1. Firstly I never mentioned war crimes in my statement
    (Peggy, 4 January 2016 01:32)

    Ah, OK cool... If no war crimes were committed, not sure what you were whining about then!
    (icj1, 5 January 2016 04:02)
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    You are a real piece of work. If you are going to quote me then take the whole quote and not just the bit that you think you can distort.
    Just because I didn't mention war crimes doesn't mean that I won't respond to YOU mentioning it.
    You are the only one who takes you seriously.
    (Peggy, 5 January 2016 13:14)

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  2. It's a well known fact that NATO targeted civilian places. John Pilger has put this in his book and plenty of evidence of that in Belgrade.
    (Peggy, 1 January 2016 04:14)

    According to the UN there is no sufficient evidence that NATO officials committed war crimes in Belgrade (the destruction of a "civilian" building is not necessarily a war crime - more is needed to make it a war crime).

    So what you or a certain "John Pilger" believe can safely be ignored!
    (icj1, 3 January 2016 03:25)
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    Firstly I never mentioned war crimes in my statement
    (Peggy, 4 January 2016 01:32)

    Ah, OK cool... If no war crimes were committed, not sure what you were whining about then!
    (icj1, 5 January 2016 04:02)

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  3. Peggy: Apology accepted, mistakes happen.
    (ned taylor, 4 January 2016 12:58)

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  4. Peggy: I have now read back through the comments on this page and see that you have mistaken me for 'NATO gal' with whom you had a previous exchange (I have made no references to NATO bombing with regard to this article neither am I a 'gal'). I await your apology for the accusation of lying and for not knowing my job. In the same spirit I apologise for not having read through all the previous comments before writing my own comment two minutes ago.
    (ned taylor, 2 January 2016 20:47)
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    You're right. I did mistake you for 'NATO gal' and made an accusation falsly. I do apologise for that.
    (Peggy, 4 January 2016 01:35)

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  5. According to the UN there is no sufficient evidence that NATO officials committed war crimes in Belgrade (the destruction of a "civilian" building is not necessarily a war crime - more is needed to make it a war crime).

    So what you or a certain "John Pilger" believe can safely be ignored!
    (icj1, 3 January 2016 03:25)
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    Firstly I never mentioned war crimes in my statement but since you did, targeting civilians is a war crime. Targeting civilian buildings like a school or a bridge with a train carrying civilians is a war crime.
    There is plenty of evidence of what happened just because NATO won't make any accusations against themselves doesn't make what they say true.
    (Peggy, 4 January 2016 01:32)

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  6. @Peggy.
    Nikolic is trying to link the RS government stability to Dodik , in effect saying any attack on Dodik is an attack on the government when this is not the case. Even if there was a plot to topple Dodik or he were legitimately jailed for corruption, this may or may not topple the government.
    If the Bosnian authorities attempt to jail Dodik, this can safely be dismissed as an invented plot to destroy the government. Dodik can then keep the 750,000 Euro of tax payer money that he allegedly used for his villa
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  7. It's a well known fact that NATO targeted civilian places. John Pilger has put this in his book and plenty of evidence of that in Belgrade.
    (Peggy, 1 January 2016 04:14)

    According to the UN there is no sufficient evidence that NATO officials committed war crimes in Belgrade (the destruction of a "civilian" building is not necessarily a war crime - more is needed to make it a war crime).

    So what you or a certain "John Pilger" believe can safely be ignored!
    (icj1, 3 January 2016 03:25)

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  8. Peggy: I have now read back through the comments on this page and see that you have mistaken me for 'NATO gal' with whom you had a previous exchange (I have made no references to NATO bombing with regard to this article neither am I a 'gal'). I await your apology for the accusation of lying and for not knowing my job. In the same spirit I apologise for not having read through all the previous comments before writing my own comment two minutes ago.
    (ned taylor, 2 January 2016 20:47)

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  9. Peggy: This story does not relate to NATO bombing; why have you changed the subject? SJ: You are supporting my assertion that there are no plans to remove Dodik and that his back is covered by the Russians, are you not, but yet you phrase your comment as if we disagree, which we clearly don't. Whether the West "would like nothing better than to remove Dodik" is not at issue here. What Nikolic has claimed is that he has been told that plans are afoot to "topple" MD and there are no such officially sanctioned plans, not least for the reason that you gave and that I mentioned in an earlier comment.
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  10. @SJ, Ned clearly either doesn't know what he is talking about or he is lying.
    It's a well known fact that NATO targeted civilian places. John Pilger has put this in his book and plenty of evidence of that in Belgrade. There are pictures of destroyed civilian targets and yet Ned is telling us how he and they took care not to target civilians.
    Ned, whatever you are doing in Bosnia can't be that important or you would know this.
    (Peggy, 1 January 2016 04:14)

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  11. ned taylor, 31 December 2015 14:40)
    Milorad Dodik did not decide one morning to have this referendum because there was nothing to do that day. He would have been given the green light from Putin himself. Dodik ignores the OHR. I recall on an occasion earlier this year he walked past Inzok like he did not exist.
    The west would love nothing more than to remove Dodik, but they can’t and a referendum will be held and a no confidence vote in the BiH judicial process will emerge and not a thing will happen except a weaker BiH. But if they want to avoid this I suggest that they reorganise the judicial process where people other than just Serbs are locked up for war crimes. I have not seen Muslims or Croats charged or if they are they walk in the front door and walk out the back.
    The US is preoccupied with NATO expansion because that is its last foothold in Europe and keeping ISIS going so they can do their dirty work for them.
    There is too much policy work and not enough living in reality and that is why the west is dying.
    (sj, 31 December 2015 23:41)

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  12. SJ: I do not work for OHR and will not defend their decisions, I simply pointed out that I know what their thinking is. Yes, I work in the IC in Bosnia and am party to various policy positions but that doesn't mean I agree with them all. What you ought to know is that the main difficulty in BiH is not between Russia and others but between the EU and the US. The EU policy is almost solely designed to lead to accession to that organisation and they see Dodik as a major stumbling block because he doesn't want to do anything that strengthens the state, which joining the EU would do. The US however doesn't give a damn about whether or not BiH joins the EU or NATO and has only one foreign policy interest; counter terrorism. To this end Dodik, however contrary he may seem, is an ally and therefore OHR (who frankly are more pro US than the US Embassy) will not move against him unless he does something so outrageous that they are left with no choice. Bearing in mind how he has behaved on occasions, threatening physical violence against female journalists on live TV for example, without any consequence, he has a lot of leeway. Peggy asked me to substantiate my previous comments but proving a negative is almost impossible. There are certainly no official plans to do anything concrete about MD. The person who needs to provide more information is Nikolic but he is probably no more free to give public details than am I.
    (ned taylor, 31 December 2015 14:40)

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  13. (ned taylor, 31 December 2015 10:51)
    Lad, Milorad Dodik will be there today, tomorrow and this time next year simply because someone in Moscow says NYET.
    What the west wants is to knobble RS so that it only remains on paper and then the forces of freedom and democracy prevail where Sarajevo rules while recognising Kosovo and joining NATO. The west wants to water down Dayton – it’s been in the media many times because BiH is not working according to them – Dayton was supposed an interim plan. Its costing too much but that’s what happens when you have western fools invovled.
    If you are in the administration of the OHR then you guys are not playing with a full deck of cards. You should have taken over RS in the early days when you had the power right after the war not now. Then Russia was weak. It’s all too late mate just have a look what Moscow is doing in Syria and the west can lift a finger. OHR is playing with chess pieces lost a long time ago.
    Look at Montenegro, Milo opened his mouth to join NATO and it’s going to be bye, bye Milo.
    (sj, 31 December 2015 12:39)

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  14. Peggy: There are a number of plans within the IC based on different scenarios for Mr Dodik and there have been for many years. None of these involve 'toppling him'. If you haven't yet worked out what my role in BiH is then you are not as bright as I thought you were. I have first hand knowledge of the current thinking within OHR/EUSR but they wouldn't thank me for sharing it with you. You can choose what and whom to believe but the proof of the pudding is in the eating so come back to me when he has been 'toppled' (as opposed to removed for anti Dayton behaviour) and we can discuss this again.
    (ned taylor, 31 December 2015 10:51)

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  15. (NATO gal, 30 December 2015 23:39)

    And what did you do in the Air Force to obtain such an insight? It is a fact that NATO bombed and bombed in Kosovo with very little success – they targeted everything that moved, entire families running away from the war were obliterated on the roads and then NATO BS machine told everyone how much they loved them and it was Slobo’s fault for their deaths. NATO threw even the “kitchen sink” in Kosovo with very little to show for.
    When they realised that nothing was working they then targeted infrastructure to “bomb Serbia into the stone age”. Newspapers around the world reported on this many times. You should read up on a subject before posting.
    When it was over the US Defence Secretary William Cohen was shocked to see the numbers of Serbian troops leaving Kosovo with enormous quantities of equipment that were not even scratched. He was so angry that he refused Colonel Klink’s aka Wesley Clarke, request for a victory parade in New York and removed him 3 months earlier from his post as head of NATO. You see Colonel Klink was telling little porkies to big Bill about the success rate.
    Journos embedded with NATO troops were so surprised that very little military equipment was hit. One said he saw a truck and a tank in all of Kosovo and he suspected the tank broke down rather than being hit.
    (sj, 31 December 2015 10:37)

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  16. It's pretty clear that certain governments want RS sovereignty taken down a notch or two from what Dayton guarantees.

    This is for two reasons:

    1. To ensure that Bosnia does not unravel

    2. To take away Belgrade's Kosovo insurance card

    Serbs don't need to do anything in Bosnia except stick by the Dayton agreement which was signed by all 3 parties.

    The greater the efforts to curtail RS sovereignty the greater the voices for BBB (Bye-Bye-Bosnia)
    (factman, 31 December 2015 05:19)

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  17. Now then, before you go off halfcocked, let me say NATO deliberately tried to avoid bombing civilians, contrary to what Serbs may think.

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    That is a lie or very ill-informed.

    NATO deliberately targeted economic infrastructure and civilians because it could not fly lower without loss of planes/ pilots.

    In order to avert a humanitarian catastrophe in the making, NATO bombed civilians (in order to terrorize them into getting the Serb government to relent) and economic infrastructure (in order to make the cost of continued obstinance very great.

    Both of these actions are war crimes according to the Geneva Convention.

    Tell that story to some newspaper because that dog don't hunt.
    (factman, 31 December 2015 05:05)

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  18. Peggy: Yes, I do have information that you don't, and it's staying that way.
    (ned taylor, 30 December 2015 23:19
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    Ha ha ha ha, that's priceless.
    Either share or keep quiet because nobody is going to take your word for it. I can say that I have secret CIA documents too and won't disclose.
    (Peggy, 31 December 2015 03:34)

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  19. They took Kosovo away by force so why not RS now?
    (Peggy, 30 December 2015 21:09)

    Peg,
    Aren't you exaggerating a bit. What "force" are you talking about. It was like taking candy away from a baby. You are correct though, the RS is ripe for the picking if Dodik continues to be unruly.
    btw, I'm ex-Air Force and flew many missions to Serbia in 1999. Now then, before you go off halfcocked, let me say NATO deliberately tried to avoid bombing civilians, contrary to what Serbs may think.
    (NATO gal, 30 December 2015 23:39)
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    So the schools and hospitals, the bridge which had a train on it were all mistakes. Either you are so incompetent or you are lying. You have the audacity to show up on a Serbian site after killing our people.
    Dodik is not being unruly. He is trying to protect Serbian interests. Go take yuour crap somewher else like a nice friendly Albanian site. You will meet many likeminded people there.
    (Peggy, 31 December 2015 03:31)

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  20. They took Kosovo away by force so why not RS now?
    (Peggy, 30 December 2015 21:09)

    Peg,
    Aren't you exaggerating a bit. What "force" are you talking about. It was like taking candy away from a baby. You are correct though, the RS is ripe for the picking if Dodik continues to be unruly.
    btw, I'm ex-Air Force and flew many missions to Serbia in 1999. Now then, before you go off halfcocked, let me say NATO deliberately tried to avoid bombing civilians, contrary to what Serbs may think.
    (NATO gal, 30 December 2015 23:39)

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  21. Peggy: Yes, I do have information that you don't, and it's staying that way.
    (ned taylor, 30 December 2015 23:19)

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  22. So Nikolic is saying that Dodik and the RS is too important, and that those in the government there should be immune from prosecution for war crimes and corruption?
    (Dwight, 30 December 2015 14:41)
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    Where did you get that from? I see nothing in the article that even mentions any crimes being ignored.
    Please read again very slowly if you have trouble understanding. He said that RS is too important to lose not Dodik or anyone else at the top.
    An agreement was reached and only another agreement can change that so yes RS is important because it represents this agreement. Only the people of RS can make this decision.
    They took Kosovo away by force so why not RS now?
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  23. It's interesting that the foreign diplomats don't seem to have passed the same message that Nikolic claims to have received to Mr Vucic who made no mention at all of any of this after a recent meeting with Dodik.
    (ned taylor, 30 December 2015 15:32)
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    How do you know any of this? Do you honestly believe that all that was discussed will be published?
    How do you know that there are no plans to destroy RS? Please do explain how you know all this. You don't say I think, you say there are no plans so you must have information the rest of us don't.
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  24. Oj Bosna Nasa! The cradle of peace for all the Balkans lies within the heart of Bosna i Herzegovina! The Balkans a melting pot of three major religions, why can we not find peace and profound respect for one another! Has any one ever measured the weight of a tear drop? Would it be correct to believe the same weight wheter it be from a Roman Catholic, Muslum or Serbian Mother? Who will benifit from all the blood and tears that were spilled upon the Balkan earth? There is really no need for the humanity of the Balkans to walk in the tunnel of darkness! The " Children of Sorrow ", how many of us unfortunates born of the Balkans? Our lives just a blink of an eye in the history of the ages, how will the world remember us all from the Balkans tomarrow when we are all gone? Tebi Majko Misli Lete, listen to it, no matter who sings wheter it be a Croat, Muslum or Serb the same sorrow! Oh just a wishfull dreamer, how beautiful the world really is!!!
    (Dragoljub Djurkovic, 30 December 2015 15:58)

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  25. There are no plans to destroy the RS from the IC and there are certainly no plans to reduce the powers that it was given under the Dayton Agreement unless the RS consents to this, which isn't going to happen. There will, however, be strong resistance from the EU and the US if Dodik attempts to undermine Dayton Bosnia by continuing to insist that judgements of state bodies don't apply to the RS or if state level law enforcement bodies are obstructed from carrying out their functions. Let's not forget that the Director of SIPA (who carried out recent arrests) and the Minister of Security who would have been forewarned of these actions are both Serbs. Dodik is looking for an excuse to hold a referendum and Nikolic seems determined to give him one. It's interesting that the foreign diplomats don't seem to have passed the same message that Nikolic claims to have received to Mr Vucic who made no mention at all of any of this after a recent meeting with Dodik.
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  26. The threats come from the 'international community' or the three usual countries who started all of the problems in the Balkans the last time? We really have to create a name for them. Perhaps Germbriterica?
    (MikeD, 30 December 2015 15:29)

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  27. Perhaps he could tell us why " the fate and the survival of the Serb Republic must be more important than anything else"?
    So Nikolic is saying that Dodik and the RS is too important, and that those in the government there should be immune from prosecution for war crimes and corruption?
    (Dwight, 30 December 2015 14:41)

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  28. I Quote -

    If I was Dodiks mentor or right hand man, I'd get out of Banja Luka faster than speedy gonzales. Remember what these people did to Ivan Stambolic.
    (chetnikfiles, 30 December 2015 12:09)

    Comment - it not is rather the assossiates(Communists) of this communist(Ivan Stamboloc) you should bevere of ?.

    Arn.Sweden.
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  29. Finally! I had to wait a while to hear the next episode in the never ending Serbian fairy tale book about great world conspiracies against Serbs.
    (Comm. Parrisson, 30 December 2015 12:18)

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  30. If I was Dodiks mentor or right hand man, I'd get out of Banja Luka faster than speedy gonzales. Remember what these people did to Ivan Stambolic.
    (chetnikfiles, 30 December 2015 12:09)

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  31. Bevere ! - Croatia will come for RS !.

    Spremte se Spremte !.

    Arn.Sweden.
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  32. Nikolic`s understanding of neutral and not intefering with domestic affairs of other countries. Another exempla of serbias new politic of stability and peace. Serbias foreign politic is a parody of foreign politcs.
    (Gjon Marku, 30 December 2015 11:18)

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