And there you have it from 'Srebrenica Survivor'. Srebrenica = Auschwitz, so clearly 'Bosnia' = the 'Holocaust'. Not a shred of shame or embarrassment to write such odious bs. Maybe 'Srebrenica Survivor' learned an alternate history of the Holocaust and the Nazi death camps where over six million men, women and children civilians were exterminated? You not only openly insult Jewish people like myself, you insult the Armenians, Rwandans and others, just so that you can be 'in the club' and be treated special. You really are a piece of work. It's not an honor to face extermination or something fashionable we wish to score political points with, but you think it is. SHAME ON YOU!
TIMES WHEN WESTERN MEDIA COULD AFFORD WRITING THEIR TALES AND APPOINTING THE GUILTIES ARE OVER NOW. WE HAVE THE WEB AND THE RUSSIAN COUNTER PROPAGANDA MACHINE - BOTH WORKING VERY EFFECTIVE.
As I said before they will be burying "Srebrenica bodies" still in the year 3787. So far of the buried in Potocari the vast, vast majority are from Tusla, Sarajevo and other fronts and nothing to do with Srebrenica.
The problem with the Bosniaks is they don’t realise that their Srebrenica use by date has expired. The US does not care.
For those not terribly smart people, and most Albanians would come into this category, if a 14 year old boy was holding a AK47 then there is nothing wrong in liquidating that individual. Now for those who claim these lads were part of the Bosniak Army, well that army did not take in children into their ranks, but para military groups did just that.
If you really want to know Srebrenica does not come within 1000 light years of Auschwitz or Jasenovac.
The Srebrenica genocide annual memorial will never go away. Just like Aushwitz every year people will gather at Srebrenica to remember those that were so brutally massacred. Period 🇧🇦
The question remains why was it ok for the US to destroy all those kids in Hiroshima and Nagasaki
(Mil, 11 July 2017 16:28)
Who is saying that it was OK for the US to destroy all those kids in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?! And what does that have to do with Srebrenica?!
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What of all those Serb kids killed in surrounding villages?
(Mil, 11 July 2017 16:28)
Yes, what of them?! It's not clear what your question is!
somebody came in and killed the wife so how can she be alive then
(Joe A, 11 July 2017 15:41)
She can't be alive because you just said that somebody killed her! Dear, next time, you may want to read one part of your sentence, before writing the next lol
Soldiers of the ArBiH, as recognized and listed by Sarajevo itself and documented by the Sarajevo based missing persons commission or whatever it is called these days.
Why is this lie of omission still going on? Is the media still afraid to report this fact?
(EU Dude, 11 July 2017 16:13)
The media do not report it because this is not true. There is no doubt that some soldiers were killed in shootouts but the vast majority were unarmed prisoners executed in a systematic way, with a massive amount of effort put into hiding the events. Most of these unarmed prisoners were not captured soldiers, they were civilians.
Also read: 'Srebrenica as Genocide? The Krsti Decision and
the Language of the Unspeakable' by Katherine G. Southwick in a Yale Law School publication.
Well, you said that the door was unlocked and somebody came in and killed the wife so how can she be alive then if there is a guard? Because the guard failed his duties.
(Joe A, 11 July 2017 15:41)
--
It doesn't matter anymore because reports confirmed IS leaders had a meeting in the house and US planes bombed it, killing all occupants, including a family with 6 children.
Believe it or not, the wife was out with a customer. She is still alive and on her way to Germany, as a refugee.
"Men and boys". No. Soldiers of the ArBiH, as recognized and listed by Sarajevo itself and documented by the Sarajevo based missing persons commission or whatever it is called these days.
Why is this lie of omission still going on? Is the media still afraid to report this fact?
Sure, some Prisoners of War were illegally executed in indisputable contravention of the Geneva Conventions on PoWs, but most of them weren't. The UN itself recognized that the ArBih 28th Mountain Division column that broke out of Srebrenica instead of surrendering and marched for Tuzla through the forest as being military in purpose, armed, even if with some civilian taggers on. The same for the report by the Dutch Institute of War Documentation of 2001 (?).
Still, its better to concentrate on a heavily spun version of events than ask why Oric and other lead commanders of the 28th were helicoptered out shortly before Srebrenica fell, leaving it without its most experience officers. So to do various officials of Srebrenica question.
Someone here posted a while back the legal opinion of judge Prisca Nyambe of the ICTY on Srebrenica. I cannot find the link, but look it up. It makes for interesting reading.
It was a war crime, but you have to understand the vast majority of the victims were enemy combatants. Plus, Bosniak war time commander Ibran Mustafic wrote an entire book explaining that Naser Oric was primarily responsible for what happened at Srebrenica. Did the fake court ICTY even bring him in to testify regarding the contents of his book? No of course not. He wasn't even questioned about any of this and he was a high-ranking figure in the ArBiH. There are a lot of murky details regarding what actually happened, Serbs are in part responsible, no doubt.
However Bosniak victims (and Serb victims from nearby Kravica and Bratunac) have a right to know what really happened at Srebrenica. The myth that has been created will not help in the reconciliation between Bosniaks and Serbs.
Also read: 'Srebrenica as Genocide? The Krsti Decision and
the Language of the Unspeakable' by Katherine G. Southwick in a Yale Law School publication.
There goes Passover, what next planning to destroy Christmas. The question remains why was it ok for the US to destroy all those kids in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the poor kids in Dresden, is it just a timeing issue? What of all those Serb kids killed in surrounding villages?
(icj1, 11 July 2017 14:46)
Well, you said that the door was unlocked and somebody came in and killed the wife so how can she be alive then if there is a guard? Because the guard failed his duties.
Two Dutch journalist from Dutch VPRO channel's TV programme Argos two years claimed to have found evidence in the Clinton archives that there was a secret agreement between the US, France and the UK to not to provide air support in case the enclave was attacked .
You can see how these events keep the region completely divided. No chance of reconciliation for a long long time. What a mess the West made of the former Yugoslavia and trying to blame the Serbs for it.
(Zoran, 11 July 2017 10:38)
Taking for a moment at face value the "facts" that you mention... so, according to your logic, if you leave the door of your house unlocked and somebody goes in and kills your wife, you should go to jail for making the mess by leaving the door unlocked, not the person who did the killing!
(icj1, 11 July 2017 12:34) # Comment link
To your logic "icj1",
You leave your door unlocked to your house ,with a bomb in the house .
A their walks threw the door and blows himself up ,you shouldn't be held responsible for the thief ))
You have NI logic "icj1"
Everyone is responsible for these deaths ,from Western Countries to Balkan armies.
While the security guards just watched. Her husband and pimp agreed this sacrifice because they could get the police involved to blame the neighbours and call it a genocide. However, the security firm later admitted it bore responsibility.
Suppose you had a security guard guarding that door but he knowingly failed to act, would the wife then be dead or alive?
(Joe A, 11 July 2017 13:26)
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It's not that simple either Joe, the wife named Nassar Oric with her murderers would roam the streets at night killing the neighbours (even on Christmas) only to return back home under the protection of security guards (UN Dutch soldiers).
The neighbours could do nothing while the murderers were all protected. When the neighbours finally came for revenge, the wife escaped and left her murderers as a sacrifice.
When the neighbours finally came for revenge
(Zoran, 11 July 2017 14:01)
For revenge against 14 year old boys with hands tied behind their back?!!!!
You are just confirming dear why the UN was right to convict for genocide the members of the VRS who were reponsible for the "revenge", because "revenge" in the form of cold-blooded and organized execution of thousands of men and boys has no place in the civilized world at the end of the 20th century!
(icj1, 11 July 2017 12:34)
Where do I say the killers should not go to jail?
Your simple analogy with keeping the door open makes no sense. Things are a bit more complicated then that but ok, I will bite.
Suppose you had a security guard guarding that door but he knowingly failed to act, would the wife then be dead or alive?
The massacre possibly could have been avoided if there was air support and it is legitimate to ask why there was no air support.
you should go to jail for making the mess by leaving the door unlocked, not the person who did the killing!
(icj1, 11 July 2017 12:34)
For Zoran, the most important thing in determining guilt is what ethnicity and religion the killer and victim are.
If the killer is Serb then he is innocent and the person who left the door open is at fault.
However if the killer is not a Serb and it was a Serb who left the door open, then it was the killers fault.
If both killer and victim are Serbs, then it is the fault of the West :)
Two Dutch journalist from Dutch VPRO channel's TV programme Argos two years claimed to have found evidence in the Clinton archives that there was a secret agreement between the US, France and the UK to not to provide air support in case the enclave was attacked .
You can see how these events keep the region completely divided. No chance of reconciliation for a long long time. What a mess the West made of the former Yugoslavia and trying to blame the Serbs for it.
(Zoran, 11 July 2017 10:38)
Taking for a moment at face value the "facts" that you mention... so, according to your logic, if you leave the door of your house unlocked and somebody goes in and kills your wife, you should go to jail for making the mess by leaving the door unlocked, not the person who did the killing!
Two Dutch journalist from Dutch VPRO channel's TV programme Argos two years claimed to have found evidence in the Clinton archives that there was a secret agreement between the US, France and the UK to not to provide air support in case the enclave was attacked (the French claim they wanted to avoid a situation where the UN would be used a human shields but Dutchbat was not concerned about that when they asked for air support 9 times). Information on this agreement was not shared with the Dutch. Dutchbat asked 9 times for air support and the Dutch government (desperate by then) did that twice. They received some in the end when it was already over.
The Dutch national institute for war documentation (which also provided the report that led to the 2002 fall of the Dutch government over Srebrenica) denies that there was such an agreement. But it has never been properly investigated.
The Appellate Chamber of a Dutch Court confirmed last month the Netherlands was in part liable for the death of 300 Muslims in Srebrenica.
--
The Hague somehow determines that genocide was committed and then a Dutch court confirms that the Netherlands is liable for said "genocide" (along with the UN). When reading Western news articles regarding it, they keep referring to it as a massacre. Looks like it backfired. LOL!
When researching this event, you can see that Bosnian Muslims politicians at the time admit it was a planned sacrifice by Izetbegovic and Clinton to get NATO involved. 5000 must die in Srebrenica was their agreement.
You can see how these events keep the region completely divided. No chance of reconciliation for a long long time. What a mess the West made of the former Yugoslavia and trying to blame the Serbs for it. Thank God the world is finally waking up and the truth is coming out.
The Appellate Chamber of a Dutch Court confirmed last month the Netherlands was in part liable for the death of 300 Muslims in Srebrenica.
--
The Hague somehow determines that genocide was committed and then a Dutch court confirms that the Netherlands is liable for said "genocide" (along with the UN). When reading Western news articles regarding it, they keep referring to it as a massacre. Looks like it backfired. LOL!
When researching this event, you can see that Bosnian Muslims politicians at the time admit it was a planned sacrifice by Izetbegovic and Clinton to get NATO involved. 5000 must die in Srebrenica was their agreement.
You can see how these events keep the region completely divided. No chance of reconciliation for a long long time. What a mess the West made of the former Yugoslavia and trying to blame the Serbs for it. Thank God the world is finally waking up and the truth is coming out.
It was a war crime, but you have to understand the vast majority of the victims were enemy combatants. Plus, Bosniak war time commander Ibran Mustafic wrote an entire book explaining that Naser Oric was primarily responsible for what happened at Srebrenica. Did the fake court ICTY even bring him in to testify regarding the contents of his book? No of course not. He wasn't even questioned about any of this and he was a high-ranking figure in the ArBiH. There are a lot of murky details regarding what actually happened, Serbs are in part responsible, no doubt.
However Bosniak victims (and Serb victims from nearby Kravica and Bratunac) have a right to know what really happened at Srebrenica. The myth that has been created will not help in the reconciliation between Bosniaks and Serbs.
Suppose you had a security guard guarding that door but he knowingly failed to act, would the wife then be dead or alive?
(Joe A, 11 July 2017 13:26)
--
It's not that simple either Joe, the wife named Nassar Oric with her murderers would roam the streets at night killing the neighbours (even on Christmas) only to return back home under the protection of security guards (UN Dutch soldiers).
The neighbours could do nothing while the murderers were all protected. When the neighbours finally came for revenge, the wife escaped and left her murderers as a sacrifice.
While the security guards just watched. Her husband and pimp agreed this sacrifice because they could get the police involved to blame the neighbours and call it a genocide. However, the security firm later admitted it bore responsibility.
Two Dutch journalist from Dutch VPRO channel's TV programme Argos two years claimed to have found evidence in the Clinton archives that there was a secret agreement between the US, France and the UK to not to provide air support in case the enclave was attacked (the French claim they wanted to avoid a situation where the UN would be used a human shields but Dutchbat was not concerned about that when they asked for air support 9 times). Information on this agreement was not shared with the Dutch. Dutchbat asked 9 times for air support and the Dutch government (desperate by then) did that twice. They received some in the end when it was already over.
The Dutch national institute for war documentation (which also provided the report that led to the 2002 fall of the Dutch government over Srebrenica) denies that there was such an agreement. But it has never been properly investigated.
"Men and boys". No. Soldiers of the ArBiH, as recognized and listed by Sarajevo itself and documented by the Sarajevo based missing persons commission or whatever it is called these days.
Why is this lie of omission still going on? Is the media still afraid to report this fact?
Sure, some Prisoners of War were illegally executed in indisputable contravention of the Geneva Conventions on PoWs, but most of them weren't. The UN itself recognized that the ArBih 28th Mountain Division column that broke out of Srebrenica instead of surrendering and marched for Tuzla through the forest as being military in purpose, armed, even if with some civilian taggers on. The same for the report by the Dutch Institute of War Documentation of 2001 (?).
Still, its better to concentrate on a heavily spun version of events than ask why Oric and other lead commanders of the 28th were helicoptered out shortly before Srebrenica fell, leaving it without its most experience officers. So to do various officials of Srebrenica question.
Someone here posted a while back the legal opinion of judge Prisca Nyambe of the ICTY on Srebrenica. I cannot find the link, but look it up. It makes for interesting reading.
There goes Passover, what next planning to destroy Christmas. The question remains why was it ok for the US to destroy all those kids in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the poor kids in Dresden, is it just a timeing issue? What of all those Serb kids killed in surrounding villages?
Well, you said that the door was unlocked and somebody came in and killed the wife so how can she be alive then if there is a guard? Because the guard failed his duties.
(Joe A, 11 July 2017 15:41)
--
It doesn't matter anymore because reports confirmed IS leaders had a meeting in the house and US planes bombed it, killing all occupants, including a family with 6 children.
Believe it or not, the wife was out with a customer. She is still alive and on her way to Germany, as a refugee.
(icj1, 11 July 2017 12:34)
Where do I say the killers should not go to jail?
Your simple analogy with keeping the door open makes no sense. Things are a bit more complicated then that but ok, I will bite.
Suppose you had a security guard guarding that door but he knowingly failed to act, would the wife then be dead or alive?
The massacre possibly could have been avoided if there was air support and it is legitimate to ask why there was no air support.
Two Dutch journalist from Dutch VPRO channel's TV programme Argos two years claimed to have found evidence in the Clinton archives that there was a secret agreement between the US, France and the UK to not to provide air support in case the enclave was attacked .
You can see how these events keep the region completely divided. No chance of reconciliation for a long long time. What a mess the West made of the former Yugoslavia and trying to blame the Serbs for it.
(Zoran, 11 July 2017 10:38)
Taking for a moment at face value the "facts" that you mention... so, according to your logic, if you leave the door of your house unlocked and somebody goes in and kills your wife, you should go to jail for making the mess by leaving the door unlocked, not the person who did the killing!
(icj1, 11 July 2017 12:34) # Comment link
To your logic "icj1",
You leave your door unlocked to your house ,with a bomb in the house .
A their walks threw the door and blows himself up ,you shouldn't be held responsible for the thief ))
You have NI logic "icj1"
Everyone is responsible for these deaths ,from Western Countries to Balkan armies.
(icj1, 11 July 2017 14:46)
Well, you said that the door was unlocked and somebody came in and killed the wife so how can she be alive then if there is a guard? Because the guard failed his duties.
Two Dutch journalist from Dutch VPRO channel's TV programme Argos two years claimed to have found evidence in the Clinton archives that there was a secret agreement between the US, France and the UK to not to provide air support in case the enclave was attacked .
You can see how these events keep the region completely divided. No chance of reconciliation for a long long time. What a mess the West made of the former Yugoslavia and trying to blame the Serbs for it.
(Zoran, 11 July 2017 10:38)
Taking for a moment at face value the "facts" that you mention... so, according to your logic, if you leave the door of your house unlocked and somebody goes in and kills your wife, you should go to jail for making the mess by leaving the door unlocked, not the person who did the killing!
you should go to jail for making the mess by leaving the door unlocked, not the person who did the killing!
(icj1, 11 July 2017 12:34)
For Zoran, the most important thing in determining guilt is what ethnicity and religion the killer and victim are.
If the killer is Serb then he is innocent and the person who left the door open is at fault.
However if the killer is not a Serb and it was a Serb who left the door open, then it was the killers fault.
If both killer and victim are Serbs, then it is the fault of the West :)
Also read: 'Srebrenica as Genocide? The Krsti Decision and
the Language of the Unspeakable' by Katherine G. Southwick in a Yale Law School publication.
As I said before they will be burying "Srebrenica bodies" still in the year 3787. So far of the buried in Potocari the vast, vast majority are from Tusla, Sarajevo and other fronts and nothing to do with Srebrenica.
The problem with the Bosniaks is they don’t realise that their Srebrenica use by date has expired. The US does not care.
For those not terribly smart people, and most Albanians would come into this category, if a 14 year old boy was holding a AK47 then there is nothing wrong in liquidating that individual. Now for those who claim these lads were part of the Bosniak Army, well that army did not take in children into their ranks, but para military groups did just that.
If you really want to know Srebrenica does not come within 1000 light years of Auschwitz or Jasenovac.
Also read: 'Srebrenica as Genocide? The Krsti Decision and
the Language of the Unspeakable' by Katherine G. Southwick in a Yale Law School publication.
The Srebrenica genocide annual memorial will never go away. Just like Aushwitz every year people will gather at Srebrenica to remember those that were so brutally massacred. Period 🇧🇦
When the neighbours finally came for revenge
(Zoran, 11 July 2017 14:01)
For revenge against 14 year old boys with hands tied behind their back?!!!!
You are just confirming dear why the UN was right to convict for genocide the members of the VRS who were reponsible for the "revenge", because "revenge" in the form of cold-blooded and organized execution of thousands of men and boys has no place in the civilized world at the end of the 20th century!
Soldiers of the ArBiH, as recognized and listed by Sarajevo itself and documented by the Sarajevo based missing persons commission or whatever it is called these days.
Why is this lie of omission still going on? Is the media still afraid to report this fact?
(EU Dude, 11 July 2017 16:13)
The media do not report it because this is not true. There is no doubt that some soldiers were killed in shootouts but the vast majority were unarmed prisoners executed in a systematic way, with a massive amount of effort put into hiding the events. Most of these unarmed prisoners were not captured soldiers, they were civilians.
The question remains why was it ok for the US to destroy all those kids in Hiroshima and Nagasaki
(Mil, 11 July 2017 16:28)
Who is saying that it was OK for the US to destroy all those kids in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?! And what does that have to do with Srebrenica?!
----------
What of all those Serb kids killed in surrounding villages?
(Mil, 11 July 2017 16:28)
Yes, what of them?! It's not clear what your question is!
TIMES WHEN WESTERN MEDIA COULD AFFORD WRITING THEIR TALES AND APPOINTING THE GUILTIES ARE OVER NOW. WE HAVE THE WEB AND THE RUSSIAN COUNTER PROPAGANDA MACHINE - BOTH WORKING VERY EFFECTIVE.
somebody came in and killed the wife so how can she be alive then
(Joe A, 11 July 2017 15:41)
She can't be alive because you just said that somebody killed her! Dear, next time, you may want to read one part of your sentence, before writing the next lol
And there you have it from 'Srebrenica Survivor'. Srebrenica = Auschwitz, so clearly 'Bosnia' = the 'Holocaust'. Not a shred of shame or embarrassment to write such odious bs. Maybe 'Srebrenica Survivor' learned an alternate history of the Holocaust and the Nazi death camps where over six million men, women and children civilians were exterminated? You not only openly insult Jewish people like myself, you insult the Armenians, Rwandans and others, just so that you can be 'in the club' and be treated special. You really are a piece of work. It's not an honor to face extermination or something fashionable we wish to score political points with, but you think it is. SHAME ON YOU!
When the neighbours finally came for revenge
(Zoran, 11 July 2017 14:01)
For revenge against 14 year old boys with hands tied behind their back?!!!!
You are just confirming dear why the UN was right to convict for genocide the members of the VRS who were reponsible for the "revenge", because "revenge" in the form of cold-blooded and organized execution of thousands of men and boys has no place in the civilized world at the end of the 20th century!
Two Dutch journalist from Dutch VPRO channel's TV programme Argos two years claimed to have found evidence in the Clinton archives that there was a secret agreement between the US, France and the UK to not to provide air support in case the enclave was attacked .
You can see how these events keep the region completely divided. No chance of reconciliation for a long long time. What a mess the West made of the former Yugoslavia and trying to blame the Serbs for it.
(Zoran, 11 July 2017 10:38)
Taking for a moment at face value the "facts" that you mention... so, according to your logic, if you leave the door of your house unlocked and somebody goes in and kills your wife, you should go to jail for making the mess by leaving the door unlocked, not the person who did the killing!
you should go to jail for making the mess by leaving the door unlocked, not the person who did the killing!
(icj1, 11 July 2017 12:34)
For Zoran, the most important thing in determining guilt is what ethnicity and religion the killer and victim are.
If the killer is Serb then he is innocent and the person who left the door open is at fault.
However if the killer is not a Serb and it was a Serb who left the door open, then it was the killers fault.
If both killer and victim are Serbs, then it is the fault of the West :)
The Srebrenica genocide annual memorial will never go away. Just like Aushwitz every year people will gather at Srebrenica to remember those that were so brutally massacred. Period 🇧🇦
The Appellate Chamber of a Dutch Court confirmed last month the Netherlands was in part liable for the death of 300 Muslims in Srebrenica.
--
The Hague somehow determines that genocide was committed and then a Dutch court confirms that the Netherlands is liable for said "genocide" (along with the UN). When reading Western news articles regarding it, they keep referring to it as a massacre. Looks like it backfired. LOL!
When researching this event, you can see that Bosnian Muslims politicians at the time admit it was a planned sacrifice by Izetbegovic and Clinton to get NATO involved. 5000 must die in Srebrenica was their agreement.
You can see how these events keep the region completely divided. No chance of reconciliation for a long long time. What a mess the West made of the former Yugoslavia and trying to blame the Serbs for it. Thank God the world is finally waking up and the truth is coming out.
Soldiers of the ArBiH, as recognized and listed by Sarajevo itself and documented by the Sarajevo based missing persons commission or whatever it is called these days.
Why is this lie of omission still going on? Is the media still afraid to report this fact?
(EU Dude, 11 July 2017 16:13)
The media do not report it because this is not true. There is no doubt that some soldiers were killed in shootouts but the vast majority were unarmed prisoners executed in a systematic way, with a massive amount of effort put into hiding the events. Most of these unarmed prisoners were not captured soldiers, they were civilians.
The question remains why was it ok for the US to destroy all those kids in Hiroshima and Nagasaki
(Mil, 11 July 2017 16:28)
Who is saying that it was OK for the US to destroy all those kids in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?! And what does that have to do with Srebrenica?!
----------
What of all those Serb kids killed in surrounding villages?
(Mil, 11 July 2017 16:28)
Yes, what of them?! It's not clear what your question is!
somebody came in and killed the wife so how can she be alive then
(Joe A, 11 July 2017 15:41)
She can't be alive because you just said that somebody killed her! Dear, next time, you may want to read one part of your sentence, before writing the next lol
Suppose you had a security guard guarding that door but he knowingly failed to act, would the wife then be dead or alive?
(Joe A, 11 July 2017 13:26)
--
It's not that simple either Joe, the wife named Nassar Oric with her murderers would roam the streets at night killing the neighbours (even on Christmas) only to return back home under the protection of security guards (UN Dutch soldiers).
The neighbours could do nothing while the murderers were all protected. When the neighbours finally came for revenge, the wife escaped and left her murderers as a sacrifice.
While the security guards just watched. Her husband and pimp agreed this sacrifice because they could get the police involved to blame the neighbours and call it a genocide. However, the security firm later admitted it bore responsibility.
It was a war crime, but you have to understand the vast majority of the victims were enemy combatants. Plus, Bosniak war time commander Ibran Mustafic wrote an entire book explaining that Naser Oric was primarily responsible for what happened at Srebrenica. Did the fake court ICTY even bring him in to testify regarding the contents of his book? No of course not. He wasn't even questioned about any of this and he was a high-ranking figure in the ArBiH. There are a lot of murky details regarding what actually happened, Serbs are in part responsible, no doubt.
However Bosniak victims (and Serb victims from nearby Kravica and Bratunac) have a right to know what really happened at Srebrenica. The myth that has been created will not help in the reconciliation between Bosniaks and Serbs.
As I said before they will be burying "Srebrenica bodies" still in the year 3787. So far of the buried in Potocari the vast, vast majority are from Tusla, Sarajevo and other fronts and nothing to do with Srebrenica.
The problem with the Bosniaks is they don’t realise that their Srebrenica use by date has expired. The US does not care.
For those not terribly smart people, and most Albanians would come into this category, if a 14 year old boy was holding a AK47 then there is nothing wrong in liquidating that individual. Now for those who claim these lads were part of the Bosniak Army, well that army did not take in children into their ranks, but para military groups did just that.
If you really want to know Srebrenica does not come within 1000 light years of Auschwitz or Jasenovac.
Two Dutch journalist from Dutch VPRO channel's TV programme Argos two years claimed to have found evidence in the Clinton archives that there was a secret agreement between the US, France and the UK to not to provide air support in case the enclave was attacked (the French claim they wanted to avoid a situation where the UN would be used a human shields but Dutchbat was not concerned about that when they asked for air support 9 times). Information on this agreement was not shared with the Dutch. Dutchbat asked 9 times for air support and the Dutch government (desperate by then) did that twice. They received some in the end when it was already over.
The Dutch national institute for war documentation (which also provided the report that led to the 2002 fall of the Dutch government over Srebrenica) denies that there was such an agreement. But it has never been properly investigated.
(icj1, 11 July 2017 12:34)
Where do I say the killers should not go to jail?
Your simple analogy with keeping the door open makes no sense. Things are a bit more complicated then that but ok, I will bite.
Suppose you had a security guard guarding that door but he knowingly failed to act, would the wife then be dead or alive?
The massacre possibly could have been avoided if there was air support and it is legitimate to ask why there was no air support.
Well, you said that the door was unlocked and somebody came in and killed the wife so how can she be alive then if there is a guard? Because the guard failed his duties.
(Joe A, 11 July 2017 15:41)
--
It doesn't matter anymore because reports confirmed IS leaders had a meeting in the house and US planes bombed it, killing all occupants, including a family with 6 children.
Believe it or not, the wife was out with a customer. She is still alive and on her way to Germany, as a refugee.
Two Dutch journalist from Dutch VPRO channel's TV programme Argos two years claimed to have found evidence in the Clinton archives that there was a secret agreement between the US, France and the UK to not to provide air support in case the enclave was attacked .
You can see how these events keep the region completely divided. No chance of reconciliation for a long long time. What a mess the West made of the former Yugoslavia and trying to blame the Serbs for it.
(Zoran, 11 July 2017 10:38)
Taking for a moment at face value the "facts" that you mention... so, according to your logic, if you leave the door of your house unlocked and somebody goes in and kills your wife, you should go to jail for making the mess by leaving the door unlocked, not the person who did the killing!
(icj1, 11 July 2017 12:34) # Comment link
To your logic "icj1",
You leave your door unlocked to your house ,with a bomb in the house .
A their walks threw the door and blows himself up ,you shouldn't be held responsible for the thief ))
You have NI logic "icj1"
Everyone is responsible for these deaths ,from Western Countries to Balkan armies.
"Men and boys". No. Soldiers of the ArBiH, as recognized and listed by Sarajevo itself and documented by the Sarajevo based missing persons commission or whatever it is called these days.
Why is this lie of omission still going on? Is the media still afraid to report this fact?
Sure, some Prisoners of War were illegally executed in indisputable contravention of the Geneva Conventions on PoWs, but most of them weren't. The UN itself recognized that the ArBih 28th Mountain Division column that broke out of Srebrenica instead of surrendering and marched for Tuzla through the forest as being military in purpose, armed, even if with some civilian taggers on. The same for the report by the Dutch Institute of War Documentation of 2001 (?).
Still, its better to concentrate on a heavily spun version of events than ask why Oric and other lead commanders of the 28th were helicoptered out shortly before Srebrenica fell, leaving it without its most experience officers. So to do various officials of Srebrenica question.
Someone here posted a while back the legal opinion of judge Prisca Nyambe of the ICTY on Srebrenica. I cannot find the link, but look it up. It makes for interesting reading.
(icj1, 11 July 2017 14:46)
Well, you said that the door was unlocked and somebody came in and killed the wife so how can she be alive then if there is a guard? Because the guard failed his duties.
There goes Passover, what next planning to destroy Christmas. The question remains why was it ok for the US to destroy all those kids in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the poor kids in Dresden, is it just a timeing issue? What of all those Serb kids killed in surrounding villages?
Also read: 'Srebrenica as Genocide? The Krsti Decision and
the Language of the Unspeakable' by Katherine G. Southwick in a Yale Law School publication.
Also read: 'Srebrenica as Genocide? The Krsti Decision and
the Language of the Unspeakable' by Katherine G. Southwick in a Yale Law School publication.
TIMES WHEN WESTERN MEDIA COULD AFFORD WRITING THEIR TALES AND APPOINTING THE GUILTIES ARE OVER NOW. WE HAVE THE WEB AND THE RUSSIAN COUNTER PROPAGANDA MACHINE - BOTH WORKING VERY EFFECTIVE.
And there you have it from 'Srebrenica Survivor'. Srebrenica = Auschwitz, so clearly 'Bosnia' = the 'Holocaust'. Not a shred of shame or embarrassment to write such odious bs. Maybe 'Srebrenica Survivor' learned an alternate history of the Holocaust and the Nazi death camps where over six million men, women and children civilians were exterminated? You not only openly insult Jewish people like myself, you insult the Armenians, Rwandans and others, just so that you can be 'in the club' and be treated special. You really are a piece of work. It's not an honor to face extermination or something fashionable we wish to score political points with, but you think it is. SHAME ON YOU!
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