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Thursday, 20.07.2017.

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Moscow "used Kosovo to legitimize Crimea move"

Moscow, "striving to justify its intervention in the territory of Ukraine" has been using political narratives about "the so-called precedent of Kosovo."

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

Then I guess you wont be bothered when Kosovo overwhelmingly votes to join Albania.
(Gjon Marku, 20 July 2017 20:46)
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Albania might be.

АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 6 godina

Albanian American : Where were you during the srebrenica, bosnia, massacre ?

Bacha-i harkus ! What massacres are you talking about when everybody already knows how the war in Bosnia started after the two explosions at the bazar and after the Serbian villages were massacred ...

by the way "Bacha-i " means "SON OF" ...
use Osmani language to translate "HARKUS" ...
it's composed of words HAR and KUS ...

THAT'S WHO YOU REALLY ARE AND
THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE REALLY FROM

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic, 20 July 2017 17:46)

Where were you during the srebrenica, bosnia, massacre ? Killing underage teenagers ?
Where were you during the Kosova massacres? Killing innocent civilians ? Guess what , Kosova never be servias again.

rote

pre 6 godina

Kent Prince

in 1944 the new commander of the 17-th army of Wehrmacht in his first speech in front of the soldiers said that there was no other word the makes the Russians excited as much as Sevastopol. And he was right not only because of the military history of the city but because the Savior was born there and European monarchs had gone as peligrims only to one place that isn't even mentioned in the below list.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0

but even in 19 century when current Jerusalem was built in Al Quds village and was separated from the Ottomans the monarchs of Europe including the Tsars kept on visiting the real place where Jesus was born. None of them ever stepped in the capitol of what is called Israel today ...

http://krim.biz.ua/fiolent-37-foto.html

the world war of 1856 called in Russia as Crimean and in Europe as Eastern has indeed started as THE WAR FOR THE BETHLEHEM STAR AND THE CRADDLE OF THE LORD ... the Brits have even brought a 2km long railroad here ... it was a very strange war when Russian and British uniforms, flags and hymns were the same ...

there's no other place in Russia where so many vital monuments and artefacts are concentrated as it is in Crimea. one of them is another cave church in Chufut Kale where Mother Maria was burried ...

http://aziza01.livejournal.com/75659.html

Zoran

pre 6 godina

This plan to detach Kosovo from Serbia is 20+ years old. They tried militarily and failed, they tried through the UN and failed. They then went on their own and split the EU, NATO and the world. Still after 20 years they haven't succeeded so they are finally trying negotiations. Kosovo is a mess, an ISIS breading ground, mafia controlled with Albanians fleeing en-mass.

On the other hand, Crimea voted to join Russia and in a matter of months, everything done quite efficiently and without conflict. Well done to Russia.

Looks like Russia is not interested in endless conflict, like the US.

Billy Idol

pre 6 godina

The Truth

So if Russians in Crimea voted for seperation it should be allowed? Same for serbs in Republika Srpska? I didn't know it was that easy to gain independence from a country. Albanians in Kosovo can't just decide they want to succeed just because they are a majority, due to very high birthrates. Kosovo is still legaly part of Serbia.

rote

pre 6 godina

nobody heard about Crimea problems (made up problems) until they saw Russians soldiers on the streets.
(Avni, 20 July 2017 20:49)

CRIMEA WAS IN THE FOCUS ALL THOSE YEARS OF OCCUPATION.
NOBODY HEARD ABOUT IT ONLY ON THE ANTARCTIDE ...

rote

pre 6 godina

In Crimea it was the same thing although one could argue that voting was conducted under strict monitoring of the Russian army and secret services and no doubt the outcome was to some degree manipulated.
(George, 20 July 2017 20:49)

what are you talking about after 86,6 % voted in favor of russia ! you can manipulate the remaining 3% only ... CRIMEA MEANS TOO MUCH FOR RUSSIA

Kent Prince

pre 6 godina

The history of Crimea is that it never belong to Ukraine in the first place. It has always been a Russian territory illegally given to Ukraine by a drunken Russian leader. Further, the population of Crimea has always been majority Russian in ethnicity from time long ago. So the territory was essentially reunited with Russia by a majority vote.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

I do not respect referendums that do not include that WHOLE country!
If WHOLE Srbija voted to let K&M go their separate way, I would agree!
If WHOLE Ukraine voted to let Crimea go, I would agree!
Otherwise , ths is called Pandora's box...and it won't stop until the "powers to be" feel this same injustice and revert back to international norm!

Dragan

pre 6 godina

@George

Do you really think if all of Serbia, which includes Kosovo, voted in a referendum, they would vote to give Kosovo to Albanians?? You are delusional. Nice try.

George

pre 6 godina

@Dragan

Do you really think that the 90% Albanian dominated Kosovo would vote NO to a referendum if there was one? You must be really naive. There was no need for a referendum and not even Serbia asked for one since everybody knew the outcome.

In Crimea it was the same thing although one could argue that voting was conducted under strict monitoring of the Russian army and secret services and no doubt the outcome was to some degree manipulated.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Russians attacking other Slavs only helps us. I got no problem with that. Funny though because nobody heard about Crimea problems (made up problems) until they saw Russians soldiers on the streets.

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

You fail to mention Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. Something the citizens of Serbia did not have an opportunity to do. You also conveniently fail to state that Serbian territory was forcibly taken through illegal bombing of Serbia. Lastly, you fail to admit that Kosovo is not currently "Kosovar" but rather owned and run by the organizations that bombed Serbia. Clearly, you are the latter of your moniker.
(Dragan, 20 July 2017 17:58)

Then I guess you wont be bothered when Kosovo overwhelmingly votes to join Albania.

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

correct, it makes no sense, but that does not matter to the army of idiots who will agree with anything Putin does
(Dwight, 20 July 2017 17:41)

There you have it, dumber just confirmed what dumb wrote.

LOL

pre 6 godina

Dragan are you kidding should the butcher of albanians be asked if the albanians are allowed to get independence? the crimea area wherent butchered or supressed but because the ukraines chose to get more democracy and fredom and not be a russian puppet state the russia just decided to steal crimea and are trying in eastern ukraine. And as you say serbia didnt get a chance to wote about kosova did ukraine wote about it? and yes they could do a voting in kosovo right now if it makes serbs accept it, but even serbia doesnt want that really because they know the results of this voting. And Dragolub b**** please you been threating of attacking Kosovo all day long nothing happens, you couldn't even attack it with a train? But Dragolub been following you awile now, but I have begun having a serious worry for your mental well being(and im not even a doctor) and while you at it take rote with you.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

LOL, the water just gets muddier and muddier;) EXACTLY where the "powers to be" want everyone...and "everyone" is just blaming each other! Cannon fodder...is all "everyone" is...lol

the truth

pre 6 godina

You fail to mention Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. Something the citizens of Serbia did not have an opportunity to do. You also conveniently fail to state that Serbian territory was forcibly taken through illegal bombing of Serbia. Lastly, you fail to admit that Kosovo is not currently "Kosovar" but rather owned and run by the organizations that bombed Serbia. Clearly, you are the latter of your moniker.
(Dragan, 20 July 2017 17:58)

You failed to mention that Kosova voted over 95% during Slobos era, and you guys did not honor that vote!? How soon you forgot, bimbo? We can hold referendum at any given time in Kosova and you will see the results.

Hank the Tank

pre 6 godina

The west thought they could just bomb a country and steal a part of its territory and everybody would forget about it. Well no one has forgotten and Ukraine is just the begining. The Kosovo experiment will cost the west dearly.

Joe A

pre 6 godina

Well, it is not only Russia. Catalunya and others also use the same argument. That international court ruling that said that the proclamation of independence was not illegal (which does not say that the actual independence was legal) opened up Pandora's box. It means that anybody and their kitchen sink can proclaim independence.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

(Dumb And Dumber, 20 July 2017 16:46)

correct, it makes no sense, but that does not matter to the army of idiots who will agree with anything Putin does

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Hey Dumb and Dummer !!!

USA illegally bombed Srbija with U-235 poison for 78 days to illegaly annex Serbian Kosovo with Islamic Albania ! Albanian Islamic terrorist can not succeed from what is not their belongings ! The war is not over yet, don't be jumping to conclusions regarding Srbija giving Kosovo to Albanian Islamic terroist ! I know that the USA has a lot more U-235's for us Serbian people but man proposes and only God disposes !!!

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

More NATO sponsored propaganda. What a surprise, seeding academic publications like the Southeast European and Black Sea Journal with friendly 'research' which is little more than toilet paper.

Dragan

pre 6 godina

@ Dumber

You fail to mention Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. Something the citizens of Serbia did not have an opportunity to do. You also conveniently fail to state that Serbian territory was forcibly taken through illegal bombing of Serbia. Lastly, you fail to admit that Kosovo is not currently "Kosovar" but rather owned and run by the organizations that bombed Serbia. Clearly, you are the latter of your moniker.

Nikola Tesla- Serbian Inventor

pre 6 godina

(Dumb And Dumber, 20 July 2017 16:46) Dude, your name say's it all you are a Dumbass!! Serbia is a sovereign state, Kosovo was stolen from Serbia with the help of the USA, one need no history lesson to understand,obviously you failed in that class. The US is using Kosovo land for their military base called camp Bondsteel nothing to do with helping the Albos what so ever, all about the USA flexing their military muscle in Europe!

This makes no sense as Kosovo seceded from the state of Serbia and is seeking full independence and self determination. However Crimea was illegally annexed by another sovereign State. Slavs are definitely not the brightest race on earth.
(Dumb And Dumber, 20 July 2017 16:46)

Dumb And Dumber

pre 6 godina

This makes no sense as Kosovo seceded from the state of Serbia and is seeking full independence and self determination. However Crimea was illegally annexed by another sovereign State. Slavs are definitely not the brightest race on earth.

Hank the Tank

pre 6 godina

The west thought they could just bomb a country and steal a part of its territory and everybody would forget about it. Well no one has forgotten and Ukraine is just the begining. The Kosovo experiment will cost the west dearly.

Dragan

pre 6 godina

@George

Do you really think if all of Serbia, which includes Kosovo, voted in a referendum, they would vote to give Kosovo to Albanians?? You are delusional. Nice try.

Dragan

pre 6 godina

@ Dumber

You fail to mention Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. Something the citizens of Serbia did not have an opportunity to do. You also conveniently fail to state that Serbian territory was forcibly taken through illegal bombing of Serbia. Lastly, you fail to admit that Kosovo is not currently "Kosovar" but rather owned and run by the organizations that bombed Serbia. Clearly, you are the latter of your moniker.

Dumb And Dumber

pre 6 godina

This makes no sense as Kosovo seceded from the state of Serbia and is seeking full independence and self determination. However Crimea was illegally annexed by another sovereign State. Slavs are definitely not the brightest race on earth.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Hey Dumb and Dummer !!!

USA illegally bombed Srbija with U-235 poison for 78 days to illegaly annex Serbian Kosovo with Islamic Albania ! Albanian Islamic terrorist can not succeed from what is not their belongings ! The war is not over yet, don't be jumping to conclusions regarding Srbija giving Kosovo to Albanian Islamic terroist ! I know that the USA has a lot more U-235's for us Serbian people but man proposes and only God disposes !!!

Joe A

pre 6 godina

Well, it is not only Russia. Catalunya and others also use the same argument. That international court ruling that said that the proclamation of independence was not illegal (which does not say that the actual independence was legal) opened up Pandora's box. It means that anybody and their kitchen sink can proclaim independence.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

I do not respect referendums that do not include that WHOLE country!
If WHOLE Srbija voted to let K&M go their separate way, I would agree!
If WHOLE Ukraine voted to let Crimea go, I would agree!
Otherwise , ths is called Pandora's box...and it won't stop until the "powers to be" feel this same injustice and revert back to international norm!

Zoran

pre 6 godina

This plan to detach Kosovo from Serbia is 20+ years old. They tried militarily and failed, they tried through the UN and failed. They then went on their own and split the EU, NATO and the world. Still after 20 years they haven't succeeded so they are finally trying negotiations. Kosovo is a mess, an ISIS breading ground, mafia controlled with Albanians fleeing en-mass.

On the other hand, Crimea voted to join Russia and in a matter of months, everything done quite efficiently and without conflict. Well done to Russia.

Looks like Russia is not interested in endless conflict, like the US.

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

More NATO sponsored propaganda. What a surprise, seeding academic publications like the Southeast European and Black Sea Journal with friendly 'research' which is little more than toilet paper.

Billy Idol

pre 6 godina

The Truth

So if Russians in Crimea voted for seperation it should be allowed? Same for serbs in Republika Srpska? I didn't know it was that easy to gain independence from a country. Albanians in Kosovo can't just decide they want to succeed just because they are a majority, due to very high birthrates. Kosovo is still legaly part of Serbia.

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

correct, it makes no sense, but that does not matter to the army of idiots who will agree with anything Putin does
(Dwight, 20 July 2017 17:41)

There you have it, dumber just confirmed what dumb wrote.

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

You fail to mention Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. Something the citizens of Serbia did not have an opportunity to do. You also conveniently fail to state that Serbian territory was forcibly taken through illegal bombing of Serbia. Lastly, you fail to admit that Kosovo is not currently "Kosovar" but rather owned and run by the organizations that bombed Serbia. Clearly, you are the latter of your moniker.
(Dragan, 20 July 2017 17:58)

Then I guess you wont be bothered when Kosovo overwhelmingly votes to join Albania.

Nikola Tesla- Serbian Inventor

pre 6 godina

(Dumb And Dumber, 20 July 2017 16:46) Dude, your name say's it all you are a Dumbass!! Serbia is a sovereign state, Kosovo was stolen from Serbia with the help of the USA, one need no history lesson to understand,obviously you failed in that class. The US is using Kosovo land for their military base called camp Bondsteel nothing to do with helping the Albos what so ever, all about the USA flexing their military muscle in Europe!

This makes no sense as Kosovo seceded from the state of Serbia and is seeking full independence and self determination. However Crimea was illegally annexed by another sovereign State. Slavs are definitely not the brightest race on earth.
(Dumb And Dumber, 20 July 2017 16:46)

LOL

pre 6 godina

Dragan are you kidding should the butcher of albanians be asked if the albanians are allowed to get independence? the crimea area wherent butchered or supressed but because the ukraines chose to get more democracy and fredom and not be a russian puppet state the russia just decided to steal crimea and are trying in eastern ukraine. And as you say serbia didnt get a chance to wote about kosova did ukraine wote about it? and yes they could do a voting in kosovo right now if it makes serbs accept it, but even serbia doesnt want that really because they know the results of this voting. And Dragolub b**** please you been threating of attacking Kosovo all day long nothing happens, you couldn't even attack it with a train? But Dragolub been following you awile now, but I have begun having a serious worry for your mental well being(and im not even a doctor) and while you at it take rote with you.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Russians attacking other Slavs only helps us. I got no problem with that. Funny though because nobody heard about Crimea problems (made up problems) until they saw Russians soldiers on the streets.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic, 20 July 2017 17:46)

Where were you during the srebrenica, bosnia, massacre ? Killing underage teenagers ?
Where were you during the Kosova massacres? Killing innocent civilians ? Guess what , Kosova never be servias again.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

(Dumb And Dumber, 20 July 2017 16:46)

correct, it makes no sense, but that does not matter to the army of idiots who will agree with anything Putin does

Kent Prince

pre 6 godina

The history of Crimea is that it never belong to Ukraine in the first place. It has always been a Russian territory illegally given to Ukraine by a drunken Russian leader. Further, the population of Crimea has always been majority Russian in ethnicity from time long ago. So the territory was essentially reunited with Russia by a majority vote.

George

pre 6 godina

@Dragan

Do you really think that the 90% Albanian dominated Kosovo would vote NO to a referendum if there was one? You must be really naive. There was no need for a referendum and not even Serbia asked for one since everybody knew the outcome.

In Crimea it was the same thing although one could argue that voting was conducted under strict monitoring of the Russian army and secret services and no doubt the outcome was to some degree manipulated.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

LOL, the water just gets muddier and muddier;) EXACTLY where the "powers to be" want everyone...and "everyone" is just blaming each other! Cannon fodder...is all "everyone" is...lol

the truth

pre 6 godina

You fail to mention Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. Something the citizens of Serbia did not have an opportunity to do. You also conveniently fail to state that Serbian territory was forcibly taken through illegal bombing of Serbia. Lastly, you fail to admit that Kosovo is not currently "Kosovar" but rather owned and run by the organizations that bombed Serbia. Clearly, you are the latter of your moniker.
(Dragan, 20 July 2017 17:58)

You failed to mention that Kosova voted over 95% during Slobos era, and you guys did not honor that vote!? How soon you forgot, bimbo? We can hold referendum at any given time in Kosova and you will see the results.

rote

pre 6 godina

nobody heard about Crimea problems (made up problems) until they saw Russians soldiers on the streets.
(Avni, 20 July 2017 20:49)

CRIMEA WAS IN THE FOCUS ALL THOSE YEARS OF OCCUPATION.
NOBODY HEARD ABOUT IT ONLY ON THE ANTARCTIDE ...

rote

pre 6 godina

Kent Prince

in 1944 the new commander of the 17-th army of Wehrmacht in his first speech in front of the soldiers said that there was no other word the makes the Russians excited as much as Sevastopol. And he was right not only because of the military history of the city but because the Savior was born there and European monarchs had gone as peligrims only to one place that isn't even mentioned in the below list.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0

but even in 19 century when current Jerusalem was built in Al Quds village and was separated from the Ottomans the monarchs of Europe including the Tsars kept on visiting the real place where Jesus was born. None of them ever stepped in the capitol of what is called Israel today ...

http://krim.biz.ua/fiolent-37-foto.html

the world war of 1856 called in Russia as Crimean and in Europe as Eastern has indeed started as THE WAR FOR THE BETHLEHEM STAR AND THE CRADDLE OF THE LORD ... the Brits have even brought a 2km long railroad here ... it was a very strange war when Russian and British uniforms, flags and hymns were the same ...

there's no other place in Russia where so many vital monuments and artefacts are concentrated as it is in Crimea. one of them is another cave church in Chufut Kale where Mother Maria was burried ...

http://aziza01.livejournal.com/75659.html

АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 6 godina

Albanian American : Where were you during the srebrenica, bosnia, massacre ?

Bacha-i harkus ! What massacres are you talking about when everybody already knows how the war in Bosnia started after the two explosions at the bazar and after the Serbian villages were massacred ...

by the way "Bacha-i " means "SON OF" ...
use Osmani language to translate "HARKUS" ...
it's composed of words HAR and KUS ...

THAT'S WHO YOU REALLY ARE AND
THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE REALLY FROM

rote

pre 6 godina

In Crimea it was the same thing although one could argue that voting was conducted under strict monitoring of the Russian army and secret services and no doubt the outcome was to some degree manipulated.
(George, 20 July 2017 20:49)

what are you talking about after 86,6 % voted in favor of russia ! you can manipulate the remaining 3% only ... CRIMEA MEANS TOO MUCH FOR RUSSIA

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Then I guess you wont be bothered when Kosovo overwhelmingly votes to join Albania.
(Gjon Marku, 20 July 2017 20:46)
==========================
Albania might be.

Dumb And Dumber

pre 6 godina

This makes no sense as Kosovo seceded from the state of Serbia and is seeking full independence and self determination. However Crimea was illegally annexed by another sovereign State. Slavs are definitely not the brightest race on earth.

the truth

pre 6 godina

You fail to mention Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. Something the citizens of Serbia did not have an opportunity to do. You also conveniently fail to state that Serbian territory was forcibly taken through illegal bombing of Serbia. Lastly, you fail to admit that Kosovo is not currently "Kosovar" but rather owned and run by the organizations that bombed Serbia. Clearly, you are the latter of your moniker.
(Dragan, 20 July 2017 17:58)

You failed to mention that Kosova voted over 95% during Slobos era, and you guys did not honor that vote!? How soon you forgot, bimbo? We can hold referendum at any given time in Kosova and you will see the results.

Gjon Marku

pre 6 godina

You fail to mention Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. Something the citizens of Serbia did not have an opportunity to do. You also conveniently fail to state that Serbian territory was forcibly taken through illegal bombing of Serbia. Lastly, you fail to admit that Kosovo is not currently "Kosovar" but rather owned and run by the organizations that bombed Serbia. Clearly, you are the latter of your moniker.
(Dragan, 20 July 2017 17:58)

Then I guess you wont be bothered when Kosovo overwhelmingly votes to join Albania.

LOL

pre 6 godina

Dragan are you kidding should the butcher of albanians be asked if the albanians are allowed to get independence? the crimea area wherent butchered or supressed but because the ukraines chose to get more democracy and fredom and not be a russian puppet state the russia just decided to steal crimea and are trying in eastern ukraine. And as you say serbia didnt get a chance to wote about kosova did ukraine wote about it? and yes they could do a voting in kosovo right now if it makes serbs accept it, but even serbia doesnt want that really because they know the results of this voting. And Dragolub b**** please you been threating of attacking Kosovo all day long nothing happens, you couldn't even attack it with a train? But Dragolub been following you awile now, but I have begun having a serious worry for your mental well being(and im not even a doctor) and while you at it take rote with you.

Nikola Tesla- Serbian Inventor

pre 6 godina

(Dumb And Dumber, 20 July 2017 16:46) Dude, your name say's it all you are a Dumbass!! Serbia is a sovereign state, Kosovo was stolen from Serbia with the help of the USA, one need no history lesson to understand,obviously you failed in that class. The US is using Kosovo land for their military base called camp Bondsteel nothing to do with helping the Albos what so ever, all about the USA flexing their military muscle in Europe!

This makes no sense as Kosovo seceded from the state of Serbia and is seeking full independence and self determination. However Crimea was illegally annexed by another sovereign State. Slavs are definitely not the brightest race on earth.
(Dumb And Dumber, 20 July 2017 16:46)

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

Hey Dumb and Dummer !!!

USA illegally bombed Srbija with U-235 poison for 78 days to illegaly annex Serbian Kosovo with Islamic Albania ! Albanian Islamic terrorist can not succeed from what is not their belongings ! The war is not over yet, don't be jumping to conclusions regarding Srbija giving Kosovo to Albanian Islamic terroist ! I know that the USA has a lot more U-235's for us Serbian people but man proposes and only God disposes !!!

George

pre 6 godina

@Dragan

Do you really think that the 90% Albanian dominated Kosovo would vote NO to a referendum if there was one? You must be really naive. There was no need for a referendum and not even Serbia asked for one since everybody knew the outcome.

In Crimea it was the same thing although one could argue that voting was conducted under strict monitoring of the Russian army and secret services and no doubt the outcome was to some degree manipulated.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

(Dumb And Dumber, 20 July 2017 16:46)

correct, it makes no sense, but that does not matter to the army of idiots who will agree with anything Putin does

Avni

pre 6 godina

Russians attacking other Slavs only helps us. I got no problem with that. Funny though because nobody heard about Crimea problems (made up problems) until they saw Russians soldiers on the streets.

rote

pre 6 godina

Kent Prince

in 1944 the new commander of the 17-th army of Wehrmacht in his first speech in front of the soldiers said that there was no other word the makes the Russians excited as much as Sevastopol. And he was right not only because of the military history of the city but because the Savior was born there and European monarchs had gone as peligrims only to one place that isn't even mentioned in the below list.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0

but even in 19 century when current Jerusalem was built in Al Quds village and was separated from the Ottomans the monarchs of Europe including the Tsars kept on visiting the real place where Jesus was born. None of them ever stepped in the capitol of what is called Israel today ...

http://krim.biz.ua/fiolent-37-foto.html

the world war of 1856 called in Russia as Crimean and in Europe as Eastern has indeed started as THE WAR FOR THE BETHLEHEM STAR AND THE CRADDLE OF THE LORD ... the Brits have even brought a 2km long railroad here ... it was a very strange war when Russian and British uniforms, flags and hymns were the same ...

there's no other place in Russia where so many vital monuments and artefacts are concentrated as it is in Crimea. one of them is another cave church in Chufut Kale where Mother Maria was burried ...

http://aziza01.livejournal.com/75659.html

Dragan

pre 6 godina

@George

Do you really think if all of Serbia, which includes Kosovo, voted in a referendum, they would vote to give Kosovo to Albanians?? You are delusional. Nice try.

Kent Prince

pre 6 godina

The history of Crimea is that it never belong to Ukraine in the first place. It has always been a Russian territory illegally given to Ukraine by a drunken Russian leader. Further, the population of Crimea has always been majority Russian in ethnicity from time long ago. So the territory was essentially reunited with Russia by a majority vote.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

This plan to detach Kosovo from Serbia is 20+ years old. They tried militarily and failed, they tried through the UN and failed. They then went on their own and split the EU, NATO and the world. Still after 20 years they haven't succeeded so they are finally trying negotiations. Kosovo is a mess, an ISIS breading ground, mafia controlled with Albanians fleeing en-mass.

On the other hand, Crimea voted to join Russia and in a matter of months, everything done quite efficiently and without conflict. Well done to Russia.

Looks like Russia is not interested in endless conflict, like the US.

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

More NATO sponsored propaganda. What a surprise, seeding academic publications like the Southeast European and Black Sea Journal with friendly 'research' which is little more than toilet paper.

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

correct, it makes no sense, but that does not matter to the army of idiots who will agree with anything Putin does
(Dwight, 20 July 2017 17:41)

There you have it, dumber just confirmed what dumb wrote.

rote

pre 6 godina

In Crimea it was the same thing although one could argue that voting was conducted under strict monitoring of the Russian army and secret services and no doubt the outcome was to some degree manipulated.
(George, 20 July 2017 20:49)

what are you talking about after 86,6 % voted in favor of russia ! you can manipulate the remaining 3% only ... CRIMEA MEANS TOO MUCH FOR RUSSIA

Billy Idol

pre 6 godina

The Truth

So if Russians in Crimea voted for seperation it should be allowed? Same for serbs in Republika Srpska? I didn't know it was that easy to gain independence from a country. Albanians in Kosovo can't just decide they want to succeed just because they are a majority, due to very high birthrates. Kosovo is still legaly part of Serbia.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic, 20 July 2017 17:46)

Where were you during the srebrenica, bosnia, massacre ? Killing underage teenagers ?
Where were you during the Kosova massacres? Killing innocent civilians ? Guess what , Kosova never be servias again.

Dragan

pre 6 godina

@ Dumber

You fail to mention Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. Something the citizens of Serbia did not have an opportunity to do. You also conveniently fail to state that Serbian territory was forcibly taken through illegal bombing of Serbia. Lastly, you fail to admit that Kosovo is not currently "Kosovar" but rather owned and run by the organizations that bombed Serbia. Clearly, you are the latter of your moniker.

rote

pre 6 godina

nobody heard about Crimea problems (made up problems) until they saw Russians soldiers on the streets.
(Avni, 20 July 2017 20:49)

CRIMEA WAS IN THE FOCUS ALL THOSE YEARS OF OCCUPATION.
NOBODY HEARD ABOUT IT ONLY ON THE ANTARCTIDE ...

АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 6 godina

Albanian American : Where were you during the srebrenica, bosnia, massacre ?

Bacha-i harkus ! What massacres are you talking about when everybody already knows how the war in Bosnia started after the two explosions at the bazar and after the Serbian villages were massacred ...

by the way "Bacha-i " means "SON OF" ...
use Osmani language to translate "HARKUS" ...
it's composed of words HAR and KUS ...

THAT'S WHO YOU REALLY ARE AND
THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE REALLY FROM

Hank the Tank

pre 6 godina

The west thought they could just bomb a country and steal a part of its territory and everybody would forget about it. Well no one has forgotten and Ukraine is just the begining. The Kosovo experiment will cost the west dearly.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

I do not respect referendums that do not include that WHOLE country!
If WHOLE Srbija voted to let K&M go their separate way, I would agree!
If WHOLE Ukraine voted to let Crimea go, I would agree!
Otherwise , ths is called Pandora's box...and it won't stop until the "powers to be" feel this same injustice and revert back to international norm!

Watcher

pre 6 godina

LOL, the water just gets muddier and muddier;) EXACTLY where the "powers to be" want everyone...and "everyone" is just blaming each other! Cannon fodder...is all "everyone" is...lol

Joe A

pre 6 godina

Well, it is not only Russia. Catalunya and others also use the same argument. That international court ruling that said that the proclamation of independence was not illegal (which does not say that the actual independence was legal) opened up Pandora's box. It means that anybody and their kitchen sink can proclaim independence.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Then I guess you wont be bothered when Kosovo overwhelmingly votes to join Albania.
(Gjon Marku, 20 July 2017 20:46)
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Albania might be.