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Moscow reacts to Macedonia crisis; zeroes in on Pristina

The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced of Friday that Western meddling in Macedonia's affairs has taken on "extreme forms."

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lily263

pre 7 godina

lmao we all know what games russia plays in the balkans if it cant reach its geopolitical & and geostrategic goals it will create a threat to enter the region this is classical imperialism which both usa and russia are guilty of but people are blinded by ideology rather than historical facts. If the kremlin cant reach its goals it will push pseudo conspiracies about ethnic groups, typical divide & dominate. Russia has had an interest in balkan region for hundreds of years because it needs a strategic access to the mediterranean sea. Its becoming obvious why putin pushes such provocative propaganda to take advantage and exploit ethnic nationalist tensions since people are irrational they will fall for it. The aggressive rhetoric of such big players like putin & trump says everything

michael danias

pre 7 godina

pan Slavic support. the people of FYROM are slavic, the russians are slavic so like minded slavic people should assist each other. they have the same approach to civil liberties. They have the same approach to domestic violence. they have the same approach to censoring of the media. the misthruths can be shared by all.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Tirona says:

With your toy army and the Albanian KLA terrorist cowards.
(Jugoslavija, 6 March 2017 17:14)

You know there are no greater cowards than those who fight against unarmed civilians
===

Agreed but it's Albanians who are in the habit of terrorizing unarmed civilians not Serbs.
Have you forgotten all the cemeteries your lot destroyed? How about churches where you will only find civilians and priests?
Oh how about the children who were murdered at the river by your lot?
Let's not forget attacking busses full of civilians including children trying to reach their churches and monasteries.

Is this what you mean?

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Russia won't do nothing

Watch
(Une, 5 March 2017 13:38)
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Don't you know by now that we don't need Russia to kick your arse.
As long as Trump stays out of it, we can take care of our own business.

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

The country has already destroyed itself. When they allowed Gruevski to erect cheap Italian statues of Hellenic figures the place was doomed. we said nothing. He spent 680 million euros of our money falsifying a history. Anything that happens to Macedonia now is the fault of the Antiquated population who have been brainwashed and Gruevski. I wonder what Gruev and Delchev would have made of this mess. The diaspora criminals in Australia, USA and Canada are also to blame through their lack of education and ultra nationalism. They left here with a suitcase of old clothes and now fancy themselves as history professors. Let the Albanians have it. your greed for hellenic history and digging for something older that wasn't there has cost you your country. Admire Gruevski's statues and read your false encyclopedias because that's all that is left.
“Goce Delchev and Dame Gruev used to pass Death Sentences to those who claimed the blood of Alexander runs in us“. You made Greater Albania possible by your actions. Don't blame Albania. Don't blame the Greeks. Don't blame Zaev. Don't blame Georgievski. Blame yourselves. You fly a flag with a Hellenic symbol (the star of Vergina). Shame on you. Our flag is a gold lion on a red background not some Hellenistic symbol. You are all embarrassing.

Albanian Goat Herder

pre 7 godina

Albanians are picking a fight with Macedonia which I can see going only one way. Muslims don't belong in Europe full stop.

MB-Albo

pre 7 godina

I'm really curious what the "cut-off" time period is before someone decides that a population becomes "native" to the land. 500, 1000, 2000, 6000, 10000?

The only place we're all native to is Africa. Anywhere else on the planet, it's just a bunch of tribes that migrated there at different times...some earlier than others.

Slavs may have not settled in the Balkans as early as Albanians & Greeks, but they still have been around for centuries. I'd say that makes them just as native as Albos, Greeks today.

So, any talk about booting this or that population out, is just dumb. Honestly, whoever keeps thinking this way in this day and age, really needs to find something more useful to occupy the time.

Ian b

pre 7 godina

I can see the tides are changing for alanians. Their short reign of terror through support of nato is coming to an end. You have nowhere to go anymore, and you wont be able to steal anymore land, mainly because of the public nightmare it would be for nato. There is no other way for albania to advance unless nato paves the way considering they really have no military that can sustain defense of their ocvupations, let alone lead any kind of offensive on their own.

Tirona

pre 7 godina

With your toy army and the Albanian KLA terrorist cowards.
(Jugoslavija, 6 March 2017 17:14)

You know there are no greater cowards than those who fight against unarmed civilians. That's exactly what Serbia does, you only fight when the odds are 10-1 in your favor. Albanians on the other hand are used to fighting 1-10 when the odds are against them. That is what we have done throughout history, Albanian courage is known throughout the world. We even came and liberated parts of Serbia and Bosnia during WW2.

And if you think that Albania's army (a member of NATO) is a toy army, be my guest and try it. If a few poorly armed guerrillas made Milloshevic and his army look like fools, imagine what the army of a NATO member country along with the Kosovo Force can do to Serbia. You remember NATO don't you? I hope you have been oiling your Russian-made tanks from the 1950s, because Albanian fighter jets will need some good practice. This time NATO won't just attack from the air, it will have a solid and highly motivated Albanian ground force ready for invasion and clean-up. You should learn to keep your hands away from the Albanians in Presheva and Sanxhak, and stop destabilizing Kosovo, Montenegro and Bosnia. Your provocations will eventually end one way or another.

Goldeneagle

pre 7 godina

Jugoslavia

We are going to kick you slavic rats out of albanian territory and deport you to Siberia. Were you vermin came from. The Balkans belongs to the true natives. That is Albanians. Not slavs. We are going to get our territory back!

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ Goldeneagle - Beograd burn? Are you for real? It was already tried for 78 days and Beograd is just fine, if not better than before! I understand your passion, but if EVERYBODY was able to take property accordinging to world history injustices, where would we be? That is why I'm STILL saying that Albs & Srbs need to negotiate a deal that actually will work/ not work for both sides...otherwise, you're opening up an opportunity for some facist to take advantage of something and take counties (and young lives) down the path of war! I'm afraid that if beograd does burn, it will mean the ultimate destruction for the balkans...evil people who cry "cry Havoc & let loose the dogs of war" and just hope for the best...which never comes! Wake up!!!

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

That would be the perfect reason to unite our territories in Kosova, FYROM, and Presheva. Be careful what you're wishing for. It's not the 90' anymore. We're waiting for a single spark to ignite the lake of fuel.
Let's wait and see.
(Gent, 4 March 2017 09:34)

With your toy army and the Albanian KLA terrorist cowards. Keep going, you cockroaches are getting closer and closer to being deported to Turkey where you came from.

Ian b

pre 7 godina

I can see the tides are changing for alanians. Their short reign of terror through support of nato is coming to an end. You have nowhere to go anymore, and you wont be able to steal anymore land, mainly because of the public nightmare it would be for nato. There is no other way for albania to advance unless nato paves the way considering they really have no military that can sustain defense of their ocvupations, let alone lead any kind of offensive on their own.

rote

pre 7 godina

Be careful what you're wishing for. It's not the 90' anymore. We're waiting for a single spark to ignite the lake of fuel.
Let's wait and see.
(Gent, 4 March 2017 09:34)

Please do it!
Just give us a pretext!
We urgently need rehabilitation foe Slatina, Nis, Belgrade, Pristina !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sytdbYgiKAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HY5FqB32Lo

Genti

pre 7 godina

Our savior Jesus Christ is our right path... those who fight for their own will be rewarded.
(Sale, 4 March 2017 01:11)

So, your lord Jesus Christ told you to fight against your neighbors and co-citizens because you will be rewarded?? That is one crazy version of Christianity you preach, similar to those Serbian priests who constantly call for genocide.
You have accused us Albanians of arrogance, so I will humbly tell you my opinion that this is one fake version of Christianity and I think you know it. Lying and cheating is also a sin in our scriptures (I'm Christian too). I have nothing against Macedonian identiy, I think there are many slavic-speakers in Macedonia who have ancient Illyrian/Macedonian roots and they have been slavicised. However, the leaders of your nation has been arrogantly lying about an ancient "Macedonian" ancestry that glorifies its Slavic ties and arrogantly excludes Albanians, the earliest inhabitants of the region. Would you honestly disagree with this?

"Your gain at somebody's destruction!"
What exactly is being destructed? Albanians want their language to be official in Macedonia, how does that destroy the Slavic language? You should all support having the most ancient language in Macedonia protected in your constitution. Even the most ancient name of Macedonia, Emathia (E Madhja), is in the Albanian language. Isn't it a paradox to claim ancient ancestry, but not respect the most ancient language of the land?

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

They blame everyone but themselves. Its Greece’s fault. It’s the Albanians fault. Its Soros’s fault. Its Hillary’s fault, Its the Bulgarians fault. It’s the Serbs fault. Its Zaevs fault, It’s a conspiracy theory.
When will this nation wake up to itself. They cannot use the name Macedonia. They were till 1991 Yugoslavia. Any name that Yugoslavia gave the region was harmless because it was encompassed within a sovereign country. The name they have now is harmful. Its offensive to the Greeks. Its offensive to the Albanians. Its offensive to history. Its offensive to Bulgaria. Its offensive to academia. Its offensive to its population. They have set themselves up for a civil war. The Albanians need very little provocation for war. The pseudo Macedonians with their nationalistic rhetoric which has been instilled into them by Gruevski over the last 11 years will use any excuse for a fight with their neighbors.
They need an about face as a nation. They need to embrace a multi ethnic stance in relation to the Albanians within their country. They need to eradicate the false ideology that permeates their state run media. They need to turn to their qualified academics who have been silenced, victimized and ostracized for formulating an internal cultural platform that befits their ethnicity. The false antiquization program of Gruevski needs to be dismantledde If they follow this plan all will be fine. If they don’t they will definitely end up in a bloody civil war. I fear the worst.

Gent

pre 7 godina

@ Sotir ilievski pozdrav brate... I agree with you 100% we need to unite and stop these cockroaches from stealing our lands .
(cetnik1, 3 March 2017 23:28)

That would be the perfect reason to unite our territories in Kosova, FYROM, and Presheva. Be careful what you're wishing for. It's not the 90' anymore. We're waiting for a single spark to ignite the lake of fuel.
Let's wait and see.

Juior999

pre 7 godina

Ridiculous. This is ALL about Gruevski, and his minion Ivanov, who simply refuse to relinquish power. And they will BURN the whole country down to keep their chokehold on the country. Because they know, if they lose majority power, they will swiftly be indicted on criminal charges. This is the REAL ISSUE. Its not about Russia, not about EU/USA meddling, is not even about the Albanian platform. Its about the cursed region of the Balkans that are ruled by bloodsucking egotistical criminal thugs, who milk the poor while lining their pockets, who take gleeful joy pitting their citizens against one another in order to secure their power, and who mascaraed to be national hero's "saving" the country, when in fact it is all about saving their own behinds.

Sale

pre 7 godina

If some can blame Russia for what is happening maybe we should then blame the Ottoman Empire?! Maybe we can say that if about 50% of Albanians never sold their Christian roots and accepted Islam there would never have been such crimes in the Balkans. Well...... I am Macedonian and blame the Macedonians for selling out their own people. Never mind Albanian arrogance and pride and no regard for anybody but themselves, which all categorize as sins in our scriptures. The Macedonian people are lost today, that's right lost and they are struggling to find the right path. But this is no embarrassment as everybody gets lost at some stage, our lord know this. Our savior Jesus Christ is our right path, our creator, our father! Those who sell their own country, people and future of their very own children, there is no redemption for them, they will perish! But those who fight for their own will be rewarded. If you are an Albanian and can dearly see that your demands are way beyond normal and you still support these demands then what do you expect? Your gain at somebody's destruction! Not very humane is it, definitely not Christian and we can all be sure of one thing, God and only God will judge is and there is only ONE GOD!

michael danias

pre 7 godina

The root of Fyrom's problems is identity. The country has been built on bad foundations so its now
faltering. had it had a sound foundation of multiculturalism it would not be in the mess. The Albanians are indigenous and as such
deserve equal rights. Just the name Macedonia is offensive to the Albanians. Its offensive the the Greeks. its offensive to the
Bulgarians. When a new nation offends its neighbors from the gecko it is doomed. add to this the cultural fabrications of antiquity.
Slavic denials. stolen national heroes. theme parks that are the product of a mad man. languishing economy. ect ect. all these
social and economic issues are brought upon from one thing ­ the identity. Its false. The minute they redefine who they are in a
correct historical manner the country will thrive. they don't take criticism well. Macedonia is a name that is not exclusive to FYROM. They cannot use it. They have had ample time to fix the name issue.
Instead they forged along with a false antiqization policy. Inflammatory airport names. statues of historical figures
that are not connected to them. ect ect. The media has been shut down. Take Mina as an example of Gruevski
propaganda. The place stinks. The best option they have is to take Rohrabacher's advice.
Partition for peace. Let the Albanians split. They will never be accepted by their Slav co-occupants. The fragmented mess can
then decide to either forge along in their fantasy land or joint their ancestral home Bulgaria.

EE

pre 7 godina

Russia is and has been the mother of all evils in the Balkans. Russia is behind all serbians crimes, genocide and ethnic cleansing in the region. It seems that Russia ordered Ivanov to block the forming of the new government and its the main sponosor together with Serbia of antialbanian forces in the region. One century ago Russia was against the creation of the Albanian State, today its against the albanians rights in Kosovo and in Macedonia. It failed to stop the creation of the Albanian State, the Kosovar state and will fail again in Macedonia.

As for this monkeydonian here called sotir ilievski, who calls for war against albanians. I think you should be careful what you're wishing for, because you might get it. Very soon. The only reason that is keeping albanians out of this is only the usa and the eu. Is not Russia. We don't give a damn fu.k about Russia. Never have.

Sotir Ilievski

pre 7 godina

Thank you Russia for your support. Thank you Srbija for your support. Now let's clean up both Kosovo and Macedonia from this cancerous growth that has spread like a virus on our land.

Sotir Ilievski

pre 7 godina

Thank you Russia for your support. Thank you Srbija for your support. Now let's clean up both Kosovo and Macedonia from this cancerous growth that has spread like a virus on our land.

EE

pre 7 godina

Russia is and has been the mother of all evils in the Balkans. Russia is behind all serbians crimes, genocide and ethnic cleansing in the region. It seems that Russia ordered Ivanov to block the forming of the new government and its the main sponosor together with Serbia of antialbanian forces in the region. One century ago Russia was against the creation of the Albanian State, today its against the albanians rights in Kosovo and in Macedonia. It failed to stop the creation of the Albanian State, the Kosovar state and will fail again in Macedonia.

As for this monkeydonian here called sotir ilievski, who calls for war against albanians. I think you should be careful what you're wishing for, because you might get it. Very soon. The only reason that is keeping albanians out of this is only the usa and the eu. Is not Russia. We don't give a damn fu.k about Russia. Never have.

Gent

pre 7 godina

@ Sotir ilievski pozdrav brate... I agree with you 100% we need to unite and stop these cockroaches from stealing our lands .
(cetnik1, 3 March 2017 23:28)

That would be the perfect reason to unite our territories in Kosova, FYROM, and Presheva. Be careful what you're wishing for. It's not the 90' anymore. We're waiting for a single spark to ignite the lake of fuel.
Let's wait and see.

michael danias

pre 7 godina

The root of Fyrom's problems is identity. The country has been built on bad foundations so its now
faltering. had it had a sound foundation of multiculturalism it would not be in the mess. The Albanians are indigenous and as such
deserve equal rights. Just the name Macedonia is offensive to the Albanians. Its offensive the the Greeks. its offensive to the
Bulgarians. When a new nation offends its neighbors from the gecko it is doomed. add to this the cultural fabrications of antiquity.
Slavic denials. stolen national heroes. theme parks that are the product of a mad man. languishing economy. ect ect. all these
social and economic issues are brought upon from one thing ­ the identity. Its false. The minute they redefine who they are in a
correct historical manner the country will thrive. they don't take criticism well. Macedonia is a name that is not exclusive to FYROM. They cannot use it. They have had ample time to fix the name issue.
Instead they forged along with a false antiqization policy. Inflammatory airport names. statues of historical figures
that are not connected to them. ect ect. The media has been shut down. Take Mina as an example of Gruevski
propaganda. The place stinks. The best option they have is to take Rohrabacher's advice.
Partition for peace. Let the Albanians split. They will never be accepted by their Slav co-occupants. The fragmented mess can
then decide to either forge along in their fantasy land or joint their ancestral home Bulgaria.

Juior999

pre 7 godina

Ridiculous. This is ALL about Gruevski, and his minion Ivanov, who simply refuse to relinquish power. And they will BURN the whole country down to keep their chokehold on the country. Because they know, if they lose majority power, they will swiftly be indicted on criminal charges. This is the REAL ISSUE. Its not about Russia, not about EU/USA meddling, is not even about the Albanian platform. Its about the cursed region of the Balkans that are ruled by bloodsucking egotistical criminal thugs, who milk the poor while lining their pockets, who take gleeful joy pitting their citizens against one another in order to secure their power, and who mascaraed to be national hero's "saving" the country, when in fact it is all about saving their own behinds.

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

They blame everyone but themselves. Its Greece’s fault. It’s the Albanians fault. Its Soros’s fault. Its Hillary’s fault, Its the Bulgarians fault. It’s the Serbs fault. Its Zaevs fault, It’s a conspiracy theory.
When will this nation wake up to itself. They cannot use the name Macedonia. They were till 1991 Yugoslavia. Any name that Yugoslavia gave the region was harmless because it was encompassed within a sovereign country. The name they have now is harmful. Its offensive to the Greeks. Its offensive to the Albanians. Its offensive to history. Its offensive to Bulgaria. Its offensive to academia. Its offensive to its population. They have set themselves up for a civil war. The Albanians need very little provocation for war. The pseudo Macedonians with their nationalistic rhetoric which has been instilled into them by Gruevski over the last 11 years will use any excuse for a fight with their neighbors.
They need an about face as a nation. They need to embrace a multi ethnic stance in relation to the Albanians within their country. They need to eradicate the false ideology that permeates their state run media. They need to turn to their qualified academics who have been silenced, victimized and ostracized for formulating an internal cultural platform that befits their ethnicity. The false antiquization program of Gruevski needs to be dismantledde If they follow this plan all will be fine. If they don’t they will definitely end up in a bloody civil war. I fear the worst.

Genti

pre 7 godina

Our savior Jesus Christ is our right path... those who fight for their own will be rewarded.
(Sale, 4 March 2017 01:11)

So, your lord Jesus Christ told you to fight against your neighbors and co-citizens because you will be rewarded?? That is one crazy version of Christianity you preach, similar to those Serbian priests who constantly call for genocide.
You have accused us Albanians of arrogance, so I will humbly tell you my opinion that this is one fake version of Christianity and I think you know it. Lying and cheating is also a sin in our scriptures (I'm Christian too). I have nothing against Macedonian identiy, I think there are many slavic-speakers in Macedonia who have ancient Illyrian/Macedonian roots and they have been slavicised. However, the leaders of your nation has been arrogantly lying about an ancient "Macedonian" ancestry that glorifies its Slavic ties and arrogantly excludes Albanians, the earliest inhabitants of the region. Would you honestly disagree with this?

"Your gain at somebody's destruction!"
What exactly is being destructed? Albanians want their language to be official in Macedonia, how does that destroy the Slavic language? You should all support having the most ancient language in Macedonia protected in your constitution. Even the most ancient name of Macedonia, Emathia (E Madhja), is in the Albanian language. Isn't it a paradox to claim ancient ancestry, but not respect the most ancient language of the land?

Sale

pre 7 godina

If some can blame Russia for what is happening maybe we should then blame the Ottoman Empire?! Maybe we can say that if about 50% of Albanians never sold their Christian roots and accepted Islam there would never have been such crimes in the Balkans. Well...... I am Macedonian and blame the Macedonians for selling out their own people. Never mind Albanian arrogance and pride and no regard for anybody but themselves, which all categorize as sins in our scriptures. The Macedonian people are lost today, that's right lost and they are struggling to find the right path. But this is no embarrassment as everybody gets lost at some stage, our lord know this. Our savior Jesus Christ is our right path, our creator, our father! Those who sell their own country, people and future of their very own children, there is no redemption for them, they will perish! But those who fight for their own will be rewarded. If you are an Albanian and can dearly see that your demands are way beyond normal and you still support these demands then what do you expect? Your gain at somebody's destruction! Not very humane is it, definitely not Christian and we can all be sure of one thing, God and only God will judge is and there is only ONE GOD!

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

That would be the perfect reason to unite our territories in Kosova, FYROM, and Presheva. Be careful what you're wishing for. It's not the 90' anymore. We're waiting for a single spark to ignite the lake of fuel.
Let's wait and see.
(Gent, 4 March 2017 09:34)

With your toy army and the Albanian KLA terrorist cowards. Keep going, you cockroaches are getting closer and closer to being deported to Turkey where you came from.

Tirona

pre 7 godina

With your toy army and the Albanian KLA terrorist cowards.
(Jugoslavija, 6 March 2017 17:14)

You know there are no greater cowards than those who fight against unarmed civilians. That's exactly what Serbia does, you only fight when the odds are 10-1 in your favor. Albanians on the other hand are used to fighting 1-10 when the odds are against them. That is what we have done throughout history, Albanian courage is known throughout the world. We even came and liberated parts of Serbia and Bosnia during WW2.

And if you think that Albania's army (a member of NATO) is a toy army, be my guest and try it. If a few poorly armed guerrillas made Milloshevic and his army look like fools, imagine what the army of a NATO member country along with the Kosovo Force can do to Serbia. You remember NATO don't you? I hope you have been oiling your Russian-made tanks from the 1950s, because Albanian fighter jets will need some good practice. This time NATO won't just attack from the air, it will have a solid and highly motivated Albanian ground force ready for invasion and clean-up. You should learn to keep your hands away from the Albanians in Presheva and Sanxhak, and stop destabilizing Kosovo, Montenegro and Bosnia. Your provocations will eventually end one way or another.

rote

pre 7 godina

Be careful what you're wishing for. It's not the 90' anymore. We're waiting for a single spark to ignite the lake of fuel.
Let's wait and see.
(Gent, 4 March 2017 09:34)

Please do it!
Just give us a pretext!
We urgently need rehabilitation foe Slatina, Nis, Belgrade, Pristina !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sytdbYgiKAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HY5FqB32Lo

Goldeneagle

pre 7 godina

Jugoslavia

We are going to kick you slavic rats out of albanian territory and deport you to Siberia. Were you vermin came from. The Balkans belongs to the true natives. That is Albanians. Not slavs. We are going to get our territory back!

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

The country has already destroyed itself. When they allowed Gruevski to erect cheap Italian statues of Hellenic figures the place was doomed. we said nothing. He spent 680 million euros of our money falsifying a history. Anything that happens to Macedonia now is the fault of the Antiquated population who have been brainwashed and Gruevski. I wonder what Gruev and Delchev would have made of this mess. The diaspora criminals in Australia, USA and Canada are also to blame through their lack of education and ultra nationalism. They left here with a suitcase of old clothes and now fancy themselves as history professors. Let the Albanians have it. your greed for hellenic history and digging for something older that wasn't there has cost you your country. Admire Gruevski's statues and read your false encyclopedias because that's all that is left.
“Goce Delchev and Dame Gruev used to pass Death Sentences to those who claimed the blood of Alexander runs in us“. You made Greater Albania possible by your actions. Don't blame Albania. Don't blame the Greeks. Don't blame Zaev. Don't blame Georgievski. Blame yourselves. You fly a flag with a Hellenic symbol (the star of Vergina). Shame on you. Our flag is a gold lion on a red background not some Hellenistic symbol. You are all embarrassing.

Ian b

pre 7 godina

I can see the tides are changing for alanians. Their short reign of terror through support of nato is coming to an end. You have nowhere to go anymore, and you wont be able to steal anymore land, mainly because of the public nightmare it would be for nato. There is no other way for albania to advance unless nato paves the way considering they really have no military that can sustain defense of their ocvupations, let alone lead any kind of offensive on their own.

MB-Albo

pre 7 godina

I'm really curious what the "cut-off" time period is before someone decides that a population becomes "native" to the land. 500, 1000, 2000, 6000, 10000?

The only place we're all native to is Africa. Anywhere else on the planet, it's just a bunch of tribes that migrated there at different times...some earlier than others.

Slavs may have not settled in the Balkans as early as Albanians & Greeks, but they still have been around for centuries. I'd say that makes them just as native as Albos, Greeks today.

So, any talk about booting this or that population out, is just dumb. Honestly, whoever keeps thinking this way in this day and age, really needs to find something more useful to occupy the time.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ Goldeneagle - Beograd burn? Are you for real? It was already tried for 78 days and Beograd is just fine, if not better than before! I understand your passion, but if EVERYBODY was able to take property accordinging to world history injustices, where would we be? That is why I'm STILL saying that Albs & Srbs need to negotiate a deal that actually will work/ not work for both sides...otherwise, you're opening up an opportunity for some facist to take advantage of something and take counties (and young lives) down the path of war! I'm afraid that if beograd does burn, it will mean the ultimate destruction for the balkans...evil people who cry "cry Havoc & let loose the dogs of war" and just hope for the best...which never comes! Wake up!!!

Ian b

pre 7 godina

I can see the tides are changing for alanians. Their short reign of terror through support of nato is coming to an end. You have nowhere to go anymore, and you wont be able to steal anymore land, mainly because of the public nightmare it would be for nato. There is no other way for albania to advance unless nato paves the way considering they really have no military that can sustain defense of their ocvupations, let alone lead any kind of offensive on their own.

Albanian Goat Herder

pre 7 godina

Albanians are picking a fight with Macedonia which I can see going only one way. Muslims don't belong in Europe full stop.

michael danias

pre 7 godina

pan Slavic support. the people of FYROM are slavic, the russians are slavic so like minded slavic people should assist each other. they have the same approach to civil liberties. They have the same approach to domestic violence. they have the same approach to censoring of the media. the misthruths can be shared by all.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Tirona says:

With your toy army and the Albanian KLA terrorist cowards.
(Jugoslavija, 6 March 2017 17:14)

You know there are no greater cowards than those who fight against unarmed civilians
===

Agreed but it's Albanians who are in the habit of terrorizing unarmed civilians not Serbs.
Have you forgotten all the cemeteries your lot destroyed? How about churches where you will only find civilians and priests?
Oh how about the children who were murdered at the river by your lot?
Let's not forget attacking busses full of civilians including children trying to reach their churches and monasteries.

Is this what you mean?

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Russia won't do nothing

Watch
(Une, 5 March 2017 13:38)
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Don't you know by now that we don't need Russia to kick your arse.
As long as Trump stays out of it, we can take care of our own business.

lily263

pre 7 godina

lmao we all know what games russia plays in the balkans if it cant reach its geopolitical & and geostrategic goals it will create a threat to enter the region this is classical imperialism which both usa and russia are guilty of but people are blinded by ideology rather than historical facts. If the kremlin cant reach its goals it will push pseudo conspiracies about ethnic groups, typical divide & dominate. Russia has had an interest in balkan region for hundreds of years because it needs a strategic access to the mediterranean sea. Its becoming obvious why putin pushes such provocative propaganda to take advantage and exploit ethnic nationalist tensions since people are irrational they will fall for it. The aggressive rhetoric of such big players like putin & trump says everything

EE

pre 7 godina

Russia is and has been the mother of all evils in the Balkans. Russia is behind all serbians crimes, genocide and ethnic cleansing in the region. It seems that Russia ordered Ivanov to block the forming of the new government and its the main sponosor together with Serbia of antialbanian forces in the region. One century ago Russia was against the creation of the Albanian State, today its against the albanians rights in Kosovo and in Macedonia. It failed to stop the creation of the Albanian State, the Kosovar state and will fail again in Macedonia.

As for this monkeydonian here called sotir ilievski, who calls for war against albanians. I think you should be careful what you're wishing for, because you might get it. Very soon. The only reason that is keeping albanians out of this is only the usa and the eu. Is not Russia. We don't give a damn fu.k about Russia. Never have.

Sotir Ilievski

pre 7 godina

Thank you Russia for your support. Thank you Srbija for your support. Now let's clean up both Kosovo and Macedonia from this cancerous growth that has spread like a virus on our land.

michael danias

pre 7 godina

The root of Fyrom's problems is identity. The country has been built on bad foundations so its now
faltering. had it had a sound foundation of multiculturalism it would not be in the mess. The Albanians are indigenous and as such
deserve equal rights. Just the name Macedonia is offensive to the Albanians. Its offensive the the Greeks. its offensive to the
Bulgarians. When a new nation offends its neighbors from the gecko it is doomed. add to this the cultural fabrications of antiquity.
Slavic denials. stolen national heroes. theme parks that are the product of a mad man. languishing economy. ect ect. all these
social and economic issues are brought upon from one thing ­ the identity. Its false. The minute they redefine who they are in a
correct historical manner the country will thrive. they don't take criticism well. Macedonia is a name that is not exclusive to FYROM. They cannot use it. They have had ample time to fix the name issue.
Instead they forged along with a false antiqization policy. Inflammatory airport names. statues of historical figures
that are not connected to them. ect ect. The media has been shut down. Take Mina as an example of Gruevski
propaganda. The place stinks. The best option they have is to take Rohrabacher's advice.
Partition for peace. Let the Albanians split. They will never be accepted by their Slav co-occupants. The fragmented mess can
then decide to either forge along in their fantasy land or joint their ancestral home Bulgaria.

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

They blame everyone but themselves. Its Greece’s fault. It’s the Albanians fault. Its Soros’s fault. Its Hillary’s fault, Its the Bulgarians fault. It’s the Serbs fault. Its Zaevs fault, It’s a conspiracy theory.
When will this nation wake up to itself. They cannot use the name Macedonia. They were till 1991 Yugoslavia. Any name that Yugoslavia gave the region was harmless because it was encompassed within a sovereign country. The name they have now is harmful. Its offensive to the Greeks. Its offensive to the Albanians. Its offensive to history. Its offensive to Bulgaria. Its offensive to academia. Its offensive to its population. They have set themselves up for a civil war. The Albanians need very little provocation for war. The pseudo Macedonians with their nationalistic rhetoric which has been instilled into them by Gruevski over the last 11 years will use any excuse for a fight with their neighbors.
They need an about face as a nation. They need to embrace a multi ethnic stance in relation to the Albanians within their country. They need to eradicate the false ideology that permeates their state run media. They need to turn to their qualified academics who have been silenced, victimized and ostracized for formulating an internal cultural platform that befits their ethnicity. The false antiquization program of Gruevski needs to be dismantledde If they follow this plan all will be fine. If they don’t they will definitely end up in a bloody civil war. I fear the worst.

Goldeneagle

pre 7 godina

Jugoslavia

We are going to kick you slavic rats out of albanian territory and deport you to Siberia. Were you vermin came from. The Balkans belongs to the true natives. That is Albanians. Not slavs. We are going to get our territory back!

Sale

pre 7 godina

If some can blame Russia for what is happening maybe we should then blame the Ottoman Empire?! Maybe we can say that if about 50% of Albanians never sold their Christian roots and accepted Islam there would never have been such crimes in the Balkans. Well...... I am Macedonian and blame the Macedonians for selling out their own people. Never mind Albanian arrogance and pride and no regard for anybody but themselves, which all categorize as sins in our scriptures. The Macedonian people are lost today, that's right lost and they are struggling to find the right path. But this is no embarrassment as everybody gets lost at some stage, our lord know this. Our savior Jesus Christ is our right path, our creator, our father! Those who sell their own country, people and future of their very own children, there is no redemption for them, they will perish! But those who fight for their own will be rewarded. If you are an Albanian and can dearly see that your demands are way beyond normal and you still support these demands then what do you expect? Your gain at somebody's destruction! Not very humane is it, definitely not Christian and we can all be sure of one thing, God and only God will judge is and there is only ONE GOD!

Gent

pre 7 godina

@ Sotir ilievski pozdrav brate... I agree with you 100% we need to unite and stop these cockroaches from stealing our lands .
(cetnik1, 3 March 2017 23:28)

That would be the perfect reason to unite our territories in Kosova, FYROM, and Presheva. Be careful what you're wishing for. It's not the 90' anymore. We're waiting for a single spark to ignite the lake of fuel.
Let's wait and see.

Genti

pre 7 godina

Our savior Jesus Christ is our right path... those who fight for their own will be rewarded.
(Sale, 4 March 2017 01:11)

So, your lord Jesus Christ told you to fight against your neighbors and co-citizens because you will be rewarded?? That is one crazy version of Christianity you preach, similar to those Serbian priests who constantly call for genocide.
You have accused us Albanians of arrogance, so I will humbly tell you my opinion that this is one fake version of Christianity and I think you know it. Lying and cheating is also a sin in our scriptures (I'm Christian too). I have nothing against Macedonian identiy, I think there are many slavic-speakers in Macedonia who have ancient Illyrian/Macedonian roots and they have been slavicised. However, the leaders of your nation has been arrogantly lying about an ancient "Macedonian" ancestry that glorifies its Slavic ties and arrogantly excludes Albanians, the earliest inhabitants of the region. Would you honestly disagree with this?

"Your gain at somebody's destruction!"
What exactly is being destructed? Albanians want their language to be official in Macedonia, how does that destroy the Slavic language? You should all support having the most ancient language in Macedonia protected in your constitution. Even the most ancient name of Macedonia, Emathia (E Madhja), is in the Albanian language. Isn't it a paradox to claim ancient ancestry, but not respect the most ancient language of the land?

Ian b

pre 7 godina

I can see the tides are changing for alanians. Their short reign of terror through support of nato is coming to an end. You have nowhere to go anymore, and you wont be able to steal anymore land, mainly because of the public nightmare it would be for nato. There is no other way for albania to advance unless nato paves the way considering they really have no military that can sustain defense of their ocvupations, let alone lead any kind of offensive on their own.

Juior999

pre 7 godina

Ridiculous. This is ALL about Gruevski, and his minion Ivanov, who simply refuse to relinquish power. And they will BURN the whole country down to keep their chokehold on the country. Because they know, if they lose majority power, they will swiftly be indicted on criminal charges. This is the REAL ISSUE. Its not about Russia, not about EU/USA meddling, is not even about the Albanian platform. Its about the cursed region of the Balkans that are ruled by bloodsucking egotistical criminal thugs, who milk the poor while lining their pockets, who take gleeful joy pitting their citizens against one another in order to secure their power, and who mascaraed to be national hero's "saving" the country, when in fact it is all about saving their own behinds.

rote

pre 7 godina

Be careful what you're wishing for. It's not the 90' anymore. We're waiting for a single spark to ignite the lake of fuel.
Let's wait and see.
(Gent, 4 March 2017 09:34)

Please do it!
Just give us a pretext!
We urgently need rehabilitation foe Slatina, Nis, Belgrade, Pristina !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sytdbYgiKAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HY5FqB32Lo

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

That would be the perfect reason to unite our territories in Kosova, FYROM, and Presheva. Be careful what you're wishing for. It's not the 90' anymore. We're waiting for a single spark to ignite the lake of fuel.
Let's wait and see.
(Gent, 4 March 2017 09:34)

With your toy army and the Albanian KLA terrorist cowards. Keep going, you cockroaches are getting closer and closer to being deported to Turkey where you came from.

Tirona

pre 7 godina

With your toy army and the Albanian KLA terrorist cowards.
(Jugoslavija, 6 March 2017 17:14)

You know there are no greater cowards than those who fight against unarmed civilians. That's exactly what Serbia does, you only fight when the odds are 10-1 in your favor. Albanians on the other hand are used to fighting 1-10 when the odds are against them. That is what we have done throughout history, Albanian courage is known throughout the world. We even came and liberated parts of Serbia and Bosnia during WW2.

And if you think that Albania's army (a member of NATO) is a toy army, be my guest and try it. If a few poorly armed guerrillas made Milloshevic and his army look like fools, imagine what the army of a NATO member country along with the Kosovo Force can do to Serbia. You remember NATO don't you? I hope you have been oiling your Russian-made tanks from the 1950s, because Albanian fighter jets will need some good practice. This time NATO won't just attack from the air, it will have a solid and highly motivated Albanian ground force ready for invasion and clean-up. You should learn to keep your hands away from the Albanians in Presheva and Sanxhak, and stop destabilizing Kosovo, Montenegro and Bosnia. Your provocations will eventually end one way or another.

MB-Albo

pre 7 godina

I'm really curious what the "cut-off" time period is before someone decides that a population becomes "native" to the land. 500, 1000, 2000, 6000, 10000?

The only place we're all native to is Africa. Anywhere else on the planet, it's just a bunch of tribes that migrated there at different times...some earlier than others.

Slavs may have not settled in the Balkans as early as Albanians & Greeks, but they still have been around for centuries. I'd say that makes them just as native as Albos, Greeks today.

So, any talk about booting this or that population out, is just dumb. Honestly, whoever keeps thinking this way in this day and age, really needs to find something more useful to occupy the time.

Albanian Goat Herder

pre 7 godina

Albanians are picking a fight with Macedonia which I can see going only one way. Muslims don't belong in Europe full stop.

Ian b

pre 7 godina

I can see the tides are changing for alanians. Their short reign of terror through support of nato is coming to an end. You have nowhere to go anymore, and you wont be able to steal anymore land, mainly because of the public nightmare it would be for nato. There is no other way for albania to advance unless nato paves the way considering they really have no military that can sustain defense of their ocvupations, let alone lead any kind of offensive on their own.

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

The country has already destroyed itself. When they allowed Gruevski to erect cheap Italian statues of Hellenic figures the place was doomed. we said nothing. He spent 680 million euros of our money falsifying a history. Anything that happens to Macedonia now is the fault of the Antiquated population who have been brainwashed and Gruevski. I wonder what Gruev and Delchev would have made of this mess. The diaspora criminals in Australia, USA and Canada are also to blame through their lack of education and ultra nationalism. They left here with a suitcase of old clothes and now fancy themselves as history professors. Let the Albanians have it. your greed for hellenic history and digging for something older that wasn't there has cost you your country. Admire Gruevski's statues and read your false encyclopedias because that's all that is left.
“Goce Delchev and Dame Gruev used to pass Death Sentences to those who claimed the blood of Alexander runs in us“. You made Greater Albania possible by your actions. Don't blame Albania. Don't blame the Greeks. Don't blame Zaev. Don't blame Georgievski. Blame yourselves. You fly a flag with a Hellenic symbol (the star of Vergina). Shame on you. Our flag is a gold lion on a red background not some Hellenistic symbol. You are all embarrassing.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Tirona says:

With your toy army and the Albanian KLA terrorist cowards.
(Jugoslavija, 6 March 2017 17:14)

You know there are no greater cowards than those who fight against unarmed civilians
===

Agreed but it's Albanians who are in the habit of terrorizing unarmed civilians not Serbs.
Have you forgotten all the cemeteries your lot destroyed? How about churches where you will only find civilians and priests?
Oh how about the children who were murdered at the river by your lot?
Let's not forget attacking busses full of civilians including children trying to reach their churches and monasteries.

Is this what you mean?

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Russia won't do nothing

Watch
(Une, 5 March 2017 13:38)
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Don't you know by now that we don't need Russia to kick your arse.
As long as Trump stays out of it, we can take care of our own business.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ Goldeneagle - Beograd burn? Are you for real? It was already tried for 78 days and Beograd is just fine, if not better than before! I understand your passion, but if EVERYBODY was able to take property accordinging to world history injustices, where would we be? That is why I'm STILL saying that Albs & Srbs need to negotiate a deal that actually will work/ not work for both sides...otherwise, you're opening up an opportunity for some facist to take advantage of something and take counties (and young lives) down the path of war! I'm afraid that if beograd does burn, it will mean the ultimate destruction for the balkans...evil people who cry "cry Havoc & let loose the dogs of war" and just hope for the best...which never comes! Wake up!!!

michael danias

pre 7 godina

pan Slavic support. the people of FYROM are slavic, the russians are slavic so like minded slavic people should assist each other. they have the same approach to civil liberties. They have the same approach to domestic violence. they have the same approach to censoring of the media. the misthruths can be shared by all.

lily263

pre 7 godina

lmao we all know what games russia plays in the balkans if it cant reach its geopolitical & and geostrategic goals it will create a threat to enter the region this is classical imperialism which both usa and russia are guilty of but people are blinded by ideology rather than historical facts. If the kremlin cant reach its goals it will push pseudo conspiracies about ethnic groups, typical divide & dominate. Russia has had an interest in balkan region for hundreds of years because it needs a strategic access to the mediterranean sea. Its becoming obvious why putin pushes such provocative propaganda to take advantage and exploit ethnic nationalist tensions since people are irrational they will fall for it. The aggressive rhetoric of such big players like putin & trump says everything