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Friday, 22.03.2013.

11:45

“Fist deputy PM should take part in dialogue”

Socialist Party of Serbia (SPS) deputy leader Dijana Vukomanović says she is optimistic about an agreement on Kosovo.

Izvor: Tanjug

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LaasYahNir

pre 13 godina

@Paul

You're somewhat right. Have to correct myself. Prime minister is the one with most formal power, and according to the constitution President doesn't have much power but has most legitimacy since he is chosen directly, meaning that the has ti win more then 50% of the votes.

Paul

pre 13 godina

President are the ones with most power"

good joke, I guess that Serbia had never a weaker president as nowadays...is he able to follow whats going on?

LaasYahNir

pre 13 godina

Vucic already gets involved in more things then he should. A defense minister has noting to do with these negotiations. Prime minister and the President are the ones with most power, and they should take the responsability as well.

Hugh

pre 13 godina

Kosovo's tele code, 383, I think, is not theirs, it is being offered by Albania"

Albania has 355 and only the UN-organisation ITU can provide new country-codes, and this only to states. These are the real important question for million pople who will see at their monthly phone-bill what such "little things" are maeaning in the reality. Such little things are the most important.

Mirko

pre 13 godina

Vucic's role in all this has certainly been no profile "

Vucic knew exactly what he got with Dacic only to bring Nikolic to the positon as president. Why they have not offered Dacic this position? Possibly Dacic would act like now as the real boss. Vucic knows that Dacic is in the case of the case ready to go back to his old friends from DS. And since we know that former US-ambassadors to Belgrade were making the election campaign we know what we can expect-not a lot.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Dacic made very clear that the "platform" is not a Bible for him. ...
(Nick, 22 March 2013 17:42) "

True enough. But in the political battles that follow, this will be conveniently forgotten by those of other parties looking to cast the blame on one person or one party. That's why The Internationals want Vucic involved more clearly in the negotiations, so there will be no charges of Serbia having been stabbed in the back in the future, leading to efforts to renegotiate or simply ignore whatever agreements are reached. Vucic's role in all this has certainly been no profile in courage to this point.

winston

pre 13 godina

Raud, Kosovo's tele code, 383, I think, is not theirs, it is being offered by Albania. What is with you guys and the tele code? Who cares? That is the least important. Let's get a resolution on what the N. KiM Serbs will have power of. In any case, it will not be enough, and the Albanians will get their dream realized of an ethnically pure Albanian Kosovo, as most Serbs will certainly flee, rather than be under Albanian rule. I am not sure if this is what America envisioned, but when have any of their visions come true? Take a look at Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and you have your answer. In any case, it will be interesting to see what the Kosovo economy and quality of life will there will be in 10 years. I have a feeling, not much will change. Hope I'm wrong.

Tonio

pre 13 godina

Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci stated in New York on Friday that Priština will seek war reparations from Belgrade."

And here you see that both sides are "close for an agreement". Belgrade is ignoring the realities like ever

Nick

pre 13 godina

Platform that clearly stated what they wanted"

Dacic made very clear that the "platform" is not a Bible for him. Its more for internal propaganda. He is like a driver giving signals going to the right, and going in reality to the left. His excuses as former deputy PM that he had nothng to do with the IBM-agreement was showing the direction what the serbs can expect from Dacic.

Max

pre 13 godina

She added that the EU expected First Deputy PM Aleksandar Vučić to be more actively involved in the negotiations"

But it is one side what the EU is expecting for their targets, the other side is what Serbia needs. Why the EU is expecting the involvement of Vucic? To help the Serbs to achieve better results? No, not at all. Only to have for Dacic later better excuses thathe could not more achieve and the coalition-partner was also involved, what means Vucic is also responsible forr the poor results and cannot critizise the outcome. Nobody on the side of Prishtina would need such additional persons, the EU/US are protecting them against all Serbian demands.

Amer

pre 13 godina

" How clear she made what is the real purpose of Vucic´s involvement in the talks-to cover the capitulation by Dacic.
(Jovan, 22 March 2013 12:57) "

The "capitulation by Dacic" - it's already started. In the future it won't be that "Serbia" had to make concessions, but that somebody named Dacic treacherously surrendered part of historic Serbia to Kosovo while the rest of the government stood helplessly by. After all, Parliament had passed a resolution based on a Platform that clearly stated what they wanted. That should have guaranteed they would get it, right? Vucic was clearly told when he visited Berlin and Brussels what the outcome of these negotiations would be, and decided that he was going to stay as far away from them as possible, as would any sensible politician with an eye on his future.

Ruud

pre 13 godina

“The paper was already on the table,”

One point is the new country-code for Kosovo 383, what means that the IPU in charge for such country-codes is giving them only to STATES. So Serbia is indirectly helping Kosovo to be recognized by an important UN-organisation. We can see what happened in the case of Palestine: this organization is accepting Palestine with its country-code 970 as de-facto state, but how is the reality? The system of Palestine is connected with the Israel-ssystem 972 and lets say from germany you must use the country-code from Israel 972 to call a nuber in Pallestine. I am sure that Serbia has not insist on the connection of the telefone systems, this would mean for the people in Kosovska Mitrovica a call to Nis is in the future a call to another country with much more higher costs. All these details are hidden to the normal Serbs by Dacic. It will be a huge surprise what is on the table. And we know the regret from dacic like in the past: we have to accept what we have signed etc etc.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

“The paper was already on the table,” she said and added that the main goal was to secure survival of 130,000-150,000 Serbs in Kosovo who needed help so they could stay in Kosovo."

The little blond lady has problems to see the realities. The paper which is on the table will lead to the exodus of the Serbs from Kosovo. Not papers, only facts can improve or secure the stay of the last Serbs there. But in real things Belgrade is not interested. How clear she made
what is the real purpose of Vucic´s involvement in the talks-to cover the capitulation by Dacic.

Alo Alo

pre 13 godina

“The paper was already on the table,” she said and added that the main goal was to secure survival of 130,000-150,000 Serbs in Kosovo who needed help so they could stay in Kosovo.

Ok so can we once and for all stop with people on this forum say that 250,000 need to return to Kosovo!!! If there are 150K in Kosovo this means 100K left at least 50K army and Police which should never be allowed and sure they do not want. I do not see any more than 10K Serbs willing to return after 14years as many Albanins who took asylum around the world will not.

Happy Friday!

Alo Alo

pre 13 godina

“The paper was already on the table,” she said and added that the main goal was to secure survival of 130,000-150,000 Serbs in Kosovo who needed help so they could stay in Kosovo.

Ok so can we once and for all stop with people on this forum say that 250,000 need to return to Kosovo!!! If there are 150K in Kosovo this means 100K left at least 50K army and Police which should never be allowed and sure they do not want. I do not see any more than 10K Serbs willing to return after 14years as many Albanins who took asylum around the world will not.

Happy Friday!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

“The paper was already on the table,” she said and added that the main goal was to secure survival of 130,000-150,000 Serbs in Kosovo who needed help so they could stay in Kosovo."

The little blond lady has problems to see the realities. The paper which is on the table will lead to the exodus of the Serbs from Kosovo. Not papers, only facts can improve or secure the stay of the last Serbs there. But in real things Belgrade is not interested. How clear she made
what is the real purpose of Vucic´s involvement in the talks-to cover the capitulation by Dacic.

Ruud

pre 13 godina

“The paper was already on the table,”

One point is the new country-code for Kosovo 383, what means that the IPU in charge for such country-codes is giving them only to STATES. So Serbia is indirectly helping Kosovo to be recognized by an important UN-organisation. We can see what happened in the case of Palestine: this organization is accepting Palestine with its country-code 970 as de-facto state, but how is the reality? The system of Palestine is connected with the Israel-ssystem 972 and lets say from germany you must use the country-code from Israel 972 to call a nuber in Pallestine. I am sure that Serbia has not insist on the connection of the telefone systems, this would mean for the people in Kosovska Mitrovica a call to Nis is in the future a call to another country with much more higher costs. All these details are hidden to the normal Serbs by Dacic. It will be a huge surprise what is on the table. And we know the regret from dacic like in the past: we have to accept what we have signed etc etc.

Amer

pre 13 godina

" How clear she made what is the real purpose of Vucic´s involvement in the talks-to cover the capitulation by Dacic.
(Jovan, 22 March 2013 12:57) "

The "capitulation by Dacic" - it's already started. In the future it won't be that "Serbia" had to make concessions, but that somebody named Dacic treacherously surrendered part of historic Serbia to Kosovo while the rest of the government stood helplessly by. After all, Parliament had passed a resolution based on a Platform that clearly stated what they wanted. That should have guaranteed they would get it, right? Vucic was clearly told when he visited Berlin and Brussels what the outcome of these negotiations would be, and decided that he was going to stay as far away from them as possible, as would any sensible politician with an eye on his future.

Nick

pre 13 godina

Platform that clearly stated what they wanted"

Dacic made very clear that the "platform" is not a Bible for him. Its more for internal propaganda. He is like a driver giving signals going to the right, and going in reality to the left. His excuses as former deputy PM that he had nothng to do with the IBM-agreement was showing the direction what the serbs can expect from Dacic.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Dacic made very clear that the "platform" is not a Bible for him. ...
(Nick, 22 March 2013 17:42) "

True enough. But in the political battles that follow, this will be conveniently forgotten by those of other parties looking to cast the blame on one person or one party. That's why The Internationals want Vucic involved more clearly in the negotiations, so there will be no charges of Serbia having been stabbed in the back in the future, leading to efforts to renegotiate or simply ignore whatever agreements are reached. Vucic's role in all this has certainly been no profile in courage to this point.

Tonio

pre 13 godina

Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci stated in New York on Friday that Priština will seek war reparations from Belgrade."

And here you see that both sides are "close for an agreement". Belgrade is ignoring the realities like ever

Max

pre 13 godina

She added that the EU expected First Deputy PM Aleksandar Vučić to be more actively involved in the negotiations"

But it is one side what the EU is expecting for their targets, the other side is what Serbia needs. Why the EU is expecting the involvement of Vucic? To help the Serbs to achieve better results? No, not at all. Only to have for Dacic later better excuses thathe could not more achieve and the coalition-partner was also involved, what means Vucic is also responsible forr the poor results and cannot critizise the outcome. Nobody on the side of Prishtina would need such additional persons, the EU/US are protecting them against all Serbian demands.

winston

pre 13 godina

Raud, Kosovo's tele code, 383, I think, is not theirs, it is being offered by Albania. What is with you guys and the tele code? Who cares? That is the least important. Let's get a resolution on what the N. KiM Serbs will have power of. In any case, it will not be enough, and the Albanians will get their dream realized of an ethnically pure Albanian Kosovo, as most Serbs will certainly flee, rather than be under Albanian rule. I am not sure if this is what America envisioned, but when have any of their visions come true? Take a look at Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and you have your answer. In any case, it will be interesting to see what the Kosovo economy and quality of life will there will be in 10 years. I have a feeling, not much will change. Hope I'm wrong.

Mirko

pre 13 godina

Vucic's role in all this has certainly been no profile "

Vucic knew exactly what he got with Dacic only to bring Nikolic to the positon as president. Why they have not offered Dacic this position? Possibly Dacic would act like now as the real boss. Vucic knows that Dacic is in the case of the case ready to go back to his old friends from DS. And since we know that former US-ambassadors to Belgrade were making the election campaign we know what we can expect-not a lot.

Paul

pre 13 godina

President are the ones with most power"

good joke, I guess that Serbia had never a weaker president as nowadays...is he able to follow whats going on?

Hugh

pre 13 godina

Kosovo's tele code, 383, I think, is not theirs, it is being offered by Albania"

Albania has 355 and only the UN-organisation ITU can provide new country-codes, and this only to states. These are the real important question for million pople who will see at their monthly phone-bill what such "little things" are maeaning in the reality. Such little things are the most important.

LaasYahNir

pre 13 godina

Vucic already gets involved in more things then he should. A defense minister has noting to do with these negotiations. Prime minister and the President are the ones with most power, and they should take the responsability as well.

LaasYahNir

pre 13 godina

@Paul

You're somewhat right. Have to correct myself. Prime minister is the one with most formal power, and according to the constitution President doesn't have much power but has most legitimacy since he is chosen directly, meaning that the has ti win more then 50% of the votes.

Alo Alo

pre 13 godina

“The paper was already on the table,” she said and added that the main goal was to secure survival of 130,000-150,000 Serbs in Kosovo who needed help so they could stay in Kosovo.

Ok so can we once and for all stop with people on this forum say that 250,000 need to return to Kosovo!!! If there are 150K in Kosovo this means 100K left at least 50K army and Police which should never be allowed and sure they do not want. I do not see any more than 10K Serbs willing to return after 14years as many Albanins who took asylum around the world will not.

Happy Friday!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

“The paper was already on the table,” she said and added that the main goal was to secure survival of 130,000-150,000 Serbs in Kosovo who needed help so they could stay in Kosovo."

The little blond lady has problems to see the realities. The paper which is on the table will lead to the exodus of the Serbs from Kosovo. Not papers, only facts can improve or secure the stay of the last Serbs there. But in real things Belgrade is not interested. How clear she made
what is the real purpose of Vucic´s involvement in the talks-to cover the capitulation by Dacic.

winston

pre 13 godina

Raud, Kosovo's tele code, 383, I think, is not theirs, it is being offered by Albania. What is with you guys and the tele code? Who cares? That is the least important. Let's get a resolution on what the N. KiM Serbs will have power of. In any case, it will not be enough, and the Albanians will get their dream realized of an ethnically pure Albanian Kosovo, as most Serbs will certainly flee, rather than be under Albanian rule. I am not sure if this is what America envisioned, but when have any of their visions come true? Take a look at Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and you have your answer. In any case, it will be interesting to see what the Kosovo economy and quality of life will there will be in 10 years. I have a feeling, not much will change. Hope I'm wrong.

Mirko

pre 13 godina

Vucic's role in all this has certainly been no profile "

Vucic knew exactly what he got with Dacic only to bring Nikolic to the positon as president. Why they have not offered Dacic this position? Possibly Dacic would act like now as the real boss. Vucic knows that Dacic is in the case of the case ready to go back to his old friends from DS. And since we know that former US-ambassadors to Belgrade were making the election campaign we know what we can expect-not a lot.

LaasYahNir

pre 13 godina

Vucic already gets involved in more things then he should. A defense minister has noting to do with these negotiations. Prime minister and the President are the ones with most power, and they should take the responsability as well.

Ruud

pre 13 godina

“The paper was already on the table,”

One point is the new country-code for Kosovo 383, what means that the IPU in charge for such country-codes is giving them only to STATES. So Serbia is indirectly helping Kosovo to be recognized by an important UN-organisation. We can see what happened in the case of Palestine: this organization is accepting Palestine with its country-code 970 as de-facto state, but how is the reality? The system of Palestine is connected with the Israel-ssystem 972 and lets say from germany you must use the country-code from Israel 972 to call a nuber in Pallestine. I am sure that Serbia has not insist on the connection of the telefone systems, this would mean for the people in Kosovska Mitrovica a call to Nis is in the future a call to another country with much more higher costs. All these details are hidden to the normal Serbs by Dacic. It will be a huge surprise what is on the table. And we know the regret from dacic like in the past: we have to accept what we have signed etc etc.

Max

pre 13 godina

She added that the EU expected First Deputy PM Aleksandar Vučić to be more actively involved in the negotiations"

But it is one side what the EU is expecting for their targets, the other side is what Serbia needs. Why the EU is expecting the involvement of Vucic? To help the Serbs to achieve better results? No, not at all. Only to have for Dacic later better excuses thathe could not more achieve and the coalition-partner was also involved, what means Vucic is also responsible forr the poor results and cannot critizise the outcome. Nobody on the side of Prishtina would need such additional persons, the EU/US are protecting them against all Serbian demands.

Amer

pre 13 godina

" How clear she made what is the real purpose of Vucic´s involvement in the talks-to cover the capitulation by Dacic.
(Jovan, 22 March 2013 12:57) "

The "capitulation by Dacic" - it's already started. In the future it won't be that "Serbia" had to make concessions, but that somebody named Dacic treacherously surrendered part of historic Serbia to Kosovo while the rest of the government stood helplessly by. After all, Parliament had passed a resolution based on a Platform that clearly stated what they wanted. That should have guaranteed they would get it, right? Vucic was clearly told when he visited Berlin and Brussels what the outcome of these negotiations would be, and decided that he was going to stay as far away from them as possible, as would any sensible politician with an eye on his future.

Nick

pre 13 godina

Platform that clearly stated what they wanted"

Dacic made very clear that the "platform" is not a Bible for him. Its more for internal propaganda. He is like a driver giving signals going to the right, and going in reality to the left. His excuses as former deputy PM that he had nothng to do with the IBM-agreement was showing the direction what the serbs can expect from Dacic.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Dacic made very clear that the "platform" is not a Bible for him. ...
(Nick, 22 March 2013 17:42) "

True enough. But in the political battles that follow, this will be conveniently forgotten by those of other parties looking to cast the blame on one person or one party. That's why The Internationals want Vucic involved more clearly in the negotiations, so there will be no charges of Serbia having been stabbed in the back in the future, leading to efforts to renegotiate or simply ignore whatever agreements are reached. Vucic's role in all this has certainly been no profile in courage to this point.

Tonio

pre 13 godina

Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci stated in New York on Friday that Priština will seek war reparations from Belgrade."

And here you see that both sides are "close for an agreement". Belgrade is ignoring the realities like ever

Hugh

pre 13 godina

Kosovo's tele code, 383, I think, is not theirs, it is being offered by Albania"

Albania has 355 and only the UN-organisation ITU can provide new country-codes, and this only to states. These are the real important question for million pople who will see at their monthly phone-bill what such "little things" are maeaning in the reality. Such little things are the most important.

Paul

pre 13 godina

President are the ones with most power"

good joke, I guess that Serbia had never a weaker president as nowadays...is he able to follow whats going on?

LaasYahNir

pre 13 godina

@Paul

You're somewhat right. Have to correct myself. Prime minister is the one with most formal power, and according to the constitution President doesn't have much power but has most legitimacy since he is chosen directly, meaning that the has ti win more then 50% of the votes.