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Wednesday, 16.05.2012.

09:12

I offer reconciliation, perspective, Tadić says

Democratic Party (DS)-led coalition presidential candidate Boris Tadić urged voters Tuesday to give their support to him in the May 20 presidential runoff.

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Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

I made a general statement that covers some of the times and some of the People, concerning nitpickers, and I hoped that you would have read it correctly, and in the way it was intended to be conveyed.

We know that we can make generalized statements, however, such generalizations do not apply in every case, and we know that we can generalize and say that sometimes the guilty will think that it was a statement against them, but that to is a generalization, and so no definite inference can be deduced, unless it is accompanied by a confession, which can prove difficult with certain People.

I do not see things in terms of Left or Right, but rather I see things as being either good or bad, correct or incorrect, and foolish or wise, and so to me there is no Extreme Left, or Extreme Right, but only good or bad, correct or incorrect, and foolish or wise.

Another thing is that I look at the Message rather than the Messenger, and I think that it is the Policy that a Person is putting forward is what should be criticized or argued against, or debated, and not that the Person should be criticized.

It is the Opinion of Many People that having a political Balance in Serbia’s Political Landscape would greatly benefit Democracy in Serbia, and they are totally against Election Rigging and Fraud, and they are against Goons usurping the positions of Public Servants, and they are against Systemic Corruption, and this is why they will be Voting for Tomislav Nikolic for the next President of Serbia.

I hope that we can agree to disagree without becoming disagreeable, and I hope that we can start again with this Attitude, and I think that People should not Vote for Boris Tadic at this Election.

I would like to know your Opinion on One Conspiracy Theory that I believe is likely, and it says that America, the European Union, and Tadic and Company have a considerable advantage because they will ask the Invisible Devil to send the Invisible Demons at the Polling Booths, and just before the People Vote, the Invisible Demons will make them hear a Voice in their heads that only they can hear, and that is for them to vote for Tadic as the next President of Serbia.

bganon

pre 14 godina

JS so if you get it wrong, and somebody points it out its nitpicking. If you air some conspiracy ideas that turn out not to be true then you were joking.

No offense but you don't make an impression as somebody with a good sense of humour and if during an election you think its funny to mistakenly repeatedly accuse somebody of being a card carrying member of a political party, or a functionary - well there is no joke there, is there?

Anyway you are right to remind me of my saying that to be honest I don't think you are worth my time and regret not sticking to that. I'll just leave you to carry on airing your outlandish theories...

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

I do feel better knowing that you, “to be honest” claim that you do not work for the DS.

I do not see things in terms of Left or Right, but rather I see things as being either good or bad and foolish or wise, and so to me there is no Extreme Left, or Extreme Right, but only good or bad, foolish or wise.

For the record, “to be honest”, you claimed you cannot stand Jelena Trivan, and say that anybody with any sense would think the same, but Tadic likes her and yet by your own words Tadic lacks sense for this, and has made an error of judgement, but you will Vote for him.

People at this forum know your position, and some of them could be wondering why you will not just for the record “to be honest” deny that you are not a cars Carrying Member of the DS.

I was hoping that you had a sense of humour, and could understand that it would be funny if you were actually Boris Tadic or the Deputy Leader of the Democratic Party Jelena Trivan, or an employee of one them.

bganon

pre 14 godina

JS you are paranoid aren't you? Now you think I'm somebody working for DS! For the record I can't stand Trivan, just like anybody with any sense.

People at this forum know my position, and only people on the extreme right start on about these conspiracy theories, it seems to come with the territory...

So somebody who wants facts, not propaganda or conspiracy theories is a nitpicker? OK....

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

I know that you realize what we all know, and that is that it pays to Advertise, and that was what bothered you, but you will not Advertise that, because you probably benefit financially from the Tadic Regime.

My comment is good, and my Advice to Advertise and continue to Advertise wherever People are is good, and do it at the Polling places on Election Day, and you know who knows it too.

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

My Honest comment may have made some one worry enough to write try to muddy the waters, and I remember saying that I would never Vote for you, if you Campaigned on honest speech and trust.

I think Tadic’s rant is bordering on the paranoid, if you bothered to read the Article on what he said about Tomislav Nikolic

Tadic and Clique has been speaking a lot about how Nikolic supporters are going to trash ballot boxes, and if you read Tanjug, then that is what the Defence Minister slandered Nikolic with, but it could that Tadic and Clique may do something to blame Nikolic, and even you had to repeat the other day that only Morons do not know that Tadic and Clique are corrupt.

Mentioning Fox Mulder seems to suggest that you like reading comics, because they are an easy read, you know that if Tadic infiltrates, then it is by means of these he sends, and I will you be there pretending to be a Nikolic Voter.

I have found that on many occasions nitpickers are Hypocrites, and they nitpick because they have a Secret Agenda.

I must have been worth your time, because you know that I wrote a good comment, and now you are trying to discredit it as a rant, whereas it my opinions, and they are genuinely held opinion to which I am perfectly entitled.

I can never be right for you, because only Tadic can be right for you.

The fact that you wrote that you do not believe that I can possibly answer these questions with evidence and factually, seems to suggest Disgust

It is good that a person can write: “to be honest”, because it shows that they are educated, and such Educated People could one day Campaigned on honest speech and trust.

I suspect that you are a Card Carrying Member of the DS, and that is your right, and it would be funny if you were actually Boris Tadic or the Deputy Leader of the Democratic Party Jelena Trivan, or an employee of one them.

Did you know that on 23 February 2012, here on B 92, and “to be honest” Jelena Trivan said that Tadic and Clique must not be Arrogant, and I even wrote a comment (some would say rant) on that Article.

We know that Tadic has more Charisma, and is mote of a Movie Star Type, but that is not what Serbia needs President, unless they also have ability and integrity.

The Voters could cope with genuine economic mistakes, but what do normal People think of Puppets, and I guess you need good degree of Arrogance to Deliberately lie to the Voters and Steal an Election, because the only way to prevent Arrogance With Tadic is to not vote for him, but to Vote for Tomislav Nikolic.

bganon

pre 14 godina

JS your rants are becoming less comprehensible by the day. Half of the things you write make some sense, but most of it is either factually inaccurate or bordering on paranoid.

I mean Tadic wants the join the EU because he is from Sarajevo. Really? That MUSLUM town you write, as if there were not Serbs and Croats who live there and buildings of historical significance there that either have nothing to do with religion or for example orthodox and catholic churches. I refute that claim of yours and reject your capital letter which seem to imply disgust.

Then you claim that Tadic wants to enlarge Islam in Europe? Why??? Does it look to you as if Tadic could become a Mufti and lead an Islamic revolution?

Tadic may infiltrate polling booths with those who pretend to be Nikolic voters??? What? Are these individuals shape shifting types that Fox Mulder used to encounter?

Apart from your far fetched theories you can't even get facts right? You can? Then please tell me how is it that you say that Tadic has been in power for a decade? In your universe do you use base 8, instead of base 10?

I don't believe you can possibly answer these questions with evidence and factually. And to be honest I'm not sure somebody as frankly, crazy as yourself is worth my time.

T

pre 14 godina

I am reading a lot of anti-Tadic sentiment here and a lot of pro-Nikolic/Milosevic.
Emmm, wasn't it Milosevic who destroyed this country, economically, socially and morally? I mean that during the 90's Serbia was practically a 'mafia state'.
Wasn't it Milosevic who sent Serb tanks to Kosovo in order to "liberate" it from the Albanians? Wasn't it exactly this particular act that prompted NATO to intervene and bomb Serbia in order to stop Milosevic from massacring civilians in Kosovo, and stop it they did.
Didn't these events lead to a popular uprising in Serbia, which eventually saw the end of the Milosevic' regime and have democracy restored?
So why then I still read so much nationalistically inspired propaganda? To me nationalism does not represent honour and pride, only hatred and intolerance.
Nationalism, wherever it surfaced, never did much good in the end. Give me one example where a nationalistic government has ever succeeded in bringing prosperity, security, peace and stability to its people, without causing conflict with its neighbouring countries or with part of its population. Nikolic, in my opinion is nothing more than an extreme right wing hothead who keeps flip flopping on his policies and changing his mind on where he stands. He has violent tendencies which he finds hard to control. He is in no position to bring any kind of good to Serbia. He is talking of changes but he doesn't say what he'll do better and how. it is easy to talk the talk but can he walk the walk, so to speak. I am not convinced.
I am not saying Tadic is perfect but at least you know where you stand with him and he has the respect of Europe, Russia, China and allies of Serbia, including potential investors.

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

Boris Tadic is Slandering Tomislav Nikolic by saying that Tomislav Nikolic is opposed to reconciliation with the Albanians.

The Albanian attitude is something that will not be mended just because Tadic is President or Nikolic is President, but only after they know that Independence is Strictly Forbidden under all circumstances, and only after this Reality sinks in, can the Albanians begin to grudgingly mend their behaviour, even though they will always want to steal Kosovo.

What are those clear perpectives that Taic speaks of, why is it only a few says before the Election, that he says anything, when he has had 10 years, and he has done nothing of importance, but he has wrecked the Economy.

In this election, Tadic wants to steal the Election, it just like he did with the Parliamentary Election, and if Tadic really wants to unite political ideas which can come together around what is good and useful for the people.

If that is what Tadic truly wants then he should say that a Wise People understand the Importance of Balance in the Political Landscape that that everyone should Vote Tomislav Nikolic as President, and not for Boris Gladna Godina Tadic.

The DS and the SPS already have the Parliament which is the main Power in Serbia, and Tadic speaking like the Megalomaniac that he is, seems to think that the Presidency is the Dictatorship, and that is how he had run Serbia, because we know that Germany and America like Dictators.

We only have to look at the installed Dictators of the Italian Prime Minister, and the Greek Prime Minister, and make No Mistake, The Fourth German Reich want a Dictator in every Continental European Country, because that is the only way a German Reich can succeed.

Dacic will be the next Mario Monti or the next Lucas Papademos, because Democracy is not Popular with that lot, and the proof is the Stolen Parliamentary Election, and the cover up by Partisan Political Stooges who occupy the positions of Public Servants who should do they jobs without Fear or Favour, who we have seen that they work for Tadic and Dacic and not for the People of Serbia.

Where to begin refuting the Lies and Slanders of this mean spirited Fourth Reich creation, and we know that Tadic and Dacic consistency and predictable with being Germany’s Puppets.

We are stuck with Dacic because the Parliamentary Election was stolen, and we may be stuck with Tadic, because the Presidential Elections will be rigged also, and this is why Tadic is talking like he is to make it appear that anyone other than the Gullible believe him,. Or those who are receiving Soro’s Money will Vote for him.

It is blatantly untrue to say that Tomislav Nikolic does not want to join the European Union, and that is a matter for the Parliament, and not the President, but Tomislav Nikolic has said that he will not give up Kosovo to join the European Union, if Germany says that it is a condition.

I would have thought that wanting to join the European Union so Desperately is because Tadic who is from the MUSLIM CITY of Sarajevo, and says that he is a Christian, wants to rush into the European Union, when the proper approach is to go slowly, and the reason is that Tadic wants to give up Kosovo, because he wants to enlarge Islam in Europe.

Tadic slandered and lied by saying that he urged them to find peace within themselves, because that is a prerequisite for peace in Serbia, to not threaten anyone or promote a policy of intimidation, because elections are a celebration of democracy and freedom and not of intimidation, noted Tadic, adding that as in the past, he would be ready to offer a hand of friendship after the second round, but Sarajevo Tadic is not Serbia’s friend and probably never was or will be.

I think that Tadic and Company know that People will go on buses and be at the Polling Booths, and that they will speak just a few things all days long repeatedly.

Those things that should be said are few and they are the following, and Nikolic Voters and say these things while they are lining up to Vote, but only in groups of two where it looks like People are just having a Friendly Conservation.

Dacic is the person who went to Washington to have breakfast and to eat with those who murdered his friend Slobodan Milosevic, and that says everything I need to know about Dacic and the SPS.

Other things are he term Boris Gladna Godina Tadic, and the Nikolic will lift the Rug of Corruption to show the Corrupt Self Serving nature of Tadic and the Previous Government.

Tadic does not want Nikolic to win, because the SPS will gain more Votes at the expense of the DS at the next Election if there is a SNS, SPS, and DSS Government, and because this Government which SPS Voters really want might come about, because otherwise Dacic along with Tadic will face Criminal Charges of Corruption.

Tadic may infiltrate the Polling Booths with those who pretend to be Nikolic Voters, but are really Tadic Voters, and the Parliamentary Elections were stolen, and Tadic is working on stealing the Presidential Elections.

Wise Voters will not allow Power to be Monopolized, because History Proves that Power Corrupts, and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely, and the safe thing is to Balance the Political Landscape.

The Political Parties are in competition with each other, and by having a Balance in the Political Landscape, it keeps both of them more Honest, and more eager to do their jobs better.

Keep it Simple, write them on a piece of paper, and these sayings along with a few other things that others may comment on and that the SNS may think of should be used on the buses and at the Polling Booths.

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

My Honest comment may have made some one worry enough to write try to muddy the waters, and I remember saying that I would never Vote for you, if you Campaigned on honest speech and trust.

I think Tadic’s rant is bordering on the paranoid, if you bothered to read the Article on what he said about Tomislav Nikolic

Tadic and Clique has been speaking a lot about how Nikolic supporters are going to trash ballot boxes, and if you read Tanjug, then that is what the Defence Minister slandered Nikolic with, but it could that Tadic and Clique may do something to blame Nikolic, and even you had to repeat the other day that only Morons do not know that Tadic and Clique are corrupt.

Mentioning Fox Mulder seems to suggest that you like reading comics, because they are an easy read, you know that if Tadic infiltrates, then it is by means of these he sends, and I will you be there pretending to be a Nikolic Voter.

I have found that on many occasions nitpickers are Hypocrites, and they nitpick because they have a Secret Agenda.

I must have been worth your time, because you know that I wrote a good comment, and now you are trying to discredit it as a rant, whereas it my opinions, and they are genuinely held opinion to which I am perfectly entitled.

I can never be right for you, because only Tadic can be right for you.

The fact that you wrote that you do not believe that I can possibly answer these questions with evidence and factually, seems to suggest Disgust

It is good that a person can write: “to be honest”, because it shows that they are educated, and such Educated People could one day Campaigned on honest speech and trust.

I suspect that you are a Card Carrying Member of the DS, and that is your right, and it would be funny if you were actually Boris Tadic or the Deputy Leader of the Democratic Party Jelena Trivan, or an employee of one them.

Did you know that on 23 February 2012, here on B 92, and “to be honest” Jelena Trivan said that Tadic and Clique must not be Arrogant, and I even wrote a comment (some would say rant) on that Article.

We know that Tadic has more Charisma, and is mote of a Movie Star Type, but that is not what Serbia needs President, unless they also have ability and integrity.

The Voters could cope with genuine economic mistakes, but what do normal People think of Puppets, and I guess you need good degree of Arrogance to Deliberately lie to the Voters and Steal an Election, because the only way to prevent Arrogance With Tadic is to not vote for him, but to Vote for Tomislav Nikolic.

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

Boris Tadic is Slandering Tomislav Nikolic by saying that Tomislav Nikolic is opposed to reconciliation with the Albanians.

The Albanian attitude is something that will not be mended just because Tadic is President or Nikolic is President, but only after they know that Independence is Strictly Forbidden under all circumstances, and only after this Reality sinks in, can the Albanians begin to grudgingly mend their behaviour, even though they will always want to steal Kosovo.

What are those clear perpectives that Taic speaks of, why is it only a few says before the Election, that he says anything, when he has had 10 years, and he has done nothing of importance, but he has wrecked the Economy.

In this election, Tadic wants to steal the Election, it just like he did with the Parliamentary Election, and if Tadic really wants to unite political ideas which can come together around what is good and useful for the people.

If that is what Tadic truly wants then he should say that a Wise People understand the Importance of Balance in the Political Landscape that that everyone should Vote Tomislav Nikolic as President, and not for Boris Gladna Godina Tadic.

The DS and the SPS already have the Parliament which is the main Power in Serbia, and Tadic speaking like the Megalomaniac that he is, seems to think that the Presidency is the Dictatorship, and that is how he had run Serbia, because we know that Germany and America like Dictators.

We only have to look at the installed Dictators of the Italian Prime Minister, and the Greek Prime Minister, and make No Mistake, The Fourth German Reich want a Dictator in every Continental European Country, because that is the only way a German Reich can succeed.

Dacic will be the next Mario Monti or the next Lucas Papademos, because Democracy is not Popular with that lot, and the proof is the Stolen Parliamentary Election, and the cover up by Partisan Political Stooges who occupy the positions of Public Servants who should do they jobs without Fear or Favour, who we have seen that they work for Tadic and Dacic and not for the People of Serbia.

Where to begin refuting the Lies and Slanders of this mean spirited Fourth Reich creation, and we know that Tadic and Dacic consistency and predictable with being Germany’s Puppets.

We are stuck with Dacic because the Parliamentary Election was stolen, and we may be stuck with Tadic, because the Presidential Elections will be rigged also, and this is why Tadic is talking like he is to make it appear that anyone other than the Gullible believe him,. Or those who are receiving Soro’s Money will Vote for him.

It is blatantly untrue to say that Tomislav Nikolic does not want to join the European Union, and that is a matter for the Parliament, and not the President, but Tomislav Nikolic has said that he will not give up Kosovo to join the European Union, if Germany says that it is a condition.

I would have thought that wanting to join the European Union so Desperately is because Tadic who is from the MUSLIM CITY of Sarajevo, and says that he is a Christian, wants to rush into the European Union, when the proper approach is to go slowly, and the reason is that Tadic wants to give up Kosovo, because he wants to enlarge Islam in Europe.

Tadic slandered and lied by saying that he urged them to find peace within themselves, because that is a prerequisite for peace in Serbia, to not threaten anyone or promote a policy of intimidation, because elections are a celebration of democracy and freedom and not of intimidation, noted Tadic, adding that as in the past, he would be ready to offer a hand of friendship after the second round, but Sarajevo Tadic is not Serbia’s friend and probably never was or will be.

I think that Tadic and Company know that People will go on buses and be at the Polling Booths, and that they will speak just a few things all days long repeatedly.

Those things that should be said are few and they are the following, and Nikolic Voters and say these things while they are lining up to Vote, but only in groups of two where it looks like People are just having a Friendly Conservation.

Dacic is the person who went to Washington to have breakfast and to eat with those who murdered his friend Slobodan Milosevic, and that says everything I need to know about Dacic and the SPS.

Other things are he term Boris Gladna Godina Tadic, and the Nikolic will lift the Rug of Corruption to show the Corrupt Self Serving nature of Tadic and the Previous Government.

Tadic does not want Nikolic to win, because the SPS will gain more Votes at the expense of the DS at the next Election if there is a SNS, SPS, and DSS Government, and because this Government which SPS Voters really want might come about, because otherwise Dacic along with Tadic will face Criminal Charges of Corruption.

Tadic may infiltrate the Polling Booths with those who pretend to be Nikolic Voters, but are really Tadic Voters, and the Parliamentary Elections were stolen, and Tadic is working on stealing the Presidential Elections.

Wise Voters will not allow Power to be Monopolized, because History Proves that Power Corrupts, and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely, and the safe thing is to Balance the Political Landscape.

The Political Parties are in competition with each other, and by having a Balance in the Political Landscape, it keeps both of them more Honest, and more eager to do their jobs better.

Keep it Simple, write them on a piece of paper, and these sayings along with a few other things that others may comment on and that the SNS may think of should be used on the buses and at the Polling Booths.

bganon

pre 14 godina

JS your rants are becoming less comprehensible by the day. Half of the things you write make some sense, but most of it is either factually inaccurate or bordering on paranoid.

I mean Tadic wants the join the EU because he is from Sarajevo. Really? That MUSLUM town you write, as if there were not Serbs and Croats who live there and buildings of historical significance there that either have nothing to do with religion or for example orthodox and catholic churches. I refute that claim of yours and reject your capital letter which seem to imply disgust.

Then you claim that Tadic wants to enlarge Islam in Europe? Why??? Does it look to you as if Tadic could become a Mufti and lead an Islamic revolution?

Tadic may infiltrate polling booths with those who pretend to be Nikolic voters??? What? Are these individuals shape shifting types that Fox Mulder used to encounter?

Apart from your far fetched theories you can't even get facts right? You can? Then please tell me how is it that you say that Tadic has been in power for a decade? In your universe do you use base 8, instead of base 10?

I don't believe you can possibly answer these questions with evidence and factually. And to be honest I'm not sure somebody as frankly, crazy as yourself is worth my time.

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

I know that you realize what we all know, and that is that it pays to Advertise, and that was what bothered you, but you will not Advertise that, because you probably benefit financially from the Tadic Regime.

My comment is good, and my Advice to Advertise and continue to Advertise wherever People are is good, and do it at the Polling places on Election Day, and you know who knows it too.

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

I do feel better knowing that you, “to be honest” claim that you do not work for the DS.

I do not see things in terms of Left or Right, but rather I see things as being either good or bad and foolish or wise, and so to me there is no Extreme Left, or Extreme Right, but only good or bad, foolish or wise.

For the record, “to be honest”, you claimed you cannot stand Jelena Trivan, and say that anybody with any sense would think the same, but Tadic likes her and yet by your own words Tadic lacks sense for this, and has made an error of judgement, but you will Vote for him.

People at this forum know your position, and some of them could be wondering why you will not just for the record “to be honest” deny that you are not a cars Carrying Member of the DS.

I was hoping that you had a sense of humour, and could understand that it would be funny if you were actually Boris Tadic or the Deputy Leader of the Democratic Party Jelena Trivan, or an employee of one them.

T

pre 14 godina

I am reading a lot of anti-Tadic sentiment here and a lot of pro-Nikolic/Milosevic.
Emmm, wasn't it Milosevic who destroyed this country, economically, socially and morally? I mean that during the 90's Serbia was practically a 'mafia state'.
Wasn't it Milosevic who sent Serb tanks to Kosovo in order to "liberate" it from the Albanians? Wasn't it exactly this particular act that prompted NATO to intervene and bomb Serbia in order to stop Milosevic from massacring civilians in Kosovo, and stop it they did.
Didn't these events lead to a popular uprising in Serbia, which eventually saw the end of the Milosevic' regime and have democracy restored?
So why then I still read so much nationalistically inspired propaganda? To me nationalism does not represent honour and pride, only hatred and intolerance.
Nationalism, wherever it surfaced, never did much good in the end. Give me one example where a nationalistic government has ever succeeded in bringing prosperity, security, peace and stability to its people, without causing conflict with its neighbouring countries or with part of its population. Nikolic, in my opinion is nothing more than an extreme right wing hothead who keeps flip flopping on his policies and changing his mind on where he stands. He has violent tendencies which he finds hard to control. He is in no position to bring any kind of good to Serbia. He is talking of changes but he doesn't say what he'll do better and how. it is easy to talk the talk but can he walk the walk, so to speak. I am not convinced.
I am not saying Tadic is perfect but at least you know where you stand with him and he has the respect of Europe, Russia, China and allies of Serbia, including potential investors.

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

I made a general statement that covers some of the times and some of the People, concerning nitpickers, and I hoped that you would have read it correctly, and in the way it was intended to be conveyed.

We know that we can make generalized statements, however, such generalizations do not apply in every case, and we know that we can generalize and say that sometimes the guilty will think that it was a statement against them, but that to is a generalization, and so no definite inference can be deduced, unless it is accompanied by a confession, which can prove difficult with certain People.

I do not see things in terms of Left or Right, but rather I see things as being either good or bad, correct or incorrect, and foolish or wise, and so to me there is no Extreme Left, or Extreme Right, but only good or bad, correct or incorrect, and foolish or wise.

Another thing is that I look at the Message rather than the Messenger, and I think that it is the Policy that a Person is putting forward is what should be criticized or argued against, or debated, and not that the Person should be criticized.

It is the Opinion of Many People that having a political Balance in Serbia’s Political Landscape would greatly benefit Democracy in Serbia, and they are totally against Election Rigging and Fraud, and they are against Goons usurping the positions of Public Servants, and they are against Systemic Corruption, and this is why they will be Voting for Tomislav Nikolic for the next President of Serbia.

I hope that we can agree to disagree without becoming disagreeable, and I hope that we can start again with this Attitude, and I think that People should not Vote for Boris Tadic at this Election.

I would like to know your Opinion on One Conspiracy Theory that I believe is likely, and it says that America, the European Union, and Tadic and Company have a considerable advantage because they will ask the Invisible Devil to send the Invisible Demons at the Polling Booths, and just before the People Vote, the Invisible Demons will make them hear a Voice in their heads that only they can hear, and that is for them to vote for Tadic as the next President of Serbia.

bganon

pre 14 godina

JS you are paranoid aren't you? Now you think I'm somebody working for DS! For the record I can't stand Trivan, just like anybody with any sense.

People at this forum know my position, and only people on the extreme right start on about these conspiracy theories, it seems to come with the territory...

So somebody who wants facts, not propaganda or conspiracy theories is a nitpicker? OK....

bganon

pre 14 godina

JS so if you get it wrong, and somebody points it out its nitpicking. If you air some conspiracy ideas that turn out not to be true then you were joking.

No offense but you don't make an impression as somebody with a good sense of humour and if during an election you think its funny to mistakenly repeatedly accuse somebody of being a card carrying member of a political party, or a functionary - well there is no joke there, is there?

Anyway you are right to remind me of my saying that to be honest I don't think you are worth my time and regret not sticking to that. I'll just leave you to carry on airing your outlandish theories...

T

pre 14 godina

I am reading a lot of anti-Tadic sentiment here and a lot of pro-Nikolic/Milosevic.
Emmm, wasn't it Milosevic who destroyed this country, economically, socially and morally? I mean that during the 90's Serbia was practically a 'mafia state'.
Wasn't it Milosevic who sent Serb tanks to Kosovo in order to "liberate" it from the Albanians? Wasn't it exactly this particular act that prompted NATO to intervene and bomb Serbia in order to stop Milosevic from massacring civilians in Kosovo, and stop it they did.
Didn't these events lead to a popular uprising in Serbia, which eventually saw the end of the Milosevic' regime and have democracy restored?
So why then I still read so much nationalistically inspired propaganda? To me nationalism does not represent honour and pride, only hatred and intolerance.
Nationalism, wherever it surfaced, never did much good in the end. Give me one example where a nationalistic government has ever succeeded in bringing prosperity, security, peace and stability to its people, without causing conflict with its neighbouring countries or with part of its population. Nikolic, in my opinion is nothing more than an extreme right wing hothead who keeps flip flopping on his policies and changing his mind on where he stands. He has violent tendencies which he finds hard to control. He is in no position to bring any kind of good to Serbia. He is talking of changes but he doesn't say what he'll do better and how. it is easy to talk the talk but can he walk the walk, so to speak. I am not convinced.
I am not saying Tadic is perfect but at least you know where you stand with him and he has the respect of Europe, Russia, China and allies of Serbia, including potential investors.

bganon

pre 14 godina

JS your rants are becoming less comprehensible by the day. Half of the things you write make some sense, but most of it is either factually inaccurate or bordering on paranoid.

I mean Tadic wants the join the EU because he is from Sarajevo. Really? That MUSLUM town you write, as if there were not Serbs and Croats who live there and buildings of historical significance there that either have nothing to do with religion or for example orthodox and catholic churches. I refute that claim of yours and reject your capital letter which seem to imply disgust.

Then you claim that Tadic wants to enlarge Islam in Europe? Why??? Does it look to you as if Tadic could become a Mufti and lead an Islamic revolution?

Tadic may infiltrate polling booths with those who pretend to be Nikolic voters??? What? Are these individuals shape shifting types that Fox Mulder used to encounter?

Apart from your far fetched theories you can't even get facts right? You can? Then please tell me how is it that you say that Tadic has been in power for a decade? In your universe do you use base 8, instead of base 10?

I don't believe you can possibly answer these questions with evidence and factually. And to be honest I'm not sure somebody as frankly, crazy as yourself is worth my time.

bganon

pre 14 godina

JS you are paranoid aren't you? Now you think I'm somebody working for DS! For the record I can't stand Trivan, just like anybody with any sense.

People at this forum know my position, and only people on the extreme right start on about these conspiracy theories, it seems to come with the territory...

So somebody who wants facts, not propaganda or conspiracy theories is a nitpicker? OK....

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

Boris Tadic is Slandering Tomislav Nikolic by saying that Tomislav Nikolic is opposed to reconciliation with the Albanians.

The Albanian attitude is something that will not be mended just because Tadic is President or Nikolic is President, but only after they know that Independence is Strictly Forbidden under all circumstances, and only after this Reality sinks in, can the Albanians begin to grudgingly mend their behaviour, even though they will always want to steal Kosovo.

What are those clear perpectives that Taic speaks of, why is it only a few says before the Election, that he says anything, when he has had 10 years, and he has done nothing of importance, but he has wrecked the Economy.

In this election, Tadic wants to steal the Election, it just like he did with the Parliamentary Election, and if Tadic really wants to unite political ideas which can come together around what is good and useful for the people.

If that is what Tadic truly wants then he should say that a Wise People understand the Importance of Balance in the Political Landscape that that everyone should Vote Tomislav Nikolic as President, and not for Boris Gladna Godina Tadic.

The DS and the SPS already have the Parliament which is the main Power in Serbia, and Tadic speaking like the Megalomaniac that he is, seems to think that the Presidency is the Dictatorship, and that is how he had run Serbia, because we know that Germany and America like Dictators.

We only have to look at the installed Dictators of the Italian Prime Minister, and the Greek Prime Minister, and make No Mistake, The Fourth German Reich want a Dictator in every Continental European Country, because that is the only way a German Reich can succeed.

Dacic will be the next Mario Monti or the next Lucas Papademos, because Democracy is not Popular with that lot, and the proof is the Stolen Parliamentary Election, and the cover up by Partisan Political Stooges who occupy the positions of Public Servants who should do they jobs without Fear or Favour, who we have seen that they work for Tadic and Dacic and not for the People of Serbia.

Where to begin refuting the Lies and Slanders of this mean spirited Fourth Reich creation, and we know that Tadic and Dacic consistency and predictable with being Germany’s Puppets.

We are stuck with Dacic because the Parliamentary Election was stolen, and we may be stuck with Tadic, because the Presidential Elections will be rigged also, and this is why Tadic is talking like he is to make it appear that anyone other than the Gullible believe him,. Or those who are receiving Soro’s Money will Vote for him.

It is blatantly untrue to say that Tomislav Nikolic does not want to join the European Union, and that is a matter for the Parliament, and not the President, but Tomislav Nikolic has said that he will not give up Kosovo to join the European Union, if Germany says that it is a condition.

I would have thought that wanting to join the European Union so Desperately is because Tadic who is from the MUSLIM CITY of Sarajevo, and says that he is a Christian, wants to rush into the European Union, when the proper approach is to go slowly, and the reason is that Tadic wants to give up Kosovo, because he wants to enlarge Islam in Europe.

Tadic slandered and lied by saying that he urged them to find peace within themselves, because that is a prerequisite for peace in Serbia, to not threaten anyone or promote a policy of intimidation, because elections are a celebration of democracy and freedom and not of intimidation, noted Tadic, adding that as in the past, he would be ready to offer a hand of friendship after the second round, but Sarajevo Tadic is not Serbia’s friend and probably never was or will be.

I think that Tadic and Company know that People will go on buses and be at the Polling Booths, and that they will speak just a few things all days long repeatedly.

Those things that should be said are few and they are the following, and Nikolic Voters and say these things while they are lining up to Vote, but only in groups of two where it looks like People are just having a Friendly Conservation.

Dacic is the person who went to Washington to have breakfast and to eat with those who murdered his friend Slobodan Milosevic, and that says everything I need to know about Dacic and the SPS.

Other things are he term Boris Gladna Godina Tadic, and the Nikolic will lift the Rug of Corruption to show the Corrupt Self Serving nature of Tadic and the Previous Government.

Tadic does not want Nikolic to win, because the SPS will gain more Votes at the expense of the DS at the next Election if there is a SNS, SPS, and DSS Government, and because this Government which SPS Voters really want might come about, because otherwise Dacic along with Tadic will face Criminal Charges of Corruption.

Tadic may infiltrate the Polling Booths with those who pretend to be Nikolic Voters, but are really Tadic Voters, and the Parliamentary Elections were stolen, and Tadic is working on stealing the Presidential Elections.

Wise Voters will not allow Power to be Monopolized, because History Proves that Power Corrupts, and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely, and the safe thing is to Balance the Political Landscape.

The Political Parties are in competition with each other, and by having a Balance in the Political Landscape, it keeps both of them more Honest, and more eager to do their jobs better.

Keep it Simple, write them on a piece of paper, and these sayings along with a few other things that others may comment on and that the SNS may think of should be used on the buses and at the Polling Booths.

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

My Honest comment may have made some one worry enough to write try to muddy the waters, and I remember saying that I would never Vote for you, if you Campaigned on honest speech and trust.

I think Tadic’s rant is bordering on the paranoid, if you bothered to read the Article on what he said about Tomislav Nikolic

Tadic and Clique has been speaking a lot about how Nikolic supporters are going to trash ballot boxes, and if you read Tanjug, then that is what the Defence Minister slandered Nikolic with, but it could that Tadic and Clique may do something to blame Nikolic, and even you had to repeat the other day that only Morons do not know that Tadic and Clique are corrupt.

Mentioning Fox Mulder seems to suggest that you like reading comics, because they are an easy read, you know that if Tadic infiltrates, then it is by means of these he sends, and I will you be there pretending to be a Nikolic Voter.

I have found that on many occasions nitpickers are Hypocrites, and they nitpick because they have a Secret Agenda.

I must have been worth your time, because you know that I wrote a good comment, and now you are trying to discredit it as a rant, whereas it my opinions, and they are genuinely held opinion to which I am perfectly entitled.

I can never be right for you, because only Tadic can be right for you.

The fact that you wrote that you do not believe that I can possibly answer these questions with evidence and factually, seems to suggest Disgust

It is good that a person can write: “to be honest”, because it shows that they are educated, and such Educated People could one day Campaigned on honest speech and trust.

I suspect that you are a Card Carrying Member of the DS, and that is your right, and it would be funny if you were actually Boris Tadic or the Deputy Leader of the Democratic Party Jelena Trivan, or an employee of one them.

Did you know that on 23 February 2012, here on B 92, and “to be honest” Jelena Trivan said that Tadic and Clique must not be Arrogant, and I even wrote a comment (some would say rant) on that Article.

We know that Tadic has more Charisma, and is mote of a Movie Star Type, but that is not what Serbia needs President, unless they also have ability and integrity.

The Voters could cope with genuine economic mistakes, but what do normal People think of Puppets, and I guess you need good degree of Arrogance to Deliberately lie to the Voters and Steal an Election, because the only way to prevent Arrogance With Tadic is to not vote for him, but to Vote for Tomislav Nikolic.

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

I know that you realize what we all know, and that is that it pays to Advertise, and that was what bothered you, but you will not Advertise that, because you probably benefit financially from the Tadic Regime.

My comment is good, and my Advice to Advertise and continue to Advertise wherever People are is good, and do it at the Polling places on Election Day, and you know who knows it too.

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

I do feel better knowing that you, “to be honest” claim that you do not work for the DS.

I do not see things in terms of Left or Right, but rather I see things as being either good or bad and foolish or wise, and so to me there is no Extreme Left, or Extreme Right, but only good or bad, foolish or wise.

For the record, “to be honest”, you claimed you cannot stand Jelena Trivan, and say that anybody with any sense would think the same, but Tadic likes her and yet by your own words Tadic lacks sense for this, and has made an error of judgement, but you will Vote for him.

People at this forum know your position, and some of them could be wondering why you will not just for the record “to be honest” deny that you are not a cars Carrying Member of the DS.

I was hoping that you had a sense of humour, and could understand that it would be funny if you were actually Boris Tadic or the Deputy Leader of the Democratic Party Jelena Trivan, or an employee of one them.

bganon

pre 14 godina

JS so if you get it wrong, and somebody points it out its nitpicking. If you air some conspiracy ideas that turn out not to be true then you were joking.

No offense but you don't make an impression as somebody with a good sense of humour and if during an election you think its funny to mistakenly repeatedly accuse somebody of being a card carrying member of a political party, or a functionary - well there is no joke there, is there?

Anyway you are right to remind me of my saying that to be honest I don't think you are worth my time and regret not sticking to that. I'll just leave you to carry on airing your outlandish theories...

Yet Another J S

pre 14 godina

I made a general statement that covers some of the times and some of the People, concerning nitpickers, and I hoped that you would have read it correctly, and in the way it was intended to be conveyed.

We know that we can make generalized statements, however, such generalizations do not apply in every case, and we know that we can generalize and say that sometimes the guilty will think that it was a statement against them, but that to is a generalization, and so no definite inference can be deduced, unless it is accompanied by a confession, which can prove difficult with certain People.

I do not see things in terms of Left or Right, but rather I see things as being either good or bad, correct or incorrect, and foolish or wise, and so to me there is no Extreme Left, or Extreme Right, but only good or bad, correct or incorrect, and foolish or wise.

Another thing is that I look at the Message rather than the Messenger, and I think that it is the Policy that a Person is putting forward is what should be criticized or argued against, or debated, and not that the Person should be criticized.

It is the Opinion of Many People that having a political Balance in Serbia’s Political Landscape would greatly benefit Democracy in Serbia, and they are totally against Election Rigging and Fraud, and they are against Goons usurping the positions of Public Servants, and they are against Systemic Corruption, and this is why they will be Voting for Tomislav Nikolic for the next President of Serbia.

I hope that we can agree to disagree without becoming disagreeable, and I hope that we can start again with this Attitude, and I think that People should not Vote for Boris Tadic at this Election.

I would like to know your Opinion on One Conspiracy Theory that I believe is likely, and it says that America, the European Union, and Tadic and Company have a considerable advantage because they will ask the Invisible Devil to send the Invisible Demons at the Polling Booths, and just before the People Vote, the Invisible Demons will make them hear a Voice in their heads that only they can hear, and that is for them to vote for Tadic as the next President of Serbia.