French president plans new genocide law

Interesting that America considers a couple of thousand deaths in Srebrenica to be genocide but won't consider the same for the over 1.000.000 armenians killed by muslim turks. These are the same turks that now claim to have a country called Bosnia.
We live in a twisted world. To me Iran and Northkorea is no threat. They have not invaded any other country are not dictating to anyone how to live their lives. However, this way of american thinking is the greatest threat to world stability. One rule for one part of the world and other rules for other parts. They should take their McDonald way of thinking and keep it for themselves.

Do not forget about the Judeo bolchevics that killed over 60 million innocent Christians in more recent times with more hard evidence as the Holodomor. After all egalite fraternite liberte from the Frer Rothchild or FR of today right?!? Or the Napoleon genocides of his own 16 million French youth.


For futher references please read the great Winston Churchill.

Vive La France,march on.Tres Bon!

Tadic

I personally dislike the Turks and hate their denial politics. But it sounds very strange for me when somebody is forbidding you to express your opinion. The Holocaust kind restrictions coming from the heart of “democracy” are shocking. They will imprison you if only you suppose that less than 6 millions Jews has been assassinated. In Turkey they will imprison you if you mention the genocide and in France and some other states if only you doubt it. So best if the tourists’ guide books include the things you cannot say in one or another NATO state. In Georgia they will imprison you if only you combine two words SOUTH OSSETIA. It’s a strange world we are living in. Yes Turks are responsible of the massacre but there are things nobody is talking about.

Kurds were the most severe to kill the Armenians and it was them who seized most of the lands. But even ethnical Turks keep silence because according to the constitution there are no nations in Turkey and all of them are considered to be Turks. So it’s like the Katyn massacre when 22 000 of Polish officers were killed in 7 Soviet camps. The Poles and EU make Russia to be responsible though 6 out 7 camps were located in the Ukraine and Byelorussia. Another question is why the Turks killed only the Armenians ? The answer is because the Armenians has always supported Russia which was an Antanta member. So the massacre was a direct sequence of the WW1 which was launched by the Germans. So not only the Turks are guilty.

I do not TOTALLY agree with all comments here so far. I for example am not sorry for the polish, considering that they were extremely repressive on the orthodox populations in the 1930s. But that's beyond the question at hand I guess, a discussion for another day. So there's more to this discussion and it can go on and on and on. :P

I in general think that this is a good initiative. I also think that it would be nice for there to be some such law in Serbia.

Nice

… Judeo bolchevics that killed over 60 million innocent Christians …

Be careful with the figures and the facts ! Yes the first bolshevics were 90% of Jewish origin but later Stalin improved the Situation. What you call golodomor killed several millions all over USSR. It was a sequence of climate , collectivization , the civil war and the WW1 altogether. Not all of those processes were initiated by the Bolshevics. So if you are that simple minded please leave your dogmas for your own use. At least nobody was killed deliberately.

B92

Poor Tadic has nothing to do with my previous comment. It was a misprint and I am sorry.

People should be able to discuss these topics if they wish without fear of punishment. This is a bad move just on principle, whether you think the Armenian Genocide qualifies or not.

Paul, you conveniently forget that Iraq attacked Iran and was backed and armed by the West. Iran has never had any claim to any significant Iraqi territory and has a very, very long history of not invading and destroying other countries. Neither did Iran respond to Iraqi chemical attacks in like.

"People should be able to discuss these topics if they wish without fear of punishment. This is a bad move just on principle, whether you think the Armenian Genocide qualifies or not."
(Anonymoose, 9 July 2012 10:13)

It's not about if it qualifies genocide or not. It's about the denial, the downplaying of the cruelties that happened - may it be Armenians in Turkey or Bosniaks in Srebrenica. Just like the Turks tell us 'the Armenians were only expelled and died on their trip', some Serbs want to tell us that 'only muslim fighters were killed'. And it's not about if 6 millions or 'only' 3 millions were killed in the NAZI holocaust and concentration camps, but the complete denial that it happened (like the glorious Iranian president tries to tell us).

MikeC, your grasp of history is pretty grim. North and South Korea are countries that are the result of a frozen civil war. It was a conflict supported by the US in the South and China in the North and shed a lot of blood.

Iran has long had ambitions on Iraq. There was a huge war between Iraq and Iran in which Iran conducted itself like the weird blood soaked monster we see today. It sent its own children into the battlefield as mine detectors. It used poison gas in the battle field.

Do not forget about the Judeo bolchevics that killed over 60 million innocent Christians in more recent times with more hard evidence as the Holodomor. After all egalite fraternite liberte from the Frer Rothchild or FR of today right?!? Or the Napoleon genocides of his own 16 million French youth.


For futher references please read the great Winston Churchill.

Interesting that America considers a couple of thousand deaths in Srebrenica to be genocide but won't consider the same for the over 1.000.000 armenians killed by muslim turks. These are the same turks that now claim to have a country called Bosnia.
We live in a twisted world. To me Iran and Northkorea is no threat. They have not invaded any other country are not dictating to anyone how to live their lives. However, this way of american thinking is the greatest threat to world stability. One rule for one part of the world and other rules for other parts. They should take their McDonald way of thinking and keep it for themselves.

Nice

… Judeo bolchevics that killed over 60 million innocent Christians …

Be careful with the figures and the facts ! Yes the first bolshevics were 90% of Jewish origin but later Stalin improved the Situation. What you call golodomor killed several millions all over USSR. It was a sequence of climate , collectivization , the civil war and the WW1 altogether. Not all of those processes were initiated by the Bolshevics. So if you are that simple minded please leave your dogmas for your own use. At least nobody was killed deliberately.

Vive La France,march on.Tres Bon!

Tadic

I personally dislike the Turks and hate their denial politics. But it sounds very strange for me when somebody is forbidding you to express your opinion. The Holocaust kind restrictions coming from the heart of “democracy” are shocking. They will imprison you if only you suppose that less than 6 millions Jews has been assassinated. In Turkey they will imprison you if you mention the genocide and in France and some other states if only you doubt it. So best if the tourists’ guide books include the things you cannot say in one or another NATO state. In Georgia they will imprison you if only you combine two words SOUTH OSSETIA. It’s a strange world we are living in. Yes Turks are responsible of the massacre but there are things nobody is talking about.

Kurds were the most severe to kill the Armenians and it was them who seized most of the lands. But even ethnical Turks keep silence because according to the constitution there are no nations in Turkey and all of them are considered to be Turks. So it’s like the Katyn massacre when 22 000 of Polish officers were killed in 7 Soviet camps. The Poles and EU make Russia to be responsible though 6 out 7 camps were located in the Ukraine and Byelorussia. Another question is why the Turks killed only the Armenians ? The answer is because the Armenians has always supported Russia which was an Antanta member. So the massacre was a direct sequence of the WW1 which was launched by the Germans. So not only the Turks are guilty.

People should be able to discuss these topics if they wish without fear of punishment. This is a bad move just on principle, whether you think the Armenian Genocide qualifies or not.

I do not TOTALLY agree with all comments here so far. I for example am not sorry for the polish, considering that they were extremely repressive on the orthodox populations in the 1930s. But that's beyond the question at hand I guess, a discussion for another day. So there's more to this discussion and it can go on and on and on. :P

I in general think that this is a good initiative. I also think that it would be nice for there to be some such law in Serbia.

B92

Poor Tadic has nothing to do with my previous comment. It was a misprint and I am sorry.

"People should be able to discuss these topics if they wish without fear of punishment. This is a bad move just on principle, whether you think the Armenian Genocide qualifies or not."
(Anonymoose, 9 July 2012 10:13)

It's not about if it qualifies genocide or not. It's about the denial, the downplaying of the cruelties that happened - may it be Armenians in Turkey or Bosniaks in Srebrenica. Just like the Turks tell us 'the Armenians were only expelled and died on their trip', some Serbs want to tell us that 'only muslim fighters were killed'. And it's not about if 6 millions or 'only' 3 millions were killed in the NAZI holocaust and concentration camps, but the complete denial that it happened (like the glorious Iranian president tries to tell us).

MikeC, your grasp of history is pretty grim. North and South Korea are countries that are the result of a frozen civil war. It was a conflict supported by the US in the South and China in the North and shed a lot of blood.

Iran has long had ambitions on Iraq. There was a huge war between Iraq and Iran in which Iran conducted itself like the weird blood soaked monster we see today. It sent its own children into the battlefield as mine detectors. It used poison gas in the battle field.

Paul, you conveniently forget that Iraq attacked Iran and was backed and armed by the West. Iran has never had any claim to any significant Iraqi territory and has a very, very long history of not invading and destroying other countries. Neither did Iran respond to Iraqi chemical attacks in like.