13 countries have reversed their decision to recognize unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo, so why wouldn't France the same, asks Alexis Troude.
"It's time for France, too, to withdraw Kosovo recognition"
13 countries have reversed their decision to recognize unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo, so why wouldn't France the same, asks Alexis Troude.
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"That would be very good in order to solve the overall situation in the Western Balkans region. It's clear that a solution can't be reached as thing are. Giving essential autonomy to Kosovo would make it possible to speed up negotiations and acceptance of the entire region into the EU," Troude has told the daily Vecernje Novosti.
Otherwise, the issues of Bosnia-Herzegivina and North Macedonia will be raised, which, he added, is not in anybody's interest.
The petition in question was signed by more than 1,500 people in only one day, and the goal of organizers from the Peace Collective for Kosovo, chaired by Troude, is to have 100,000 signatures by the beginning of July and the continuation of talks about the future of Kosovo in the Elysee Palace - and at the same time launch a big national debate, the Belgrade-based newspaper writes on Monday.
"We want to hold a debate on Kosovo in the National Assembly of France before July 1 and the arrival of President Aleksandar Vucic in Paris. We are already in contact with certain politicians to whom we will hand over the petition. They plan is for them to appear before the Foreign Affairs Committee of parliament," he said.
Troude believes that this could change the situation, as there had been no debate in France before that country recognized Kosovo.
"Nicolas Sarkozy himself decided to do that one Sunday evening, February 17, 2008, with the enthusiastic support of his Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. This is an opportunity to finally debate the matter. The team has recently filed alarming reports to several parliamentary missions about the state of human rights and the overall situation in Kosovo," Troude said.
The historian also announced that he would conduct a campaign in the French media next week, adding many MPs, regional councilors, and party officials promised to sign the petition after EU elections.
Ha ha ha ha, who is this trouducul? Even if future fashist France revoque recognition, who cares! We are independent with the will of our people, not with will of French, serb, Russian or another! We are in fact member of NATO with our mother Albania, and Serbs can only continue to dream and play their dirty game! Sanctions will stay as long as they play like this!
(Ha ha ha ha, 22 May 2019 16:00)
Ataman....... are you saying that Le Pen wants to stay in the EU??? Has she not said that if elected she will hold a referendum on leaving the EU?? She is the French Nigel Farage......
You may not like it but thats the deal. She has also said that if she is elected as president her government will revoke Kosovo recognition. You may not like that either but thats the way it is.
So, which parts of the above are not true...????
(VIEW FROM UK, 18 May 2019 12:27)
Pffff twisted logic Tom? Then why are you so worked up?
But goody it gives me a chance to play..
Let's flip the script shall we? You Albos take an event with zero likelyhood to occur (independance) and use it to justify other mutually exlusice events (recognition & taxes)
Gee man you Albos have it so easy! 123 ABC you're a country!? Nice try..lol
(Bre, 15 May 2019 08:00)
No one is worked up dude, you just don't know what to say hence you stick to delusions - your zone of comfortwith all your co-trolls there.
A little originality wouldn't harm you though.
(Tom L'Orizi, 16 May 2019 05:38)
according to the French law (I'm French myself) the petition can be signed by French of course but also by people living in France... so don't hesitate to share, sign the petition and spread it all over the people you know, we must get the biggest number of signatures.:) ho and btw, Italy is discussing revoking Kosovo independence, France is the next one ;)
(the french Lazar, 15 May 2019 10:16)
Tom.......I am not sure you know or follow what is happening in Europe and the world.
Marine Le Pen came second to Macron in the last elections. Thats second, not third or last. Macron is the most unpopular president in living memory (look at the ongoing protests in yellow vests).
All opinion polls in France say Le Pen will be next French president.
She has also said many times that she will revoke Kosovo recognition if and when she is president. By the way, she also wants to give the French people the chance to leave the EU..... Frexit.
Now then Tom....which of the above is false, fake news, etc..???
I suggest you read and research a bit and then you may not look such a fool posting hollow comments.
(VIEW FROM UK, 15 May 2019 09:19)
I'm not sure if you noticed but this petition is only for French people.
(Ataman's best friend, 14 May 2019 16:15)
It's for French residents and interestingly the petition gave my full name as it is known in France based (correctly) on HU passport data, not on US or RU info. The payment was with PayPal, not a printed money.
And sorry - you aren't even funny.
(Ataman, 14 May 2019 17:29)
You good scammed and taken for a ride - again.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 May 2019 09:04)
You take an event with zero likelihood to occur (Le Pen winning the presidential elections) and use it to explain another mutually exclusive event with zero likelihood to occur (France withdrawing Kosova's recognition).
Gee man, you the Serbs have it so easy!!?
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 May 2019 00:18)
Pffff twisted logic Tom? Then why are you so worked up?
But goody it gives me a chance to play..
Let's flip the script shall we? You Albos take an event with zero likelyhood to occur (independance) and use it to justify other mutually exlusice events (recognition & taxes)
Gee man you Albos have it so easy! 123 ABC you're a country!? Nice try..lol
(Bre, 15 May 2019 08:00)
... However, Le Pen has openly said in public that if she is elected as president she will revoke Kosovo recognition......!!! That also is a fact.
Can I suggest Fact Check that you go back and Check your Facts.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 14 May 2019 16:13)
If my dear aunt had hangies - she would have been called my dear uncle. That's fact too.
What a twisted logic you the Serbs use!?
You take an event with zero likelihood to occur (Le Pen winning the presidential elections) and use it to explain another mutually exclusive event with zero likelihood to occur (France withdrawing Kosova's recognition).
Gee man, you the Serbs have it so easy!!?
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 May 2019 00:18)
I'm not sure if you noticed but this petition is only for French people.
(Ataman's best friend, 14 May 2019 16:15)
It's for French residents and interestingly the petition gave my full name as it is known in France based (correctly) on HU passport data, not on US or RU info. The payment was with PayPal, not a printed money.
And sorry - you aren't even funny.
(Ataman, 14 May 2019 17:29)
Fact check.......your name contradicts you....!!!
Trump never ever said he would revoke Kosovo recognition. That is a fact. But he is not trying to bully one side or the other. Didnt his team say that whatever Belgrade and Pristina agree the US would support it???
However, Le Pen has openly said in public that if she is elected as president she will revoke Kosovo recognition......!!! That also is a fact.
Can I suggest Fact Check that you go back and Check your Facts.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 14 May 2019 16:13)
If the gentlemen from France thinks that rescinding recognition from Kosovo is a good idea, then USA, UK, should revoke the recognition of France and Serbia altogether, simple physics Action=Reaction.
(Hakaj, 14 May 2019 15:27)
... as I started to fill out my data, the PayPal of course appeared.
But that is not enough: my address, appeared, too.
So I guess based on my name my address is in the data base.
Fine, I just gave 20 Euro via PayPal, that's the maximum from the list.
But since the data seem to be quite public... my humble guess is that I won't be a personal friend of Ramush-hush-hush or the Snake Pigeon Gods (Quetzalcoatl).
Unless of course if I dare to miss a kidney or two.
(Honcho Atamanovic Honchev, 14 May 2019 15:08)
Sorry to burst your bubble but the winds only have changed inside the round thing you carry around aka your HEAD. France is one of Kosova's biggest supporters!
Time
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Hahaha, not if Le Penn gets in.
(Peggy, 14 May 2019 04:26)
THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
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You can only threaten war when you are capable of fighting it yourself, otherwise you really need to pull your head in.
If enough the US sees there is no support from Kosovo from Europe do you think they will go to war for you?
(Peggy, 14 May 2019 04:25)
Hot off the press... study in Kosovo finds taxes have NOT DONE A THING except raise prices higher overall due to less competition and more logistics lololol
Internal production has not risen what so ever. No new products no new jobs.
Study done by Kosovo Albanians...
Surprise surprise..
(Bre, 13 May 2019 22:20) # Comment link
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Kosova has successfully replaced most of serb product with other regional mrighbours with macedonia benefiting the most.
Where is the link or sources of this Albanian study?
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 14 May 2019 01:25)
Hot off the press... study in Kosovo finds taxes have NOT DONE A THING except raise prices higher overall due to less competition and more logistics lololol
Internal production has not risen what so ever. No new products no new jobs.
After reading your comment I just thought I'd be honest by informing you that I'm not interested and therefore don't want to sign the petition.
(N.A.A., 13 May 2019 21:07)
THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
Don't worry, Vulin is itching to clear out all the KLA rats in Kosovo. If Albania is stupid enough to interfere, than the Serbian Army will march straight to Durres.
(Jugolsavija, 13 May 2019 19:54)
Serbia doesn’t have a chance in hell of keeping Kosovo. Forget about getting more revocations, it’s a fool’s errand. Serbia should concentrate of repairing its good name, then improve its economy. Wake up, Russia cannot and will not help Serbia. Where was Russia when we were getting bombed for 78 horrific days and nights.
(Modern Serb, 13 May 2019 14:49)
@ modernserbaj- you albos will try anything, 🤣
Even pretending to be a Srb, LOL
(Watcher, 13 May 2019 18:33)
Sorry to burst your bubble but the winds only have changed inside the round thing you carry around aka your HEAD. France is one of Kosova's biggest supporters!
Time
Yes, everybody that matters are your biggest supporters. Ask yourself why they support you? Are you offering them anything of value? The main reason they "support" you and want an independent Kosovo is so they can send all criminal albanians spread all over europe back to prisoncamp kosova. Look at the facts. Criminal albanians being sent back in droves and Kosovo doesn't have free travel. Could it be that they want you contained? While at the same time Serbia is flurishing.
(Hank the Tank, 13 May 2019 18:24)
Time.....you said absolutely nothing apart from general sweeping statement.... Do you agree that Le Pen is hot favourite to be next president? Does she not openly say she will revoke Kosovo recognition? Is this fake news???
You say France supports Kosovo....no, only Macron the maggot and his close circle do. Thats because they blindly support America. Macron is the most unpopular president in living memory, right? So, instead of general garbage from you, how about you debate the issues with facts and examples.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 17:39)
The sissy French have always been Serbia’s ally so who cares if they revoke nobody likes the sissy French no wonder they are friends with Serbia.
(Joe, 13 May 2019 17:27)
OPEN THE BORDER AND UNITE I SAY UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA. THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
LOL hey angry ALL CAPS, I'd actually welcome your attempt at doing this, only the war you'll start will be over before you realize it's begun. When in the history of anything have Albanians ever won a war on their own?
I mean you're welcome to try, but you won't get any help from Uncle Sam, France, or anyone else. Still, it would almost be worth it if it finally means Albanians throughout the region are expelled and sent back to Albania. Serbia, Macedonia, and Montenegro would be a lot better off :)
(LOL, 13 May 2019 17:20)
The winds of change.....
Justice is slow but does com.e about.
Marine Le Pen is favourite to be next president (she was 2nd last time). She will ask for Frexit and we will see the decline of the EU. She also openly states that France will revoke Kosovo recognition. And of course Italy may well follow suit as France over the next 2 or 3 years.
I know Albanians will say its all fake news......errr, no its not.
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 15:18
Sorry to burst your bubble but the winds only have changed inside the round thing you carry around aka your HEAD. France is one of Kosova's biggest supporters!
(Time, 13 May 2019 16:48)
Ministry of whatever......my oh my, thats a fake laugh if ever I seen one....
Its French politicians and influential people who are starting a campaign to revoke Kosovo recognition.....you just carry on with your fake laugh....
Shall I say the words.....Marine Le Pen...??? No, butter not, we dont want you to start crying...!!
By the way, Le Pen is hot favourite to be next French president.....now that is funny.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 16:41)
LOL Serbian style propaganda..
Alexis Troude is a nobody...
we all saw what France think's about radical-Serbia when they Made Vuqiqovic sit next to the toilets . And president Thaqi next to the democratic leaders
(Dardan, 13 May 2019 13:37
🤣🤣 I think Vucic was assigned to clean the toilets, he was on duty and that is why he had to sit next to the toilets.
(Just saying.., 13 May 2019 15:23)
The winds of change.....
Justice is slow but does com.e about.
Marine Le Pen is favourite to be next president (she was 2nd last time). She will ask for Frexit and we will see the decline of the EU. She also openly states that France will revoke Kosovo recognition. And of course Italy may well follow suit as France over the next 2 or 3 years.
I know Albanians will say its all fake news......errr, no its not.
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 15:18)
It isnt about revoking the recognition of the french. Nobody here is under the impression that a petition is going to make them do that...
This is about making them have to talk about it which will result in the political parties doing their own research about our little albo's in kosovo.
If enough facts about your little shananigans come up then it could get a lot harder for them to stay on your side instead of sitting silently and watching whas is going to happen.
That also has the posibility that that wont care if a couple of their former colonies revoke their recognition what they try to prevent. --> they will keep the recognition to save face.
etc, etc, etc... look at the long term my little albo's because it isnt all that simple.
(Nema, 13 May 2019 15:13)
Serbia doesn’t have a chance in hell of keeping Kosovo. Forget about getting more revocations, it’s a fool’s errand. Serbia should concentrate of repairing its good name, then improve its economy. Wake up, Russia cannot and will not help Serbia. Where was Russia when we were getting bombed for 78 horrific days and nights.
(Modern Serb, 13 May 2019 14:49)
Historian my A..! Here is one of many historical facts you May have just overlap!
[link]
Was it You that declared independence on behalf of The Republic Of Kosova? NO, it was the inhabitants of The Republic Of Kosova that declared its independence!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 13 May 2019 14:48)
You're probably right. But there's no doubt that there would be great interest by general population and academics/scholars for such a move in France, Italy, Hungary, Poland, Czechia and Bulgaria.
Whether the political establishment allows it is another thing. Still though, there has been more talk in the past year of withdrawing recognitions than of new recognitions.
(Ari Gold, 13 May 2019 14:47)
And which "significant" countries did that?
And even though Kosovo was never supposed to be an independent country according to international law there is (poetic) Justice in this world. Those poor bastards (and I don't like them very much) suffered more than enough.
(Nicholas, 13 May 2019 14:29)
Hahahaha I love it when kids get together and play . I tell you what you guys have a better chance of getting bumped by French before revoking the recognition Come on make me laugh some more please thank you
(Who, 13 May 2019 14:09)
LOL Serbian style propaganda..
Alexis Troude is a nobody...
we all saw what France think's about radical-Serbia when they Made Vuqiqovic sit next to the toilets . And president Thaqi next to the democratic leaders
(Dardan, 13 May 2019 13:37)
@Comment “we’re all for unification anyway” hmm let me think for a moment. Let’s pull things apart so that we can pull it altogether again, because we want to unified so that we can pull things apart and put them back together again. Bunch of hamsters.
(Pushka, 13 May 2019 11:46)
I HOPE FRANCE DOES THAT,THIS WAY KOSOVA WILL UNDERSTAND FASTER IT BELONGS WITH ALBANIA. KOSOVA IS NOT JOING ALBANIA BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THACI WANT TO STAY IN POWER LIKE EDORGAN. OPEN THE BORDER AND UNITE I SAY UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA. THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
Actually, France is one of those countries which recently has discussed this topic to withdraw the recognition of your province.
I met a diplomat in Skopje late last year. He was not in favor to withdraw but he told me many are. I asked him why he was not in favor and he frankly said that France have interests in the Balkans and they have a good view whats going on at their embassies at the top of Dragodan and above east of Skopje centar.
If I was a Serb and Serbia, I would absolutely lobby for withdrawal. It might pay off.
(Staff, 13 May 2019 11:32)
With the European elections just around the corner, looks like a shift to the right is inevitable and those people are a lot more favourable towards Serbia so it seems this is just the beginning of getting the Kosovo mess sorted out and further reversing recognitions. Italy is there also and soon it will being.
(Zoran, 13 May 2019 11:20)
Whether France revokes or not, is quite irrelevant actually.
France will either be on one side or the other, when the time has come.
If the the French are smart enough, they will know to adjust their foreign policy to changed circumstances.
If not, they will have no possibility to be part of a solution then.
Syria was just the beginning.
(Jovan, 13 May 2019 10:30)
Actually, France is one of those countries which recently has discussed this topic to withdraw the recognition of your province.
I met a diplomat in Skopje late last year. He was not in favor to withdraw but he told me many are. I asked him why he was not in favor and he frankly said that France have interests in the Balkans and they have a good view whats going on at their embassies at the top of Dragodan and above east of Skopje centar.
If I was a Serb and Serbia, I would absolutely lobby for withdrawal. It might pay off.
(Staff, 13 May 2019 11:32)
With the European elections just around the corner, looks like a shift to the right is inevitable and those people are a lot more favourable towards Serbia so it seems this is just the beginning of getting the Kosovo mess sorted out and further reversing recognitions. Italy is there also and soon it will being.
(Zoran, 13 May 2019 11:20)
Whether France revokes or not, is quite irrelevant actually.
France will either be on one side or the other, when the time has come.
If the the French are smart enough, they will know to adjust their foreign policy to changed circumstances.
If not, they will have no possibility to be part of a solution then.
Syria was just the beginning.
(Jovan, 13 May 2019 10:30)
Hot off the press... study in Kosovo finds taxes have NOT DONE A THING except raise prices higher overall due to less competition and more logistics lololol
Internal production has not risen what so ever. No new products no new jobs.
Serbia doesn’t have a chance in hell of keeping Kosovo. Forget about getting more revocations, it’s a fool’s errand. Serbia should concentrate of repairing its good name, then improve its economy. Wake up, Russia cannot and will not help Serbia. Where was Russia when we were getting bombed for 78 horrific days and nights.
(Modern Serb, 13 May 2019 14:49)
@ modernserbaj- you albos will try anything, 🤣
Even pretending to be a Srb, LOL
(Watcher, 13 May 2019 18:33)
@Comment “we’re all for unification anyway” hmm let me think for a moment. Let’s pull things apart so that we can pull it altogether again, because we want to unified so that we can pull things apart and put them back together again. Bunch of hamsters.
(Pushka, 13 May 2019 11:46)
Sorry to burst your bubble but the winds only have changed inside the round thing you carry around aka your HEAD. France is one of Kosova's biggest supporters!
Time
Yes, everybody that matters are your biggest supporters. Ask yourself why they support you? Are you offering them anything of value? The main reason they "support" you and want an independent Kosovo is so they can send all criminal albanians spread all over europe back to prisoncamp kosova. Look at the facts. Criminal albanians being sent back in droves and Kosovo doesn't have free travel. Could it be that they want you contained? While at the same time Serbia is flurishing.
(Hank the Tank, 13 May 2019 18:24)
The winds of change.....
Justice is slow but does com.e about.
Marine Le Pen is favourite to be next president (she was 2nd last time). She will ask for Frexit and we will see the decline of the EU. She also openly states that France will revoke Kosovo recognition. And of course Italy may well follow suit as France over the next 2 or 3 years.
I know Albanians will say its all fake news......errr, no its not.
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 15:18)
You're probably right. But there's no doubt that there would be great interest by general population and academics/scholars for such a move in France, Italy, Hungary, Poland, Czechia and Bulgaria.
Whether the political establishment allows it is another thing. Still though, there has been more talk in the past year of withdrawing recognitions than of new recognitions.
(Ari Gold, 13 May 2019 14:47)
THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
Don't worry, Vulin is itching to clear out all the KLA rats in Kosovo. If Albania is stupid enough to interfere, than the Serbian Army will march straight to Durres.
(Jugolsavija, 13 May 2019 19:54)
Time.....you said absolutely nothing apart from general sweeping statement.... Do you agree that Le Pen is hot favourite to be next president? Does she not openly say she will revoke Kosovo recognition? Is this fake news???
You say France supports Kosovo....no, only Macron the maggot and his close circle do. Thats because they blindly support America. Macron is the most unpopular president in living memory, right? So, instead of general garbage from you, how about you debate the issues with facts and examples.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 17:39)
It isnt about revoking the recognition of the french. Nobody here is under the impression that a petition is going to make them do that...
This is about making them have to talk about it which will result in the political parties doing their own research about our little albo's in kosovo.
If enough facts about your little shananigans come up then it could get a lot harder for them to stay on your side instead of sitting silently and watching whas is going to happen.
That also has the posibility that that wont care if a couple of their former colonies revoke their recognition what they try to prevent. --> they will keep the recognition to save face.
etc, etc, etc... look at the long term my little albo's because it isnt all that simple.
(Nema, 13 May 2019 15:13)
Ministry of whatever......my oh my, thats a fake laugh if ever I seen one....
Its French politicians and influential people who are starting a campaign to revoke Kosovo recognition.....you just carry on with your fake laugh....
Shall I say the words.....Marine Le Pen...??? No, butter not, we dont want you to start crying...!!
By the way, Le Pen is hot favourite to be next French president.....now that is funny.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 16:41)
OPEN THE BORDER AND UNITE I SAY UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA. THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
LOL hey angry ALL CAPS, I'd actually welcome your attempt at doing this, only the war you'll start will be over before you realize it's begun. When in the history of anything have Albanians ever won a war on their own?
I mean you're welcome to try, but you won't get any help from Uncle Sam, France, or anyone else. Still, it would almost be worth it if it finally means Albanians throughout the region are expelled and sent back to Albania. Serbia, Macedonia, and Montenegro would be a lot better off :)
(LOL, 13 May 2019 17:20)
LOL Serbian style propaganda..
Alexis Troude is a nobody...
we all saw what France think's about radical-Serbia when they Made Vuqiqovic sit next to the toilets . And president Thaqi next to the democratic leaders
(Dardan, 13 May 2019 13:37)
Sorry to burst your bubble but the winds only have changed inside the round thing you carry around aka your HEAD. France is one of Kosova's biggest supporters!
Time
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Hahaha, not if Le Penn gets in.
(Peggy, 14 May 2019 04:26)
THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
===…==
You can only threaten war when you are capable of fighting it yourself, otherwise you really need to pull your head in.
If enough the US sees there is no support from Kosovo from Europe do you think they will go to war for you?
(Peggy, 14 May 2019 04:25)
Tom.......I am not sure you know or follow what is happening in Europe and the world.
Marine Le Pen came second to Macron in the last elections. Thats second, not third or last. Macron is the most unpopular president in living memory (look at the ongoing protests in yellow vests).
All opinion polls in France say Le Pen will be next French president.
She has also said many times that she will revoke Kosovo recognition if and when she is president. By the way, she also wants to give the French people the chance to leave the EU..... Frexit.
Now then Tom....which of the above is false, fake news, etc..???
I suggest you read and research a bit and then you may not look such a fool posting hollow comments.
(VIEW FROM UK, 15 May 2019 09:19)
I HOPE FRANCE DOES THAT,THIS WAY KOSOVA WILL UNDERSTAND FASTER IT BELONGS WITH ALBANIA. KOSOVA IS NOT JOING ALBANIA BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THACI WANT TO STAY IN POWER LIKE EDORGAN. OPEN THE BORDER AND UNITE I SAY UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA. THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
... However, Le Pen has openly said in public that if she is elected as president she will revoke Kosovo recognition......!!! That also is a fact.
Can I suggest Fact Check that you go back and Check your Facts.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 14 May 2019 16:13)
If my dear aunt had hangies - she would have been called my dear uncle. That's fact too.
What a twisted logic you the Serbs use!?
You take an event with zero likelihood to occur (Le Pen winning the presidential elections) and use it to explain another mutually exclusive event with zero likelihood to occur (France withdrawing Kosova's recognition).
Gee man, you the Serbs have it so easy!!?
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 May 2019 00:18)
according to the French law (I'm French myself) the petition can be signed by French of course but also by people living in France... so don't hesitate to share, sign the petition and spread it all over the people you know, we must get the biggest number of signatures.:) ho and btw, Italy is discussing revoking Kosovo independence, France is the next one ;)
(the french Lazar, 15 May 2019 10:16)
Hahahaha I love it when kids get together and play . I tell you what you guys have a better chance of getting bumped by French before revoking the recognition Come on make me laugh some more please thank you
(Who, 13 May 2019 14:09)
Fact check.......your name contradicts you....!!!
Trump never ever said he would revoke Kosovo recognition. That is a fact. But he is not trying to bully one side or the other. Didnt his team say that whatever Belgrade and Pristina agree the US would support it???
However, Le Pen has openly said in public that if she is elected as president she will revoke Kosovo recognition......!!! That also is a fact.
Can I suggest Fact Check that you go back and Check your Facts.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 14 May 2019 16:13)
LOL Serbian style propaganda..
Alexis Troude is a nobody...
we all saw what France think's about radical-Serbia when they Made Vuqiqovic sit next to the toilets . And president Thaqi next to the democratic leaders
(Dardan, 13 May 2019 13:37
🤣🤣 I think Vucic was assigned to clean the toilets, he was on duty and that is why he had to sit next to the toilets.
(Just saying.., 13 May 2019 15:23)
I'm not sure if you noticed but this petition is only for French people.
(Ataman's best friend, 14 May 2019 16:15)
It's for French residents and interestingly the petition gave my full name as it is known in France based (correctly) on HU passport data, not on US or RU info. The payment was with PayPal, not a printed money.
And sorry - you aren't even funny.
(Ataman, 14 May 2019 17:29)
You good scammed and taken for a ride - again.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 May 2019 09:04)
You take an event with zero likelihood to occur (Le Pen winning the presidential elections) and use it to explain another mutually exclusive event with zero likelihood to occur (France withdrawing Kosova's recognition).
Gee man, you the Serbs have it so easy!!?
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 May 2019 00:18)
Pffff twisted logic Tom? Then why are you so worked up?
But goody it gives me a chance to play..
Let's flip the script shall we? You Albos take an event with zero likelyhood to occur (independance) and use it to justify other mutually exlusice events (recognition & taxes)
Gee man you Albos have it so easy! 123 ABC you're a country!? Nice try..lol
(Bre, 15 May 2019 08:00)
Serbia doesn’t have a chance in hell of keeping Kosovo. Forget about getting more revocations, it’s a fool’s errand. Serbia should concentrate of repairing its good name, then improve its economy. Wake up, Russia cannot and will not help Serbia. Where was Russia when we were getting bombed for 78 horrific days and nights.
(Modern Serb, 13 May 2019 14:49)
Historian my A..! Here is one of many historical facts you May have just overlap!
[link]
Was it You that declared independence on behalf of The Republic Of Kosova? NO, it was the inhabitants of The Republic Of Kosova that declared its independence!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 13 May 2019 14:48)
Pffff twisted logic Tom? Then why are you so worked up?
But goody it gives me a chance to play..
Let's flip the script shall we? You Albos take an event with zero likelyhood to occur (independance) and use it to justify other mutually exlusice events (recognition & taxes)
Gee man you Albos have it so easy! 123 ABC you're a country!? Nice try..lol
(Bre, 15 May 2019 08:00)
No one is worked up dude, you just don't know what to say hence you stick to delusions - your zone of comfortwith all your co-trolls there.
A little originality wouldn't harm you though.
(Tom L'Orizi, 16 May 2019 05:38)
The winds of change.....
Justice is slow but does com.e about.
Marine Le Pen is favourite to be next president (she was 2nd last time). She will ask for Frexit and we will see the decline of the EU. She also openly states that France will revoke Kosovo recognition. And of course Italy may well follow suit as France over the next 2 or 3 years.
I know Albanians will say its all fake news......errr, no its not.
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 15:18
Sorry to burst your bubble but the winds only have changed inside the round thing you carry around aka your HEAD. France is one of Kosova's biggest supporters!
(Time, 13 May 2019 16:48)
... as I started to fill out my data, the PayPal of course appeared.
But that is not enough: my address, appeared, too.
So I guess based on my name my address is in the data base.
Fine, I just gave 20 Euro via PayPal, that's the maximum from the list.
But since the data seem to be quite public... my humble guess is that I won't be a personal friend of Ramush-hush-hush or the Snake Pigeon Gods (Quetzalcoatl).
Unless of course if I dare to miss a kidney or two.
(Honcho Atamanovic Honchev, 14 May 2019 15:08)
If the gentlemen from France thinks that rescinding recognition from Kosovo is a good idea, then USA, UK, should revoke the recognition of France and Serbia altogether, simple physics Action=Reaction.
(Hakaj, 14 May 2019 15:27)
Hot off the press... study in Kosovo finds taxes have NOT DONE A THING except raise prices higher overall due to less competition and more logistics lololol
Internal production has not risen what so ever. No new products no new jobs.
Study done by Kosovo Albanians...
Surprise surprise..
(Bre, 13 May 2019 22:20) # Comment link
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Kosova has successfully replaced most of serb product with other regional mrighbours with macedonia benefiting the most.
Where is the link or sources of this Albanian study?
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 14 May 2019 01:25)
I'm not sure if you noticed but this petition is only for French people.
(Ataman's best friend, 14 May 2019 16:15)
It's for French residents and interestingly the petition gave my full name as it is known in France based (correctly) on HU passport data, not on US or RU info. The payment was with PayPal, not a printed money.
And sorry - you aren't even funny.
(Ataman, 14 May 2019 17:29)
The sissy French have always been Serbia’s ally so who cares if they revoke nobody likes the sissy French no wonder they are friends with Serbia.
(Joe, 13 May 2019 17:27)
After reading your comment I just thought I'd be honest by informing you that I'm not interested and therefore don't want to sign the petition.
(N.A.A., 13 May 2019 21:07)
And which "significant" countries did that?
And even though Kosovo was never supposed to be an independent country according to international law there is (poetic) Justice in this world. Those poor bastards (and I don't like them very much) suffered more than enough.
(Nicholas, 13 May 2019 14:29)
Ataman....... are you saying that Le Pen wants to stay in the EU??? Has she not said that if elected she will hold a referendum on leaving the EU?? She is the French Nigel Farage......
You may not like it but thats the deal. She has also said that if she is elected as president her government will revoke Kosovo recognition. You may not like that either but thats the way it is.
So, which parts of the above are not true...????
(VIEW FROM UK, 18 May 2019 12:27)
Ha ha ha ha, who is this trouducul? Even if future fashist France revoque recognition, who cares! We are independent with the will of our people, not with will of French, serb, Russian or another! We are in fact member of NATO with our mother Albania, and Serbs can only continue to dream and play their dirty game! Sanctions will stay as long as they play like this!
(Ha ha ha ha, 22 May 2019 16:00)
I HOPE FRANCE DOES THAT,THIS WAY KOSOVA WILL UNDERSTAND FASTER IT BELONGS WITH ALBANIA. KOSOVA IS NOT JOING ALBANIA BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THACI WANT TO STAY IN POWER LIKE EDORGAN. OPEN THE BORDER AND UNITE I SAY UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA. THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
The winds of change.....
Justice is slow but does com.e about.
Marine Le Pen is favourite to be next president (she was 2nd last time). She will ask for Frexit and we will see the decline of the EU. She also openly states that France will revoke Kosovo recognition. And of course Italy may well follow suit as France over the next 2 or 3 years.
I know Albanians will say its all fake news......errr, no its not.
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 15:18
Sorry to burst your bubble but the winds only have changed inside the round thing you carry around aka your HEAD. France is one of Kosova's biggest supporters!
(Time, 13 May 2019 16:48)
LOL Serbian style propaganda..
Alexis Troude is a nobody...
we all saw what France think's about radical-Serbia when they Made Vuqiqovic sit next to the toilets . And president Thaqi next to the democratic leaders
(Dardan, 13 May 2019 13:37)
Hahahaha I love it when kids get together and play . I tell you what you guys have a better chance of getting bumped by French before revoking the recognition Come on make me laugh some more please thank you
(Who, 13 May 2019 14:09)
LOL Serbian style propaganda..
Alexis Troude is a nobody...
we all saw what France think's about radical-Serbia when they Made Vuqiqovic sit next to the toilets . And president Thaqi next to the democratic leaders
(Dardan, 13 May 2019 13:37
🤣🤣 I think Vucic was assigned to clean the toilets, he was on duty and that is why he had to sit next to the toilets.
(Just saying.., 13 May 2019 15:23)
The sissy French have always been Serbia’s ally so who cares if they revoke nobody likes the sissy French no wonder they are friends with Serbia.
(Joe, 13 May 2019 17:27)
Serbia doesn’t have a chance in hell of keeping Kosovo. Forget about getting more revocations, it’s a fool’s errand. Serbia should concentrate of repairing its good name, then improve its economy. Wake up, Russia cannot and will not help Serbia. Where was Russia when we were getting bombed for 78 horrific days and nights.
(Modern Serb, 13 May 2019 14:49)
Historian my A..! Here is one of many historical facts you May have just overlap!
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Was it You that declared independence on behalf of The Republic Of Kosova? NO, it was the inhabitants of The Republic Of Kosova that declared its independence!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 13 May 2019 14:48)
And which "significant" countries did that?
And even though Kosovo was never supposed to be an independent country according to international law there is (poetic) Justice in this world. Those poor bastards (and I don't like them very much) suffered more than enough.
(Nicholas, 13 May 2019 14:29)
If the gentlemen from France thinks that rescinding recognition from Kosovo is a good idea, then USA, UK, should revoke the recognition of France and Serbia altogether, simple physics Action=Reaction.
(Hakaj, 14 May 2019 15:27)
... However, Le Pen has openly said in public that if she is elected as president she will revoke Kosovo recognition......!!! That also is a fact.
Can I suggest Fact Check that you go back and Check your Facts.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 14 May 2019 16:13)
If my dear aunt had hangies - she would have been called my dear uncle. That's fact too.
What a twisted logic you the Serbs use!?
You take an event with zero likelihood to occur (Le Pen winning the presidential elections) and use it to explain another mutually exclusive event with zero likelihood to occur (France withdrawing Kosova's recognition).
Gee man, you the Serbs have it so easy!!?
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 May 2019 00:18)
Actually, France is one of those countries which recently has discussed this topic to withdraw the recognition of your province.
I met a diplomat in Skopje late last year. He was not in favor to withdraw but he told me many are. I asked him why he was not in favor and he frankly said that France have interests in the Balkans and they have a good view whats going on at their embassies at the top of Dragodan and above east of Skopje centar.
If I was a Serb and Serbia, I would absolutely lobby for withdrawal. It might pay off.
(Staff, 13 May 2019 11:32)
After reading your comment I just thought I'd be honest by informing you that I'm not interested and therefore don't want to sign the petition.
(N.A.A., 13 May 2019 21:07)
Tom.......I am not sure you know or follow what is happening in Europe and the world.
Marine Le Pen came second to Macron in the last elections. Thats second, not third or last. Macron is the most unpopular president in living memory (look at the ongoing protests in yellow vests).
All opinion polls in France say Le Pen will be next French president.
She has also said many times that she will revoke Kosovo recognition if and when she is president. By the way, she also wants to give the French people the chance to leave the EU..... Frexit.
Now then Tom....which of the above is false, fake news, etc..???
I suggest you read and research a bit and then you may not look such a fool posting hollow comments.
(VIEW FROM UK, 15 May 2019 09:19)
Whether France revokes or not, is quite irrelevant actually.
France will either be on one side or the other, when the time has come.
If the the French are smart enough, they will know to adjust their foreign policy to changed circumstances.
If not, they will have no possibility to be part of a solution then.
Syria was just the beginning.
(Jovan, 13 May 2019 10:30)
With the European elections just around the corner, looks like a shift to the right is inevitable and those people are a lot more favourable towards Serbia so it seems this is just the beginning of getting the Kosovo mess sorted out and further reversing recognitions. Italy is there also and soon it will being.
(Zoran, 13 May 2019 11:20)
Hot off the press... study in Kosovo finds taxes have NOT DONE A THING except raise prices higher overall due to less competition and more logistics lololol
Internal production has not risen what so ever. No new products no new jobs.
Study done by Kosovo Albanians...
Surprise surprise..
(Bre, 13 May 2019 22:20) # Comment link
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Kosova has successfully replaced most of serb product with other regional mrighbours with macedonia benefiting the most.
Where is the link or sources of this Albanian study?
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 14 May 2019 01:25)
Pffff twisted logic Tom? Then why are you so worked up?
But goody it gives me a chance to play..
Let's flip the script shall we? You Albos take an event with zero likelyhood to occur (independance) and use it to justify other mutually exlusice events (recognition & taxes)
Gee man you Albos have it so easy! 123 ABC you're a country!? Nice try..lol
(Bre, 15 May 2019 08:00)
No one is worked up dude, you just don't know what to say hence you stick to delusions - your zone of comfortwith all your co-trolls there.
A little originality wouldn't harm you though.
(Tom L'Orizi, 16 May 2019 05:38)
The winds of change.....
Justice is slow but does com.e about.
Marine Le Pen is favourite to be next president (she was 2nd last time). She will ask for Frexit and we will see the decline of the EU. She also openly states that France will revoke Kosovo recognition. And of course Italy may well follow suit as France over the next 2 or 3 years.
I know Albanians will say its all fake news......errr, no its not.
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 15:18)
I'm not sure if you noticed but this petition is only for French people.
(Ataman's best friend, 14 May 2019 16:15)
It's for French residents and interestingly the petition gave my full name as it is known in France based (correctly) on HU passport data, not on US or RU info. The payment was with PayPal, not a printed money.
And sorry - you aren't even funny.
(Ataman, 14 May 2019 17:29)
You good scammed and taken for a ride - again.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 May 2019 09:04)
Ministry of whatever......my oh my, thats a fake laugh if ever I seen one....
Its French politicians and influential people who are starting a campaign to revoke Kosovo recognition.....you just carry on with your fake laugh....
Shall I say the words.....Marine Le Pen...??? No, butter not, we dont want you to start crying...!!
By the way, Le Pen is hot favourite to be next French president.....now that is funny.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 16:41)
You take an event with zero likelihood to occur (Le Pen winning the presidential elections) and use it to explain another mutually exclusive event with zero likelihood to occur (France withdrawing Kosova's recognition).
Gee man, you the Serbs have it so easy!!?
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 May 2019 00:18)
Pffff twisted logic Tom? Then why are you so worked up?
But goody it gives me a chance to play..
Let's flip the script shall we? You Albos take an event with zero likelyhood to occur (independance) and use it to justify other mutually exlusice events (recognition & taxes)
Gee man you Albos have it so easy! 123 ABC you're a country!? Nice try..lol
(Bre, 15 May 2019 08:00)
Sorry to burst your bubble but the winds only have changed inside the round thing you carry around aka your HEAD. France is one of Kosova's biggest supporters!
Time
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Hahaha, not if Le Penn gets in.
(Peggy, 14 May 2019 04:26)
Hot off the press... study in Kosovo finds taxes have NOT DONE A THING except raise prices higher overall due to less competition and more logistics lololol
Internal production has not risen what so ever. No new products no new jobs.
... as I started to fill out my data, the PayPal of course appeared.
But that is not enough: my address, appeared, too.
So I guess based on my name my address is in the data base.
Fine, I just gave 20 Euro via PayPal, that's the maximum from the list.
But since the data seem to be quite public... my humble guess is that I won't be a personal friend of Ramush-hush-hush or the Snake Pigeon Gods (Quetzalcoatl).
Unless of course if I dare to miss a kidney or two.
(Honcho Atamanovic Honchev, 14 May 2019 15:08)
You're probably right. But there's no doubt that there would be great interest by general population and academics/scholars for such a move in France, Italy, Hungary, Poland, Czechia and Bulgaria.
Whether the political establishment allows it is another thing. Still though, there has been more talk in the past year of withdrawing recognitions than of new recognitions.
(Ari Gold, 13 May 2019 14:47)
Sorry to burst your bubble but the winds only have changed inside the round thing you carry around aka your HEAD. France is one of Kosova's biggest supporters!
Time
Yes, everybody that matters are your biggest supporters. Ask yourself why they support you? Are you offering them anything of value? The main reason they "support" you and want an independent Kosovo is so they can send all criminal albanians spread all over europe back to prisoncamp kosova. Look at the facts. Criminal albanians being sent back in droves and Kosovo doesn't have free travel. Could it be that they want you contained? While at the same time Serbia is flurishing.
(Hank the Tank, 13 May 2019 18:24)
@Comment “we’re all for unification anyway” hmm let me think for a moment. Let’s pull things apart so that we can pull it altogether again, because we want to unified so that we can pull things apart and put them back together again. Bunch of hamsters.
(Pushka, 13 May 2019 11:46)
Ha ha ha ha, who is this trouducul? Even if future fashist France revoque recognition, who cares! We are independent with the will of our people, not with will of French, serb, Russian or another! We are in fact member of NATO with our mother Albania, and Serbs can only continue to dream and play their dirty game! Sanctions will stay as long as they play like this!
(Ha ha ha ha, 22 May 2019 16:00)
THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
Don't worry, Vulin is itching to clear out all the KLA rats in Kosovo. If Albania is stupid enough to interfere, than the Serbian Army will march straight to Durres.
(Jugolsavija, 13 May 2019 19:54)
I'm not sure if you noticed but this petition is only for French people.
(Ataman's best friend, 14 May 2019 16:15)
It's for French residents and interestingly the petition gave my full name as it is known in France based (correctly) on HU passport data, not on US or RU info. The payment was with PayPal, not a printed money.
And sorry - you aren't even funny.
(Ataman, 14 May 2019 17:29)
Serbia doesn’t have a chance in hell of keeping Kosovo. Forget about getting more revocations, it’s a fool’s errand. Serbia should concentrate of repairing its good name, then improve its economy. Wake up, Russia cannot and will not help Serbia. Where was Russia when we were getting bombed for 78 horrific days and nights.
(Modern Serb, 13 May 2019 14:49)
@ modernserbaj- you albos will try anything, 🤣
Even pretending to be a Srb, LOL
(Watcher, 13 May 2019 18:33)
OPEN THE BORDER AND UNITE I SAY UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA. THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
LOL hey angry ALL CAPS, I'd actually welcome your attempt at doing this, only the war you'll start will be over before you realize it's begun. When in the history of anything have Albanians ever won a war on their own?
I mean you're welcome to try, but you won't get any help from Uncle Sam, France, or anyone else. Still, it would almost be worth it if it finally means Albanians throughout the region are expelled and sent back to Albania. Serbia, Macedonia, and Montenegro would be a lot better off :)
(LOL, 13 May 2019 17:20)
Time.....you said absolutely nothing apart from general sweeping statement.... Do you agree that Le Pen is hot favourite to be next president? Does she not openly say she will revoke Kosovo recognition? Is this fake news???
You say France supports Kosovo....no, only Macron the maggot and his close circle do. Thats because they blindly support America. Macron is the most unpopular president in living memory, right? So, instead of general garbage from you, how about you debate the issues with facts and examples.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 13 May 2019 17:39)
Fact check.......your name contradicts you....!!!
Trump never ever said he would revoke Kosovo recognition. That is a fact. But he is not trying to bully one side or the other. Didnt his team say that whatever Belgrade and Pristina agree the US would support it???
However, Le Pen has openly said in public that if she is elected as president she will revoke Kosovo recognition......!!! That also is a fact.
Can I suggest Fact Check that you go back and Check your Facts.....
(VIEW FROM UK, 14 May 2019 16:13)
THEN IF ANYONE WANTS OR DON'T LIKE IT WE WILL GO TO A LONG VERY LONG WAR.
(ari, 13 May 2019 11:38)
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You can only threaten war when you are capable of fighting it yourself, otherwise you really need to pull your head in.
If enough the US sees there is no support from Kosovo from Europe do you think they will go to war for you?
(Peggy, 14 May 2019 04:25)
It isnt about revoking the recognition of the french. Nobody here is under the impression that a petition is going to make them do that...
This is about making them have to talk about it which will result in the political parties doing their own research about our little albo's in kosovo.
If enough facts about your little shananigans come up then it could get a lot harder for them to stay on your side instead of sitting silently and watching whas is going to happen.
That also has the posibility that that wont care if a couple of their former colonies revoke their recognition what they try to prevent. --> they will keep the recognition to save face.
etc, etc, etc... look at the long term my little albo's because it isnt all that simple.
(Nema, 13 May 2019 15:13)
according to the French law (I'm French myself) the petition can be signed by French of course but also by people living in France... so don't hesitate to share, sign the petition and spread it all over the people you know, we must get the biggest number of signatures.:) ho and btw, Italy is discussing revoking Kosovo independence, France is the next one ;)
(the french Lazar, 15 May 2019 10:16)
Ataman....... are you saying that Le Pen wants to stay in the EU??? Has she not said that if elected she will hold a referendum on leaving the EU?? She is the French Nigel Farage......
You may not like it but thats the deal. She has also said that if she is elected as president her government will revoke Kosovo recognition. You may not like that either but thats the way it is.
So, which parts of the above are not true...????
(VIEW FROM UK, 18 May 2019 12:27)