LDP leader says president made “cardinal mistake”

This Cedomir clearly seems like he has common sense. He understands what needs to be done In-order to get Serbia moving in the right direction! It is very likely that Cedomir will be Serbia's next leader, either by a coup in a short period, or definatly by the next general Serbian elections... Good luck Cedomir, for the benefit of Serbia! She indeed needs real positive change!

More hot air from a useless wind bag!

"....looking for an alibi....". Spot on!

This Cedomir clearly seems like he has common sense. He understands what needs to be done In-order to get Serbia moving in the right direction! It is very likely that Cedomir will be Serbia's next leader, either by a coup in a short period, or definatly by the next general Serbian elections... Good luck Cedomir, for the benefit of Serbia! She indeed needs real positive change!
(Rocky, 14 October 2012 13:06)

You lot can have him, his Party and their neo-liberal crony capitalist ideas.

From what I read, Nikolic ain't that desperate for the EU the way Tadic was .... and the alibi NOT to join the EU might well have been what he was looking for ....
(lowe, 14 October 2012 14:56)

excellent news for Kosovo... Hopefully (for Kosovo) Serbia never joins the EU

"....looking for an alibi....". Spot on!
(EA, 14 October 2012 13:10) :

Ironically methinks you are right, though probably not in the way that you intended. From what I read, Nikolic ain't that desperate for the EU the way Tadic was .... and the alibi NOT to join the EU might well have been what he was looking for ....

"This is a cardinal mistake because it is based on the wrong idea that the Kosovo issue can be solved by interpreting things differently..."

He is spot on CORRECT, ever since the Kosovo-Serbia dialogue begun Belgrade has been playing this cat and mouse game of interpretation.

Sincerely,

"This Cedomir clearly seems like he has common sense. He understands what needs to be done In-order to get Serbia moving in the right direction! It is very likely that Cedomir will be Serbia's next leader, either by a coup in a short period, or definatly by the next general Serbian elections... Good luck Cedomir, for the benefit of Serbia! She indeed needs real positive change!
(Rocky, 14 October 2012 13:06) "

"Very likely" that this guy will be Serbia's next leader you say? And "definatly by the next general Serbian elections" you claim.

Of course this is what YOU would wish. But if Cedomir's results in the last election were anything to go by, I wouldn't hold my breath for this to happen as you will suffocate.

I know that the Serbian government tells EU officials what the latter should love to hear when they meet (ie. that Serbia wants to join the EU). But given the deterioriating financial situation inside the EU itself, and that Nikolic himself has been commenting recently that Serbia is no longer (or should no longer be) rushing towards the EU, surely his message cannot be missed to even the most dense in Brussels -- that he doesn't have the hots for the EU the way his grovelling predecessor did.

http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/imported/enthusiasm-for-eu-membership-cools-among-candidate-countries/75284.aspx

Ooops! Realized that the following sentence in my post directed at Rocky needed a an obvious correction which I have added in CAPTIALS.

"Of course this is what YOU would wish. But if Cedomir's results in the last election were anything to go by, I wouldn't hold my breath for this to happen IF I WERE YOU as you will suffocate."

Sorry, English ain't my mother tongue. Thanks.

"excellent news for Kosovo... Hopefully (for Kosovo) Serbia never joins the EU
(icj1, 14 October 2012 18:59)"

And with that "Kosova" can forget about joining too -- remember what the EU has been saying about not admitting new members with unresolved border issues because they don't want another Cyprus?

The duty of the President of Serbia is to demand changes of the formulations which are against interest of Serbia. That's no mistake.But Jovanovic will never be able to understand this.

Hey ldp guy.. kosovo je srbija chit chat helps put food on the table. Lol

The damage has been done and it will take an other election to make Serbia solvent again. In the mean time nothing will change except maybe the reversal of visa free travel for Serbs. The Kosovo issue will remain in limbo and the economy will continue to suffer.

The poor man looks like he could benefit from a razor, shaving cream, soap and water. Maybe more leafy greens and less worry about what the grown ups are talking about.

"And with that "Kosova" can forget about joining too -- remember what the EU has been saying about not admitting new members with unresolved border issues because they don't want another Cyprus?
(lowe, 15 October 2012 03:34) "

If Kosovo gets to the point that it is slated to join before Serbia, then it will most likely be because Serbia has decided not to join, in which case, the EU won't care that much - it's internal border disputes that worry it. Croatia's border problem with a non-candidate Serbia and Estonia's undefined stretch of border with non-potential-candidate Russia didn't cause any problems in their applications, after all.

If Kosovo gets to the point that it is slated to join before Serbia, then it will most likely be because Serbia has decided not to join, in which case, the EU won't care that much - it's internal border disputes that worry it. Croatia's border problem with a non-candidate Serbia and Estonia's undefined stretch of border with non-potential-candidate Russia didn't cause any problems in their applications, after all.
(Amer, 15 October 2012 11:26)

Still Romania in order to become EU member had to refuse any claim for non-candidate Moldova.

“If Kosovo gets to the point that it is slated to join before Serbia, then it will most likely be because Serbia has decided not to join, in which case, the EU won't care that much - it's internal border disputes that worry it. Croatia's border problem with a non-candidate Serbia and Estonia's undefined stretch of border with non-potential-candidate Russia didn't cause any problems in their applications, after all.
(Amer, 15 October 2012 11:26)”

Firstly, there are 5 EU members who have not recognized “Kosova” and I really doubt that they see its borders as “external”.

Moreover, and far more importantly, the dispute that we are talking here is Serbia’s claim over all of Kosovo as her province and not just over some little “stretch of border” as you naively put it. Russia may have a border dispute with Estonia but Russia does not dispute Estonia as a sovereign state. If Russia had claimed Estonia as her territory, I doubt the EU would so readily admit the Estonians.

My bet would be that Pristina can realistically hope to join the EU only after it has resolved its dispute with Serbia which is over its STATUS rather than over a mere "undefined stretch of border".

"Sure, it may be a long shot for "Kosova"... but with Serbia in the EU, it is no shot at all
(icj1, 21 October 2012 03:12)"

on the contrary, methinks with Serbia outside the EU and disputing "Kosova"'s right to statehood, the EU would not admit "Kosova" period. Your "long shot" scenario for "Kosova" would then also translate to "no shot" from a practical point of view.

"excellent news for Kosovo... Hopefully (for Kosovo) Serbia never joins the EU
(icj1, 14 October 2012 18:59)"

And with that "Kosova" can forget about joining too -- remember what the EU has been saying about not admitting new members with unresolved border issues because they don't want another Cyprus?
(lowe, 15 October 2012 03:34)

Sure, it may be a long shot for "Kosova"... but with Serbia in the EU, it is no shot at all

More hot air from a useless wind bag!

This Cedomir clearly seems like he has common sense. He understands what needs to be done In-order to get Serbia moving in the right direction! It is very likely that Cedomir will be Serbia's next leader, either by a coup in a short period, or definatly by the next general Serbian elections... Good luck Cedomir, for the benefit of Serbia! She indeed needs real positive change!

This Cedomir clearly seems like he has common sense. He understands what needs to be done In-order to get Serbia moving in the right direction! It is very likely that Cedomir will be Serbia's next leader, either by a coup in a short period, or definatly by the next general Serbian elections... Good luck Cedomir, for the benefit of Serbia! She indeed needs real positive change!
(Rocky, 14 October 2012 13:06)

You lot can have him, his Party and their neo-liberal crony capitalist ideas.

"....looking for an alibi....". Spot on!

"This Cedomir clearly seems like he has common sense. He understands what needs to be done In-order to get Serbia moving in the right direction! It is very likely that Cedomir will be Serbia's next leader, either by a coup in a short period, or definatly by the next general Serbian elections... Good luck Cedomir, for the benefit of Serbia! She indeed needs real positive change!
(Rocky, 14 October 2012 13:06) "

"Very likely" that this guy will be Serbia's next leader you say? And "definatly by the next general Serbian elections" you claim.

Of course this is what YOU would wish. But if Cedomir's results in the last election were anything to go by, I wouldn't hold my breath for this to happen as you will suffocate.

I know that the Serbian government tells EU officials what the latter should love to hear when they meet (ie. that Serbia wants to join the EU). But given the deterioriating financial situation inside the EU itself, and that Nikolic himself has been commenting recently that Serbia is no longer (or should no longer be) rushing towards the EU, surely his message cannot be missed to even the most dense in Brussels -- that he doesn't have the hots for the EU the way his grovelling predecessor did.

http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/imported/enthusiasm-for-eu-membership-cools-among-candidate-countries/75284.aspx

"....looking for an alibi....". Spot on!
(EA, 14 October 2012 13:10) :

Ironically methinks you are right, though probably not in the way that you intended. From what I read, Nikolic ain't that desperate for the EU the way Tadic was .... and the alibi NOT to join the EU might well have been what he was looking for ....

Ooops! Realized that the following sentence in my post directed at Rocky needed a an obvious correction which I have added in CAPTIALS.

"Of course this is what YOU would wish. But if Cedomir's results in the last election were anything to go by, I wouldn't hold my breath for this to happen IF I WERE YOU as you will suffocate."

Sorry, English ain't my mother tongue. Thanks.

From what I read, Nikolic ain't that desperate for the EU the way Tadic was .... and the alibi NOT to join the EU might well have been what he was looking for ....
(lowe, 14 October 2012 14:56)

excellent news for Kosovo... Hopefully (for Kosovo) Serbia never joins the EU

The duty of the President of Serbia is to demand changes of the formulations which are against interest of Serbia. That's no mistake.But Jovanovic will never be able to understand this.

"This is a cardinal mistake because it is based on the wrong idea that the Kosovo issue can be solved by interpreting things differently..."

He is spot on CORRECT, ever since the Kosovo-Serbia dialogue begun Belgrade has been playing this cat and mouse game of interpretation.

Sincerely,

The poor man looks like he could benefit from a razor, shaving cream, soap and water. Maybe more leafy greens and less worry about what the grown ups are talking about.

"excellent news for Kosovo... Hopefully (for Kosovo) Serbia never joins the EU
(icj1, 14 October 2012 18:59)"

And with that "Kosova" can forget about joining too -- remember what the EU has been saying about not admitting new members with unresolved border issues because they don't want another Cyprus?

“If Kosovo gets to the point that it is slated to join before Serbia, then it will most likely be because Serbia has decided not to join, in which case, the EU won't care that much - it's internal border disputes that worry it. Croatia's border problem with a non-candidate Serbia and Estonia's undefined stretch of border with non-potential-candidate Russia didn't cause any problems in their applications, after all.
(Amer, 15 October 2012 11:26)”

Firstly, there are 5 EU members who have not recognized “Kosova” and I really doubt that they see its borders as “external”.

Moreover, and far more importantly, the dispute that we are talking here is Serbia’s claim over all of Kosovo as her province and not just over some little “stretch of border” as you naively put it. Russia may have a border dispute with Estonia but Russia does not dispute Estonia as a sovereign state. If Russia had claimed Estonia as her territory, I doubt the EU would so readily admit the Estonians.

My bet would be that Pristina can realistically hope to join the EU only after it has resolved its dispute with Serbia which is over its STATUS rather than over a mere "undefined stretch of border".

Hey ldp guy.. kosovo je srbija chit chat helps put food on the table. Lol

"And with that "Kosova" can forget about joining too -- remember what the EU has been saying about not admitting new members with unresolved border issues because they don't want another Cyprus?
(lowe, 15 October 2012 03:34) "

If Kosovo gets to the point that it is slated to join before Serbia, then it will most likely be because Serbia has decided not to join, in which case, the EU won't care that much - it's internal border disputes that worry it. Croatia's border problem with a non-candidate Serbia and Estonia's undefined stretch of border with non-potential-candidate Russia didn't cause any problems in their applications, after all.

If Kosovo gets to the point that it is slated to join before Serbia, then it will most likely be because Serbia has decided not to join, in which case, the EU won't care that much - it's internal border disputes that worry it. Croatia's border problem with a non-candidate Serbia and Estonia's undefined stretch of border with non-potential-candidate Russia didn't cause any problems in their applications, after all.
(Amer, 15 October 2012 11:26)

Still Romania in order to become EU member had to refuse any claim for non-candidate Moldova.

"excellent news for Kosovo... Hopefully (for Kosovo) Serbia never joins the EU
(icj1, 14 October 2012 18:59)"

And with that "Kosova" can forget about joining too -- remember what the EU has been saying about not admitting new members with unresolved border issues because they don't want another Cyprus?
(lowe, 15 October 2012 03:34)

Sure, it may be a long shot for "Kosova"... but with Serbia in the EU, it is no shot at all

The damage has been done and it will take an other election to make Serbia solvent again. In the mean time nothing will change except maybe the reversal of visa free travel for Serbs. The Kosovo issue will remain in limbo and the economy will continue to suffer.

"Sure, it may be a long shot for "Kosova"... but with Serbia in the EU, it is no shot at all
(icj1, 21 October 2012 03:12)"

on the contrary, methinks with Serbia outside the EU and disputing "Kosova"'s right to statehood, the EU would not admit "Kosova" period. Your "long shot" scenario for "Kosova" would then also translate to "no shot" from a practical point of view.