Egypt: Muslim Brotherhood to join talks

In Washington, U.S. President Barack Obama has called for talks with leaders from Germany, Britain, and the United Arab Emirates to discuss the situation,

B92

The people of Egypt should be aware of the intentions of the wise men and women of the west.On one hand they pretend to have the best interests of the demonstrators at heart and on the other they will do their damn best to see the continuation of Mubarak's state apparatus.No wonder we see Hillary Clinton's statement " the road to democracy is through Suleiman"-Egypt's chief torturer.

The west's interests have nothing to do with the interests of the Egyptian people.There is no turning back.Only a complete removal of the regime will bring about true democracy for the people

The US (i.e israel) tip-toed carefully around the egyptian "mess" during the most heated days last week. At first, strong support for their local dictator, later almost backing popular uprising and now back to full support of the stooge Mubarak.

Mubarak jumps when israel tells him to so he has jumped and will (for now) remain as long as it takes to secure another stable terror regime, willing to strangle palestinians and mantain american/israeli torture gulags. A free democratic Egypt will be the end of israel as a world pariah and a jews-only apartheid outpost in the middle east. But the tunisian vegetable seller have definitly set things in motion, it might seem like total darkness over here (just like it did in Egypt) but maybe even the serbs would dare to oust their imposed dicator one fine day....

The US (i.e israel) tip-toed carefully around the egyptian "mess" during the most heated days last week. At first, strong support for their local dictator, later almost backing popular uprising and now back to full support of the stooge Mubarak.

Mubarak jumps when israel tells him to so he has jumped and will (for now) remain as long as it takes to secure another stable terror regime, willing to strangle palestinians and mantain american/israeli torture gulags. A free democratic Egypt will be the end of israel as a world pariah and a jews-only apartheid outpost in the middle east. But the tunisian vegetable seller have definitly set things in motion, it might seem like total darkness over here (just like it did in Egypt) but maybe even the serbs would dare to oust their imposed dicator one fine day....
(wtf, 6 February 2011 13:00)

I totally agree with your comment.What i would add is US administrations have a long history of making deals with dictators, gangsters and every SOB of the world as long as he is their own SOB.
Let's not forget that US prime motive is power.The often-voiced American concern for democracy & the rights/aspirations of the general public beyond their shores is just trash.
An actual democracy of the people that doesn't necessarily want to be another US poodle is certainly a worst case scenario for them

Does anyone here actually believe that a democratic nation of Egypt will be the end result of this "revolution?" The brotherhood will use democracy to their advantage, to gain the right for an election. If they win, do we actually believe continued elections will prevail or that an islamic state will be formed? Come on people, wake up...this isn't about democracy, this is about the rise of Islam and it's ultimate end game of an Islamic world. Certainly the US has supported countless dictators in the Middle East which supports it's agenda...of course...a few billion dollars in "aid" to help foster this cooperation doesn't hurt either...until now. This dictators, like the Sha of Iran, Mubarak, Saddam, Noriega, Diem, stommed on the right of their people as elephants to grass..and now you have this uncontrollable hysteria of violence, hatred, and revolution.

The wave of discontent has begun, perhaps unstoppable. What happens at the end is anyones GUESS...but I'm gonna guess its not gonna be good...certainly not some benelovent democratic Egypt.

Does anyone here actually believe that a democratic nation of Egypt will be the end result of this "revolution?"
Michael

Nobody can tell you with certainty what will be the net result of the uprising in
Egypt.The feedback we get from the protesters is they want representative government,enforceable human rights,independent courts and better living conditions -necessary for the development of a civic society -and the right not to have american tear gas shot in their faces of course.

Bottom line its up to the Egyptians themselves to choose the kind of goverment they want.If people want freedom they have to look to each other to find it.

The Egyptian people will find their own way.

The Muslim Brotherhood's worst dream may be about to come true - an open society in which they have to compete against ordinary political parties for power. They've gained a lot of support over the years by being the only real opposition to Mubarak, but how long will their influence last if people have a choice between them and their calls for an Islamic republic (just like in Iran!) and democratically-oriented parties offering human rights and better living conditions? This is what those thousands in Tahrir Square were calling for, not a return to Islamic roots. (Best feel-good moment: a group of Copts joining hands to form a protective circle around a group of praying fellow-Egyptians who happened to be Muslims.)

"maybe even the serbs would dare to oust their imposed dicator one fine day....
(wtf, 6 February 2011 13:00)"

They did that, already, in 2000. Of course, you could argue that some things haven't changed, and I would agree, in particular policy on Kosova, which Belgrade STILL thinks belongs to it. And on that, ironicaly enough for your funny comment, Belgrade has the total support of both Mubarak's dictatorship and the racist regime in Israel, both now and before Octopber 2000. So they're your allies.

"maybe even the serbs would dare to oust their imposed dicator one fine day....
(wtf, 6 February 2011 13:00)"

They did that, already, in 2000. Of course, you could argue that some things haven't changed, and I would agree, in particular policy on Kosova, which Belgrade STILL thinks belongs to it. And on that, ironicaly enough for your funny comment, Belgrade has the total support of both Mubarak's dictatorship and the racist regime in Israel, both now and before Octopber 2000. So they're your allies.

The US (i.e israel) tip-toed carefully around the egyptian "mess" during the most heated days last week. At first, strong support for their local dictator, later almost backing popular uprising and now back to full support of the stooge Mubarak.

Mubarak jumps when israel tells him to so he has jumped and will (for now) remain as long as it takes to secure another stable terror regime, willing to strangle palestinians and mantain american/israeli torture gulags. A free democratic Egypt will be the end of israel as a world pariah and a jews-only apartheid outpost in the middle east. But the tunisian vegetable seller have definitly set things in motion, it might seem like total darkness over here (just like it did in Egypt) but maybe even the serbs would dare to oust their imposed dicator one fine day....

The US (i.e israel) tip-toed carefully around the egyptian "mess" during the most heated days last week. At first, strong support for their local dictator, later almost backing popular uprising and now back to full support of the stooge Mubarak.

Mubarak jumps when israel tells him to so he has jumped and will (for now) remain as long as it takes to secure another stable terror regime, willing to strangle palestinians and mantain american/israeli torture gulags. A free democratic Egypt will be the end of israel as a world pariah and a jews-only apartheid outpost in the middle east. But the tunisian vegetable seller have definitly set things in motion, it might seem like total darkness over here (just like it did in Egypt) but maybe even the serbs would dare to oust their imposed dicator one fine day....
(wtf, 6 February 2011 13:00)

I totally agree with your comment.What i would add is US administrations have a long history of making deals with dictators, gangsters and every SOB of the world as long as he is their own SOB.
Let's not forget that US prime motive is power.The often-voiced American concern for democracy & the rights/aspirations of the general public beyond their shores is just trash.
An actual democracy of the people that doesn't necessarily want to be another US poodle is certainly a worst case scenario for them

In Washington, U.S. President Barack Obama has called for talks with leaders from Germany, Britain, and the United Arab Emirates to discuss the situation,

B92

The people of Egypt should be aware of the intentions of the wise men and women of the west.On one hand they pretend to have the best interests of the demonstrators at heart and on the other they will do their damn best to see the continuation of Mubarak's state apparatus.No wonder we see Hillary Clinton's statement " the road to democracy is through Suleiman"-Egypt's chief torturer.

The west's interests have nothing to do with the interests of the Egyptian people.There is no turning back.Only a complete removal of the regime will bring about true democracy for the people

Does anyone here actually believe that a democratic nation of Egypt will be the end result of this "revolution?" The brotherhood will use democracy to their advantage, to gain the right for an election. If they win, do we actually believe continued elections will prevail or that an islamic state will be formed? Come on people, wake up...this isn't about democracy, this is about the rise of Islam and it's ultimate end game of an Islamic world. Certainly the US has supported countless dictators in the Middle East which supports it's agenda...of course...a few billion dollars in "aid" to help foster this cooperation doesn't hurt either...until now. This dictators, like the Sha of Iran, Mubarak, Saddam, Noriega, Diem, stommed on the right of their people as elephants to grass..and now you have this uncontrollable hysteria of violence, hatred, and revolution.

The wave of discontent has begun, perhaps unstoppable. What happens at the end is anyones GUESS...but I'm gonna guess its not gonna be good...certainly not some benelovent democratic Egypt.

The Muslim Brotherhood's worst dream may be about to come true - an open society in which they have to compete against ordinary political parties for power. They've gained a lot of support over the years by being the only real opposition to Mubarak, but how long will their influence last if people have a choice between them and their calls for an Islamic republic (just like in Iran!) and democratically-oriented parties offering human rights and better living conditions? This is what those thousands in Tahrir Square were calling for, not a return to Islamic roots. (Best feel-good moment: a group of Copts joining hands to form a protective circle around a group of praying fellow-Egyptians who happened to be Muslims.)

Does anyone here actually believe that a democratic nation of Egypt will be the end result of this "revolution?"
Michael

Nobody can tell you with certainty what will be the net result of the uprising in
Egypt.The feedback we get from the protesters is they want representative government,enforceable human rights,independent courts and better living conditions -necessary for the development of a civic society -and the right not to have american tear gas shot in their faces of course.

Bottom line its up to the Egyptians themselves to choose the kind of goverment they want.If people want freedom they have to look to each other to find it.

The Egyptian people will find their own way.