Montengro ,we are as a pig , how was if we were only Bucharest and Constanta

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Srbija needs to take back their recent support for Macedonia and give full support to Greece. Greece people were always and will be always Serbian friends ! Srbija needs to treat Makedonija the same as they would Islamic terrorist Albania ! Makedonija was poisoned a very long time ago by anti Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity Islamic Ottoman Empire thinking ! Every person in my life I met or knew from Makedonija is two faced and had a bitter attitude towards Serbian people ! Some thing strange there and I say if they want to spit on their faith and to be connected to Albanian Islamic terroist then let them be with them !!!

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

For Sj from an old topic about Croatia

Sj i said Montenegro is richer than Bulgaria and you said Bulgaria is richer than Montengero because Montengero
don`t have have industry . Montengro have 20% industry in gdp .

In numbers Bulgaria is richer than Montengro but the people from Montengro are more rich , they live better

In Montengro average salary is 500 euro in Bulgaria 400

Bulgaria have everyting less than Serbia from minimum salary to pensions

Vratnica

pre 6 godina

Hey troll delon,

Albanian territories since when.....since thousands of albanians from ljume flocked into southeastern kosovo and polog region in the 18th century!! You are 250yr old newcomers to those lands who multplied like rabbits from the 19th cent to the 1990s. Wait, of course, you still say those are illyrian lands and you were pushed back from dardania into the mountains, therefore you still have rights to these 'lost lands', etc etc. Get over it. Most serbs are not even Slavs, only 18% are which is the R1a gene. I2a and EV13 are native to the balkans.

delon

pre 6 godina

Now the West finally has realise what monster created on 1912-1918 supporting creation of slavsrbia on expenses of historical Albanian territories. Slavsrbia is turned completely into Russian puppet and against its creators,the Western powers. Keep up the good work slavsrb

Vratnica

pre 6 godina

Hey troll delon,

Albanian territories since when.....since thousands of albanians from ljume flocked into southeastern kosovo and polog region in the 18th century!! You are 250yr old newcomers to those lands who multplied like rabbits from the 19th cent to the 1990s. Wait, of course, you still say those are illyrian lands and you were pushed back from dardania into the mountains, therefore you still have rights to these 'lost lands', etc etc. Get over it. Most serbs are not even Slavs, only 18% are which is the R1a gene. I2a and EV13 are native to the balkans.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Srbija needs to take back their recent support for Macedonia and give full support to Greece. Greece people were always and will be always Serbian friends ! Srbija needs to treat Makedonija the same as they would Islamic terrorist Albania ! Makedonija was poisoned a very long time ago by anti Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity Islamic Ottoman Empire thinking ! Every person in my life I met or knew from Makedonija is two faced and had a bitter attitude towards Serbian people ! Some thing strange there and I say if they want to spit on their faith and to be connected to Albanian Islamic terroist then let them be with them !!!

delon

pre 6 godina

Now the West finally has realise what monster created on 1912-1918 supporting creation of slavsrbia on expenses of historical Albanian territories. Slavsrbia is turned completely into Russian puppet and against its creators,the Western powers. Keep up the good work slavsrb

Watcher

pre 6 godina

It all comes back to same question...If Albanians are "entitled" to land lost hundreds of years ago, is EVERY country entitled to getting back "lost" land? Are the Indians or Mexicans "entitled" to the land of the USA? WHO makes those decisions of who gets what back? THIS is why the "Kosovo" precedent is not a viable plan. It is for the Albanians, but why stop there? Are Albanians so special that only they get to retract history? Or is it because the STRONGEST countries say so and it must be so??? In that case, might makes right...which only leads to bloodshed and war...something that SATAN loves!! With GOD, might never overruled right..if it did, we ALL would be history. Things to ponder about!

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

For Sj from an old topic about Croatia

Sj i said Montenegro is richer than Bulgaria and you said Bulgaria is richer than Montengero because Montengero
don`t have have industry . Montengro have 20% industry in gdp .

In numbers Bulgaria is richer than Montengro but the people from Montengro are more rich , they live better

In Montengro average salary is 500 euro in Bulgaria 400

Bulgaria have everyting less than Serbia from minimum salary to pensions

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 6 godina

@ slavsrb v ratmica
Albanians new comers in the Illyrian Peninsula?!

PROVE IT!!
(delon, 21 August 2017 16:57) #

Delon, ,provide it that Albanians have been more than 300 years in the Balkans ,with a momentum ,bridge,building,or anything Albanians build .))))

Dont be to sad

pre 6 godina

Nikos Dimou Greece - “It’s the fault of a German,” He was referring to Johann Winckelmann
“We used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans, but then Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us, ‘No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants of Plato and Socrates,’ and that did it. If a small, poor nation has such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never recover.”

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 6 godina

You dont need to prove anything. The serb orthodox church has recordings since the Nemanja dynasty. Its not your fault that sasa is too ignorant and dont even believe his own spiritual leaders
(Gjon Marku, 22 August 2017 09:05)

We read with your comments that you are ignorant one and uneducated .
You have got no evidence that Albanians where in Balkans for over 2,000 years ))
Still a waiter in Melbourne coffee shops ,serving tables 😀))

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

It all comes back to same question...If Albanians are "entitled" to land lost hundreds of years ago, is EVERY country entitled to getting back "lost" land? Are the Indians or Mexicans "entitled" to the land of the USA? WHO makes those decisions of who gets what back? THIS is why the "Kosovo" precedent is not a viable plan. It is for the Albanians, but why stop there? Are Albanians so special that only they get to retract history? Or is it because the STRONGEST countries say so and it must be so??? In that case, might makes right...which only leads to bloodshed and war...something that SATAN loves!! With GOD, might never overruled right..if it did, we ALL would be history. Things to ponder about!
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 18:13)

By your Logic everything belongs to the ottoman empire and Hungary. For all we know, the ottoman empire and Hungary ruled longer over the balkan peninsula than any of the current nations.

delon

pre 6 godina

@ sasa
It seems We were to lazy to build anything to use as prove that we are native to the Balkans. I don't want to use the name Constantinople as a empire city build by Illyrian emperor.
The thing is we can prove you slavsrp came on 7 century in the Balkans. Now if u have the balls to prove same thing for Albanians, just do it. I 'll live it here.

sj

pre 6 godina

@ slavsrb v ratmica
Albanians new comers in the Illyrian Peninsula?!

PROVE IT!!
(delon, 21 August 2017 16:57)


You prove that Albanians have been there since time immemorial and please don’t use the Illyrians because you are not Illyrians. Show me evidence of Albanian occupation of that region that goes back for centuries. You have no evidence whatsoever. There is not even a cave painting.

Bilbao

pre 6 godina

It all comes back to same question...If Albanians are "entitled" to land lost hundreds of years ago, is EVERY country entitled to getting back "lost" land? Are the Indians or Mexicans "entitled" to the land of the USA? WHO makes those decisions of who gets what back?
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 18:13)

Let me put it this way:

You lost the war, just like Hungary lost the war and lost Vojvodina and now it belongs to Serbia.

Texas does not want to join Mexico so that is a big difference, Mexicans in Texas work hard to become US citizens.

This is how cookies crumble, you lost the war fair not fair it is what it is, there are only 2% Serbs living in Kosovo hence its ruled by ALbanians.

Kosovo to Serbia is same as Vojvodina to Hungary just Hungarians have moved on and do not hold on.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Gjon Marku - That is EXACTLY my point...how much has the world and borders changed hands? How many times? Who has the right to go back and claim this was mine hundreds of years ago? No one has answered this question because their is no answer other than "Might makes Right"! Today you claim yours, tomorrow we will claim ours, and so on...except no one today is smart enough to see that the future children will pay with their blood...but that's ok, as long as it's not mine....NEGOTIATE!!!

Prishtina(County of Gollak

pre 6 godina

Thank you Republika e Maqedonise,thanks for realising that Serbs got no say in balkans coz they are Iranian race ,greeting from Republika e Kosoves to Republika e Maqedonise & to Zoran Zaev

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

@ sasa
It seems We were to lazy to build anything to use as prove that we are native to the Balkans. I don't want to use the name Constantinople as a empire city build by Illyrian emperor.
The thing is we can prove you slavsrp came on 7 century in the Balkans. Now if u have the balls to prove same thing for Albanians, just do it. I 'll live it here.
(delon, 21 August 2017 23:26) # Comment link

You dont need to prove anything. The serb orthodox church has recordings since the Nemanja dynasty. Its not your fault that sasa is too ignorant and dont even believe his own spiritual leaders

sj

pre 6 godina

(adi_bucharest, 21 August 2017 16:26)

Go to Montenegro and see for yourself. Montenegro has no industry; it has a service economy which means restaurants, hotels, transport etc. It’s a net importer of food and its only source of income is tourism which generally lasts 3 months.

I have been to Montenegro many times in 2015 and I will be back there next year. Montenegro would collapse if the EU did not provide aid.

Montenegro has an average salary of 500 euros while in Serbia its 380 euros and you say Bulgaria is 400 euros. Both Bulgaria and Serbia are much larger economies and yet Montenegro that lives off tourism which last 3 months has a higher average salary and better lifestyle???????? Something stinks in those calculations. Don’t believe everything you read.

Perhaps they should not use aid money when calculating the GDP. That is the problem.

Kosovo this year will have growth rate of 4% and yet it also does not have industry or tourism. When calculating growth, they take into account money sent back to Kosovo by family who work in the EU and that is why GDP/growth rates have become a joke.

HisStory.

pre 6 godina

@ slavsrb v ratmica 
Albanians new comers in the Illyrian Peninsula?! 

PROVE IT!! 
(delon, 21 August 2017 16:57) 

Funny story i heard about Albanian logic when it comes to history.

Three engineers (one each from Germany, Russia and Albania) chat online about how long there country has had the internet.
To prove it the German engineer digs a 1m hole in his backyard and finds a fibre optic cable and concludes that Germany has had the internet for over 20 years.
The Russian engineer then digs a 2m hole in his backyard and finds a copper phone line and concludes that Russia has had the internet for over 30 years.
Not to be out done, the Albanian engineer digs a 5m hole in his backyard but finds nothing, he then digs a further 10m hole and still finds nothing, so the Albanian engineer concludes that Albania has had WiFi access to the internet for at least 100 years

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Bilbao - your logic points to "Might makes Right"...The problem though is that you do not teach your kids this. We call that Bullying. We do not teach our kids that Bullying is ok as long as it's done by someone a lot stronger. That logic is Unchristian! I'm not sure if Islam condemns this, but regardless...its WRONG! You are right, where do we start and stop with this problem...and WHO gets what back? You're right about Vojvodina & Hungaria, do the Magyars have a right now to get it back? WHY NOT, the Albanians get "Kosova"!
I think you see the point, yet I don't think you're up to confronting this problem head-on...maybe because this time, it suits you...but what happens when they come knocking at your door...you will be looking for a international law to protect you, but....

rote

pre 6 godina

By your Logic everything belongs to the ottoman empire and Hungary. For all we know, the ottoman empire and Hungary ruled longer over the balkan peninsula than any of the current nations.
(Gjon Marku, 21 August 2017 19:25)

Idiot, Hungary (Velikoe Kniajestvo Ugorskoe), the Ottomans (Velikaja Porta) and the Balkans (Velikoe Knizhestvo Bulgarskoe) - all belonged to the Great Horde aka Velikoe Gosudarstvo aka India aka Sarmatia aka Scythia aka Great Roman Empire aka Mongol-Tatar aka Great Tartaria aka Gardariki aka White Horde aka Ruthenia aka Belaja Rus aka Mamelukes aka Rashka ect.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The thing is we can prove you slavsrp came on 7 century in the Balkans. Now if u have the balls to prove same thing for Albanians, just do it. I 'll live it here.
(delon, 21 August 2017 23:26)
============
Actually it is your responsibility to prove that you were there long before us. You're the one making that claim.
We have all the evidence we need for us but after all the time we've been asking for you guys to provide evidence of your history on the land we still get nothing.
If we don't have evidence of you being there is that the proof you need?
Indigenous people all around the globe have proof of their time on the land even if it's paintings in caves. Where's yours?

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Delon, ,provide it that Albanians have been more than 300 years in the Balkans ,with a momentum ,bridge,building,or anything Albanians build .))))
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 21 August 2017 21:32)
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You know how many times they've been asked to do that and so far not one has been able to do it.
That's because there is no evidence. Even the most primitive have left some trace.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

By your Logic everything belongs to the ottoman empire and Hungary. For all we know, the ottoman empire and Hungary ruled longer over the balkan peninsula than any of the current nations.
(Gjon Marku, 21 August 2017 19:25)
====================
And who did they take Constantinople from and how long did that civilization inhabit the land before the Turks?
Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
By your logic might makes right.
Wait for the next chapter then.

The Professor

pre 6 godina

As someone who just finished a Balkan trip, the rankings I'd say are:

1. Croatia
2. Bulgaria
3. Romania
4. Montenegro
5. Macedonia
6. Serbia
7. Albania

With the biggest potential for growth belonging to Bulgaria and Romania. The guy on here saying Serbs live better than Bulgarians - lol. At the present moment, in my eyes, Bulgaria is better than Serbia in every way possible, from tourism to innovation, from infrastructure to development speed, from public transport to GDP per capita.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Hey Nutty Professor !

In regards to our current Serbian economic prosperity all I can say is we can Thank the USA, England and Germany for all they have contributed especially the U-235 bombs for the situation we Serbian people are in today !!!

Reader

pre 6 godina

nope, this is Dacic trying to create problems for Macedonia under orders from Russia. Macedonia's wish to join NATO is the trigger for this behavior. Kosovo's UNESCO bid is just a pretext. Macedonia supported Kosovo before too, this reaction did not happen then.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
(Peggy, 22 August 2017 02:59)

Oh, that's great since it means that Albanians have something in common with Serbs...

Avni

pre 6 godina

Hey Serbs what is this?

Consular affairs staffers to return to Skopje next week //www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2017&mm=08&dd=22&nav_id=102134

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
(Peggy, 22 August 2017 02:59)

Oh, that's great since it means that Albanians have something in common with Serbs...
(icj1, 22 August 2017 19:48)
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Never post comments when high or drunk.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

That's great that even you realised that your statement would be meaningless without that clarification. Let's see if it will make more sense once you write the clarification that you did not forget about lol
(icj1, 23 August 2017 02:51)

LOL, you can do it, sweetie! I know it hurts, but think! Everyone else know what I meant and you can too!...take your time, we'll wait;)

Pemi

pre 6 godina

What chance have Serbia if lost this Montengro ?

I am a Romanian from Romania wish we were small as Montengro ,we are as a pig , how was if we were only Bucharest and Constanta
(adi_bucharest,

What the hell is this Romanian talking about?!?!?!

icj1

pre 6 godina

but what happens when they come knocking at your door...
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 20:06)

Well, you forgot to clarify who would be coming to knock at whose door and for what! You are very confused dear...

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@icj1 - LOL, no, I didn't forget, sweetie. Notice how everybody else understood? Your brain just doesn't have the capacity to understand. That's ok, sweetie, it's not your fault, God just made us all different, that's all;)Keep trying and everything will eventually become clearer. LOL

Joseph

pre 6 godina

According to the. British Israel world federation Albanians are of the ten lost tribes who migrated from Babylon. On the way northwest to the U.K. Since genesis11:8 was the only virgin migration, basically.

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Montengro is the future of East Europe and of the Balkan as economy

it have tourism and 20% of gdp as industry

they have a fantastic potentional

they already have average salary over 500 euro they are a strong country

i think this small Montengru with huge tourism potential is the tiger

Montengro => the tiger . Romania => is to big for can develop , Albania => no infrastructure , Serbia => it lost the Montengro which is equivalent with with 1999 war and sanctions . The demage for Serbia to lose Montengro is fantastic is a LETHAL BLOW OF WEST .

What chance have Serbia if lost this Montengro ?

I am a Romanian from Romania wish we were small as Montengro ,we are as a pig , how was if we were only Bucharest and Constanta

Bilbao

pre 6 godina

I think you see the point, yet I don't think you're up to confronting this problem head-on...maybe because this time, it suits you...but what happens when they come knocking at your door...you will be looking for a international law to protect you, but....
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 20:06)

This does not suit me nor effect me any way so that we are cleare.

Serbia had a chance to solve this peacefully with Rugova however they did not, if Serbia gave Albanians same rights they want for Serbs in Kosovo today Kosovo and Montenegro would be part of it.

Serbia always had a solution for Kosovo without Albanians in it or at least not all of them there, they pushed their hand thinking they will not be stoped but they did.

Serbia benefited from some war lost in this this is the weal of History, it happens all over the world even French and British did this just that this part of world is dealing with this much later.

We can not solve problem with the past but with today and 96% of population of Kosovo do not want to live within Serbia - Hence solution with people today not with History as Serbia lost Kosovo in 1389 then it gained it in 1912 lost it again in 1999.

Joining EU will ease tensions in region as people will focus in prosperity not who was there first, Alzas used to be German today is French and no big deal people live in France and work in Germany this will be in Kosovo and Serbia in 20 years.

Darko

pre 6 godina

With those stupid games serbia is just trying to look important and to get some attention. LOL
You can be important only if you are not poor anymore. Or if your unemploiment is not 12% anymore.
Not with those stupid games.
With this you are just becoming a joke..

icj1

pre 6 godina

but what happens when they come knocking at your door...
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 20:06)

Well, you forgot to clarify who would be coming to knock at whose door and for what! You are very confused dear...
(icj1, 22 August 2017 19:43)

@icj1 - LOL, no, I didn't forget, sweetie.
(Watcher, 22 August 2017 20:43)

That's great that even you realised that your statement would be meaningless without that clarification. Let's see if it will make more sense once you write the clarification that you did not forget about lol

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Well, I just quoted your statement that "Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans" which makes them similar to the Serbs, who also don't belong to Balkans.
(icj1, 24 August 2017 01:24
=================
You insist on making a fool of yourself. I feel sorry for you.
Serbs DO HAVE PROOF of their time in Balkans. We have monuments, churches and monasteries.
What proof do you have? You cannot compare yourselves to us.
Do you have a problem with comprehension?
Maybe you're not high or drunk. Maybe you really are just that stupid.

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

For Sj and Professor the average salary from Serbia is 413 euro http://www.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/Public/PageView.aspx?pKey=2 this info is from Serbia statistic office + Vucic said until end of the year it will be 500 euro .

Albania is impossible to ever be as Serbia because they are primitive , btw from where is here VICTORY99 people don`t hate me anymore i even get green likes at comments .

Before here people were pissed off on me , now they have more Albanians

This website is popular tumorrow i will give link that in Romania they show the comments of Dragoljub Djurkovic

In my opinion for future developments as people to live good and the country to be strong

1) Czech Republic
2) Slovakia
3) Poland
4) Montenegro
5) Hungary
6) Croatia
7) Serbia
8) Romania
9) Macedonia
10) Bulgaria
11) Bosnia
12) Albania
13) Kosovo

I mentioned Balkan Peninsula + former Cehoslovakia , i forgot Turkey

Joseph

pre 6 godina

Free nations.net says nation-states are ordained by God jehovah. Through prayer and personal righteousness, i.e. obedience one can get back what jehoval has given to manage. Remember god turned Esau,a heart when Jacob wrestled with the angel. Genesis32and33. (So. diff --- I consider Gavrilo P very wrong He was not aware of bible way. The

rote

pre 6 godina

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Buda Pest

pre 6 godina

Hungary, Bulgaria and Croatia are the kings of the Balkans. They have the brightest future by far, and will lead the Balkans into an era of prosperity.

Albania and Serbia need to be shipped to Africa. Romaniland can join them.

Rote

pre 6 godina

Koseph none of the tribes has vanished. 10 of them were fomed in mainland Horde in Rus and 2 in Judea maybe Turkey and Balkans. None of the 12 tribed was Jewish while Israel was one of the names of Rus. Especially when religious issues were staked. Israel was not in one plsce but where the Orthodox Patriarh had his residence. Current Israel was establishef by Napoleon in 1798 and then supported by the Brits after 1811.

icj1

pre 6 godina

That's great that even you realised that your statement would be meaningless without that clarification. Let's see if it will make more sense once you write the clarification that you did not forget about lol
(icj1, 23 August 2017 02:51)

LOL, you can do it, sweetie!
(Watcher, 23 August 2017 16:34)

I can clarify your nonsense writings?! lol That's your job, dear, not mine...

icj1

pre 6 godina

Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
(Peggy, 22 August 2017 02:59)

Oh, that's great since it means that Albanians have something in common with Serbs...
(icj1, 22 August 2017 19:48)

Never post comments when high or drunk.
(Peggy, 23 August 2017 01:34)

Well, I just quoted your statement that "Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans" which makes them similar to the Serbs, who also don't belong to Balkans. If you were high or drunk when you posted your comment, I'm sorry for quoting it... Next time you might want to add a note with your comments confirming your soberness so members of these forums know whether it is appropriate to quote them or not.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Serbs DO HAVE PROOF of their time in Balkans.
(Peggy, 24 August 2017 14:17)

I'm glad that you finally realised that, similarly to the other nations, Serbs also do have proof of their time in the territory where they currently live (i.e. the Balkans).
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What proof do you have?
(Peggy, 24 August 2017 14:17)

Proof about what, dear?!
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You cannot compare yourselves to us.
(Peggy, 24 August 2017 14:17)

Rest assured dear that I don't compare myself to somebody full of hate like you!

delon

pre 6 godina

Now the West finally has realise what monster created on 1912-1918 supporting creation of slavsrbia on expenses of historical Albanian territories. Slavsrbia is turned completely into Russian puppet and against its creators,the Western powers. Keep up the good work slavsrb

Bilbao

pre 6 godina

It all comes back to same question...If Albanians are "entitled" to land lost hundreds of years ago, is EVERY country entitled to getting back "lost" land? Are the Indians or Mexicans "entitled" to the land of the USA? WHO makes those decisions of who gets what back?
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 18:13)

Let me put it this way:

You lost the war, just like Hungary lost the war and lost Vojvodina and now it belongs to Serbia.

Texas does not want to join Mexico so that is a big difference, Mexicans in Texas work hard to become US citizens.

This is how cookies crumble, you lost the war fair not fair it is what it is, there are only 2% Serbs living in Kosovo hence its ruled by ALbanians.

Kosovo to Serbia is same as Vojvodina to Hungary just Hungarians have moved on and do not hold on.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Srbija needs to take back their recent support for Macedonia and give full support to Greece. Greece people were always and will be always Serbian friends ! Srbija needs to treat Makedonija the same as they would Islamic terrorist Albania ! Makedonija was poisoned a very long time ago by anti Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity Islamic Ottoman Empire thinking ! Every person in my life I met or knew from Makedonija is two faced and had a bitter attitude towards Serbian people ! Some thing strange there and I say if they want to spit on their faith and to be connected to Albanian Islamic terroist then let them be with them !!!

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Montengro is the future of East Europe and of the Balkan as economy

it have tourism and 20% of gdp as industry

they have a fantastic potentional

they already have average salary over 500 euro they are a strong country

i think this small Montengru with huge tourism potential is the tiger

Montengro => the tiger . Romania => is to big for can develop , Albania => no infrastructure , Serbia => it lost the Montengro which is equivalent with with 1999 war and sanctions . The demage for Serbia to lose Montengro is fantastic is a LETHAL BLOW OF WEST .

What chance have Serbia if lost this Montengro ?

I am a Romanian from Romania wish we were small as Montengro ,we are as a pig , how was if we were only Bucharest and Constanta

Watcher

pre 6 godina

It all comes back to same question...If Albanians are "entitled" to land lost hundreds of years ago, is EVERY country entitled to getting back "lost" land? Are the Indians or Mexicans "entitled" to the land of the USA? WHO makes those decisions of who gets what back? THIS is why the "Kosovo" precedent is not a viable plan. It is for the Albanians, but why stop there? Are Albanians so special that only they get to retract history? Or is it because the STRONGEST countries say so and it must be so??? In that case, might makes right...which only leads to bloodshed and war...something that SATAN loves!! With GOD, might never overruled right..if it did, we ALL would be history. Things to ponder about!

Vratnica

pre 6 godina

Hey troll delon,

Albanian territories since when.....since thousands of albanians from ljume flocked into southeastern kosovo and polog region in the 18th century!! You are 250yr old newcomers to those lands who multplied like rabbits from the 19th cent to the 1990s. Wait, of course, you still say those are illyrian lands and you were pushed back from dardania into the mountains, therefore you still have rights to these 'lost lands', etc etc. Get over it. Most serbs are not even Slavs, only 18% are which is the R1a gene. I2a and EV13 are native to the balkans.

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

It all comes back to same question...If Albanians are "entitled" to land lost hundreds of years ago, is EVERY country entitled to getting back "lost" land? Are the Indians or Mexicans "entitled" to the land of the USA? WHO makes those decisions of who gets what back? THIS is why the "Kosovo" precedent is not a viable plan. It is for the Albanians, but why stop there? Are Albanians so special that only they get to retract history? Or is it because the STRONGEST countries say so and it must be so??? In that case, might makes right...which only leads to bloodshed and war...something that SATAN loves!! With GOD, might never overruled right..if it did, we ALL would be history. Things to ponder about!
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 18:13)

By your Logic everything belongs to the ottoman empire and Hungary. For all we know, the ottoman empire and Hungary ruled longer over the balkan peninsula than any of the current nations.

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

For Sj from an old topic about Croatia

Sj i said Montenegro is richer than Bulgaria and you said Bulgaria is richer than Montengero because Montengero
don`t have have industry . Montengro have 20% industry in gdp .

In numbers Bulgaria is richer than Montengro but the people from Montengro are more rich , they live better

In Montengro average salary is 500 euro in Bulgaria 400

Bulgaria have everyting less than Serbia from minimum salary to pensions

Prishtina(County of Gollak

pre 6 godina

Thank you Republika e Maqedonise,thanks for realising that Serbs got no say in balkans coz they are Iranian race ,greeting from Republika e Kosoves to Republika e Maqedonise & to Zoran Zaev

rote

pre 6 godina

By your Logic everything belongs to the ottoman empire and Hungary. For all we know, the ottoman empire and Hungary ruled longer over the balkan peninsula than any of the current nations.
(Gjon Marku, 21 August 2017 19:25)

Idiot, Hungary (Velikoe Kniajestvo Ugorskoe), the Ottomans (Velikaja Porta) and the Balkans (Velikoe Knizhestvo Bulgarskoe) - all belonged to the Great Horde aka Velikoe Gosudarstvo aka India aka Sarmatia aka Scythia aka Great Roman Empire aka Mongol-Tatar aka Great Tartaria aka Gardariki aka White Horde aka Ruthenia aka Belaja Rus aka Mamelukes aka Rashka ect.

delon

pre 6 godina

@ sasa
It seems We were to lazy to build anything to use as prove that we are native to the Balkans. I don't want to use the name Constantinople as a empire city build by Illyrian emperor.
The thing is we can prove you slavsrp came on 7 century in the Balkans. Now if u have the balls to prove same thing for Albanians, just do it. I 'll live it here.

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

@ sasa
It seems We were to lazy to build anything to use as prove that we are native to the Balkans. I don't want to use the name Constantinople as a empire city build by Illyrian emperor.
The thing is we can prove you slavsrp came on 7 century in the Balkans. Now if u have the balls to prove same thing for Albanians, just do it. I 'll live it here.
(delon, 21 August 2017 23:26) # Comment link

You dont need to prove anything. The serb orthodox church has recordings since the Nemanja dynasty. Its not your fault that sasa is too ignorant and dont even believe his own spiritual leaders

Darko

pre 6 godina

With those stupid games serbia is just trying to look important and to get some attention. LOL
You can be important only if you are not poor anymore. Or if your unemploiment is not 12% anymore.
Not with those stupid games.
With this you are just becoming a joke..

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 6 godina

@ slavsrb v ratmica
Albanians new comers in the Illyrian Peninsula?!

PROVE IT!!
(delon, 21 August 2017 16:57) #

Delon, ,provide it that Albanians have been more than 300 years in the Balkans ,with a momentum ,bridge,building,or anything Albanians build .))))

The Professor

pre 6 godina

As someone who just finished a Balkan trip, the rankings I'd say are:

1. Croatia
2. Bulgaria
3. Romania
4. Montenegro
5. Macedonia
6. Serbia
7. Albania

With the biggest potential for growth belonging to Bulgaria and Romania. The guy on here saying Serbs live better than Bulgarians - lol. At the present moment, in my eyes, Bulgaria is better than Serbia in every way possible, from tourism to innovation, from infrastructure to development speed, from public transport to GDP per capita.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Gjon Marku - That is EXACTLY my point...how much has the world and borders changed hands? How many times? Who has the right to go back and claim this was mine hundreds of years ago? No one has answered this question because their is no answer other than "Might makes Right"! Today you claim yours, tomorrow we will claim ours, and so on...except no one today is smart enough to see that the future children will pay with their blood...but that's ok, as long as it's not mine....NEGOTIATE!!!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Delon, ,provide it that Albanians have been more than 300 years in the Balkans ,with a momentum ,bridge,building,or anything Albanians build .))))
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 21 August 2017 21:32)
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You know how many times they've been asked to do that and so far not one has been able to do it.
That's because there is no evidence. Even the most primitive have left some trace.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Hey Nutty Professor !

In regards to our current Serbian economic prosperity all I can say is we can Thank the USA, England and Germany for all they have contributed especially the U-235 bombs for the situation we Serbian people are in today !!!

adi_bucharest

pre 6 godina

For Sj and Professor the average salary from Serbia is 413 euro http://www.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/Public/PageView.aspx?pKey=2 this info is from Serbia statistic office + Vucic said until end of the year it will be 500 euro .

Albania is impossible to ever be as Serbia because they are primitive , btw from where is here VICTORY99 people don`t hate me anymore i even get green likes at comments .

Before here people were pissed off on me , now they have more Albanians

This website is popular tumorrow i will give link that in Romania they show the comments of Dragoljub Djurkovic

In my opinion for future developments as people to live good and the country to be strong

1) Czech Republic
2) Slovakia
3) Poland
4) Montenegro
5) Hungary
6) Croatia
7) Serbia
8) Romania
9) Macedonia
10) Bulgaria
11) Bosnia
12) Albania
13) Kosovo

I mentioned Balkan Peninsula + former Cehoslovakia , i forgot Turkey

Rote

pre 6 godina

Koseph none of the tribes has vanished. 10 of them were fomed in mainland Horde in Rus and 2 in Judea maybe Turkey and Balkans. None of the 12 tribed was Jewish while Israel was one of the names of Rus. Especially when religious issues were staked. Israel was not in one plsce but where the Orthodox Patriarh had his residence. Current Israel was establishef by Napoleon in 1798 and then supported by the Brits after 1811.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Bilbao - your logic points to "Might makes Right"...The problem though is that you do not teach your kids this. We call that Bullying. We do not teach our kids that Bullying is ok as long as it's done by someone a lot stronger. That logic is Unchristian! I'm not sure if Islam condemns this, but regardless...its WRONG! You are right, where do we start and stop with this problem...and WHO gets what back? You're right about Vojvodina & Hungaria, do the Magyars have a right now to get it back? WHY NOT, the Albanians get "Kosova"!
I think you see the point, yet I don't think you're up to confronting this problem head-on...maybe because this time, it suits you...but what happens when they come knocking at your door...you will be looking for a international law to protect you, but....

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 6 godina

You dont need to prove anything. The serb orthodox church has recordings since the Nemanja dynasty. Its not your fault that sasa is too ignorant and dont even believe his own spiritual leaders
(Gjon Marku, 22 August 2017 09:05)

We read with your comments that you are ignorant one and uneducated .
You have got no evidence that Albanians where in Balkans for over 2,000 years ))
Still a waiter in Melbourne coffee shops ,serving tables 😀))

sj

pre 6 godina

@ slavsrb v ratmica
Albanians new comers in the Illyrian Peninsula?!

PROVE IT!!
(delon, 21 August 2017 16:57)


You prove that Albanians have been there since time immemorial and please don’t use the Illyrians because you are not Illyrians. Show me evidence of Albanian occupation of that region that goes back for centuries. You have no evidence whatsoever. There is not even a cave painting.

rote

pre 6 godina

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icj1

pre 6 godina

but what happens when they come knocking at your door...
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 20:06)

Well, you forgot to clarify who would be coming to knock at whose door and for what! You are very confused dear...

icj1

pre 6 godina

Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
(Peggy, 22 August 2017 02:59)

Oh, that's great since it means that Albanians have something in common with Serbs...

Buda Pest

pre 6 godina

Hungary, Bulgaria and Croatia are the kings of the Balkans. They have the brightest future by far, and will lead the Balkans into an era of prosperity.

Albania and Serbia need to be shipped to Africa. Romaniland can join them.

icj1

pre 6 godina

but what happens when they come knocking at your door...
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 20:06)

Well, you forgot to clarify who would be coming to knock at whose door and for what! You are very confused dear...
(icj1, 22 August 2017 19:43)

@icj1 - LOL, no, I didn't forget, sweetie.
(Watcher, 22 August 2017 20:43)

That's great that even you realised that your statement would be meaningless without that clarification. Let's see if it will make more sense once you write the clarification that you did not forget about lol

Dont be to sad

pre 6 godina

Nikos Dimou Greece - “It’s the fault of a German,” He was referring to Johann Winckelmann
“We used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans, but then Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us, ‘No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants of Plato and Socrates,’ and that did it. If a small, poor nation has such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never recover.”

Bilbao

pre 6 godina

I think you see the point, yet I don't think you're up to confronting this problem head-on...maybe because this time, it suits you...but what happens when they come knocking at your door...you will be looking for a international law to protect you, but....
(Watcher, 21 August 2017 20:06)

This does not suit me nor effect me any way so that we are cleare.

Serbia had a chance to solve this peacefully with Rugova however they did not, if Serbia gave Albanians same rights they want for Serbs in Kosovo today Kosovo and Montenegro would be part of it.

Serbia always had a solution for Kosovo without Albanians in it or at least not all of them there, they pushed their hand thinking they will not be stoped but they did.

Serbia benefited from some war lost in this this is the weal of History, it happens all over the world even French and British did this just that this part of world is dealing with this much later.

We can not solve problem with the past but with today and 96% of population of Kosovo do not want to live within Serbia - Hence solution with people today not with History as Serbia lost Kosovo in 1389 then it gained it in 1912 lost it again in 1999.

Joining EU will ease tensions in region as people will focus in prosperity not who was there first, Alzas used to be German today is French and no big deal people live in France and work in Germany this will be in Kosovo and Serbia in 20 years.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The thing is we can prove you slavsrp came on 7 century in the Balkans. Now if u have the balls to prove same thing for Albanians, just do it. I 'll live it here.
(delon, 21 August 2017 23:26)
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Actually it is your responsibility to prove that you were there long before us. You're the one making that claim.
We have all the evidence we need for us but after all the time we've been asking for you guys to provide evidence of your history on the land we still get nothing.
If we don't have evidence of you being there is that the proof you need?
Indigenous people all around the globe have proof of their time on the land even if it's paintings in caves. Where's yours?

Peggy

pre 6 godina

By your Logic everything belongs to the ottoman empire and Hungary. For all we know, the ottoman empire and Hungary ruled longer over the balkan peninsula than any of the current nations.
(Gjon Marku, 21 August 2017 19:25)
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And who did they take Constantinople from and how long did that civilization inhabit the land before the Turks?
Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
By your logic might makes right.
Wait for the next chapter then.

sj

pre 6 godina

(adi_bucharest, 21 August 2017 16:26)

Go to Montenegro and see for yourself. Montenegro has no industry; it has a service economy which means restaurants, hotels, transport etc. It’s a net importer of food and its only source of income is tourism which generally lasts 3 months.

I have been to Montenegro many times in 2015 and I will be back there next year. Montenegro would collapse if the EU did not provide aid.

Montenegro has an average salary of 500 euros while in Serbia its 380 euros and you say Bulgaria is 400 euros. Both Bulgaria and Serbia are much larger economies and yet Montenegro that lives off tourism which last 3 months has a higher average salary and better lifestyle???????? Something stinks in those calculations. Don’t believe everything you read.

Perhaps they should not use aid money when calculating the GDP. That is the problem.

Kosovo this year will have growth rate of 4% and yet it also does not have industry or tourism. When calculating growth, they take into account money sent back to Kosovo by family who work in the EU and that is why GDP/growth rates have become a joke.

Reader

pre 6 godina

nope, this is Dacic trying to create problems for Macedonia under orders from Russia. Macedonia's wish to join NATO is the trigger for this behavior. Kosovo's UNESCO bid is just a pretext. Macedonia supported Kosovo before too, this reaction did not happen then.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@icj1 - LOL, no, I didn't forget, sweetie. Notice how everybody else understood? Your brain just doesn't have the capacity to understand. That's ok, sweetie, it's not your fault, God just made us all different, that's all;)Keep trying and everything will eventually become clearer. LOL

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
(Peggy, 22 August 2017 02:59)

Oh, that's great since it means that Albanians have something in common with Serbs...
(icj1, 22 August 2017 19:48)
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Never post comments when high or drunk.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

That's great that even you realised that your statement would be meaningless without that clarification. Let's see if it will make more sense once you write the clarification that you did not forget about lol
(icj1, 23 August 2017 02:51)

LOL, you can do it, sweetie! I know it hurts, but think! Everyone else know what I meant and you can too!...take your time, we'll wait;)

icj1

pre 6 godina

Even if you could go back as far as you wanted to, Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans.
(Peggy, 22 August 2017 02:59)

Oh, that's great since it means that Albanians have something in common with Serbs...
(icj1, 22 August 2017 19:48)

Never post comments when high or drunk.
(Peggy, 23 August 2017 01:34)

Well, I just quoted your statement that "Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans" which makes them similar to the Serbs, who also don't belong to Balkans. If you were high or drunk when you posted your comment, I'm sorry for quoting it... Next time you might want to add a note with your comments confirming your soberness so members of these forums know whether it is appropriate to quote them or not.

HisStory.

pre 6 godina

@ slavsrb v ratmica 
Albanians new comers in the Illyrian Peninsula?! 

PROVE IT!! 
(delon, 21 August 2017 16:57) 

Funny story i heard about Albanian logic when it comes to history.

Three engineers (one each from Germany, Russia and Albania) chat online about how long there country has had the internet.
To prove it the German engineer digs a 1m hole in his backyard and finds a fibre optic cable and concludes that Germany has had the internet for over 20 years.
The Russian engineer then digs a 2m hole in his backyard and finds a copper phone line and concludes that Russia has had the internet for over 30 years.
Not to be out done, the Albanian engineer digs a 5m hole in his backyard but finds nothing, he then digs a further 10m hole and still finds nothing, so the Albanian engineer concludes that Albania has had WiFi access to the internet for at least 100 years

Avni

pre 6 godina

Hey Serbs what is this?

Consular affairs staffers to return to Skopje next week //www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2017&mm=08&dd=22&nav_id=102134

icj1

pre 6 godina

That's great that even you realised that your statement would be meaningless without that clarification. Let's see if it will make more sense once you write the clarification that you did not forget about lol
(icj1, 23 August 2017 02:51)

LOL, you can do it, sweetie!
(Watcher, 23 August 2017 16:34)

I can clarify your nonsense writings?! lol That's your job, dear, not mine...

icj1

pre 6 godina

Serbs DO HAVE PROOF of their time in Balkans.
(Peggy, 24 August 2017 14:17)

I'm glad that you finally realised that, similarly to the other nations, Serbs also do have proof of their time in the territory where they currently live (i.e. the Balkans).
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What proof do you have?
(Peggy, 24 August 2017 14:17)

Proof about what, dear?!
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You cannot compare yourselves to us.
(Peggy, 24 August 2017 14:17)

Rest assured dear that I don't compare myself to somebody full of hate like you!

Joseph

pre 6 godina

According to the. British Israel world federation Albanians are of the ten lost tribes who migrated from Babylon. On the way northwest to the U.K. Since genesis11:8 was the only virgin migration, basically.

Pemi

pre 6 godina

What chance have Serbia if lost this Montengro ?

I am a Romanian from Romania wish we were small as Montengro ,we are as a pig , how was if we were only Bucharest and Constanta
(adi_bucharest,

What the hell is this Romanian talking about?!?!?!

Joseph

pre 6 godina

Free nations.net says nation-states are ordained by God jehovah. Through prayer and personal righteousness, i.e. obedience one can get back what jehoval has given to manage. Remember god turned Esau,a heart when Jacob wrestled with the angel. Genesis32and33. (So. diff --- I consider Gavrilo P very wrong He was not aware of bible way. The

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Well, I just quoted your statement that "Albanians still don't have any proof of them belonging to Balkans" which makes them similar to the Serbs, who also don't belong to Balkans.
(icj1, 24 August 2017 01:24
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You insist on making a fool of yourself. I feel sorry for you.
Serbs DO HAVE PROOF of their time in Balkans. We have monuments, churches and monasteries.
What proof do you have? You cannot compare yourselves to us.
Do you have a problem with comprehension?
Maybe you're not high or drunk. Maybe you really are just that stupid.