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US and Russia "vying for influence over Serbia"

<a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2017&mm=07&dd=19&nav_id=101851" class="text-link" target= "_blank">Moscow's confirmation</a> that it was considering delivering S-300 missile systems to Serbia - only 48 hours after Aleksandar Vucic left the US - is no coincidence.

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rote

pre 6 godina

I used to think that Serbophobia and chronical idiotism were different diseases ... Tesls was a big friend of the USSR where he arrived as a Serb. It provided him top cooperation on Beria level. Especially when he was making his experiments with so called Tungus Meteorite. As a Croat he could do nothing here.

icj1

pre 6 godina

First. Tesla is a croat.
(Gjon Marku, 22 July 2017 01:02)

This alone shows how uneducated you are and invalidates your entire post. If you had any education you would know that a son of a Serbian priest and mother who is a daughter of a Serbian priest cannot possibly be a croat.
(Peggy, 24 July 2017 01:42)

Well, it was Tesla himself who was proud of his Croat homeland... That's what Gjon Marku was referring to. Are you implying that Tesla was uneducated for referring to his Croat homeland?!

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

So sad. Too many serbs still belive in myths and hold onto fairytails.

To paraphrase Vucic: Time to face reality and move away from myths.

Sad.

rote

pre 6 godina

Oh dear, If people say that Albanians didn't contribute anything to the civilized world, then stop using viagra for which we got Nobel Prize and see how fast you go down south, grandpa.
(icj, 23 July 2017 17:39)

albanians tributed very much but those weren't the shqiptars who just privatized the trade mark. i have no phobias and i believe that your people must have a state of it's own but practical implementation of the idea will be a long and a windy road ...

Peggy

pre 6 godina

First. Tesla is a croat. No need to steal from another nation

What did we produce? Lets not go back in history and stay in our
(Gjon Marku, 22 July 2017 01:02)
===========================
This alone shows how uneducated you are and invalidates your entire post. If you had any education you would know that a son of a Serbian priest and mother who is a daughter of a Serbian priest cannot possibly be a croat.
The only thing you can try to boast about is Mother Teresa but only in front of people who don't know better. Sure, she was declared a saint but Stjepanic was being considered too. When you look closely at her life and how she ran her "clinic" it becomes obvious she was quite the opposite.
So just because you and Croats haven't produced anything worthwhile isn't our fault. Stop adorning yourselves with other people's gold.

icj

pre 6 godina

Finally, if the Serbian contributions are so "mediocre", why don't you stop using Tesla's, Pupin's, Milankovic's and Einstein's inventions and see how fast you go back to the cave.
(DEDA CVETKO, 23 July 2017 00:05)

Oh dear, If people say that Albanians didn't contribute anything to the civilized world, then stop using viagra for which we got Nobel Prize and see how fast you go down south, grandpa.

rote

pre 6 godina

DEDA CVETKO : Second: Mileva Einstein's contribution to Einstein's work have been amply researched and documented.

Not only documented but she also received USD 1Mln from him for keeping her mouths shut. Besides she gave him not all the formulas so he could explain very little about his "own" theory ...


Moderate Serb : If Russia really wants to win over Serbia, they would pi$$ on our wild fires as they do to the rest of Serbia.

This summer the wildfires on the Balkans were peanuts compared to those in Siberia where 20 000 - 40 000 hectares were parallel burning in several regions ...


John : Russia always wins

... in the end

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

First. Tesla is a croat. No need to steal from another nation
Second: Mileva has not published any scientific works. Only thing she did was getting married to Albert Einstein.

What did we produce? Lets not go back in history and stay in our time. We have contributed an armada of international popstars. A saint (Mother Theresa) and a nobel prize winner in medicine (Dr. Ferid Murad).

Your contribution to the world has been mediocre at best.
(Gjon Marku, 22 July 2017 01:02)

--

First: If Tesla were a Croat, why did he publicly declare himself a Serb?
(Ditto Ivo Andric, BTW). It is the Croats and Albanians who have been stealing from the Serbs, not the other way around.

Second: Mileva Einstein's contribution to Einstein's work have been amply researched and documented.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-forgotten-life-of-einsteins-first-wife/

Third: You have produced an armada of pop stars nobody has ever heard of.

Fourth. Mother Theresa was born in today's Macedonia, former Ottoman Empire, WHEN ALBANIA DIDN'T EVEN EXIST. In any event, it is funny to the point of being hilarious that 95% moslem population of Kosovo is all to eager to espouse a (gasp!) Catholic nun as one of their own. What's next? Buddha was an Albanian, too?

Finally, if the Serbian contributions are so "mediocre", why don't you stop using Tesla's, Pupin's, Milankovic's and Einstein's inventions and see how fast you go back to the cave.

АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 6 godina

Switzerland has no history of trying to kill all their neighbors. They have never committed genocide or ethnic cleansing and they have not been bombed by the west for repeatedly committing warcrimes.
(Gjon Marku, 21 July 2017 22:30)

in the middle ages this place was called BERNARD = BERN ARDA = BERN HORDE ... wanna know more?

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

Serbia has had zero years of peace and very few years of democracy and what did we give to the world? : (a) electrical power for every electrical appliance you are using (b) every long-distance call you are making (c) the world's finest and most sophisticated calendar and (e) the world's simplest and most elegant alphabet, among other things. Just ask Mileva Einstein, whom I assure you was NOT an Albanian.

Speaking of which...remind me, please...what did Albanians contribute to the European civilization? Blood feuds, honor killings, 95% of all cocaine trade and the world's most sophisticated Daesh-recruiting operation?
(DEDA CVETKO, 21 July 2017 23:55)

First. Tesla is a croat. No need to steal from another nation
Second: Mileva has not published any scientific works. Only thing she did was getting married to Albert Einstein.

What did we produce? Lets not go back in history and stay in our time. We have contributed an armada of international popstars. The best dope in the world. A saint (Mother Theresa) and a nobel prize winner in medicine (Dr. Ferid Murad).

Your contribution to the world has been mediocre at best.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ Gojn Marku - If that makes you sleep better at night thinking like that. War atrocities happened from ALL sides, genius!
The fall of Jugoslavia, K&M included, was a Western plan of Divide & Conquer! And they needed idio...I mean, pawns in order to pull it off. Looks like they found them in ignorant people like YOU! You're not worth the air you breath thinking that the west was not going to continue the rape of YU with K&M...

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

You see, Switzerland is a good benchmark but you`r not quite there.
(Gjon Marku, 21 July 2017 22:30)

--

"Switzerland had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock!."

- Orson Welles.

Serbia has had zero years of peace and very few years of democracy and what did we give to the world? : (a) electrical power for every electrical appliance you are using (b) every long-distance call you are making (c) the world's finest and most sophisticated calendar and (e) the world's simplest and most elegant alphabet, among other things. Just ask Mileva Einstein, whom I assure you was NOT an Albanian.

Speaking of which...remind me, please...what did Albanians contribute to the European civilization? Blood feuds, honor killings, 95% of all cocaine trade and the world's most sophisticated Daesh-recruiting operation?

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

So what? Switzerland is surrounded on all sides (except the tiny border with Austria) by EU and NATO countries, and yet it is neither, and has no intention whatsoever of becoming either.

(DEDA CVETKO, 21 July 2017 21:32)

There is one difference though. Switzerland has no history of trying to kill all their neighbors. They have never committed genocide or ethnic cleansing and they have not been bombed by the west for repeatedly committing warcrimes. Switzerland also didnt celebrate 9/11 or burned foreign embassies.

You see, Switzerland is a good benchmark but you`r not quite there.

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

Are they talking about the same Serbia that wants to join EU, and is surrounded by NATO and EU countries?
(Avni, 21 July 2017 20:43)

--

So what? Switzerland is surrounded on all sides (except the tiny border with Austria) by EU and NATO countries, and yet it is neither, and has no intention whatsoever of becoming either.

And, oh. Serbia is not "surrounded by NATO": neither Bosnia nor Macedonia (roughly 20% of the nation's borders) are NATO members.

Get my drift? Need a map?

Hank the Tank

pre 6 godina

Avni

Romania and Bulgaria are preventing these planed from flying over their territory but they can't prevent them from reaching Serbia eventually. Next time read the compleat article you fool.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Are they talking about the same Serbia that wants to join EU, and is surrounded by NATO and EU countries? If this example doesn't prove the point I don't know what will:

Romania, Bulgaria block Russian fighters from reaching Serbia https://www.romania-insider.com/romania-bulgaria-block-russian-fighters-reaching-serbia/

Brian Niven

pre 6 godina

Russia should not do this! serbia has ipap with NATO. Serbia has military exercises with NATO and NATO officials have access to all of Serbia. These weapons will go right to NATO control. Serbia is desperate to be in NATO.

fas

pre 6 godina

@Rote:

Did you skip the subject matter? Hypothetically, Russia could of course protect Serbia with anything, nukes even IF IT WANTED TO but this was about Serbia defending itself, at least initially, hence the need for a good deterrence with a proven sobering effect on US/NATO war hawks.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 6 godina

Whom knows the Divine Future of Serbia ?
Whom has said that Serbia is small ?

The Serbians will Rise and,
in a wery short time you will all see it.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Vidovdan&&view=detail&mid=1762094608582D4796CB1762094608582D4796CB&FORM=VRDGAR


"My Bodyhair stands on end by the Spirit behind this (National)- Serbian Heart".

Serbia forever !.

Arn.Sweden.

ivan

pre 6 godina

Everyone is after their own interests. I believe that Russia was supposed to have delivered the MiGs in April then in July and now by the end of the year. Belarus was supposed to have provided the S-300 sometime ago and nothing. It's like Serbia is courting two lovers both dying for her affection. Putin could have delivered on everything and more, but is waiting pending on diplomatic status for the humanitarian center. Serbia is the real culprit here. There is no big deal in granting the Russians equal status, as a matter of fact, they deserve it, and more. If Serbia would only rightfully do her part and accommodate the Russians the way they deserve to be, we would be in a better situation, but Serbia is just being a whore!!

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

US and Russia may or may not be "vying for influence over Serbia", but only ONE of those two parties had bombed Serbia for 79 days in a row, killed 5000+ people,annexed 1/5 of its territory by force, destroyed $100,000,000,000.00 worth of industrial and economic infrastructure and sprinkled 18 tons of uranium on its land, making it a cancerous hellhole in the heart of Europe.

Can you guess which? Hint: it's not Russia.

rote

pre 6 godina

fas

it's 2017 today not 1999 ! to cover serbia russia don't have to be even present on the battlefield. the calibers and the new x-101 criuse missiles has upto 4 000 km range and can be fired from the russian soil and air. besides s-300 will be supplied by medium and short range tor and panzir systems that work much better together. good helicopters and t-90 ect. will make you safe. also remember that our tartus and hmeimim bases in syria are also our bases in the adriatics ... our war ships can make all nato vehicles, ams and tools in the region blind as you know ... so things run good enough.

fas

pre 6 godina

S-300's within Serbia, surrounded by hostile NATO slave states as it is, will have a very sobering effect on the cocky alliance cowards.

Serbia could if threatened, at will, create a NFZ like the Russians and the Syrians did in Syria. No US plane has been stupid enough to breach that one yet. They are in fact desperately trying to have it removed so they can start bombing Syrian anti-terrorist forces and halt their advances against US's cutthroat mercenaries as well as Syrian civilian infrastructure.No such luck yet. A Serbian NFZ if erected would partly include neighbouring states also.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Things aren't going too well for the West, the whole alliance is falling apart and Russia/China are there to step in. Infighting between Germany and Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, UK and EU, white house and deep state - to mention a few.

The West lost Serbia in the early 90s while Serbia is playing a balancing act for the moment, with lots of benefits coming our way. Also, now that John McCain is gone, there will be less pressure.

Looks like a good position to be in at the moment.

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

US and Russia may or may not be "vying for influence over Serbia", but only ONE of those two parties had bombed Serbia for 79 days in a row, killed 5000+ people,annexed 1/5 of its territory by force, destroyed $100,000,000,000.00 worth of industrial and economic infrastructure and sprinkled 18 tons of uranium on its land, making it a cancerous hellhole in the heart of Europe.

Can you guess which? Hint: it's not Russia.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Things aren't going too well for the West, the whole alliance is falling apart and Russia/China are there to step in. Infighting between Germany and Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, UK and EU, white house and deep state - to mention a few.

The West lost Serbia in the early 90s while Serbia is playing a balancing act for the moment, with lots of benefits coming our way. Also, now that John McCain is gone, there will be less pressure.

Looks like a good position to be in at the moment.

fas

pre 6 godina

S-300's within Serbia, surrounded by hostile NATO slave states as it is, will have a very sobering effect on the cocky alliance cowards.

Serbia could if threatened, at will, create a NFZ like the Russians and the Syrians did in Syria. No US plane has been stupid enough to breach that one yet. They are in fact desperately trying to have it removed so they can start bombing Syrian anti-terrorist forces and halt their advances against US's cutthroat mercenaries as well as Syrian civilian infrastructure.No such luck yet. A Serbian NFZ if erected would partly include neighbouring states also.

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

You see, Switzerland is a good benchmark but you`r not quite there.
(Gjon Marku, 21 July 2017 22:30)

--

"Switzerland had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock!."

- Orson Welles.

Serbia has had zero years of peace and very few years of democracy and what did we give to the world? : (a) electrical power for every electrical appliance you are using (b) every long-distance call you are making (c) the world's finest and most sophisticated calendar and (e) the world's simplest and most elegant alphabet, among other things. Just ask Mileva Einstein, whom I assure you was NOT an Albanian.

Speaking of which...remind me, please...what did Albanians contribute to the European civilization? Blood feuds, honor killings, 95% of all cocaine trade and the world's most sophisticated Daesh-recruiting operation?

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

First. Tesla is a croat. No need to steal from another nation
Second: Mileva has not published any scientific works. Only thing she did was getting married to Albert Einstein.

What did we produce? Lets not go back in history and stay in our time. We have contributed an armada of international popstars. A saint (Mother Theresa) and a nobel prize winner in medicine (Dr. Ferid Murad).

Your contribution to the world has been mediocre at best.
(Gjon Marku, 22 July 2017 01:02)

--

First: If Tesla were a Croat, why did he publicly declare himself a Serb?
(Ditto Ivo Andric, BTW). It is the Croats and Albanians who have been stealing from the Serbs, not the other way around.

Second: Mileva Einstein's contribution to Einstein's work have been amply researched and documented.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-forgotten-life-of-einsteins-first-wife/

Third: You have produced an armada of pop stars nobody has ever heard of.

Fourth. Mother Theresa was born in today's Macedonia, former Ottoman Empire, WHEN ALBANIA DIDN'T EVEN EXIST. In any event, it is funny to the point of being hilarious that 95% moslem population of Kosovo is all to eager to espouse a (gasp!) Catholic nun as one of their own. What's next? Buddha was an Albanian, too?

Finally, if the Serbian contributions are so "mediocre", why don't you stop using Tesla's, Pupin's, Milankovic's and Einstein's inventions and see how fast you go back to the cave.

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

So what? Switzerland is surrounded on all sides (except the tiny border with Austria) by EU and NATO countries, and yet it is neither, and has no intention whatsoever of becoming either.

(DEDA CVETKO, 21 July 2017 21:32)

There is one difference though. Switzerland has no history of trying to kill all their neighbors. They have never committed genocide or ethnic cleansing and they have not been bombed by the west for repeatedly committing warcrimes. Switzerland also didnt celebrate 9/11 or burned foreign embassies.

You see, Switzerland is a good benchmark but you`r not quite there.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ Gojn Marku - If that makes you sleep better at night thinking like that. War atrocities happened from ALL sides, genius!
The fall of Jugoslavia, K&M included, was a Western plan of Divide & Conquer! And they needed idio...I mean, pawns in order to pull it off. Looks like they found them in ignorant people like YOU! You're not worth the air you breath thinking that the west was not going to continue the rape of YU with K&M...

ivan

pre 6 godina

Everyone is after their own interests. I believe that Russia was supposed to have delivered the MiGs in April then in July and now by the end of the year. Belarus was supposed to have provided the S-300 sometime ago and nothing. It's like Serbia is courting two lovers both dying for her affection. Putin could have delivered on everything and more, but is waiting pending on diplomatic status for the humanitarian center. Serbia is the real culprit here. There is no big deal in granting the Russians equal status, as a matter of fact, they deserve it, and more. If Serbia would only rightfully do her part and accommodate the Russians the way they deserve to be, we would be in a better situation, but Serbia is just being a whore!!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 6 godina

Whom knows the Divine Future of Serbia ?
Whom has said that Serbia is small ?

The Serbians will Rise and,
in a wery short time you will all see it.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Vidovdan&&view=detail&mid=1762094608582D4796CB1762094608582D4796CB&FORM=VRDGAR


"My Bodyhair stands on end by the Spirit behind this (National)- Serbian Heart".

Serbia forever !.

Arn.Sweden.

Hank the Tank

pre 6 godina

Avni

Romania and Bulgaria are preventing these planed from flying over their territory but they can't prevent them from reaching Serbia eventually. Next time read the compleat article you fool.

rote

pre 6 godina

fas

it's 2017 today not 1999 ! to cover serbia russia don't have to be even present on the battlefield. the calibers and the new x-101 criuse missiles has upto 4 000 km range and can be fired from the russian soil and air. besides s-300 will be supplied by medium and short range tor and panzir systems that work much better together. good helicopters and t-90 ect. will make you safe. also remember that our tartus and hmeimim bases in syria are also our bases in the adriatics ... our war ships can make all nato vehicles, ams and tools in the region blind as you know ... so things run good enough.

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

Are they talking about the same Serbia that wants to join EU, and is surrounded by NATO and EU countries?
(Avni, 21 July 2017 20:43)

--

So what? Switzerland is surrounded on all sides (except the tiny border with Austria) by EU and NATO countries, and yet it is neither, and has no intention whatsoever of becoming either.

And, oh. Serbia is not "surrounded by NATO": neither Bosnia nor Macedonia (roughly 20% of the nation's borders) are NATO members.

Get my drift? Need a map?

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

Serbia has had zero years of peace and very few years of democracy and what did we give to the world? : (a) electrical power for every electrical appliance you are using (b) every long-distance call you are making (c) the world's finest and most sophisticated calendar and (e) the world's simplest and most elegant alphabet, among other things. Just ask Mileva Einstein, whom I assure you was NOT an Albanian.

Speaking of which...remind me, please...what did Albanians contribute to the European civilization? Blood feuds, honor killings, 95% of all cocaine trade and the world's most sophisticated Daesh-recruiting operation?
(DEDA CVETKO, 21 July 2017 23:55)

First. Tesla is a croat. No need to steal from another nation
Second: Mileva has not published any scientific works. Only thing she did was getting married to Albert Einstein.

What did we produce? Lets not go back in history and stay in our time. We have contributed an armada of international popstars. The best dope in the world. A saint (Mother Theresa) and a nobel prize winner in medicine (Dr. Ferid Murad).

Your contribution to the world has been mediocre at best.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Are they talking about the same Serbia that wants to join EU, and is surrounded by NATO and EU countries? If this example doesn't prove the point I don't know what will:

Romania, Bulgaria block Russian fighters from reaching Serbia https://www.romania-insider.com/romania-bulgaria-block-russian-fighters-reaching-serbia/

Peggy

pre 6 godina

First. Tesla is a croat. No need to steal from another nation

What did we produce? Lets not go back in history and stay in our
(Gjon Marku, 22 July 2017 01:02)
===========================
This alone shows how uneducated you are and invalidates your entire post. If you had any education you would know that a son of a Serbian priest and mother who is a daughter of a Serbian priest cannot possibly be a croat.
The only thing you can try to boast about is Mother Teresa but only in front of people who don't know better. Sure, she was declared a saint but Stjepanic was being considered too. When you look closely at her life and how she ran her "clinic" it becomes obvious she was quite the opposite.
So just because you and Croats haven't produced anything worthwhile isn't our fault. Stop adorning yourselves with other people's gold.

Brian Niven

pre 6 godina

Russia should not do this! serbia has ipap with NATO. Serbia has military exercises with NATO and NATO officials have access to all of Serbia. These weapons will go right to NATO control. Serbia is desperate to be in NATO.

fas

pre 6 godina

@Rote:

Did you skip the subject matter? Hypothetically, Russia could of course protect Serbia with anything, nukes even IF IT WANTED TO but this was about Serbia defending itself, at least initially, hence the need for a good deterrence with a proven sobering effect on US/NATO war hawks.

АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 6 godina

Switzerland has no history of trying to kill all their neighbors. They have never committed genocide or ethnic cleansing and they have not been bombed by the west for repeatedly committing warcrimes.
(Gjon Marku, 21 July 2017 22:30)

in the middle ages this place was called BERNARD = BERN ARDA = BERN HORDE ... wanna know more?

rote

pre 6 godina

DEDA CVETKO : Second: Mileva Einstein's contribution to Einstein's work have been amply researched and documented.

Not only documented but she also received USD 1Mln from him for keeping her mouths shut. Besides she gave him not all the formulas so he could explain very little about his "own" theory ...


Moderate Serb : If Russia really wants to win over Serbia, they would pi$$ on our wild fires as they do to the rest of Serbia.

This summer the wildfires on the Balkans were peanuts compared to those in Siberia where 20 000 - 40 000 hectares were parallel burning in several regions ...


John : Russia always wins

... in the end

rote

pre 6 godina

I used to think that Serbophobia and chronical idiotism were different diseases ... Tesls was a big friend of the USSR where he arrived as a Serb. It provided him top cooperation on Beria level. Especially when he was making his experiments with so called Tungus Meteorite. As a Croat he could do nothing here.

rote

pre 6 godina

Oh dear, If people say that Albanians didn't contribute anything to the civilized world, then stop using viagra for which we got Nobel Prize and see how fast you go down south, grandpa.
(icj, 23 July 2017 17:39)

albanians tributed very much but those weren't the shqiptars who just privatized the trade mark. i have no phobias and i believe that your people must have a state of it's own but practical implementation of the idea will be a long and a windy road ...

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

So sad. Too many serbs still belive in myths and hold onto fairytails.

To paraphrase Vucic: Time to face reality and move away from myths.

Sad.

icj

pre 6 godina

Finally, if the Serbian contributions are so "mediocre", why don't you stop using Tesla's, Pupin's, Milankovic's and Einstein's inventions and see how fast you go back to the cave.
(DEDA CVETKO, 23 July 2017 00:05)

Oh dear, If people say that Albanians didn't contribute anything to the civilized world, then stop using viagra for which we got Nobel Prize and see how fast you go down south, grandpa.

icj1

pre 6 godina

First. Tesla is a croat.
(Gjon Marku, 22 July 2017 01:02)

This alone shows how uneducated you are and invalidates your entire post. If you had any education you would know that a son of a Serbian priest and mother who is a daughter of a Serbian priest cannot possibly be a croat.
(Peggy, 24 July 2017 01:42)

Well, it was Tesla himself who was proud of his Croat homeland... That's what Gjon Marku was referring to. Are you implying that Tesla was uneducated for referring to his Croat homeland?!

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

So what? Switzerland is surrounded on all sides (except the tiny border with Austria) by EU and NATO countries, and yet it is neither, and has no intention whatsoever of becoming either.

(DEDA CVETKO, 21 July 2017 21:32)

There is one difference though. Switzerland has no history of trying to kill all their neighbors. They have never committed genocide or ethnic cleansing and they have not been bombed by the west for repeatedly committing warcrimes. Switzerland also didnt celebrate 9/11 or burned foreign embassies.

You see, Switzerland is a good benchmark but you`r not quite there.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Things aren't going too well for the West, the whole alliance is falling apart and Russia/China are there to step in. Infighting between Germany and Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, UK and EU, white house and deep state - to mention a few.

The West lost Serbia in the early 90s while Serbia is playing a balancing act for the moment, with lots of benefits coming our way. Also, now that John McCain is gone, there will be less pressure.

Looks like a good position to be in at the moment.

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

Serbia has had zero years of peace and very few years of democracy and what did we give to the world? : (a) electrical power for every electrical appliance you are using (b) every long-distance call you are making (c) the world's finest and most sophisticated calendar and (e) the world's simplest and most elegant alphabet, among other things. Just ask Mileva Einstein, whom I assure you was NOT an Albanian.

Speaking of which...remind me, please...what did Albanians contribute to the European civilization? Blood feuds, honor killings, 95% of all cocaine trade and the world's most sophisticated Daesh-recruiting operation?
(DEDA CVETKO, 21 July 2017 23:55)

First. Tesla is a croat. No need to steal from another nation
Second: Mileva has not published any scientific works. Only thing she did was getting married to Albert Einstein.

What did we produce? Lets not go back in history and stay in our time. We have contributed an armada of international popstars. The best dope in the world. A saint (Mother Theresa) and a nobel prize winner in medicine (Dr. Ferid Murad).

Your contribution to the world has been mediocre at best.

rote

pre 6 godina

fas

it's 2017 today not 1999 ! to cover serbia russia don't have to be even present on the battlefield. the calibers and the new x-101 criuse missiles has upto 4 000 km range and can be fired from the russian soil and air. besides s-300 will be supplied by medium and short range tor and panzir systems that work much better together. good helicopters and t-90 ect. will make you safe. also remember that our tartus and hmeimim bases in syria are also our bases in the adriatics ... our war ships can make all nato vehicles, ams and tools in the region blind as you know ... so things run good enough.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Are they talking about the same Serbia that wants to join EU, and is surrounded by NATO and EU countries? If this example doesn't prove the point I don't know what will:

Romania, Bulgaria block Russian fighters from reaching Serbia https://www.romania-insider.com/romania-bulgaria-block-russian-fighters-reaching-serbia/

Brian Niven

pre 6 godina

Russia should not do this! serbia has ipap with NATO. Serbia has military exercises with NATO and NATO officials have access to all of Serbia. These weapons will go right to NATO control. Serbia is desperate to be in NATO.

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

Are they talking about the same Serbia that wants to join EU, and is surrounded by NATO and EU countries?
(Avni, 21 July 2017 20:43)

--

So what? Switzerland is surrounded on all sides (except the tiny border with Austria) by EU and NATO countries, and yet it is neither, and has no intention whatsoever of becoming either.

And, oh. Serbia is not "surrounded by NATO": neither Bosnia nor Macedonia (roughly 20% of the nation's borders) are NATO members.

Get my drift? Need a map?

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

You see, Switzerland is a good benchmark but you`r not quite there.
(Gjon Marku, 21 July 2017 22:30)

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"Switzerland had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock!."

- Orson Welles.

Serbia has had zero years of peace and very few years of democracy and what did we give to the world? : (a) electrical power for every electrical appliance you are using (b) every long-distance call you are making (c) the world's finest and most sophisticated calendar and (e) the world's simplest and most elegant alphabet, among other things. Just ask Mileva Einstein, whom I assure you was NOT an Albanian.

Speaking of which...remind me, please...what did Albanians contribute to the European civilization? Blood feuds, honor killings, 95% of all cocaine trade and the world's most sophisticated Daesh-recruiting operation?

Arn.Sweden.

pre 6 godina

Whom knows the Divine Future of Serbia ?
Whom has said that Serbia is small ?

The Serbians will Rise and,
in a wery short time you will all see it.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Vidovdan&&view=detail&mid=1762094608582D4796CB1762094608582D4796CB&FORM=VRDGAR


"My Bodyhair stands on end by the Spirit behind this (National)- Serbian Heart".

Serbia forever !.

Arn.Sweden.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ Gojn Marku - If that makes you sleep better at night thinking like that. War atrocities happened from ALL sides, genius!
The fall of Jugoslavia, K&M included, was a Western plan of Divide & Conquer! And they needed idio...I mean, pawns in order to pull it off. Looks like they found them in ignorant people like YOU! You're not worth the air you breath thinking that the west was not going to continue the rape of YU with K&M...

icj

pre 6 godina

Finally, if the Serbian contributions are so "mediocre", why don't you stop using Tesla's, Pupin's, Milankovic's and Einstein's inventions and see how fast you go back to the cave.
(DEDA CVETKO, 23 July 2017 00:05)

Oh dear, If people say that Albanians didn't contribute anything to the civilized world, then stop using viagra for which we got Nobel Prize and see how fast you go down south, grandpa.

fas

pre 6 godina

S-300's within Serbia, surrounded by hostile NATO slave states as it is, will have a very sobering effect on the cocky alliance cowards.

Serbia could if threatened, at will, create a NFZ like the Russians and the Syrians did in Syria. No US plane has been stupid enough to breach that one yet. They are in fact desperately trying to have it removed so they can start bombing Syrian anti-terrorist forces and halt their advances against US's cutthroat mercenaries as well as Syrian civilian infrastructure.No such luck yet. A Serbian NFZ if erected would partly include neighbouring states also.

АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 6 godina

Switzerland has no history of trying to kill all their neighbors. They have never committed genocide or ethnic cleansing and they have not been bombed by the west for repeatedly committing warcrimes.
(Gjon Marku, 21 July 2017 22:30)

in the middle ages this place was called BERNARD = BERN ARDA = BERN HORDE ... wanna know more?

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

US and Russia may or may not be "vying for influence over Serbia", but only ONE of those two parties had bombed Serbia for 79 days in a row, killed 5000+ people,annexed 1/5 of its territory by force, destroyed $100,000,000,000.00 worth of industrial and economic infrastructure and sprinkled 18 tons of uranium on its land, making it a cancerous hellhole in the heart of Europe.

Can you guess which? Hint: it's not Russia.

Hank the Tank

pre 6 godina

Avni

Romania and Bulgaria are preventing these planed from flying over their territory but they can't prevent them from reaching Serbia eventually. Next time read the compleat article you fool.

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

So sad. Too many serbs still belive in myths and hold onto fairytails.

To paraphrase Vucic: Time to face reality and move away from myths.

Sad.

ivan

pre 6 godina

Everyone is after their own interests. I believe that Russia was supposed to have delivered the MiGs in April then in July and now by the end of the year. Belarus was supposed to have provided the S-300 sometime ago and nothing. It's like Serbia is courting two lovers both dying for her affection. Putin could have delivered on everything and more, but is waiting pending on diplomatic status for the humanitarian center. Serbia is the real culprit here. There is no big deal in granting the Russians equal status, as a matter of fact, they deserve it, and more. If Serbia would only rightfully do her part and accommodate the Russians the way they deserve to be, we would be in a better situation, but Serbia is just being a whore!!

icj1

pre 6 godina

First. Tesla is a croat.
(Gjon Marku, 22 July 2017 01:02)

This alone shows how uneducated you are and invalidates your entire post. If you had any education you would know that a son of a Serbian priest and mother who is a daughter of a Serbian priest cannot possibly be a croat.
(Peggy, 24 July 2017 01:42)

Well, it was Tesla himself who was proud of his Croat homeland... That's what Gjon Marku was referring to. Are you implying that Tesla was uneducated for referring to his Croat homeland?!

rote

pre 6 godina

DEDA CVETKO : Second: Mileva Einstein's contribution to Einstein's work have been amply researched and documented.

Not only documented but she also received USD 1Mln from him for keeping her mouths shut. Besides she gave him not all the formulas so he could explain very little about his "own" theory ...


Moderate Serb : If Russia really wants to win over Serbia, they would pi$$ on our wild fires as they do to the rest of Serbia.

This summer the wildfires on the Balkans were peanuts compared to those in Siberia where 20 000 - 40 000 hectares were parallel burning in several regions ...


John : Russia always wins

... in the end

fas

pre 6 godina

@Rote:

Did you skip the subject matter? Hypothetically, Russia could of course protect Serbia with anything, nukes even IF IT WANTED TO but this was about Serbia defending itself, at least initially, hence the need for a good deterrence with a proven sobering effect on US/NATO war hawks.

DEDA CVETKO

pre 6 godina

First. Tesla is a croat. No need to steal from another nation
Second: Mileva has not published any scientific works. Only thing she did was getting married to Albert Einstein.

What did we produce? Lets not go back in history and stay in our time. We have contributed an armada of international popstars. A saint (Mother Theresa) and a nobel prize winner in medicine (Dr. Ferid Murad).

Your contribution to the world has been mediocre at best.
(Gjon Marku, 22 July 2017 01:02)

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First: If Tesla were a Croat, why did he publicly declare himself a Serb?
(Ditto Ivo Andric, BTW). It is the Croats and Albanians who have been stealing from the Serbs, not the other way around.

Second: Mileva Einstein's contribution to Einstein's work have been amply researched and documented.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-forgotten-life-of-einsteins-first-wife/

Third: You have produced an armada of pop stars nobody has ever heard of.

Fourth. Mother Theresa was born in today's Macedonia, former Ottoman Empire, WHEN ALBANIA DIDN'T EVEN EXIST. In any event, it is funny to the point of being hilarious that 95% moslem population of Kosovo is all to eager to espouse a (gasp!) Catholic nun as one of their own. What's next? Buddha was an Albanian, too?

Finally, if the Serbian contributions are so "mediocre", why don't you stop using Tesla's, Pupin's, Milankovic's and Einstein's inventions and see how fast you go back to the cave.

rote

pre 6 godina

Oh dear, If people say that Albanians didn't contribute anything to the civilized world, then stop using viagra for which we got Nobel Prize and see how fast you go down south, grandpa.
(icj, 23 July 2017 17:39)

albanians tributed very much but those weren't the shqiptars who just privatized the trade mark. i have no phobias and i believe that your people must have a state of it's own but practical implementation of the idea will be a long and a windy road ...

Peggy

pre 6 godina

First. Tesla is a croat. No need to steal from another nation

What did we produce? Lets not go back in history and stay in our
(Gjon Marku, 22 July 2017 01:02)
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This alone shows how uneducated you are and invalidates your entire post. If you had any education you would know that a son of a Serbian priest and mother who is a daughter of a Serbian priest cannot possibly be a croat.
The only thing you can try to boast about is Mother Teresa but only in front of people who don't know better. Sure, she was declared a saint but Stjepanic was being considered too. When you look closely at her life and how she ran her "clinic" it becomes obvious she was quite the opposite.
So just because you and Croats haven't produced anything worthwhile isn't our fault. Stop adorning yourselves with other people's gold.

rote

pre 6 godina

I used to think that Serbophobia and chronical idiotism were different diseases ... Tesls was a big friend of the USSR where he arrived as a Serb. It provided him top cooperation on Beria level. Especially when he was making his experiments with so called Tungus Meteorite. As a Croat he could do nothing here.