1. if you don't mind telling us which nationality is yours?
    (Peggy, 11 January 2018 02:28)

    Why does the nationality matter, dear?! All that matters about somebody's comments here is the arguments and facts that are used in those comments - the nationality of the writer is irrelevant.
    (icj1, 13 January 2018 19:53)

    Peg, I wouldn't admit I was Albanian either, or Croatian for that matter....
    (ChiTown, 15 January 2018 19:27)

    Exactly, and I wouldn't admit I was Serbian either, or any other ethnicity for that matter. I'm glad that we are in the agreement about that.
    (icj1, 16 January 2018 22:01)

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  2. if you don't mind telling us which nationality is yours?
    (Peggy, 11 January 2018 02:28)

    Why does the nationality matter, dear?! All that matters about somebody's comments here is the arguments and facts that are used in those comments - the nationality of the writer is irrelevant.
    (icj1, 13 January 2018 19:53)

    Peg, I wouldn't admit I was Albanian either, or Croatian for that matter.... Velika sramota to be associated with either.....
    (ChiTown, 15 January 2018 19:27)

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  3. if you don't mind telling us which nationality is yours?
    (Peggy, 11 January 2018 02:28)

    Why does the nationality matter, dear?! All that matters about somebody's comments here is the arguments and facts that are used in those comments - the nationality of the writer is irrelevant.
    (icj1, 13 January 2018 19:53)

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  4. Well it looks like the EU has picked a side in this dispute, and it is not Croatia. The EU usually deal with trouble makers through convenient regime changes. We will see if it happens here. How they do it may give us an idea of the way the EU will deal with other trouble makers like Poland, Hungary, or even Romania. Brian Ghilliotti
    (Brian Ghilliotti, 13 January 2018 00:09)

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  5. (adrian_bucharest, 10 January 2018 16:02)


    You need the medium salary. Average considers everyone, including the billionaires. Medium gives you a true picture of what ordinary people earn.

    So, in 2 years’ time Romania will be equal to average UK salaries? I think not.

    Maybe you tell me what does Croatia do to have such a high GDP? And remember tourism is only 3 months, so what else does it do to earn such a high GDP?

    According to Croatian authorities Croatia’s minimum annual salary is KN131,500 - Є17,424 or US$20,587. Yet in 2017, 50,000 young Croatians have left Croatia.

    Such high standard of living and in the last 3 years 250,000 have left paradise??????? Don’t you see something is wrong here? All these people leaving but government says everything is great??????

    You are hypnotised by GDP and statistics, but have no idea what they really mean or how they are derived. If Romanians are earning the same money as the German workers right now, then they have a good standard of living if not forget 2020.

    40 years ago, GDP only considered goods and services produced within the country. Today its open slather. Anything goes. Romania, Bulgaria Croatia Poland etc all count money accessed from the European Fund and Agriculture Fund as a component of their GDP. This is AID money not money earned through manufacturing or tourism.

    Today, GDP is derived using creative accounting or more commonly BS calculations.
    (sj, 11 January 2018 12:14)

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  6. I just try to bring some common sense to the discussion here and oppose the nationalists and Russian trolls. I find that the most rabid nationalists come from outside the region and cause problems for the people who have to live there. Just look at the comments on the Serbian language version on this site and the comments on the English language version.
    (Mark.W, 10 January 2018 16:53)
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    Hi Mark,
    Seeing how you're not Serbian, Croatian etc. how well do you speak Serbian and when and where did you learn it?
    If you can understand the Serbian speaking site then your command of Serbian must be very good.
    So who taught you the language and if you don't mind telling us which nationality is yours?
    (Peggy, 11 January 2018 02:28)

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  7. Watcher
    Iam Macedonian not Albanian
    Why does everything I say occur to you as an attack?

    Again its a question not a statement
    Read what I say it a good starting point no beef intended
    (Sam, 10 January 2018 22:28)

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  8. SERBS have a COMPLEX OF INFERIORITY TOWARD CROATS and CROATIA

    and they flow their hate in their neigbours
    (adrian_bucharest, 10 January 2018 17:28)

    @ Adrian - Whatever you say there, Rumune...my grandmother was a Romanian from Romania proper (village of Comoraste), married my grandfather and lived her life in Vrsac!
    I can tell you stories about the Romanians too, brother...but history shows Srbs & Roms have always lived in peace!
    So where does "hate" come into play for our Romanian neighbors? The Croats (Ustasha) have tried to exterminate us so pardon our lack of trust in them....So unless you have something worthy to say, DUTE!
    (Watcher, 10 January 2018 22:17)

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  9. SERBS have a COMPLEX OF INFERIORITY TOWARD CROATS and CROATIA

    and they flow their hate in their neigbours
    (adrian_bucharest, 10 January 2018 17:28)

    THEY DON'T KNOW SUCH WORDS AND THEY ARE THE SINGLE BALKAN PEOPLE THAT DOES NOT SUCK. LIKE ROMANIA DOES ... AND THEY DON'T TRY TO STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S LANDS LIKE ROMANIA DOES ... AND THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH NOT TO PUT TARGETS FOR THE RUSSIAN NUKES LIKE ROMANIA DOES ...
    (rote kapelle, 10 January 2018 21:16)

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  10. I've got an idea. The EU can set up its own panel, let's call it 'Badinter II' and make an arbitrary judgment that suits it the best. After all, that's what the original Badinter commission did when it ruled that that SFRY's administrative borders should be the international borders. It suited the EC states perfectly. Divide and fu!k up.
    (EU Dude, 10 January 2018 19:07)

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  11. I would like we to be friends.

    Adrian

    Kenny doesn't like friends , only enemies.He's the Croatian macho man especially when He's wearing his new dentures.Furthermore he doesn't like to be reminded all the time about the Croatian GDP figures.
    (andrew, 10 January 2018 18:26)

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  12. SERBS have a COMPLEX OF INFERIORITY TOWARD CROATS and CROATIA

    and they flow their hate in their neigbours
    (adrian_bucharest, 10 January 2018 17:28)

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  13. SJ in Bucharest average salary will be 1500 euro in 2020

    ceck our statistics you are smart !

    i am pissed off on Serbia this days because in youtube many Serbs called us gipsy and so on but if you compare Serbia with Croatia , Croatia is better in everything !
    (adrian_bucharest, 10 January 2018 16:02)


    @ Adrian - Pissed off? When emotions get involved, reason usually walks out the door...this seems to be the case with you!
    Make up your mind, either squeeze or let the fart out...you can't do both!
    I would suggest to let the fart out, if you keep it in, it will travel up your spine, get into your brain...this is how you get "shitty" ideas....just saying!
    (Watcher, 10 January 2018 17:28)

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  14. @ChiTown,

    No I am not Croatian, Serbian, Slovenian, Bosnian, Albanian or from anywhere in the region.
    I did however spend lots of time there in the 1990’s and now my work takes me back often.

    Mark, thank you for clarifying and I'm glad you're here as a neutral guest. However, I would like to get your feedback on my response. Can you please comment? Thanks in advance.
    (ChiTown, 10 January 2018 17:12)

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  15. Lenard what is your facebook or instagram ?

    i would like we to be friends
    (adrian_bucharest, 10 January 2018 17:07)

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  16. Mark, I'll go on the assumption your Croatian. The parties in the dispute both agreed to let the International Tribunal rule on this matter. The Croats lost, so they want a redo - sorry bud, doesn't work that way, and it wouldn't be fair to the Slovenes. And, of course you want this to be in Hamburg, GERMANY, they're pro-Croat and they've been your ally in every war ever fought on European soil - again, not fair to Slovenes. What is it with you and the Albos? Try to grab everything you can while you're under the protection of the US/West - you better hurry, because this support is bye bye .....
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    @ChiTown,

    No I am not Croatian, Serbian, Slovenian, Bosnian, Albanian or from anywhere in the region.
    I did however spend lots of time there in the 1990’s and now my work takes me back often.

    That is why I have an interst in the region.

    I just try to bring some common sense to the discussion here and oppose the nationalists and Russian trolls. I find that the most rabid nationalists come from outside the region and cause problems for the people who have to live there. Just look at the comments on the Serbian language version on this site and the comments on the English language version.
    (Mark.W, 10 January 2018 16:53)

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  17. SJ in Bucharest average salary will be 1500 euro in 2020

    ceck our statistics you are smart !

    i am pissed off on Serbia this days because in youtube many Serbs called us gipsy and so on but if you compare Serbia with Croatia , Croatia is better in everything !
    (adrian_bucharest, 10 January 2018 16:02)

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  18. income of houses in quater 3 from romanian statistic website and from stat gov rs serbian website of statistic in Romania 800 euro [link]

    in serbia 525 euro [link]

    In Serbia a house income is with 10% over minimum salary from Croatia

    This statistic was for LENARD
    (adrian_bucharest, 10 January 2018 15:22)

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  19. I would say to Serbs here mind your own business and dont care this is between Croatia and Slovenia just look after your own
    (Sam, 10 January 2018 05:31)

    @ sam - says the Albanian on a Srb website forum, lol...too funny!
    (Watcher, 10 January 2018 15:20)

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  20. The main sticking point seems to be the water border. All of this can be easily settled in the International Tribunal for the law of the sea in Hamburg.

    Mark, I'll go on the assumption your Croatian. The parties in the dispute both agreed to let the International Tribunal rule on this matter. The Croats lost, so they want a redo - sorry bud, doesn't work that way, and it wouldn't be fair to the Slovenes. And, of course you want this to be in Hamburg, GERMANY, they're pro-Croat and they've been your ally in every war ever fought on European soil - again, not fair to Slovenes. What is it with you and the Albos? Try to grab everything you can while you're under the protection of the US/West - you better hurry, because this support is bye bye .....
    (ChiTown, 10 January 2018 14:31)

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  21. I would say to Serbs here mind your own business and dont care this is between Croatia and Slovenia just look after your own
    (Sam, 10 January 2018 05:31)

    Gee and I thought B92 was a Serbian based media site. I had no ideas it was Croat LOL. Suggestion stay on your Ustashi site and you will not be upset.
    (sj, 10 January 2018 11:26)

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  22. Gdp per capita from 100 years

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    We had gdp per capita 18,5 pounds , Bulgaria had 13,5 , Transylvania had 16,6 Moldova had 11,3 , Russia 11,2 , Croatia-Slavonia 15 , Galicia 14 , Dalmatia 10 ,
    (adrian_bucharest, 9 January 2018 13:57)

    Look there is something wrong with you. GDP is BS. If Croatia has such a high GDP tell me what do they do to have such a high GDP? and why have 250,000 left Croatia in the last few years with 50,000 in 2017 alone?
    If the medium wage in Romania is 2000 Euros per month then you are doing great, but if not all the GDP calculations are a waste of time.
    (sj, 10 January 2018 11:10)

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  23. I would say to Serbs here mind your own business and dont care this is between Croatia and Slovenia just look after your own
    (Sam, 10 January 2018 05:31)

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  24. The middle is the only fair border between two countries when it comes to water.
    (Mark.W, 9 January 2018 17:43) Sure for Croatia and Slovenia which is already in place. Silly Slovenians shot them self's in the head by trying to load the dice in their unscrupulous favor. Croatia withdrew from the arbitration in 2015 when they found out. But the silly bureaucratic EU BS kept going now they give us a ruling couple of years later. Were mad that US gave us info on the unscrupulous dealings EU trying to punish us so pathetic. You can forget incorrigible thieving Serbia and Croatia finding a compromise. Serbs are [link] shysters and snakes.
    (Lenard, 9 January 2018 23:22)

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  25. Gdp per capita from 100 years

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    We had gdp per capita 18,5 pounds , Bulgaria had 13,5 , Transylvania had 16,6 Moldova had 11,3 , Russia 11,2 , Croatia-Slavonia 15 , Galicia 14 , Dalmatia 10 ,

    adrian_bucharest

    Yo Adrian! The economic section i on a different page. This one is about the borderdispute between Slovenia and Croatia. It easier to stick to the subject or perhaps you are hoping Le-nerd would appear. Stop making a fool of yourself with this useless and inacurate statistics about Romania. We all know that your main income comes from the millions of beggers and theives that travel to all corners of Europe to beg and steal.
    (Hank the Tank, 9 January 2018 19:06)

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  26. an observation ,

    i see that Croats always tricked Serbia and did what they wanted with Serbia

    Serbia is a collapsed country without a future , while Croatia enjoy salaries at a West level and have the beautifull coast of tourism

    Serbia is a big power at water polo but recently Croatia beated them !

    at football Croatia national team had better results and performances than Serbia and they never lost a game with 6-0 as lost Serbia in 2006 at world cup

    Croats may were Ustasha in 2 world war but they are more smart and performant than Serbs in everything !

    The only thing that Serbs know is to compare with Romanians who had 40 years of Ceausescu but when is about Croats the CROATS SMASH SERBS WITHOUT A PROBLEM in ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING

    … -> Based on facts

    The fact we overtake Croats at 1 gdp per capita in 2018 is because of the EU they are SMARTER AND SUPERIOR PEOPLE

    … Dear LENARD => you are more smart than me because you are Croat i respect you
    (adrian_bucharest, 9 January 2018 18:23)

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  27. The main sticking point seems to be the water border. All of this can be easily settled in the International Tribunal for the law of the sea in Hamburg.

    In almost all cases the border is in the middle between two countries, except in this case where Slovenia was awarded 3/4 of the bay, which will set a bad precedent for other countries.

    This will probably be overridden if they take international law into consideration rather then an arbitration.

    Serbia should be especially concerned since if Slovenia is granted the 3/4. Croatia can ask for parts of the Danube to be Croatia waters since it has claims to territory on the east bank of the Danube. This would be a bad precedent for the region as a whole.

    The middle is the only fair border between two countries when it comes to water.
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  28. "Instead of respect for international laws, we are witnessing renewed politicization and the emergence of nationalism,"

    Europeans are always yapping about international laws, while violating all of them when it suits them.

    Peter doesn't think so....

    "Croatia should put this to UN Security Council, Slovenia backed by Germany clearly violates international law on the sea and basically tries to annex Croatian waters due to illegal pressure, corruption and blackmale. "

    Exactly how Yugoslavia fell apart!

    Nobody's mentioning why Croatia isn't accepting arbitration?

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    "The Slovenian member of the arbitration tribunal ruling on the border between Slovenia and Croatia Jernej Sekolec and a country's advocate in the procedure, Simona Drenik, resigned a day after phone recordings showing they were coordinating their actions were released."

    So....there is a trial, in which judge is caught coordinating with one side and conspiring to bring about certain ruling! Such conspiracy have to be accepted as it is "rule of law"!
    Schlomo, this union is based on NO VALUES, but I hope that it will not fail. This circus is entertaining!
    (Sreten, 9 January 2018 17:28)

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  29. Croatia should put this to UN Security Council, Slovenia backed by Germany clearly violates international law on the sea and basically tries to annex Croatian waters due to illegal pressure, corruption and blackmale. Slovenia also voted against US&Israel and will recognize Palestine shortly, unlike Croatia. Croatia on the other hand is looking to buy Israelly aircrafts.
    (Peter, 9 January 2018 14:11)

    So what?!?! This was already voted on and passed - done deal. Quit crying and playing the victim all the time - soooo annoying! I'm having a difficult time understanding you Peter. So, when the your German allies are in your corner, they're great - if not, they're traitors. Make up your mind for "Pete's Sake", even though you want it, you can't have it both ways. Also, if you think Merkl will go against the EU/West, your sadly mistaken.
    (ChiTown, 9 January 2018 17:14)

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  30. "israeli aircrafts", didn't turn off automatic keyboard, sorry.
    (Peter, 9 January 2018 14:24)

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  31. Croatia should put this to UN Security Council, Slovenia backed by Germany clearly violates international law on the sea and basically tries to annex Croatian waters due to illegal pressure, corruption and blackmale. Slovenia also voted against US&Israel and will recognize Palestine shortly, unlike Croatia. Croatia on the other hand is looking to buy Israelly aircrafts.
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  32. Borders are not resolved yet both countries are part of the EU. Was this not a requirement for joining? Appears that once again we have double standards. This union is based on loose values and is bound to fail!
    (Schlomo, 9 January 2018 14:05)

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  33. Gdp per capita from 100 years

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    We had gdp per capita 18,5 pounds , Bulgaria had 13,5 , Transylvania had 16,6 Moldova had 11,3 , Russia 11,2 , Croatia-Slavonia 15 , Galicia 14 , Dalmatia 10 ,
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  34. Poor EU and their short sightedness. YU Pandora's box was never closed, it was just temporarily pacified and another opened when it came to Kosovo.

    Now they have two EU members at each other's throats. Seems borders are not resolved within the EU.
    (Zoran, 9 January 2018 11:39)

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