(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
Albanian Army cannot move before late spring because in early spring the goats and donkeys have their little ones and you must give animals time to recuperate before riding them into battle.
You nightmare will continue and no one will lift a finger to change it.
The only thing Serbia cannot do is physically liberate Kosovo i Metohija from occupation at this very moment.
(Ari Gold, 26 December 2012 18:51)
Why not ? As it's been proved over and over again in these forums Albanians are no match for the heroic Serbs. In addition, the CE of the B92 forums sj has already shown that US, NATO, EU or any other Serbia's enemy are all p... and wind. So, why can't Serbia liberate Kosovo ?! Is it because Serbia's traitorous government is unwilling to do so ?
I for one think that Kosovo should immediately join Albania and invite the Albanian army in to defend it borders. Then all this legal nightmare comes to an end.
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
XD, I hear what your saying but there is no need for Albania to send in thier troops! A little bit of that old weoponary that is set for destruction, will be more then sufficient for Kosova! We have more then enough manpower to take care of anything Serbia can send Kosova's way! Why back in 1997-1999 the kosovars only had ak-47s and some old RPGs, and we were still able to whoop some of those Serbian platoons a...! Just have some stockpiles, on the border ready for us, and then let Serbia make that fatal move, of aggression against Kosova again! You'll witness something no one ever thought possible! CNN, will be broadcasting Kosovar divisions at Belgrade's doorsteps! Serbia does however process a very formidable capability! If Kosova can manage to aqurie a 30-50% capability, to match that of Serbia's Heavy weaponry? I give you my word! Serbia will come down like a house of cards! We know who these Serbs are!
(Rocky, 26 December 2012 17:49)
I hope y'all traded your Nikes for some cleated shoes. Although Albania might be close, it's all uphill and slippery in the winter. Here is a link to some war-drum-like-music to pump you up and ruffle your feathers before Serbia comes down like a house of cards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZKPiZl3wZs
“The platform is the last act, I have been writing it for years."
Seriously dude? Either you're a horrible liar, or a total dumba$$. Anyone in these forums could come up with this BS you call a platform in less than 2 hours. All you did is copy paste all your previous so called platforms and remove the stupid title " more than autonomy, less than independence". Ahh but the brand new concept here is as you put it " more than we can get, less than we can give". Genius, no wonder it took so many years.
Some Serbs seem to think democracy is about having election until you get the desired result.
What a truly broken place
(Danilo, 26 December 2012 15:48)
You are the only one that is broken. LOL hows the weather in Zagreb these days, Ujko? We haven't heard from you in a long, long time!
When your socialists in Serbia ran for elections, they did not run on the policies they are currently carrying out. They ran a dishonest campaign and I did not hear mention of dialogue with Thaci during Dhaciq's campain not once. So of course elections should be called (but better wholesale, institutional changes before simple elections).
As I said the only person that is broken is you. You can see it just by the way you type how miserable of a person you've become. Probably so much so that you can't stand to wake up in the morning and even comment on b92 which is why you are a ghost (although my theory is you are 'Lenard' or one of these other hyenas).
I give you my word! Serbia will come down like a house of cards! We know who these Serbs are!
(Rocky, 26 December 2012 17:49)
Well thanks for your word! I will give you my organs if you are right :p
But Serbia will fall like a house of cards? Can you please show me one conflict in the Balkans in which the Albanians went at it alone and came out on top? Presevo? Macedonia? Mitrovica in 2011? These were all defeats without Western help, and embarrassing ones.
Mitrovica especially, you had Serbs who were not even backed by their own state and even they, some local Serbs defeated your ROSU terrorist unit which resulted into a sad retreat back to the drug induced stronghold of Pristina.
... Oh yea we all know your rebuttal to that. You compare the Serbian peoples heroic victory over the occupying terrorists to the March 2004 Islamist pogroms where Albanian men raped 14 year old Serbian girls and burned down the oldest buildings standing on Kosovo i Metohija (proof of who the Holy province really belongs to)
You glorify rape. You are one sick individual. No matter, thankfully not all Serbs are 14 year old girls i.e. Serbs of Mitrovica.
The only thing Serbia cannot do is physically liberate Kosovo i Metohija from occupation at this very moment. But diplomatically yes it in fact can do much. If Serbia's position is irrelevant then explain to me the meaning behind Merkel and Clinton's visits to Belgrade, explain to me these negotiations that both the EU and USA see as important and vital to the region, explain all the conditions and arm twisting if Serbia really doesn't matter.
Face it, for the occupation to have long term legitimacy, the occupiers MUST get the Serbian governments full and permanent support because otherwise it can be legally challenged and therefore have weak legs to stand on.
I for one think that Kosovo should immediately join Albania and invite the Albanian army in to defend it borders. Then all this legal nightmare comes to an end.
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
XD, I hear what your saying but there is no need for Albania to send in thier troops! A little bit of that old weoponary that is set for destruction, will be more then sufficient for Kosova! We have more then enough manpower to take care of anything Serbia can send Kosova's way! Why back in 1997-1999 the kosovars only had ak-47s and some old RPGs, and we were still able to whoop some of those Serbian platoons a...! Just have some stockpiles, on the border ready for us, and then let Serbia make that fatal move, of aggression against Kosova again! You'll witness something no one ever thought possible! CNN, will be broadcasting Kosovar divisions at Belgrade's doorsteps! Serbia does however process a very formidable capability! If Kosova can manage to aqurie a 30-50% capability, to match that of Serbia's Heavy weaponry? I give you my word! Serbia will come down like a house of cards! We know who these Serbs are!
It's unrealistic and in fact delusional to say something exists when in fact it does not exist. Kosovo as an independent state does not exist. If it existed, everyone would agree it existed. Nobody disagrees, for instance, to the existence of Albania. Thus, for you to say that Kosovo exists when it doesn't exist is pure delusion. Yet, you criticize the president???
(Daniel, 26 December 2012 12:39)
This is a very interesting approach that something exists only if everyone would agree it existed. Great... so, I, for one, don't agree that Serbia exists - so, based on your approach, Serbia indeed does not exist. Wow, it was so easy to wipe Serbia out of existence - where have you been my friend ?! We could have solved the Serbian issue long ago.
The ones who are blocking Kosovo becoming a normal state are the corrupt criminals and election fakers in the Kosovo government who only care for the wealth and business of their own family and clan members instead of trying to create a European, democratic state for the benefit of the ordinary people living there.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 December 2012 15:49)
I am in agreement with you a 100% but Serbia isnt helping either.
The current Serbian prime minister was member of that cabinet or Nikolic "forgot". Still the agreement could have been made void.
"There is something that can no longer be executed, and that is allowing Kosovo to one day be independent." Fortunately or unfortunately for Serbia will not be asked to be allow Kosovo independence. Being asked to recognize Kosovo independence is totally different thing. The second would contribute a lot to solve the historical wounds between Serbs and Albanians. If Serbia does not want...in Albanian we say "Kurre mos dac" which means basically "we will not be force you and the choice/consequences good or bad is yours"
and Nikolic's madness continues and continues....
"the platform's goal was to put an end to that "erosion" - for Serbia to open its eyes:
"We had our heads stuck in the sand, while Kosovo and Metohija was going away."
“The platform is the last act, I have been writing it for years."
"How long are we going to go on like this?"
"We would even have to change this platform next year."
"..the EU is facing a difficult challenge after the platform was presented."
He also thinks that the Serbian Prime Minister is an idiot...)))
“Dačić now has the duty to implement, he is not negotiating. There is no new topic here, this is about the implementation.
To help Nikolic in his "hard work with his platform" why not asking Serbian people in a referendum whether they want to have an EU prospect with Kosovo as independent
"Any important decision regarding Kosovo i Metohija since the end of the war needed to and has received the full support of the state of Serbia, as this was the only way it could have ever been considered legal, because Kosovo i Metohija is Serbia unless Serbia says so".
Hold your horses body. Serbia in no shape to do anything at all when it comes to Kosovo. Serbia can not defend Kosovo when it doesnt have a single boot on the ground. The only reason Kosovo is not yet a full member of UN is because of threat of Russian veto.
Remember at some point Kosovo is going to have to decide should it continue to remain a paralyzed state or should it join Albania. I guess if you are Kosovar you know the obivous choice. It is a shame that Serbia is trying to block the path of the people of Kosovo. Serbia will not succeed no matter how hard it tries. I for one think that Kosovo should immediately join Albania and invite the Albanian army in to defend it borders. Then all this legal nightmare comes to an end.
"It is a shame that Serbia is trying to block the path of the people of Kosovo. Serbia will not succeed no matter how hard it tries. "
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
The ones who are blocking Kosovo becoming a normal state are the corrupt criminals and election fakers in the Kosovo government who only care for the wealth and business of their own family and clan members instead of trying to create a European, democratic state for the benefit of the ordinary people living there.
"There is something that can no longer be executed, and that is allowing Kosovo to one day be independent. It seems to me that plenty has been done in a fog to recognize Kosovo and Metohija.
Tomislav, someone should have first awakend you from your deep sleep, prior to you ascending to the position of president! Serbia, has already had plenty of dreamers for the past 25 years! And it has cost the Serb people enormously! However, one positive note here, for the vast majority in the Balkans that would like to see Serbia continue its sinking deeper into the abyss, this policy by Tomo, is godsend! What more can one ask for?
"Thus, for you to say that Kosovo exists when it doesn't exist is pure delusion. Yet"
(Daniel, 26 December 2012 12:39)
What is more delusional? To think that 'Kosovo is Serbia' or to think Kosovo is an 'independent state' like the 193 other states in the world? I don't know, but both positions haven't much in common with the real world.
Yet, you criticize the president???
(Daniel, 26 December 2012 12:39)
Without hesitation. Delusional is indeed a very proper description of his proposal. Nobody outside Serbia takes it serious and even the comments inside Serbia speak volumes. In fact, some might wonder what was the real purpose of this all and indeed some already pointed it out here. Nikolic sees it as a victory that Albanians already were making clear that they would call of the negotiations when that platform comes into discussion. What exactly is the success in this? I thought it is about finding a solution?
Nikolic just gave exactly what many already think. That Freudian slip is a dead-give-away what he really had in mind with it and that it is only a hollow provocation. As such it will find it proper end on the garbage of human history and he should be quite thankful if his presidency will not share the same fate. In a certain way he was still successful. Serbia is economically a totally broken country. Highest inflation rate in Europe, 170 000 jobs destroyed this year only and sky rocketing debts. And yet, the major talk is Kosovo.
"President describes Kosovo platform as realistic"
Nikolic reality does not necessarily refer to the real world. In fact, I never read something more afar from reality than then this "platform" and he himself admits that he his clueless what comes next. More likely is a public humiliation for him and an end of his presidency and that government. With those results in economy it would be anyway overdue. The people is tired of the Kosovization of policy. They need a future and not dreams of a lost past.
(Commentator, 26 December 2012 10:37)
It's unrealistic and in fact delusional to say something exists when in fact it does not exist. Kosovo as an independent state does not exist. If it existed, everyone would agree it existed. Nobody disagrees, for instance, to the existence of Albania. Thus, for you to say that Kosovo exists when it doesn't exist is pure delusion. Yet, you criticize the president???
"President describes Kosovo platform as realistic"
Nikolic reality does not necessarily refer to the real world. In fact, I never read something more afar from reality than then this "platform" and he himself admits that he his clueless what comes next. More likely is a public humiliation for him and an end of his presidency and that government. With those results in economy it would be anyway overdue. The people is tired of the Kosovization of policy. They need a future and not dreams of a lost past.
"I will sooner withdraw from the negotiations than take part in something that is not good for Serbia," President Tomislav Nikolić has said.
You are the President of Serbia and you have the power to put an end to these negotiations and call elections because Prime minister Dhaciq did not achieve his election result off campaigning to legitimize the occupation of Kosovo i Metohija. If he is so confident in his policies then he and the Socialists can invite Thaci to a pre-election rally and honestly tell the people of Serbia what his positions are.
The reality is accepting these ridiculous conditions and 'negotiations' will not benefit anyone in Serbia that isn't already happily fed. EU candidacy means absolutely nothing, will not result into more jobs or better living standards. Ending these negotiations can and will only hurt the occupational administration-both Albanian and Western. Any important decision regarding Kosovo i Metohija since the end of the war needed to and has received the full support of the state of Serbia, as this was the only way it could have ever been considered legal, because Kosovo i Metohija is Serbia unless Serbia says so.
"I will sooner withdraw from the negotiations than take part in something that is not good for Serbia," President Tomislav Nikolić has said.
You are the President of Serbia and you have the power to put an end to these negotiations and call elections because Prime minister Dhaciq did not achieve his election result off campaigning to legitimize the occupation of Kosovo i Metohija. If he is so confident in his policies then he and the Socialists can invite Thaci to a pre-election rally and honestly tell the people of Serbia what his positions are.
The reality is accepting these ridiculous conditions and 'negotiations' will not benefit anyone in Serbia that isn't already happily fed. EU candidacy means absolutely nothing, will not result into more jobs or better living standards. Ending these negotiations can and will only hurt the occupational administration-both Albanian and Western. Any important decision regarding Kosovo i Metohija since the end of the war needed to and has received the full support of the state of Serbia, as this was the only way it could have ever been considered legal, because Kosovo i Metohija is Serbia unless Serbia says so.
"President describes Kosovo platform as realistic"
Nikolic reality does not necessarily refer to the real world. In fact, I never read something more afar from reality than then this "platform" and he himself admits that he his clueless what comes next. More likely is a public humiliation for him and an end of his presidency and that government. With those results in economy it would be anyway overdue. The people is tired of the Kosovization of policy. They need a future and not dreams of a lost past.
Yet, you criticize the president???
(Daniel, 26 December 2012 12:39)
Without hesitation. Delusional is indeed a very proper description of his proposal. Nobody outside Serbia takes it serious and even the comments inside Serbia speak volumes. In fact, some might wonder what was the real purpose of this all and indeed some already pointed it out here. Nikolic sees it as a victory that Albanians already were making clear that they would call of the negotiations when that platform comes into discussion. What exactly is the success in this? I thought it is about finding a solution?
Nikolic just gave exactly what many already think. That Freudian slip is a dead-give-away what he really had in mind with it and that it is only a hollow provocation. As such it will find it proper end on the garbage of human history and he should be quite thankful if his presidency will not share the same fate. In a certain way he was still successful. Serbia is economically a totally broken country. Highest inflation rate in Europe, 170 000 jobs destroyed this year only and sky rocketing debts. And yet, the major talk is Kosovo.
"There is something that can no longer be executed, and that is allowing Kosovo to one day be independent. It seems to me that plenty has been done in a fog to recognize Kosovo and Metohija.
Tomislav, someone should have first awakend you from your deep sleep, prior to you ascending to the position of president! Serbia, has already had plenty of dreamers for the past 25 years! And it has cost the Serb people enormously! However, one positive note here, for the vast majority in the Balkans that would like to see Serbia continue its sinking deeper into the abyss, this policy by Tomo, is godsend! What more can one ask for?
"Thus, for you to say that Kosovo exists when it doesn't exist is pure delusion. Yet"
(Daniel, 26 December 2012 12:39)
What is more delusional? To think that 'Kosovo is Serbia' or to think Kosovo is an 'independent state' like the 193 other states in the world? I don't know, but both positions haven't much in common with the real world.
"President describes Kosovo platform as realistic"
Nikolic reality does not necessarily refer to the real world. In fact, I never read something more afar from reality than then this "platform" and he himself admits that he his clueless what comes next. More likely is a public humiliation for him and an end of his presidency and that government. With those results in economy it would be anyway overdue. The people is tired of the Kosovization of policy. They need a future and not dreams of a lost past.
(Commentator, 26 December 2012 10:37)
It's unrealistic and in fact delusional to say something exists when in fact it does not exist. Kosovo as an independent state does not exist. If it existed, everyone would agree it existed. Nobody disagrees, for instance, to the existence of Albania. Thus, for you to say that Kosovo exists when it doesn't exist is pure delusion. Yet, you criticize the president???
"Any important decision regarding Kosovo i Metohija since the end of the war needed to and has received the full support of the state of Serbia, as this was the only way it could have ever been considered legal, because Kosovo i Metohija is Serbia unless Serbia says so".
Hold your horses body. Serbia in no shape to do anything at all when it comes to Kosovo. Serbia can not defend Kosovo when it doesnt have a single boot on the ground. The only reason Kosovo is not yet a full member of UN is because of threat of Russian veto.
Remember at some point Kosovo is going to have to decide should it continue to remain a paralyzed state or should it join Albania. I guess if you are Kosovar you know the obivous choice. It is a shame that Serbia is trying to block the path of the people of Kosovo. Serbia will not succeed no matter how hard it tries. I for one think that Kosovo should immediately join Albania and invite the Albanian army in to defend it borders. Then all this legal nightmare comes to an end.
Some Serbs seem to think democracy is about having election until you get the desired result.
What a truly broken place
(Danilo, 26 December 2012 15:48)
You are the only one that is broken. LOL hows the weather in Zagreb these days, Ujko? We haven't heard from you in a long, long time!
When your socialists in Serbia ran for elections, they did not run on the policies they are currently carrying out. They ran a dishonest campaign and I did not hear mention of dialogue with Thaci during Dhaciq's campain not once. So of course elections should be called (but better wholesale, institutional changes before simple elections).
As I said the only person that is broken is you. You can see it just by the way you type how miserable of a person you've become. Probably so much so that you can't stand to wake up in the morning and even comment on b92 which is why you are a ghost (although my theory is you are 'Lenard' or one of these other hyenas).
The current Serbian prime minister was member of that cabinet or Nikolic "forgot". Still the agreement could have been made void.
"There is something that can no longer be executed, and that is allowing Kosovo to one day be independent." Fortunately or unfortunately for Serbia will not be asked to be allow Kosovo independence. Being asked to recognize Kosovo independence is totally different thing. The second would contribute a lot to solve the historical wounds between Serbs and Albanians. If Serbia does not want...in Albanian we say "Kurre mos dac" which means basically "we will not be force you and the choice/consequences good or bad is yours"
and Nikolic's madness continues and continues....
"the platform's goal was to put an end to that "erosion" - for Serbia to open its eyes:
"We had our heads stuck in the sand, while Kosovo and Metohija was going away."
“The platform is the last act, I have been writing it for years."
"How long are we going to go on like this?"
"We would even have to change this platform next year."
"..the EU is facing a difficult challenge after the platform was presented."
He also thinks that the Serbian Prime Minister is an idiot...)))
“Dačić now has the duty to implement, he is not negotiating. There is no new topic here, this is about the implementation.
To help Nikolic in his "hard work with his platform" why not asking Serbian people in a referendum whether they want to have an EU prospect with Kosovo as independent
"It is a shame that Serbia is trying to block the path of the people of Kosovo. Serbia will not succeed no matter how hard it tries. "
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
The ones who are blocking Kosovo becoming a normal state are the corrupt criminals and election fakers in the Kosovo government who only care for the wealth and business of their own family and clan members instead of trying to create a European, democratic state for the benefit of the ordinary people living there.
It's unrealistic and in fact delusional to say something exists when in fact it does not exist. Kosovo as an independent state does not exist. If it existed, everyone would agree it existed. Nobody disagrees, for instance, to the existence of Albania. Thus, for you to say that Kosovo exists when it doesn't exist is pure delusion. Yet, you criticize the president???
(Daniel, 26 December 2012 12:39)
This is a very interesting approach that something exists only if everyone would agree it existed. Great... so, I, for one, don't agree that Serbia exists - so, based on your approach, Serbia indeed does not exist. Wow, it was so easy to wipe Serbia out of existence - where have you been my friend ?! We could have solved the Serbian issue long ago.
I give you my word! Serbia will come down like a house of cards! We know who these Serbs are!
(Rocky, 26 December 2012 17:49)
Well thanks for your word! I will give you my organs if you are right :p
But Serbia will fall like a house of cards? Can you please show me one conflict in the Balkans in which the Albanians went at it alone and came out on top? Presevo? Macedonia? Mitrovica in 2011? These were all defeats without Western help, and embarrassing ones.
Mitrovica especially, you had Serbs who were not even backed by their own state and even they, some local Serbs defeated your ROSU terrorist unit which resulted into a sad retreat back to the drug induced stronghold of Pristina.
... Oh yea we all know your rebuttal to that. You compare the Serbian peoples heroic victory over the occupying terrorists to the March 2004 Islamist pogroms where Albanian men raped 14 year old Serbian girls and burned down the oldest buildings standing on Kosovo i Metohija (proof of who the Holy province really belongs to)
You glorify rape. You are one sick individual. No matter, thankfully not all Serbs are 14 year old girls i.e. Serbs of Mitrovica.
“The platform is the last act, I have been writing it for years."
Seriously dude? Either you're a horrible liar, or a total dumba$$. Anyone in these forums could come up with this BS you call a platform in less than 2 hours. All you did is copy paste all your previous so called platforms and remove the stupid title " more than autonomy, less than independence". Ahh but the brand new concept here is as you put it " more than we can get, less than we can give". Genius, no wonder it took so many years.
I for one think that Kosovo should immediately join Albania and invite the Albanian army in to defend it borders. Then all this legal nightmare comes to an end.
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
XD, I hear what your saying but there is no need for Albania to send in thier troops! A little bit of that old weoponary that is set for destruction, will be more then sufficient for Kosova! We have more then enough manpower to take care of anything Serbia can send Kosova's way! Why back in 1997-1999 the kosovars only had ak-47s and some old RPGs, and we were still able to whoop some of those Serbian platoons a...! Just have some stockpiles, on the border ready for us, and then let Serbia make that fatal move, of aggression against Kosova again! You'll witness something no one ever thought possible! CNN, will be broadcasting Kosovar divisions at Belgrade's doorsteps! Serbia does however process a very formidable capability! If Kosova can manage to aqurie a 30-50% capability, to match that of Serbia's Heavy weaponry? I give you my word! Serbia will come down like a house of cards! We know who these Serbs are!
The only thing Serbia cannot do is physically liberate Kosovo i Metohija from occupation at this very moment.
(Ari Gold, 26 December 2012 18:51)
Why not ? As it's been proved over and over again in these forums Albanians are no match for the heroic Serbs. In addition, the CE of the B92 forums sj has already shown that US, NATO, EU or any other Serbia's enemy are all p... and wind. So, why can't Serbia liberate Kosovo ?! Is it because Serbia's traitorous government is unwilling to do so ?
I for one think that Kosovo should immediately join Albania and invite the Albanian army in to defend it borders. Then all this legal nightmare comes to an end.
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
XD, I hear what your saying but there is no need for Albania to send in thier troops! A little bit of that old weoponary that is set for destruction, will be more then sufficient for Kosova! We have more then enough manpower to take care of anything Serbia can send Kosova's way! Why back in 1997-1999 the kosovars only had ak-47s and some old RPGs, and we were still able to whoop some of those Serbian platoons a...! Just have some stockpiles, on the border ready for us, and then let Serbia make that fatal move, of aggression against Kosova again! You'll witness something no one ever thought possible! CNN, will be broadcasting Kosovar divisions at Belgrade's doorsteps! Serbia does however process a very formidable capability! If Kosova can manage to aqurie a 30-50% capability, to match that of Serbia's Heavy weaponry? I give you my word! Serbia will come down like a house of cards! We know who these Serbs are!
(Rocky, 26 December 2012 17:49)
I hope y'all traded your Nikes for some cleated shoes. Although Albania might be close, it's all uphill and slippery in the winter. Here is a link to some war-drum-like-music to pump you up and ruffle your feathers before Serbia comes down like a house of cards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZKPiZl3wZs
The ones who are blocking Kosovo becoming a normal state are the corrupt criminals and election fakers in the Kosovo government who only care for the wealth and business of their own family and clan members instead of trying to create a European, democratic state for the benefit of the ordinary people living there.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 December 2012 15:49)
I am in agreement with you a 100% but Serbia isnt helping either.
The only thing Serbia cannot do is physically liberate Kosovo i Metohija from occupation at this very moment. But diplomatically yes it in fact can do much. If Serbia's position is irrelevant then explain to me the meaning behind Merkel and Clinton's visits to Belgrade, explain to me these negotiations that both the EU and USA see as important and vital to the region, explain all the conditions and arm twisting if Serbia really doesn't matter.
Face it, for the occupation to have long term legitimacy, the occupiers MUST get the Serbian governments full and permanent support because otherwise it can be legally challenged and therefore have weak legs to stand on.
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
Albanian Army cannot move before late spring because in early spring the goats and donkeys have their little ones and you must give animals time to recuperate before riding them into battle.
You nightmare will continue and no one will lift a finger to change it.
"President describes Kosovo platform as realistic"
Nikolic reality does not necessarily refer to the real world. In fact, I never read something more afar from reality than then this "platform" and he himself admits that he his clueless what comes next. More likely is a public humiliation for him and an end of his presidency and that government. With those results in economy it would be anyway overdue. The people is tired of the Kosovization of policy. They need a future and not dreams of a lost past.
(Commentator, 26 December 2012 10:37)
It's unrealistic and in fact delusional to say something exists when in fact it does not exist. Kosovo as an independent state does not exist. If it existed, everyone would agree it existed. Nobody disagrees, for instance, to the existence of Albania. Thus, for you to say that Kosovo exists when it doesn't exist is pure delusion. Yet, you criticize the president???
"I will sooner withdraw from the negotiations than take part in something that is not good for Serbia," President Tomislav Nikolić has said.
You are the President of Serbia and you have the power to put an end to these negotiations and call elections because Prime minister Dhaciq did not achieve his election result off campaigning to legitimize the occupation of Kosovo i Metohija. If he is so confident in his policies then he and the Socialists can invite Thaci to a pre-election rally and honestly tell the people of Serbia what his positions are.
The reality is accepting these ridiculous conditions and 'negotiations' will not benefit anyone in Serbia that isn't already happily fed. EU candidacy means absolutely nothing, will not result into more jobs or better living standards. Ending these negotiations can and will only hurt the occupational administration-both Albanian and Western. Any important decision regarding Kosovo i Metohija since the end of the war needed to and has received the full support of the state of Serbia, as this was the only way it could have ever been considered legal, because Kosovo i Metohija is Serbia unless Serbia says so.
"President describes Kosovo platform as realistic"
Nikolic reality does not necessarily refer to the real world. In fact, I never read something more afar from reality than then this "platform" and he himself admits that he his clueless what comes next. More likely is a public humiliation for him and an end of his presidency and that government. With those results in economy it would be anyway overdue. The people is tired of the Kosovization of policy. They need a future and not dreams of a lost past.
Yet, you criticize the president???
(Daniel, 26 December 2012 12:39)
Without hesitation. Delusional is indeed a very proper description of his proposal. Nobody outside Serbia takes it serious and even the comments inside Serbia speak volumes. In fact, some might wonder what was the real purpose of this all and indeed some already pointed it out here. Nikolic sees it as a victory that Albanians already were making clear that they would call of the negotiations when that platform comes into discussion. What exactly is the success in this? I thought it is about finding a solution?
Nikolic just gave exactly what many already think. That Freudian slip is a dead-give-away what he really had in mind with it and that it is only a hollow provocation. As such it will find it proper end on the garbage of human history and he should be quite thankful if his presidency will not share the same fate. In a certain way he was still successful. Serbia is economically a totally broken country. Highest inflation rate in Europe, 170 000 jobs destroyed this year only and sky rocketing debts. And yet, the major talk is Kosovo.
"There is something that can no longer be executed, and that is allowing Kosovo to one day be independent. It seems to me that plenty has been done in a fog to recognize Kosovo and Metohija.
Tomislav, someone should have first awakend you from your deep sleep, prior to you ascending to the position of president! Serbia, has already had plenty of dreamers for the past 25 years! And it has cost the Serb people enormously! However, one positive note here, for the vast majority in the Balkans that would like to see Serbia continue its sinking deeper into the abyss, this policy by Tomo, is godsend! What more can one ask for?
"Any important decision regarding Kosovo i Metohija since the end of the war needed to and has received the full support of the state of Serbia, as this was the only way it could have ever been considered legal, because Kosovo i Metohija is Serbia unless Serbia says so".
Hold your horses body. Serbia in no shape to do anything at all when it comes to Kosovo. Serbia can not defend Kosovo when it doesnt have a single boot on the ground. The only reason Kosovo is not yet a full member of UN is because of threat of Russian veto.
Remember at some point Kosovo is going to have to decide should it continue to remain a paralyzed state or should it join Albania. I guess if you are Kosovar you know the obivous choice. It is a shame that Serbia is trying to block the path of the people of Kosovo. Serbia will not succeed no matter how hard it tries. I for one think that Kosovo should immediately join Albania and invite the Albanian army in to defend it borders. Then all this legal nightmare comes to an end.
"It is a shame that Serbia is trying to block the path of the people of Kosovo. Serbia will not succeed no matter how hard it tries. "
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
The ones who are blocking Kosovo becoming a normal state are the corrupt criminals and election fakers in the Kosovo government who only care for the wealth and business of their own family and clan members instead of trying to create a European, democratic state for the benefit of the ordinary people living there.
I give you my word! Serbia will come down like a house of cards! We know who these Serbs are!
(Rocky, 26 December 2012 17:49)
Well thanks for your word! I will give you my organs if you are right :p
But Serbia will fall like a house of cards? Can you please show me one conflict in the Balkans in which the Albanians went at it alone and came out on top? Presevo? Macedonia? Mitrovica in 2011? These were all defeats without Western help, and embarrassing ones.
Mitrovica especially, you had Serbs who were not even backed by their own state and even they, some local Serbs defeated your ROSU terrorist unit which resulted into a sad retreat back to the drug induced stronghold of Pristina.
... Oh yea we all know your rebuttal to that. You compare the Serbian peoples heroic victory over the occupying terrorists to the March 2004 Islamist pogroms where Albanian men raped 14 year old Serbian girls and burned down the oldest buildings standing on Kosovo i Metohija (proof of who the Holy province really belongs to)
You glorify rape. You are one sick individual. No matter, thankfully not all Serbs are 14 year old girls i.e. Serbs of Mitrovica.
I for one think that Kosovo should immediately join Albania and invite the Albanian army in to defend it borders. Then all this legal nightmare comes to an end.
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
XD, I hear what your saying but there is no need for Albania to send in thier troops! A little bit of that old weoponary that is set for destruction, will be more then sufficient for Kosova! We have more then enough manpower to take care of anything Serbia can send Kosova's way! Why back in 1997-1999 the kosovars only had ak-47s and some old RPGs, and we were still able to whoop some of those Serbian platoons a...! Just have some stockpiles, on the border ready for us, and then let Serbia make that fatal move, of aggression against Kosova again! You'll witness something no one ever thought possible! CNN, will be broadcasting Kosovar divisions at Belgrade's doorsteps! Serbia does however process a very formidable capability! If Kosova can manage to aqurie a 30-50% capability, to match that of Serbia's Heavy weaponry? I give you my word! Serbia will come down like a house of cards! We know who these Serbs are!
The only thing Serbia cannot do is physically liberate Kosovo i Metohija from occupation at this very moment. But diplomatically yes it in fact can do much. If Serbia's position is irrelevant then explain to me the meaning behind Merkel and Clinton's visits to Belgrade, explain to me these negotiations that both the EU and USA see as important and vital to the region, explain all the conditions and arm twisting if Serbia really doesn't matter.
Face it, for the occupation to have long term legitimacy, the occupiers MUST get the Serbian governments full and permanent support because otherwise it can be legally challenged and therefore have weak legs to stand on.
I for one think that Kosovo should immediately join Albania and invite the Albanian army in to defend it borders. Then all this legal nightmare comes to an end.
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
XD, I hear what your saying but there is no need for Albania to send in thier troops! A little bit of that old weoponary that is set for destruction, will be more then sufficient for Kosova! We have more then enough manpower to take care of anything Serbia can send Kosova's way! Why back in 1997-1999 the kosovars only had ak-47s and some old RPGs, and we were still able to whoop some of those Serbian platoons a...! Just have some stockpiles, on the border ready for us, and then let Serbia make that fatal move, of aggression against Kosova again! You'll witness something no one ever thought possible! CNN, will be broadcasting Kosovar divisions at Belgrade's doorsteps! Serbia does however process a very formidable capability! If Kosova can manage to aqurie a 30-50% capability, to match that of Serbia's Heavy weaponry? I give you my word! Serbia will come down like a house of cards! We know who these Serbs are!
(Rocky, 26 December 2012 17:49)
I hope y'all traded your Nikes for some cleated shoes. Although Albania might be close, it's all uphill and slippery in the winter. Here is a link to some war-drum-like-music to pump you up and ruffle your feathers before Serbia comes down like a house of cards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZKPiZl3wZs
"Thus, for you to say that Kosovo exists when it doesn't exist is pure delusion. Yet"
(Daniel, 26 December 2012 12:39)
What is more delusional? To think that 'Kosovo is Serbia' or to think Kosovo is an 'independent state' like the 193 other states in the world? I don't know, but both positions haven't much in common with the real world.
It's unrealistic and in fact delusional to say something exists when in fact it does not exist. Kosovo as an independent state does not exist. If it existed, everyone would agree it existed. Nobody disagrees, for instance, to the existence of Albania. Thus, for you to say that Kosovo exists when it doesn't exist is pure delusion. Yet, you criticize the president???
(Daniel, 26 December 2012 12:39)
This is a very interesting approach that something exists only if everyone would agree it existed. Great... so, I, for one, don't agree that Serbia exists - so, based on your approach, Serbia indeed does not exist. Wow, it was so easy to wipe Serbia out of existence - where have you been my friend ?! We could have solved the Serbian issue long ago.
The current Serbian prime minister was member of that cabinet or Nikolic "forgot". Still the agreement could have been made void.
"There is something that can no longer be executed, and that is allowing Kosovo to one day be independent." Fortunately or unfortunately for Serbia will not be asked to be allow Kosovo independence. Being asked to recognize Kosovo independence is totally different thing. The second would contribute a lot to solve the historical wounds between Serbs and Albanians. If Serbia does not want...in Albanian we say "Kurre mos dac" which means basically "we will not be force you and the choice/consequences good or bad is yours"
and Nikolic's madness continues and continues....
"the platform's goal was to put an end to that "erosion" - for Serbia to open its eyes:
"We had our heads stuck in the sand, while Kosovo and Metohija was going away."
“The platform is the last act, I have been writing it for years."
"How long are we going to go on like this?"
"We would even have to change this platform next year."
"..the EU is facing a difficult challenge after the platform was presented."
He also thinks that the Serbian Prime Minister is an idiot...)))
“Dačić now has the duty to implement, he is not negotiating. There is no new topic here, this is about the implementation.
To help Nikolic in his "hard work with his platform" why not asking Serbian people in a referendum whether they want to have an EU prospect with Kosovo as independent
Some Serbs seem to think democracy is about having election until you get the desired result.
What a truly broken place
(Danilo, 26 December 2012 15:48)
You are the only one that is broken. LOL hows the weather in Zagreb these days, Ujko? We haven't heard from you in a long, long time!
When your socialists in Serbia ran for elections, they did not run on the policies they are currently carrying out. They ran a dishonest campaign and I did not hear mention of dialogue with Thaci during Dhaciq's campain not once. So of course elections should be called (but better wholesale, institutional changes before simple elections).
As I said the only person that is broken is you. You can see it just by the way you type how miserable of a person you've become. Probably so much so that you can't stand to wake up in the morning and even comment on b92 which is why you are a ghost (although my theory is you are 'Lenard' or one of these other hyenas).
The only thing Serbia cannot do is physically liberate Kosovo i Metohija from occupation at this very moment.
(Ari Gold, 26 December 2012 18:51)
Why not ? As it's been proved over and over again in these forums Albanians are no match for the heroic Serbs. In addition, the CE of the B92 forums sj has already shown that US, NATO, EU or any other Serbia's enemy are all p... and wind. So, why can't Serbia liberate Kosovo ?! Is it because Serbia's traitorous government is unwilling to do so ?
The ones who are blocking Kosovo becoming a normal state are the corrupt criminals and election fakers in the Kosovo government who only care for the wealth and business of their own family and clan members instead of trying to create a European, democratic state for the benefit of the ordinary people living there.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 December 2012 15:49)
I am in agreement with you a 100% but Serbia isnt helping either.
“The platform is the last act, I have been writing it for years."
Seriously dude? Either you're a horrible liar, or a total dumba$$. Anyone in these forums could come up with this BS you call a platform in less than 2 hours. All you did is copy paste all your previous so called platforms and remove the stupid title " more than autonomy, less than independence". Ahh but the brand new concept here is as you put it " more than we can get, less than we can give". Genius, no wonder it took so many years.
(XD, 26 December 2012 15:11)
Albanian Army cannot move before late spring because in early spring the goats and donkeys have their little ones and you must give animals time to recuperate before riding them into battle.
You nightmare will continue and no one will lift a finger to change it.
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