The Croatian Ministry of Foreign and European Affairs has sent a protest note to Serbia over "unacceptable statements" made by the country's top officials.
Croatia protests: Serbia treats us in revisionist manner
The Croatian Ministry of Foreign and European Affairs has sent a protest note to Serbia over "unacceptable statements" made by the country's top officials.
Source: Beta, Tanjug
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The Croatian minister said the statements by Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic and PM-designate Aleksandar Vucic "in an inappropriate and revisionist manner assess Croatia and actions of its institutions, which represents direct interference into internal affairs of a neighboring country," Beta agency has reported, quoting Croatia's Hina agency.
"Such rhetoric is encouraging the incitement of intolerance between the two peoples and was distancing Serbia from endorsing European value and its accession to the European family," the Croatian ministry said, according to Hina, at the same time "inviting Serbian officials to direct their discourse to strengthening good neighborly ties and to, instead of tendentious verbal conflicts embroidered with untruthfulness and historic revisions, focus on a rational dialogue on all issues that were important for bilateral relations."
In that context, Nikolic's statement about ""Croatia covering up the pits where Ustasha's buried Serbs - but if it continues like this it will dig up an abyss into which it will fall and remain alone, without the support of the civilized, anti-fascist, and anti-Nazi part of humanity."
Hina also quoted Vucic's statement that Serbia wished good ties with Croatia and that it would always be on the side of anti-fascism, but that the annulment of the verdict to Stepinac spoke more about Croatia, than Serbia.
On Friday, the Zagreb District Court annulled the 1946 verdict against Stepinac that found him guilty and sentenced him to 16 years in prison for collaboration with Italian and German occupiers and the Nazi-allied Ustasha regime of the Independent State of Croatia (NDH).
Stepinac was also found guilty of forced conversions of Orthodox Christian Serbs to Catholicism, and for spreading enemy propaganda after the war, whose aim was to endanger the state system of the Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia (FNRJ).
"Padre of the Ustasha"
Reacting to the protest note, Serbian Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic said it was "shameful that Croatia is protesting because Serbia criticizes the rehabilitation of war criminal Stepinac, the padre of the Ustasha Independent State of Croatia (NDH)."
"Stepinac gave his blessing to the genocide against the Serbs, Jews and Roma, and even set up a commission for converting Serbs into Catholicism. No one will ever stop Serbia to raise its voice against the rehabilitation of war criminals from the time of fascism and the Ustasha NDH. Serbia sure is for good neighborly ties and reconciliation, but no one will humiliate Serbia and the victims of the Ustasha terror," Dacic said, according to a statement from the ministry carried by Beta.
By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)
Ari,
One need only go back and read your other ridiculous posts to discover you are a pathological liar. Nice try though.
(EU Citizen, 2 August 2016 19:09)
I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 28 July 2016 15:23)
High as a kite, talk BS while babbling. LOL
(sj, 28 July 2016 16:01)
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.
Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)
Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)
Psst you need to make you communications clear not babbling on to your self LOL.
(sj, 28 July 2016 14:05)
I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 28 July 2016 15:23)
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.
Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)
Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)
Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.
(Sieg Fail, 26 July 2016 14:32)
===…==
What have the fish done to deserve that? That evil thing would have them vomiting till they die.
(Peggy, 27 July 2016 13:47)
Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.
(Vojvodina, 27 July 2016 09:31)
===…==
Maybe because the records were destroyed?
Where is the transcript from his trial?
(Peggy, 27 July 2016 13:43)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
Psst that was what you Albos bros were not happy with LOL.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)
By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)
Well documented? Please show me any proof that he blessed concentration camps, because so far I've only seen statements by other people and the proof of our own savagery.
Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.
(Vojvodina, 27 July 2016 09:31)
Serbia has itself to blame. Letting Croatia build shoppingmalls in Serbia and flooding Serbia with low quality product made in Croatia. Croat singers can come to Serbia while Serbian ones are not allowed in Ustashia. These neo nazies need us more than we need them. Why are we being such suckers? Not to mention the Kosovo albanians who for example come to Serbia to give birth but at the same time consider Kosovo to be independent. Wake up Serbia! Stop being a sucker! Tell the filth to shove it where the sun don't shine.
(MikeC, 27 July 2016 08:53)
Correct. One group collaborated with the Nazis. The other resisted them. Thanks for being honest.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 18:47)
Correct. One group has acknowledge its involvement with the Nazis. The other is refusing to deal with its past. Thanks for being honest.
(no navi, 26 July 2016 19:56)
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.
Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
Stop Comparing us (croats) with serbs.. we are not the same.. u have to pay for all the crimes u have done to us and bosnia.. we are Eu
(real, 26 July 2016 17:26)
Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.
(twindales, 26 July 2016 15:54)
Good luck telling the HDZ that
(aaa, 26 July 2016 16:06)
Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.
(twindales, 26 July 2016 15:54)
Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)
Funny how this "pro Nazi collaborator" had a price on his head by the Germans equal to the same amount they put for Tito. Meanwhile, there's photos of Stepinac shaking hands with Pavelic, who might I add is still commemorated in Croatian Catholic churches every year while brainwashed Croat youths give the Nazi salute and chant NDH slogans at football matches without thinking anything is wrong as they listen to fascist lyrics sung by Thompson.
Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.
(Sieg Fail, 26 July 2016 14:32)
The Catholic Church had a policy of the spreading Catholicism and their shock troops were Croats and Ukrainian ultra nationalists (those in black shirts that shot a few people during the first days the coup). The Vatican called the Orthodox Schismatics and to “save” them from hell they had to turn them towards the Papacy – yes this is true.
He and his Bishops turned a blind eye towards 1/3 to be converted to Catholicism (note Stepinac never objected to the conversions) 1/3 killed and 1/3 driven out. There is not one shred of evidence to show Stepinac objected to any of these NDH actions; not one. In fact Stepinac’s correspondence was the opposite.
During the war years the Catholic Church in NDH had hundreds of its priests and monks (notably Franciscans) in the Ustasha movement and over 600 were in war crimes lists.
There have been instances throughout Europe where Catholic Bishops had openly written to authorities condemning Nazi crimes but not one letter was found with the signature of Stepinac.
(sj, 26 July 2016 14:25)
Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since 1991 and just rehabilitated the patron saint of the NDH.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 13:37)
Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since the 1980s and previously rehabilitated their own chetnik collaborator
(no navi, 26 July 2016 14:24)
Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)
Yes Stepinac saved them right into Jasenovac concentration camp. Unlike Ante Pavelic, Draza Mihajlovic was decorated by Truman. Next you Croats are going to peddle how Ante Pavelic also saved Serbs.
As for your Kovac bleating about Serbia interfering in Croat affairs, the answer is VETO Serbia’s entry into the EU, please, if you can LOL.
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
Ari Gold, your comments are full of incorrect rhetoric. Stepinac condemned Jasenovac. Stepinac condemned the murder of minorities right from the pulpit of the Cathedral in Zagreb. When he was arrested, the entire world protested. Stepinac's trial was nothing more than a communist snow job.
Any serious historian who has studied Stepinac agrees that he was not a war criminal.
(Ian, 26 July 2016 12:41)
Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)
Serbs and Croats are the same thing even in sport games both are good at same things for example water polo , basketball
Serbs Croats is the same thing only hate each other but they are as people from different regions from Romania = > same thing
(adrian_bucharest, 26 July 2016 11:50)
By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)
By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)
Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)
Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)
Yes Stepinac saved them right into Jasenovac concentration camp. Unlike Ante Pavelic, Draza Mihajlovic was decorated by Truman. Next you Croats are going to peddle how Ante Pavelic also saved Serbs.
As for your Kovac bleating about Serbia interfering in Croat affairs, the answer is VETO Serbia’s entry into the EU, please, if you can LOL.
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since 1991 and just rehabilitated the patron saint of the NDH.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 13:37)
Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since the 1980s and previously rehabilitated their own chetnik collaborator
(no navi, 26 July 2016 14:24)
Ari Gold, your comments are full of incorrect rhetoric. Stepinac condemned Jasenovac. Stepinac condemned the murder of minorities right from the pulpit of the Cathedral in Zagreb. When he was arrested, the entire world protested. Stepinac's trial was nothing more than a communist snow job.
Any serious historian who has studied Stepinac agrees that he was not a war criminal.
(Ian, 26 July 2016 12:41)
Correct. One group collaborated with the Nazis. The other resisted them. Thanks for being honest.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 18:47)
Correct. One group has acknowledge its involvement with the Nazis. The other is refusing to deal with its past. Thanks for being honest.
(no navi, 26 July 2016 19:56)
Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)
Funny how this "pro Nazi collaborator" had a price on his head by the Germans equal to the same amount they put for Tito. Meanwhile, there's photos of Stepinac shaking hands with Pavelic, who might I add is still commemorated in Croatian Catholic churches every year while brainwashed Croat youths give the Nazi salute and chant NDH slogans at football matches without thinking anything is wrong as they listen to fascist lyrics sung by Thompson.
Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.
(Sieg Fail, 26 July 2016 14:32)
Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.
(twindales, 26 July 2016 15:54)
Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.
(twindales, 26 July 2016 15:54)
Good luck telling the HDZ that
(aaa, 26 July 2016 16:06)
The Catholic Church had a policy of the spreading Catholicism and their shock troops were Croats and Ukrainian ultra nationalists (those in black shirts that shot a few people during the first days the coup). The Vatican called the Orthodox Schismatics and to “save” them from hell they had to turn them towards the Papacy – yes this is true.
He and his Bishops turned a blind eye towards 1/3 to be converted to Catholicism (note Stepinac never objected to the conversions) 1/3 killed and 1/3 driven out. There is not one shred of evidence to show Stepinac objected to any of these NDH actions; not one. In fact Stepinac’s correspondence was the opposite.
During the war years the Catholic Church in NDH had hundreds of its priests and monks (notably Franciscans) in the Ustasha movement and over 600 were in war crimes lists.
There have been instances throughout Europe where Catholic Bishops had openly written to authorities condemning Nazi crimes but not one letter was found with the signature of Stepinac.
(sj, 26 July 2016 14:25)
Stop Comparing us (croats) with serbs.. we are not the same.. u have to pay for all the crimes u have done to us and bosnia.. we are Eu
(real, 26 July 2016 17:26)
Serbia has itself to blame. Letting Croatia build shoppingmalls in Serbia and flooding Serbia with low quality product made in Croatia. Croat singers can come to Serbia while Serbian ones are not allowed in Ustashia. These neo nazies need us more than we need them. Why are we being such suckers? Not to mention the Kosovo albanians who for example come to Serbia to give birth but at the same time consider Kosovo to be independent. Wake up Serbia! Stop being a sucker! Tell the filth to shove it where the sun don't shine.
(MikeC, 27 July 2016 08:53)
Serbs and Croats are the same thing even in sport games both are good at same things for example water polo , basketball
Serbs Croats is the same thing only hate each other but they are as people from different regions from Romania = > same thing
(adrian_bucharest, 26 July 2016 11:50)
By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)
Ari,
One need only go back and read your other ridiculous posts to discover you are a pathological liar. Nice try though.
(EU Citizen, 2 August 2016 19:09)
Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.
(Sieg Fail, 26 July 2016 14:32)
===…==
What have the fish done to deserve that? That evil thing would have them vomiting till they die.
(Peggy, 27 July 2016 13:47)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
Psst that was what you Albos bros were not happy with LOL.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.
Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.
Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)
Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)
Psst you need to make you communications clear not babbling on to your self LOL.
(sj, 28 July 2016 14:05)
I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 28 July 2016 15:23)
Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.
(Vojvodina, 27 July 2016 09:31)
===…==
Maybe because the records were destroyed?
Where is the transcript from his trial?
(Peggy, 27 July 2016 13:43)
I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 28 July 2016 15:23)
High as a kite, talk BS while babbling. LOL
(sj, 28 July 2016 16:01)
By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)
Well documented? Please show me any proof that he blessed concentration camps, because so far I've only seen statements by other people and the proof of our own savagery.
Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.
(Vojvodina, 27 July 2016 09:31)
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.
Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)
Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)
Serbs and Croats are the same thing even in sport games both are good at same things for example water polo , basketball
Serbs Croats is the same thing only hate each other but they are as people from different regions from Romania = > same thing
(adrian_bucharest, 26 July 2016 11:50)
Stop Comparing us (croats) with serbs.. we are not the same.. u have to pay for all the crimes u have done to us and bosnia.. we are Eu
(real, 26 July 2016 17:26)
By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)
Ari Gold, your comments are full of incorrect rhetoric. Stepinac condemned Jasenovac. Stepinac condemned the murder of minorities right from the pulpit of the Cathedral in Zagreb. When he was arrested, the entire world protested. Stepinac's trial was nothing more than a communist snow job.
Any serious historian who has studied Stepinac agrees that he was not a war criminal.
(Ian, 26 July 2016 12:41)
Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since 1991 and just rehabilitated the patron saint of the NDH.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 13:37)
Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since the 1980s and previously rehabilitated their own chetnik collaborator
(no navi, 26 July 2016 14:24)
Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)
Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)
Yes Stepinac saved them right into Jasenovac concentration camp. Unlike Ante Pavelic, Draza Mihajlovic was decorated by Truman. Next you Croats are going to peddle how Ante Pavelic also saved Serbs.
As for your Kovac bleating about Serbia interfering in Croat affairs, the answer is VETO Serbia’s entry into the EU, please, if you can LOL.
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)
Funny how this "pro Nazi collaborator" had a price on his head by the Germans equal to the same amount they put for Tito. Meanwhile, there's photos of Stepinac shaking hands with Pavelic, who might I add is still commemorated in Croatian Catholic churches every year while brainwashed Croat youths give the Nazi salute and chant NDH slogans at football matches without thinking anything is wrong as they listen to fascist lyrics sung by Thompson.
Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.
(Sieg Fail, 26 July 2016 14:32)
The Catholic Church had a policy of the spreading Catholicism and their shock troops were Croats and Ukrainian ultra nationalists (those in black shirts that shot a few people during the first days the coup). The Vatican called the Orthodox Schismatics and to “save” them from hell they had to turn them towards the Papacy – yes this is true.
He and his Bishops turned a blind eye towards 1/3 to be converted to Catholicism (note Stepinac never objected to the conversions) 1/3 killed and 1/3 driven out. There is not one shred of evidence to show Stepinac objected to any of these NDH actions; not one. In fact Stepinac’s correspondence was the opposite.
During the war years the Catholic Church in NDH had hundreds of its priests and monks (notably Franciscans) in the Ustasha movement and over 600 were in war crimes lists.
There have been instances throughout Europe where Catholic Bishops had openly written to authorities condemning Nazi crimes but not one letter was found with the signature of Stepinac.
(sj, 26 July 2016 14:25)
Correct. One group collaborated with the Nazis. The other resisted them. Thanks for being honest.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 18:47)
Correct. One group has acknowledge its involvement with the Nazis. The other is refusing to deal with its past. Thanks for being honest.
(no navi, 26 July 2016 19:56)
Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.
(twindales, 26 July 2016 15:54)
Good luck telling the HDZ that
(aaa, 26 July 2016 16:06)
By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)
Well documented? Please show me any proof that he blessed concentration camps, because so far I've only seen statements by other people and the proof of our own savagery.
Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.
(Vojvodina, 27 July 2016 09:31)
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.
Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.
(twindales, 26 July 2016 15:54)
Serbia has itself to blame. Letting Croatia build shoppingmalls in Serbia and flooding Serbia with low quality product made in Croatia. Croat singers can come to Serbia while Serbian ones are not allowed in Ustashia. These neo nazies need us more than we need them. Why are we being such suckers? Not to mention the Kosovo albanians who for example come to Serbia to give birth but at the same time consider Kosovo to be independent. Wake up Serbia! Stop being a sucker! Tell the filth to shove it where the sun don't shine.
(MikeC, 27 July 2016 08:53)
I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 28 July 2016 15:23)
High as a kite, talk BS while babbling. LOL
(sj, 28 July 2016 16:01)
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.
Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)
Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)
Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.
(Vojvodina, 27 July 2016 09:31)
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Maybe because the records were destroyed?
Where is the transcript from his trial?
(Peggy, 27 July 2016 13:43)
Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.
(Sieg Fail, 26 July 2016 14:32)
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What have the fish done to deserve that? That evil thing would have them vomiting till they die.
(Peggy, 27 July 2016 13:47)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
Psst that was what you Albos bros were not happy with LOL.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)
They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.
Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)
And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)
Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)
Psst you need to make you communications clear not babbling on to your self LOL.
(sj, 28 July 2016 14:05)
I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 28 July 2016 15:23)
By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)
Ari,
One need only go back and read your other ridiculous posts to discover you are a pathological liar. Nice try though.
(EU Citizen, 2 August 2016 19:09)