Nikolic to U.S. ambassador: You've created lots of trouble

Unbelievable, Nikolic is trying to win the next election, thats why he even sent this stupid train, thats all part of his plan.
He wants to win the nationalist vote, by talking about going to war and whatever.

No Serb in Kosovo is threatened or lives in danger and he knows that exactly but he's trying to spread his propaganda.

There are Serbian villages all over Kosovo, many of them for example in Gnjilane, and they live in peace with the Albanians, because he doesn't have the criminal organisations there like in MItrovica that help him to build walls there and cause problems. But I'm sure he won't talk about that.

Once again Politicians are fooling their own nation to stay in power. Please dear Serbian Citizens don't let your self be fooled.
We all just want to live in peace and be part of the EU, and one day if both Countries become part of the EU, there won't be borders anymore, and this finally might bring back the peace to our holy lands.

Sincerely!

@BahriCalm down man! I rarely write comments but everytime I open comment section I see your hate, cruelty and ignorance! I am a doctor in Nis. Do you know how many Albanians from Presevo and Kosovo I meet everyday at my clinic? I help to all people, no matter what religion, name or etc is about that person. We help everyday to lot of Albanians, and here I see your hate and plans about Serbia. Calm down, in Serbia live so many people who have nothing to do with war on Kosovo or Great Serbia. We just want to live better.

Serbia now wants nothern Kosovo....and looking for any excuses and blaming, loves the rhetorics, victimisation and ultemately copycat Crimea scenario. Let's be honest once!

America caused all the problems in the world, they created and are isis allies....they caused wars all over and pinned people to fight each other...including Yugoslavia....but Ukraine is the last stop the new world is here and is led by Russia ,china and their allies world wide...evil old aging America and grandpa nato-EU days are gone....peace on earth is going to be here and business,,,, American propaganda days are gone....and soros lost a billion dollars from his trouble making if you don't know who he is type in his name....George soros....evil days are over....

Every time this guy Nikolic open his mouth shoot him self on the foot. Serbian government brings problems to their own self. They argue with Kosovo, Montenegro, Croatia, Macedonia. Bosnja.

Nikolic the ignorant :

Greater Serbia is trouble.

Starting 4 wars is trouble.

Traditional serb donkey inat is ..

Community of Serb War Criminals in Kosova is nothing BUT trouble...

Serb Terror has historical been trouble.

Russia and Serbia reek TROUBLE.

They (ethic Albanians) consider a train decorated with Serbian markings to be a provocation, and they moved against that train with bombs and rifles, without KFOR's approval. Nobody's asking the question of whether going around Kosovo with the markings of a Greater Albania, and publicly promoting that senseless idea, is a provocation," Nikolic said.

Wrong again Nikolic!
It is serbian nationalism that started the greater Albanian project, 1st to start this Beutiful project was Slobodan Milosevich's with his nationalistic incitement and wars which completely fragmented what was a unified Yugoslavia at the time with each consttuit member seeing Serbia nationalist policies as a direct threat to their very existence!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_Yugoslavia
Now it is going to be the honor of Nikolic to put the final touches on this project by forcefully (with again its nationalistic policies) attaching & fusing
The Republics of Kosova & Albania into 1 Albanian super state!
Don't blame others for your own imposed nationalistic policies Nikolic, no one is buying it!
And by the way, thanks!!!

The president then noted that the Pristina authorities recently prevented him from spending Orthodox Serbian Christmas in Kosovo and Metohija and reminded his interlocutor that "nothing has been done to implement (the agreement on) the Community of Serb Municipalities," adding:

Thank god you admitted publicly that Kosova government denied you entry! Are you still going to sing Kosova je Serbia???

"The president then noted that the Pristina authorities recently prevented him from spending Orthodox Serbian Christmas in Kosovo and Metohija"


Ooooooo, so the original plan was to have Nikolic go to Kosovo aboard the same train.

But when his visit was denied they went ahead and sent some poor Serbs on a train they knew was a big provocation. Same old behavior from Serb government, use common Serbs as cannon fodder for political BS. On another article he says he will fight for Kosovo together with his sons, ha.

I know he is sort of in the middle between Seselj and whoever comes after him, but the sooner Serbs gets rid of this buffoon the better off it will be for everybody.

"They (ethic Albanians) consider a train decorated with Serbian markings to be a provocation, and they moved against that train with bombs and rifles, without KFOR's approval. Nobody's asking the question of whether going around Kosovo with the markings of a Greater Albania, and publicly promoting that senseless idea, is a provocation," Nikolic said.

-- When Prishtina sends a train with those markings to Serbia without even asking anybody in Serbia or coordinating with anyone in Serbia because they feel like it, then you may have a point. Until then, you're just a fool.

Second, I'd like the Serbian perspective on a question. As far as am I aware there is no universal law that bans Serbia from having Russia as an ally. There's also no universal law that prevents Albanians from having allies in the West and the US. How is then that every Serb feels the US should not help us? Why should Serbs always count on Russia's help but Albanians shouldn't count on the help of anyone? What universal law would allow for this? I fail to see any reason or rationality on this Serb request/feeling?

So basically Kyle Scott gave Nikolic a big F U! Lol!!

Serbs get so excited with nothing. Trump doesn't care about the Balkans, much bigger fish to fry in the world. If anything, he will recognize Crimea and Russia will recognize Kosova. Trump isnt forever, 4 or 8 years?? Not enough time for Trump to get caught in a quagmire of pulling out of Kosova and the global firestorm that would ensue when there are so many other pressing issues to deal with. Lastly, Trump has nothing to gain or benefit by giving up support for Kosova and peace in the Balkans. Nothing. Also, Serbs are so stupid to believe Melanie Trump factors into anything. Ideas of Serbias army invading Kosova? These ideas are the ideas of desperate, defeated, morally corrupt people. Politics is a slow process in the world. Balkans is last on Trumps list. Albanians will just continue forward like they have been, slowly but surely securing more and more of Kosova in name, property, world recognition and spirit! That hate that Serbs feel towards Albanians??? That's proof Albanians own you! You can't move on and be happy with your life because you are preoccupied and obsessed with Albanians. Makes me laugh:)

The Republics of Kosova & Albania into 1 Albanian super state!
Peter the Rocky Mountains

super state - LOL! LOL!

There is a problem with your logic, Independent.

"We all just want to live in peace and be part of the EU, and one day if both Countries become part of the EU, there won't be borders anymore, and this finally might bring back the peace to our holy lands. "

We've heard this before, and it really sound nice. So, why can't RS be independent of Bosnia, and when both countries become part of the EU there won't be borders anymore?

Sarajevo would start war!

But, we should not mind, because borders will be erased, and it won't matter anyway.
EU said (ones upon time) that republics of former Yugoslavia cannot be divided, and SUPPORTED WAR efforts aimed at preservation of integrity of former Yugoslavian republics - namely Croatia and Bosnia.
I wouldn't mind if they said republics cannot be divided, and that's it!
Or let's divide republics and allow everyone to live where ever they like, including , let's say Presevo.
But, Croatia went to war over Krajina, and so did Bosnia, but Serbia should be divided, because borders won't even matter?
Flawed logic.

Perhaps the headline should be "Nikolic continues with political campaign, to win the Nationalist vote".

For far to long Balka politicians who have nothing to offer use Nationalisam to get elected or reelection.

Will we ever learn? when are we going to say to this monster we need jobs prosperity and peace?

I don't think you will print this one but here it is my Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters!
Srbija is Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity and we only belong to if any body then to Dear Mother Russia ! So Srbija can become known to all lands and seas again only with the FULL support of Dear Mother Russia ! Nothing ever good came to Srbija and nothing ever will from the USA, England and Germany ! So that is it either we unite with Russia and live or we die with the USA, England and Germany !!!

Ambasador SAD Nikoliću: Izbegavati povišenu retoriku
http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2017&mm=01&dd=17&nav_category=11&nav_id=1221210

it's primitive to explain the scandal only with the election campaingn in serbia because there are other factors seen and some must be under the carpet. one such factor may be the change of the administrations in america. when else toma could afford such sweet words to the ambassador ? serbia has stepped back already but we saw how close to the edge we are and we also heard not a single voice in the favor of the whites. it is new in the behavior of the west and from this point toma's move wasn't vain i think. yet it's time to stop comparing balls and try to find an intermediator. russia is the best candidate i think. we already have such contacts over syria in astana city. tense in relations gives provocateurs a chance to deside everything for you making another war inevitable.

(Hendrix, 18 January 2017 01:08)
Where you see ISIS flavour in Kosovo? Discriminate a ethnic group because of its religion will not help you hiding behind fake CHRISTIANISM, in this world with the open minded Protestants and Catholics.
I will tell you what is a problem for Europe: Someone who threat her stability, economy, life of European people...
And in Europe that is SERBIA!
Muslims in Balkan are all Europeans who were forced to convert because Europe did not help them, i doubt that she will again let them in the hand of Arabs, and try yourself to realize why not!!!
Of course i think Serbia will find support on extremist, but that is not what she need.
Hitler found support to on extremists, ISSIL found support to, Clu Clux Clan found support, but we all know where this bring to.
Attacking and ethnic group using the religion against is the most low this Serbs can make, or is a copy paste from ISISL, so you will have the same fate.
If Serbs continue like this soon or latter there will be a crash even with Catholics or Protestants - with Orthodox church. Remember my words !

After this clown I'm waiting Irinei!
How he miss this time to talk about holy land!
And how to start a war?

“serbia has stepped back already but we saw how close to the edge we are and we also heard not a single voice in the favor of the whites.”
(rote)

Rote, you’re either born an ignorant or you try really hard to maintain that image.
This very article says exactly the opposite of what you’re writing, i.e. US supports Kosovos move, that's why Nikolic is mad. Further more, German Ambassador to Kosovo, Viets:
It is Kosovo’s right to control its borders:
http://koha.net/?id=27&l=152342

Rote, you took the bait, you poor little russian troll.. haha.
I know you like to share your conspiracy theories every now and then, but normally nobody cares.

This time you must have thought you hit the jackpot when Skenderbeu was: "wow really, please tell me more" and you just went all crazy and kept posting sh*t.. priceless :)

Right now I sincerely feel sorry for you.

It's obvious now there will never be a legal community of Serbian municipalities

@Dr from Nis
Hello Dr.
I as well barely write comments, but just wanted to thank you for the work you're doing and sharing your thoughts here.

War sucks and as well nationalism, which is growing in the world again.
So nice to hear people like you that don't let themselves be fooled by politicians. And i know that there are a lot of people like you on both sides, the problem is that these kind of comment sections usually attract the people that are far right to comment.

Wishing you all the best and best regards from an Albanian living in Western Europe.
:)

@ Dr. from Nis

I don`t doubt a second what you said and i support you 100% but there are still Sesejl`s hounds all over the place bragging that Milosevic`s tanks were so "successful" burning down entire villages.

Of course, i`m not saying is good to scratch old wounds but the real menance are not "keyboard warriors" who "fight" each other from Australia, US or Russia. The real threat are warmonger politicians.

This is too much information for my poor arnaut head Rote but I like them and I will read them. How do you know that sultans spoke serbian church language? When you find some time of course and now it is too late.

Albanians own you! You can't move on and be happy with your life because you are preoccupied and obsessed with Albanians. Makes me laugh:)
(Captain Kosova, 17 January 2017 20:11)

Is that why a Serbian site is being flooded by Albanians?? You sure it's not the other way around

@BahriCalm down man! I rarely write comments but everytime I open comment section I see your hate, cruelty and ignorance! I am a doctor in Nis. Do you know how many Albanians from Presevo and Kosovo I meet everyday at my clinic? I help to all people, no matter what religion, name or etc is about that person. We help everyday to lot of Albanians, and here I see your hate and plans about Serbia. Calm down, in Serbia live so many people who have nothing to do with war on Kosovo or Great Serbia. We just want to live better.
(Dr from Nis, 17 January 2017 18:21)

Dr from Nis,

Great point as well many Serbs live in Kosovo normally, just that this forum has far right from both sides Serb and Albanians.

The issue is that most do not like to hear the other side, I commend you for doing the right thing.

We've heard this before, and it really sound nice. So, why can't RS be independent of Bosnia, and when both countries become part of the EU there won't be borders anymore?

-- Sreten, I think RS can become independent. The problem is Serbia. On the one hand it claims this unchangeable God given principle of "territorial integrity" when it comes to Kosova. On the other hand it flirts with the idea of an independent RS; stomping on the very same "unchangeable God given principle" of territorial integrity. It is precisely at this point that Serbia is uncovered and it becomes the emporor with no clothes.Its principles are just BS. So Serbia still has a window when it can decide, because clinging to the idea of Kosova will not make RS independent. It goes against it's very own claimed "principle". So once it has signed on to Kosova's Independence then RS Independence becomes not such a far fetched possibility. All it needs to do is replace Dodik with a fresh face and a somewhat decent politician who is way less corrupt than Dodik. But sitting with one bu++cheek on the territorial integrity chair and the other by++cheek on the independence chair will not get RS it's Independence. That's actually how Serbia is preparing itself to get shafted. You must choose. Which chair do you wanna sit on.

That's the point Rote: it is so strange that some nations appear to pop up from nothing in late 16th 17th centuries. Also if it is true what we've been told that the original Turks were barbaric arabic hordes that came to Turkey, how come that these hordes became the greatest empire of all time, seizing most of the civilized world and arriving to Vienna? On the other hand maybe for Turkey the rest of the east was just Rumelia as we all used to call it. Still strange that they mentioned Albanians like Arnaut and didn't mention their neighbors. So strange because at least the ottoman archives are considered to be very accurate and detailed.

@ Rote That series of documentaries on Sulejman The Magnificent is worth watching. Looks like Sulejman had a Russian wife (like our Pacolli ha ha) but there was no evidence he had ever lived in Russia. Is there any evidence for this claim that he was Ivan III? Thank you Rote!

Skenderbeu 1444 :

I find it very strange when only some of the Shqiptars show interest for the times when many of the current problems were formed. Those are very good questions. I did not know that Paccoli has a Russian wife yet he remains a criminal business man in my mind. As for Suleiman I can say that I've read this version only in one place but it was the source that I trust. Last 30 years Gleb Nosovsky is the right hand of Anatoly Fomenko and he gives most of the interviews and writes plenty of books. So i've twice read and heard from him the idea about Suleiman.

The problem is that the Ottomans have never been occupied while Moscow was twice in 1612 and in 1812 sezed, robbed and burnt by the catholics. So biography of Suleiman remained more or less untouched while life story of Ivan III the Great was divided in 3 pieces. His reign therefore became shorter and some of the episodes were granted to other Rus Princes including Ivan IV whom the Romanovs also called Great though he ruled some 10 years only during which only Kazan and Astrakhan were brought to order. Nothing to call him the great for or the Terrible as they misinterpreted Russian word Grozny = Mighty.

Later I'll find for you the names of the first Rus rulers and tell you what I think about parallelism between the Sultans and the Russian Great Princes. But to judge properly you have to keep in mind several basic things.

to be continued

1/ Turkic language was one of the languages that all Rus people spoke and it had nothing to do with the Osmani language that was a mix of Persian, Arab, Greek and Slovenski while current Turkish was developed by two Russian Tattars only in 1932.

2/ In 15-16 century the Ottomans were an autonomus part of the Rus-Mongol-Tatar-Roman empire and it was absolutely Christian empire with a small Catholic group in Europe. There were only 3 Patriarhies at the time: Constantinople (aka Jerusalem), Veliki Novgorod (Roman) and Antiohian (Mamelukes)

3/ Osmani and then Turkish history was also falsified though not that much as in Russia and Europe. Those were several waves of falsification from 17 to 20 centuries. It's a long story what, when and why it was made so just don't take them as a Gospell.

4/ Islam became official religion of the Ottomans after 1613 though first churches were turned into mosques during last years of Suleiman. But at least before 1702 (when the first sultan was burried in accordance with Islam) it remained an Orthodox empire descentant of the Great Horde.

5/ The first mentioning of the Rus people in the Turkish history belongs to 16 century when in 1572 the Sultans sent their Yanissary to stop the riot in Moscow as if defeated in Molody Battle. But looks like they lie because for several decades the state power was returned to the Rurikovici. Anyways it's strange that the two great neigboring states apperar for one another so late.

Skenderbeu

6/ the Sultans refused to obey the Romanovs after they seized power again in 1613. Poles and Germans sent big troops to help the Romanovs win.

7/ Before 19th century the Romanovs were German and Polish puppets and that's why other pieces of the former empire ( Sweden, Great Tartaria, Ottomans, Crimeans, Independent Tartaria in Central Asia) constantly fought them.

8/ Also mention that in 15-16 centuries Islam and Judaism were very different and remained within the Christian Church as legal sects that went on praying in Orthodox churches. All 3 religions were transformed drastically in 17-18 centuries. Before that Christians were also Circumcised and could have up to 4 legal wives while Muslims could drink rakia ect.

9/ So when we discuss if the Sultans were of Rus origin or if the Christians fought the Muslims we have to remember that they differed very little and even change of belief was not a crime. During Ivan III only two crimes were punished with death penalty - treason of the prince and stealing of horses.

10/ The sultans kept up all Christian saint places including St. Sophia Church inside their Topkapi residence. It other name Hagia Sophia was later used in Islam as Hajj/Piligriming to Jerusalem (now Ankara) and Mecca.

11/ Also mind that before 19 century the only diplomatic language used by the Sultans was Serbian Church (Slovenski) = the only official language of the Horde - see Zakonnik of Dusan Silni. Then Greek became diplomatic.

Rocky Mountains

Wrong - Albanians in Kosovo were plotting and doing ethnic cleansing of Serbs even during the days of Brotherhood and Unity. Read your history before jumping to conclusions.

Unless Rote they considered Russians as belonging to their same "milet" ?! Otherwise it's not normal at all that those ottoman chronicles didn't ever mentioned Rus people as separate and distinguished neighbor before 16th century. I didnt find almost nothing on Ivan III online while there's a lot of information on Ivan IV the Terrible. Although I think the most terrible of them was actually Sulejman who killed his own son.

Yank foreign policy will change massively once Trump comes into power.
The Yanks have now created a strong ISIS flavour all over Europe and now in Kosovo as well. Europe is rapidly becoming a Muslim continent mainly thanks to Bush, Clinton and Co.

Algebra genius - in a 4th degree polynomial equation, how many 0s one can find, theoretically speaking?

@ captain Kosovo- silly boy,)

Skenderbeu

Ivan III (Timofey) Vasilyevich the Great 'Grozny' (the Terrible) 1462-1505 according to Karamzin notes that Ivan III was called the Terrible. Ivan III is a phantom reflection of Ivan IV 'The Terrible' of the XVI century with a hundred years chronological shift. In the Western Chronicles he was called Habsburg (i.e. Novgorodian) 'Frederick III' 1440-1493. In the Bible Ivan 'the Terrible' reflected as king Nebuchadnezzar. He came to power as a result of an inter-dynastic battle. In the battle, the Great 'Stand' on Ugra river, he defeated the preceding Grand Prince = khan and occupied the throne of Veliky Novgorod. At that point the metropoly of the Empire is divided into two parts – the Southern Ottomania=Atamania = Judaea, and the Northern Russia-Horde = Israel. The recently conquered Czar-Grad was turned into the second capital of the Empire. The Southern regions of Europe, Africa and Middle East were brought under its subjection. The Northern and Central Europe, Siberia and Asia remained in direct subordination to Veliky Novgorod = Yaroslavl, the throne of which is occupied by Ivan III Vasilyevich. Ivan III is also known as a) Vsevolod Yaroslavich, erroneously dated to the XI century; b) Casimir of Lithuania. Ivan III, aka Fredrick III, aka Tamerlane, aka (partial) Mehmed II the Conqueror, who conquered Constantinople, was the Hordian czar-khan. The intense antipathy of the Western chroniclers towards Mehmed II is very well known.

wait for the links

Skenderbeu

I must have been mistaken if I said that Suleiman was Ivan III because sometimes things get mixed in my head too ... You will have the same problem if you start to learn who was who. Ad hoq save the below link where you will find simple explanation of many of the things. Plus you can see how Ivan III looked like to compare the protrait with the Sultans of the time. Later if I have the answer I'll write to you.

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/index.html IVAN III
http://chronologia.org/seven7_1/im/7k1-01-032.jpg SUMMARY

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04_26.html#the28 MURAT-I
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04_34.html#the36

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/05_26.html#the27 MEHMET III
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04.html#the3 RURIKOVICI

12/ Remember that the ruling Rjurikovici dynasty were descendants from the Byzantime (Troyan) Romeys as they used to say from Emperor August. They knew only two languages - old Rus later replaced by so called Serbian Church (Slovensky) and Turkic/Tatar. But they did not consider themselves Russians or of any other nation. They were above all ... like gods. It explains many things.

13/ Of course in the military state the cossacks were a priviledged caste and you can see it in the famous Грамота александра македонского славянам. It's a very informative document worth of separate discussion. If I find an English version I'll place it here.

http://ksana-lib.narod.ru/chudinov-gramota-2.html

Skenderbeu : it is so strange that some nations appear to pop up from nothing in late 16th 17th centuries. Also if it is true what we've been told that the original Turks were barbaric arabic hordes that came to Turkey, how come that these hordes became the greatest empire of all time

Current Turks have little to do with the Osmans/Ottomans. Today we have a nation with absolutely fascist ideology composed of several different peoples. It began in 1923 but it became a nightmare in 1942 when the whole world was worried with other problems and when both sides dreamed to attract Turkey. What was done then still has no precedent. All of a sudden Greeks, Slavs, Shqiptars, Kurds, Armenians, Cherkess, Arabs, Persians ect. were declared to be Turks. They had to change their first and their second names. If you sang a song in a public place you were jailed if it wasn't a Turkish song. The problem was that there were no Turkish songs yet ... Greeks and Kurds suffered most. The Caucasians were a priviledged group as they always made the military elite of the territory. But they also had language problems. I can tell you lots of things about how the Turkish language was born in 1932. They are very amusing for me but the Greeks, Armenians, Slavs ect. did not find them funny at the time. Ataturk told the regional governors to create language comissions and start to collect Turkish words. They have found about 32 000 words with many of them synonymous.

continued

concerning the Turkish language

Thus in every velayat they had a language comission that by 1932 developed a Turkish language of their own. Of course those were different languages but they desided to implement them immediately. The newspapers were written on those Turkish languages but people did not understand them and so was in the radio. You will be surprised but in a great degree this situation is still seen ... Mustafa Ataturk had to enter and he created new words for geometry ... It's a long and funny story ... By the way Osmani was a great language developed for centuries.


14/ Marco Polo about the Kulikovo Battle of 1380 in Moscow : Only closest troops could gather here and that's why there were so little of them while he ( Dmitry I Donskoy = Constantine I = Murat I ect.) had plenty of troops, but they were engaged in far away wars conquering states in various parts of the world so he could not collect them in time and in the required place ... (rote translation)

15/ As you know Obilic killed Prince Dmitry and the Serbian government is sitting in the street named after him ... Then all of a sudden both armies abandoned Kosovo for years while Serbian elite totally vaporized ... forever!

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04.html#the3

Skenderbeu : Unless Rote they considered Russians as belonging to their same "milet" ?! ... I didnt find almost nothing on Ivan III on line

Read my previous comments where i said that

1/ Ottomans were arranged same as the mainland Rus so they had 3 main milliets (Orthodox, Catholic and Muslim) and Rus people were part of the Orthodox called Millet-i Rum = People of Rome. It was always headed by the Greek Patriarch of Constantinople and other Orthodox peoples including were part of that milliet. It was independent in all education, worship, taxes and other issues that contradicts to what you are told in schools. Besides the 3 mentioned main Milliets some of the ethnic groups (Kurds, Armenians, Shqiptars and Jews) were given rights to form Milliets. Yanissary were drafted from this milliet before 17 century.

2/ Rus/Slavs were most priviledged during Horde times and they controlled all vital points in the world including ports, rivers, bridges and fortifications including monasteries be them Christian or Buddhist. I'll try to supply you with the English text of the famous Gramota of Alexander of Macedon (= of the White River) to the Slavs to help you see it. Yet as I said the Rurikovici were above everything.

3/ I'll find something about Ivan-3 but he is one of the biggest secret of the world history. He reached the peak of the might of the great horde. His son Ermak Timofeevic known as Hernán Cortés ( K-ordes) has finished colonization of America.

Skanderbeu

See the portrait of the Sultan. Some of them belonging to 15-16 centuries are spoiled. If you think that it happened by accident and that they have no other portraits in their museums, libraries, private collections or in Topkapi castle you make a naiive mistake.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Sultans_of_the_Ottoman_Dynasty.jpg

How do you know that sultans spoke serbian church language? When you find some time of course and now it is too late.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 18 January 2017 21:54)


The Russian origin of the Sultans is not a secret though they hate to talk about it. In Europe and in America there are some male descendants of the Sultans in the expectation list. They are divided into 3 competing groups taking birth from different sultans. But all of them have dominating R1a1 happlogroup. If you don't find it let me know.

There are several public books and memoirs of the Europeans that in Topkapi residence of the Sultans everybody spoke Slovenski and so was in the High Court of Constantinople. All ambassadors to Constantinople were Slavs in were appointed from the Slavs and it lasted till 18 century. One such Slav was Ambassador fron Vienna though his name was smth like Sigmund Zilberschtein. Later he was sent to work in Moscow.

Try to write his name correctly in German and seek with words Osmani Language. When he brought the verificationnote toSuleiman and tried to handle it he felt pain in his back and could not raise so he turned to the guard and begged him BOGA RADI (FOR GOD'S SAKE) ... Suleiman heard it and helped him to raise up ... I'll try to help you this weekend. There's a lot of evidence that Mehmet II spoke Russian too.


1+1=11111

1+1 = 2

Skenderbeu

I looked through my yesterday comments and found several misprints there. One concerning Jerusalem that stood on the Asian side of current Istanbul (not Ankara!) ... see

10/ The sultans kept up all Christian saint places including St. Sophia Church inside their Topkapi residence. It other name Hagia Sophia was later used in Islam as Hajj/Piligriming to Jerusalem (now Ankara) and Mecca.

By the way Ankara was called Angora (Angora wool) and most likely originated from Han Gora (Han's Mountain) ... The famous battle of 1402 between Tamerlane and the Ottomans happened here. Those were not quite clear events because as they say the Ottoman empire stopped to exist for some 12-15 years and Serbs helped Mehmet I to save and restore it. It demonstrated that then Serbs weren't a discriminated caste but were part of the elite. Otherwise why should they save the Ottomans 13 years after the Kosovo Battle? Some important links are missing in the chain I think ... Or there must be some other interpretation of the events we know.

you made me laugh with all my soul with your spontaneous rhymes on the shqiptar mountains covered with shqiptar snow that shines under the sun of freedom and welfare :)

(Skenderbeu 1444, 19 January 2017 07:02)

It was my sarcasm because I think that a 5 word nick name looks too long so I made it ever longer ...

I'll find information about Russian roots of Mehmet II and other Sultans. Right now I don't remember where I took it from but those were different sources.

You know there are plenty of Russians making their own investigations of history and very often they find interesting things. I'll give you links but the texts will need interpretation from Russian.

I lead my own investigation to prove that the whole world was under the Horde. I was shocked of how many Toponymals and ethnonimals all over the world still sirvived ! Hitler changed 1000+ Slavic toponymals in Germany but there must be as many there more. They just failed to verify them. I know several languages and it helps me but it's not enough and best if many people knowing many languages do the job.

Maybe Trump might undo all that the previous US/NATO gangster administrations have done and reverse the jihadist investations of Europe.

Algebra genius - in a 4th degree polynomial equation, how many 0s one can find, theoretically speaking?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 19 January 2017 07:46)

I wouldn't call myself genius. Regarding your questions, I don't see how that adds value to the topic, but I'll let you and rote figure it out :)

I am very sorry for interrupting whatever you two have going on here, please resume.

Rote and Skenda... sitting on a tree

Skenderbeu

Diploma of Alexander the Great to the Slavs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfCWEPuBiI

This strange man is formally right as after 26 minutes he invites all Slavs living higher than 36-th Parallel because all those lands were granted by Alexander the Great to the Slavs. In 15-16th centuries when Alexander lived Slavic tribes were not divided yet and acted as one.

Original text of the Gramota by Mauro Orbini edited in 1601 and entered the Index of forbidden books in 1603

http://blog.pravo.ru/blog/6879.html

It not only includes the list of the lands that he granted to the Slavs (all lands above 36-th Parallel) but also says that if anybody inhabits those lands they must become slaves to the Slavs and their children must be slaves to the Slavs till the end of time. This text was widely spread in Europe in the middle ages. What is interesting Alexander Filippovic speaks not as if he is one of the Slavs but one of the Roman Emperors who were above all.

The text is composed in the single official language of the Horde - Slovenski, called here as 'сербский извод церковного языка". Lands granted to the Slavs are called here as BELI SVET (WHITE WORLD) where white people lived while territories south of the 36-th parallel are called CHERNI SVET (BLACK WORLD) ...

M AC-E DON is composed of suffix M and words AK (white in Tatar) and DON (river, water in Rus) Thus Alexander of Macedon means Alexander of The White River i.e. VOLGA or OKA.

LANDS GRANTED BY ALEXANDER FILIPPOVIC TO THE SLAVS

"все пространство земли от севера до пределов Италии на юге;

все земли мира от полуночи до полуденных земель Итальянских;

все земли мира от полунощного моря великого Ледовитого океана до Итальянского скалистого южного моря;

земли Богемии, Польши, Рутении и Балканского полуострова;

земли между реками Днепр и Дунай;

та часть света, которая расположена от севера до юга;

между Варяжским и Каспийским морем;

от моря Ледоватого, которое дале Москвы, до моря Венецкова, которое море называем Адриатцкое, меж которыми теми реками наши народы нашего языка живут;

от моря Варяжскаго и до моря Хвалынскаго;

крайны от полночнаго моря великаго окияна Ледовитаго аж до моря Влоскаго скалнего полуденнаго;

вся страны от полунощнаго окиянскаго ледовитаго моря даже до италийскаго полуденнага Каменскаго моря;

все краины от мора полночнаго великого Окиану Ледовитого, аж до мора Влоского, полуденного;

во всем пределе между великими морями и преславными реками;

от Немецкого моря... вплоть до Средиземного моря;

от Москвы и до Средиземного и Адриатического морей;

от Каспийского моря до Саксонии, и от моря Адриатического до Немецкого;

от моря Ледянаго аж до моря Междуземнаго и Адриятическаго, такожде от Балтийского моря аж до Междуземнаго и Чернаго и Хвалымскаго"

(Мыльников А.С. Указ. соч. С. 84, 275).

Skenderbeu

BELOW ARE EUROPEANS WHO WROTE AND GAVE THE TEXT OF THE GRAMOTA OF ALEXANDER TO THE SLAVS

Бельский: Bielski M., Kronika wssystkyego swyata, Krako'w, 1551, Bielski M., Kronika Polska, Krako'w, 1597;
Оржеховский: Orichovius S., Rerum Polonicarum, 1552. - In: Dlugoss
J., Historiae Polonica liber XIII... J.G.Krause, Lipsiae, 1712, т.2,III;
Циллениус: Cyllenius D., De vetere et recentiore scientia militari, Venetiis, 1559;
Сарницкий: Sarnicius S., Descriptio veteris et novae Poloniae, Cracoviae, 1585;
Папроцкий: Paprocky' B., Zrcadlo slawne'ho margrabstwy Morawske'ho, Olomouc, 1593;
Орбини: Orbini M., Il regno degli Slavi, Pesaro, 1601, и многие другие [562], с.84.

THE LATIN TEXT

LIST ALEXANDRA WELIKEHO.

My Alexander Filippa Kra'le Macedonske'ho w Knijz~etstwij znamenity Rzecke'ho Cysar~stwij zac~atel welikeho Jupitera Syn skrze Nectanabu oznameny pr~yznawatel Bragmansky'ch a' Stromu Slunce a Miesyce potlac~ytel Perskych a Medskych Kra'lowstwij Pa'n Swieta od wychodu Slunce az~ do za'padu od poledne az~ do puol nocy.
Oswijcene'mu pokolenij Slowanskemu a Jazyku gijch milost, pokog y take' pozdrawenij od na's a budu'cych nassych na'miestkuow po na's w zprawowa'nij Swieta. Protoz~e gste na'm wz~dycky pr~ytomni buli v Wijre prawdomluwnij w odienij Statec~nij nassy pomocnijcy Bogownij a nevstalij nalezeni byli da'wame a na wa's pr~enessyme wa'm swobodnie a na wiec~nost wssecku Kraginu Swieta

http://chronologia.org/xpon6/x6_05_1317.html

Skenderbeu : Hajj pilgriming and Hagia Sophia ...

I pay little attention to what some ethnical or religional groups will react. In fact the pills are much sweeter than most of you think. Hagia Sophia was the place where Andronicus-Christ expelled the traders from and it is described in the Bible. Hagia Sophia was also one of the two churches of Stanbul that have never been turned into mosques. It was family church of the Rus Sultans in their Topkapi court yard. Otherwise it's impossible to explain why Muslim Sultans took oath and were burried in the oldest Orthodox church where all the icons are still alive. Also if you are a Muslim you should know that in the begining Prophet Mohammad (Sultan Mehmet II) was praying towards Jerusalem and only after he qarreled with the Israelites he turned towards Mecca. It's almost true but it was not Mohammad himself but his Great grandson Suleiman who corrected Quran and Sunnah and turned towards Hidjaz captured by his father Selim I Yavuz (Grozny) in 1517. So Hajj to Mecca became natural since 16-17 centuries. Yet before 1811 (when the Mamelukes were crushed by the Brits) Arabs were not allowed to Mecca. During the Mamelukes Arabs were a caste of Slaves (a-rab) but after Suleiman they've got equal rights because they became Muslims. Finally the Quraishi Dynasty to which the Prophet belonged were the Rurikovici - "the white people that came from the north" as the Arab sources say. As I told you Prophet Mohammad was a Rus Saint too ...

Skenderbeu : I think Rote that the Balcans' elites were all part of the Ottoman elite take for example our bejs and pasha.

Of cource they were ! It is exactly what I am trying to receive to all of you. But you prefer your small toys of the phantom heroes with plenty of questions left hanging. Since the Byzantine the Balkans were the Roman Empire itself. Simply metropolis of the Byzantine was the Balkans (99% of the territory) and Jerusalem-Troja-Tsargrad (1%) ... Everything else were the fems (colonies) of the Empire including Rus. Later situation changed and Dmitry I Ivanovic (Constantine I = Murat I) moved his religious capitol here. But in 1389 he was killed in Kosovo. It sounds strage until you start to analize and compare the biographies of the two. It is known that Constantine the Great made Christianity Imperial religion and so did Prince Dmitry Donskoy. Both were killed in battles against much bigger armies and bot have won the battles while hostile commanders were both killed ... Even the year of their death is the same. Constantine died in 337 while Dmitry died in 1389. In fact it is the same year. Fomenko has discovered 3 chronological shifts that I checked many times. Those are 1800 years in the history of Greece, 1052 years in the history of Europe and 330 years in Byzantine. Thus we have 1052+337 = 1389 ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Donskoy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murad_I

Algebra genius - in a 4th degree polynomial equation, how many 0s one can find, theoretically speaking?

(Skenderbeu 1444, 19 January 2017 07:46)


By the way I too smiled when you shut the new mathematician up.

When you read my comments one question must arise HOW COULD IT BE THAT SO MUCH INFORMATION COULD BE FALSIFIED ? Unfortunately it became possible because of many reasons that I will say later. But it happens permanently even in 19-21 centuries.

After Napoleon wars when monarchy was restored in France the Bourbons made an attempt to expose things that no Bonapart had ever existed. It took them some 10 years to understand that in 19 century the trick does not work any longer. Because there was no more need to hide the history of the Horde and because there was no more unity among the western elites. Plus newspapers and books were widely spread at the times. Yet for 10 years the Bourbons re-wrote all Napoleon documents as if signed by the French kings ... It means that they were experienced enough in changing the past!

So did the Romanovs after defeating one of the last hordes in 1775. They exposed war against Great Tartaria as a peasant riot of Pugachev. Then they forbade any mentioning of the war and exposed that Great Tartaria had never existed but was a part of the Simbirsk province. So the province became 3-4 times bigger than the rest of then Russia.

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In 1869 the Portugese and the Dutch ivaded Japan killing all Rus Samurais and exposed it as a civil war. One blond boy survived and the US shoot a film THE LAST SAMURAI. He lived 91 years and now we have foto of an absolutely European man - the last man of the Ippon Horde from Isu province of the nindjas. See the Ainu people and ask yourself how much do they look like the Japanese?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people

The last of all the Hordes was the Chinese one. But collective forces of Russia, Britain, France ect. have destroyed it in 1911. Today we know it as the Boxer's Riot that took away some 40 000 000 lives ...

Many young Americans believe that the USA was the first to open the space and that the USSR fought on the German side in WW2. Young French think that the USA tribute most to defeat the Nazi while 37% of the young Japanese are sure that it was the USSR who dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Obama refused to apology last year because it could destroy the US propaganda.

Look at the Chetniks! One have to prove that they weren't camels. All forgot that the Chetniks were the first to rebel against the nazi and to grant the USSR another peaceful month. They discuss some tactical episodes with the Germans. It's a part of the demonization process of the Serbs who were almost single allies of the USSR on the battlefield. And they suffered second big combat losses in WW2. More than the USA who led two parallel wars.

Now Rote this is a key point: if Mehmet II spoke Russian and if there is any evidence for this. Because Sulejman might have helped the ambassador simply because he understood the whole situation. What do you think? Ok on the Rumelia thing and the division in "milliets". Our old authors all refer to Rumelia as the the ortodox east. Intriguing debate Rote and if you like Sting here is a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3IWwBsIWqg hey, you made me laugh with all my soul with your spontaneous rhymes on the shqiptar mountains covered with shqiptar snow that shines under the sun of freedom and welfare :)

DD You. Left. Out. God. You spoke about religions and nations but. a person al. Relationship. with. the. Maker YHWH. didn't t enter your. equation you. miss the most important thing99

I think Rote that the Balcans' elites were all part of the Ottoman elite take for example our bejs and pasha. Of course Serbs were also part of the Ottoman elite but have you heard them crying for Kosovo Polje battle? And they are not alone on this as that is what Albanian christians say as well. We fought you didn't, we died you converted for power, we were the oppressed you oppressed us with the turks. If you are curious and ask them what was the oppression about when they were a respected cast of traders even under the Sultans, they will reply "yes but because we are dynamic and smart people, you were part of the military, we focused on the trade and arts"!

Hajj pilgriming and Hagia Sophia you said, hmmmm try to say that to the Balcans' christians and you'll see how they react! Anyways the most ridiculuos part of this story is that I've challenged to war Serbs on Kosovo while in fact I and many albanians are in these days fighting to fix our storage devices for water supply on the roofs of the palaces. Because of the albanian snow and the siberian freeze the tubes have freezed and many are broken and here we are without water!

I have not recovered yet from the gramota of Alexander Filipovic Rote, considering all my anger for these snakes of our macedonian neighbors. Is there any evidence that prophet Mohammed was a Russian saint?

Skenderbeu: crying for Kosovo Polje battle

I saw no mediaeval sorces about the battle other than in the Russian Letopisni Svod

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illustrated_Chronicle_of_Ivan_the_Terrible

Like the famous Angora battle of 1402 it happened during the civil war in the Great Horde (1370-1415). So seeking Shqiptars and Serbs or Croats is counter productive. To say nothing that islam appeared in 16-th century only.

In 1340 Bati Khan ( Karl the Great) suddenly died in Vatican where he had established the instituytion of the Roman Popes. He was Calif i.e. military, civil and religious head of the Horde. Thus he left without heritage all 3 branches of the state power.

His son Alexander Nevski aka Simeon Gordi aka Hannibal Berke (Han of the Whites) aka Ludwig of Bavaria added Egypt and China to the empire and appointed the governors to every colony. Guess the Njemanici were such ones.

Alexander's son Ivan Krotki (1353-59) was father of Dmitry/ Murad/ Constantine. He introduced monetary system and started to build the famous Roman roads. He died when Prince Dmitry was a child and it was the time when epidemies started.

The Horde split for 3 parts: Golden (Volga, Syberia, Central Asia, Caucasus), Blue (Ukraine) and White (Moscow, n-w Rus, Poland, Byelorus, Prussia, Baltic) of which formally the main was the White Horde. But Dmitry was too young and had regents while his two uncles ruled the remaining hordes the way they liked.

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Skenderbeu : crying for Kosovo Polje battle - 2

Dmitry was was eager to restore the empire of his great grandfather and his Gengis Khan (St.George) brother. In 1370 he proclaimed that Jesus meant all people to be equal. It was a shock for other Rurikovici who had considered Christianity as their Royal family religion. Since 1372 conflicts between the White horde of Dmitry and Kniazia Riazanskie of the Golden Horde started to increase. It brought to the Greatest battle in the mediaeval history on Kulikovo Field where later Moscow was built. Same cruicial battle is described in the biography of Constantine I. All the details but the names and the toponymals were the same. Prince Dmitry used wooden canons and won the battle. He was very persistent in destroying the Golden Horde and bringing to order the Blue Horde of the future Sultans. All 3 hordes were ruled by the Rjurikovici including Mehmet II. Same 1380 Prince Dmitry moved his religious capitol to Jerusalem-Troy-Tsargrad and called it Constantinople in his own honor. Constantine was one of his ancestors. So he took his Greek patriarch and ruled the Empire from there. As I said the war lasted till 1415 when the two armied stood on Ugra River to establish peace under the rule of the Whites aka Albabians. But it happened during Vasili I aka Bayased I - elder son of Dmitry. Long before that Dmitry was killed in Kosovo by someone who fought for the Early Christians aka Pagans and for the Golden Horde.

Skenderbeu

One last thing. I don't think that there was much difference between the Slavs in 15 century so Mehmet II could quite be a Macedonian too. If we accept that Tamerlane and Mehmet II were one man then it will be interesting to see what names Tamerlane used.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD

As you can see he had 9 names in different regions : «Великий Эмир», Бек, Мирза, Абу Мансур, Абу Фатих, Абу Гази, Сахиб-и Кирани, Хаган, Гете Стани, Султан, Искандар Ул Ахад, Гурган ... Where Искандар Ул Ахад means Alexander the Great ... Абу Мансур means Son of Man Syrian = Son of Rus because for several centuries Rus Mamelukes ruled these lands and Sur is the Arab reading of word Rus .... Абу Фатих means Son of the Conqueror where Fatih is the official title of both Mehmet II and Prophet Mohammad ... Абу Гази can be interpreted as Son of Cossack as in the old texts Kaz/Kas was often used for Cossack ... There are European portraits of Tamerlane where he looks a blonde in Rus cloths.

http://maxpark.com/community/7285/content/5255055

https://irenecaesar.wordpress.com/tag/%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8B/

Skenderbeu

I feel sorry for and I went thruogh it 7-8 years ago ... You need this book. They give plenty of documents and facts that Tamerlane and Mehmet II were one man ... both Russians. In this book there are texts of the prayors for the sake of this Rus Saint worshipped in the Russian churches and they give also portraits of the two. Unfortunately in the link you will not find the full text.

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For the time being I can offer only the Russian text.

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Skenerbeu

1444 in your nick name nust mean The League of Lezhe. I should say that I am very sceptic about it. Even if it really existed words Albanian and Skenerbeu most likely had other meanings. Yet I suppose that we cannot ignore the fact that the Shqiptars call themselves Albanians. Balkans were something special for the Horde because the Rjurikovici felt themselves descendants of the Romey Empire that as I said was an absolutely Balkan Empire.

In no other place they've built so many churches and monasteries and no other place they cared so much like the Balkans and Tsar Grad. After the 40 year Reconquista (exodus of Israelites in Bible) started in 1415 they never moved forward untill the peninsula was brought to order. See Adrianopole (Erdine) where the sultans were born and (what I don't believe) burried. Mehmet II (what I don't believe) was killed near Belgrade ect.

Thus the Balkans was a place where their hearts belonged to. So after it was re-submitted by 1453 all local peoples must have became Albanians. It was the only way to survive. Important is that in that 40 year war that ended in Santiago de Compostella both sides were mostly Slavs headed by the Rjurikovici. It was a war between the metropolis and it colonies that stopped to obey and pay taxes during the civil war of 1370-1415. The League of Lezhe could be a union of the former governors of the Horde who now fought the Whites and were defeated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C_bilo7O9A

Concerning period of 1444 I once again tried to reveal who was who. It's a real problem not only because names are get mixed but also the periods of reign. Yet I think that Murad II and Dmitry II Shemiaka were one man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Shemyaka

In 1451 the Lezhe League stopped to exist not because of internal but because of the external problems. By that time Balkans were already submitted to Veliki Novgorod/Turks. It was also period when contradictions between the Rurikovici ruling from Constantinople and those in Veliki Novgorod reached to a peak.

As I wrote in 1445 the Greek patriarch of the Horde flew to Constantinople and relations ever worsened. Constantinople had little chance to survive and that's why in 1448 local patriarch Nicolas V flew to Vatican. He took there great part of the library of the Byzantine and the gold of the Horde kept there. He revived the institution of Popes and started his anti-horde propaganda. He bought lands and built Vatican that was his property in the begining. What chances could the Albanian (Shqiptar) league have ? I think zero ...

I mean to say is that we must see the events in the context to understand their meaning. Also we must know what words meant in the past. Think we could avoid lots of problems now. Even words CONTEXT that I used here sounds like CON'S TEXT ... So in the context of smth must mean to be in coordination with Khan's text (order) I think.

They (ethic Albanians) consider a train decorated with Serbian markings to be a provocation, and they moved against that train with bombs and rifles, without KFOR's approval. Nobody's asking the question of whether going around Kosovo with the markings of a Greater Albania, and publicly promoting that senseless idea, is a provocation," Nikolic said.

Wrong again Nikolic!
It is serbian nationalism that started the greater Albanian project, 1st to start this Beutiful project was Slobodan Milosevich's with his nationalistic incitement and wars which completely fragmented what was a unified Yugoslavia at the time with each consttuit member seeing Serbia nationalist policies as a direct threat to their very existence!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_Yugoslavia
Now it is going to be the honor of Nikolic to put the final touches on this project by forcefully (with again its nationalistic policies) attaching & fusing
The Republics of Kosova & Albania into 1 Albanian super state!
Don't blame others for your own imposed nationalistic policies Nikolic, no one is buying it!
And by the way, thanks!!!

Every time this guy Nikolic open his mouth shoot him self on the foot. Serbian government brings problems to their own self. They argue with Kosovo, Montenegro, Croatia, Macedonia. Bosnja.

Nikolic the ignorant :

Greater Serbia is trouble.

Starting 4 wars is trouble.

Traditional serb donkey inat is ..

Community of Serb War Criminals in Kosova is nothing BUT trouble...

Serb Terror has historical been trouble.

Russia and Serbia reek TROUBLE.

Unbelievable, Nikolic is trying to win the next election, thats why he even sent this stupid train, thats all part of his plan.
He wants to win the nationalist vote, by talking about going to war and whatever.

No Serb in Kosovo is threatened or lives in danger and he knows that exactly but he's trying to spread his propaganda.

There are Serbian villages all over Kosovo, many of them for example in Gnjilane, and they live in peace with the Albanians, because he doesn't have the criminal organisations there like in MItrovica that help him to build walls there and cause problems. But I'm sure he won't talk about that.

Once again Politicians are fooling their own nation to stay in power. Please dear Serbian Citizens don't let your self be fooled.
We all just want to live in peace and be part of the EU, and one day if both Countries become part of the EU, there won't be borders anymore, and this finally might bring back the peace to our holy lands.

Sincerely!

America caused all the problems in the world, they created and are isis allies....they caused wars all over and pinned people to fight each other...including Yugoslavia....but Ukraine is the last stop the new world is here and is led by Russia ,china and their allies world wide...evil old aging America and grandpa nato-EU days are gone....peace on earth is going to be here and business,,,, American propaganda days are gone....and soros lost a billion dollars from his trouble making if you don't know who he is type in his name....George soros....evil days are over....

Serbia now wants nothern Kosovo....and looking for any excuses and blaming, loves the rhetorics, victimisation and ultemately copycat Crimea scenario. Let's be honest once!

The president then noted that the Pristina authorities recently prevented him from spending Orthodox Serbian Christmas in Kosovo and Metohija and reminded his interlocutor that "nothing has been done to implement (the agreement on) the Community of Serb Municipalities," adding:

Thank god you admitted publicly that Kosova government denied you entry! Are you still going to sing Kosova je Serbia???

I don't think you will print this one but here it is my Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters!
Srbija is Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity and we only belong to if any body then to Dear Mother Russia ! So Srbija can become known to all lands and seas again only with the FULL support of Dear Mother Russia ! Nothing ever good came to Srbija and nothing ever will from the USA, England and Germany ! So that is it either we unite with Russia and live or we die with the USA, England and Germany !!!

"The president then noted that the Pristina authorities recently prevented him from spending Orthodox Serbian Christmas in Kosovo and Metohija"


Ooooooo, so the original plan was to have Nikolic go to Kosovo aboard the same train.

But when his visit was denied they went ahead and sent some poor Serbs on a train they knew was a big provocation. Same old behavior from Serb government, use common Serbs as cannon fodder for political BS. On another article he says he will fight for Kosovo together with his sons, ha.

I know he is sort of in the middle between Seselj and whoever comes after him, but the sooner Serbs gets rid of this buffoon the better off it will be for everybody.

The Republics of Kosova & Albania into 1 Albanian super state!
Peter the Rocky Mountains

super state - LOL! LOL!

it's primitive to explain the scandal only with the election campaingn in serbia because there are other factors seen and some must be under the carpet. one such factor may be the change of the administrations in america. when else toma could afford such sweet words to the ambassador ? serbia has stepped back already but we saw how close to the edge we are and we also heard not a single voice in the favor of the whites. it is new in the behavior of the west and from this point toma's move wasn't vain i think. yet it's time to stop comparing balls and try to find an intermediator. russia is the best candidate i think. we already have such contacts over syria in astana city. tense in relations gives provocateurs a chance to deside everything for you making another war inevitable.

So basically Kyle Scott gave Nikolic a big F U! Lol!!

Serbs get so excited with nothing. Trump doesn't care about the Balkans, much bigger fish to fry in the world. If anything, he will recognize Crimea and Russia will recognize Kosova. Trump isnt forever, 4 or 8 years?? Not enough time for Trump to get caught in a quagmire of pulling out of Kosova and the global firestorm that would ensue when there are so many other pressing issues to deal with. Lastly, Trump has nothing to gain or benefit by giving up support for Kosova and peace in the Balkans. Nothing. Also, Serbs are so stupid to believe Melanie Trump factors into anything. Ideas of Serbias army invading Kosova? These ideas are the ideas of desperate, defeated, morally corrupt people. Politics is a slow process in the world. Balkans is last on Trumps list. Albanians will just continue forward like they have been, slowly but surely securing more and more of Kosova in name, property, world recognition and spirit! That hate that Serbs feel towards Albanians??? That's proof Albanians own you! You can't move on and be happy with your life because you are preoccupied and obsessed with Albanians. Makes me laugh:)

"They (ethic Albanians) consider a train decorated with Serbian markings to be a provocation, and they moved against that train with bombs and rifles, without KFOR's approval. Nobody's asking the question of whether going around Kosovo with the markings of a Greater Albania, and publicly promoting that senseless idea, is a provocation," Nikolic said.

-- When Prishtina sends a train with those markings to Serbia without even asking anybody in Serbia or coordinating with anyone in Serbia because they feel like it, then you may have a point. Until then, you're just a fool.

Second, I'd like the Serbian perspective on a question. As far as am I aware there is no universal law that bans Serbia from having Russia as an ally. There's also no universal law that prevents Albanians from having allies in the West and the US. How is then that every Serb feels the US should not help us? Why should Serbs always count on Russia's help but Albanians shouldn't count on the help of anyone? What universal law would allow for this? I fail to see any reason or rationality on this Serb request/feeling?

Rocky Mountains

Wrong - Albanians in Kosovo were plotting and doing ethnic cleansing of Serbs even during the days of Brotherhood and Unity. Read your history before jumping to conclusions.

Skenderbeu 1444 :

I find it very strange when only some of the Shqiptars show interest for the times when many of the current problems were formed. Those are very good questions. I did not know that Paccoli has a Russian wife yet he remains a criminal business man in my mind. As for Suleiman I can say that I've read this version only in one place but it was the source that I trust. Last 30 years Gleb Nosovsky is the right hand of Anatoly Fomenko and he gives most of the interviews and writes plenty of books. So i've twice read and heard from him the idea about Suleiman.

The problem is that the Ottomans have never been occupied while Moscow was twice in 1612 and in 1812 sezed, robbed and burnt by the catholics. So biography of Suleiman remained more or less untouched while life story of Ivan III the Great was divided in 3 pieces. His reign therefore became shorter and some of the episodes were granted to other Rus Princes including Ivan IV whom the Romanovs also called Great though he ruled some 10 years only during which only Kazan and Astrakhan were brought to order. Nothing to call him the great for or the Terrible as they misinterpreted Russian word Grozny = Mighty.

Later I'll find for you the names of the first Rus rulers and tell you what I think about parallelism between the Sultans and the Russian Great Princes. But to judge properly you have to keep in mind several basic things.

to be continued

After this clown I'm waiting Irinei!
How he miss this time to talk about holy land!
And how to start a war?

There is a problem with your logic, Independent.

"We all just want to live in peace and be part of the EU, and one day if both Countries become part of the EU, there won't be borders anymore, and this finally might bring back the peace to our holy lands. "

We've heard this before, and it really sound nice. So, why can't RS be independent of Bosnia, and when both countries become part of the EU there won't be borders anymore?

Sarajevo would start war!

But, we should not mind, because borders will be erased, and it won't matter anyway.
EU said (ones upon time) that republics of former Yugoslavia cannot be divided, and SUPPORTED WAR efforts aimed at preservation of integrity of former Yugoslavian republics - namely Croatia and Bosnia.
I wouldn't mind if they said republics cannot be divided, and that's it!
Or let's divide republics and allow everyone to live where ever they like, including , let's say Presevo.
But, Croatia went to war over Krajina, and so did Bosnia, but Serbia should be divided, because borders won't even matter?
Flawed logic.

Perhaps the headline should be "Nikolic continues with political campaign, to win the Nationalist vote".

For far to long Balka politicians who have nothing to offer use Nationalisam to get elected or reelection.

Will we ever learn? when are we going to say to this monster we need jobs prosperity and peace?

Ambasador SAD Nikoliću: Izbegavati povišenu retoriku
http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2017&mm=01&dd=17&nav_category=11&nav_id=1221210

Yank foreign policy will change massively once Trump comes into power.
The Yanks have now created a strong ISIS flavour all over Europe and now in Kosovo as well. Europe is rapidly becoming a Muslim continent mainly thanks to Bush, Clinton and Co.

(Hendrix, 18 January 2017 01:08)
Where you see ISIS flavour in Kosovo? Discriminate a ethnic group because of its religion will not help you hiding behind fake CHRISTIANISM, in this world with the open minded Protestants and Catholics.
I will tell you what is a problem for Europe: Someone who threat her stability, economy, life of European people...
And in Europe that is SERBIA!
Muslims in Balkan are all Europeans who were forced to convert because Europe did not help them, i doubt that she will again let them in the hand of Arabs, and try yourself to realize why not!!!
Of course i think Serbia will find support on extremist, but that is not what she need.
Hitler found support to on extremists, ISSIL found support to, Clu Clux Clan found support, but we all know where this bring to.
Attacking and ethnic group using the religion against is the most low this Serbs can make, or is a copy paste from ISISL, so you will have the same fate.
If Serbs continue like this soon or latter there will be a crash even with Catholics or Protestants - with Orthodox church. Remember my words !

“serbia has stepped back already but we saw how close to the edge we are and we also heard not a single voice in the favor of the whites.”
(rote)

Rote, you’re either born an ignorant or you try really hard to maintain that image.
This very article says exactly the opposite of what you’re writing, i.e. US supports Kosovos move, that's why Nikolic is mad. Further more, German Ambassador to Kosovo, Viets:
It is Kosovo’s right to control its borders:
http://koha.net/?id=27&l=152342

Skenderbeu

Ivan III (Timofey) Vasilyevich the Great 'Grozny' (the Terrible) 1462-1505 according to Karamzin notes that Ivan III was called the Terrible. Ivan III is a phantom reflection of Ivan IV 'The Terrible' of the XVI century with a hundred years chronological shift. In the Western Chronicles he was called Habsburg (i.e. Novgorodian) 'Frederick III' 1440-1493. In the Bible Ivan 'the Terrible' reflected as king Nebuchadnezzar. He came to power as a result of an inter-dynastic battle. In the battle, the Great 'Stand' on Ugra river, he defeated the preceding Grand Prince = khan and occupied the throne of Veliky Novgorod. At that point the metropoly of the Empire is divided into two parts – the Southern Ottomania=Atamania = Judaea, and the Northern Russia-Horde = Israel. The recently conquered Czar-Grad was turned into the second capital of the Empire. The Southern regions of Europe, Africa and Middle East were brought under its subjection. The Northern and Central Europe, Siberia and Asia remained in direct subordination to Veliky Novgorod = Yaroslavl, the throne of which is occupied by Ivan III Vasilyevich. Ivan III is also known as a) Vsevolod Yaroslavich, erroneously dated to the XI century; b) Casimir of Lithuania. Ivan III, aka Fredrick III, aka Tamerlane, aka (partial) Mehmed II the Conqueror, who conquered Constantinople, was the Hordian czar-khan. The intense antipathy of the Western chroniclers towards Mehmed II is very well known.

wait for the links

concerning the Turkish language

Thus in every velayat they had a language comission that by 1932 developed a Turkish language of their own. Of course those were different languages but they desided to implement them immediately. The newspapers were written on those Turkish languages but people did not understand them and so was in the radio. You will be surprised but in a great degree this situation is still seen ... Mustafa Ataturk had to enter and he created new words for geometry ... It's a long and funny story ... By the way Osmani was a great language developed for centuries.


14/ Marco Polo about the Kulikovo Battle of 1380 in Moscow : Only closest troops could gather here and that's why there were so little of them while he ( Dmitry I Donskoy = Constantine I = Murat I ect.) had plenty of troops, but they were engaged in far away wars conquering states in various parts of the world so he could not collect them in time and in the required place ... (rote translation)

15/ As you know Obilic killed Prince Dmitry and the Serbian government is sitting in the street named after him ... Then all of a sudden both armies abandoned Kosovo for years while Serbian elite totally vaporized ... forever!

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04.html#the3

Skenderbeu : Unless Rote they considered Russians as belonging to their same "milet" ?! ... I didnt find almost nothing on Ivan III on line

Read my previous comments where i said that

1/ Ottomans were arranged same as the mainland Rus so they had 3 main milliets (Orthodox, Catholic and Muslim) and Rus people were part of the Orthodox called Millet-i Rum = People of Rome. It was always headed by the Greek Patriarch of Constantinople and other Orthodox peoples including were part of that milliet. It was independent in all education, worship, taxes and other issues that contradicts to what you are told in schools. Besides the 3 mentioned main Milliets some of the ethnic groups (Kurds, Armenians, Shqiptars and Jews) were given rights to form Milliets. Yanissary were drafted from this milliet before 17 century.

2/ Rus/Slavs were most priviledged during Horde times and they controlled all vital points in the world including ports, rivers, bridges and fortifications including monasteries be them Christian or Buddhist. I'll try to supply you with the English text of the famous Gramota of Alexander of Macedon (= of the White River) to the Slavs to help you see it. Yet as I said the Rurikovici were above everything.

3/ I'll find something about Ivan-3 but he is one of the biggest secret of the world history. He reached the peak of the might of the great horde. His son Ermak Timofeevic known as Hernán Cortés ( K-ordes) has finished colonization of America.

Skanderbeu

See the portrait of the Sultan. Some of them belonging to 15-16 centuries are spoiled. If you think that it happened by accident and that they have no other portraits in their museums, libraries, private collections or in Topkapi castle you make a naiive mistake.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Sultans_of_the_Ottoman_Dynasty.jpg

How do you know that sultans spoke serbian church language? When you find some time of course and now it is too late.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 18 January 2017 21:54)


The Russian origin of the Sultans is not a secret though they hate to talk about it. In Europe and in America there are some male descendants of the Sultans in the expectation list. They are divided into 3 competing groups taking birth from different sultans. But all of them have dominating R1a1 happlogroup. If you don't find it let me know.

There are several public books and memoirs of the Europeans that in Topkapi residence of the Sultans everybody spoke Slovenski and so was in the High Court of Constantinople. All ambassadors to Constantinople were Slavs in were appointed from the Slavs and it lasted till 18 century. One such Slav was Ambassador fron Vienna though his name was smth like Sigmund Zilberschtein. Later he was sent to work in Moscow.

Try to write his name correctly in German and seek with words Osmani Language. When he brought the verificationnote toSuleiman and tried to handle it he felt pain in his back and could not raise so he turned to the guard and begged him BOGA RADI (FOR GOD'S SAKE) ... Suleiman heard it and helped him to raise up ... I'll try to help you this weekend. There's a lot of evidence that Mehmet II spoke Russian too.


1+1=11111

1+1 = 2

Maybe Trump might undo all that the previous US/NATO gangster administrations have done and reverse the jihadist investations of Europe.

Albanians own you! You can't move on and be happy with your life because you are preoccupied and obsessed with Albanians. Makes me laugh:)
(Captain Kosova, 17 January 2017 20:11)

Is that why a Serbian site is being flooded by Albanians?? You sure it's not the other way around

1/ Turkic language was one of the languages that all Rus people spoke and it had nothing to do with the Osmani language that was a mix of Persian, Arab, Greek and Slovenski while current Turkish was developed by two Russian Tattars only in 1932.

2/ In 15-16 century the Ottomans were an autonomus part of the Rus-Mongol-Tatar-Roman empire and it was absolutely Christian empire with a small Catholic group in Europe. There were only 3 Patriarhies at the time: Constantinople (aka Jerusalem), Veliki Novgorod (Roman) and Antiohian (Mamelukes)

3/ Osmani and then Turkish history was also falsified though not that much as in Russia and Europe. Those were several waves of falsification from 17 to 20 centuries. It's a long story what, when and why it was made so just don't take them as a Gospell.

4/ Islam became official religion of the Ottomans after 1613 though first churches were turned into mosques during last years of Suleiman. But at least before 1702 (when the first sultan was burried in accordance with Islam) it remained an Orthodox empire descentant of the Great Horde.

5/ The first mentioning of the Rus people in the Turkish history belongs to 16 century when in 1572 the Sultans sent their Yanissary to stop the riot in Moscow as if defeated in Molody Battle. But looks like they lie because for several decades the state power was returned to the Rurikovici. Anyways it's strange that the two great neigboring states apperar for one another so late.

Skenderbeu

6/ the Sultans refused to obey the Romanovs after they seized power again in 1613. Poles and Germans sent big troops to help the Romanovs win.

7/ Before 19th century the Romanovs were German and Polish puppets and that's why other pieces of the former empire ( Sweden, Great Tartaria, Ottomans, Crimeans, Independent Tartaria in Central Asia) constantly fought them.

8/ Also mention that in 15-16 centuries Islam and Judaism were very different and remained within the Christian Church as legal sects that went on praying in Orthodox churches. All 3 religions were transformed drastically in 17-18 centuries. Before that Christians were also Circumcised and could have up to 4 legal wives while Muslims could drink rakia ect.

9/ So when we discuss if the Sultans were of Rus origin or if the Christians fought the Muslims we have to remember that they differed very little and even change of belief was not a crime. During Ivan III only two crimes were punished with death penalty - treason of the prince and stealing of horses.

10/ The sultans kept up all Christian saint places including St. Sophia Church inside their Topkapi residence. It other name Hagia Sophia was later used in Islam as Hajj/Piligriming to Jerusalem (now Ankara) and Mecca.

11/ Also mind that before 19 century the only diplomatic language used by the Sultans was Serbian Church (Slovenski) = the only official language of the Horde - see Zakonnik of Dusan Silni. Then Greek became diplomatic.

Skenderbeu

I must have been mistaken if I said that Suleiman was Ivan III because sometimes things get mixed in my head too ... You will have the same problem if you start to learn who was who. Ad hoq save the below link where you will find simple explanation of many of the things. Plus you can see how Ivan III looked like to compare the protrait with the Sultans of the time. Later if I have the answer I'll write to you.

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/index.html IVAN III
http://chronologia.org/seven7_1/im/7k1-01-032.jpg SUMMARY

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04_26.html#the28 MURAT-I
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04_34.html#the36

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/05_26.html#the27 MEHMET III
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04.html#the3 RURIKOVICI

12/ Remember that the ruling Rjurikovici dynasty were descendants from the Byzantime (Troyan) Romeys as they used to say from Emperor August. They knew only two languages - old Rus later replaced by so called Serbian Church (Slovensky) and Turkic/Tatar. But they did not consider themselves Russians or of any other nation. They were above all ... like gods. It explains many things.

13/ Of course in the military state the cossacks were a priviledged caste and you can see it in the famous Грамота александра македонского славянам. It's a very informative document worth of separate discussion. If I find an English version I'll place it here.

http://ksana-lib.narod.ru/chudinov-gramota-2.html

Skenderbeu : it is so strange that some nations appear to pop up from nothing in late 16th 17th centuries. Also if it is true what we've been told that the original Turks were barbaric arabic hordes that came to Turkey, how come that these hordes became the greatest empire of all time

Current Turks have little to do with the Osmans/Ottomans. Today we have a nation with absolutely fascist ideology composed of several different peoples. It began in 1923 but it became a nightmare in 1942 when the whole world was worried with other problems and when both sides dreamed to attract Turkey. What was done then still has no precedent. All of a sudden Greeks, Slavs, Shqiptars, Kurds, Armenians, Cherkess, Arabs, Persians ect. were declared to be Turks. They had to change their first and their second names. If you sang a song in a public place you were jailed if it wasn't a Turkish song. The problem was that there were no Turkish songs yet ... Greeks and Kurds suffered most. The Caucasians were a priviledged group as they always made the military elite of the territory. But they also had language problems. I can tell you lots of things about how the Turkish language was born in 1932. They are very amusing for me but the Greeks, Armenians, Slavs ect. did not find them funny at the time. Ataturk told the regional governors to create language comissions and start to collect Turkish words. They have found about 32 000 words with many of them synonymous.

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@ captain Kosovo- silly boy,)

We've heard this before, and it really sound nice. So, why can't RS be independent of Bosnia, and when both countries become part of the EU there won't be borders anymore?

-- Sreten, I think RS can become independent. The problem is Serbia. On the one hand it claims this unchangeable God given principle of "territorial integrity" when it comes to Kosova. On the other hand it flirts with the idea of an independent RS; stomping on the very same "unchangeable God given principle" of territorial integrity. It is precisely at this point that Serbia is uncovered and it becomes the emporor with no clothes.Its principles are just BS. So Serbia still has a window when it can decide, because clinging to the idea of Kosova will not make RS independent. It goes against it's very own claimed "principle". So once it has signed on to Kosova's Independence then RS Independence becomes not such a far fetched possibility. All it needs to do is replace Dodik with a fresh face and a somewhat decent politician who is way less corrupt than Dodik. But sitting with one bu++cheek on the territorial integrity chair and the other by++cheek on the independence chair will not get RS it's Independence. That's actually how Serbia is preparing itself to get shafted. You must choose. Which chair do you wanna sit on.

Skenderbeu

I looked through my yesterday comments and found several misprints there. One concerning Jerusalem that stood on the Asian side of current Istanbul (not Ankara!) ... see

10/ The sultans kept up all Christian saint places including St. Sophia Church inside their Topkapi residence. It other name Hagia Sophia was later used in Islam as Hajj/Piligriming to Jerusalem (now Ankara) and Mecca.

By the way Ankara was called Angora (Angora wool) and most likely originated from Han Gora (Han's Mountain) ... The famous battle of 1402 between Tamerlane and the Ottomans happened here. Those were not quite clear events because as they say the Ottoman empire stopped to exist for some 12-15 years and Serbs helped Mehmet I to save and restore it. It demonstrated that then Serbs weren't a discriminated caste but were part of the elite. Otherwise why should they save the Ottomans 13 years after the Kosovo Battle? Some important links are missing in the chain I think ... Or there must be some other interpretation of the events we know.

you made me laugh with all my soul with your spontaneous rhymes on the shqiptar mountains covered with shqiptar snow that shines under the sun of freedom and welfare :)

(Skenderbeu 1444, 19 January 2017 07:02)

It was my sarcasm because I think that a 5 word nick name looks too long so I made it ever longer ...

I'll find information about Russian roots of Mehmet II and other Sultans. Right now I don't remember where I took it from but those were different sources.

You know there are plenty of Russians making their own investigations of history and very often they find interesting things. I'll give you links but the texts will need interpretation from Russian.

I lead my own investigation to prove that the whole world was under the Horde. I was shocked of how many Toponymals and ethnonimals all over the world still sirvived ! Hitler changed 1000+ Slavic toponymals in Germany but there must be as many there more. They just failed to verify them. I know several languages and it helps me but it's not enough and best if many people knowing many languages do the job.

LANDS GRANTED BY ALEXANDER FILIPPOVIC TO THE SLAVS

"все пространство земли от севера до пределов Италии на юге;

все земли мира от полуночи до полуденных земель Итальянских;

все земли мира от полунощного моря великого Ледовитого океана до Итальянского скалистого южного моря;

земли Богемии, Польши, Рутении и Балканского полуострова;

земли между реками Днепр и Дунай;

та часть света, которая расположена от севера до юга;

между Варяжским и Каспийским морем;

от моря Ледоватого, которое дале Москвы, до моря Венецкова, которое море называем Адриатцкое, меж которыми теми реками наши народы нашего языка живут;

от моря Варяжскаго и до моря Хвалынскаго;

крайны от полночнаго моря великаго окияна Ледовитаго аж до моря Влоскаго скалнего полуденнаго;

вся страны от полунощнаго окиянскаго ледовитаго моря даже до италийскаго полуденнага Каменскаго моря;

все краины от мора полночнаго великого Окиану Ледовитого, аж до мора Влоского, полуденного;

во всем пределе между великими морями и преславными реками;

от Немецкого моря... вплоть до Средиземного моря;

от Москвы и до Средиземного и Адриатического морей;

от Каспийского моря до Саксонии, и от моря Адриатического до Немецкого;

от моря Ледянаго аж до моря Междуземнаго и Адриятическаго, такожде от Балтийского моря аж до Междуземнаго и Чернаго и Хвалымскаго"

(Мыльников А.С. Указ. соч. С. 84, 275).

It's obvious now there will never be a legal community of Serbian municipalities

DD You. Left. Out. God. You spoke about religions and nations but. a person al. Relationship. with. the. Maker YHWH. didn't t enter your. equation you. miss the most important thing99

Skenderbeu

BELOW ARE EUROPEANS WHO WROTE AND GAVE THE TEXT OF THE GRAMOTA OF ALEXANDER TO THE SLAVS

Бельский: Bielski M., Kronika wssystkyego swyata, Krako'w, 1551, Bielski M., Kronika Polska, Krako'w, 1597;
Оржеховский: Orichovius S., Rerum Polonicarum, 1552. - In: Dlugoss
J., Historiae Polonica liber XIII... J.G.Krause, Lipsiae, 1712, т.2,III;
Циллениус: Cyllenius D., De vetere et recentiore scientia militari, Venetiis, 1559;
Сарницкий: Sarnicius S., Descriptio veteris et novae Poloniae, Cracoviae, 1585;
Папроцкий: Paprocky' B., Zrcadlo slawne'ho margrabstwy Morawske'ho, Olomouc, 1593;
Орбини: Orbini M., Il regno degli Slavi, Pesaro, 1601, и многие другие [562], с.84.

THE LATIN TEXT

LIST ALEXANDRA WELIKEHO.

My Alexander Filippa Kra'le Macedonske'ho w Knijz~etstwij znamenity Rzecke'ho Cysar~stwij zac~atel welikeho Jupitera Syn skrze Nectanabu oznameny pr~yznawatel Bragmansky'ch a' Stromu Slunce a Miesyce potlac~ytel Perskych a Medskych Kra'lowstwij Pa'n Swieta od wychodu Slunce az~ do za'padu od poledne az~ do puol nocy.
Oswijcene'mu pokolenij Slowanskemu a Jazyku gijch milost, pokog y take' pozdrawenij od na's a budu'cych nassych na'miestkuow po na's w zprawowa'nij Swieta. Protoz~e gste na'm wz~dycky pr~ytomni buli v Wijre prawdomluwnij w odienij Statec~nij nassy pomocnijcy Bogownij a nevstalij nalezeni byli da'wame a na wa's pr~enessyme wa'm swobodnie a na wiec~nost wssecku Kraginu Swieta

http://chronologia.org/xpon6/x6_05_1317.html

Skenderbeu : I think Rote that the Balcans' elites were all part of the Ottoman elite take for example our bejs and pasha.

Of cource they were ! It is exactly what I am trying to receive to all of you. But you prefer your small toys of the phantom heroes with plenty of questions left hanging. Since the Byzantine the Balkans were the Roman Empire itself. Simply metropolis of the Byzantine was the Balkans (99% of the territory) and Jerusalem-Troja-Tsargrad (1%) ... Everything else were the fems (colonies) of the Empire including Rus. Later situation changed and Dmitry I Ivanovic (Constantine I = Murat I) moved his religious capitol here. But in 1389 he was killed in Kosovo. It sounds strage until you start to analize and compare the biographies of the two. It is known that Constantine the Great made Christianity Imperial religion and so did Prince Dmitry Donskoy. Both were killed in battles against much bigger armies and bot have won the battles while hostile commanders were both killed ... Even the year of their death is the same. Constantine died in 337 while Dmitry died in 1389. In fact it is the same year. Fomenko has discovered 3 chronological shifts that I checked many times. Those are 1800 years in the history of Greece, 1052 years in the history of Europe and 330 years in Byzantine. Thus we have 1052+337 = 1389 ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Donskoy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murad_I

@ Rote That series of documentaries on Sulejman The Magnificent is worth watching. Looks like Sulejman had a Russian wife (like our Pacolli ha ha) but there was no evidence he had ever lived in Russia. Is there any evidence for this claim that he was Ivan III? Thank you Rote!

@ Dr. from Nis

I don`t doubt a second what you said and i support you 100% but there are still Sesejl`s hounds all over the place bragging that Milosevic`s tanks were so "successful" burning down entire villages.

Of course, i`m not saying is good to scratch old wounds but the real menance are not "keyboard warriors" who "fight" each other from Australia, US or Russia. The real threat are warmonger politicians.

Now Rote this is a key point: if Mehmet II spoke Russian and if there is any evidence for this. Because Sulejman might have helped the ambassador simply because he understood the whole situation. What do you think? Ok on the Rumelia thing and the division in "milliets". Our old authors all refer to Rumelia as the the ortodox east. Intriguing debate Rote and if you like Sting here is a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3IWwBsIWqg hey, you made me laugh with all my soul with your spontaneous rhymes on the shqiptar mountains covered with shqiptar snow that shines under the sun of freedom and welfare :)

Algebra genius - in a 4th degree polynomial equation, how many 0s one can find, theoretically speaking?

Hajj pilgriming and Hagia Sophia you said, hmmmm try to say that to the Balcans' christians and you'll see how they react! Anyways the most ridiculuos part of this story is that I've challenged to war Serbs on Kosovo while in fact I and many albanians are in these days fighting to fix our storage devices for water supply on the roofs of the palaces. Because of the albanian snow and the siberian freeze the tubes have freezed and many are broken and here we are without water!

Skenderbeu

Diploma of Alexander the Great to the Slavs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfCWEPuBiI

This strange man is formally right as after 26 minutes he invites all Slavs living higher than 36-th Parallel because all those lands were granted by Alexander the Great to the Slavs. In 15-16th centuries when Alexander lived Slavic tribes were not divided yet and acted as one.

Original text of the Gramota by Mauro Orbini edited in 1601 and entered the Index of forbidden books in 1603

http://blog.pravo.ru/blog/6879.html

It not only includes the list of the lands that he granted to the Slavs (all lands above 36-th Parallel) but also says that if anybody inhabits those lands they must become slaves to the Slavs and their children must be slaves to the Slavs till the end of time. This text was widely spread in Europe in the middle ages. What is interesting Alexander Filippovic speaks not as if he is one of the Slavs but one of the Roman Emperors who were above all.

The text is composed in the single official language of the Horde - Slovenski, called here as 'сербский извод церковного языка". Lands granted to the Slavs are called here as BELI SVET (WHITE WORLD) where white people lived while territories south of the 36-th parallel are called CHERNI SVET (BLACK WORLD) ...

M AC-E DON is composed of suffix M and words AK (white in Tatar) and DON (river, water in Rus) Thus Alexander of Macedon means Alexander of The White River i.e. VOLGA or OKA.

Skenderbeu : Hajj pilgriming and Hagia Sophia ...

I pay little attention to what some ethnical or religional groups will react. In fact the pills are much sweeter than most of you think. Hagia Sophia was the place where Andronicus-Christ expelled the traders from and it is described in the Bible. Hagia Sophia was also one of the two churches of Stanbul that have never been turned into mosques. It was family church of the Rus Sultans in their Topkapi court yard. Otherwise it's impossible to explain why Muslim Sultans took oath and were burried in the oldest Orthodox church where all the icons are still alive. Also if you are a Muslim you should know that in the begining Prophet Mohammad (Sultan Mehmet II) was praying towards Jerusalem and only after he qarreled with the Israelites he turned towards Mecca. It's almost true but it was not Mohammad himself but his Great grandson Suleiman who corrected Quran and Sunnah and turned towards Hidjaz captured by his father Selim I Yavuz (Grozny) in 1517. So Hajj to Mecca became natural since 16-17 centuries. Yet before 1811 (when the Mamelukes were crushed by the Brits) Arabs were not allowed to Mecca. During the Mamelukes Arabs were a caste of Slaves (a-rab) but after Suleiman they've got equal rights because they became Muslims. Finally the Quraishi Dynasty to which the Prophet belonged were the Rurikovici - "the white people that came from the north" as the Arab sources say. As I told you Prophet Mohammad was a Rus Saint too ...

Algebra genius - in a 4th degree polynomial equation, how many 0s one can find, theoretically speaking?

(Skenderbeu 1444, 19 January 2017 07:46)


By the way I too smiled when you shut the new mathematician up.

When you read my comments one question must arise HOW COULD IT BE THAT SO MUCH INFORMATION COULD BE FALSIFIED ? Unfortunately it became possible because of many reasons that I will say later. But it happens permanently even in 19-21 centuries.

After Napoleon wars when monarchy was restored in France the Bourbons made an attempt to expose things that no Bonapart had ever existed. It took them some 10 years to understand that in 19 century the trick does not work any longer. Because there was no more need to hide the history of the Horde and because there was no more unity among the western elites. Plus newspapers and books were widely spread at the times. Yet for 10 years the Bourbons re-wrote all Napoleon documents as if signed by the French kings ... It means that they were experienced enough in changing the past!

So did the Romanovs after defeating one of the last hordes in 1775. They exposed war against Great Tartaria as a peasant riot of Pugachev. Then they forbade any mentioning of the war and exposed that Great Tartaria had never existed but was a part of the Simbirsk province. So the province became 3-4 times bigger than the rest of then Russia.

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Skenderbeu

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In 1869 the Portugese and the Dutch ivaded Japan killing all Rus Samurais and exposed it as a civil war. One blond boy survived and the US shoot a film THE LAST SAMURAI. He lived 91 years and now we have foto of an absolutely European man - the last man of the Ippon Horde from Isu province of the nindjas. See the Ainu people and ask yourself how much do they look like the Japanese?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people

The last of all the Hordes was the Chinese one. But collective forces of Russia, Britain, France ect. have destroyed it in 1911. Today we know it as the Boxer's Riot that took away some 40 000 000 lives ...

Many young Americans believe that the USA was the first to open the space and that the USSR fought on the German side in WW2. Young French think that the USA tribute most to defeat the Nazi while 37% of the young Japanese are sure that it was the USSR who dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Obama refused to apology last year because it could destroy the US propaganda.

Look at the Chetniks! One have to prove that they weren't camels. All forgot that the Chetniks were the first to rebel against the nazi and to grant the USSR another peaceful month. They discuss some tactical episodes with the Germans. It's a part of the demonization process of the Serbs who were almost single allies of the USSR on the battlefield. And they suffered second big combat losses in WW2. More than the USA who led two parallel wars.

@BahriCalm down man! I rarely write comments but everytime I open comment section I see your hate, cruelty and ignorance! I am a doctor in Nis. Do you know how many Albanians from Presevo and Kosovo I meet everyday at my clinic? I help to all people, no matter what religion, name or etc is about that person. We help everyday to lot of Albanians, and here I see your hate and plans about Serbia. Calm down, in Serbia live so many people who have nothing to do with war on Kosovo or Great Serbia. We just want to live better.

@BahriCalm down man! I rarely write comments but everytime I open comment section I see your hate, cruelty and ignorance! I am a doctor in Nis. Do you know how many Albanians from Presevo and Kosovo I meet everyday at my clinic? I help to all people, no matter what religion, name or etc is about that person. We help everyday to lot of Albanians, and here I see your hate and plans about Serbia. Calm down, in Serbia live so many people who have nothing to do with war on Kosovo or Great Serbia. We just want to live better.
(Dr from Nis, 17 January 2017 18:21)

Dr from Nis,

Great point as well many Serbs live in Kosovo normally, just that this forum has far right from both sides Serb and Albanians.

The issue is that most do not like to hear the other side, I commend you for doing the right thing.

@Dr from Nis
Hello Dr.
I as well barely write comments, but just wanted to thank you for the work you're doing and sharing your thoughts here.

War sucks and as well nationalism, which is growing in the world again.
So nice to hear people like you that don't let themselves be fooled by politicians. And i know that there are a lot of people like you on both sides, the problem is that these kind of comment sections usually attract the people that are far right to comment.

Wishing you all the best and best regards from an Albanian living in Western Europe.
:)

That's the point Rote: it is so strange that some nations appear to pop up from nothing in late 16th 17th centuries. Also if it is true what we've been told that the original Turks were barbaric arabic hordes that came to Turkey, how come that these hordes became the greatest empire of all time, seizing most of the civilized world and arriving to Vienna? On the other hand maybe for Turkey the rest of the east was just Rumelia as we all used to call it. Still strange that they mentioned Albanians like Arnaut and didn't mention their neighbors. So strange because at least the ottoman archives are considered to be very accurate and detailed.

Unless Rote they considered Russians as belonging to their same "milet" ?! Otherwise it's not normal at all that those ottoman chronicles didn't ever mentioned Rus people as separate and distinguished neighbor before 16th century. I didnt find almost nothing on Ivan III online while there's a lot of information on Ivan IV the Terrible. Although I think the most terrible of them was actually Sulejman who killed his own son.

This is too much information for my poor arnaut head Rote but I like them and I will read them. How do you know that sultans spoke serbian church language? When you find some time of course and now it is too late.

Rote, you took the bait, you poor little russian troll.. haha.
I know you like to share your conspiracy theories every now and then, but normally nobody cares.

This time you must have thought you hit the jackpot when Skenderbeu was: "wow really, please tell me more" and you just went all crazy and kept posting sh*t.. priceless :)

Right now I sincerely feel sorry for you.

Algebra genius - in a 4th degree polynomial equation, how many 0s one can find, theoretically speaking?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 19 January 2017 07:46)

I wouldn't call myself genius. Regarding your questions, I don't see how that adds value to the topic, but I'll let you and rote figure it out :)

I am very sorry for interrupting whatever you two have going on here, please resume.

Rote and Skenda... sitting on a tree

I think Rote that the Balcans' elites were all part of the Ottoman elite take for example our bejs and pasha. Of course Serbs were also part of the Ottoman elite but have you heard them crying for Kosovo Polje battle? And they are not alone on this as that is what Albanian christians say as well. We fought you didn't, we died you converted for power, we were the oppressed you oppressed us with the turks. If you are curious and ask them what was the oppression about when they were a respected cast of traders even under the Sultans, they will reply "yes but because we are dynamic and smart people, you were part of the military, we focused on the trade and arts"!

I have not recovered yet from the gramota of Alexander Filipovic Rote, considering all my anger for these snakes of our macedonian neighbors. Is there any evidence that prophet Mohammed was a Russian saint?

Skenderbeu: crying for Kosovo Polje battle

I saw no mediaeval sorces about the battle other than in the Russian Letopisni Svod

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illustrated_Chronicle_of_Ivan_the_Terrible

Like the famous Angora battle of 1402 it happened during the civil war in the Great Horde (1370-1415). So seeking Shqiptars and Serbs or Croats is counter productive. To say nothing that islam appeared in 16-th century only.

In 1340 Bati Khan ( Karl the Great) suddenly died in Vatican where he had established the instituytion of the Roman Popes. He was Calif i.e. military, civil and religious head of the Horde. Thus he left without heritage all 3 branches of the state power.

His son Alexander Nevski aka Simeon Gordi aka Hannibal Berke (Han of the Whites) aka Ludwig of Bavaria added Egypt and China to the empire and appointed the governors to every colony. Guess the Njemanici were such ones.

Alexander's son Ivan Krotki (1353-59) was father of Dmitry/ Murad/ Constantine. He introduced monetary system and started to build the famous Roman roads. He died when Prince Dmitry was a child and it was the time when epidemies started.

The Horde split for 3 parts: Golden (Volga, Syberia, Central Asia, Caucasus), Blue (Ukraine) and White (Moscow, n-w Rus, Poland, Byelorus, Prussia, Baltic) of which formally the main was the White Horde. But Dmitry was too young and had regents while his two uncles ruled the remaining hordes the way they liked.

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Skenderbeu : crying for Kosovo Polje battle - 2

Dmitry was was eager to restore the empire of his great grandfather and his Gengis Khan (St.George) brother. In 1370 he proclaimed that Jesus meant all people to be equal. It was a shock for other Rurikovici who had considered Christianity as their Royal family religion. Since 1372 conflicts between the White horde of Dmitry and Kniazia Riazanskie of the Golden Horde started to increase. It brought to the Greatest battle in the mediaeval history on Kulikovo Field where later Moscow was built. Same cruicial battle is described in the biography of Constantine I. All the details but the names and the toponymals were the same. Prince Dmitry used wooden canons and won the battle. He was very persistent in destroying the Golden Horde and bringing to order the Blue Horde of the future Sultans. All 3 hordes were ruled by the Rjurikovici including Mehmet II. Same 1380 Prince Dmitry moved his religious capitol to Jerusalem-Troy-Tsargrad and called it Constantinople in his own honor. Constantine was one of his ancestors. So he took his Greek patriarch and ruled the Empire from there. As I said the war lasted till 1415 when the two armied stood on Ugra River to establish peace under the rule of the Whites aka Albabians. But it happened during Vasili I aka Bayased I - elder son of Dmitry. Long before that Dmitry was killed in Kosovo by someone who fought for the Early Christians aka Pagans and for the Golden Horde.

Skenderbeu

One last thing. I don't think that there was much difference between the Slavs in 15 century so Mehmet II could quite be a Macedonian too. If we accept that Tamerlane and Mehmet II were one man then it will be interesting to see what names Tamerlane used.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD

As you can see he had 9 names in different regions : «Великий Эмир», Бек, Мирза, Абу Мансур, Абу Фатих, Абу Гази, Сахиб-и Кирани, Хаган, Гете Стани, Султан, Искандар Ул Ахад, Гурган ... Where Искандар Ул Ахад means Alexander the Great ... Абу Мансур means Son of Man Syrian = Son of Rus because for several centuries Rus Mamelukes ruled these lands and Sur is the Arab reading of word Rus .... Абу Фатих means Son of the Conqueror where Fatih is the official title of both Mehmet II and Prophet Mohammad ... Абу Гази can be interpreted as Son of Cossack as in the old texts Kaz/Kas was often used for Cossack ... There are European portraits of Tamerlane where he looks a blonde in Rus cloths.

http://maxpark.com/community/7285/content/5255055

https://irenecaesar.wordpress.com/tag/%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8B/

Skenderbeu

I feel sorry for and I went thruogh it 7-8 years ago ... You need this book. They give plenty of documents and facts that Tamerlane and Mehmet II were one man ... both Russians. In this book there are texts of the prayors for the sake of this Rus Saint worshipped in the Russian churches and they give also portraits of the two. Unfortunately in the link you will not find the full text.

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For the time being I can offer only the Russian text.

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Skenerbeu

1444 in your nick name nust mean The League of Lezhe. I should say that I am very sceptic about it. Even if it really existed words Albanian and Skenerbeu most likely had other meanings. Yet I suppose that we cannot ignore the fact that the Shqiptars call themselves Albanians. Balkans were something special for the Horde because the Rjurikovici felt themselves descendants of the Romey Empire that as I said was an absolutely Balkan Empire.

In no other place they've built so many churches and monasteries and no other place they cared so much like the Balkans and Tsar Grad. After the 40 year Reconquista (exodus of Israelites in Bible) started in 1415 they never moved forward untill the peninsula was brought to order. See Adrianopole (Erdine) where the sultans were born and (what I don't believe) burried. Mehmet II (what I don't believe) was killed near Belgrade ect.

Thus the Balkans was a place where their hearts belonged to. So after it was re-submitted by 1453 all local peoples must have became Albanians. It was the only way to survive. Important is that in that 40 year war that ended in Santiago de Compostella both sides were mostly Slavs headed by the Rjurikovici. It was a war between the metropolis and it colonies that stopped to obey and pay taxes during the civil war of 1370-1415. The League of Lezhe could be a union of the former governors of the Horde who now fought the Whites and were defeated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C_bilo7O9A

Concerning period of 1444 I once again tried to reveal who was who. It's a real problem not only because names are get mixed but also the periods of reign. Yet I think that Murad II and Dmitry II Shemiaka were one man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Shemyaka

In 1451 the Lezhe League stopped to exist not because of internal but because of the external problems. By that time Balkans were already submitted to Veliki Novgorod/Turks. It was also period when contradictions between the Rurikovici ruling from Constantinople and those in Veliki Novgorod reached to a peak.

As I wrote in 1445 the Greek patriarch of the Horde flew to Constantinople and relations ever worsened. Constantinople had little chance to survive and that's why in 1448 local patriarch Nicolas V flew to Vatican. He took there great part of the library of the Byzantine and the gold of the Horde kept there. He revived the institution of Popes and started his anti-horde propaganda. He bought lands and built Vatican that was his property in the begining. What chances could the Albanian (Shqiptar) league have ? I think zero ...

I mean to say is that we must see the events in the context to understand their meaning. Also we must know what words meant in the past. Think we could avoid lots of problems now. Even words CONTEXT that I used here sounds like CON'S TEXT ... So in the context of smth must mean to be in coordination with Khan's text (order) I think.