"Terrible Kosovo precedent poisoned relations with Russia"

So weighing this up, Russia recognises South Ossetia and Abkhazia thus preventing Georgia from entering NATO and manages to reclaim Crimea, securing its Black sea fleet base and preventing Ukraine from entering NATO.

In exchange, the US ended up with a crime infested occupied Kosovo and turning the regional power (Serbia) against it, thus preventing Serbia from entering NATO.

What a mess the US and its EU "partners" have created. With the Kosovo precedent, the world is a much less safer place. Now the EU is starting to disintegrate and western unity is starting to divide. Karma...

Slowly but surely, the wind is beginning to sail against the separatists in Serbia's southern province. We've seen this already with the U.S. coming out against a 'kosovo army', something they never would have done only 5 years ago. It will take time for the complete change to happen. It will start by pulling back support more and more while still recognizing the land theft. However if Serbia continues to grow its economy at this rate then the separatists will have a weaker hand year by year. Remember, the separatists cannot survive without handouts and even then they still can't help lift their people out of poverty. Political changes combined with Serbia's growing economy will eventually be enough to convince rational ordinary Albanians to accept high autonomy while the heroin/sex slave traffickers and terrorists will get eradicated without NATO intervening to save them again.

Love it, excellent article and couldn't be more correct, but as usual the albo trolls have to whine and complain. Dont albo's they have their own news sites as they always seem to be on B92's site, perhpas not. Its so good that the good ol west is finally learning that its no longer their way or the highway...Keep in mind what goes around comes around.

Bravo!

I read the article and frankly its nonsense. If anyone for a second believes that had NATO not intervened in the entities that made up Yugoslavia, then Russia would not have entered either South Osettia or Crimea, then they are truly deluded.

Love it, excellent article and couldn't be more correct, but as usual the albo trolls have to whine and complain. Dont albo's they have their own news sites as they always seem to be on B92's site, perhpas not. Its so good that the good ol west is finally learning that its no longer their way or the highway...Keep in mind what goes around comes around.

Kosovo is a precedent??

And what about Georgia precedent?
And what about Checenia precedent?
And what about Ukraine precedent?
In which part stand the US and Europe in these cases?

Kosovo is not a Russian interest but Georgia, Checenia, Ukraina were and still are!

Joni, 22 May 2017 12:22)

I can understand only parts of what you have posted, but why would Russia support Albania over Serbia?

Kosovo was a frozen conflict which you Serbs didn't know how to handled.

A 10 year old knows that if you could give Albanians power they would have been part of Serbia.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 22 May 2017 16:00)
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Sorry to disappoint, but it had little to do with what Albanians wanted. It had everything to do with what the US wanted. That was the time it reigned supreme but thankfully those days are over. It made a complete mess of the world.

@Therret Prizen - "Kosovo" was not ever a country so that it can be liberated! It is a province of Republic of Serbia! You can't just come and forcefully take a piece of someone's country and call it another country and call it "liberation"...Doesn't matter who you are, USA, Russia, Serbia, Albania,etc! Might will never mean right! At the end of the day, God, and only God, will repay!

"...writes ted Galen Carpenter..." that's the same guy from Cato Institute whom you have quoted a thousand and one times before. Aren't you supposed to be a news outlet?

I read the article and frankly its nonsense. If anyone for a second believes that had NATO not intervened in the entities that made up Yugoslavia, then Russia would not have entered either South Osettia or Crimea, then they are truly deluded.
(Nikolle, 22 May 2017 11:19)

Most interested to know why did Russia enter Ossetia and Abkhazia, and take Crimea then?

The culprits, Blair and Clinton, are sitting high and dry. There is no righteousness but for those who taketh.

Love it, excellent article and couldn't be more correct, but as usual the albo trolls have to whine and complain. Dont albo's they have their own news sites as they always seem to be on B92's site, perhpas not. Its so good that the good ol west is finally learning that its no longer their way or the highway...Keep in mind what goes around comes around.
(Boz, 22 May 2017 12:05)

The article is only wrong:

1) Serbian army was killing innocent people all over Yugoslavia, and the article only focus on how the USA and EU, and most of the sane world, reacted on that. Cause and effect – very simple

2) This site is in English – hence! And Albanian don’t even Trolle, but you manage to do that on your own site. So freak’n awesome

3) The West and the USA and the rest of the normal world…. We’ll We still have a State Called Kosova, so nobody is “awaking”. Galen Carpenter has always had that viewpoint.

But Hey, you are the troll – who am I too lecture ;)

@nikolle- you're right, Moscow probably has no interest in K&M... other than JUSTIFICATION to do what they need to do for their own interest!
That's ALL they needed...and it fell into their lap in a silver platter! And Albanians STILL think the west "CARES" about them and their "cause"!

I think it's fair enough to say that neither Russia, nor the United States, give one fig about Albanians, Ossetians, Abkhazis, Serbs, Georgians, or Ukrainians. The precedent was certainly set with Washington's arrogant stance on Kosovo, but let's be honest: Washington's biggest cheering section came from Moscow, seeing has how it now got a green light to engage in its own Realpolitik.

Russia would not have done anything if it wasn't for NATO's expansionist agenda. You cannot join NATO if your border is in dispute so how easy was it for Russia to stop Georgia and Ukraine joining?

NATO is the destabilising factor here, not Russia. Once the precedent was set in Kosovo and NATO continued its ambition to expand, they handed over Crimea and potentially the eastern part of Ukraine. So NATO gained an unstable Kosovo (temporarily) but lost Ukraine and Georgia while Russia gets Crimea and secures its black sea fleet.

Looks like Russia is the winner to me. Serbia leans towards Russia, as it always has but is now in a position play with both east and west.

(Joni, 22 May 2017 14:46)

It does not matter if the EU recognizes Crimea being as part of Russia but Russia will not recognize Kosovo's independence because it backs Serbia. Kosovo is insignificant in the scheme of things. To you it might look important but trust me its not.

@Watcher

I don't think the West cares for Albanians anymore than they care for Serbs

Internal Russian interest
(Nikolle, 22 May 2017 15:19)

Good answer but there is more to it. Russia went into George and Ukraine to stop those countries joining NATO. When the Soviet Union collapsed, the US reached an agreement over several issues with Russia and one being not to take in any of the former Soviet countries into NATO.
The ink was not even dry the Baltic nations were brought into NATO and plans to expand were already in the pipeline. George was next so when the Olympic games were held in Beijing Condalezza Rice flew to Tbilisi and gave the green light to take back Ossetia by force and the rest you know.
Crimea was always Russian but its strategic importance can never be underestimated. The British fought the Russians for Crimea over 150 years ago. If NATO established a base there it would be a major threat to Russia and a step to China’s back door. That’s why China is in with Russia against the US.

(Therret Prizreni, 22 May 2017 18:44)

I am very interested to know just what does Kosovo produce to have growth rates of 3.5%?
You actually believe this nonsense that the Kosovo economy is stronger than Serbia.
There is no industry/manufacturing in Kosovo and the only two areas of employment are government which is paid for by aid from the EU and service industry such as restaurants, stores and some small businesses, but this is small fry. The only reason unemployment has fallen from the official 45% is because people are leaving Kosovo.
If foreign aid is only 8% of Kosovo’s budget then where does the rest come from? Kosovo does not somehow magically fills its budget from its so called economy. These Kosovo growth figures which are quoted often are as dubious as the US level of unemployment of 4.4% and even Donald Trump laughs at that one.
The EU use a very old trick where it masks aid by calling them programs.
Go to Kosovo and see for yourself. I have been there and I saw nothing of what you talk about here. All I saw was young people wanting to leave.

Most interested to know why did Russia enter Ossetia and Abkhazia, and take Crimea then?
(sj, 22 May 2017 11:37)

Illuminates us sj?
For the rampage of Albanians or to US, Russians did that? Hahahaa!
Yes, is easy they killed and burned those who spoke the same language, same religion, centuries-old brotherhood just because somewhere in Balkan happened something !
Oh, c'mon!
Is called NATIONAL INTEREST!
And that national interest today support :
Palestine against Israel!
Russia against Ukraine!
And just if EU and US, will support Russia over Crimea – you know very well that Russia will support Albania over Serbia. I know very well that you know that - that is Serbia's nightmare!
NATIONAL INTEREST – FIRST!

"Most interested to know why did Russia enter Ossetia and Abkhazia, and take Crimea then?"

It definitely wasn't because of western intervention in Kosovo

am not aware of the US ever promising Russia or for that matter anyone else not to 'take' Kosovo. As for other countries joining NATO, if its their sovereign will to join NATO, why does Russia care? its for them to decide. No one after all is forced to join
(Nikolle, 23 May 2017 12:32)

I don't know what you are are or not aware of, but after the fall of the Soviet Union the US did give guarantees to Russia. Your naivety is surprising to make a claim as a nations sovereign will to join NATO. If sovereign will is the question I cant recall any nation holding a plebiscite to join.

NATO's original mission no longer exists now its purpose is to encircle Russia then regime change so that democracy and freedom rules and then take over the gas, oil and minerals or as Madeline Albright once said its too much natural wealth for just once country. Once Russia is taken next is China. The US wants to rule the earth Nikki.

Lets just agree to this
The US, Russia and China all have set precedents together
and the most recent is Macedonia

(Reader, 22 May 2017 15:52)

Here is the conundrum. Russia has no accountability to the people, but where is that accountability you talk about in the US? Did the people sanction the loss of 10,000 US troops in Iraq? Did that same accountability kick into action before arming and training even ISL in Syria?
No its called US interests.
There is only a myth called accountability. They give people the illusion of having control but in reality there is none.

Albanians are to the Balkans as the Palestinians are to Israel- making terror and volatile lands.

you obviously don't know what you are talking about; Your calculations are based on hot air and wishful thinking.
Kosova's economy is growing at 3.5% while Serbia's 2.5%.
(Therret Prizreni, 22 May 2017 18:44

Are you kidding me, you actually think that Kosovo's economy is comparable to Serbia's? GDP per capital is half of Serbia, unemployment rate is 35% , no industry other than trying to Steal Trepca's mine. Kosovo was a drain as part of Yugoslavia with Albanian Communists leading and now it's a drain of the EU with Albanian terrorists leading.

It's shameful that Serbia 🇷🇸 still don't understand what it done to yougoslavia
Hundreds thousand people died cos of serbian forced milions pupils from ther homes and B92 still defending that serbia has done nothing wrong?!!!!
An apology from serbian gov would be nice
(Kosta, 23 May 2017 14:49) # Comment link

Yet another person speaking fiction as if it were fact. How many croatians, and bosnians were expelled from serbia? How many from krajna alone, hundreds of thousands. Croatians and bosnian muslims wanted a fight. They were funded by the west to do so. The problem was the serbian army was much stronger so in the end the west had to step in militarily. They were stronger than serbia. Dont act like bosnian muslims and croatians were victims. The did exactly what they intended. The west was out to eliminate serbias influence and power in the region. The only way to do that is to destroy yugoslavia and bring in the national endowment for democracy who then shaped the new territories and new governments of bosnia and croatia. If anybody should be apologizing it would be croatia for killing hundreds of thousands in their ww2 concentration camp, jasenovac, that to this day they wont even admit existed.

"However if Serbia continues to grow its economy at this rate then the separatists will have a weaker hand year by year. Remember, the separatists cannot survive without handouts and even then they still can't help lift their people out of poverty."


You obviously don't know what you are talking about; Your calculations are based on hot air and wishful thinking.

Kosova's economy is growing at 3.5% while Serbia's 2.5%.
Foreign aid makes up only 8% of Kosovo's budget, so much for handouts. I'm pretty sure Serbia receives plenty of foreign aid from EU too, so not much difference there.

No country in history, that was ever liberated, ever went back under the boot of their previous rulers, even if they were faced with extreme hardship. Some things, as Rote says, can not be measured with money. The fact that you somehow hope that Kosova will be the first one to do that - even after the massacres that your government inflicted and for which it not even apologised, just shows the extent of your delusions.

(Joni, 23 May 2017 09:36)

Let’s get this straight, the west does not care about Albanians. If they did they would have done something about that depleted uranium they dropped in 1999. Its still there and its causing cancers such as leukemia.
I hate to burst your bubble but western sanctions against Russia are not hurting Russia at all. If you want to hurt Russia the west should disconnect Moscow from the international bank code system, but the big bankers said No.
Moscow does not care whether the EU or US or the Martians don’t recognise Crimea. Its already part of and functioning within the Russia economy just like Ossetia and Abkhazia in Georgia.
Kosovo is nothing to them at all. You people overestimate your importance. Let’s see who or what is more important to the EU? Russian energy or Albanians?
If Milosevic allowed the US to have a military base in Serbia the US would have ignored the Albanians completely.

Its crazy how much albanians get drunk on their own koolaid. Kosovo is a wasteland now. You have no economy. Your heroine producers, cant trade that on the free market, oly the black market. Serbia is by no means an economic powerhouse compared to alot of european countries, but compared to albania and kosovo its 100 years ahead. Tell me what factories are in kosovo? What does kosovo produce? I rest my case. To the peraon saying serbia doesnt want russian influence, what are you smoking? Seebia has always and will always want it. Its a very unique relationship. The ties between the people are basically unbreakable.

And what about Georgia precedent?
And what about Checenia precedent?
And what about Ukraine precedent?
In which part stand the US and Europe in these cases?

Kosovo is not a Russian interest but Georgia, Checenia, Ukraina were and still are! (Joni, 22 May 2017 12:26)

How do you know all that ? We have very big interest in Kosovo and we have nothing to be ashamed of in all those places that you mentioned. Everywhere we've saved and still save our own people.Be it Ossetians or Abkhaz or Chechen or Russian ... Now it's the Serbs' turn.

So weighing this up, Russia recognises South Ossetia and Abkhazia thus preventing Georgia from entering NATO and manages to reclaim Crimea
(Zoran, 22 May 2017 10:59)

As if Russia would not have done the above, anyway... Russia guaranteed the territorial integrity of Ukraine and still that did not prevent Russia from dismembering Ukraine!

It's not clear, by the way, what benefits Russia got other than having to pay the pensions of Crimea's pensioners with Russia taxpayers' money lol

And as in Kosovo with Albanians, on Crimea the original indigenous population was marginalized and replaced with ethnic Russians before.

But still, only a fool would believe Russia wouldn't have done the same if there wouldn't have been a 'Kosovo precedent case'.
(Comm. Parrisson, 22 May 2017 15:45)

As the Americans used to say in films your theory isn't worth a plug nickle.

@theodore Muzica- you're mistaken badly, and I'm pretty sure you know it;)
Milosevic was handling it pretty much like any other leader of a sovereign country would with internal terrorists killing policemen and looking to steal land.... but he was stopped! Not by the internal terrorists, but by Powers of the west who bred, armed and ultimately came to fight for them!
You know it and now the world is slowly, but surely finding out the truth and exposing it!

Absolutely, since Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it.

(icj1, 23 May 2017 15:56)

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Translation: when icj1, the CB of B92, writes "absolutely", it means "absolutely not".

KiM remains a fenced-in ghetto and, according to UNSCR 1244, an integral part of Serbia.

This is the same icj1 who posts lies that a commonly recognized GDP term is a"nonsensical concept" and "weird thing". Logic to our resident bigot, icj1, has them associating a neurological disorder with ethnicity. icj1 (il)logic has them apologizing for Ante Pavelic and his beloved Ustashe.
icj1 is the only despicable commentator on this site who celebrates crimes against religious institutions with happy face emoticons.

Idiocy, intolerance and ignorance continue to define icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot



And what about Georgia precedent?
And what about Checenia precedent?
And what about Ukraine precedent?


Idiot.

Right sj, thank you for the correction! Albania never invaded Kosovo like Russia did in Crimea.
But I meant Albanians in Kosovo over Serbs( and as much as I consider them my people I make no difference).
And the reason?? What about:For the same reason they support themselves in Crimea ?You don’t like it?
And what about because Russia will never give up on Crimea – and Kosovo is the only scenery Russia and Putin has to justify their actions – so soon or latter EU will recognize Crimea like part of Russia – and Russia will recognize Kosovo, for its own interest.
If not tell me has Russia intention to give Crimea back to Ukraine ?
That’s the "point" when Russians and Albanians are in the same side – we don’t need more.
The only thing that Russians tell against Kosovo is that there was not a referendum like it was in Crimea! Are you smart enough to understand – so it mean, that they are OK if there was a referendum? But actually there was a referendum!
You know that – geopolitics must change but the fact not! Kosovo has nothing to do with the EU and US relations with Russia and this is evident. Russia is just trying to profit on its own from Kosovo. Russians declarations over Kosovo time to time are unclear for me, even though the position over it is not changed yet! One side they tell that support Serbia and in other time they tell that Crimea was based on Kosovo scenery!
If you are smart you understand that both can't stand together!
Now take your hope in a lie...

It definitely wasn't because of western intervention in Kosovo
(Nikolle, 22 May 2017 12:39)

I said why did Russia enter Ossetia and Abkhazia, and take Crimea then?"

Internal Russian interest

Moscow probably has no interest in K&M... other than JUSTIFICATION to do what they need to do for their own interest!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 14:41)

Sure, thus validating Kosovo's position and undermining Serbia's "principled" position about Kosovo lol

It's not clear, by the way, what benefits Russia got other than having to pay the pensions of Crimea's pensioners with Russia taxpayers' money lol
(icj1, 22 May 2017 15:26)

WE DON'T COUNT MONEY SOMETIMES ...

(Nikolle, 23 May 2017 10:50)

NATO intervention did poison relations with Russia since it took action in Yugoslavia because the connection between Russia and Serbia is very deep. In fact Russia entered WW1 because of Serbia.
After the Soviet Union fell polls in Russia indicated that the people actually liked and trusted the Americans. Once military action took place in the Balkans that soured badly and today they don’t trust the US at all. Ukraine and Georgia were in danger of joining NATO so Russia annexed parts of Georgia and Ukraine using the same exact excuse of “special case” the US used when it took over Kosovo.
“Those measures set extremely damaging precedents that have returned to plague the West. “
“….the actions of the United States and its NATO allies in Kosovo further poisoned relations with Russia. In every respect, the U.S.-led Kosovo mission was unwise and counterproductive.”
If you think the US went into Kosovo to save the Albanians, then think again because they only went in there to establish a military base.
If the US kept its word of not taking into NATO the Baltic countries or areas of Russian influence or taking Kosovo, Ukraine and Georgia would not have happened. The hypothesis is correct.

True words.

Most interested to know why did Russia enter Ossetia and Abkhazia, and take Crimea then?
(sj, 22 May 2017 11:37)

It's simply because the wanted to support the violent ethnic Russian minority in these regions who wanted to secede, against the will of the sovereign states these regions belong to. Of course it's similar to Kosovo, where the violent Albanian ethnic minority was behaving similar.

And as in Kosovo with Albanians, on Crimea the original indigenous population was marginalized and replaced with ethnic Russians before.

But still, only a fool would believe Russia wouldn't have done the same if there wouldn't have been a 'Kosovo precedent case'.

"And as in Kosovo with Albanians,..." What population was marginalised, replaced, when did this happen and by whom? Do you just make stuff up to look like you have a point or do you write things based on bullshit?

....What a mess the US and its EU "partners" have created. With the Kosovo precedent, the world is a much less safer place. Now the EU is starting to disintegrate and western unity is starting to divide. Karma...
(Zoran, 22 May 2017 10:59)...

Kosovo was a frozen conflict which you Serbs didn't know how to handled.

A 10 year old knows that if you could give Albanians power they would have been part of Serbia.

Look at Greece who gave the power to Albanians,they are doing fine after 180 independence,they even triple their territory.
Do you think that Greeks who used to be educated, were happy to elect an illiterate Albanian such as Kollocotroni as president, along with main ministers?
Of course they were not,but they knew that it was a good investment in the long run.
The same with Turkey and Egypt.

If you would have give Albanians president and ministers internal of defense and some other key ministers,I can assure you that today Kosovo would have been part of Serbia....

But you lose the logic when you talk about Albanians.
Kosovo's independence was as the result of your idiotic approach.

@Therrit Prizren - What the hell is growing at 3.5%? LOL "legends in your own minds"

The article is very accurate, however, it fails to mention that NATO violated international law by not seeking and thereby receiving a UN Security Council Resolution before bombing Serbia, which is required by member states of the UN as stated in the UN Charter. Madeleine Albright, then Secretary of State, admitted that international law was broken, but no consequences were ever paid by the NATO countries. Such is life when you are a super power, but the tide is changing. The world is fast realizing what the west created in Kosovo and their willingness to defend a narco criminal state is long gone. Time is running out for the Kosovo Albanians and Vicic is playing a shrewd political game by attracting western sympathy and investment every day.

(Joni, 22 May 2017 14:46)

It does not matter if the EU recognizes Crimea being as part of Russia but Russia will not recognize Kosovo's independence because it backs Serbia. Kosovo is insignificant in the scheme of things. To you it might look important but trust me its not.
(sj, 22 May 2017 16:25)

Kosovo is more important than Serbia to Europe, not because is bigger or stronger or they care more about Albanians..
But because, Kosovo mean stability to Europe – so they care about themselves.
Serbia has shown to be a problematic country, with bad relationships with all her neighbors and with Russia that backs you, as you say – Europe will be against – UK first - you are the only warmongers for EU - and to imagine even Russia behind is a problem for EU.
So if they ever will recognize Crimea and take off the sanctions – they would care about the stability and of course will care to not have Russian influence in their backyard.
So what you want to bet that Russia will recognize Kosovo if EU recognize Crimea?

It's shameful that Serbia 🇷🇸 still don't understand what it done to yougoslavia
Hundreds thousand people died cos of serbian forced milions pupils from ther homes and B92 still defending that serbia has done nothing wrong?!!!!
An apology from serbian gov would be nice

@ Alb retorts- Holy Cow...;) It's easier talking logic with my 10 yr old than with Albanian trolls on this site! Your "friends" are pissing on you and telling you it's "just rain", and you call it 3.5% GDP growth:) The young are looking to escape "Kosovo" and you call it "the Young Democracy" and Paradise:)You steal another country's piece of land and call it a "country":) Here's the problem, brilliant ones...You can NEVER be a country until Srbija recognizes you, no matter if EVERY country in the world recognizes you. NO ONE will invest in you! No One!! And Srbija will wait another 500 yrs to fix this injustice if it has too...but it will fix it! You're just not smart enough to sit at the table with Vucic and hammer out and agreement that works...whatever that is! This becomes extremely dangerous for youth in "Kosovo"...THAT is why they are looking to get the hell of of there.....3.5% Growth Rate LOL...why would the young look to leave with that kind of growth?? Even my Alb friends here at work laugh!

Stupid people, look at another proof of why America took Kosovo. Why don't they leave? Pack up and go!! Now Trump is CONTINUING THE DANCE with the Saudis - Saudi who is giving money to Kosovo to promote Islam and terrorism. Saudi where terrorism was BORN. Who gives them this money? America!! While Iran, terrorists are hung so fast that you don't get a chance to even hear about it. It's all about OIL and MONEY.

What needs to happen is USA out of Kosovo. Illegal Albanians out of Kosovo back to Albania or Macedonia, etc or those thousands can apply for Serbian citizenship.

From icj: "Absolutely, since Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it."

Hmmm, Last I checked Russia, China (two of the world's most heavily populated countries) along with Serbia, Indonesia, Slovakia, Cyprus, Romania, just to name a some who still haven't recognized Kosovo's independence. Yet another uninformed, inaccurate and just plain dumb comment from icj. Once again icj, you're letting your hatred of the Serbs consume you. It's turned you into a liar. Or were you always a liar? LOL!!

Oh, and let us not forget Spain also icj. The whole world? I think not!!

Yet, you still keep harping your buffoonish Milosevic's slogans, of what you're going to do in 500 years. Dude, in 500 years, me and you and the rest of us will be dirt on the ground. Good luck volunteering humans 500 years into the future to do your bidding.
(Therret Prizreni, 24 May 2017 09:55)

There is a very strong dosconnect between reality and fantasy with people like you. Albanians rebuilt nothing. It was with EU funds and material. However, one part that has me wondering, since you have done all you claim why do you guys bother posting on a Serbian-based media site? Surely being so capable you would have your own media sites but you waste time here trying to convince to Serbs? or actually convince yourselves?

I've been all over Kosova and have not seen evidence of Serbs being mistreated. What I have seen and heard is the outlandish propaganda constantly being spewed by the Serb gov't and media.
(American Soldier, 25 May 2017 00:30)

LOLOLOL. This is really hilarious. First your name, LOL. AS usual another lie. Second there is evidence all over the place, you must have the vision of stevie wonder. What a joke. If only people had as low of an iq as you, they might believe what you said.

@joni - I can understand what you're trying to get, however, your logic is pretty petty! Russia can do what it wants and doesn't have to appease, trade or negotiate with anybody, including Srbija! You are pretty vain to think that the west puts that much stock into your "Kosovo" that it would go up against Moscow to appease you;) Remember, there is ALOT of buffer between the "west" and Russia, however, YOU are in their backyard!! Russia can afford not to make deals and theirs nothing anybody can do about it... but Pristina? Better start talking and negotiating, the world is about to get ugly...

Albanians are to the Balkans as the Palestinians are to Israel- making terror and volatile lands.
(sara, 22 May 2017 21:38)

Typical a phrase of one invader who came in Balkan making terror and stealing lands! But do you learn you history sara..hhh?

My dear, you are to stupid to understand well what you have wrote – but you must illuminate us and tell why Russia support Palestinian case against Israelians?

And maybe can even illuminate us even more to explain why Serbia voted on favour of Palestinians the last time?

@Ari
I pitifully you! You have no eyes?
Someone here told to me that my logic is petty,but how could I explain something so petty to someone who see the hair on Albanians eyes but can't see the trunk on their eyes?
Separatists? Mahh.I bet you are talking to those on R.Srps I suppose because Kosovo is a COUNTRY known by 98% of European countries
So explain it with a petty logic because I'm too stupid to understand.
Ha. You tell that the wind is changing? YES! For the first time in your history you are ALONE against Albanians.
Surrounded with countries that don’t support you anymore against Albanians like it happened in WWI.
Have seen, or noticed the Serbian hysteria recently? The fear doesn't have horn!
No,Ari Albanians has no intention to attack Serbia, we have no reason why – Albania is growing faster than Serbia – and that’s the fear of Serbia.
There is nothing that can scare to us, we touch the ground, we got up, and have one target – while Serbia’s benchmark still is Albania. Oh please keep going – I remember a Churchill saying – If someone attack you it mean that you are going in the right way. No one attack the weaker - I read your lost in every Serbian complaint against us! No one of your politicians bark in vain,for sure they know,they see,every time that Serbia attack us – I know Albania is going in the right way.
You are ALONE honey –and you can’t blame anymore Albanians for your bad relationships with CRO,BIH,MNE,MK.

You are ALONE honey –and you can’t blame anymore Albanians for your bad relationships with CRO,BIH,MNE,MK.
(Joni, 23 May 2017 09:52)

what about the Jocker that they have in their sleeve ?
and by the way do you know what VLADI MIR means ?

and by the way do you know what VLADI MIR means ?
(rote, 23 May 2017 14:06

You mean that short, curly baldhead, which change his girlfriends often?
Ukraina was love at first glance, but it finished badly.
Now how much can last that in distance?
It will finnish that both will betray for someone else - and none of you is a faithful!

@Therret prizren- no, my nerves were surgically removed when I got married, lol (joke).
However, I do follow up on Balkan news every single day and I just don't see investments of the foreign monetary enough to grow an economy 3.5% GDP. Srbija is getting bombarded with foreign investment so I can understand their rate, but "Kosovo"? Aid and Diaspora monies coming in do not go toward self sufficient growth, so a government relies on investment that puts capital return back into the marketplace. This is what I fail to see in "Kosovo"...not because you're not capable, but because you have authorities in place that is useful to the west, that is to maintain order and protect the drug flow, not give the people a better life! You can bitch about BG until you're blue in the face, they can even recognize "Kosovo", it won't make a difference one iota!
Honest opinion!

Therret. Stop it. The stuff your saying is something a paid troll from a albanian or turkish newspaper would say. You are making things up as if your making a drama movie. That war did not start out of no where. Albanians aggressively began to try to expel serbian law enforcement and serbian citizens so that they can steal a country for themselves. THATS FACT. Your people thought they had muscle, then you got rolled on heavily. You were saved by nato from paying the price anybody deserves to pay for the actions your people took. You acted savagely and continue to do so even now. Stop with the lies about your infrstructure, kosovo is wasteland i the hands of albanians. It will continue to be. Want proof, look no further than albania, consistantly the poorest country in europe for decades, until about 45% of the world decided to recognize kosovo, now they own that prize. But hey by all means, dont let something stupid like truth and facts get in the way of your brainwashed comments.

Haha TRUMP ALBANIAN (Prishtina(County of Gollak)

THAT'S WHY IN ER-RIAD HE DANCED THE FAMOUS "ARAB" DANCE WITH THE SABRES ?
BY THE WAY THE DANCE IS CALLED AL-ARDA = ОРДА IN RUSSIAN ...

njegos

Sorry but the west will always be against serbs and serbia. There is nothing you can do about it. As long as Kosovo is liberated from serbia, you are finished. And i enjoy that 200 000 serbs are still crying that they never will return back to Kosovo. And the west still ignores the. HA!

Still not aware of the US promising anyone anything on Kosovo. The only thing I do recall is George Bush's senior Christmas red line warning issued to Sloba in 1992, a warning cited in the New York Times, and even made its way into Tim Judas book, though I think this 'warning' is just a myth
(Nikolle, 23 May 2017 13:28)

You have to remember that Russia views the Balkans as its area of influence.
If I had a dollar for every warning given during the 1990s I would be very rich. I have lost count on the number of warnings given.

@Watcher, Serbia was also just a province of the Ottoman Empire when it got it's independence. I'm sure the Ottomans said the same thing back then.
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This statement takes out 1st prize in stupidity.
Anyone who has the bare minimum of intelligence won't need me to elaborate.

Lets not forget who started the war and who invited it. Albanians were celebrating when the war began as they are the ones who wanted NATO to drop their poison bombs. What did they expect would happen when the gates of hell were opened? They only have themselves to blame for the consequences.

As we can see, this is far from over otherwise we wouldn't have any Albanians here. They would be enjoying their "indipindince" ;-)

BTW 0 x 3.5% = ?

listen so called american soldier - I was in KiM as a KFOR and saw how islamic terror - both psychological and physical - was being applied to indiginous Serb population in their ghettos. and stupid and ignorant US troops very often supported that islamic theocracy- like in Afghanistan in 1970-80ies, the fruits of what they are enjoying now...lol. meanwhile koSSovo wannabe volely-ball team in Estonia http://sport.postimees.ee/4125121/kosovo-oli-nii-nork-et-eestlastel-hakkas-neist-valjakul-kahju
for those who do not bother to use translator..."kosovo was so weak ,that estonians on a court felt sorry for them" ..the only thing KiM albanians are good at is jihad and other crimes....

JUSTIFICATION to do what they need to do for their own interest!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 14:41

LOL, a superpower like Russia where the leaders have no accountability to people does not need any justifications to do what they want for their own interest. Especially they don't depend on what happens in Kosovo for the so-called "protection of Russians in Ukraine". They just say: it is in our interest.

This whole article is the same garbage of "Kosovo independence will cause the end of the world" over and over again.

Haha TRUMP ALBANIAN

@Therret Prizen - "Kosovo" was not ever a country so that it can be liberated! It is a province of Republic of Serbia! You can't just come and forcefully take a piece of someone's country and call it another country and call it "liberation"...Doesn't matter who you are, USA, Russia, Serbia, Albania,etc! Might will never mean right! At the end of the day, God, and only God, will repay!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 22:25)

Watcher,
America was not a country in 1776, yet it was liberated. In Kosova's case it was a revolution, much as in 1776 and we won! To the winner go the spoils. There is not an International Court in the world that would disagree. Get over it and move on instead of whimpering like a little girl.

Ukraina was love at first glance, but it finished badly.
Now how much can last that in distance? It will finnish that both will betray for someone else - and none of you is a faithful! (Joni, 23 May 2017 21:38)

Tactically you can still use the western manthras about our Ukraine but it's already on it's way home. Local KLA type agressive but armed minority still control this provinces but they are in panic already. Because their positions weaken day after day. 80% of population speak and think Russian and many of them are armed too ... Just be patient enough to see what I said. We betray no one after Eltsyn ...

Wow, I must've hit a nerve. When I told you to look at the numbers and weep, I didn't imagine the amount of grief the truth would've caused you, it seems as if your collective brain is about to explode from rage. Talk about sore losers. Numbers don't lie, take your head out of that poisonous well of the nationalism, and see the truth: Kosova's economy is, in fact, growing faster than Serbia's.
During the war, you burned our homes and destroyed our cities: 80% of all the houses in Peja were destroyed or damaged. And this is your legacy as far as we're concerned:
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/kosovo-war-destruction.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Dc9P-W_Yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-Ljc_Rm78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXI5tXtb51I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmR1keQx2Zw

Yet, not only we came back, we rebuilt everything even better and stronger than it was before. We built highways, rebuilt our economy and rebuilt our lives in freedom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63SX3X7jSgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e9dcrRClcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3AFp2MXp-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRmQY3PlDQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mYQwdfMW9U

Yet, you still keep harping your buffoonish Milosevic's slogans, of what you're going to do in 500 years. Dude, in 500 years, me and you and the rest of us will be dirt on the ground. Good luck volunteering humans 500 years into the future to do your bidding.

Professor Klesov about the line (Baltic, Austria, Yugoslavia) where two brotherly Slavic happlogroups (R1a and R1b) met.

See after 32" minute ........ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTLAgzmahyg

+ about the Aryans after 39" minute

Watcher

Of course God repayed all ready Kosovo was part of Albania ,Kosovo is Albanians,now Kosovo is independente state called Republika e Kosoves ,yeah thanks to USA and KLA , You tipical Iranoasian race,Serbs ,you thought only you live in this World.Now you are going to grow old and die ,cry and cry ahh ex pokraina,now Republika e Kosoves its gone,for ever

"Ukraine and Georgia were in danger of joining NATO.." so where does action in former Yugoslav entities come into this?

"...he connection between Russia and Serbia is very deep" what does this even mean? It wasn't so deep that Russia was prepared to risk war for Serbia.
"Those measures set extremely damaging precedents that have returned to plague the West." the writer here talks as if Bosnia & Kosovo were the first post cold war examples of the West intervening in other countries.

"If the US kept its word of not taking into NATO the Baltic countries or areas of Russian influence or taking Kosovo, Ukraine and Georgia would not have happened. "

I am not aware of the US ever promising Russia or for that matter anyone else not to 'take' Kosovo. As for other countries joining NATO, if its their sovereign will to join NATO, why does Russia care? its for them to decide. No one after all is forced to join

Still not aware of the US promising anyone anything on Kosovo. The only thing I do recall is George Bush's senior Christmas red line warning issued to Sloba in 1992, a warning cited in the New York Times, and even made its way into Tim Judas book, though I think this 'warning' is just a myth

"You have to remember that Russia views the Balkans as its area of influence."

So Russia has problems then. Do the Balkans want to be under Russia's sphere of influence? Recent events suggest not. Same for most Eastern European and Central European states

@Peggy "This statement takes out 1st prize in stupidity.
Anyone who has the bare minimum of intelligence won't need me to elaborate."

By all means, please do elaborate and tell us the difference. You were free to make your argument, but the fact that you didn't, means that you are not convinced yourself that there is much difference.

Sara


You are friend with Palestine because you supported them in UN ,two faced Serbia ,Israel knows that very well,Medelein Albright loves Albanians ,she is Israeli Women,You can tell that story only in Teheran ,to your blood brothers Live long USA,Kosova Albania Croatia ,Uk ,Germany France,and all the Western World.....

@sj

So you agree with me, Kosovo has nothing to do with Russia's actions in either Ukraine or Georgia. Remember, the article is insinuating that it was NATO intervention in former Yugoslav entities that poisoned relations between the US and Russia. That hypothesis is total garbage

The world is fast realizing what the west created in Kosovo
(njegos, 22 May 2017 23:53)

Absolutely, since Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it.

Watcher

You will never get Kosova back. Try to understand that instead. We dont like serbs and we hate serbia and its population. Nothing can change that. 111 UN members have recongonized Kosova as an independent state and you have no authority,power, or influnce in OUR country. There is nothing you can do about it and no one cares about how much investments there are in serbia becuase serbia will always reamin one of the poorest countries in europe with terrible living standards. You cant even have any children anymore and the population will shrink every year that passes. Kosova will join Albania and there is nothing you can do about it but watch

@Watcher: reading about investments in the news and having actual investments are too different things. Way too many times governments hype future investments, few of which may come to fruition and even fewer are successful. Case in point the story of NIS/Gazprom in Serbia. Also, Serbian media doesn't report any positive news about Kosova, so how would you know?

It's quite natural that Kosova will have a faster growth than Serbia since it started from a lower point. Apparently, structural bottlenecks have not impeded this growth just yet.


@sj: Most of the rebuilding of private homes, was done with the private money - family members working abroad sending money back home. While EU has made some investments in public works, most of the major infrastructure works has been funded from Kosova's budget.

Stop broadcasting slander about us, if you don't want us to come here and refute it.

Yet, you still keep harping your buffoonish Milosevic's slogans, of what you're going to do in 500 years. Dude, in 500 years, me and you and the rest of us will be dirt on the ground. Good luck volunteering humans 500 years into the future to do your bidding.
(Therret Prizreni, 24 May 2017 09:55)


We are with Albanians of Kosova. I'm glad you posted links to show crimes committed by Serbs. More importantly, these links are a testament to history and a reminder of the inhumanity of the Serbs.

I've been all over Kosova and have not seen evidence of Serbs being mistreated. What I have seen and heard is the outlandish propaganda constantly being spewed by the Serb gov't and media.

I was in KiM as a KFOR and saw how islamic terror - both psychological and physical - was being applied to indiginous Serb population in their ghettos.
(not an american soldier, 26 May 2017 06:52)

Oh really?! So you must have some example where indiginous Serb population was rounded up, Serb man and boys tied up and executed by the thousands, Serb women raped and then forcibly removed from their homes and put on buses and trains with their children and sent to Serbia... Please illuminate us with at least one example of such terror!

@Zoran

So what you're saying is that the world wasn't a "complete mess" before US interventionist policy appeared on the scene?

If it wasn't a complete mess, then what was it? Peaceful and orderly? As in the First and Second Balkan wars? World War I? And then...?

"Kosovo" was not ever a country so that it can be liberated!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 22:25)

Same as Serbia, which was not ever a country before it was liberated. So, it's not clear what your point is!
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It is a province of Republic of Serbia!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 22:25)

Sure, according to Serbia. However according to other 110+ countries, Kosovo is a country after having declared independence in accordance with international law.
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You can't just come and forcefully take a piece of someone's country and call it another country and call it "liberation"...
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 22:25)

Those who declared independence were already Kosovo residents, and they just declared independence without using any force. So, it's not clear what force you're talking about or who came from outside Kosovo to declare independence!
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Doesn't matter who you are, USA, Russia, Serbia, Albania,etc! Might will never mean right!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 22:25)

Of course. That's precisely why Serbia lost Kosovo.

@Watcher, Serbia was also just a province of the Ottoman Empire when it got it's independence. I'm sure the Ottomans said the same thing back then.



"Might will never mean right!"

Is that so? You should've thought about that when you sent in the swat teams in BOVs to the Kosova Assmbly to revoke it's status. Or when you unleashed terror on civilians and forced an exodus of biblical proportions. Or was might was OK when you forced it upon others?



"What the hell is growing at 3.5%? LOL "legends in your own minds"

You're free to check it out for yourself. Compare Kosova's economic growth to Serbia's and weep.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/kosovo/gdp-growth-annual
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/serbia/gdp-growth-annual

You can NEVER be a country until Srbija recognizes you, no matter if EVERY country in the world recognizes you.
(Watcher, 23 May 2017 17:19)

Well, Kosovo is a country for the 110+ countries that do recognise it as a country. I guess those 110+ countries have not read the writings of a certain Watcher on b92.net/eng.

But, yes, you are correct that Kosovo won't be a country for Srbija until Srbija recognises it and vice versa, Srbija won't be a country for Kosovo until Kosovo recognises it.

@Therret Prizren - Whatever you want on your 3.5% GDP as I see I'm just spinning my wheels, no big deal! My point is you can paint it however you want, your "government" is paid and taken care of very well for one purpose...and it's not to make the citizens life easier!!! I'm pretty sure you know that, however, Albanian Pride, which is just as lethal as Serbian Pride, doesn't "allow" us to be fix the problem. We recognize it, but heaven forbid, don't say it!
Sa srecom!

Albanians aggressively began to try to expel serbian law enforcement and serbian citizens so that they can steal a country for themselves. THATS FACT. Your people thought they had muscle, then you got rolled on heavily.
(Ian b, 25 May 2017 06:37)

So, according to you, even Albanian women, children and babies aggressively began to try to expel serbian law enforcement and serbian citizens and so they deserved to "get rolled on heavily" by Serbia's army and MUP which forcibly removed them from their homes, put them on trains and sent them to Macedonia and Albania!!!

Btw, do you have any examples where these Albanians rounded up entire Serb villages or towns in Kosovo, executed all man and boys, and put women and children in buses and sent them to Serbia?

Sorry to disappoint, but it had little to do with what Albanians wanted. It had everything to do with what the US wanted. That was the time it reigned supreme but thankfully those days are over.
(Zoran, 22 May 2017 17:28)

Since the days of US reigning supreme are over and so what US wants is now irrelevant, how comes that Kosovo is still independent from Serbia given that the wishes of Kosovo's residents do not matter?!

Remember, the separatists cannot survive without handouts and even then they still can't help lift their people out of poverty. Political changes combined with Serbia's growing economy will eventually be enough to convince rational ordinary Albanians to accept high autonomy
(Ari Gold, 22 May 2017 16:47)

So Serbia, which can't properly feed even its own children, will increase the taxes for Serbia's poot taxpayers so that it can provide handouts to Kosovo's residents is exchange for Kosovo accepting high autonomy?!!!

BTW 0 x 3.5% = ?
(Zoran, 25 May 2017 10:14)

The result of that math operation is 0. If you had attended at least elementary school you would not ask that question lol

The world is fast realizing what the west created in Kosovo
(njegos, 22 May 2017 23:53)

Absolutely, since Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it.
(icj1, 23 May 2017 15:56)

Translation: when icj1 ... writes "absolutely", it means "absolutely not".
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 May 2017 17:10)

I meant absolutely yes that our dear friend njegos was correct with the writing I quoted from him/her :) If you disagree with njegos, feel free to tell him/her "absolutely not" and sort it out with him/her lol
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From icj: "Absolutely, since Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it."
Yet another uninformed, inaccurate and just plain dumb comment from icj.
(njegos, 24 May 2017 02:03)

Assuming that your friend icj told that to you (since that friend of yours icj did not write anywhere on this webpage), it's great that even a friend of yours told you exactly the same thing that I wrote. While I don't know what was the source of your friend icj, my source was a certain Vladimir Putin, and he is certainly not uninformed, inaccurate and just plain dumb, as you say!

Love it, excellent article and couldn't be more correct, but as usual the albo trolls have to whine and complain. Dont albo's they have their own news sites as they always seem to be on B92's site, perhpas not. Its so good that the good ol west is finally learning that its no longer their way or the highway...Keep in mind what goes around comes around.
(Boz, 22 May 2017 12:05)

The article is only wrong:

1) Serbian army was killing innocent people all over Yugoslavia, and the article only focus on how the USA and EU, and most of the sane world, reacted on that. Cause and effect – very simple

2) This site is in English – hence! And Albanian don’t even Trolle, but you manage to do that on your own site. So freak’n awesome

3) The West and the USA and the rest of the normal world…. We’ll We still have a State Called Kosova, so nobody is “awaking”. Galen Carpenter has always had that viewpoint.

But Hey, you are the troll – who am I too lecture ;)

I read the article and frankly its nonsense. If anyone for a second believes that had NATO not intervened in the entities that made up Yugoslavia, then Russia would not have entered either South Osettia or Crimea, then they are truly deluded.

It's shameful that Serbia 🇷🇸 still don't understand what it done to yougoslavia
Hundreds thousand people died cos of serbian forced milions pupils from ther homes and B92 still defending that serbia has done nothing wrong?!!!!
An apology from serbian gov would be nice

"...writes ted Galen Carpenter..." that's the same guy from Cato Institute whom you have quoted a thousand and one times before. Aren't you supposed to be a news outlet?

"Most interested to know why did Russia enter Ossetia and Abkhazia, and take Crimea then?"

It definitely wasn't because of western intervention in Kosovo

Most interested to know why did Russia enter Ossetia and Abkhazia, and take Crimea then?
(sj, 22 May 2017 11:37)

Illuminates us sj?
For the rampage of Albanians or to US, Russians did that? Hahahaa!
Yes, is easy they killed and burned those who spoke the same language, same religion, centuries-old brotherhood just because somewhere in Balkan happened something !
Oh, c'mon!
Is called NATIONAL INTEREST!
And that national interest today support :
Palestine against Israel!
Russia against Ukraine!
And just if EU and US, will support Russia over Crimea – you know very well that Russia will support Albania over Serbia. I know very well that you know that - that is Serbia's nightmare!
NATIONAL INTEREST – FIRST!

Kosovo is a precedent??

And what about Georgia precedent?
And what about Checenia precedent?
And what about Ukraine precedent?
In which part stand the US and Europe in these cases?

Kosovo is not a Russian interest but Georgia, Checenia, Ukraina were and still are!

"However if Serbia continues to grow its economy at this rate then the separatists will have a weaker hand year by year. Remember, the separatists cannot survive without handouts and even then they still can't help lift their people out of poverty."


You obviously don't know what you are talking about; Your calculations are based on hot air and wishful thinking.

Kosova's economy is growing at 3.5% while Serbia's 2.5%.
Foreign aid makes up only 8% of Kosovo's budget, so much for handouts. I'm pretty sure Serbia receives plenty of foreign aid from EU too, so not much difference there.

No country in history, that was ever liberated, ever went back under the boot of their previous rulers, even if they were faced with extreme hardship. Some things, as Rote says, can not be measured with money. The fact that you somehow hope that Kosova will be the first one to do that - even after the massacres that your government inflicted and for which it not even apologised, just shows the extent of your delusions.

The world is fast realizing what the west created in Kosovo
(njegos, 22 May 2017 23:53)

Absolutely, since Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it.

So weighing this up, Russia recognises South Ossetia and Abkhazia thus preventing Georgia from entering NATO and manages to reclaim Crimea, securing its Black sea fleet base and preventing Ukraine from entering NATO.

In exchange, the US ended up with a crime infested occupied Kosovo and turning the regional power (Serbia) against it, thus preventing Serbia from entering NATO.

What a mess the US and its EU "partners" have created. With the Kosovo precedent, the world is a much less safer place. Now the EU is starting to disintegrate and western unity is starting to divide. Karma...

Love it, excellent article and couldn't be more correct, but as usual the albo trolls have to whine and complain. Dont albo's they have their own news sites as they always seem to be on B92's site, perhpas not. Its so good that the good ol west is finally learning that its no longer their way or the highway...Keep in mind what goes around comes around.

Love it, excellent article and couldn't be more correct, but as usual the albo trolls have to whine and complain. Dont albo's they have their own news sites as they always seem to be on B92's site, perhpas not. Its so good that the good ol west is finally learning that its no longer their way or the highway...Keep in mind what goes around comes around.

Right sj, thank you for the correction! Albania never invaded Kosovo like Russia did in Crimea.
But I meant Albanians in Kosovo over Serbs( and as much as I consider them my people I make no difference).
And the reason?? What about:For the same reason they support themselves in Crimea ?You don’t like it?
And what about because Russia will never give up on Crimea – and Kosovo is the only scenery Russia and Putin has to justify their actions – so soon or latter EU will recognize Crimea like part of Russia – and Russia will recognize Kosovo, for its own interest.
If not tell me has Russia intention to give Crimea back to Ukraine ?
That’s the "point" when Russians and Albanians are in the same side – we don’t need more.
The only thing that Russians tell against Kosovo is that there was not a referendum like it was in Crimea! Are you smart enough to understand – so it mean, that they are OK if there was a referendum? But actually there was a referendum!
You know that – geopolitics must change but the fact not! Kosovo has nothing to do with the EU and US relations with Russia and this is evident. Russia is just trying to profit on its own from Kosovo. Russians declarations over Kosovo time to time are unclear for me, even though the position over it is not changed yet! One side they tell that support Serbia and in other time they tell that Crimea was based on Kosovo scenery!
If you are smart you understand that both can't stand together!
Now take your hope in a lie...

Slowly but surely, the wind is beginning to sail against the separatists in Serbia's southern province. We've seen this already with the U.S. coming out against a 'kosovo army', something they never would have done only 5 years ago. It will take time for the complete change to happen. It will start by pulling back support more and more while still recognizing the land theft. However if Serbia continues to grow its economy at this rate then the separatists will have a weaker hand year by year. Remember, the separatists cannot survive without handouts and even then they still can't help lift their people out of poverty. Political changes combined with Serbia's growing economy will eventually be enough to convince rational ordinary Albanians to accept high autonomy while the heroin/sex slave traffickers and terrorists will get eradicated without NATO intervening to save them again.

njegos

Sorry but the west will always be against serbs and serbia. There is nothing you can do about it. As long as Kosovo is liberated from serbia, you are finished. And i enjoy that 200 000 serbs are still crying that they never will return back to Kosovo. And the west still ignores the. HA!

@Ari
I pitifully you! You have no eyes?
Someone here told to me that my logic is petty,but how could I explain something so petty to someone who see the hair on Albanians eyes but can't see the trunk on their eyes?
Separatists? Mahh.I bet you are talking to those on R.Srps I suppose because Kosovo is a COUNTRY known by 98% of European countries
So explain it with a petty logic because I'm too stupid to understand.
Ha. You tell that the wind is changing? YES! For the first time in your history you are ALONE against Albanians.
Surrounded with countries that don’t support you anymore against Albanians like it happened in WWI.
Have seen, or noticed the Serbian hysteria recently? The fear doesn't have horn!
No,Ari Albanians has no intention to attack Serbia, we have no reason why – Albania is growing faster than Serbia – and that’s the fear of Serbia.
There is nothing that can scare to us, we touch the ground, we got up, and have one target – while Serbia’s benchmark still is Albania. Oh please keep going – I remember a Churchill saying – If someone attack you it mean that you are going in the right way. No one attack the weaker - I read your lost in every Serbian complaint against us! No one of your politicians bark in vain,for sure they know,they see,every time that Serbia attack us – I know Albania is going in the right way.
You are ALONE honey –and you can’t blame anymore Albanians for your bad relationships with CRO,BIH,MNE,MK.

Watcher

You will never get Kosova back. Try to understand that instead. We dont like serbs and we hate serbia and its population. Nothing can change that. 111 UN members have recongonized Kosova as an independent state and you have no authority,power, or influnce in OUR country. There is nothing you can do about it and no one cares about how much investments there are in serbia becuase serbia will always reamin one of the poorest countries in europe with terrible living standards. You cant even have any children anymore and the population will shrink every year that passes. Kosova will join Albania and there is nothing you can do about it but watch

Kosovo was a frozen conflict which you Serbs didn't know how to handled.

A 10 year old knows that if you could give Albanians power they would have been part of Serbia.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 22 May 2017 16:00)
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Sorry to disappoint, but it had little to do with what Albanians wanted. It had everything to do with what the US wanted. That was the time it reigned supreme but thankfully those days are over. It made a complete mess of the world.

Bravo!

And what about Georgia precedent?
And what about Checenia precedent?
And what about Ukraine precedent?
In which part stand the US and Europe in these cases?

Kosovo is not a Russian interest but Georgia, Checenia, Ukraina were and still are! (Joni, 22 May 2017 12:26)

How do you know all that ? We have very big interest in Kosovo and we have nothing to be ashamed of in all those places that you mentioned. Everywhere we've saved and still save our own people.Be it Ossetians or Abkhaz or Chechen or Russian ... Now it's the Serbs' turn.

@joni - I can understand what you're trying to get, however, your logic is pretty petty! Russia can do what it wants and doesn't have to appease, trade or negotiate with anybody, including Srbija! You are pretty vain to think that the west puts that much stock into your "Kosovo" that it would go up against Moscow to appease you;) Remember, there is ALOT of buffer between the "west" and Russia, however, YOU are in their backyard!! Russia can afford not to make deals and theirs nothing anybody can do about it... but Pristina? Better start talking and negotiating, the world is about to get ugly...

JUSTIFICATION to do what they need to do for their own interest!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 14:41

LOL, a superpower like Russia where the leaders have no accountability to people does not need any justifications to do what they want for their own interest. Especially they don't depend on what happens in Kosovo for the so-called "protection of Russians in Ukraine". They just say: it is in our interest.

This whole article is the same garbage of "Kosovo independence will cause the end of the world" over and over again.

And what about Georgia precedent?
And what about Checenia precedent?
And what about Ukraine precedent?


Idiot.

....What a mess the US and its EU "partners" have created. With the Kosovo precedent, the world is a much less safer place. Now the EU is starting to disintegrate and western unity is starting to divide. Karma...
(Zoran, 22 May 2017 10:59)...

Kosovo was a frozen conflict which you Serbs didn't know how to handled.

A 10 year old knows that if you could give Albanians power they would have been part of Serbia.

Look at Greece who gave the power to Albanians,they are doing fine after 180 independence,they even triple their territory.
Do you think that Greeks who used to be educated, were happy to elect an illiterate Albanian such as Kollocotroni as president, along with main ministers?
Of course they were not,but they knew that it was a good investment in the long run.
The same with Turkey and Egypt.

If you would have give Albanians president and ministers internal of defense and some other key ministers,I can assure you that today Kosovo would have been part of Serbia....

But you lose the logic when you talk about Albanians.
Kosovo's independence was as the result of your idiotic approach.

(Joni, 22 May 2017 14:46)

It does not matter if the EU recognizes Crimea being as part of Russia but Russia will not recognize Kosovo's independence because it backs Serbia. Kosovo is insignificant in the scheme of things. To you it might look important but trust me its not.

It's not clear, by the way, what benefits Russia got other than having to pay the pensions of Crimea's pensioners with Russia taxpayers' money lol
(icj1, 22 May 2017 15:26)

WE DON'T COUNT MONEY SOMETIMES ...

Haha TRUMP ALBANIAN (Prishtina(County of Gollak)

THAT'S WHY IN ER-RIAD HE DANCED THE FAMOUS "ARAB" DANCE WITH THE SABRES ?
BY THE WAY THE DANCE IS CALLED AL-ARDA = ОРДА IN RUSSIAN ...

You are ALONE honey –and you can’t blame anymore Albanians for your bad relationships with CRO,BIH,MNE,MK.
(Joni, 23 May 2017 09:52)

what about the Jocker that they have in their sleeve ?
and by the way do you know what VLADI MIR means ?

The culprits, Blair and Clinton, are sitting high and dry. There is no righteousness but for those who taketh.

True words.

Albanians are to the Balkans as the Palestinians are to Israel- making terror and volatile lands.

Watcher

Of course God repayed all ready Kosovo was part of Albania ,Kosovo is Albanians,now Kosovo is independente state called Republika e Kosoves ,yeah thanks to USA and KLA , You tipical Iranoasian race,Serbs ,you thought only you live in this World.Now you are going to grow old and die ,cry and cry ahh ex pokraina,now Republika e Kosoves its gone,for ever

@Therret Prizen - "Kosovo" was not ever a country so that it can be liberated! It is a province of Republic of Serbia! You can't just come and forcefully take a piece of someone's country and call it another country and call it "liberation"...Doesn't matter who you are, USA, Russia, Serbia, Albania,etc! Might will never mean right! At the end of the day, God, and only God, will repay!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 22:25)

Watcher,
America was not a country in 1776, yet it was liberated. In Kosova's case it was a revolution, much as in 1776 and we won! To the winner go the spoils. There is not an International Court in the world that would disagree. Get over it and move on instead of whimpering like a little girl.

I read the article and frankly its nonsense. If anyone for a second believes that had NATO not intervened in the entities that made up Yugoslavia, then Russia would not have entered either South Osettia or Crimea, then they are truly deluded.
(Nikolle, 22 May 2017 11:19)

Most interested to know why did Russia enter Ossetia and Abkhazia, and take Crimea then?

Joni, 22 May 2017 12:22)

I can understand only parts of what you have posted, but why would Russia support Albania over Serbia?

It definitely wasn't because of western intervention in Kosovo
(Nikolle, 22 May 2017 12:39)

I said why did Russia enter Ossetia and Abkhazia, and take Crimea then?"

And as in Kosovo with Albanians, on Crimea the original indigenous population was marginalized and replaced with ethnic Russians before.

But still, only a fool would believe Russia wouldn't have done the same if there wouldn't have been a 'Kosovo precedent case'.
(Comm. Parrisson, 22 May 2017 15:45)

As the Americans used to say in films your theory isn't worth a plug nickle.

Russia would not have done anything if it wasn't for NATO's expansionist agenda. You cannot join NATO if your border is in dispute so how easy was it for Russia to stop Georgia and Ukraine joining?

NATO is the destabilising factor here, not Russia. Once the precedent was set in Kosovo and NATO continued its ambition to expand, they handed over Crimea and potentially the eastern part of Ukraine. So NATO gained an unstable Kosovo (temporarily) but lost Ukraine and Georgia while Russia gets Crimea and secures its black sea fleet.

Looks like Russia is the winner to me. Serbia leans towards Russia, as it always has but is now in a position play with both east and west.

Sara


You are friend with Palestine because you supported them in UN ,two faced Serbia ,Israel knows that very well,Medelein Albright loves Albanians ,she is Israeli Women,You can tell that story only in Teheran ,to your blood brothers Live long USA,Kosova Albania Croatia ,Uk ,Germany France,and all the Western World.....

(Joni, 22 May 2017 14:46)

It does not matter if the EU recognizes Crimea being as part of Russia but Russia will not recognize Kosovo's independence because it backs Serbia. Kosovo is insignificant in the scheme of things. To you it might look important but trust me its not.
(sj, 22 May 2017 16:25)

Kosovo is more important than Serbia to Europe, not because is bigger or stronger or they care more about Albanians..
But because, Kosovo mean stability to Europe – so they care about themselves.
Serbia has shown to be a problematic country, with bad relationships with all her neighbors and with Russia that backs you, as you say – Europe will be against – UK first - you are the only warmongers for EU - and to imagine even Russia behind is a problem for EU.
So if they ever will recognize Crimea and take off the sanctions – they would care about the stability and of course will care to not have Russian influence in their backyard.
So what you want to bet that Russia will recognize Kosovo if EU recognize Crimea?

Albanians are to the Balkans as the Palestinians are to Israel- making terror and volatile lands.
(sara, 22 May 2017 21:38)

Typical a phrase of one invader who came in Balkan making terror and stealing lands! But do you learn you history sara..hhh?

My dear, you are to stupid to understand well what you have wrote – but you must illuminate us and tell why Russia support Palestinian case against Israelians?

And maybe can even illuminate us even more to explain why Serbia voted on favour of Palestinians the last time?

"You have to remember that Russia views the Balkans as its area of influence."

So Russia has problems then. Do the Balkans want to be under Russia's sphere of influence? Recent events suggest not. Same for most Eastern European and Central European states

You can NEVER be a country until Srbija recognizes you, no matter if EVERY country in the world recognizes you.
(Watcher, 23 May 2017 17:19)

Well, Kosovo is a country for the 110+ countries that do recognise it as a country. I guess those 110+ countries have not read the writings of a certain Watcher on b92.net/eng.

But, yes, you are correct that Kosovo won't be a country for Srbija until Srbija recognises it and vice versa, Srbija won't be a country for Kosovo until Kosovo recognises it.

@nikolle- you're right, Moscow probably has no interest in K&M... other than JUSTIFICATION to do what they need to do for their own interest!
That's ALL they needed...and it fell into their lap in a silver platter! And Albanians STILL think the west "CARES" about them and their "cause"!

Internal Russian interest

"And as in Kosovo with Albanians,..." What population was marginalised, replaced, when did this happen and by whom? Do you just make stuff up to look like you have a point or do you write things based on bullshit?

Internal Russian interest
(Nikolle, 22 May 2017 15:19)

Good answer but there is more to it. Russia went into George and Ukraine to stop those countries joining NATO. When the Soviet Union collapsed, the US reached an agreement over several issues with Russia and one being not to take in any of the former Soviet countries into NATO.
The ink was not even dry the Baltic nations were brought into NATO and plans to expand were already in the pipeline. George was next so when the Olympic games were held in Beijing Condalezza Rice flew to Tbilisi and gave the green light to take back Ossetia by force and the rest you know.
Crimea was always Russian but its strategic importance can never be underestimated. The British fought the Russians for Crimea over 150 years ago. If NATO established a base there it would be a major threat to Russia and a step to China’s back door. That’s why China is in with Russia against the US.

(Reader, 22 May 2017 15:52)

Here is the conundrum. Russia has no accountability to the people, but where is that accountability you talk about in the US? Did the people sanction the loss of 10,000 US troops in Iraq? Did that same accountability kick into action before arming and training even ISL in Syria?
No its called US interests.
There is only a myth called accountability. They give people the illusion of having control but in reality there is none.

@Zoran

So what you're saying is that the world wasn't a "complete mess" before US interventionist policy appeared on the scene?

If it wasn't a complete mess, then what was it? Peaceful and orderly? As in the First and Second Balkan wars? World War I? And then...?

Sorry to disappoint, but it had little to do with what Albanians wanted. It had everything to do with what the US wanted. That was the time it reigned supreme but thankfully those days are over.
(Zoran, 22 May 2017 17:28)

Since the days of US reigning supreme are over and so what US wants is now irrelevant, how comes that Kosovo is still independent from Serbia given that the wishes of Kosovo's residents do not matter?!

(Joni, 23 May 2017 09:36)

Let’s get this straight, the west does not care about Albanians. If they did they would have done something about that depleted uranium they dropped in 1999. Its still there and its causing cancers such as leukemia.
I hate to burst your bubble but western sanctions against Russia are not hurting Russia at all. If you want to hurt Russia the west should disconnect Moscow from the international bank code system, but the big bankers said No.
Moscow does not care whether the EU or US or the Martians don’t recognise Crimea. Its already part of and functioning within the Russia economy just like Ossetia and Abkhazia in Georgia.
Kosovo is nothing to them at all. You people overestimate your importance. Let’s see who or what is more important to the EU? Russian energy or Albanians?
If Milosevic allowed the US to have a military base in Serbia the US would have ignored the Albanians completely.

@sj

So you agree with me, Kosovo has nothing to do with Russia's actions in either Ukraine or Georgia. Remember, the article is insinuating that it was NATO intervention in former Yugoslav entities that poisoned relations between the US and Russia. That hypothesis is total garbage

and by the way do you know what VLADI MIR means ?
(rote, 23 May 2017 14:06

You mean that short, curly baldhead, which change his girlfriends often?
Ukraina was love at first glance, but it finished badly.
Now how much can last that in distance?
It will finnish that both will betray for someone else - and none of you is a faithful!

@Watcher: reading about investments in the news and having actual investments are too different things. Way too many times governments hype future investments, few of which may come to fruition and even fewer are successful. Case in point the story of NIS/Gazprom in Serbia. Also, Serbian media doesn't report any positive news about Kosova, so how would you know?

It's quite natural that Kosova will have a faster growth than Serbia since it started from a lower point. Apparently, structural bottlenecks have not impeded this growth just yet.


@sj: Most of the rebuilding of private homes, was done with the private money - family members working abroad sending money back home. While EU has made some investments in public works, most of the major infrastructure works has been funded from Kosova's budget.

Stop broadcasting slander about us, if you don't want us to come here and refute it.

Moscow probably has no interest in K&M... other than JUSTIFICATION to do what they need to do for their own interest!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 14:41)

Sure, thus validating Kosovo's position and undermining Serbia's "principled" position about Kosovo lol

@Watcher

I don't think the West cares for Albanians anymore than they care for Serbs

Most interested to know why did Russia enter Ossetia and Abkhazia, and take Crimea then?
(sj, 22 May 2017 11:37)

It's simply because the wanted to support the violent ethnic Russian minority in these regions who wanted to secede, against the will of the sovereign states these regions belong to. Of course it's similar to Kosovo, where the violent Albanian ethnic minority was behaving similar.

And as in Kosovo with Albanians, on Crimea the original indigenous population was marginalized and replaced with ethnic Russians before.

But still, only a fool would believe Russia wouldn't have done the same if there wouldn't have been a 'Kosovo precedent case'.

Professor Klesov about the line (Baltic, Austria, Yugoslavia) where two brotherly Slavic happlogroups (R1a and R1b) met.

See after 32" minute ........ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTLAgzmahyg

+ about the Aryans after 39" minute

@Therrit Prizren - What the hell is growing at 3.5%? LOL "legends in your own minds"

@Therret Prizen - "Kosovo" was not ever a country so that it can be liberated! It is a province of Republic of Serbia! You can't just come and forcefully take a piece of someone's country and call it another country and call it "liberation"...Doesn't matter who you are, USA, Russia, Serbia, Albania,etc! Might will never mean right! At the end of the day, God, and only God, will repay!

Remember, the separatists cannot survive without handouts and even then they still can't help lift their people out of poverty. Political changes combined with Serbia's growing economy will eventually be enough to convince rational ordinary Albanians to accept high autonomy
(Ari Gold, 22 May 2017 16:47)

So Serbia, which can't properly feed even its own children, will increase the taxes for Serbia's poot taxpayers so that it can provide handouts to Kosovo's residents is exchange for Kosovo accepting high autonomy?!!!

@ Alb retorts- Holy Cow...;) It's easier talking logic with my 10 yr old than with Albanian trolls on this site! Your "friends" are pissing on you and telling you it's "just rain", and you call it 3.5% GDP growth:) The young are looking to escape "Kosovo" and you call it "the Young Democracy" and Paradise:)You steal another country's piece of land and call it a "country":) Here's the problem, brilliant ones...You can NEVER be a country until Srbija recognizes you, no matter if EVERY country in the world recognizes you. NO ONE will invest in you! No One!! And Srbija will wait another 500 yrs to fix this injustice if it has too...but it will fix it! You're just not smart enough to sit at the table with Vucic and hammer out and agreement that works...whatever that is! This becomes extremely dangerous for youth in "Kosovo"...THAT is why they are looking to get the hell of of there.....3.5% Growth Rate LOL...why would the young look to leave with that kind of growth?? Even my Alb friends here at work laugh!

Ukraina was love at first glance, but it finished badly.
Now how much can last that in distance? It will finnish that both will betray for someone else - and none of you is a faithful! (Joni, 23 May 2017 21:38)

Tactically you can still use the western manthras about our Ukraine but it's already on it's way home. Local KLA type agressive but armed minority still control this provinces but they are in panic already. Because their positions weaken day after day. 80% of population speak and think Russian and many of them are armed too ... Just be patient enough to see what I said. We betray no one after Eltsyn ...

I've been all over Kosova and have not seen evidence of Serbs being mistreated. What I have seen and heard is the outlandish propaganda constantly being spewed by the Serb gov't and media.

The world is fast realizing what the west created in Kosovo
(njegos, 22 May 2017 23:53)

Absolutely, since Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it.
(icj1, 23 May 2017 15:56)

Translation: when icj1 ... writes "absolutely", it means "absolutely not".
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 May 2017 17:10)

I meant absolutely yes that our dear friend njegos was correct with the writing I quoted from him/her :) If you disagree with njegos, feel free to tell him/her "absolutely not" and sort it out with him/her lol
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From icj: "Absolutely, since Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it."
Yet another uninformed, inaccurate and just plain dumb comment from icj.
(njegos, 24 May 2017 02:03)

Assuming that your friend icj told that to you (since that friend of yours icj did not write anywhere on this webpage), it's great that even a friend of yours told you exactly the same thing that I wrote. While I don't know what was the source of your friend icj, my source was a certain Vladimir Putin, and he is certainly not uninformed, inaccurate and just plain dumb, as you say!

So weighing this up, Russia recognises South Ossetia and Abkhazia thus preventing Georgia from entering NATO and manages to reclaim Crimea
(Zoran, 22 May 2017 10:59)

As if Russia would not have done the above, anyway... Russia guaranteed the territorial integrity of Ukraine and still that did not prevent Russia from dismembering Ukraine!

It's not clear, by the way, what benefits Russia got other than having to pay the pensions of Crimea's pensioners with Russia taxpayers' money lol

I think it's fair enough to say that neither Russia, nor the United States, give one fig about Albanians, Ossetians, Abkhazis, Serbs, Georgians, or Ukrainians. The precedent was certainly set with Washington's arrogant stance on Kosovo, but let's be honest: Washington's biggest cheering section came from Moscow, seeing has how it now got a green light to engage in its own Realpolitik.

Haha TRUMP ALBANIAN

@Watcher, Serbia was also just a province of the Ottoman Empire when it got it's independence. I'm sure the Ottomans said the same thing back then.



"Might will never mean right!"

Is that so? You should've thought about that when you sent in the swat teams in BOVs to the Kosova Assmbly to revoke it's status. Or when you unleashed terror on civilians and forced an exodus of biblical proportions. Or was might was OK when you forced it upon others?



"What the hell is growing at 3.5%? LOL "legends in your own minds"

You're free to check it out for yourself. Compare Kosova's economic growth to Serbia's and weep.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/kosovo/gdp-growth-annual
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/serbia/gdp-growth-annual

"Ukraine and Georgia were in danger of joining NATO.." so where does action in former Yugoslav entities come into this?

"...he connection between Russia and Serbia is very deep" what does this even mean? It wasn't so deep that Russia was prepared to risk war for Serbia.
"Those measures set extremely damaging precedents that have returned to plague the West." the writer here talks as if Bosnia & Kosovo were the first post cold war examples of the West intervening in other countries.

"If the US kept its word of not taking into NATO the Baltic countries or areas of Russian influence or taking Kosovo, Ukraine and Georgia would not have happened. "

I am not aware of the US ever promising Russia or for that matter anyone else not to 'take' Kosovo. As for other countries joining NATO, if its their sovereign will to join NATO, why does Russia care? its for them to decide. No one after all is forced to join

Stupid people, look at another proof of why America took Kosovo. Why don't they leave? Pack up and go!! Now Trump is CONTINUING THE DANCE with the Saudis - Saudi who is giving money to Kosovo to promote Islam and terrorism. Saudi where terrorism was BORN. Who gives them this money? America!! While Iran, terrorists are hung so fast that you don't get a chance to even hear about it. It's all about OIL and MONEY.

Its crazy how much albanians get drunk on their own koolaid. Kosovo is a wasteland now. You have no economy. Your heroine producers, cant trade that on the free market, oly the black market. Serbia is by no means an economic powerhouse compared to alot of european countries, but compared to albania and kosovo its 100 years ahead. Tell me what factories are in kosovo? What does kosovo produce? I rest my case. To the peraon saying serbia doesnt want russian influence, what are you smoking? Seebia has always and will always want it. Its a very unique relationship. The ties between the people are basically unbreakable.

It's shameful that Serbia 🇷🇸 still don't understand what it done to yougoslavia
Hundreds thousand people died cos of serbian forced milions pupils from ther homes and B92 still defending that serbia has done nothing wrong?!!!!
An apology from serbian gov would be nice
(Kosta, 23 May 2017 14:49) # Comment link

Yet another person speaking fiction as if it were fact. How many croatians, and bosnians were expelled from serbia? How many from krajna alone, hundreds of thousands. Croatians and bosnian muslims wanted a fight. They were funded by the west to do so. The problem was the serbian army was much stronger so in the end the west had to step in militarily. They were stronger than serbia. Dont act like bosnian muslims and croatians were victims. The did exactly what they intended. The west was out to eliminate serbias influence and power in the region. The only way to do that is to destroy yugoslavia and bring in the national endowment for democracy who then shaped the new territories and new governments of bosnia and croatia. If anybody should be apologizing it would be croatia for killing hundreds of thousands in their ww2 concentration camp, jasenovac, that to this day they wont even admit existed.

Wow, I must've hit a nerve. When I told you to look at the numbers and weep, I didn't imagine the amount of grief the truth would've caused you, it seems as if your collective brain is about to explode from rage. Talk about sore losers. Numbers don't lie, take your head out of that poisonous well of the nationalism, and see the truth: Kosova's economy is, in fact, growing faster than Serbia's.
During the war, you burned our homes and destroyed our cities: 80% of all the houses in Peja were destroyed or damaged. And this is your legacy as far as we're concerned:
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/kosovo-war-destruction.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Dc9P-W_Yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-Ljc_Rm78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXI5tXtb51I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmR1keQx2Zw

Yet, not only we came back, we rebuilt everything even better and stronger than it was before. We built highways, rebuilt our economy and rebuilt our lives in freedom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63SX3X7jSgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e9dcrRClcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3AFp2MXp-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRmQY3PlDQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mYQwdfMW9U

Yet, you still keep harping your buffoonish Milosevic's slogans, of what you're going to do in 500 years. Dude, in 500 years, me and you and the rest of us will be dirt on the ground. Good luck volunteering humans 500 years into the future to do your bidding.

@Peggy "This statement takes out 1st prize in stupidity.
Anyone who has the bare minimum of intelligence won't need me to elaborate."

By all means, please do elaborate and tell us the difference. You were free to make your argument, but the fact that you didn't, means that you are not convinced yourself that there is much difference.

Yet, you still keep harping your buffoonish Milosevic's slogans, of what you're going to do in 500 years. Dude, in 500 years, me and you and the rest of us will be dirt on the ground. Good luck volunteering humans 500 years into the future to do your bidding.
(Therret Prizreni, 24 May 2017 09:55)


We are with Albanians of Kosova. I'm glad you posted links to show crimes committed by Serbs. More importantly, these links are a testament to history and a reminder of the inhumanity of the Serbs.

BTW 0 x 3.5% = ?
(Zoran, 25 May 2017 10:14)

The result of that math operation is 0. If you had attended at least elementary school you would not ask that question lol

Albanians aggressively began to try to expel serbian law enforcement and serbian citizens so that they can steal a country for themselves. THATS FACT. Your people thought they had muscle, then you got rolled on heavily.
(Ian b, 25 May 2017 06:37)

So, according to you, even Albanian women, children and babies aggressively began to try to expel serbian law enforcement and serbian citizens and so they deserved to "get rolled on heavily" by Serbia's army and MUP which forcibly removed them from their homes, put them on trains and sent them to Macedonia and Albania!!!

Btw, do you have any examples where these Albanians rounded up entire Serb villages or towns in Kosovo, executed all man and boys, and put women and children in buses and sent them to Serbia?

@theodore Muzica- you're mistaken badly, and I'm pretty sure you know it;)
Milosevic was handling it pretty much like any other leader of a sovereign country would with internal terrorists killing policemen and looking to steal land.... but he was stopped! Not by the internal terrorists, but by Powers of the west who bred, armed and ultimately came to fight for them!
You know it and now the world is slowly, but surely finding out the truth and exposing it!

"Kosovo" was not ever a country so that it can be liberated!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 22:25)

Same as Serbia, which was not ever a country before it was liberated. So, it's not clear what your point is!
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It is a province of Republic of Serbia!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 22:25)

Sure, according to Serbia. However according to other 110+ countries, Kosovo is a country after having declared independence in accordance with international law.
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You can't just come and forcefully take a piece of someone's country and call it another country and call it "liberation"...
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 22:25)

Those who declared independence were already Kosovo residents, and they just declared independence without using any force. So, it's not clear what force you're talking about or who came from outside Kosovo to declare independence!
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Doesn't matter who you are, USA, Russia, Serbia, Albania,etc! Might will never mean right!
(Watcher, 22 May 2017 22:25)

Of course. That's precisely why Serbia lost Kosovo.

you obviously don't know what you are talking about; Your calculations are based on hot air and wishful thinking.
Kosova's economy is growing at 3.5% while Serbia's 2.5%.
(Therret Prizreni, 22 May 2017 18:44

Are you kidding me, you actually think that Kosovo's economy is comparable to Serbia's? GDP per capital is half of Serbia, unemployment rate is 35% , no industry other than trying to Steal Trepca's mine. Kosovo was a drain as part of Yugoslavia with Albanian Communists leading and now it's a drain of the EU with Albanian terrorists leading.

What needs to happen is USA out of Kosovo. Illegal Albanians out of Kosovo back to Albania or Macedonia, etc or those thousands can apply for Serbian citizenship.

@Therret Prizren - Whatever you want on your 3.5% GDP as I see I'm just spinning my wheels, no big deal! My point is you can paint it however you want, your "government" is paid and taken care of very well for one purpose...and it's not to make the citizens life easier!!! I'm pretty sure you know that, however, Albanian Pride, which is just as lethal as Serbian Pride, doesn't "allow" us to be fix the problem. We recognize it, but heaven forbid, don't say it!
Sa srecom!

I was in KiM as a KFOR and saw how islamic terror - both psychological and physical - was being applied to indiginous Serb population in their ghettos.
(not an american soldier, 26 May 2017 06:52)

Oh really?! So you must have some example where indiginous Serb population was rounded up, Serb man and boys tied up and executed by the thousands, Serb women raped and then forcibly removed from their homes and put on buses and trains with their children and sent to Serbia... Please illuminate us with at least one example of such terror!

(Therret Prizreni, 22 May 2017 18:44)

I am very interested to know just what does Kosovo produce to have growth rates of 3.5%?
You actually believe this nonsense that the Kosovo economy is stronger than Serbia.
There is no industry/manufacturing in Kosovo and the only two areas of employment are government which is paid for by aid from the EU and service industry such as restaurants, stores and some small businesses, but this is small fry. The only reason unemployment has fallen from the official 45% is because people are leaving Kosovo.
If foreign aid is only 8% of Kosovo’s budget then where does the rest come from? Kosovo does not somehow magically fills its budget from its so called economy. These Kosovo growth figures which are quoted often are as dubious as the US level of unemployment of 4.4% and even Donald Trump laughs at that one.
The EU use a very old trick where it masks aid by calling them programs.
Go to Kosovo and see for yourself. I have been there and I saw nothing of what you talk about here. All I saw was young people wanting to leave.

(Nikolle, 23 May 2017 10:50)

NATO intervention did poison relations with Russia since it took action in Yugoslavia because the connection between Russia and Serbia is very deep. In fact Russia entered WW1 because of Serbia.
After the Soviet Union fell polls in Russia indicated that the people actually liked and trusted the Americans. Once military action took place in the Balkans that soured badly and today they don’t trust the US at all. Ukraine and Georgia were in danger of joining NATO so Russia annexed parts of Georgia and Ukraine using the same exact excuse of “special case” the US used when it took over Kosovo.
“Those measures set extremely damaging precedents that have returned to plague the West. “
“….the actions of the United States and its NATO allies in Kosovo further poisoned relations with Russia. In every respect, the U.S.-led Kosovo mission was unwise and counterproductive.”
If you think the US went into Kosovo to save the Albanians, then think again because they only went in there to establish a military base.
If the US kept its word of not taking into NATO the Baltic countries or areas of Russian influence or taking Kosovo, Ukraine and Georgia would not have happened. The hypothesis is correct.

Still not aware of the US promising anyone anything on Kosovo. The only thing I do recall is George Bush's senior Christmas red line warning issued to Sloba in 1992, a warning cited in the New York Times, and even made its way into Tim Judas book, though I think this 'warning' is just a myth

From icj: "Absolutely, since Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it."

Hmmm, Last I checked Russia, China (two of the world's most heavily populated countries) along with Serbia, Indonesia, Slovakia, Cyprus, Romania, just to name a some who still haven't recognized Kosovo's independence. Yet another uninformed, inaccurate and just plain dumb comment from icj. Once again icj, you're letting your hatred of the Serbs consume you. It's turned you into a liar. Or were you always a liar? LOL!!

Oh, and let us not forget Spain also icj. The whole world? I think not!!

Absolutely, since Kosovo declared independence and the whole world accepted it.

(icj1, 23 May 2017 15:56)

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Translation: when icj1, the CB of B92, writes "absolutely", it means "absolutely not".

KiM remains a fenced-in ghetto and, according to UNSCR 1244, an integral part of Serbia.

This is the same icj1 who posts lies that a commonly recognized GDP term is a"nonsensical concept" and "weird thing". Logic to our resident bigot, icj1, has them associating a neurological disorder with ethnicity. icj1 (il)logic has them apologizing for Ante Pavelic and his beloved Ustashe.
icj1 is the only despicable commentator on this site who celebrates crimes against religious institutions with happy face emoticons.

Idiocy, intolerance and ignorance continue to define icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot



I've been all over Kosova and have not seen evidence of Serbs being mistreated. What I have seen and heard is the outlandish propaganda constantly being spewed by the Serb gov't and media.
(American Soldier, 25 May 2017 00:30)

LOLOLOL. This is really hilarious. First your name, LOL. AS usual another lie. Second there is evidence all over the place, you must have the vision of stevie wonder. What a joke. If only people had as low of an iq as you, they might believe what you said.

listen so called american soldier - I was in KiM as a KFOR and saw how islamic terror - both psychological and physical - was being applied to indiginous Serb population in their ghettos. and stupid and ignorant US troops very often supported that islamic theocracy- like in Afghanistan in 1970-80ies, the fruits of what they are enjoying now...lol. meanwhile koSSovo wannabe volely-ball team in Estonia http://sport.postimees.ee/4125121/kosovo-oli-nii-nork-et-eestlastel-hakkas-neist-valjakul-kahju
for those who do not bother to use translator..."kosovo was so weak ,that estonians on a court felt sorry for them" ..the only thing KiM albanians are good at is jihad and other crimes....

The article is very accurate, however, it fails to mention that NATO violated international law by not seeking and thereby receiving a UN Security Council Resolution before bombing Serbia, which is required by member states of the UN as stated in the UN Charter. Madeleine Albright, then Secretary of State, admitted that international law was broken, but no consequences were ever paid by the NATO countries. Such is life when you are a super power, but the tide is changing. The world is fast realizing what the west created in Kosovo and their willingness to defend a narco criminal state is long gone. Time is running out for the Kosovo Albanians and Vicic is playing a shrewd political game by attracting western sympathy and investment every day.

Still not aware of the US promising anyone anything on Kosovo. The only thing I do recall is George Bush's senior Christmas red line warning issued to Sloba in 1992, a warning cited in the New York Times, and even made its way into Tim Judas book, though I think this 'warning' is just a myth
(Nikolle, 23 May 2017 13:28)

You have to remember that Russia views the Balkans as its area of influence.
If I had a dollar for every warning given during the 1990s I would be very rich. I have lost count on the number of warnings given.

@Watcher, Serbia was also just a province of the Ottoman Empire when it got it's independence. I'm sure the Ottomans said the same thing back then.
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This statement takes out 1st prize in stupidity.
Anyone who has the bare minimum of intelligence won't need me to elaborate.

@Therret prizren- no, my nerves were surgically removed when I got married, lol (joke).
However, I do follow up on Balkan news every single day and I just don't see investments of the foreign monetary enough to grow an economy 3.5% GDP. Srbija is getting bombarded with foreign investment so I can understand their rate, but "Kosovo"? Aid and Diaspora monies coming in do not go toward self sufficient growth, so a government relies on investment that puts capital return back into the marketplace. This is what I fail to see in "Kosovo"...not because you're not capable, but because you have authorities in place that is useful to the west, that is to maintain order and protect the drug flow, not give the people a better life! You can bitch about BG until you're blue in the face, they can even recognize "Kosovo", it won't make a difference one iota!
Honest opinion!

Therret. Stop it. The stuff your saying is something a paid troll from a albanian or turkish newspaper would say. You are making things up as if your making a drama movie. That war did not start out of no where. Albanians aggressively began to try to expel serbian law enforcement and serbian citizens so that they can steal a country for themselves. THATS FACT. Your people thought they had muscle, then you got rolled on heavily. You were saved by nato from paying the price anybody deserves to pay for the actions your people took. You acted savagely and continue to do so even now. Stop with the lies about your infrstructure, kosovo is wasteland i the hands of albanians. It will continue to be. Want proof, look no further than albania, consistantly the poorest country in europe for decades, until about 45% of the world decided to recognize kosovo, now they own that prize. But hey by all means, dont let something stupid like truth and facts get in the way of your brainwashed comments.

am not aware of the US ever promising Russia or for that matter anyone else not to 'take' Kosovo. As for other countries joining NATO, if its their sovereign will to join NATO, why does Russia care? its for them to decide. No one after all is forced to join
(Nikolle, 23 May 2017 12:32)

I don't know what you are are or not aware of, but after the fall of the Soviet Union the US did give guarantees to Russia. Your naivety is surprising to make a claim as a nations sovereign will to join NATO. If sovereign will is the question I cant recall any nation holding a plebiscite to join.

NATO's original mission no longer exists now its purpose is to encircle Russia then regime change so that democracy and freedom rules and then take over the gas, oil and minerals or as Madeline Albright once said its too much natural wealth for just once country. Once Russia is taken next is China. The US wants to rule the earth Nikki.

Yet, you still keep harping your buffoonish Milosevic's slogans, of what you're going to do in 500 years. Dude, in 500 years, me and you and the rest of us will be dirt on the ground. Good luck volunteering humans 500 years into the future to do your bidding.
(Therret Prizreni, 24 May 2017 09:55)

There is a very strong dosconnect between reality and fantasy with people like you. Albanians rebuilt nothing. It was with EU funds and material. However, one part that has me wondering, since you have done all you claim why do you guys bother posting on a Serbian-based media site? Surely being so capable you would have your own media sites but you waste time here trying to convince to Serbs? or actually convince yourselves?

Lets just agree to this
The US, Russia and China all have set precedents together
and the most recent is Macedonia

Lets not forget who started the war and who invited it. Albanians were celebrating when the war began as they are the ones who wanted NATO to drop their poison bombs. What did they expect would happen when the gates of hell were opened? They only have themselves to blame for the consequences.

As we can see, this is far from over otherwise we wouldn't have any Albanians here. They would be enjoying their "indipindince" ;-)

BTW 0 x 3.5% = ?