Serbian ambassador won't take Croatia's "insulting note"
Serbian Ambassador to Croatia Mira Nikolic has refused to receive a note from the Croatian Ministry of Foreign Affairs due to its "insulting content."
Source: Beta
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"On one hand, although Serbia is doing nothing that would provoke Croatia's reaction, Croatia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs has called our ambassador to deliver a note to her, and our ambassador has refused to take it, due to not only its insulting content, but also because of the insult itself, to all of Serbia," Dacic said, according to a Beta agency report.
The minister in the caretaker government added that Serbia was not provoking anyone, but reacting to what is happening in Croatia - "to all the judgments that lead to a rehabilitation of the fascist Ustasha NDH (Independent State of Croatia)."
Dacic said that Serbia will continue the policy of developing good-neighborly relations, but also of protecting its national and state interests.
"For the Germans, Hitler is a symbol of evil, and only in Croatia, the fascist NDH creation and her priest Stepinac are proclaimed heroes, martyrs and saints," said Dacic, who made the comments in Belgrade while attending the promotion of a book about Winston Churchill.
Earlier, Serbia sent a protest note after a Croatian court overturned the 1946 verdict against Catholic cleric Alojzije Stepninac, which was followed by a strong reaction from Croatia.
Croatian Foreign Minister Miro Kovac said it was "a cheap attempt to destabilize Croatia" adding that its language was "reminiscent of the times of Slobodan Milosevic."
There might be a couple of Ustasha still alive in Croatia but I doubt it. Reference to Ustasha is just Serb BS. The Serbs shelled Dubrovnik - which even the Turks and Monguls never did. They tried to destroy Vukovar. Serbs shelled the non-military target of the 13th century cathedral in Sibenik. They dug out the eyeballs of a Croatian soldier while they were torturing him.
(knin, 7 August 2016 22:54)
HAHAHA! As predicted, when asked to answer the several questions that I posted and reposted several time to icj, here's what his/her response was:
From icj: "The answer to your question "Is there something you didn't understand the last three times?" is no."
Just like clockwork, icj retorts with another of his/her meaningless statements and ducks the real questions. Suffice it to say that it is clearly obvious that you are incapable of defending your statements in our earlier debate. Not sure if that means your position was so weak you couldn't defend it, or that you're just dumb. Probably both!! LOL!!!!
(njegos, 3 August 2016 19:39)
From icj: "I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to..."
HAHAHA! I've posted and re-posted the same questions to you several times and now you are asking me to do it again? Is there something you didn't understand the last three times? You are a charlatan of the highest order! A fraudster who avoids, deflects and obfuscates.
(njegos, 3 August 2016 13:06)
Thank you for finally clarifying your question. I'm now in a position to help you again.
The answer to your question "Is there something you didn't understand the last three times?" is no.
So, now I've helped you twice, first in making you knowledgeable of the fact that Romania and Germany are different countries, and, second, in reassuring you that you were understandable the last three times. You should be thanking me for that, btw... no other forum members are taking the time help you improve your contributions :)
Any other questions you need help with?
(icj1, 3 August 2016 18:48)
From icj: "I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to..."
HAHAHA! I've posted and re-posted the same questions to you several times and now you are asking me to do it again? Is there something you didn't understand the last three times? You are a charlatan of the highest order! A fraudster who avoids, deflects and obfuscates.
I repeat, go back and answer the questions that I've REPEATEDLY asked of you or you will have been exposed as a fraud once again. My bet is that you will avoid the questions yet again and come back with some lame meaningless post of no value as per usual. Start typing, I know you won't disappoint me. LOL!!
(njegos, 3 August 2016 13:06)
I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to...
As a proof that I'm serious about helping other forum contributors, you included, I just helped you learn that Romania is not the same country as Germany!
(icj1, 2 August 2016 01:55)
Great! Now answer the question in my last post to you. And when you're done with that, answer the several others in previous posts that you've conveniently sidestepped and ran away from.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
I already helped you with your question and made you knowledgeable about the fact that Romania is not the same country as Germany.
If you have any other questions you so eagerly want an answer for, list them and I, for one, will do everything possible to help with an answer.
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Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
Yes, I agree that you should not hold your breath for an answer to a question, until you clarify what the question is :)
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Cowards like you have a tendency to disappear when unable to substantiate your weak position only to reappear again spewing your anti-Serb rhetoric on another thread. You're a gem.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
That's laughable coming from a Serb-hater like you! And, I have no idea what "weak position" or "anti-Serb" stuff you are referring to. You are more than welcome to point to one example!
(icj1, 2 August 2016 20:50)
From icj: "I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to..."
Great! Now answer the question in my last post to you. And when you're done with that, answer the several others in previous posts that you've conveniently sidestepped and ran away from. Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath. Cowards like you have a tendency to disappear when unable to substantiate your weak position only to reappear again spewing your anti-Serb rhetoric on another thread. You're a gem.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
From Adrian Kola: "Serbia never went through a de-Nazification process in the 00s like Germany did in the 50s and 60s."
Hey genius, when did Romania go through their de-Nazification process?
(njegos, 1 August 2016 18:01)
Just a small clarification since you appear not to be aware...
Germany is not the same country as Romania!
(icj1, 1 August 2016 20:10)
Please don't respond to, or address any comments to me until you go back and answer the several questions I posed to you before you ran off like the coward that you are.
(njegos, 1 August 2016 20:56)
I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to...
As a proof that I'm serious about helping other forum contributors, you included, I just helped you learn that Romania is not the same country as Germany!
(icj1, 2 August 2016 01:55)
To icj: Please don't respond to, or address any comments to me until you go back and answer the several questions I posed to you before you ran off like the coward that you are.
P.S. Are you still cutting and pasting other people's comments to change the meaning of their posts when you can't adequately defend your position honestly? You're a clown who has been completely discredited on this forum, yet you still come back. Even I feel embarrassed for you!!
(njegos, 1 August 2016 20:56)
From Adrian Kola: "Serbia never went through a de-Nazification process in the 00s like Germany did in the 50s and 60s."
Hey genius, when did Romania go through their de-Nazification process? Romania tried to play both sides during WWII and adopted a policy of nuetrality, then quickly caved in to Germany and allowed their oli fields to be used to fuel Hitler's war machine. As Germany gained momentum, Romania fully sided with the Nazis and gleefully participated in the slaughter and deportation of Jews. Toward the end of the war, your courageous countrymen then switched to the Allies. No backbone, no guts and no pride. That sums up Romanian military history. Hit the road Kola, you're a joke!
(njegos, 1 August 2016 18:01)
You Chetniks are the ones that insult everyone in Southern Europe, you are the ones that adopted policies of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Kosovares, the Croatians, Bosnians, Slovenes, and even penetrated into Albania itself!!!
(Peter the Rocky, 30 July 2016 22:56)
Waaa waaa waaa. You constantly poop your pants on this site Rocky. You don't even know what a Chetnik is, but considering your limited knowledge of history and your propensity to bitch and moan like a drama queen looking for attention, I'm pretty sure any help learning history would be lost on you. So once again, someone please change Rocky's diaper.
(Bullwinkle, 31 July 2016 00:20)
You Chetniks are the ones that insult everyone in Southern Europe, you are the ones that adopted policies of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Kosovares, the Croatians, Bosnians, Slovenes, and even penetrated into Albania itself!!! Our day of reckoning will soon arrive & then you radicals in Serbia will feel the pain that we felt in the 1990s & finally taste its bitterness, soon!!! God bless Croatia, Kosova, Slovenia, and Albania! P.S. Enjoy!
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(Peter the Rocky, 30 July 2016 22:56)
The post down below is so dumb! Yes milosevic was so honored he was sent to The Hague. Mladic so honored he was sent to The Hague. Karadzic so honored he was sent to The Hague. Seselj didn't get any help from Serbia! I believe his lawyer was American? Seselj party has 10 seats out of 250
(Brian, 30 July 2016 17:23)
guess the nazies were not compleatly destroyed in '45 after all. Its time Serbia prepares its military and heads west. Time to finish the job.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 09:58)
MikeC,
It seems you've forgotten that Serbia lost all four wars she was a party to during the 1990's. If Serbia heads West she will encounter the very military that vanquished her. Not a very bright move! Of course, if you would like to see Serbia humiliated once again, be my guest.
(The Count of Kosova, 30 July 2016 02:25)
What would you call someone who is fighting against a tyrannical army for its sheer existence?
Adrian kola
Oh please! Before the conflict escelayed in Kosovo serbs and albanians loyal to Serbia were kidnapped and tortured to death by albanian criminal terrorists. Serb churches were desecrated long before the war began. And Serbia should never recognize the theft of its territory. With you there can and should not be peace. Even though I don't always agree with what the serbs in Croatia did in the '90 they probably had in mind WW2 and Jasenovac. Serbs were afraid that an ustashe run Croatia would meen the end of their existence there. Serbs had every right to act to protect their interests and lives. We have all seen what Croatia finaly did to the serb minority there. In Bosnia Izetbegovic wanted an islamic state. He got a tiny territory who's only acheivement is sending his countrymen to terrorize the world. Don't even know why Belgrade is even trying to reason with nazies, islamists landgrabbing terrorists. I'd ask you all to go to hell.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 22:40)
Dacic Logic:
1) I say you are fascist, Hitler, Mussolini, bla bla bla. This is not an insult.
2) You say I sound like during Milosevic times. This is an insult.
Go figure.
Why is he still Foreign Minister? When were the elections in Serbia? Where is the new government that Serbs voted for, LOL.
(Reader, 29 July 2016 18:12)
“Why do you always go back to the '90 as a reference to the history of the balkans?“
What do you think the underlying reason is behind all this bickering between Serbia and its neighbours at the moment?It certainly isn’t about the Yugovision in 92 or the Sarajevo Winter Games in the 80s.The distrust/antagonism in the Balkans today is because of the crimes that Serbia committed in Kosova, etc.Whatever ‘positive’ steps that Serbia takes it only does so because it needs access to the West’s coffers, not because it believes in good neighbourly relations!Fundamentally, most Serbian people believe that the current status quo in the Balkans i.e.Kosova’s independence are only temporary conditions which will be ‘resolved’ typically with Russian help in a very short period of time.Hence the distrust.
“Is it that serbs were gulty of all the evils and that albanians, croats and muslims were freedomfighters?”Am I the only sane person here who remembers that Serbian thugs in Croatia etc enjoyed the tacit backing of the Yugoslav army?The 3rd most powerful army in Europe at that time!The ethnic cleansing that was carried out by Serbian thugs in Croatia etc was made possible because of the Yugoslav army’s backing of the local Serbian militias.Of course the Albanians etc were freedom-fighters! What would you call someone who is fighting against a tyrannical army for its sheer existence?They were fighting even though they had weapons embargo imposed against them by the world.
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 17:57)
Let me get this straight guys, Kovac just got his public ass slapping from Merkel a couple weeks ago and their miserable response is declaring war on Serbia? Hilarious, unbelievable Croatians who seized our beautiful Dalmatian coast, unbelievable!
(Giuseppe, 29 July 2016 17:53)
And by that same token, Milosevic, Seselj, Karadzic, Mladic, Arkan and many many other criminal thugs, who brought the worst systematic killings in mainland Europe since WW2, continue to be praised and honoured by the Serbian state and the Serbian society in general as heroes!!
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 10:23)
Yeah, all seven of them in some dive expat bar in Sydney. Time must be slow and news must come occasionally wherever you live. This wasn't even the case in the mid-1990s, so what gives you reason to think it's the case in 2016? If you're going to troll, at least try not to sound like an idiot.
(the actual truth, 29 July 2016 16:41)
I gotta hand it to Serb diplomacy and politics, you guys rock. You are free to say and do what you want, without letting the truth get in your way. You can insult and agitate freely. But when someone pushes back you get all indignant and fiercely cry foul and victim-hood and that you won't allow anyone to tread on Serbia. Simply brilliant. Certainly something that Croatian diplomacy could learn from.
(POV, 29 July 2016 16:25)
MikeC,
"Finish the job" that says it all. So you agree that serbia's goal was to commit genocide against all Croats not just in the 90's but during WW2, actually throughout history.
(King Tomislav, 29 July 2016 16:10)
Why do you always go back to the '90 as a reference to the history of the balkans? Is it because there is a general idea that serbs were gulty of all the evils and that albanians, croats and muslims were freedomfighters? Going back to WW2 would dissrupt this general idea that only serbs are the evil ones. You need to keep this idea alive to keep serbs and Serbia pinned to the wall. It doesn't fit your agenda if there were shades of grey to Balkan history. Whatever everyone else does can and should be excused and everything, good or bad, that the serbs do should be condemned. The problem today is not if Serbia will take responsibility for its actions in the '90 or not. It already did by sending many of its citizens to the Hague. Who did you send? The problem is that neither croats, albanians nor muslims want true peace because it doesn't go well with their future plans. Croats don't want serbs to return to Croatia and have in their DNA a hatered for serbs. Muslims don't want Republika Srpska to be a permanent solution and albanians want more Serbian land to satisfy their landgrabbing objectives. The balkans and the rest of the world need to know that serbs are still warcriminals and that the '90 policy towards Serbia should be maintained. However, the world is walking up. Serbs are only considered to be evil in the balkans by our foes. EU integration is proof to whom the world consideres to be for peace and democracy.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 15:04)
Stepinac saved many Serbian and Jewish lives. Serbia's government continues to lie and interfere in Croatia's affairs. Remember how that went last time Serbia tried to meddle in Croatian affairs? A total defeat for Serbia. You can try it again but you will continue to lose. Please fix your economy instead of attacking others!
(Derek, 29 July 2016 13:59)
@Aura,
can you please read your comment and tell me which part of that BS makes any sense to you? Thanks. As such I have no idea what it is that you're blabbering about but I'm assuming your just another destructive apologists trying to veil what happened in the Balkans in the 90s. You were probably born in the 90s so really have no point of reference here whatsoever. You're just another little Milosevic or Seselj a bit like what Dacic was in the 90s.
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 13:31)
Adrian, you either don't know the facts or are a poor propagandist.
All the objective statistics confirm casualties were essentially along ethnic proportions at the time.
First it was 300000 dead in Bosnia, then 200000, and now 100000. Almost a third of the victims were Serbs.
in Kosovo, 25% of civilian casualties were Serbian with only 10% of the population.
In Croatia. Well, even you must know the score there.
Your attempts to equate a vicious civil war with ww2 is puerile and transparent.
The real criminals are still running free, but not forever. Believe me.
(Aura, 29 July 2016 12:33)
For goodness sake I read this story and couldn't stop laughing. You both sound like little children in a playground. The sooner you accept each other and look to the future. The past is important but it shouldn't control the future. Europe has moved on from these silly little squabbles. Grow up!
(twindales, 29 July 2016 10:42)
"For the Germans, Hitler is a symbol of evil, and only in Croatia, the fascist NDH creation and her priest Stepinac are proclaimed heroes, martyrs and saints,"
And by that same token, Milosevic, Seselj, Karadzic, Mladic, Arkan and many many other criminal thugs, who brought the worst systematic killings in mainland Europe since WW2, continue to be praised and honoured by the Serbian state and the Serbian society in general as heroes!! Serbia never went through a de-Nazification process in the 00s like Germany did in the 50s and 60s.
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 10:23)
I guess the nazies were not compleatly destroyed in '45 after all. Its time Serbia prepares its military and heads west. Time to finish the job.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 09:58)
"For the Germans, Hitler is a symbol of evil, and only in Croatia, the fascist NDH creation and her priest Stepinac are proclaimed heroes, martyrs and saints,"
And by that same token, Milosevic, Seselj, Karadzic, Mladic, Arkan and many many other criminal thugs, who brought the worst systematic killings in mainland Europe since WW2, continue to be praised and honoured by the Serbian state and the Serbian society in general as heroes!! Serbia never went through a de-Nazification process in the 00s like Germany did in the 50s and 60s.
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 10:23)
MikeC,
"Finish the job" that says it all. So you agree that serbia's goal was to commit genocide against all Croats not just in the 90's but during WW2, actually throughout history.
(King Tomislav, 29 July 2016 16:10)
For goodness sake I read this story and couldn't stop laughing. You both sound like little children in a playground. The sooner you accept each other and look to the future. The past is important but it shouldn't control the future. Europe has moved on from these silly little squabbles. Grow up!
(twindales, 29 July 2016 10:42)
I guess the nazies were not compleatly destroyed in '45 after all. Its time Serbia prepares its military and heads west. Time to finish the job.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 09:58)
“Why do you always go back to the '90 as a reference to the history of the balkans?“
What do you think the underlying reason is behind all this bickering between Serbia and its neighbours at the moment?It certainly isn’t about the Yugovision in 92 or the Sarajevo Winter Games in the 80s.The distrust/antagonism in the Balkans today is because of the crimes that Serbia committed in Kosova, etc.Whatever ‘positive’ steps that Serbia takes it only does so because it needs access to the West’s coffers, not because it believes in good neighbourly relations!Fundamentally, most Serbian people believe that the current status quo in the Balkans i.e.Kosova’s independence are only temporary conditions which will be ‘resolved’ typically with Russian help in a very short period of time.Hence the distrust.
“Is it that serbs were gulty of all the evils and that albanians, croats and muslims were freedomfighters?”Am I the only sane person here who remembers that Serbian thugs in Croatia etc enjoyed the tacit backing of the Yugoslav army?The 3rd most powerful army in Europe at that time!The ethnic cleansing that was carried out by Serbian thugs in Croatia etc was made possible because of the Yugoslav army’s backing of the local Serbian militias.Of course the Albanians etc were freedom-fighters! What would you call someone who is fighting against a tyrannical army for its sheer existence?They were fighting even though they had weapons embargo imposed against them by the world.
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 17:57)
Stepinac saved many Serbian and Jewish lives. Serbia's government continues to lie and interfere in Croatia's affairs. Remember how that went last time Serbia tried to meddle in Croatian affairs? A total defeat for Serbia. You can try it again but you will continue to lose. Please fix your economy instead of attacking others!
(Derek, 29 July 2016 13:59)
@Aura,
can you please read your comment and tell me which part of that BS makes any sense to you? Thanks. As such I have no idea what it is that you're blabbering about but I'm assuming your just another destructive apologists trying to veil what happened in the Balkans in the 90s. You were probably born in the 90s so really have no point of reference here whatsoever. You're just another little Milosevic or Seselj a bit like what Dacic was in the 90s.
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 13:31)
Why do you always go back to the '90 as a reference to the history of the balkans? Is it because there is a general idea that serbs were gulty of all the evils and that albanians, croats and muslims were freedomfighters? Going back to WW2 would dissrupt this general idea that only serbs are the evil ones. You need to keep this idea alive to keep serbs and Serbia pinned to the wall. It doesn't fit your agenda if there were shades of grey to Balkan history. Whatever everyone else does can and should be excused and everything, good or bad, that the serbs do should be condemned. The problem today is not if Serbia will take responsibility for its actions in the '90 or not. It already did by sending many of its citizens to the Hague. Who did you send? The problem is that neither croats, albanians nor muslims want true peace because it doesn't go well with their future plans. Croats don't want serbs to return to Croatia and have in their DNA a hatered for serbs. Muslims don't want Republika Srpska to be a permanent solution and albanians want more Serbian land to satisfy their landgrabbing objectives. The balkans and the rest of the world need to know that serbs are still warcriminals and that the '90 policy towards Serbia should be maintained. However, the world is walking up. Serbs are only considered to be evil in the balkans by our foes. EU integration is proof to whom the world consideres to be for peace and democracy.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 15:04)
You Chetniks are the ones that insult everyone in Southern Europe, you are the ones that adopted policies of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Kosovares, the Croatians, Bosnians, Slovenes, and even penetrated into Albania itself!!! Our day of reckoning will soon arrive & then you radicals in Serbia will feel the pain that we felt in the 1990s & finally taste its bitterness, soon!!! God bless Croatia, Kosova, Slovenia, and Albania! P.S. Enjoy!
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(Peter the Rocky, 30 July 2016 22:56)
guess the nazies were not compleatly destroyed in '45 after all. Its time Serbia prepares its military and heads west. Time to finish the job.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 09:58)
MikeC,
It seems you've forgotten that Serbia lost all four wars she was a party to during the 1990's. If Serbia heads West she will encounter the very military that vanquished her. Not a very bright move! Of course, if you would like to see Serbia humiliated once again, be my guest.
(The Count of Kosova, 30 July 2016 02:25)
I gotta hand it to Serb diplomacy and politics, you guys rock. You are free to say and do what you want, without letting the truth get in your way. You can insult and agitate freely. But when someone pushes back you get all indignant and fiercely cry foul and victim-hood and that you won't allow anyone to tread on Serbia. Simply brilliant. Certainly something that Croatian diplomacy could learn from.
(POV, 29 July 2016 16:25)
Dacic Logic:
1) I say you are fascist, Hitler, Mussolini, bla bla bla. This is not an insult.
2) You say I sound like during Milosevic times. This is an insult.
Go figure.
Why is he still Foreign Minister? When were the elections in Serbia? Where is the new government that Serbs voted for, LOL.
(Reader, 29 July 2016 18:12)
Adrian, you either don't know the facts or are a poor propagandist.
All the objective statistics confirm casualties were essentially along ethnic proportions at the time.
First it was 300000 dead in Bosnia, then 200000, and now 100000. Almost a third of the victims were Serbs.
in Kosovo, 25% of civilian casualties were Serbian with only 10% of the population.
In Croatia. Well, even you must know the score there.
Your attempts to equate a vicious civil war with ww2 is puerile and transparent.
The real criminals are still running free, but not forever. Believe me.
(Aura, 29 July 2016 12:33)
And by that same token, Milosevic, Seselj, Karadzic, Mladic, Arkan and many many other criminal thugs, who brought the worst systematic killings in mainland Europe since WW2, continue to be praised and honoured by the Serbian state and the Serbian society in general as heroes!!
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 10:23)
Yeah, all seven of them in some dive expat bar in Sydney. Time must be slow and news must come occasionally wherever you live. This wasn't even the case in the mid-1990s, so what gives you reason to think it's the case in 2016? If you're going to troll, at least try not to sound like an idiot.
(the actual truth, 29 July 2016 16:41)
What would you call someone who is fighting against a tyrannical army for its sheer existence?
Adrian kola
Oh please! Before the conflict escelayed in Kosovo serbs and albanians loyal to Serbia were kidnapped and tortured to death by albanian criminal terrorists. Serb churches were desecrated long before the war began. And Serbia should never recognize the theft of its territory. With you there can and should not be peace. Even though I don't always agree with what the serbs in Croatia did in the '90 they probably had in mind WW2 and Jasenovac. Serbs were afraid that an ustashe run Croatia would meen the end of their existence there. Serbs had every right to act to protect their interests and lives. We have all seen what Croatia finaly did to the serb minority there. In Bosnia Izetbegovic wanted an islamic state. He got a tiny territory who's only acheivement is sending his countrymen to terrorize the world. Don't even know why Belgrade is even trying to reason with nazies, islamists landgrabbing terrorists. I'd ask you all to go to hell.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 22:40)
Let me get this straight guys, Kovac just got his public ass slapping from Merkel a couple weeks ago and their miserable response is declaring war on Serbia? Hilarious, unbelievable Croatians who seized our beautiful Dalmatian coast, unbelievable!
(Giuseppe, 29 July 2016 17:53)
You Chetniks are the ones that insult everyone in Southern Europe, you are the ones that adopted policies of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Kosovares, the Croatians, Bosnians, Slovenes, and even penetrated into Albania itself!!!
(Peter the Rocky, 30 July 2016 22:56)
Waaa waaa waaa. You constantly poop your pants on this site Rocky. You don't even know what a Chetnik is, but considering your limited knowledge of history and your propensity to bitch and moan like a drama queen looking for attention, I'm pretty sure any help learning history would be lost on you. So once again, someone please change Rocky's diaper.
(Bullwinkle, 31 July 2016 00:20)
The post down below is so dumb! Yes milosevic was so honored he was sent to The Hague. Mladic so honored he was sent to The Hague. Karadzic so honored he was sent to The Hague. Seselj didn't get any help from Serbia! I believe his lawyer was American? Seselj party has 10 seats out of 250
(Brian, 30 July 2016 17:23)
To icj: Please don't respond to, or address any comments to me until you go back and answer the several questions I posed to you before you ran off like the coward that you are.
P.S. Are you still cutting and pasting other people's comments to change the meaning of their posts when you can't adequately defend your position honestly? You're a clown who has been completely discredited on this forum, yet you still come back. Even I feel embarrassed for you!!
(njegos, 1 August 2016 20:56)
From Adrian Kola: "Serbia never went through a de-Nazification process in the 00s like Germany did in the 50s and 60s."
Hey genius, when did Romania go through their de-Nazification process?
(njegos, 1 August 2016 18:01)
Just a small clarification since you appear not to be aware...
Germany is not the same country as Romania!
(icj1, 1 August 2016 20:10)
Please don't respond to, or address any comments to me until you go back and answer the several questions I posed to you before you ran off like the coward that you are.
(njegos, 1 August 2016 20:56)
I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to...
As a proof that I'm serious about helping other forum contributors, you included, I just helped you learn that Romania is not the same country as Germany!
(icj1, 2 August 2016 01:55)
From icj: "I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to..."
HAHAHA! I've posted and re-posted the same questions to you several times and now you are asking me to do it again? Is there something you didn't understand the last three times? You are a charlatan of the highest order! A fraudster who avoids, deflects and obfuscates.
I repeat, go back and answer the questions that I've REPEATEDLY asked of you or you will have been exposed as a fraud once again. My bet is that you will avoid the questions yet again and come back with some lame meaningless post of no value as per usual. Start typing, I know you won't disappoint me. LOL!!
(njegos, 3 August 2016 13:06)
HAHAHA! As predicted, when asked to answer the several questions that I posted and reposted several time to icj, here's what his/her response was:
From icj: "The answer to your question "Is there something you didn't understand the last three times?" is no."
Just like clockwork, icj retorts with another of his/her meaningless statements and ducks the real questions. Suffice it to say that it is clearly obvious that you are incapable of defending your statements in our earlier debate. Not sure if that means your position was so weak you couldn't defend it, or that you're just dumb. Probably both!! LOL!!!!
(njegos, 3 August 2016 19:39)
From Adrian Kola: "Serbia never went through a de-Nazification process in the 00s like Germany did in the 50s and 60s."
Hey genius, when did Romania go through their de-Nazification process? Romania tried to play both sides during WWII and adopted a policy of nuetrality, then quickly caved in to Germany and allowed their oli fields to be used to fuel Hitler's war machine. As Germany gained momentum, Romania fully sided with the Nazis and gleefully participated in the slaughter and deportation of Jews. Toward the end of the war, your courageous countrymen then switched to the Allies. No backbone, no guts and no pride. That sums up Romanian military history. Hit the road Kola, you're a joke!
(njegos, 1 August 2016 18:01)
From icj: "I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to..."
Great! Now answer the question in my last post to you. And when you're done with that, answer the several others in previous posts that you've conveniently sidestepped and ran away from. Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath. Cowards like you have a tendency to disappear when unable to substantiate your weak position only to reappear again spewing your anti-Serb rhetoric on another thread. You're a gem.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
There might be a couple of Ustasha still alive in Croatia but I doubt it. Reference to Ustasha is just Serb BS. The Serbs shelled Dubrovnik - which even the Turks and Monguls never did. They tried to destroy Vukovar. Serbs shelled the non-military target of the 13th century cathedral in Sibenik. They dug out the eyeballs of a Croatian soldier while they were torturing him.
(knin, 7 August 2016 22:54)
From icj: "I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to..."
HAHAHA! I've posted and re-posted the same questions to you several times and now you are asking me to do it again? Is there something you didn't understand the last three times? You are a charlatan of the highest order! A fraudster who avoids, deflects and obfuscates.
(njegos, 3 August 2016 13:06)
Thank you for finally clarifying your question. I'm now in a position to help you again.
The answer to your question "Is there something you didn't understand the last three times?" is no.
So, now I've helped you twice, first in making you knowledgeable of the fact that Romania and Germany are different countries, and, second, in reassuring you that you were understandable the last three times. You should be thanking me for that, btw... no other forum members are taking the time help you improve your contributions :)
Any other questions you need help with?
(icj1, 3 August 2016 18:48)
I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to...
As a proof that I'm serious about helping other forum contributors, you included, I just helped you learn that Romania is not the same country as Germany!
(icj1, 2 August 2016 01:55)
Great! Now answer the question in my last post to you. And when you're done with that, answer the several others in previous posts that you've conveniently sidestepped and ran away from.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
I already helped you with your question and made you knowledgeable about the fact that Romania is not the same country as Germany.
If you have any other questions you so eagerly want an answer for, list them and I, for one, will do everything possible to help with an answer.
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Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
Yes, I agree that you should not hold your breath for an answer to a question, until you clarify what the question is :)
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Cowards like you have a tendency to disappear when unable to substantiate your weak position only to reappear again spewing your anti-Serb rhetoric on another thread. You're a gem.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
That's laughable coming from a Serb-hater like you! And, I have no idea what "weak position" or "anti-Serb" stuff you are referring to. You are more than welcome to point to one example!
(icj1, 2 August 2016 20:50)
"For the Germans, Hitler is a symbol of evil, and only in Croatia, the fascist NDH creation and her priest Stepinac are proclaimed heroes, martyrs and saints,"
And by that same token, Milosevic, Seselj, Karadzic, Mladic, Arkan and many many other criminal thugs, who brought the worst systematic killings in mainland Europe since WW2, continue to be praised and honoured by the Serbian state and the Serbian society in general as heroes!! Serbia never went through a de-Nazification process in the 00s like Germany did in the 50s and 60s.
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 10:23)
What would you call someone who is fighting against a tyrannical army for its sheer existence?
Adrian kola
Oh please! Before the conflict escelayed in Kosovo serbs and albanians loyal to Serbia were kidnapped and tortured to death by albanian criminal terrorists. Serb churches were desecrated long before the war began. And Serbia should never recognize the theft of its territory. With you there can and should not be peace. Even though I don't always agree with what the serbs in Croatia did in the '90 they probably had in mind WW2 and Jasenovac. Serbs were afraid that an ustashe run Croatia would meen the end of their existence there. Serbs had every right to act to protect their interests and lives. We have all seen what Croatia finaly did to the serb minority there. In Bosnia Izetbegovic wanted an islamic state. He got a tiny territory who's only acheivement is sending his countrymen to terrorize the world. Don't even know why Belgrade is even trying to reason with nazies, islamists landgrabbing terrorists. I'd ask you all to go to hell.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 22:40)
Why do you always go back to the '90 as a reference to the history of the balkans? Is it because there is a general idea that serbs were gulty of all the evils and that albanians, croats and muslims were freedomfighters? Going back to WW2 would dissrupt this general idea that only serbs are the evil ones. You need to keep this idea alive to keep serbs and Serbia pinned to the wall. It doesn't fit your agenda if there were shades of grey to Balkan history. Whatever everyone else does can and should be excused and everything, good or bad, that the serbs do should be condemned. The problem today is not if Serbia will take responsibility for its actions in the '90 or not. It already did by sending many of its citizens to the Hague. Who did you send? The problem is that neither croats, albanians nor muslims want true peace because it doesn't go well with their future plans. Croats don't want serbs to return to Croatia and have in their DNA a hatered for serbs. Muslims don't want Republika Srpska to be a permanent solution and albanians want more Serbian land to satisfy their landgrabbing objectives. The balkans and the rest of the world need to know that serbs are still warcriminals and that the '90 policy towards Serbia should be maintained. However, the world is walking up. Serbs are only considered to be evil in the balkans by our foes. EU integration is proof to whom the world consideres to be for peace and democracy.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 15:04)
Adrian, you either don't know the facts or are a poor propagandist.
All the objective statistics confirm casualties were essentially along ethnic proportions at the time.
First it was 300000 dead in Bosnia, then 200000, and now 100000. Almost a third of the victims were Serbs.
in Kosovo, 25% of civilian casualties were Serbian with only 10% of the population.
In Croatia. Well, even you must know the score there.
Your attempts to equate a vicious civil war with ww2 is puerile and transparent.
The real criminals are still running free, but not forever. Believe me.
(Aura, 29 July 2016 12:33)
Stepinac saved many Serbian and Jewish lives. Serbia's government continues to lie and interfere in Croatia's affairs. Remember how that went last time Serbia tried to meddle in Croatian affairs? A total defeat for Serbia. You can try it again but you will continue to lose. Please fix your economy instead of attacking others!
(Derek, 29 July 2016 13:59)
You Chetniks are the ones that insult everyone in Southern Europe, you are the ones that adopted policies of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Kosovares, the Croatians, Bosnians, Slovenes, and even penetrated into Albania itself!!!
(Peter the Rocky, 30 July 2016 22:56)
Waaa waaa waaa. You constantly poop your pants on this site Rocky. You don't even know what a Chetnik is, but considering your limited knowledge of history and your propensity to bitch and moan like a drama queen looking for attention, I'm pretty sure any help learning history would be lost on you. So once again, someone please change Rocky's diaper.
(Bullwinkle, 31 July 2016 00:20)
@Aura,
can you please read your comment and tell me which part of that BS makes any sense to you? Thanks. As such I have no idea what it is that you're blabbering about but I'm assuming your just another destructive apologists trying to veil what happened in the Balkans in the 90s. You were probably born in the 90s so really have no point of reference here whatsoever. You're just another little Milosevic or Seselj a bit like what Dacic was in the 90s.
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 13:31)
Let me get this straight guys, Kovac just got his public ass slapping from Merkel a couple weeks ago and their miserable response is declaring war on Serbia? Hilarious, unbelievable Croatians who seized our beautiful Dalmatian coast, unbelievable!
(Giuseppe, 29 July 2016 17:53)
I guess the nazies were not compleatly destroyed in '45 after all. Its time Serbia prepares its military and heads west. Time to finish the job.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 09:58)
MikeC,
"Finish the job" that says it all. So you agree that serbia's goal was to commit genocide against all Croats not just in the 90's but during WW2, actually throughout history.
(King Tomislav, 29 July 2016 16:10)
“Why do you always go back to the '90 as a reference to the history of the balkans?“
What do you think the underlying reason is behind all this bickering between Serbia and its neighbours at the moment?It certainly isn’t about the Yugovision in 92 or the Sarajevo Winter Games in the 80s.The distrust/antagonism in the Balkans today is because of the crimes that Serbia committed in Kosova, etc.Whatever ‘positive’ steps that Serbia takes it only does so because it needs access to the West’s coffers, not because it believes in good neighbourly relations!Fundamentally, most Serbian people believe that the current status quo in the Balkans i.e.Kosova’s independence are only temporary conditions which will be ‘resolved’ typically with Russian help in a very short period of time.Hence the distrust.
“Is it that serbs were gulty of all the evils and that albanians, croats and muslims were freedomfighters?”Am I the only sane person here who remembers that Serbian thugs in Croatia etc enjoyed the tacit backing of the Yugoslav army?The 3rd most powerful army in Europe at that time!The ethnic cleansing that was carried out by Serbian thugs in Croatia etc was made possible because of the Yugoslav army’s backing of the local Serbian militias.Of course the Albanians etc were freedom-fighters! What would you call someone who is fighting against a tyrannical army for its sheer existence?They were fighting even though they had weapons embargo imposed against them by the world.
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 17:57)
And by that same token, Milosevic, Seselj, Karadzic, Mladic, Arkan and many many other criminal thugs, who brought the worst systematic killings in mainland Europe since WW2, continue to be praised and honoured by the Serbian state and the Serbian society in general as heroes!!
(adrian kola, 29 July 2016 10:23)
Yeah, all seven of them in some dive expat bar in Sydney. Time must be slow and news must come occasionally wherever you live. This wasn't even the case in the mid-1990s, so what gives you reason to think it's the case in 2016? If you're going to troll, at least try not to sound like an idiot.
(the actual truth, 29 July 2016 16:41)
For goodness sake I read this story and couldn't stop laughing. You both sound like little children in a playground. The sooner you accept each other and look to the future. The past is important but it shouldn't control the future. Europe has moved on from these silly little squabbles. Grow up!
(twindales, 29 July 2016 10:42)
guess the nazies were not compleatly destroyed in '45 after all. Its time Serbia prepares its military and heads west. Time to finish the job.
(MikeC, 29 July 2016 09:58)
MikeC,
It seems you've forgotten that Serbia lost all four wars she was a party to during the 1990's. If Serbia heads West she will encounter the very military that vanquished her. Not a very bright move! Of course, if you would like to see Serbia humiliated once again, be my guest.
(The Count of Kosova, 30 July 2016 02:25)
I gotta hand it to Serb diplomacy and politics, you guys rock. You are free to say and do what you want, without letting the truth get in your way. You can insult and agitate freely. But when someone pushes back you get all indignant and fiercely cry foul and victim-hood and that you won't allow anyone to tread on Serbia. Simply brilliant. Certainly something that Croatian diplomacy could learn from.
(POV, 29 July 2016 16:25)
You Chetniks are the ones that insult everyone in Southern Europe, you are the ones that adopted policies of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Kosovares, the Croatians, Bosnians, Slovenes, and even penetrated into Albania itself!!! Our day of reckoning will soon arrive & then you radicals in Serbia will feel the pain that we felt in the 1990s & finally taste its bitterness, soon!!! God bless Croatia, Kosova, Slovenia, and Albania! P.S. Enjoy!
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(Peter the Rocky, 30 July 2016 22:56)
Dacic Logic:
1) I say you are fascist, Hitler, Mussolini, bla bla bla. This is not an insult.
2) You say I sound like during Milosevic times. This is an insult.
Go figure.
Why is he still Foreign Minister? When were the elections in Serbia? Where is the new government that Serbs voted for, LOL.
(Reader, 29 July 2016 18:12)
There might be a couple of Ustasha still alive in Croatia but I doubt it. Reference to Ustasha is just Serb BS. The Serbs shelled Dubrovnik - which even the Turks and Monguls never did. They tried to destroy Vukovar. Serbs shelled the non-military target of the 13th century cathedral in Sibenik. They dug out the eyeballs of a Croatian soldier while they were torturing him.
(knin, 7 August 2016 22:54)
From Adrian Kola: "Serbia never went through a de-Nazification process in the 00s like Germany did in the 50s and 60s."
Hey genius, when did Romania go through their de-Nazification process? Romania tried to play both sides during WWII and adopted a policy of nuetrality, then quickly caved in to Germany and allowed their oli fields to be used to fuel Hitler's war machine. As Germany gained momentum, Romania fully sided with the Nazis and gleefully participated in the slaughter and deportation of Jews. Toward the end of the war, your courageous countrymen then switched to the Allies. No backbone, no guts and no pride. That sums up Romanian military history. Hit the road Kola, you're a joke!
(njegos, 1 August 2016 18:01)
I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to...
As a proof that I'm serious about helping other forum contributors, you included, I just helped you learn that Romania is not the same country as Germany!
(icj1, 2 August 2016 01:55)
Great! Now answer the question in my last post to you. And when you're done with that, answer the several others in previous posts that you've conveniently sidestepped and ran away from.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
I already helped you with your question and made you knowledgeable about the fact that Romania is not the same country as Germany.
If you have any other questions you so eagerly want an answer for, list them and I, for one, will do everything possible to help with an answer.
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Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
Yes, I agree that you should not hold your breath for an answer to a question, until you clarify what the question is :)
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Cowards like you have a tendency to disappear when unable to substantiate your weak position only to reappear again spewing your anti-Serb rhetoric on another thread. You're a gem.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
That's laughable coming from a Serb-hater like you! And, I have no idea what "weak position" or "anti-Serb" stuff you are referring to. You are more than welcome to point to one example!
(icj1, 2 August 2016 20:50)
From Adrian Kola: "Serbia never went through a de-Nazification process in the 00s like Germany did in the 50s and 60s."
Hey genius, when did Romania go through their de-Nazification process?
(njegos, 1 August 2016 18:01)
Just a small clarification since you appear not to be aware...
Germany is not the same country as Romania!
(icj1, 1 August 2016 20:10)
Please don't respond to, or address any comments to me until you go back and answer the several questions I posed to you before you ran off like the coward that you are.
(njegos, 1 August 2016 20:56)
I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to...
As a proof that I'm serious about helping other forum contributors, you included, I just helped you learn that Romania is not the same country as Germany!
(icj1, 2 August 2016 01:55)
The post down below is so dumb! Yes milosevic was so honored he was sent to The Hague. Mladic so honored he was sent to The Hague. Karadzic so honored he was sent to The Hague. Seselj didn't get any help from Serbia! I believe his lawyer was American? Seselj party has 10 seats out of 250
(Brian, 30 July 2016 17:23)
To icj: Please don't respond to, or address any comments to me until you go back and answer the several questions I posed to you before you ran off like the coward that you are.
P.S. Are you still cutting and pasting other people's comments to change the meaning of their posts when you can't adequately defend your position honestly? You're a clown who has been completely discredited on this forum, yet you still come back. Even I feel embarrassed for you!!
(njegos, 1 August 2016 20:56)
From icj: "I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to..."
Great! Now answer the question in my last post to you. And when you're done with that, answer the several others in previous posts that you've conveniently sidestepped and ran away from. Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath. Cowards like you have a tendency to disappear when unable to substantiate your weak position only to reappear again spewing your anti-Serb rhetoric on another thread. You're a gem.
(njegos, 2 August 2016 19:37)
From icj: "I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to..."
HAHAHA! I've posted and re-posted the same questions to you several times and now you are asking me to do it again? Is there something you didn't understand the last three times? You are a charlatan of the highest order! A fraudster who avoids, deflects and obfuscates.
(njegos, 3 August 2016 13:06)
Thank you for finally clarifying your question. I'm now in a position to help you again.
The answer to your question "Is there something you didn't understand the last three times?" is no.
So, now I've helped you twice, first in making you knowledgeable of the fact that Romania and Germany are different countries, and, second, in reassuring you that you were understandable the last three times. You should be thanking me for that, btw... no other forum members are taking the time help you improve your contributions :)
Any other questions you need help with?
(icj1, 3 August 2016 18:48)
HAHAHA! As predicted, when asked to answer the several questions that I posted and reposted several time to icj, here's what his/her response was:
From icj: "The answer to your question "Is there something you didn't understand the last three times?" is no."
Just like clockwork, icj retorts with another of his/her meaningless statements and ducks the real questions. Suffice it to say that it is clearly obvious that you are incapable of defending your statements in our earlier debate. Not sure if that means your position was so weak you couldn't defend it, or that you're just dumb. Probably both!! LOL!!!!
(njegos, 3 August 2016 19:39)
From icj: "I'm always happy to assist other forum contributors, you included, with any doubts or questions, if I can. So, feel free to ask any questions that you don't know the answer to..."
HAHAHA! I've posted and re-posted the same questions to you several times and now you are asking me to do it again? Is there something you didn't understand the last three times? You are a charlatan of the highest order! A fraudster who avoids, deflects and obfuscates.
I repeat, go back and answer the questions that I've REPEATEDLY asked of you or you will have been exposed as a fraud once again. My bet is that you will avoid the questions yet again and come back with some lame meaningless post of no value as per usual. Start typing, I know you won't disappoint me. LOL!!
(njegos, 3 August 2016 13:06)