Turkish president invited to visit Serbia

And then Serbs accuse Albanians as Ottomans` allies.
Well, since Sultan Mehmed II was half-Serbian you can`t deny Turkish-Serbian blood relation. Blood is thicker than water.

There was an article few days ago saying "calls for greater Albania" came from Turkey...now this :)

He's just coming to work out how to take over the Sandzak for his Ottoman empire part 2. Vucic should lock him up for the good of mankind.

Serbistan will rise again under Erdogan.

He's just coming to work out how to take over the Sandzak for his Ottoman empire part 2.
(Andy UK,

There is no doubt that the re-capture of former Ottoman lands was the ultimate goal of Erdojan and his former prime minister Davutoglou.In a speech in Sarajevo in October 2009, he,said:
"As in the 16th century, when the Ottoman Balkans were rising, we will once again join the Balkans, the Caucasus and the Middle East, together with Turkey, the centre of world politics in the future. That is the goal of the Turkish foreign policy, and we will achieve it.
Whatever we lost between 1911 and 1923, whatever lands we withdrew from, from 2011 to 2023 we shall once again meet our brothers in those lands".
Davutoglou is history now-some reports even suggest he is under house arrest as it's former president Gul- and my feeling is that Erdogan not only he's not going to get any of the former Ottoman lands but he's going to lose the one's he's got.Which ever way one looks Erdogan will be assigned into the history's dustbin sooner rather than later.

Erdogan also set that Kosovo is Turkey , now let's see if vucic has the balls to confirm him, if not then he is a pussy , witch we already know

I get annoyed when Albanian leaders meet with these barbaric Turks, now even Serbia's getting friendly with them. When will these Turks leave us alone, they took millions of our people and Turkified them and now they want to come back for more. Turkey has nothing to offer us it's time we shut the door and told them to p!$$ off.

It just incredible how the Albos have gone in reverse gear since Erdogan turned on the west LOL. The Albanian tank has one forward gear and 6 in reverse.
Late last year when the Turks shot down the Russian jet our little Albos were jumping for joy and it was their Erdogan, but today they claim since “Sultan Mehmed II was half-Serbian .. ..” Blood is thicker than water. The fact is there is no proof that Mehmet’s mother was Serbian, Italian, French, Greek or even Chinese since all they know about her is that she was a slave.
I truly love how they go to great lengths to distance themselves from their true Muslim heritage LOL.
That’s why the west treats them like scrapings off the bottom of a boot, and who could blame them?
Erdogan is in Serbia only looking for new allies since he pissed on Washington et al early this year. Plus Turkish entrepreneurs invest in Serbia not Kosova LOL. So much for Kosovo is Turkey.

What was done was done. Turkey may have taken our people but those people are today Turks not Serbs.

Same with Albanians who kidnapped Serbians. They are today Albanian not Serbian.

The difference is that my reference “The fact is there is no proof that Mehmet’s mother was Serbian, Italian, French, Greek or even Chinese since all they know about her is that she was a slave. “ is actually out of a history book not something I made up.

Please come home daddy

We don`t know either if Scanderbeg`s mother was Albanian, Serbian or Chinese. All we know is that his father was Albanian. But that doesn`t stop Serbs to call him Serbian or Greeks to call him Greek.

How it feels when the others use your methods and your standards about history?

We don`t know either if Scanderbeg`s mother was Albanian, Serbian or Chinese. All we know is that his father was Albanian. But that doesn`t stop Serbs to call him Serbian or Greeks to call him Greek.

How it feels when the others use your methods and your standards about history? (Free, 2 May 2017 12:22)

If he were for real he could be only a Slav. At least his both parents, his wife and his 9 children and himself - all had Slavic names. Besides in mediaeval times even birds were flying if they had a licence written in Slovenski - the official language of the Great Horde. To say nothing that Georgy was the Rus name of HAN OF THE HANS aka Gengis Khan while original Albanians/Beli were from n-w Rus lands including Bela Rus ... Please anybody gimme a single proof the Alexandar Bek has anything to do with the Sgqiptares !

sj : there is no proof that Mehmet’s mother was Serbian, Italian, French, Greek or even Chinese since all they know about her is that she was a slave.

Chapter 11 The identity of Tamerlane (Timur), the famous conqueror

1. Introduction
2. The physical appearance of Timur reconstructed by Gerasimov from the skull found in his grave. Could Timur have been European?
3. Arabian names in Russian history
4. Temir (Tamerlane) and Mehmet (Mohammed) II
5. Temir = Tamerlane = Mohammed II as the prototype of Alexander the Great
6. The history of Alexander's campaigns: the time and the purpose of its creation
7. Tamerlane and Alexis Comnenus
8. The meaning of the name Timur
9. The wars between Timur and Tokhtamysh
10. The cities of Samara and Samarqand
11. The Nogai Hord
12. The Goths and the Semirechye region
13. Events of the epoch of Mehmet II (the XV century) reflected in the biography of Tamerlane (the XIV century)
13.1. Mehmet = Mohammed II
13.2. The city of Samarqand, the capital of Timur, as described in the chronicles that relate the XV century events, and its true identity
13.3. Sultan Mehmet-Khan identified as Sultan Mehmet II.Who could have taken Bayazid captive?
14. The organisation of Timur's army. Had his Horde really been "wild"?
15. The issue of Tamerlane's religion
16. The burial of Timur
17. The customs of Timur's court
18. Tamerlane and Ivan III
19. Conclusion

http://chronologia.org/en/seven/chronology4.html

sj

The eclectic personality of Temir = Mehmet (Mahomet or Mohammed) II had served as the prototype for the famous biography of the “ancient” Alexander the Great

Alexander the Great is a reflection of the Ottoman ruler Mohammed II the Conqueror and the nearest Ottoman sultans, his heirs of the XV-XVI century a.d. – Suleiman the Magnificent for the most part (1522-1566)

one of the primary sources for Timur’s biography is known as the “Anonymous Tale of Iskander”, or the “Anonymous Tale of Alexander” ([829], page 9). Let us remind the reader that the Oriental name of Alexander the Great had been Iskander the Bicorn. The latter is most likely to be a direct reference to the Ottoman crescent

the mediaeval novels about the campaigns of Alexander the Great became widely known in the XV century, or the epoch of Mehmet (Mohammed) II.

It is a known fact that detailed descriptions of Alexander’s conquests only appeared in the West at the end of the XV century, after the fall of Constantinople, presumably translated from Greek. The circumstances of their appearance explain the fact that the biography of “Alexander of Macedon” was compiled from the biographies of Mehmet II and even Suleiman the Magnificent. One of the translators had been the famous Cardinal Bessarion, who had fled from Byzantium to Italy after the conquest of Constantinople by Mohammed II in 1453. Bessarion had also brought Ptolemy’s Almagest to the West.

http://chronologia.org/en/seven/4N11-EN.pdf

sj

Let us remind the reader that there had been two political parties in Constantinople before the Ottoman = Ataman conquest of 1453 – the Turkish and the Latin. The former had won; Bessarion had belonged to the Latin party and sought revenge ([455]). It turns out that he and his allies had urged the European rulers to wage war against the Turks “comparing the Turks to the ancient Persians and the Macedonian barbarians” ([1374], page 65). The Ottomans = Atamans of the XV century are most likely to identify as the “ancient” Macedonians; by the way, their army set forth towards Constantinople from the Balkan peninsula, which is where we find Macedonia. By the way, we find the Albanian town of Tirana nearby; its name sounds very much like “the city of Tiras”, or “the city of the Turks”

There is a copy of a book by Bessarion in existence – presumably a Latin translation of a Greek work by Demosthenes. It tells us about the campaigns of Alexander the Great, among other things. In the margins of the book we find notes made by Bessarion in red ink, where he points out the “obvious parallels” between the “ancient” wars of Alexander and the XV century campaigns of the Ottomans (see fig. 11.2) ... The book of Demosthenes with Bessarion’s commentaries is still kept in the archives of the Vatican library (see [1374], page 65).

http://chronologia.org/en/seven/4N11-EN.pdf

He's just coming to work out how to take over the Sandzak for his Ottoman empire part 2. Vucic should lock him up for the good of mankind.

He's just coming to work out how to take over the Sandzak for his Ottoman empire part 2.
(Andy UK,

There is no doubt that the re-capture of former Ottoman lands was the ultimate goal of Erdojan and his former prime minister Davutoglou.In a speech in Sarajevo in October 2009, he,said:
"As in the 16th century, when the Ottoman Balkans were rising, we will once again join the Balkans, the Caucasus and the Middle East, together with Turkey, the centre of world politics in the future. That is the goal of the Turkish foreign policy, and we will achieve it.
Whatever we lost between 1911 and 1923, whatever lands we withdrew from, from 2011 to 2023 we shall once again meet our brothers in those lands".
Davutoglou is history now-some reports even suggest he is under house arrest as it's former president Gul- and my feeling is that Erdogan not only he's not going to get any of the former Ottoman lands but he's going to lose the one's he's got.Which ever way one looks Erdogan will be assigned into the history's dustbin sooner rather than later.

And then Serbs accuse Albanians as Ottomans` allies.
Well, since Sultan Mehmed II was half-Serbian you can`t deny Turkish-Serbian blood relation. Blood is thicker than water.

Serbistan will rise again under Erdogan.

There was an article few days ago saying "calls for greater Albania" came from Turkey...now this :)

It just incredible how the Albos have gone in reverse gear since Erdogan turned on the west LOL. The Albanian tank has one forward gear and 6 in reverse.
Late last year when the Turks shot down the Russian jet our little Albos were jumping for joy and it was their Erdogan, but today they claim since “Sultan Mehmed II was half-Serbian .. ..” Blood is thicker than water. The fact is there is no proof that Mehmet’s mother was Serbian, Italian, French, Greek or even Chinese since all they know about her is that she was a slave.
I truly love how they go to great lengths to distance themselves from their true Muslim heritage LOL.
That’s why the west treats them like scrapings off the bottom of a boot, and who could blame them?
Erdogan is in Serbia only looking for new allies since he pissed on Washington et al early this year. Plus Turkish entrepreneurs invest in Serbia not Kosova LOL. So much for Kosovo is Turkey.

We don`t know either if Scanderbeg`s mother was Albanian, Serbian or Chinese. All we know is that his father was Albanian. But that doesn`t stop Serbs to call him Serbian or Greeks to call him Greek.

How it feels when the others use your methods and your standards about history?

What was done was done. Turkey may have taken our people but those people are today Turks not Serbs.

Same with Albanians who kidnapped Serbians. They are today Albanian not Serbian.

Erdogan also set that Kosovo is Turkey , now let's see if vucic has the balls to confirm him, if not then he is a pussy , witch we already know

Please come home daddy

I get annoyed when Albanian leaders meet with these barbaric Turks, now even Serbia's getting friendly with them. When will these Turks leave us alone, they took millions of our people and Turkified them and now they want to come back for more. Turkey has nothing to offer us it's time we shut the door and told them to p!$$ off.

The difference is that my reference “The fact is there is no proof that Mehmet’s mother was Serbian, Italian, French, Greek or even Chinese since all they know about her is that she was a slave. “ is actually out of a history book not something I made up.

We don`t know either if Scanderbeg`s mother was Albanian, Serbian or Chinese. All we know is that his father was Albanian. But that doesn`t stop Serbs to call him Serbian or Greeks to call him Greek.

How it feels when the others use your methods and your standards about history? (Free, 2 May 2017 12:22)

If he were for real he could be only a Slav. At least his both parents, his wife and his 9 children and himself - all had Slavic names. Besides in mediaeval times even birds were flying if they had a licence written in Slovenski - the official language of the Great Horde. To say nothing that Georgy was the Rus name of HAN OF THE HANS aka Gengis Khan while original Albanians/Beli were from n-w Rus lands including Bela Rus ... Please anybody gimme a single proof the Alexandar Bek has anything to do with the Sgqiptares !

sj : there is no proof that Mehmet’s mother was Serbian, Italian, French, Greek or even Chinese since all they know about her is that she was a slave.

Chapter 11 The identity of Tamerlane (Timur), the famous conqueror

1. Introduction
2. The physical appearance of Timur reconstructed by Gerasimov from the skull found in his grave. Could Timur have been European?
3. Arabian names in Russian history
4. Temir (Tamerlane) and Mehmet (Mohammed) II
5. Temir = Tamerlane = Mohammed II as the prototype of Alexander the Great
6. The history of Alexander's campaigns: the time and the purpose of its creation
7. Tamerlane and Alexis Comnenus
8. The meaning of the name Timur
9. The wars between Timur and Tokhtamysh
10. The cities of Samara and Samarqand
11. The Nogai Hord
12. The Goths and the Semirechye region
13. Events of the epoch of Mehmet II (the XV century) reflected in the biography of Tamerlane (the XIV century)
13.1. Mehmet = Mohammed II
13.2. The city of Samarqand, the capital of Timur, as described in the chronicles that relate the XV century events, and its true identity
13.3. Sultan Mehmet-Khan identified as Sultan Mehmet II.Who could have taken Bayazid captive?
14. The organisation of Timur's army. Had his Horde really been "wild"?
15. The issue of Tamerlane's religion
16. The burial of Timur
17. The customs of Timur's court
18. Tamerlane and Ivan III
19. Conclusion

http://chronologia.org/en/seven/chronology4.html

sj

The eclectic personality of Temir = Mehmet (Mahomet or Mohammed) II had served as the prototype for the famous biography of the “ancient” Alexander the Great

Alexander the Great is a reflection of the Ottoman ruler Mohammed II the Conqueror and the nearest Ottoman sultans, his heirs of the XV-XVI century a.d. – Suleiman the Magnificent for the most part (1522-1566)

one of the primary sources for Timur’s biography is known as the “Anonymous Tale of Iskander”, or the “Anonymous Tale of Alexander” ([829], page 9). Let us remind the reader that the Oriental name of Alexander the Great had been Iskander the Bicorn. The latter is most likely to be a direct reference to the Ottoman crescent

the mediaeval novels about the campaigns of Alexander the Great became widely known in the XV century, or the epoch of Mehmet (Mohammed) II.

It is a known fact that detailed descriptions of Alexander’s conquests only appeared in the West at the end of the XV century, after the fall of Constantinople, presumably translated from Greek. The circumstances of their appearance explain the fact that the biography of “Alexander of Macedon” was compiled from the biographies of Mehmet II and even Suleiman the Magnificent. One of the translators had been the famous Cardinal Bessarion, who had fled from Byzantium to Italy after the conquest of Constantinople by Mohammed II in 1453. Bessarion had also brought Ptolemy’s Almagest to the West.

http://chronologia.org/en/seven/4N11-EN.pdf

sj

Let us remind the reader that there had been two political parties in Constantinople before the Ottoman = Ataman conquest of 1453 – the Turkish and the Latin. The former had won; Bessarion had belonged to the Latin party and sought revenge ([455]). It turns out that he and his allies had urged the European rulers to wage war against the Turks “comparing the Turks to the ancient Persians and the Macedonian barbarians” ([1374], page 65). The Ottomans = Atamans of the XV century are most likely to identify as the “ancient” Macedonians; by the way, their army set forth towards Constantinople from the Balkan peninsula, which is where we find Macedonia. By the way, we find the Albanian town of Tirana nearby; its name sounds very much like “the city of Tiras”, or “the city of the Turks”

There is a copy of a book by Bessarion in existence – presumably a Latin translation of a Greek work by Demosthenes. It tells us about the campaigns of Alexander the Great, among other things. In the margins of the book we find notes made by Bessarion in red ink, where he points out the “obvious parallels” between the “ancient” wars of Alexander and the XV century campaigns of the Ottomans (see fig. 11.2) ... The book of Demosthenes with Bessarion’s commentaries is still kept in the archives of the Vatican library (see [1374], page 65).

http://chronologia.org/en/seven/4N11-EN.pdf