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Tuesday, 07.02.2017.

10:50

"Trump not interested in Balkans; EU must deal with it"

The EU must finally understand the Balkans as its priority, claims German author and columnist Ulrich Ladurner.

Izvor: Deutsche Welle

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sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Sasa

I said war ,not battle.
Anyway from what you write,and what it is ,it makes srbja a coward troublemaker, and not warrior nation.
(delon, 8 February 2017 16:33) # Com

To Delon,
You must get a education in history ,Serbia was victories in World War 1 and 2.
As well , majority of Balkan wars in the 1800's.
Serbia ,threw out Ottoman Empire ,Nazi Germany ,Austria -Hungaria Empire , Bulgarian , and even the British (1948,Trieste)out of Yugoslavia.
Delon,you are very uneducated in history ,but Australia only teaches about Captain Cook, Hahaha

sj

pre 7 godina

All I am politely asking, name only ONE war that regular SRB ARMY vs ANY REGULAR ARMY of another country, that Srps had victory, without OUTSIDE interface.
Is that too much?!
(delon, 8 February 2017 14:23)

I won’t wade through history, but will only mention the battles of Kolubara and Cer where Serbs defeated the Austrians which is a considerable feat when taking into account that such a small army defeated an Empire. If Germany and allies had not come in on the side of Austria, the Empire would have collapsed there and then.
German Field Marshal Anton Ludwig August von Mackensen was in command of Germany’s Eleventh Army, Austro-Hungarian Third Army, and Bulgarian First Army and tasked with the taking Belgrade and he did not take it easily, but seer numbers meant Belgrade fell.
Upon entering it, Field Marshal Mackensen erected a monument to the Serbian soldiers who died defending their capital with the inscription -HIER RUHEN SERBISCHE HELDEN- - "Here rest Serbian heroes", both in German and Serbian. It says a lot when your enemy does that. That monument is still in Belgrade and located in Topcidar Park.
Now what have you Albanians done?

factman

pre 7 godina

PS:

Note to Belgrade.

Now is the time to slowly begin developing a pro-American policy position. Soon it will be time to start leaning the other way.

factman

pre 7 godina

It's true. America does not care anymore.

And as a result, the balance of power in the region simply returns back to its historical norm.

If you think Germany will now become muscular in the region and fill the void, then you are not aware of the spirit of the times. Germans don't really car either.

Serbia has a great opportunity to become responsible and a real leader in the region. I hope it puts its best foot forward and steps up to the plate.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Read some history and you will be pleasantly surprised.
(sj, 8 February 2017 10:20)
===========================
I don't think it will be a pleasant surprise at all, more of a shock to the system.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 7 godina

I Quote -

(delon, 8 February 2017 16:33).

Comment -
You know nothing about Serbia,
as a Warrior Nation or,
the Serbians as Warriors but,
You will soon Learn about it..

Arn.Sweden.

rote

pre 7 godina

name only ONE war that regular SRB ARMY vs ANY REGULAR ARMY of another country, that Srps had victory, without OUTSIDE interface. Is that too much?! (delon)

No problems my friend ! In 1944 when the Soviet Army reached Yugoslavia the Germans and their allies controlled about 10% of the territory including Belgrade. Should they have an experience and ammunition for seizinf such a big city who knows they could leave theSoviets jobless. As you must know together with their Montenegrin branch Serbs made up to 90% of the two Yugoslavian armies. Outside Yugoslavia the partizans were in Greece and a bit in Albania. So during WW2 the partisan movement on the Balkans in a great degree was a Serbian movement. Then the Romanians and the Bulgarians joined us in 1944. But before that for the long 3 years the USSR had no brothers in arms other than the 2 Serbian armies. They suffered second big combat losses after the USSR. Europe hates us because their fathers and granfathers were defeated by the Serbs/Russians. The US coalition joined us only 11 months before WW2 was ended. Since March 1945 the Hitlerists stopped to resist in the west and sent all survived troops to the eastern front. So the allies drived along the autobans while the Soviets crawled on their bellies. Anyways Serbs set their Yugoslavia free by themselves. Write it on your nose. It saved plenty of our lives. Combat losses of the USSR in Poland exceeded 600 000 while in Yugoslavia it was 7900 ...

delon

pre 7 godina

Sasa

I said war ,not battle.
Anyway from what you write,and what it is ,it makes srbja a coward troublemaker, and not warrior nation.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

To Delon,
Austro-Hungarian invasion of Serbia, August 1914. The Battle of Cer, Mountain .Serbia won that battle .
Then it required , Ottoman Empire , Bulgaria and Austria-Hungary Empire to attack again in 1915,small Serbia.
3 big Empire to hang up on little Serbia.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

To Delon,
Austro-Hungarian invasion of Serbia, August 1914 ,start The Great War ,later ,World War 1. The Battle of Cer, Mountain .Serbia won that battle and shocked the world )))
Then it required , Ottoman Empire , Germany Empire , Bulgaria and Austria-Hungary Empire to attack again in 1915,small Serbia.
3 big Empire,plus a country to gang up on little Serbia.
Still ,little Serbia stood and finally won in 1918.
You need to Learn history Delon ,
Particularly the first battle of World War 1 .It is known as the biggest shock of history ,that a huge Empire had lost to little country.

We Serbians only ask Russian Brothers for help when we get attacked by more than 5 big countries.
1 on 1 countries ,Serbs are always willing to fight any country that wants to invade us.
PS we had defeated Bulgaria invasion in 1913 ,in the Balkan war.😀
Learn history ,before commenting )))

delon

pre 7 godina

sj
All I am politely asking, name only ONE war that regular SRB ARMY vs ANY REGULAR ARMY of another country, that Srps had victory, without OUTSIDE interface.
Is that too much?!

sj

pre 7 godina

can you please list there any ,and I mean any war that srps have won ALONE, against any regular ARMY of any country ,not against CIVILIAVS,
Please, srp army victory against any other army in the history that we know ?
Waiting to read what you will write...
(delon, 8 February 2017 01:07)

Read some history and you will be pleasantly surprised.

delon

pre 7 godina

@ sj
can you please list there any ,and I mean any war that srps have won ALONE, against any regular ARMY of any country ,not against CIVILIAVS,
Please, srp army victory against any other army in the history that we know ?
Waiting to read what you will write...

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Albanians are so naïve, they really cant see the new world has begun and its led by Russia and china.turkey is out of nato and don't want to be in the EU no more,they have joined Russia and china,the same with the Philippines who threw out the Americans completely out of the country and Russia and china are investing there and so many other nations around the world. America is a puppet nation that's it.so to you Albanians start the war in Kosovo if you are so powerful.as nato said don't play with Serbia they will take Kosovo in 2 hours are less.they said it yesterday.you could see it on my post from land swap on here. America cant even get their war planes up because of money problems and the British ships are so loud the Russian subs could here them 100 miles away lol its all on the other post with land swap.Serbia its time for you to have bigger families again because there is so much investments coming and already begun, like the Chinese bank and their 4 billion dollar investment also turkey, Russia, India and many others and ikea is opening 2 massive stores and so much more, construction is threw the roof there now.New world is here and its led by Russia and china. End of story. Serbia is Centerport for china. Have more kids for the future of Serbia, let the Albanians talk and whine its a good laugh for everyone. While their minds are set 50 years ago Serb peoples mind set should be for tomorrow.EU is done.
(NWO, 7 February 2017 16:47)

To NWD ,
You are spot on !

Darko

pre 7 godina

"I deliberately chose such strong imagery, I wanted to direct the public attention to the Balkans - because I have a feeling that, for various reasons, something's brewing over there at this moment".
Thanks Captain Obvious - you're a genius..

Mark.W

pre 7 godina

The thought of EU (= German) hegemony over the western Balkans is very disturbing. Serbs combatted German hegemony before, be prepared to do it again.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 7 February 2017 12:12)

The thought of Serbia hegemony over the western Balkans is very disturbing.
Croats, Bosnians and Kosovo Albanians combatted Serbian hegemony before, be prepared to do it again.

sj

pre 7 godina

(TheInconvenitentTruth, 7 February 2017 15:20)


War? What war? I have not advocated war. The best victory is one where not even a dingle shot is fired. Its Albanians like you that are constantly threatening war at every turn. Its always the ones who have never tasted victory on their own that beat their chests. Here is some advice, if there is a next war NATO will not be there and no more Albanians.
The times are changing so get wit the program.

rote

pre 7 godina

While Russias in Russia are starving?
I guess anything goes in a banana republic of Putin.

(Guest)

Wake up amigo!
Russia is a peaceful state.
Even if we starve we stay firm where we are.
It's hard to starve with some USD 500
in two Sovereign funds and the Central Bank.
But if you want to think so I pity you.
Sure we have many problems
But it's a different level of problems.
If the sanctions are good for us or not?
If we must occupy Ukraine?
If we are to be tough with Trump?
If we must help EU to die sooner?
If we must give Buelorussia USD 70 price for natural gas?
If we are to replace this liberastic government?
If we are to credit our business at lower stakes?
How to end war in Syria?
ect. ect.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Hitler to the Rescue ???

Just listen to this German " Thanks to USA and Bill Clinton for the murder of Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans ! So maybe Nazi Germany is the remedy for the Bloody Balkans ? Germany always with such bloody hands and a clean conscience ! Srbija better be very carefull what is does, how it chooses the path of its Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodox humanity ! Russia is the only benevolent choice for Srbija, the only chance for Liberty and Freedom !!!

NWO

pre 7 godina

Albanians are so naïve, they really cant see the new world has begun and its led by Russia and china.turkey is out of nato and don't want to be in the EU no more,they have joined Russia and china,the same with the Philippines who threw out the Americans completely out of the country and Russia and china are investing there and so many other nations around the world. America is a puppet nation that's it.so to you Albanians start the war in Kosovo if you are so powerful.as nato said don't play with Serbia they will take Kosovo in 2 hours are less.they said it yesterday.you could see it on my post from land swap on here. America cant even get their war planes up because of money problems and the British ships are so loud the Russian subs could here them 100 miles away lol its all on the other post with land swap.Serbia its time for you to have bigger families again because there is so much investments coming and already begun, like the Chinese bank and their 4 billion dollar investment also turkey, Russia, India and many others and ikea is opening 2 massive stores and so much more, construction is threw the roof there now.New world is here and its led by Russia and china. End of story. Serbia is Centerport for china. Have more kids for the future of Serbia, let the Albanians talk and whine its a good laugh for everyone. While their minds are set 50 years ago Serb peoples mind set should be for tomorrow.EU is done.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 7 godina

EU That is Germany,
who will support Austria and Croatia coming for Bosnia and Hercegovina,
Support Hungary coming for Vojvodina,
support Albania coming for Kosovo.

Bevere and Spremte se Spremte.

Arn.Sweden.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Russia is a dead beat horse. You mean to tell us Russia is the only one who can afford to come around Balkans?
While Russias in Russia are starving?
I guess anything goes in a banana republic of Putin.
EU is very much involved in Balkans. Serbs have taught EU a lesson. That is, you leave it up to us, and we will kill all of our neighbors. EU is not going anywhere, and what's worse is that majority of serbs still want to join EU.
(Guest, 7 February 2017 13:14)

Yes Guest ,them Beautiful model looking Russian women are starving to look thin ))).
You forgot ,China and Turkey are starving too ,but their all coming to the Serbia to invest and will.be influencing their input to the Balkans.
No need to worry ,your Shqips will get support from Russia ,Turkey and China , Ahaha
PS ,big government changing's in Hungary ,Bulgaria and now Romania ,will see the Russians back in the Balkans )))

TheInconvenitentTruth

pre 7 godina

@sj

I have always thought that people are against war.
The mirror in which you see the world reflected is called war.
A wise man oncee wrote:
“The wisest were just the poor and simple people. They knew the war to be a misfortune, whereas those who were better off, and should have been able to see more clearly what the consequences would be, were beside themselves with joy and glee.”


You see tovarisch, if you want war, you will get war. People like you need to die, so that more reasonable people get in charge.

War seems to be to warlkike people like a cleansing experience. Once the trash dies, the more reasonable people get in charge. Not for long, but thats how peace seems to work. Through periods.

Just know one thing, if something extreme happens and for some reason you lose a war, dont come here crying about how the others killed your people.

Contractor

pre 7 godina

What was missing from this publication of the interview is that :

"No country is going to join the EU in the next 10-15 years"

Was this intentionally left out? Personally I think it will be 20-25 years without a single new member in the EU. So the Balkan countries don't have to worry too much in the near future.

EU Dude

pre 7 godina

Does Ulrich Ladurner mention any Balkan countries in particular? How about Romania and Bulgaria, corrupt & mega corrupt EU member states that should never have been let in the first place? It's not as if joining the EU combated poverty there effectively unless you count droves heading to western Europe to work as nannies, cleaner, builders and less salubrious employment.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Guest, 7 February 2017 13:14)

Yeah I know the Russians are starving and Russia is a banana republic and its broke. If I have missed out on anything please feel free to add on.
The EU is screwed big time. Its like the US in deep doo doo. The US is 400% of GDP in debt, its military is running on empty since they are operating old equipment that should have been replaced years ago. The air force is cannibalising aircraft to keep fighters up in the air while at least 2/3 of Navy aircraft are inoperable due to lack of cash to make repairs.
To give you a hint on how things are going in the EU economy, Brussels was supposed to stop printing euors next month, but they have now extended it to December 2017.
I hate to burst your bubble, but Moscow is a coming to the Balkans ready or not. It all to do with power mate. Look south stream is back on track after all that huffing and puffing because the EU is dead without Russian energy.
Actually the majority of Serbs have no interest in joining the EU. That’s just government spin nothing more. These surveys are laughable. It’s the Albanians who think there is a pot of gold under every bush that are salivating at the thought of joining.

Guest

pre 7 godina

@SJ

Russia is a dead beat horse. You mean to tell us Russia is the only one who can afford to come around Balkans?
While Russias in Russia are starving?
I guess anything goes in a banana republic of Putin.
EU is very much involved in Balkans. Serbs have taught EU a lesson. That is, you leave it up to us, and we will kill all of our neighbors. EU is not going anywhere, and what's worse is that majority of serbs still want to join EU.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

Two things. Firstly, when a US president isn't interested in his own neighbours it's no surprise that small countries thousands of miles away fail to pique his interest. Secondly, I find myself, an Englishman, standing up for Germany. They have poured tens of millions of Euros into the Balkans and if people there (and in the UK for that matter) copied their work ethic we would all be better off.

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 7 godina

The thought of EU (= German) hegemony over the western Balkans is very disturbing. Serbs combatted German hegemony before, be prepared to do it again.

sj

pre 7 godina

Trump has more pressing problems at hand starting with the US massive debt and the current state of infrastructure and poor standing of its military. Having said that Russia is more than just interested in the Balkans since they see as of vital importance.

As far as the EU aka Germany keeping anyone out, they are in for a fun time trying. The Russians are coming and no one is going to stop them. South stream is back and construction has recommenced. How the times are changing.

NWO

pre 7 godina

Albanians are so naïve, they really cant see the new world has begun and its led by Russia and china.turkey is out of nato and don't want to be in the EU no more,they have joined Russia and china,the same with the Philippines who threw out the Americans completely out of the country and Russia and china are investing there and so many other nations around the world. America is a puppet nation that's it.so to you Albanians start the war in Kosovo if you are so powerful.as nato said don't play with Serbia they will take Kosovo in 2 hours are less.they said it yesterday.you could see it on my post from land swap on here. America cant even get their war planes up because of money problems and the British ships are so loud the Russian subs could here them 100 miles away lol its all on the other post with land swap.Serbia its time for you to have bigger families again because there is so much investments coming and already begun, like the Chinese bank and their 4 billion dollar investment also turkey, Russia, India and many others and ikea is opening 2 massive stores and so much more, construction is threw the roof there now.New world is here and its led by Russia and china. End of story. Serbia is Centerport for china. Have more kids for the future of Serbia, let the Albanians talk and whine its a good laugh for everyone. While their minds are set 50 years ago Serb peoples mind set should be for tomorrow.EU is done.

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 7 godina

The thought of EU (= German) hegemony over the western Balkans is very disturbing. Serbs combatted German hegemony before, be prepared to do it again.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Guest, 7 February 2017 13:14)

Yeah I know the Russians are starving and Russia is a banana republic and its broke. If I have missed out on anything please feel free to add on.
The EU is screwed big time. Its like the US in deep doo doo. The US is 400% of GDP in debt, its military is running on empty since they are operating old equipment that should have been replaced years ago. The air force is cannibalising aircraft to keep fighters up in the air while at least 2/3 of Navy aircraft are inoperable due to lack of cash to make repairs.
To give you a hint on how things are going in the EU economy, Brussels was supposed to stop printing euors next month, but they have now extended it to December 2017.
I hate to burst your bubble, but Moscow is a coming to the Balkans ready or not. It all to do with power mate. Look south stream is back on track after all that huffing and puffing because the EU is dead without Russian energy.
Actually the majority of Serbs have no interest in joining the EU. That’s just government spin nothing more. These surveys are laughable. It’s the Albanians who think there is a pot of gold under every bush that are salivating at the thought of joining.

sj

pre 7 godina

Trump has more pressing problems at hand starting with the US massive debt and the current state of infrastructure and poor standing of its military. Having said that Russia is more than just interested in the Balkans since they see as of vital importance.

As far as the EU aka Germany keeping anyone out, they are in for a fun time trying. The Russians are coming and no one is going to stop them. South stream is back and construction has recommenced. How the times are changing.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Russia is a dead beat horse. You mean to tell us Russia is the only one who can afford to come around Balkans?
While Russias in Russia are starving?
I guess anything goes in a banana republic of Putin.
EU is very much involved in Balkans. Serbs have taught EU a lesson. That is, you leave it up to us, and we will kill all of our neighbors. EU is not going anywhere, and what's worse is that majority of serbs still want to join EU.
(Guest, 7 February 2017 13:14)

Yes Guest ,them Beautiful model looking Russian women are starving to look thin ))).
You forgot ,China and Turkey are starving too ,but their all coming to the Serbia to invest and will.be influencing their input to the Balkans.
No need to worry ,your Shqips will get support from Russia ,Turkey and China , Ahaha
PS ,big government changing's in Hungary ,Bulgaria and now Romania ,will see the Russians back in the Balkans )))

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Hitler to the Rescue ???

Just listen to this German " Thanks to USA and Bill Clinton for the murder of Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans ! So maybe Nazi Germany is the remedy for the Bloody Balkans ? Germany always with such bloody hands and a clean conscience ! Srbija better be very carefull what is does, how it chooses the path of its Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodox humanity ! Russia is the only benevolent choice for Srbija, the only chance for Liberty and Freedom !!!

EU Dude

pre 7 godina

Does Ulrich Ladurner mention any Balkan countries in particular? How about Romania and Bulgaria, corrupt & mega corrupt EU member states that should never have been let in the first place? It's not as if joining the EU combated poverty there effectively unless you count droves heading to western Europe to work as nannies, cleaner, builders and less salubrious employment.

sj

pre 7 godina

(TheInconvenitentTruth, 7 February 2017 15:20)


War? What war? I have not advocated war. The best victory is one where not even a dingle shot is fired. Its Albanians like you that are constantly threatening war at every turn. Its always the ones who have never tasted victory on their own that beat their chests. Here is some advice, if there is a next war NATO will not be there and no more Albanians.
The times are changing so get wit the program.

Contractor

pre 7 godina

What was missing from this publication of the interview is that :

"No country is going to join the EU in the next 10-15 years"

Was this intentionally left out? Personally I think it will be 20-25 years without a single new member in the EU. So the Balkan countries don't have to worry too much in the near future.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

To Delon,
Austro-Hungarian invasion of Serbia, August 1914. The Battle of Cer, Mountain .Serbia won that battle .
Then it required , Ottoman Empire , Bulgaria and Austria-Hungary Empire to attack again in 1915,small Serbia.
3 big Empire to hang up on little Serbia.

Guest

pre 7 godina

@SJ

Russia is a dead beat horse. You mean to tell us Russia is the only one who can afford to come around Balkans?
While Russias in Russia are starving?
I guess anything goes in a banana republic of Putin.
EU is very much involved in Balkans. Serbs have taught EU a lesson. That is, you leave it up to us, and we will kill all of our neighbors. EU is not going anywhere, and what's worse is that majority of serbs still want to join EU.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 7 godina

EU That is Germany,
who will support Austria and Croatia coming for Bosnia and Hercegovina,
Support Hungary coming for Vojvodina,
support Albania coming for Kosovo.

Bevere and Spremte se Spremte.

Arn.Sweden.

rote

pre 7 godina

While Russias in Russia are starving?
I guess anything goes in a banana republic of Putin.

(Guest)

Wake up amigo!
Russia is a peaceful state.
Even if we starve we stay firm where we are.
It's hard to starve with some USD 500
in two Sovereign funds and the Central Bank.
But if you want to think so I pity you.
Sure we have many problems
But it's a different level of problems.
If the sanctions are good for us or not?
If we must occupy Ukraine?
If we are to be tough with Trump?
If we must help EU to die sooner?
If we must give Buelorussia USD 70 price for natural gas?
If we are to replace this liberastic government?
If we are to credit our business at lower stakes?
How to end war in Syria?
ect. ect.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

To Delon,
Austro-Hungarian invasion of Serbia, August 1914 ,start The Great War ,later ,World War 1. The Battle of Cer, Mountain .Serbia won that battle and shocked the world )))
Then it required , Ottoman Empire , Germany Empire , Bulgaria and Austria-Hungary Empire to attack again in 1915,small Serbia.
3 big Empire,plus a country to gang up on little Serbia.
Still ,little Serbia stood and finally won in 1918.
You need to Learn history Delon ,
Particularly the first battle of World War 1 .It is known as the biggest shock of history ,that a huge Empire had lost to little country.

We Serbians only ask Russian Brothers for help when we get attacked by more than 5 big countries.
1 on 1 countries ,Serbs are always willing to fight any country that wants to invade us.
PS we had defeated Bulgaria invasion in 1913 ,in the Balkan war.😀
Learn history ,before commenting )))

TheInconvenitentTruth

pre 7 godina

@sj

I have always thought that people are against war.
The mirror in which you see the world reflected is called war.
A wise man oncee wrote:
“The wisest were just the poor and simple people. They knew the war to be a misfortune, whereas those who were better off, and should have been able to see more clearly what the consequences would be, were beside themselves with joy and glee.”


You see tovarisch, if you want war, you will get war. People like you need to die, so that more reasonable people get in charge.

War seems to be to warlkike people like a cleansing experience. Once the trash dies, the more reasonable people get in charge. Not for long, but thats how peace seems to work. Through periods.

Just know one thing, if something extreme happens and for some reason you lose a war, dont come here crying about how the others killed your people.

Mark.W

pre 7 godina

The thought of EU (= German) hegemony over the western Balkans is very disturbing. Serbs combatted German hegemony before, be prepared to do it again.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 7 February 2017 12:12)

The thought of Serbia hegemony over the western Balkans is very disturbing.
Croats, Bosnians and Kosovo Albanians combatted Serbian hegemony before, be prepared to do it again.

sj

pre 7 godina

can you please list there any ,and I mean any war that srps have won ALONE, against any regular ARMY of any country ,not against CIVILIAVS,
Please, srp army victory against any other army in the history that we know ?
Waiting to read what you will write...
(delon, 8 February 2017 01:07)

Read some history and you will be pleasantly surprised.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

Two things. Firstly, when a US president isn't interested in his own neighbours it's no surprise that small countries thousands of miles away fail to pique his interest. Secondly, I find myself, an Englishman, standing up for Germany. They have poured tens of millions of Euros into the Balkans and if people there (and in the UK for that matter) copied their work ethic we would all be better off.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Albanians are so naïve, they really cant see the new world has begun and its led by Russia and china.turkey is out of nato and don't want to be in the EU no more,they have joined Russia and china,the same with the Philippines who threw out the Americans completely out of the country and Russia and china are investing there and so many other nations around the world. America is a puppet nation that's it.so to you Albanians start the war in Kosovo if you are so powerful.as nato said don't play with Serbia they will take Kosovo in 2 hours are less.they said it yesterday.you could see it on my post from land swap on here. America cant even get their war planes up because of money problems and the British ships are so loud the Russian subs could here them 100 miles away lol its all on the other post with land swap.Serbia its time for you to have bigger families again because there is so much investments coming and already begun, like the Chinese bank and their 4 billion dollar investment also turkey, Russia, India and many others and ikea is opening 2 massive stores and so much more, construction is threw the roof there now.New world is here and its led by Russia and china. End of story. Serbia is Centerport for china. Have more kids for the future of Serbia, let the Albanians talk and whine its a good laugh for everyone. While their minds are set 50 years ago Serb peoples mind set should be for tomorrow.EU is done.
(NWO, 7 February 2017 16:47)

To NWD ,
You are spot on !

delon

pre 7 godina

@ sj
can you please list there any ,and I mean any war that srps have won ALONE, against any regular ARMY of any country ,not against CIVILIAVS,
Please, srp army victory against any other army in the history that we know ?
Waiting to read what you will write...

delon

pre 7 godina

sj
All I am politely asking, name only ONE war that regular SRB ARMY vs ANY REGULAR ARMY of another country, that Srps had victory, without OUTSIDE interface.
Is that too much?!

delon

pre 7 godina

Sasa

I said war ,not battle.
Anyway from what you write,and what it is ,it makes srbja a coward troublemaker, and not warrior nation.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Sasa

I said war ,not battle.
Anyway from what you write,and what it is ,it makes srbja a coward troublemaker, and not warrior nation.
(delon, 8 February 2017 16:33) # Com

To Delon,
You must get a education in history ,Serbia was victories in World War 1 and 2.
As well , majority of Balkan wars in the 1800's.
Serbia ,threw out Ottoman Empire ,Nazi Germany ,Austria -Hungaria Empire , Bulgarian , and even the British (1948,Trieste)out of Yugoslavia.
Delon,you are very uneducated in history ,but Australia only teaches about Captain Cook, Hahaha

rote

pre 7 godina

name only ONE war that regular SRB ARMY vs ANY REGULAR ARMY of another country, that Srps had victory, without OUTSIDE interface. Is that too much?! (delon)

No problems my friend ! In 1944 when the Soviet Army reached Yugoslavia the Germans and their allies controlled about 10% of the territory including Belgrade. Should they have an experience and ammunition for seizinf such a big city who knows they could leave theSoviets jobless. As you must know together with their Montenegrin branch Serbs made up to 90% of the two Yugoslavian armies. Outside Yugoslavia the partizans were in Greece and a bit in Albania. So during WW2 the partisan movement on the Balkans in a great degree was a Serbian movement. Then the Romanians and the Bulgarians joined us in 1944. But before that for the long 3 years the USSR had no brothers in arms other than the 2 Serbian armies. They suffered second big combat losses after the USSR. Europe hates us because their fathers and granfathers were defeated by the Serbs/Russians. The US coalition joined us only 11 months before WW2 was ended. Since March 1945 the Hitlerists stopped to resist in the west and sent all survived troops to the eastern front. So the allies drived along the autobans while the Soviets crawled on their bellies. Anyways Serbs set their Yugoslavia free by themselves. Write it on your nose. It saved plenty of our lives. Combat losses of the USSR in Poland exceeded 600 000 while in Yugoslavia it was 7900 ...

factman

pre 7 godina

It's true. America does not care anymore.

And as a result, the balance of power in the region simply returns back to its historical norm.

If you think Germany will now become muscular in the region and fill the void, then you are not aware of the spirit of the times. Germans don't really car either.

Serbia has a great opportunity to become responsible and a real leader in the region. I hope it puts its best foot forward and steps up to the plate.

sj

pre 7 godina

All I am politely asking, name only ONE war that regular SRB ARMY vs ANY REGULAR ARMY of another country, that Srps had victory, without OUTSIDE interface.
Is that too much?!
(delon, 8 February 2017 14:23)

I won’t wade through history, but will only mention the battles of Kolubara and Cer where Serbs defeated the Austrians which is a considerable feat when taking into account that such a small army defeated an Empire. If Germany and allies had not come in on the side of Austria, the Empire would have collapsed there and then.
German Field Marshal Anton Ludwig August von Mackensen was in command of Germany’s Eleventh Army, Austro-Hungarian Third Army, and Bulgarian First Army and tasked with the taking Belgrade and he did not take it easily, but seer numbers meant Belgrade fell.
Upon entering it, Field Marshal Mackensen erected a monument to the Serbian soldiers who died defending their capital with the inscription -HIER RUHEN SERBISCHE HELDEN- - "Here rest Serbian heroes", both in German and Serbian. It says a lot when your enemy does that. That monument is still in Belgrade and located in Topcidar Park.
Now what have you Albanians done?

Arn.Sweden.

pre 7 godina

I Quote -

(delon, 8 February 2017 16:33).

Comment -
You know nothing about Serbia,
as a Warrior Nation or,
the Serbians as Warriors but,
You will soon Learn about it..

Arn.Sweden.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Read some history and you will be pleasantly surprised.
(sj, 8 February 2017 10:20)
===========================
I don't think it will be a pleasant surprise at all, more of a shock to the system.

factman

pre 7 godina

PS:

Note to Belgrade.

Now is the time to slowly begin developing a pro-American policy position. Soon it will be time to start leaning the other way.

Darko

pre 7 godina

"I deliberately chose such strong imagery, I wanted to direct the public attention to the Balkans - because I have a feeling that, for various reasons, something's brewing over there at this moment".
Thanks Captain Obvious - you're a genius..

Guest

pre 7 godina

@SJ

Russia is a dead beat horse. You mean to tell us Russia is the only one who can afford to come around Balkans?
While Russias in Russia are starving?
I guess anything goes in a banana republic of Putin.
EU is very much involved in Balkans. Serbs have taught EU a lesson. That is, you leave it up to us, and we will kill all of our neighbors. EU is not going anywhere, and what's worse is that majority of serbs still want to join EU.

sj

pre 7 godina

Trump has more pressing problems at hand starting with the US massive debt and the current state of infrastructure and poor standing of its military. Having said that Russia is more than just interested in the Balkans since they see as of vital importance.

As far as the EU aka Germany keeping anyone out, they are in for a fun time trying. The Russians are coming and no one is going to stop them. South stream is back and construction has recommenced. How the times are changing.

Mark.W

pre 7 godina

The thought of EU (= German) hegemony over the western Balkans is very disturbing. Serbs combatted German hegemony before, be prepared to do it again.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 7 February 2017 12:12)

The thought of Serbia hegemony over the western Balkans is very disturbing.
Croats, Bosnians and Kosovo Albanians combatted Serbian hegemony before, be prepared to do it again.

TheInconvenitentTruth

pre 7 godina

@sj

I have always thought that people are against war.
The mirror in which you see the world reflected is called war.
A wise man oncee wrote:
“The wisest were just the poor and simple people. They knew the war to be a misfortune, whereas those who were better off, and should have been able to see more clearly what the consequences would be, were beside themselves with joy and glee.”


You see tovarisch, if you want war, you will get war. People like you need to die, so that more reasonable people get in charge.

War seems to be to warlkike people like a cleansing experience. Once the trash dies, the more reasonable people get in charge. Not for long, but thats how peace seems to work. Through periods.

Just know one thing, if something extreme happens and for some reason you lose a war, dont come here crying about how the others killed your people.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

Two things. Firstly, when a US president isn't interested in his own neighbours it's no surprise that small countries thousands of miles away fail to pique his interest. Secondly, I find myself, an Englishman, standing up for Germany. They have poured tens of millions of Euros into the Balkans and if people there (and in the UK for that matter) copied their work ethic we would all be better off.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Hitler to the Rescue ???

Just listen to this German " Thanks to USA and Bill Clinton for the murder of Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans ! So maybe Nazi Germany is the remedy for the Bloody Balkans ? Germany always with such bloody hands and a clean conscience ! Srbija better be very carefull what is does, how it chooses the path of its Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodox humanity ! Russia is the only benevolent choice for Srbija, the only chance for Liberty and Freedom !!!

NWO

pre 7 godina

Albanians are so naïve, they really cant see the new world has begun and its led by Russia and china.turkey is out of nato and don't want to be in the EU no more,they have joined Russia and china,the same with the Philippines who threw out the Americans completely out of the country and Russia and china are investing there and so many other nations around the world. America is a puppet nation that's it.so to you Albanians start the war in Kosovo if you are so powerful.as nato said don't play with Serbia they will take Kosovo in 2 hours are less.they said it yesterday.you could see it on my post from land swap on here. America cant even get their war planes up because of money problems and the British ships are so loud the Russian subs could here them 100 miles away lol its all on the other post with land swap.Serbia its time for you to have bigger families again because there is so much investments coming and already begun, like the Chinese bank and their 4 billion dollar investment also turkey, Russia, India and many others and ikea is opening 2 massive stores and so much more, construction is threw the roof there now.New world is here and its led by Russia and china. End of story. Serbia is Centerport for china. Have more kids for the future of Serbia, let the Albanians talk and whine its a good laugh for everyone. While their minds are set 50 years ago Serb peoples mind set should be for tomorrow.EU is done.

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 7 godina

The thought of EU (= German) hegemony over the western Balkans is very disturbing. Serbs combatted German hegemony before, be prepared to do it again.

delon

pre 7 godina

@ sj
can you please list there any ,and I mean any war that srps have won ALONE, against any regular ARMY of any country ,not against CIVILIAVS,
Please, srp army victory against any other army in the history that we know ?
Waiting to read what you will write...

sj

pre 7 godina

(Guest, 7 February 2017 13:14)

Yeah I know the Russians are starving and Russia is a banana republic and its broke. If I have missed out on anything please feel free to add on.
The EU is screwed big time. Its like the US in deep doo doo. The US is 400% of GDP in debt, its military is running on empty since they are operating old equipment that should have been replaced years ago. The air force is cannibalising aircraft to keep fighters up in the air while at least 2/3 of Navy aircraft are inoperable due to lack of cash to make repairs.
To give you a hint on how things are going in the EU economy, Brussels was supposed to stop printing euors next month, but they have now extended it to December 2017.
I hate to burst your bubble, but Moscow is a coming to the Balkans ready or not. It all to do with power mate. Look south stream is back on track after all that huffing and puffing because the EU is dead without Russian energy.
Actually the majority of Serbs have no interest in joining the EU. That’s just government spin nothing more. These surveys are laughable. It’s the Albanians who think there is a pot of gold under every bush that are salivating at the thought of joining.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Russia is a dead beat horse. You mean to tell us Russia is the only one who can afford to come around Balkans?
While Russias in Russia are starving?
I guess anything goes in a banana republic of Putin.
EU is very much involved in Balkans. Serbs have taught EU a lesson. That is, you leave it up to us, and we will kill all of our neighbors. EU is not going anywhere, and what's worse is that majority of serbs still want to join EU.
(Guest, 7 February 2017 13:14)

Yes Guest ,them Beautiful model looking Russian women are starving to look thin ))).
You forgot ,China and Turkey are starving too ,but their all coming to the Serbia to invest and will.be influencing their input to the Balkans.
No need to worry ,your Shqips will get support from Russia ,Turkey and China , Ahaha
PS ,big government changing's in Hungary ,Bulgaria and now Romania ,will see the Russians back in the Balkans )))

Arn.Sweden.

pre 7 godina

EU That is Germany,
who will support Austria and Croatia coming for Bosnia and Hercegovina,
Support Hungary coming for Vojvodina,
support Albania coming for Kosovo.

Bevere and Spremte se Spremte.

Arn.Sweden.

sj

pre 7 godina

(TheInconvenitentTruth, 7 February 2017 15:20)


War? What war? I have not advocated war. The best victory is one where not even a dingle shot is fired. Its Albanians like you that are constantly threatening war at every turn. Its always the ones who have never tasted victory on their own that beat their chests. Here is some advice, if there is a next war NATO will not be there and no more Albanians.
The times are changing so get wit the program.

delon

pre 7 godina

sj
All I am politely asking, name only ONE war that regular SRB ARMY vs ANY REGULAR ARMY of another country, that Srps had victory, without OUTSIDE interface.
Is that too much?!

delon

pre 7 godina

Sasa

I said war ,not battle.
Anyway from what you write,and what it is ,it makes srbja a coward troublemaker, and not warrior nation.

rote

pre 7 godina

While Russias in Russia are starving?
I guess anything goes in a banana republic of Putin.

(Guest)

Wake up amigo!
Russia is a peaceful state.
Even if we starve we stay firm where we are.
It's hard to starve with some USD 500
in two Sovereign funds and the Central Bank.
But if you want to think so I pity you.
Sure we have many problems
But it's a different level of problems.
If the sanctions are good for us or not?
If we must occupy Ukraine?
If we are to be tough with Trump?
If we must help EU to die sooner?
If we must give Buelorussia USD 70 price for natural gas?
If we are to replace this liberastic government?
If we are to credit our business at lower stakes?
How to end war in Syria?
ect. ect.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Albanians are so naïve, they really cant see the new world has begun and its led by Russia and china.turkey is out of nato and don't want to be in the EU no more,they have joined Russia and china,the same with the Philippines who threw out the Americans completely out of the country and Russia and china are investing there and so many other nations around the world. America is a puppet nation that's it.so to you Albanians start the war in Kosovo if you are so powerful.as nato said don't play with Serbia they will take Kosovo in 2 hours are less.they said it yesterday.you could see it on my post from land swap on here. America cant even get their war planes up because of money problems and the British ships are so loud the Russian subs could here them 100 miles away lol its all on the other post with land swap.Serbia its time for you to have bigger families again because there is so much investments coming and already begun, like the Chinese bank and their 4 billion dollar investment also turkey, Russia, India and many others and ikea is opening 2 massive stores and so much more, construction is threw the roof there now.New world is here and its led by Russia and china. End of story. Serbia is Centerport for china. Have more kids for the future of Serbia, let the Albanians talk and whine its a good laugh for everyone. While their minds are set 50 years ago Serb peoples mind set should be for tomorrow.EU is done.
(NWO, 7 February 2017 16:47)

To NWD ,
You are spot on !

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

To Delon,
Austro-Hungarian invasion of Serbia, August 1914 ,start The Great War ,later ,World War 1. The Battle of Cer, Mountain .Serbia won that battle and shocked the world )))
Then it required , Ottoman Empire , Germany Empire , Bulgaria and Austria-Hungary Empire to attack again in 1915,small Serbia.
3 big Empire,plus a country to gang up on little Serbia.
Still ,little Serbia stood and finally won in 1918.
You need to Learn history Delon ,
Particularly the first battle of World War 1 .It is known as the biggest shock of history ,that a huge Empire had lost to little country.

We Serbians only ask Russian Brothers for help when we get attacked by more than 5 big countries.
1 on 1 countries ,Serbs are always willing to fight any country that wants to invade us.
PS we had defeated Bulgaria invasion in 1913 ,in the Balkan war.😀
Learn history ,before commenting )))

Contractor

pre 7 godina

What was missing from this publication of the interview is that :

"No country is going to join the EU in the next 10-15 years"

Was this intentionally left out? Personally I think it will be 20-25 years without a single new member in the EU. So the Balkan countries don't have to worry too much in the near future.

sj

pre 7 godina

can you please list there any ,and I mean any war that srps have won ALONE, against any regular ARMY of any country ,not against CIVILIAVS,
Please, srp army victory against any other army in the history that we know ?
Waiting to read what you will write...
(delon, 8 February 2017 01:07)

Read some history and you will be pleasantly surprised.

rote

pre 7 godina

name only ONE war that regular SRB ARMY vs ANY REGULAR ARMY of another country, that Srps had victory, without OUTSIDE interface. Is that too much?! (delon)

No problems my friend ! In 1944 when the Soviet Army reached Yugoslavia the Germans and their allies controlled about 10% of the territory including Belgrade. Should they have an experience and ammunition for seizinf such a big city who knows they could leave theSoviets jobless. As you must know together with their Montenegrin branch Serbs made up to 90% of the two Yugoslavian armies. Outside Yugoslavia the partizans were in Greece and a bit in Albania. So during WW2 the partisan movement on the Balkans in a great degree was a Serbian movement. Then the Romanians and the Bulgarians joined us in 1944. But before that for the long 3 years the USSR had no brothers in arms other than the 2 Serbian armies. They suffered second big combat losses after the USSR. Europe hates us because their fathers and granfathers were defeated by the Serbs/Russians. The US coalition joined us only 11 months before WW2 was ended. Since March 1945 the Hitlerists stopped to resist in the west and sent all survived troops to the eastern front. So the allies drived along the autobans while the Soviets crawled on their bellies. Anyways Serbs set their Yugoslavia free by themselves. Write it on your nose. It saved plenty of our lives. Combat losses of the USSR in Poland exceeded 600 000 while in Yugoslavia it was 7900 ...

sj

pre 7 godina

All I am politely asking, name only ONE war that regular SRB ARMY vs ANY REGULAR ARMY of another country, that Srps had victory, without OUTSIDE interface.
Is that too much?!
(delon, 8 February 2017 14:23)

I won’t wade through history, but will only mention the battles of Kolubara and Cer where Serbs defeated the Austrians which is a considerable feat when taking into account that such a small army defeated an Empire. If Germany and allies had not come in on the side of Austria, the Empire would have collapsed there and then.
German Field Marshal Anton Ludwig August von Mackensen was in command of Germany’s Eleventh Army, Austro-Hungarian Third Army, and Bulgarian First Army and tasked with the taking Belgrade and he did not take it easily, but seer numbers meant Belgrade fell.
Upon entering it, Field Marshal Mackensen erected a monument to the Serbian soldiers who died defending their capital with the inscription -HIER RUHEN SERBISCHE HELDEN- - "Here rest Serbian heroes", both in German and Serbian. It says a lot when your enemy does that. That monument is still in Belgrade and located in Topcidar Park.
Now what have you Albanians done?

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

To Delon,
Austro-Hungarian invasion of Serbia, August 1914. The Battle of Cer, Mountain .Serbia won that battle .
Then it required , Ottoman Empire , Bulgaria and Austria-Hungary Empire to attack again in 1915,small Serbia.
3 big Empire to hang up on little Serbia.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 7 godina

I Quote -

(delon, 8 February 2017 16:33).

Comment -
You know nothing about Serbia,
as a Warrior Nation or,
the Serbians as Warriors but,
You will soon Learn about it..

Arn.Sweden.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Read some history and you will be pleasantly surprised.
(sj, 8 February 2017 10:20)
===========================
I don't think it will be a pleasant surprise at all, more of a shock to the system.

factman

pre 7 godina

It's true. America does not care anymore.

And as a result, the balance of power in the region simply returns back to its historical norm.

If you think Germany will now become muscular in the region and fill the void, then you are not aware of the spirit of the times. Germans don't really car either.

Serbia has a great opportunity to become responsible and a real leader in the region. I hope it puts its best foot forward and steps up to the plate.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Sasa

I said war ,not battle.
Anyway from what you write,and what it is ,it makes srbja a coward troublemaker, and not warrior nation.
(delon, 8 February 2017 16:33) # Com

To Delon,
You must get a education in history ,Serbia was victories in World War 1 and 2.
As well , majority of Balkan wars in the 1800's.
Serbia ,threw out Ottoman Empire ,Nazi Germany ,Austria -Hungaria Empire , Bulgarian , and even the British (1948,Trieste)out of Yugoslavia.
Delon,you are very uneducated in history ,but Australia only teaches about Captain Cook, Hahaha

EU Dude

pre 7 godina

Does Ulrich Ladurner mention any Balkan countries in particular? How about Romania and Bulgaria, corrupt & mega corrupt EU member states that should never have been let in the first place? It's not as if joining the EU combated poverty there effectively unless you count droves heading to western Europe to work as nannies, cleaner, builders and less salubrious employment.

Darko

pre 7 godina

"I deliberately chose such strong imagery, I wanted to direct the public attention to the Balkans - because I have a feeling that, for various reasons, something's brewing over there at this moment".
Thanks Captain Obvious - you're a genius..

factman

pre 7 godina

PS:

Note to Belgrade.

Now is the time to slowly begin developing a pro-American policy position. Soon it will be time to start leaning the other way.