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Tuesday, 03.01.2017.

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"Crucified Kosovo, our national cradle, remains our country"

The patriarch of the Serbian Orthodox Church (SPC), Irinej, on Tuesday sent his Christmas message urging believers to live in mutual "brotherly" love.

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J

pre 7 godina

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.
(sj, 9 January 2017 10:09)

Serbs always find excuses about licking Ottoman boots for centuries.
(J, 9 January 2017 13:23)

Get an education before trying history on me mate. Your outright ignorance stands out like the Eiffel Tower on a sunny day.
(sj, 10 January 2017 08:22)

Typical Serb bullcrap. Fight the argument not the person. If you don't like the argument fight it. I'm sorry I forgot, you're a Serb. You know everything better than everyone else, especially history. You know like your other Serb colleague in these B92 forums with a PhD in Sweden who claims only he knows everything about everything.

The argument is: Serb Kings marrying their daughters with the Ottomans equals licking the boots of the Ottomans. The floor is yours to argue against that statement.

I'll make another one. Albanians fighting Turks under Scanderbeg for 25 years in Albanian lands while Serb kings were marrying their daughters to the Ottomans equals Albanian not coming in the Balkans with the Turks. Otherwise that would mean the Serb kings marrying their daughters to Albanians and licking Albanian boots.

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sj

pre 7 godina

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.
(sj, 9 January 2017 10:09)

Serbs always find excuses about licking Ottoman boots for centuries.
(J, 9 January 2017 13:23)

Get an education before trying history on me mate. Your outright ignorance stands out like the Eiffel Tower on a sunny day.

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rote

pre 7 godina

In 15-18 centuries Serbs were the Ottomans themselves. But they remember only the 19th century of Tanzimat Period when the Sultans began to suck. See the history of Adrianopole on the Balkans where most famous sultans were BORN and what is more important BURRIED. They call it a Greek-Bulgar city but all Slavs were called Bulgars in 15-16 centuries ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edirne#Notable_people

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J

pre 7 godina

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.
(sj, 9 January 2017 10:09)

Serbs always find excuses about licking Ottoman boots for centuries.

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Joni

pre 7 godina

With these kind of people on the head of Orthodox Serbian church, it will not take too much that Orthodoxism is Serbia will fall in the level of terrorism, and will be treated like such in Europe.

Beware on sending your sons listen to the predictions of this man, if not sooner or later he will send them to kill and blow up in the air the same as some radical imams send the muslims guys.
Serbia is under a radicalization threat the same way the muslims are. If Serbians in diaspora don’t see that they are just fools, there will not be another justification.... neither Rusia will help you again.
And this man should be the most peaceful Serb?

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sj

pre 7 godina

This churches belonged to the church of Rome. Until 7 the century where taken by Serbian invaders who converted to orthodox Christianity. So you are not telling the truth.
(Ari, 9 January 2017 06:29)

Where do you get these stories from? It was ONE church prior to the schism mate.

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sj

pre 7 godina

You mean when the Serb kings were giving their daughters to the Sultans' ? That's when we came?
(J, 6 January 2017 02:11)

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.

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sj

pre 7 godina

The Albani tribe lived around the region of the city of Kruja. It was an Illyrian tribe. Also Greece is called Hellas, ellada etc. Why did they change their name? Why does Albanian have ancient Greek words? Hmmmm.
(J, 6 January 2017 13:37)

So what are you saying that Greek is actually Albanian?

It’s because that is what happens when you have a society that is further advanced in laws, education, science and philosophy. Others tend to copy words, culture etc. When Romans conquered Greece they adopted Greek culture not Illyrian or Albanian and wealthy Romans employed Greeks to educate their children. The Cyrillic alphabet is based on the Greek alphabet. Today we have for example the word Telephone which is derived from a Greek word and there are thousands of other examples.

The Serbian Emperor Stefan Dusan controlled nearly 80% of Greece at one time and in his court Greek was the spoken language. Is this sinking in yet?

Have you ever wondered why we have German words in our language today? Why are we so influenced by US culture hmmmmmmmm? Same reason mate. Or do you think Albanians built the Parthenon?

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sj

pre 7 godina

Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade while Albanians numbers go into reverse.
sj

How and why hasn't Serbia already done so?
(cry me a river, 5 January 2017 16:18)

One word. Money. Serbia has not been in a financial position to do that, but very soon that will change. The last time I saw the rate of reindustrialisation of a country on the scale what is occurring in Serbia was China. Naturally, I’m not saying Serbia is anywhere on the same scale as China, but the number of industries opening in Serbia is phenomenal. Everything from manufacturing of furniture, meat processing, food processing, car part industries to pharmaceutical has, or in the process of, relocating to Serbia. Investors will not open a can of Coke in Croatia so you can see what chances Kosovo has.

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Ari

pre 7 godina

This churches belonged to the church of Rome. Until 7 the century where taken by Serbian invaders who converted to orthodox Christianity. So you are not telling the truth.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Jugoslavija: Albani inhabited also the mountain valleys and the land to the north towards Sarmatia, the modern Daghestan (Pliny vi. 39).

Pliny lived in Toscana during Renaissance. You can see it in the language he wrote and in some of the events that he discribed. Same with the Herodotus who described the eruption of Vesuvio in 1680. Dagestan is a Rus name and mediaeval Dagestanians were Rus Cossacks.

Sarmatia was one of the names of the Vladimir-Suzdal Princedome where Mother Mary was from. It was the heart of the White (Albanian) Horde. Word Sarmatia is composed of two Rus words Sar (Tsar) Mat (Mother) + "ia" = land. It makes LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER. The Greek name of the Tsar was Andronicus I Komnin but he spent most of his life in Rus land called Egypt and his Rus name was Andrey Bogoliubsky. Yet he is better known as Andrew the Apostle and Prophet(Jesus) Crussiafied (Christ) but those were his postlife names given by the Greeks. Anyway Sarmatia and Albania were one place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Bogolyubsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronikos_I_Komnenos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

By the way Russia/Rus has always been called Дом Пресвятой Богородицы so Sarmatia (LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER) sounds natural. To sweet you the pill I have to say that her husband Isaak II Komnin (Bible Issak) most likely was Greek Romey.

http://www.orthedu.ru/knigi/rossdom/rossiadom.htm

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rote

pre 7 godina

Jugoslavija: Albani inhabited also the mountain valleys and the land to the north towards Sarmatia, the modern Daghestan (Pliny vi. 39).

Pliny lived in Toscana during Renaissance. You can see it in the language he wrote and in some of the events that he discribed. Same with the Herodotus who described the eruption of Vesuvio in 1680. Dagestan is a Rus name and mediaeval Dagestanians were Rus Cossacks.

Sarmatia was one of the names of the Vladimir-Suzdal Princedome where Mother Mary was from. It was the heart of the White (Albanian) Horde. Word Sarmatia is composed of two Rus words Sar (Tsar) Mat (Mother) + "ia" = land. It makes LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER. The Greek name of the Tsar was Andronicus I Komnin but he spent most of his life in Rus land called Egypt and his Rus name was Andrey Bogoliubsky. Yet he is better known as Andrew the Apostle and Prophet(Jesus) Crussiafied (Christ) but those were his postlife names given by the Greeks. Anyway Sarmatia and Albania were one place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Bogolyubsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronikos_I_Komnenos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

By the way Russia/Rus has always been called Дом Пресвятой Богородицы so Sarmatia (LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER) sounds natural. To sweet you the pill I have to say that her husband Isaak II Komnin (Bible Issak) most likely was Greek Romey.

http://www.orthedu.ru/knigi/rossdom/rossiadom.htm

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rote

pre 7 godina

ALBANIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCASUS-AZERBAIJAN
(Jugoslavija, 6 January 2017 23:13)

That's great since that is not that far from where Serbs came from.
(icj1, 7 January 2017 16:20)


At least 80% of the Albanians were of Rus/Slav origin. One way or another word Albania is met on all continents and only the Great (Albanian Roman Mongol Tatar Turkic) Horde could do it. Albania in Caucasus was just one such Albanias and they merely had anything to do with the Azerbaijan people who in 20th century still called themselves as Tatars. Best if yoy compare the happlogroups of the two.

I've found above 200 toponymals of the word White/ Alba/ Laba/ Ak ect. Shqiptars could quite be one of the Albanians but not the majors. Capitols of the Albanians (Rostov Veliki, Suzdal, Vladimir, Kosroma, Kolomna, Veliki Novgorod, Moscow) were always on banks of two rivers - Volga (Valga, Balga, Belga) and Oka (Ak). Both of them mean WHITE one in Rus and the other in Tatar/Turkic.

All Rus people and the minorities freely spoke Turkic that most likely was one of the artificial languages of the Horde. Caucasians and Balkan peoples also were of the Whites but it had no ethnical sound. It only aimed at the troops that someone belonged. Most likely Serbs arrived to the Balkans from the east and like other Semites the Shqips came here from the south. Then both of you got mixed with the locals.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

You have to keep reminding these Albanian clowns where they came from;

ALBANIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCASUS-AZERBAIJAN
(Jugoslavija, 6 January 2017 23:13)

That's great since that is not that far from where Serbs came from.

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

You have to keep reminding these Albanian clowns where they came from;

ALBANIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCASUS-AZERBAIJAN

ALBANIA, the ancient name of a district in the eastern Caucasus, consisting, according to Strabo (xi. 4. 1-8), of the valley of the Cyrus (Kur) and the land lying between it and the Caucasus range from Iberia to the Caspian Sea, i. e. the modern Shirvan. In reality the Albani inhabited also the mountain valleys and the land to the north towards Sarmatia, the modern Daghestan (Pliny vi. 39).

http://azerbaijans.com/content_353_en.html

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RK

pre 7 godina

Damn ari gold, rote it's smacking you around and you are folded like a cheap suit . I was going to ask you who's your daddy ,but now I know

(Tony Pocesta, 6 January 2017 14:43)



May God bless you all and may peace embrace you all !!!

(rote, 6 January 2017 14:57)

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rote

pre 7 godina

I am not sure that Christmas is a proper word for the moment. Christ is the Greek for Crusifixion/Crusified while we have a life giving holiday. In Russia we celebrate РОЖДЕСТВО ХРИСТОВО and it's closer to the sence though РОЖДЕСТВО ГОСПОДНЕ also sounds. So must be in other Orthodox lands I think that's why I tell you HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!! May God bless you all and may peace embrace you all !!!

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Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Damn ari gold, rote it's smacking you around and you are folded like a cheap suit . I was going to ask you who's your daddy ,but now I know

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J

pre 7 godina

Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians, but if you look at the surrounding peoples such as Greeks who have been around over 2000 in that region and yet they are still called Greeks, but "Illyrians" changed their name to Albanians. That is what does not wash with me. Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21

The Albani tribe lived around the region of the city of Kruja. It was an Illyrian tribe. Also Greece is called Hellas, ellada etc. Why did they change their name? Why does Albanian have ancient Greek words? Hmmmm.

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justhetruth

pre 7 godina

To sj
Like I Said before send a link where it says Serbs or Slavic did arrive In balkans before Albanians I will except from Russian USA or Eu or any other historian book just prove it to me that's all..please not fairly tails..
(justhteruth, 4 January 2017 22:09)

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans. If you read what I wrote I was questioning your claim that Albanians have been there for thousands of years.

Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians, but if you look at the surrounding peoples such as Greeks who have been around over 2000 in that region and yet they are still called Greeks, but "Illyrians" changed their name to Albanians. That is what does not wash with me. Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21
Damn they are Illyrians Albanians you didn't know that? oh really so you don't know when serbs arrive in ballkan.. if not what a f..k you know about history !!!

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J

pre 7 godina

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans ... Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians ... Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21)

You mean when the Serb kings were giving their daughters to the Sultans' ? That's when we came?

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rote

pre 7 godina

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans ... Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians ... Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21)


1. After the civil war of 1380-1415 (included Kosovo Battle ) the Roman Horde sent troops to bring their European colonies back to order. In the western chronicles this 39 year long war reflected as Reconquista (= resubmittion to the khan) but later the story was rewritten you know. In the Bible it was described as the Exodus of the Israelites (Rus) under Moses and as 12 tribes (columns) of Israel. De facto imperial Rus troops fought the colonial Rus troops and all Balkan peoples sided the empire. More than that all 12 columns were first comcentrated on the Barlkans (White Khans) where the reconquista started from. Most likely Serbs and the Shqiptars arrived together. Because 2 tribes were formed in Judea (Turkey) and 10 in Israel (Rus).The war ended in 1455 in Santiago de Compostella called the end of the land then. In it honor the Horde constructed St. James Church on which outside wall still there's a metal map of how the hordes moved in the war. They call it routs of St. James piligrim. It's so funny because no one is able to cover 100 000 km on foot. To say nothing of the 9 swords entering the main lands in Europe on the map.

continued

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rote

pre 7 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic is Patriarch Irinej and I claim my 5000 Dinars.
(Andy UK, 4 January 2017 13:57)


Andy UK, Congratulations, you are correct. … According to Fomenkin, sj was Mickey Mouse and Ari Gold was Svengali.
(rote, 5 January 2017 06:05)

Don't you find that two ROTES may be too much for this forum ?
Fomenko is a south Russian second name but not FOMENKIN ...
What is Svengali and how is it cooked?

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rote

pre 7 godina

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans ... Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians ... Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21)


2/ Next time that peoples of Balkans could fight side by side was 1485 during the epidemy of the bubonic plague. Building the famous Roman roads the empire created a problem that threatened the whole world. Diseases from China or Africa could easily reach any part of the world. Even in Veliki Novgorod members of the Great Prince family started to die. So a great expedition was formed to clean the epidemic regions. Those were the Balkans and South Europe. It was the second time that the Empire fought it own troops in Europe during 15 century. If in the early century the task was to make them pay the taxes again this time it was much worse. The Empire killed it own soldiers and servants to stop the epidemy. But Rus/Slavs who had been put to rule the lands just decades earlier had no sins. They payed the taxes and obeyed the Horde so they fought back. Yet the lands were cleaned. New wave of the colonists was sent from Rus to inhabit the empty lands. This process entered the Rus history as РАЗДАЧА НОВГОРОДСКИХ ЗЕМЕЛЬ БОЯРАМ аnd it was the second chance for the Balkan peoples (including the Slavic Illiryans) to appear here.

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Albanian Orthodox

pre 7 godina

Ohh come on I gave up on this dudes when I saw my priest this Sunday getting drunk to the point he hardly was talking. Everything gets holy when you're high lols

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cry me a river

pre 7 godina

Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade while Albanians numbers go into reverse.
sj

How and why hasn't Serbia already done so?

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icj1

pre 7 godina

China is about to open its bank in Belgrade which will be the HQ for Europe and there is not enough room here to explain just how important that is.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:43)

Yeah, I agree that mere mortals cannot grasp the analysis that only the brilliant mind of the CE of B92 forums sj can produce :)
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Serbia can offer to assist with 3 children and in a decade the population would recover.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:43)

Well, Serbia can't properly feed the children it currently has, let alone provide assistance for more children in the future, in addition to the spending that the most patriotic of Serbs are advocating for Kosovo's re-integration!
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I have news for you all western countries have a declining populations
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:43)

And so is Russia under Vlad!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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sj

pre 7 godina

To sj
Like I Said before send a link where it says Serbs or Slavic did arrive In balkans before Albanians I will except from Russian USA or Eu or any other historian book just prove it to me that's all..please not fairly tails..
(justhteruth, 4 January 2017 22:09)

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans. If you read what I wrote I was questioning your claim that Albanians have been there for thousands of years.

Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians, but if you look at the surrounding peoples such as Greeks who have been around over 2000 in that region and yet they are still called Greeks, but "Illyrians" changed their name to Albanians. That is what does not wash with me. Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

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sj

pre 7 godina

(Reader, 4 January 2017 20:28)

To increase the population requires increased economic activity which is what is occurring in Serbia. External companies are opening facilities in Serbia at a fast pace, from pharmaceuticals, meat processing to manufacturing. China is about to open its bank in Belgrade which will be the HQ for Europe and there is not enough room here to explain just how important that is.
I met people in Serbia that were of both mind sets; some were optimistic while others pessimistic. However, you appear to say here that even though Kosovo has no economic activity people are having more children and if so you are wrong. Young Albanians in Kosovo are not marrying early and when they do they only have one or two children. In fact the problems of population is starting to surface in Albania. People do not want to sacrifice lifestyles for masses of children. Yes there are still some that have large families but that is a thing of the past. I have been to Kosovo and Albania too.
Holland adopted a measure to reduce the number of Muslims born in that country by simply announcing that the Government would asist with 3 children only so any more its up to the parents to find the money. Birth rates dropped. Serbia can offer to assist with 3 children and in a decade the population would recover.
I have news for you all western countries have a declining populations so its not all due to the economy.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic is Patriarch Irinej and I claim my 5000 Dinars.
(Andy UK, 4 January 2017 13:57)


Andy UK,
Congratulations, you are correct.
According to Fomenkin, sj was Mickey Mouse and Ari Gold was Svengali.

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justhteruth

pre 7 godina

To sj
Like I Said before send a link where it says Serbs or Slavic did arrive In balkans before Albanians I will except from Russian USA or Eu or any other historian book just prove it to me that's all..please not fairly tails..

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Reader

pre 7 godina

Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade.
(sj, 4 January 2017 12:36)

My two cents on this, o wise know-it-all. To increase the population, you need a somewhat optimistic situation in the country, at least economically. You need men and women that will think that their children will have a better life than they did. Now, since you have been to Serbia, here is a question for you:

how optimistic are Serbs as a people? Or, in different terms, how depressed are Serbs as a people?

Considering the last wars that Serbia started and lost, the constant gore and pain and victimhood spewing from the Serbian Church, the constant bickering fueled by mediocre politicians and media, I would say not much optimism is left in Serbia.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Serbia will liberate her holy land
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)

What do you mean by "will"?! Isn't it already Serbia?
(icj1, 3 January 2017 17:27)

It is.
(Ari Gold, 4 January 2017 00:19)

So what do you mean by "will" then? "is" and "will" are not the same thing :)
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And whom would Serbia liberate it from?!
(icj1, 3 January 2017 17:27)

From the foreign occupier. Those who do not want Albanians and Serbs to both continue living on Kosovo-Metohija!
(Ari Gold, 4 January 2017 00:19)

And who is this foreign occupier?!

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rote

pre 7 godina

Correction: His true name is Ayatollah Irene Bin LadinoVIC😳
(Azir, 4 January 2017 03:30)

Ayatollah is a Shia title for the mullahs and it is lower than Sheikh ul-Islam. Anyway the Bin Ladens are severe Sunni clan. By the way Laden means the same tree that we use to odor our churches.

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sj

pre 7 godina

It just shows out of touch you Albanians have become thinking that numbers matter. To live in the 21 century you need an education and without it your children will live on farms ploughing with oxen or mules, or starve. To have an education you need money and Tito is dead so you are not getting anything for free.

The world is changing thanks to your fellow Muslims from the middle east who thought that once in Germany they will never have to work again and social security heaven. Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade while Albanians numbers go into reverse.

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RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"i always come to this forum just for laugh
Ari gold,in 50 year the will not be any serbs left so why bother am 35 year old and i have 6 boys
Our population is growing up fast let see serbia in 50 or 100 years to come....

Ari we are waiting for you :)
Haris"

Your comment reminded me on one sad thing I heard and that is that most intelligent have two kids by family while less intelligent tend to have more kids by family. Ge, you said something. . .

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Haris

pre 7 godina

i always come to this forum just for laugh
Ari gold,in 50 year the will not be any serbs left so why bother am 35 year old and i have 6 boys
Our population is growing up fast let see serbia in 50 or 100 years to come....

Ari we are waiting for you :)

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sj

pre 7 godina

dude not you or your next generation can be able to do anything to Albanians let me REFRESH the memory if you have any, first Albanians are like native people of Europe Albanians for millenniums they survive the occupation(don't make me count all the occupiers) they lost land to the thieves but never the language,culture and why in the f,,k world are you so sure when other for thousand of years couldn't hold forever the Albanians under they rules and you are believing in such a fairly tail let me remind to all of you Albanians they where born a free people who lived they lives in there one way and never brought from no one in the Europe if am wrong ill be very glad if someone can prove me wrong so PROVE ME WRONG.. send a link or anything can challenge what I'm saying and I will eat my word..happy new year..
(juthetruth, 4 January 2017 06:30)


Yes you are right Albanian Egyptians built the Pyramids while Albanian Assyrians constructed the hanging gardens of Babylon. Since you have lived in that region since pre dinosaur times why have you guys not left a cave painting or fountain. There are Greek and Roman structures, but nothing to connect Albanians.
Or for that matter why have you change your name from Illyrians to Albanians. Serbs existed 200 years ago so did the Greeks and yet they never changed their name but you guys did.

No wonder you guys and the Croats are the masters of BS.

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juthetruth

pre 7 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem and Serbia will liberate her holy land when the people empower better leaders
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)
dude not you or your next generation can be able to do anything to Albanians let me REFRESH the memory if you have any, first Albanians are like native people of Europe Albanians for millenniums they survive the occupation(don't make me count all the occupiers) they lost land to the thieves but never the language,culture and why in the f,,k world are you so sure when other for thousand of years couldn't hold forever the Albanians under they rules and you are believing in such a fairly tail let me remind to all of you Albanians they where born a free people who lived they lives in there one way and never brought from no one in the Europe if am wrong ill be very glad if someone can prove me wrong so PROVE ME WRONG.. send a link or anything can challenge what I'm saying and I will eat my word..happy new year..

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Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

What do you mean by "will"?! Isn't it already Serbia? And whom would Serbia liberate it from?!
(icj1, 3 January 2017 17:27)


It is. From the foreign occupier. Those who do not want Albanians and Serbs to both continue living on Kosovo-Metohija!

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azir

pre 7 godina

Ayatollah Irene Bin Laden will never succeed in convincing the world Serbia deserves another round of Bombings to bring them to there senses....

Serbs ought to know better this time around...

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azir

pre 7 godina

Ayatollah Irene Bin Laden will never succeed in convincing the world Serbia deserves another round of Bombings to bring them to there senses....

Serbs ought to know better this time around...

THIS OLD MAN IS SENILE. ..

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Arn.Sweden.

pre 7 godina

"Crucified Kosovo" - Is Crucified Srbia - "Kosovo Je Srbia" - and here Srbia will Rise again.

Revelation 6
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder, one of the four living beings saying, “Come and see!”
2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him, and he went forth conquering and to conquer

You Will See !.

Arn.Sweden.

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PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN

pre 7 godina

This old bearded radical rat, can go back to his true cradle back in the marshland's of mother Russia!!! Kosova "AKA DARDANIA" belongs to and is the cradle & Jerusalem of the Albanian nation you old blasphemer, using the lord gods name in vein you parasitic cancer like microbe!!!
KOSOVA IS, HAS ALWAYS, AND WILL ALWAYS REMAIN ALBANIAN, PERIOD!!!
Unless however Serbia has the power to unleash a Hiroshima or Nagasaki type atomic blast upon the Albanian nation??? Otherwise, we shall soak these lands in Serbian blood before we allow a Serbian occupation of Albanian lands again!!! We both have grown accustom to this ritual of shedding blood!
http://reformation.edu/albania/pages/early-christianity-albania.htm

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J

pre 7 godina

Ayatollah Irenej with this speech just turned the Serbian churches in Kosova into political institutions. They are now simply offices of the party of Vucic, Nikolic, Vulin, and the other 100 Serb parties. As a result they are no longer special. They're just another set of buildings where Serb political propaganda takes place. We see them for what they are. The moment Ayatollah Irenjej delved into politics is the moment those churches stopped being churches.

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Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Crna Gora Vaje si Bila Snama!!!

Bravo Ari, Slavic Brotherhood, only Liberty and Peace for Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans, that is simply all we desire nothing more and nothing less!!!

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)

Of course, dear, of course. Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem; Montenegro is Serbia's Jerusalem; Macedonia is Serbia's Jerusalem; Bosnia and Herzegovina is Serbia's Jerusalem; Croatia is Serbia's Jerusalem; Greece is Serbia's Jerusalem... The only thing that is bit Serbia's Jerusalem is Serbia itself lol
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Serbia will liberate her holy land
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)

What do you mean by "will"?! Isn't it already Serbia? And whom would Serbia liberate it from?!

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Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem and Serbia will liberate her holy land when the people empower better leaders to run the country. It has been taken several times throughout history, but everytime it has came back whenever Serbs smartened up and advanced the nation to greater heights. Such will be the case again undoubtedly, but Serbs must first better themselves before we are deserving of our holy Kosovo-Metohija.

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Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem and Serbia will liberate her holy land when the people empower better leaders to run the country. It has been taken several times throughout history, but everytime it has came back whenever Serbs smartened up and advanced the nation to greater heights. Such will be the case again undoubtedly, but Serbs must first better themselves before we are deserving of our holy Kosovo-Metohija.

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J

pre 7 godina

Ayatollah Irenej with this speech just turned the Serbian churches in Kosova into political institutions. They are now simply offices of the party of Vucic, Nikolic, Vulin, and the other 100 Serb parties. As a result they are no longer special. They're just another set of buildings where Serb political propaganda takes place. We see them for what they are. The moment Ayatollah Irenjej delved into politics is the moment those churches stopped being churches.

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azir

pre 7 godina

Ayatollah Irene Bin Laden will never succeed in convincing the world Serbia deserves another round of Bombings to bring them to there senses....

Serbs ought to know better this time around...

THIS OLD MAN IS SENILE. ..

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azir

pre 7 godina

Ayatollah Irene Bin Laden will never succeed in convincing the world Serbia deserves another round of Bombings to bring them to there senses....

Serbs ought to know better this time around...

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sj

pre 7 godina

dude not you or your next generation can be able to do anything to Albanians let me REFRESH the memory if you have any, first Albanians are like native people of Europe Albanians for millenniums they survive the occupation(don't make me count all the occupiers) they lost land to the thieves but never the language,culture and why in the f,,k world are you so sure when other for thousand of years couldn't hold forever the Albanians under they rules and you are believing in such a fairly tail let me remind to all of you Albanians they where born a free people who lived they lives in there one way and never brought from no one in the Europe if am wrong ill be very glad if someone can prove me wrong so PROVE ME WRONG.. send a link or anything can challenge what I'm saying and I will eat my word..happy new year..
(juthetruth, 4 January 2017 06:30)


Yes you are right Albanian Egyptians built the Pyramids while Albanian Assyrians constructed the hanging gardens of Babylon. Since you have lived in that region since pre dinosaur times why have you guys not left a cave painting or fountain. There are Greek and Roman structures, but nothing to connect Albanians.
Or for that matter why have you change your name from Illyrians to Albanians. Serbs existed 200 years ago so did the Greeks and yet they never changed their name but you guys did.

No wonder you guys and the Croats are the masters of BS.

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Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Crna Gora Vaje si Bila Snama!!!

Bravo Ari, Slavic Brotherhood, only Liberty and Peace for Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans, that is simply all we desire nothing more and nothing less!!!

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PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN

pre 7 godina

This old bearded radical rat, can go back to his true cradle back in the marshland's of mother Russia!!! Kosova "AKA DARDANIA" belongs to and is the cradle & Jerusalem of the Albanian nation you old blasphemer, using the lord gods name in vein you parasitic cancer like microbe!!!
KOSOVA IS, HAS ALWAYS, AND WILL ALWAYS REMAIN ALBANIAN, PERIOD!!!
Unless however Serbia has the power to unleash a Hiroshima or Nagasaki type atomic blast upon the Albanian nation??? Otherwise, we shall soak these lands in Serbian blood before we allow a Serbian occupation of Albanian lands again!!! We both have grown accustom to this ritual of shedding blood!
http://reformation.edu/albania/pages/early-christianity-albania.htm

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)

Of course, dear, of course. Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem; Montenegro is Serbia's Jerusalem; Macedonia is Serbia's Jerusalem; Bosnia and Herzegovina is Serbia's Jerusalem; Croatia is Serbia's Jerusalem; Greece is Serbia's Jerusalem... The only thing that is bit Serbia's Jerusalem is Serbia itself lol
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Serbia will liberate her holy land
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)

What do you mean by "will"?! Isn't it already Serbia? And whom would Serbia liberate it from?!

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Arn.Sweden.

pre 7 godina

"Crucified Kosovo" - Is Crucified Srbia - "Kosovo Je Srbia" - and here Srbia will Rise again.

Revelation 6
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder, one of the four living beings saying, “Come and see!”
2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him, and he went forth conquering and to conquer

You Will See !.

Arn.Sweden.

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justhteruth

pre 7 godina

To sj
Like I Said before send a link where it says Serbs or Slavic did arrive In balkans before Albanians I will except from Russian USA or Eu or any other historian book just prove it to me that's all..please not fairly tails..

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Haris

pre 7 godina

i always come to this forum just for laugh
Ari gold,in 50 year the will not be any serbs left so why bother am 35 year old and i have 6 boys
Our population is growing up fast let see serbia in 50 or 100 years to come....

Ari we are waiting for you :)

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sj

pre 7 godina

It just shows out of touch you Albanians have become thinking that numbers matter. To live in the 21 century you need an education and without it your children will live on farms ploughing with oxen or mules, or starve. To have an education you need money and Tito is dead so you are not getting anything for free.

The world is changing thanks to your fellow Muslims from the middle east who thought that once in Germany they will never have to work again and social security heaven. Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade while Albanians numbers go into reverse.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Serbia will liberate her holy land
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)

What do you mean by "will"?! Isn't it already Serbia?
(icj1, 3 January 2017 17:27)

It is.
(Ari Gold, 4 January 2017 00:19)

So what do you mean by "will" then? "is" and "will" are not the same thing :)
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And whom would Serbia liberate it from?!
(icj1, 3 January 2017 17:27)

From the foreign occupier. Those who do not want Albanians and Serbs to both continue living on Kosovo-Metohija!
(Ari Gold, 4 January 2017 00:19)

And who is this foreign occupier?!

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Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

What do you mean by "will"?! Isn't it already Serbia? And whom would Serbia liberate it from?!
(icj1, 3 January 2017 17:27)


It is. From the foreign occupier. Those who do not want Albanians and Serbs to both continue living on Kosovo-Metohija!

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juthetruth

pre 7 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem and Serbia will liberate her holy land when the people empower better leaders
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)
dude not you or your next generation can be able to do anything to Albanians let me REFRESH the memory if you have any, first Albanians are like native people of Europe Albanians for millenniums they survive the occupation(don't make me count all the occupiers) they lost land to the thieves but never the language,culture and why in the f,,k world are you so sure when other for thousand of years couldn't hold forever the Albanians under they rules and you are believing in such a fairly tail let me remind to all of you Albanians they where born a free people who lived they lives in there one way and never brought from no one in the Europe if am wrong ill be very glad if someone can prove me wrong so PROVE ME WRONG.. send a link or anything can challenge what I'm saying and I will eat my word..happy new year..

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RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"i always come to this forum just for laugh
Ari gold,in 50 year the will not be any serbs left so why bother am 35 year old and i have 6 boys
Our population is growing up fast let see serbia in 50 or 100 years to come....

Ari we are waiting for you :)
Haris"

Your comment reminded me on one sad thing I heard and that is that most intelligent have two kids by family while less intelligent tend to have more kids by family. Ge, you said something. . .

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Reader

pre 7 godina

Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade.
(sj, 4 January 2017 12:36)

My two cents on this, o wise know-it-all. To increase the population, you need a somewhat optimistic situation in the country, at least economically. You need men and women that will think that their children will have a better life than they did. Now, since you have been to Serbia, here is a question for you:

how optimistic are Serbs as a people? Or, in different terms, how depressed are Serbs as a people?

Considering the last wars that Serbia started and lost, the constant gore and pain and victimhood spewing from the Serbian Church, the constant bickering fueled by mediocre politicians and media, I would say not much optimism is left in Serbia.

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J

pre 7 godina

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans ... Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians ... Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21)

You mean when the Serb kings were giving their daughters to the Sultans' ? That's when we came?

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sj

pre 7 godina

To sj
Like I Said before send a link where it says Serbs or Slavic did arrive In balkans before Albanians I will except from Russian USA or Eu or any other historian book just prove it to me that's all..please not fairly tails..
(justhteruth, 4 January 2017 22:09)

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans. If you read what I wrote I was questioning your claim that Albanians have been there for thousands of years.

Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians, but if you look at the surrounding peoples such as Greeks who have been around over 2000 in that region and yet they are still called Greeks, but "Illyrians" changed their name to Albanians. That is what does not wash with me. Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

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cry me a river

pre 7 godina

Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade while Albanians numbers go into reverse.
sj

How and why hasn't Serbia already done so?

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sj

pre 7 godina

(Reader, 4 January 2017 20:28)

To increase the population requires increased economic activity which is what is occurring in Serbia. External companies are opening facilities in Serbia at a fast pace, from pharmaceuticals, meat processing to manufacturing. China is about to open its bank in Belgrade which will be the HQ for Europe and there is not enough room here to explain just how important that is.
I met people in Serbia that were of both mind sets; some were optimistic while others pessimistic. However, you appear to say here that even though Kosovo has no economic activity people are having more children and if so you are wrong. Young Albanians in Kosovo are not marrying early and when they do they only have one or two children. In fact the problems of population is starting to surface in Albania. People do not want to sacrifice lifestyles for masses of children. Yes there are still some that have large families but that is a thing of the past. I have been to Kosovo and Albania too.
Holland adopted a measure to reduce the number of Muslims born in that country by simply announcing that the Government would asist with 3 children only so any more its up to the parents to find the money. Birth rates dropped. Serbia can offer to assist with 3 children and in a decade the population would recover.
I have news for you all western countries have a declining populations so its not all due to the economy.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

China is about to open its bank in Belgrade which will be the HQ for Europe and there is not enough room here to explain just how important that is.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:43)

Yeah, I agree that mere mortals cannot grasp the analysis that only the brilliant mind of the CE of B92 forums sj can produce :)
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Serbia can offer to assist with 3 children and in a decade the population would recover.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:43)

Well, Serbia can't properly feed the children it currently has, let alone provide assistance for more children in the future, in addition to the spending that the most patriotic of Serbs are advocating for Kosovo's re-integration!
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I have news for you all western countries have a declining populations
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:43)

And so is Russia under Vlad!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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J

pre 7 godina

Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians, but if you look at the surrounding peoples such as Greeks who have been around over 2000 in that region and yet they are still called Greeks, but "Illyrians" changed their name to Albanians. That is what does not wash with me. Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21

The Albani tribe lived around the region of the city of Kruja. It was an Illyrian tribe. Also Greece is called Hellas, ellada etc. Why did they change their name? Why does Albanian have ancient Greek words? Hmmmm.

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

You have to keep reminding these Albanian clowns where they came from;

ALBANIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCASUS-AZERBAIJAN

ALBANIA, the ancient name of a district in the eastern Caucasus, consisting, according to Strabo (xi. 4. 1-8), of the valley of the Cyrus (Kur) and the land lying between it and the Caucasus range from Iberia to the Caspian Sea, i. e. the modern Shirvan. In reality the Albani inhabited also the mountain valleys and the land to the north towards Sarmatia, the modern Daghestan (Pliny vi. 39).

http://azerbaijans.com/content_353_en.html

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icj1

pre 7 godina

You have to keep reminding these Albanian clowns where they came from;

ALBANIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCASUS-AZERBAIJAN
(Jugoslavija, 6 January 2017 23:13)

That's great since that is not that far from where Serbs came from.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Correction: His true name is Ayatollah Irene Bin LadinoVIC😳
(Azir, 4 January 2017 03:30)

Ayatollah is a Shia title for the mullahs and it is lower than Sheikh ul-Islam. Anyway the Bin Ladens are severe Sunni clan. By the way Laden means the same tree that we use to odor our churches.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic is Patriarch Irinej and I claim my 5000 Dinars.
(Andy UK, 4 January 2017 13:57)


Andy UK,
Congratulations, you are correct.
According to Fomenkin, sj was Mickey Mouse and Ari Gold was Svengali.

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Albanian Orthodox

pre 7 godina

Ohh come on I gave up on this dudes when I saw my priest this Sunday getting drunk to the point he hardly was talking. Everything gets holy when you're high lols

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rote

pre 7 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic is Patriarch Irinej and I claim my 5000 Dinars.
(Andy UK, 4 January 2017 13:57)


Andy UK, Congratulations, you are correct. … According to Fomenkin, sj was Mickey Mouse and Ari Gold was Svengali.
(rote, 5 January 2017 06:05)

Don't you find that two ROTES may be too much for this forum ?
Fomenko is a south Russian second name but not FOMENKIN ...
What is Svengali and how is it cooked?

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justhetruth

pre 7 godina

To sj
Like I Said before send a link where it says Serbs or Slavic did arrive In balkans before Albanians I will except from Russian USA or Eu or any other historian book just prove it to me that's all..please not fairly tails..
(justhteruth, 4 January 2017 22:09)

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans. If you read what I wrote I was questioning your claim that Albanians have been there for thousands of years.

Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians, but if you look at the surrounding peoples such as Greeks who have been around over 2000 in that region and yet they are still called Greeks, but "Illyrians" changed their name to Albanians. That is what does not wash with me. Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21
Damn they are Illyrians Albanians you didn't know that? oh really so you don't know when serbs arrive in ballkan.. if not what a f..k you know about history !!!

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Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Damn ari gold, rote it's smacking you around and you are folded like a cheap suit . I was going to ask you who's your daddy ,but now I know

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rote

pre 7 godina

I am not sure that Christmas is a proper word for the moment. Christ is the Greek for Crusifixion/Crusified while we have a life giving holiday. In Russia we celebrate РОЖДЕСТВО ХРИСТОВО and it's closer to the sence though РОЖДЕСТВО ГОСПОДНЕ also sounds. So must be in other Orthodox lands I think that's why I tell you HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!! May God bless you all and may peace embrace you all !!!

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J

pre 7 godina

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.
(sj, 9 January 2017 10:09)

Serbs always find excuses about licking Ottoman boots for centuries.

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rote

pre 7 godina

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans ... Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians ... Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21)


1. After the civil war of 1380-1415 (included Kosovo Battle ) the Roman Horde sent troops to bring their European colonies back to order. In the western chronicles this 39 year long war reflected as Reconquista (= resubmittion to the khan) but later the story was rewritten you know. In the Bible it was described as the Exodus of the Israelites (Rus) under Moses and as 12 tribes (columns) of Israel. De facto imperial Rus troops fought the colonial Rus troops and all Balkan peoples sided the empire. More than that all 12 columns were first comcentrated on the Barlkans (White Khans) where the reconquista started from. Most likely Serbs and the Shqiptars arrived together. Because 2 tribes were formed in Judea (Turkey) and 10 in Israel (Rus).The war ended in 1455 in Santiago de Compostella called the end of the land then. In it honor the Horde constructed St. James Church on which outside wall still there's a metal map of how the hordes moved in the war. They call it routs of St. James piligrim. It's so funny because no one is able to cover 100 000 km on foot. To say nothing of the 9 swords entering the main lands in Europe on the map.

continued

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rote

pre 7 godina

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans ... Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians ... Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21)


2/ Next time that peoples of Balkans could fight side by side was 1485 during the epidemy of the bubonic plague. Building the famous Roman roads the empire created a problem that threatened the whole world. Diseases from China or Africa could easily reach any part of the world. Even in Veliki Novgorod members of the Great Prince family started to die. So a great expedition was formed to clean the epidemic regions. Those were the Balkans and South Europe. It was the second time that the Empire fought it own troops in Europe during 15 century. If in the early century the task was to make them pay the taxes again this time it was much worse. The Empire killed it own soldiers and servants to stop the epidemy. But Rus/Slavs who had been put to rule the lands just decades earlier had no sins. They payed the taxes and obeyed the Horde so they fought back. Yet the lands were cleaned. New wave of the colonists was sent from Rus to inhabit the empty lands. This process entered the Rus history as РАЗДАЧА НОВГОРОДСКИХ ЗЕМЕЛЬ БОЯРАМ аnd it was the second chance for the Balkan peoples (including the Slavic Illiryans) to appear here.

end

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RK

pre 7 godina

Damn ari gold, rote it's smacking you around and you are folded like a cheap suit . I was going to ask you who's your daddy ,but now I know

(Tony Pocesta, 6 January 2017 14:43)



May God bless you all and may peace embrace you all !!!

(rote, 6 January 2017 14:57)

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rote

pre 7 godina

Jugoslavija: Albani inhabited also the mountain valleys and the land to the north towards Sarmatia, the modern Daghestan (Pliny vi. 39).

Pliny lived in Toscana during Renaissance. You can see it in the language he wrote and in some of the events that he discribed. Same with the Herodotus who described the eruption of Vesuvio in 1680. Dagestan is a Rus name and mediaeval Dagestanians were Rus Cossacks.

Sarmatia was one of the names of the Vladimir-Suzdal Princedome where Mother Mary was from. It was the heart of the White (Albanian) Horde. Word Sarmatia is composed of two Rus words Sar (Tsar) Mat (Mother) + "ia" = land. It makes LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER. The Greek name of the Tsar was Andronicus I Komnin but he spent most of his life in Rus land called Egypt and his Rus name was Andrey Bogoliubsky. Yet he is better known as Andrew the Apostle and Prophet(Jesus) Crussiafied (Christ) but those were his postlife names given by the Greeks. Anyway Sarmatia and Albania were one place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Bogolyubsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronikos_I_Komnenos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

By the way Russia/Rus has always been called Дом Пресвятой Богородицы so Sarmatia (LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER) sounds natural. To sweet you the pill I have to say that her husband Isaak II Komnin (Bible Issak) most likely was Greek Romey.

http://www.orthedu.ru/knigi/rossdom/rossiadom.htm

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Ari

pre 7 godina

This churches belonged to the church of Rome. Until 7 the century where taken by Serbian invaders who converted to orthodox Christianity. So you are not telling the truth.

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J

pre 7 godina

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.
(sj, 9 January 2017 10:09)

Serbs always find excuses about licking Ottoman boots for centuries.
(J, 9 January 2017 13:23)

Get an education before trying history on me mate. Your outright ignorance stands out like the Eiffel Tower on a sunny day.
(sj, 10 January 2017 08:22)

Typical Serb bullcrap. Fight the argument not the person. If you don't like the argument fight it. I'm sorry I forgot, you're a Serb. You know everything better than everyone else, especially history. You know like your other Serb colleague in these B92 forums with a PhD in Sweden who claims only he knows everything about everything.

The argument is: Serb Kings marrying their daughters with the Ottomans equals licking the boots of the Ottomans. The floor is yours to argue against that statement.

I'll make another one. Albanians fighting Turks under Scanderbeg for 25 years in Albanian lands while Serb kings were marrying their daughters to the Ottomans equals Albanian not coming in the Balkans with the Turks. Otherwise that would mean the Serb kings marrying their daughters to Albanians and licking Albanian boots.

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rote

pre 7 godina

ALBANIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCASUS-AZERBAIJAN
(Jugoslavija, 6 January 2017 23:13)

That's great since that is not that far from where Serbs came from.
(icj1, 7 January 2017 16:20)


At least 80% of the Albanians were of Rus/Slav origin. One way or another word Albania is met on all continents and only the Great (Albanian Roman Mongol Tatar Turkic) Horde could do it. Albania in Caucasus was just one such Albanias and they merely had anything to do with the Azerbaijan people who in 20th century still called themselves as Tatars. Best if yoy compare the happlogroups of the two.

I've found above 200 toponymals of the word White/ Alba/ Laba/ Ak ect. Shqiptars could quite be one of the Albanians but not the majors. Capitols of the Albanians (Rostov Veliki, Suzdal, Vladimir, Kosroma, Kolomna, Veliki Novgorod, Moscow) were always on banks of two rivers - Volga (Valga, Balga, Belga) and Oka (Ak). Both of them mean WHITE one in Rus and the other in Tatar/Turkic.

All Rus people and the minorities freely spoke Turkic that most likely was one of the artificial languages of the Horde. Caucasians and Balkan peoples also were of the Whites but it had no ethnical sound. It only aimed at the troops that someone belonged. Most likely Serbs arrived to the Balkans from the east and like other Semites the Shqips came here from the south. Then both of you got mixed with the locals.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Jugoslavija: Albani inhabited also the mountain valleys and the land to the north towards Sarmatia, the modern Daghestan (Pliny vi. 39).

Pliny lived in Toscana during Renaissance. You can see it in the language he wrote and in some of the events that he discribed. Same with the Herodotus who described the eruption of Vesuvio in 1680. Dagestan is a Rus name and mediaeval Dagestanians were Rus Cossacks.

Sarmatia was one of the names of the Vladimir-Suzdal Princedome where Mother Mary was from. It was the heart of the White (Albanian) Horde. Word Sarmatia is composed of two Rus words Sar (Tsar) Mat (Mother) + "ia" = land. It makes LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER. The Greek name of the Tsar was Andronicus I Komnin but he spent most of his life in Rus land called Egypt and his Rus name was Andrey Bogoliubsky. Yet he is better known as Andrew the Apostle and Prophet(Jesus) Crussiafied (Christ) but those were his postlife names given by the Greeks. Anyway Sarmatia and Albania were one place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Bogolyubsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronikos_I_Komnenos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

By the way Russia/Rus has always been called Дом Пресвятой Богородицы so Sarmatia (LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER) sounds natural. To sweet you the pill I have to say that her husband Isaak II Komnin (Bible Issak) most likely was Greek Romey.

http://www.orthedu.ru/knigi/rossdom/rossiadom.htm

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Joni

pre 7 godina

With these kind of people on the head of Orthodox Serbian church, it will not take too much that Orthodoxism is Serbia will fall in the level of terrorism, and will be treated like such in Europe.

Beware on sending your sons listen to the predictions of this man, if not sooner or later he will send them to kill and blow up in the air the same as some radical imams send the muslims guys.
Serbia is under a radicalization threat the same way the muslims are. If Serbians in diaspora don’t see that they are just fools, there will not be another justification.... neither Rusia will help you again.
And this man should be the most peaceful Serb?

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rote

pre 7 godina

In 15-18 centuries Serbs were the Ottomans themselves. But they remember only the 19th century of Tanzimat Period when the Sultans began to suck. See the history of Adrianopole on the Balkans where most famous sultans were BORN and what is more important BURRIED. They call it a Greek-Bulgar city but all Slavs were called Bulgars in 15-16 centuries ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edirne#Notable_people

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sj

pre 7 godina

This churches belonged to the church of Rome. Until 7 the century where taken by Serbian invaders who converted to orthodox Christianity. So you are not telling the truth.
(Ari, 9 January 2017 06:29)

Where do you get these stories from? It was ONE church prior to the schism mate.

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sj

pre 7 godina

Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade while Albanians numbers go into reverse.
sj

How and why hasn't Serbia already done so?
(cry me a river, 5 January 2017 16:18)

One word. Money. Serbia has not been in a financial position to do that, but very soon that will change. The last time I saw the rate of reindustrialisation of a country on the scale what is occurring in Serbia was China. Naturally, I’m not saying Serbia is anywhere on the same scale as China, but the number of industries opening in Serbia is phenomenal. Everything from manufacturing of furniture, meat processing, food processing, car part industries to pharmaceutical has, or in the process of, relocating to Serbia. Investors will not open a can of Coke in Croatia so you can see what chances Kosovo has.

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sj

pre 7 godina

The Albani tribe lived around the region of the city of Kruja. It was an Illyrian tribe. Also Greece is called Hellas, ellada etc. Why did they change their name? Why does Albanian have ancient Greek words? Hmmmm.
(J, 6 January 2017 13:37)

So what are you saying that Greek is actually Albanian?

It’s because that is what happens when you have a society that is further advanced in laws, education, science and philosophy. Others tend to copy words, culture etc. When Romans conquered Greece they adopted Greek culture not Illyrian or Albanian and wealthy Romans employed Greeks to educate their children. The Cyrillic alphabet is based on the Greek alphabet. Today we have for example the word Telephone which is derived from a Greek word and there are thousands of other examples.

The Serbian Emperor Stefan Dusan controlled nearly 80% of Greece at one time and in his court Greek was the spoken language. Is this sinking in yet?

Have you ever wondered why we have German words in our language today? Why are we so influenced by US culture hmmmmmmmm? Same reason mate. Or do you think Albanians built the Parthenon?

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sj

pre 7 godina

You mean when the Serb kings were giving their daughters to the Sultans' ? That's when we came?
(J, 6 January 2017 02:11)

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.

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sj

pre 7 godina

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.
(sj, 9 January 2017 10:09)

Serbs always find excuses about licking Ottoman boots for centuries.
(J, 9 January 2017 13:23)

Get an education before trying history on me mate. Your outright ignorance stands out like the Eiffel Tower on a sunny day.

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PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN

pre 7 godina

This old bearded radical rat, can go back to his true cradle back in the marshland's of mother Russia!!! Kosova "AKA DARDANIA" belongs to and is the cradle & Jerusalem of the Albanian nation you old blasphemer, using the lord gods name in vein you parasitic cancer like microbe!!!
KOSOVA IS, HAS ALWAYS, AND WILL ALWAYS REMAIN ALBANIAN, PERIOD!!!
Unless however Serbia has the power to unleash a Hiroshima or Nagasaki type atomic blast upon the Albanian nation??? Otherwise, we shall soak these lands in Serbian blood before we allow a Serbian occupation of Albanian lands again!!! We both have grown accustom to this ritual of shedding blood!
http://reformation.edu/albania/pages/early-christianity-albania.htm

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)

Of course, dear, of course. Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem; Montenegro is Serbia's Jerusalem; Macedonia is Serbia's Jerusalem; Bosnia and Herzegovina is Serbia's Jerusalem; Croatia is Serbia's Jerusalem; Greece is Serbia's Jerusalem... The only thing that is bit Serbia's Jerusalem is Serbia itself lol
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Serbia will liberate her holy land
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)

What do you mean by "will"?! Isn't it already Serbia? And whom would Serbia liberate it from?!

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Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem and Serbia will liberate her holy land when the people empower better leaders to run the country. It has been taken several times throughout history, but everytime it has came back whenever Serbs smartened up and advanced the nation to greater heights. Such will be the case again undoubtedly, but Serbs must first better themselves before we are deserving of our holy Kosovo-Metohija.

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azir

pre 7 godina

Ayatollah Irene Bin Laden will never succeed in convincing the world Serbia deserves another round of Bombings to bring them to there senses....

Serbs ought to know better this time around...

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azir

pre 7 godina

Ayatollah Irene Bin Laden will never succeed in convincing the world Serbia deserves another round of Bombings to bring them to there senses....

Serbs ought to know better this time around...

THIS OLD MAN IS SENILE. ..

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Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Crna Gora Vaje si Bila Snama!!!

Bravo Ari, Slavic Brotherhood, only Liberty and Peace for Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans, that is simply all we desire nothing more and nothing less!!!

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J

pre 7 godina

Ayatollah Irenej with this speech just turned the Serbian churches in Kosova into political institutions. They are now simply offices of the party of Vucic, Nikolic, Vulin, and the other 100 Serb parties. As a result they are no longer special. They're just another set of buildings where Serb political propaganda takes place. We see them for what they are. The moment Ayatollah Irenjej delved into politics is the moment those churches stopped being churches.

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Haris

pre 7 godina

i always come to this forum just for laugh
Ari gold,in 50 year the will not be any serbs left so why bother am 35 year old and i have 6 boys
Our population is growing up fast let see serbia in 50 or 100 years to come....

Ari we are waiting for you :)

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Arn.Sweden.

pre 7 godina

"Crucified Kosovo" - Is Crucified Srbia - "Kosovo Je Srbia" - and here Srbia will Rise again.

Revelation 6
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder, one of the four living beings saying, “Come and see!”
2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him, and he went forth conquering and to conquer

You Will See !.

Arn.Sweden.

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Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

What do you mean by "will"?! Isn't it already Serbia? And whom would Serbia liberate it from?!
(icj1, 3 January 2017 17:27)


It is. From the foreign occupier. Those who do not want Albanians and Serbs to both continue living on Kosovo-Metohija!

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juthetruth

pre 7 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's Jerusalem and Serbia will liberate her holy land when the people empower better leaders
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)
dude not you or your next generation can be able to do anything to Albanians let me REFRESH the memory if you have any, first Albanians are like native people of Europe Albanians for millenniums they survive the occupation(don't make me count all the occupiers) they lost land to the thieves but never the language,culture and why in the f,,k world are you so sure when other for thousand of years couldn't hold forever the Albanians under they rules and you are believing in such a fairly tail let me remind to all of you Albanians they where born a free people who lived they lives in there one way and never brought from no one in the Europe if am wrong ill be very glad if someone can prove me wrong so PROVE ME WRONG.. send a link or anything can challenge what I'm saying and I will eat my word..happy new year..

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sj

pre 7 godina

dude not you or your next generation can be able to do anything to Albanians let me REFRESH the memory if you have any, first Albanians are like native people of Europe Albanians for millenniums they survive the occupation(don't make me count all the occupiers) they lost land to the thieves but never the language,culture and why in the f,,k world are you so sure when other for thousand of years couldn't hold forever the Albanians under they rules and you are believing in such a fairly tail let me remind to all of you Albanians they where born a free people who lived they lives in there one way and never brought from no one in the Europe if am wrong ill be very glad if someone can prove me wrong so PROVE ME WRONG.. send a link or anything can challenge what I'm saying and I will eat my word..happy new year..
(juthetruth, 4 January 2017 06:30)


Yes you are right Albanian Egyptians built the Pyramids while Albanian Assyrians constructed the hanging gardens of Babylon. Since you have lived in that region since pre dinosaur times why have you guys not left a cave painting or fountain. There are Greek and Roman structures, but nothing to connect Albanians.
Or for that matter why have you change your name from Illyrians to Albanians. Serbs existed 200 years ago so did the Greeks and yet they never changed their name but you guys did.

No wonder you guys and the Croats are the masters of BS.

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sj

pre 7 godina

It just shows out of touch you Albanians have become thinking that numbers matter. To live in the 21 century you need an education and without it your children will live on farms ploughing with oxen or mules, or starve. To have an education you need money and Tito is dead so you are not getting anything for free.

The world is changing thanks to your fellow Muslims from the middle east who thought that once in Germany they will never have to work again and social security heaven. Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade while Albanians numbers go into reverse.

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sj

pre 7 godina

To sj
Like I Said before send a link where it says Serbs or Slavic did arrive In balkans before Albanians I will except from Russian USA or Eu or any other historian book just prove it to me that's all..please not fairly tails..
(justhteruth, 4 January 2017 22:09)

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans. If you read what I wrote I was questioning your claim that Albanians have been there for thousands of years.

Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians, but if you look at the surrounding peoples such as Greeks who have been around over 2000 in that region and yet they are still called Greeks, but "Illyrians" changed their name to Albanians. That is what does not wash with me. Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

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sj

pre 7 godina

(Reader, 4 January 2017 20:28)

To increase the population requires increased economic activity which is what is occurring in Serbia. External companies are opening facilities in Serbia at a fast pace, from pharmaceuticals, meat processing to manufacturing. China is about to open its bank in Belgrade which will be the HQ for Europe and there is not enough room here to explain just how important that is.
I met people in Serbia that were of both mind sets; some were optimistic while others pessimistic. However, you appear to say here that even though Kosovo has no economic activity people are having more children and if so you are wrong. Young Albanians in Kosovo are not marrying early and when they do they only have one or two children. In fact the problems of population is starting to surface in Albania. People do not want to sacrifice lifestyles for masses of children. Yes there are still some that have large families but that is a thing of the past. I have been to Kosovo and Albania too.
Holland adopted a measure to reduce the number of Muslims born in that country by simply announcing that the Government would asist with 3 children only so any more its up to the parents to find the money. Birth rates dropped. Serbia can offer to assist with 3 children and in a decade the population would recover.
I have news for you all western countries have a declining populations so its not all due to the economy.

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Reader

pre 7 godina

Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade.
(sj, 4 January 2017 12:36)

My two cents on this, o wise know-it-all. To increase the population, you need a somewhat optimistic situation in the country, at least economically. You need men and women that will think that their children will have a better life than they did. Now, since you have been to Serbia, here is a question for you:

how optimistic are Serbs as a people? Or, in different terms, how depressed are Serbs as a people?

Considering the last wars that Serbia started and lost, the constant gore and pain and victimhood spewing from the Serbian Church, the constant bickering fueled by mediocre politicians and media, I would say not much optimism is left in Serbia.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Correction: His true name is Ayatollah Irene Bin LadinoVIC😳
(Azir, 4 January 2017 03:30)

Ayatollah is a Shia title for the mullahs and it is lower than Sheikh ul-Islam. Anyway the Bin Ladens are severe Sunni clan. By the way Laden means the same tree that we use to odor our churches.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Serbia will liberate her holy land
(Ari Gold, 3 January 2017 16:10)

What do you mean by "will"?! Isn't it already Serbia?
(icj1, 3 January 2017 17:27)

It is.
(Ari Gold, 4 January 2017 00:19)

So what do you mean by "will" then? "is" and "will" are not the same thing :)
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And whom would Serbia liberate it from?!
(icj1, 3 January 2017 17:27)

From the foreign occupier. Those who do not want Albanians and Serbs to both continue living on Kosovo-Metohija!
(Ari Gold, 4 January 2017 00:19)

And who is this foreign occupier?!

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

You have to keep reminding these Albanian clowns where they came from;

ALBANIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCASUS-AZERBAIJAN

ALBANIA, the ancient name of a district in the eastern Caucasus, consisting, according to Strabo (xi. 4. 1-8), of the valley of the Cyrus (Kur) and the land lying between it and the Caucasus range from Iberia to the Caspian Sea, i. e. the modern Shirvan. In reality the Albani inhabited also the mountain valleys and the land to the north towards Sarmatia, the modern Daghestan (Pliny vi. 39).

http://azerbaijans.com/content_353_en.html

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RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"i always come to this forum just for laugh
Ari gold,in 50 year the will not be any serbs left so why bother am 35 year old and i have 6 boys
Our population is growing up fast let see serbia in 50 or 100 years to come....

Ari we are waiting for you :)
Haris"

Your comment reminded me on one sad thing I heard and that is that most intelligent have two kids by family while less intelligent tend to have more kids by family. Ge, you said something. . .

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justhteruth

pre 7 godina

To sj
Like I Said before send a link where it says Serbs or Slavic did arrive In balkans before Albanians I will except from Russian USA or Eu or any other historian book just prove it to me that's all..please not fairly tails..

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cry me a river

pre 7 godina

Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade while Albanians numbers go into reverse.
sj

How and why hasn't Serbia already done so?

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rote

pre 7 godina

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans ... Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians ... Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21)


1. After the civil war of 1380-1415 (included Kosovo Battle ) the Roman Horde sent troops to bring their European colonies back to order. In the western chronicles this 39 year long war reflected as Reconquista (= resubmittion to the khan) but later the story was rewritten you know. In the Bible it was described as the Exodus of the Israelites (Rus) under Moses and as 12 tribes (columns) of Israel. De facto imperial Rus troops fought the colonial Rus troops and all Balkan peoples sided the empire. More than that all 12 columns were first comcentrated on the Barlkans (White Khans) where the reconquista started from. Most likely Serbs and the Shqiptars arrived together. Because 2 tribes were formed in Judea (Turkey) and 10 in Israel (Rus).The war ended in 1455 in Santiago de Compostella called the end of the land then. In it honor the Horde constructed St. James Church on which outside wall still there's a metal map of how the hordes moved in the war. They call it routs of St. James piligrim. It's so funny because no one is able to cover 100 000 km on foot. To say nothing of the 9 swords entering the main lands in Europe on the map.

continued

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rote

pre 7 godina

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans ... Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians ... Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21)


2/ Next time that peoples of Balkans could fight side by side was 1485 during the epidemy of the bubonic plague. Building the famous Roman roads the empire created a problem that threatened the whole world. Diseases from China or Africa could easily reach any part of the world. Even in Veliki Novgorod members of the Great Prince family started to die. So a great expedition was formed to clean the epidemic regions. Those were the Balkans and South Europe. It was the second time that the Empire fought it own troops in Europe during 15 century. If in the early century the task was to make them pay the taxes again this time it was much worse. The Empire killed it own soldiers and servants to stop the epidemy. But Rus/Slavs who had been put to rule the lands just decades earlier had no sins. They payed the taxes and obeyed the Horde so they fought back. Yet the lands were cleaned. New wave of the colonists was sent from Rus to inhabit the empty lands. This process entered the Rus history as РАЗДАЧА НОВГОРОДСКИХ ЗЕМЕЛЬ БОЯРАМ аnd it was the second chance for the Balkan peoples (including the Slavic Illiryans) to appear here.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic is Patriarch Irinej and I claim my 5000 Dinars.
(Andy UK, 4 January 2017 13:57)


Andy UK, Congratulations, you are correct. … According to Fomenkin, sj was Mickey Mouse and Ari Gold was Svengali.
(rote, 5 January 2017 06:05)

Don't you find that two ROTES may be too much for this forum ?
Fomenko is a south Russian second name but not FOMENKIN ...
What is Svengali and how is it cooked?

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justhetruth

pre 7 godina

To sj
Like I Said before send a link where it says Serbs or Slavic did arrive In balkans before Albanians I will except from Russian USA or Eu or any other historian book just prove it to me that's all..please not fairly tails..
(justhteruth, 4 January 2017 22:09)

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans. If you read what I wrote I was questioning your claim that Albanians have been there for thousands of years.

Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians, but if you look at the surrounding peoples such as Greeks who have been around over 2000 in that region and yet they are still called Greeks, but "Illyrians" changed their name to Albanians. That is what does not wash with me. Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21
Damn they are Illyrians Albanians you didn't know that? oh really so you don't know when serbs arrive in ballkan.. if not what a f..k you know about history !!!

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rote

pre 7 godina

ALBANIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCASUS-AZERBAIJAN
(Jugoslavija, 6 January 2017 23:13)

That's great since that is not that far from where Serbs came from.
(icj1, 7 January 2017 16:20)


At least 80% of the Albanians were of Rus/Slav origin. One way or another word Albania is met on all continents and only the Great (Albanian Roman Mongol Tatar Turkic) Horde could do it. Albania in Caucasus was just one such Albanias and they merely had anything to do with the Azerbaijan people who in 20th century still called themselves as Tatars. Best if yoy compare the happlogroups of the two.

I've found above 200 toponymals of the word White/ Alba/ Laba/ Ak ect. Shqiptars could quite be one of the Albanians but not the majors. Capitols of the Albanians (Rostov Veliki, Suzdal, Vladimir, Kosroma, Kolomna, Veliki Novgorod, Moscow) were always on banks of two rivers - Volga (Valga, Balga, Belga) and Oka (Ak). Both of them mean WHITE one in Rus and the other in Tatar/Turkic.

All Rus people and the minorities freely spoke Turkic that most likely was one of the artificial languages of the Horde. Caucasians and Balkan peoples also were of the Whites but it had no ethnical sound. It only aimed at the troops that someone belonged. Most likely Serbs arrived to the Balkans from the east and like other Semites the Shqips came here from the south. Then both of you got mixed with the locals.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Jugoslavija: Albani inhabited also the mountain valleys and the land to the north towards Sarmatia, the modern Daghestan (Pliny vi. 39).

Pliny lived in Toscana during Renaissance. You can see it in the language he wrote and in some of the events that he discribed. Same with the Herodotus who described the eruption of Vesuvio in 1680. Dagestan is a Rus name and mediaeval Dagestanians were Rus Cossacks.

Sarmatia was one of the names of the Vladimir-Suzdal Princedome where Mother Mary was from. It was the heart of the White (Albanian) Horde. Word Sarmatia is composed of two Rus words Sar (Tsar) Mat (Mother) + "ia" = land. It makes LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER. The Greek name of the Tsar was Andronicus I Komnin but he spent most of his life in Rus land called Egypt and his Rus name was Andrey Bogoliubsky. Yet he is better known as Andrew the Apostle and Prophet(Jesus) Crussiafied (Christ) but those were his postlife names given by the Greeks. Anyway Sarmatia and Albania were one place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Bogolyubsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronikos_I_Komnenos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

By the way Russia/Rus has always been called Дом Пресвятой Богородицы so Sarmatia (LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER) sounds natural. To sweet you the pill I have to say that her husband Isaak II Komnin (Bible Issak) most likely was Greek Romey.

http://www.orthedu.ru/knigi/rossdom/rossiadom.htm

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rote

pre 7 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic is Patriarch Irinej and I claim my 5000 Dinars.
(Andy UK, 4 January 2017 13:57)


Andy UK,
Congratulations, you are correct.
According to Fomenkin, sj was Mickey Mouse and Ari Gold was Svengali.

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sj

pre 7 godina

This churches belonged to the church of Rome. Until 7 the century where taken by Serbian invaders who converted to orthodox Christianity. So you are not telling the truth.
(Ari, 9 January 2017 06:29)

Where do you get these stories from? It was ONE church prior to the schism mate.

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sj

pre 7 godina

You mean when the Serb kings were giving their daughters to the Sultans' ? That's when we came?
(J, 6 January 2017 02:11)

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.

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sj

pre 7 godina

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.
(sj, 9 January 2017 10:09)

Serbs always find excuses about licking Ottoman boots for centuries.
(J, 9 January 2017 13:23)

Get an education before trying history on me mate. Your outright ignorance stands out like the Eiffel Tower on a sunny day.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

China is about to open its bank in Belgrade which will be the HQ for Europe and there is not enough room here to explain just how important that is.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:43)

Yeah, I agree that mere mortals cannot grasp the analysis that only the brilliant mind of the CE of B92 forums sj can produce :)
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Serbia can offer to assist with 3 children and in a decade the population would recover.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:43)

Well, Serbia can't properly feed the children it currently has, let alone provide assistance for more children in the future, in addition to the spending that the most patriotic of Serbs are advocating for Kosovo's re-integration!
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I have news for you all western countries have a declining populations
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:43)

And so is Russia under Vlad!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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J

pre 7 godina

I did not question nor dispute when the Serbs arrived in the Balkans ... Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians ... Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.

(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21)

You mean when the Serb kings were giving their daughters to the Sultans' ? That's when we came?

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Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Damn ari gold, rote it's smacking you around and you are folded like a cheap suit . I was going to ask you who's your daddy ,but now I know

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rote

pre 7 godina

Jugoslavija: Albani inhabited also the mountain valleys and the land to the north towards Sarmatia, the modern Daghestan (Pliny vi. 39).

Pliny lived in Toscana during Renaissance. You can see it in the language he wrote and in some of the events that he discribed. Same with the Herodotus who described the eruption of Vesuvio in 1680. Dagestan is a Rus name and mediaeval Dagestanians were Rus Cossacks.

Sarmatia was one of the names of the Vladimir-Suzdal Princedome where Mother Mary was from. It was the heart of the White (Albanian) Horde. Word Sarmatia is composed of two Rus words Sar (Tsar) Mat (Mother) + "ia" = land. It makes LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER. The Greek name of the Tsar was Andronicus I Komnin but he spent most of his life in Rus land called Egypt and his Rus name was Andrey Bogoliubsky. Yet he is better known as Andrew the Apostle and Prophet(Jesus) Crussiafied (Christ) but those were his postlife names given by the Greeks. Anyway Sarmatia and Albania were one place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Bogolyubsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronikos_I_Komnenos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

By the way Russia/Rus has always been called Дом Пресвятой Богородицы so Sarmatia (LAND OF THE TSAR'S MOTHER) sounds natural. To sweet you the pill I have to say that her husband Isaak II Komnin (Bible Issak) most likely was Greek Romey.

http://www.orthedu.ru/knigi/rossdom/rossiadom.htm

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sj

pre 7 godina

The Albani tribe lived around the region of the city of Kruja. It was an Illyrian tribe. Also Greece is called Hellas, ellada etc. Why did they change their name? Why does Albanian have ancient Greek words? Hmmmm.
(J, 6 January 2017 13:37)

So what are you saying that Greek is actually Albanian?

It’s because that is what happens when you have a society that is further advanced in laws, education, science and philosophy. Others tend to copy words, culture etc. When Romans conquered Greece they adopted Greek culture not Illyrian or Albanian and wealthy Romans employed Greeks to educate their children. The Cyrillic alphabet is based on the Greek alphabet. Today we have for example the word Telephone which is derived from a Greek word and there are thousands of other examples.

The Serbian Emperor Stefan Dusan controlled nearly 80% of Greece at one time and in his court Greek was the spoken language. Is this sinking in yet?

Have you ever wondered why we have German words in our language today? Why are we so influenced by US culture hmmmmmmmm? Same reason mate. Or do you think Albanians built the Parthenon?

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Albanian Orthodox

pre 7 godina

Ohh come on I gave up on this dudes when I saw my priest this Sunday getting drunk to the point he hardly was talking. Everything gets holy when you're high lols

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J

pre 7 godina

Albanians claim they are the Ilyrians, but if you look at the surrounding peoples such as Greeks who have been around over 2000 in that region and yet they are still called Greeks, but "Illyrians" changed their name to Albanians. That is what does not wash with me. Albanians arrived with the Turks mate.
(sj, 5 January 2017 11:21

The Albani tribe lived around the region of the city of Kruja. It was an Illyrian tribe. Also Greece is called Hellas, ellada etc. Why did they change their name? Why does Albanian have ancient Greek words? Hmmmm.

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rote

pre 7 godina

I am not sure that Christmas is a proper word for the moment. Christ is the Greek for Crusifixion/Crusified while we have a life giving holiday. In Russia we celebrate РОЖДЕСТВО ХРИСТОВО and it's closer to the sence though РОЖДЕСТВО ГОСПОДНЕ also sounds. So must be in other Orthodox lands I think that's why I tell you HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!! May God bless you all and may peace embrace you all !!!

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sj

pre 7 godina

Serbia can increase its population in less than a decade while Albanians numbers go into reverse.
sj

How and why hasn't Serbia already done so?
(cry me a river, 5 January 2017 16:18)

One word. Money. Serbia has not been in a financial position to do that, but very soon that will change. The last time I saw the rate of reindustrialisation of a country on the scale what is occurring in Serbia was China. Naturally, I’m not saying Serbia is anywhere on the same scale as China, but the number of industries opening in Serbia is phenomenal. Everything from manufacturing of furniture, meat processing, food processing, car part industries to pharmaceutical has, or in the process of, relocating to Serbia. Investors will not open a can of Coke in Croatia so you can see what chances Kosovo has.

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Joni

pre 7 godina

With these kind of people on the head of Orthodox Serbian church, it will not take too much that Orthodoxism is Serbia will fall in the level of terrorism, and will be treated like such in Europe.

Beware on sending your sons listen to the predictions of this man, if not sooner or later he will send them to kill and blow up in the air the same as some radical imams send the muslims guys.
Serbia is under a radicalization threat the same way the muslims are. If Serbians in diaspora don’t see that they are just fools, there will not be another justification.... neither Rusia will help you again.
And this man should be the most peaceful Serb?

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rote

pre 7 godina

In 15-18 centuries Serbs were the Ottomans themselves. But they remember only the 19th century of Tanzimat Period when the Sultans began to suck. See the history of Adrianopole on the Balkans where most famous sultans were BORN and what is more important BURRIED. They call it a Greek-Bulgar city but all Slavs were called Bulgars in 15-16 centuries ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edirne#Notable_people

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RK

pre 7 godina

Damn ari gold, rote it's smacking you around and you are folded like a cheap suit . I was going to ask you who's your daddy ,but now I know

(Tony Pocesta, 6 January 2017 14:43)



May God bless you all and may peace embrace you all !!!

(rote, 6 January 2017 14:57)

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icj1

pre 7 godina

You have to keep reminding these Albanian clowns where they came from;

ALBANIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCASUS-AZERBAIJAN
(Jugoslavija, 6 January 2017 23:13)

That's great since that is not that far from where Serbs came from.

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Ari

pre 7 godina

This churches belonged to the church of Rome. Until 7 the century where taken by Serbian invaders who converted to orthodox Christianity. So you are not telling the truth.

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J

pre 7 godina

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.
(sj, 9 January 2017 10:09)

Serbs always find excuses about licking Ottoman boots for centuries.

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J

pre 7 godina

In those days it was a common practice to do just that. In fact if you look into history you will find Italian kings/Venetians did exactly just that so what is you point? Sorry Albanians are not Illyrians mate. No evidence whatsoever.
(sj, 9 January 2017 10:09)

Serbs always find excuses about licking Ottoman boots for centuries.
(J, 9 January 2017 13:23)

Get an education before trying history on me mate. Your outright ignorance stands out like the Eiffel Tower on a sunny day.
(sj, 10 January 2017 08:22)

Typical Serb bullcrap. Fight the argument not the person. If you don't like the argument fight it. I'm sorry I forgot, you're a Serb. You know everything better than everyone else, especially history. You know like your other Serb colleague in these B92 forums with a PhD in Sweden who claims only he knows everything about everything.

The argument is: Serb Kings marrying their daughters with the Ottomans equals licking the boots of the Ottomans. The floor is yours to argue against that statement.

I'll make another one. Albanians fighting Turks under Scanderbeg for 25 years in Albanian lands while Serb kings were marrying their daughters to the Ottomans equals Albanian not coming in the Balkans with the Turks. Otherwise that would mean the Serb kings marrying their daughters to Albanians and licking Albanian boots.

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