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Tuesday, 13.06.2017.

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"Athens will come under pressure over Skopje's NATO bid"

It is only a matter of time before Athens is under pressure to find a solution for the name dispute in order to allow FYROM to join first NATO and later the EU.

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Greek

pre 6 godina

"It is only a matter of time before Athens is under pressure to find a solution for the name dispute in order to allow FYROM to join first NATO and later the EU"

What "pressure" is that? Are the flaming bigots trolling Greece with Macedonian word games going to rewrite western history to ridiculously claim ancient Macedonians werer Slavs from ancient paeonia? Going to bomb the Parthenon? Ban the Greek language to hide their shame of betraying Greece?

Now that the former Yugoslavians have turned into "ancient Macedonians", right before the eyes of the scumbags that called them "Macedonians"... the pressure is no longer on Greeks. The pressure is on the antihellenic cockroaches that continue to call obvious frauds "Macedonians".

elefterios

pre 6 godina

Sam, when you are the most historically influential nation on earth you do not negotiate your history with a nation of abandoned Bulgarian speaking Slavs. Macedonia is a Greek word. Ancient Macedonia falls 100% within Greece. All ancient Macedonian inscriptions are in Greek. All ancient Macedonian coins were written in Greek. Unless you speak Greek you cannot have the history. It's not up to a nation of Slavs to negotiate with the most influential nation on earth the name. The name is Greek. Antiquization, irrendentism and nation building are a heretic belief. Academia and Science does not allow such distortions. That's why the name will change. Ethnic Bulgarians of FYROM must know their place. Their history is in Bulgaria. Their future lies in Greece. Be nice to the Hellenes. Its in your interests.

Sam

pre 6 godina

Skepticism


it was the Macedonians and shame on them that allowed their Identity and existence to be debated and negotiated that should never have happened
the only solution is for the Macedonians to leave the table because Greece has the problem it her her inherit problem because her agenda is to remove the Macedonians off the map off the face of the Earth that is clear

Have a nice day then go to hell

Sam

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeu
why you ask there was no such think as Greek Macedonia
Greece and Serbia shared a common border that is why
build a bridge and get over it the Maks are not going any were be friends it is easier

elefterios

pre 6 godina

The name dispute will never resolve itself. Greek history cannot be negotiated. Just the word macedonia in FYROM’S name is unethical. The word is Greek. The history is Greek. The entire map of ancient Macedonia falls within Greece. FYROM is not Macedonia. The likehood that composite names will be accepted by the deluded ultranationalist Slavic population of FYROM is zero. My prediction is they will come up with a composite name. It will go to a referendum and be knocked back. FYROM will be admitted to the EU, NATO, UP, IOC, FIFA ect under their current provisional name for fear of gravitating towards Russia. Nothing will be gained. The Antiquization program of FYROM during the last decade cannot be reversed . Even the left wing of FYROMIAN politics is now polluted and Antiquated. It’s an impossible to solve situation without the UN correcting the situation both historically and scientifically via academia.

Skepticism

pre 6 godina

Pressure on matters of natural interests is treason. Skopje can join nato when an acceptable solution is found. If Skopje still exist as a country till then

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 6 godina

Is it me or is NATO slightly fascist? They are indirectly saying that you need to join NATO, or else face instability.

Just how much stability has this organisation brought to the streets of Paris and London?

They have run out of lies, with the US/NATO 700 bases world wide, just ask Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine to name a few.

elefterios

pre 6 godina

Its not a new phenomina. Tito caused the damage. We Greeks have been vocal from day one. See below:

The Yugoslav People's Liberation War began officially in 1941 in the territory of the Republic of Macedonia. On 2 August 1944 (St. Elias's Day), honoring the fighters of the Ilinden Uprising, the Anti-fascist Assembly for the National Liberation of Macedonia (ASNOM), meeting in Serbia, constituted the Macedonian state (Democratic Federal Macedonia) as a federal state within the framework of the future Yugoslav federation. In 1946 the People's Republic of Macedonia was established as a federal component of the newly proclaimed Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia under the leadership of Josip Broz Tito. The issue of the republic's name immediately sparked controversy with Greece over Greek concerns that it presaged a territorial claim on the Greek coastal region of Macedonia. The US Roosevelt administration expressed the same concern through Edward Stettinius in 1944.The Greek press and the Greek government of Andreas Papandreou continued to express the above concerns confronting the views of Yugoslaviaduring the 1980s and until the Revolutions of 1989.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Elefterios While I can agree with what you wrote, can you explain to me why Greece never raised this question with Tito when Fyrom was Fyrom? Why not back then?

Elefterios

pre 6 godina

There will be zero integration into Europe and NATO without an all encompassing de antiquization platform. Airports, Stadiums, Highways, Flags, School curriculum, television programs, Skopje 2014, statues and the list goes on. There will be zero compromise by the Greeks. Their history is not negotiable. FYROMS Slavic roots need to be acknowledged. Dalchev used to pass death sentences to those who claimed that Alexanders blood ran in their veins. Zaev needs to do the same. Sadly i don't thing that the DUI will be any easier to deal with than the VMRO. Greece, Bulgaria and to a lesser extent Albania are the victims here. Its those nations that have had their history stolen. This stupid assertion that a bilateral conflict with Greece should not curb membership is ridiculous. Its certainly not a bilateral conflict. When a nations steals Greek history its at conflict with the world. Every academic internationally has a problem with FYROM. Ancient Macedonia lies in Greece. Every single Ancient Macedonian inscription is Greek. If FYROM wants exclusivity to the name and the history they will need to change the official language to Greek. Slavs with a Slavic language cannot claim the history for they do not speak Greek. Kindly leave our history alone and celebrate your own. Zero tolerance from this Greek.

Elefterios

pre 6 godina

There will be zero integration into Europe and NATO without an all encompassing de antiquization platform. Airports, Stadiums, Highways, Flags, School curriculum, television programs, Skopje 2014, statues and the list goes on. There will be zero compromise by the Greeks. Their history is not negotiable. FYROMS Slavic roots need to be acknowledged. Dalchev used to pass death sentences to those who claimed that Alexanders blood ran in their veins. Zaev needs to do the same. Sadly i don't thing that the DUI will be any easier to deal with than the VMRO. Greece, Bulgaria and to a lesser extent Albania are the victims here. Its those nations that have had their history stolen. This stupid assertion that a bilateral conflict with Greece should not curb membership is ridiculous. Its certainly not a bilateral conflict. When a nations steals Greek history its at conflict with the world. Every academic internationally has a problem with FYROM. Ancient Macedonia lies in Greece. Every single Ancient Macedonian inscription is Greek. If FYROM wants exclusivity to the name and the history they will need to change the official language to Greek. Slavs with a Slavic language cannot claim the history for they do not speak Greek. Kindly leave our history alone and celebrate your own. Zero tolerance from this Greek.

elefterios

pre 6 godina

Its not a new phenomina. Tito caused the damage. We Greeks have been vocal from day one. See below:

The Yugoslav People's Liberation War began officially in 1941 in the territory of the Republic of Macedonia. On 2 August 1944 (St. Elias's Day), honoring the fighters of the Ilinden Uprising, the Anti-fascist Assembly for the National Liberation of Macedonia (ASNOM), meeting in Serbia, constituted the Macedonian state (Democratic Federal Macedonia) as a federal state within the framework of the future Yugoslav federation. In 1946 the People's Republic of Macedonia was established as a federal component of the newly proclaimed Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia under the leadership of Josip Broz Tito. The issue of the republic's name immediately sparked controversy with Greece over Greek concerns that it presaged a territorial claim on the Greek coastal region of Macedonia. The US Roosevelt administration expressed the same concern through Edward Stettinius in 1944.The Greek press and the Greek government of Andreas Papandreou continued to express the above concerns confronting the views of Yugoslaviaduring the 1980s and until the Revolutions of 1989.

Skepticism

pre 6 godina

Pressure on matters of natural interests is treason. Skopje can join nato when an acceptable solution is found. If Skopje still exist as a country till then

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Elefterios While I can agree with what you wrote, can you explain to me why Greece never raised this question with Tito when Fyrom was Fyrom? Why not back then?

elefterios

pre 6 godina

The name dispute will never resolve itself. Greek history cannot be negotiated. Just the word macedonia in FYROM’S name is unethical. The word is Greek. The history is Greek. The entire map of ancient Macedonia falls within Greece. FYROM is not Macedonia. The likehood that composite names will be accepted by the deluded ultranationalist Slavic population of FYROM is zero. My prediction is they will come up with a composite name. It will go to a referendum and be knocked back. FYROM will be admitted to the EU, NATO, UP, IOC, FIFA ect under their current provisional name for fear of gravitating towards Russia. Nothing will be gained. The Antiquization program of FYROM during the last decade cannot be reversed . Even the left wing of FYROMIAN politics is now polluted and Antiquated. It’s an impossible to solve situation without the UN correcting the situation both historically and scientifically via academia.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 6 godina

Is it me or is NATO slightly fascist? They are indirectly saying that you need to join NATO, or else face instability.

Just how much stability has this organisation brought to the streets of Paris and London?

They have run out of lies, with the US/NATO 700 bases world wide, just ask Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine to name a few.

Greek

pre 6 godina

"It is only a matter of time before Athens is under pressure to find a solution for the name dispute in order to allow FYROM to join first NATO and later the EU"

What "pressure" is that? Are the flaming bigots trolling Greece with Macedonian word games going to rewrite western history to ridiculously claim ancient Macedonians werer Slavs from ancient paeonia? Going to bomb the Parthenon? Ban the Greek language to hide their shame of betraying Greece?

Now that the former Yugoslavians have turned into "ancient Macedonians", right before the eyes of the scumbags that called them "Macedonians"... the pressure is no longer on Greeks. The pressure is on the antihellenic cockroaches that continue to call obvious frauds "Macedonians".

elefterios

pre 6 godina

Sam, when you are the most historically influential nation on earth you do not negotiate your history with a nation of abandoned Bulgarian speaking Slavs. Macedonia is a Greek word. Ancient Macedonia falls 100% within Greece. All ancient Macedonian inscriptions are in Greek. All ancient Macedonian coins were written in Greek. Unless you speak Greek you cannot have the history. It's not up to a nation of Slavs to negotiate with the most influential nation on earth the name. The name is Greek. Antiquization, irrendentism and nation building are a heretic belief. Academia and Science does not allow such distortions. That's why the name will change. Ethnic Bulgarians of FYROM must know their place. Their history is in Bulgaria. Their future lies in Greece. Be nice to the Hellenes. Its in your interests.

Sam

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeu
why you ask there was no such think as Greek Macedonia
Greece and Serbia shared a common border that is why
build a bridge and get over it the Maks are not going any were be friends it is easier

Sam

pre 6 godina

Skepticism


it was the Macedonians and shame on them that allowed their Identity and existence to be debated and negotiated that should never have happened
the only solution is for the Macedonians to leave the table because Greece has the problem it her her inherit problem because her agenda is to remove the Macedonians off the map off the face of the Earth that is clear

Have a nice day then go to hell

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Elefterios While I can agree with what you wrote, can you explain to me why Greece never raised this question with Tito when Fyrom was Fyrom? Why not back then?

Elefterios

pre 6 godina

There will be zero integration into Europe and NATO without an all encompassing de antiquization platform. Airports, Stadiums, Highways, Flags, School curriculum, television programs, Skopje 2014, statues and the list goes on. There will be zero compromise by the Greeks. Their history is not negotiable. FYROMS Slavic roots need to be acknowledged. Dalchev used to pass death sentences to those who claimed that Alexanders blood ran in their veins. Zaev needs to do the same. Sadly i don't thing that the DUI will be any easier to deal with than the VMRO. Greece, Bulgaria and to a lesser extent Albania are the victims here. Its those nations that have had their history stolen. This stupid assertion that a bilateral conflict with Greece should not curb membership is ridiculous. Its certainly not a bilateral conflict. When a nations steals Greek history its at conflict with the world. Every academic internationally has a problem with FYROM. Ancient Macedonia lies in Greece. Every single Ancient Macedonian inscription is Greek. If FYROM wants exclusivity to the name and the history they will need to change the official language to Greek. Slavs with a Slavic language cannot claim the history for they do not speak Greek. Kindly leave our history alone and celebrate your own. Zero tolerance from this Greek.

elefterios

pre 6 godina

Its not a new phenomina. Tito caused the damage. We Greeks have been vocal from day one. See below:

The Yugoslav People's Liberation War began officially in 1941 in the territory of the Republic of Macedonia. On 2 August 1944 (St. Elias's Day), honoring the fighters of the Ilinden Uprising, the Anti-fascist Assembly for the National Liberation of Macedonia (ASNOM), meeting in Serbia, constituted the Macedonian state (Democratic Federal Macedonia) as a federal state within the framework of the future Yugoslav federation. In 1946 the People's Republic of Macedonia was established as a federal component of the newly proclaimed Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia under the leadership of Josip Broz Tito. The issue of the republic's name immediately sparked controversy with Greece over Greek concerns that it presaged a territorial claim on the Greek coastal region of Macedonia. The US Roosevelt administration expressed the same concern through Edward Stettinius in 1944.The Greek press and the Greek government of Andreas Papandreou continued to express the above concerns confronting the views of Yugoslaviaduring the 1980s and until the Revolutions of 1989.

Sam

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeu
why you ask there was no such think as Greek Macedonia
Greece and Serbia shared a common border that is why
build a bridge and get over it the Maks are not going any were be friends it is easier

Sam

pre 6 godina

Skepticism


it was the Macedonians and shame on them that allowed their Identity and existence to be debated and negotiated that should never have happened
the only solution is for the Macedonians to leave the table because Greece has the problem it her her inherit problem because her agenda is to remove the Macedonians off the map off the face of the Earth that is clear

Have a nice day then go to hell

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 6 godina

Is it me or is NATO slightly fascist? They are indirectly saying that you need to join NATO, or else face instability.

Just how much stability has this organisation brought to the streets of Paris and London?

They have run out of lies, with the US/NATO 700 bases world wide, just ask Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine to name a few.

Skepticism

pre 6 godina

Pressure on matters of natural interests is treason. Skopje can join nato when an acceptable solution is found. If Skopje still exist as a country till then

elefterios

pre 6 godina

The name dispute will never resolve itself. Greek history cannot be negotiated. Just the word macedonia in FYROM’S name is unethical. The word is Greek. The history is Greek. The entire map of ancient Macedonia falls within Greece. FYROM is not Macedonia. The likehood that composite names will be accepted by the deluded ultranationalist Slavic population of FYROM is zero. My prediction is they will come up with a composite name. It will go to a referendum and be knocked back. FYROM will be admitted to the EU, NATO, UP, IOC, FIFA ect under their current provisional name for fear of gravitating towards Russia. Nothing will be gained. The Antiquization program of FYROM during the last decade cannot be reversed . Even the left wing of FYROMIAN politics is now polluted and Antiquated. It’s an impossible to solve situation without the UN correcting the situation both historically and scientifically via academia.

elefterios

pre 6 godina

Sam, when you are the most historically influential nation on earth you do not negotiate your history with a nation of abandoned Bulgarian speaking Slavs. Macedonia is a Greek word. Ancient Macedonia falls 100% within Greece. All ancient Macedonian inscriptions are in Greek. All ancient Macedonian coins were written in Greek. Unless you speak Greek you cannot have the history. It's not up to a nation of Slavs to negotiate with the most influential nation on earth the name. The name is Greek. Antiquization, irrendentism and nation building are a heretic belief. Academia and Science does not allow such distortions. That's why the name will change. Ethnic Bulgarians of FYROM must know their place. Their history is in Bulgaria. Their future lies in Greece. Be nice to the Hellenes. Its in your interests.

Greek

pre 6 godina

"It is only a matter of time before Athens is under pressure to find a solution for the name dispute in order to allow FYROM to join first NATO and later the EU"

What "pressure" is that? Are the flaming bigots trolling Greece with Macedonian word games going to rewrite western history to ridiculously claim ancient Macedonians werer Slavs from ancient paeonia? Going to bomb the Parthenon? Ban the Greek language to hide their shame of betraying Greece?

Now that the former Yugoslavians have turned into "ancient Macedonians", right before the eyes of the scumbags that called them "Macedonians"... the pressure is no longer on Greeks. The pressure is on the antihellenic cockroaches that continue to call obvious frauds "Macedonians".