"China won't change stand on Kosovo"

Some people say this news is boring. Of course, it is repetitive. However, China's stance and the stance of other countries is repeated for a reason. Most likely the US and other countries recognizing the UDI are pressuring China and other nations not recognizing the UDI. Whenever that happens, countries repeat their stance. Thus, it makes news. I don't think B92 is reporting this news for no reason at all.
By the way, it's not "so what" when it comes to the most highly populated nation on earth reaffirms its stance on the UDI. China is a very powerful country in terms of population, economy, and military. I bet Kosovo's Albanians would love to have China on their side.

Thank you China. My next holiday won't be in China but I'll have to visit at the next opportunity.

China will be the world leader in 10 years time and I'm glad we have them on Serbia's side.

NATO made a huge mistake bombing the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade and this is one mistake it will live to regret.

China's not "on Serbia's side".

China's on China's side.

Boring? Well this whole Kosovo issue becomes very boring. Kosovo is just a Serbian province. Please all: accept this!

So what?

It would be better to recongize the independent state of Kosova but if not (for the moment) ... So What!

Kosova is acting as a souvereign state.

At least K. Albanians can respect humen rights!
China you need to go and talk with Tibet and Dalai lama and not threat war with Taiwan and other regions in your country!
(Boki, 8 October 2010 12:03)

Boki do you research. Find out what kind of country Tibet was before the Chinese invasion... Most people welcomed it, it was the corrupt ruling class(the few rich families), that bribed the dali lama. The Dali Lama didnt leave when the Chinese army came, he left later much later, as he was welcomed to stay in China.... Did u know that before China invaded, being a women in Tibet was considered punishment for a previous life wrong doing?... yea they never mention that in the main stream news...


also Taiwan to China is Montengro to Serbia

At least K. Albanians can respect humen rights!
China you need to go and talk with Tibet and Dalai lama and not threat war with Taiwan and other regions in your country!

This typeof news is becaming so bring. It's the same as if we read every day that ; USA will not change its stance on Kosova/o. It will become extremaly boring.

Kosovo membership in the UN blocked for ever! No representation in sports, nothing! Just as it was ment to be. The theft of someone elses land doesn't come easy.

MikeC:

Serbia EU Member blocked for EVER!
Unless they don't recognize kosovo!
(Boki, 8 October 2010 22:36)

The people in EU do not agree with you Boki. Serbia will be in EU around 2015. Unfortunatly without its southern province. Yesterday I read that EU has granted even Albania with BIOMETRIC PASSPORTS on the visa-free travel list, but not Kosovo. EU do not want, and I repeat, do not want K Albanians any more in the EU. Why ? 1. Most of them are causing trouble wherever they go. Ask anyone from France, Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden or Germany what they think of K Albanians. 2. Kosovo is not a country like Albania. Kosovos status is not settled yet and as you probably know, EU is status neutral due to Spain, Greece, Cyprus, Slovakia and Romania. Not to mention UN. 122 of 192 countries treat Kosovo as a southern Serbian province.

I wonder what is more funny here: the usual albanian king-kong-phrases or their laughable nick-names ... =)

well, never mind, China has made it clear to them I guess.

if they didn´t know it before.

time is on Serbia´s side.

Do we need China's recognition? Yes.
However we did not ask any serb hidden behind American Eagle nickname for help and support.
(Simpatiku, 9 October 2010 12:04)
====================

Why do you talk in riddles?

"At least K. Albanians can respect humen rights!"

Is that why all non-Albanians are living as well as they are?!

Thank you China. My next vacation will involve eating the Beef w/ Garlic Sauce combination with Pork Fried Rice and an Eggroll.

"At least K. Albanians can respect humen rights!"
Boki

Yeah right! You mean minorities living in concentration camps and people needing KFOR protection to venture out? The destruction of graveyeards and churches. Yeah, you albanians sure know the meaning of human rights. Don't insult our intelligence.

China's not "on Serbia's side".

China's on China's side.
(Danilo, 8 October 2010 14:55)
=================

Either way they are NOT on Kosovo's side.

China has a long history of violation of the international law: human rights; Tibet etc..

Thus breaching the international law by refusing to recognise Kosova after the CLEAR and UNAMBIGUOUS rule of the ICJ that Kosova's independence is in line with the international law is just one more folder on the Chinese disrespect of the international law- nothing more nothing less.
(ben, 8 October 2010 22:46)
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OK, this is the second Albanian I am asking this question and I hope that this time I get an answer.

Since when is NOT recognising Kosovo against any law?
Please do answer this. I am curious as to know according to which law you are seeing this as a breach of law?

After that date, any country who uses statement that Kosovo Independence is violation of International Law the reason for non-recognition is in breach of International Law.
(Simpatiku, 9 October 2010 12:31)
===================
Please be serious.

There is an actual law prohibiting non recognition of Kosovo?

I suggest "Kosova" take China, Russia and the rest of the world to ICJ for breach of law and get compensated then.

I don't think that the US can influence China's decision on this matter. We owe China over one trillion dollars (in the form of US treasury bonds). While selling it off would be disasterous for their economy as well as ours, failing to keep buying our debt would have devastating consequences for our borrowing rates, similar to the problem Greece faced. I'm sorry Kosovo, but you will need to convince China to recognize you through compliance with their wishes and not insults. We can't help you in changing their minds.

China has a long history of violation of the international law: human rights; Tibet etc..

Thus breaching the international law by refusing to recognise Kosova after the CLEAR and UNAMBIGUOUS rule of the ICJ that Kosova's independence is in line with the international law is just one more folder on the Chinese disrespect of the international law- nothing more nothing less.

and an Eggroll.
(Mike, 8 October 2010 20:49)

where do you get your food man????
(ben, 8 October 2010 22:48)
===================

Any city which has Chinatown, or at least Chinese restaurants.

"Thus breaching the international law by refusing to recognise Kosova after the CLEAR and UNAMBIGUOUS rule of the ICJ that Kosova's independence is in line with the international law is just one more folder on the Chinese disrespect of the international law- nothing more nothing less." (ben)

-- You want some cheese with that w(h)ine of yours?

Oh and I usually eat at Mia's Garden, this great little place about 5 minutes from my pad. The eggroll can be substituted for either Wonton or Egg Drop soup if you prefer. Their lunch specials are pretty good too. All under 6 bucks.

Chinese people always support Serbs

www.srbijakinu.cn

You are correct, Ron. This KiM issue is getting old. Same old daily back and forth by the pro-Serb and pro-Albanian sides, and nothing changes. Until Belgrade and Pristina sit down, with their Western overlords, and come to mutual agreements, all the hot air on this site means nothing. Anyone going to the Gay Pride parade in BG? Hope it rains real hard.

MikeC:

Serbia EU Member blocked for EVER!
Unless they don't recognize kosovo!

Boring? Well this whole Kosovo issue becomes very boring. Kosovo is just a Serbian province. Please all: accept this!
(Ron, 8 October 2010 17:04)
________________________

Please accept this he says,

lol, i pity that statement.

MikeC:

Serbia EU Member blocked for EVER!
Unless they don't recognize kosovo!
Boki

GOOD!

I don't think that the US can influence China's decision on this matter. We owe China over one trillion dollars (in the form of US treasury bonds). While selling it off would be disasterous for their economy as well as ours, failing to keep buying our debt would have devastating consequences for our borrowing rates, similar to the problem Greece faced. I'm sorry Kosovo, but you will need to convince China to recognize you through compliance with their wishes and not insults. We can't help you in changing their minds.
(American Eagle, 8 October 2010 18:32)

Do we need China's recognition? Yes.
However we did not ask any serb hidden behind American Eagle nickname for help and support.

OK, this is the second Albanian I am asking this question and I hope that this time I get an answer.

Since when is NOT recognising Kosovo against any law?
Please do answer this. I am curious as to know according to which law you are seeing this as a breach of law?
(Peggy, 9 October 2010 08:25)

I will answer your question Peggy.
It's the souvereign right of any country to decide whether will or will not recognize the other country.
We also know that ICJ is named a sole interpreter of international law by Serbia itself.
ICJ in its interpretation has made clear that Declaration of Independence does not constitute any breach in International Law.
After that date, any country who uses statement that Kosovo Independence is violation of International Law the reason for non-recognition is in breach of International Law.

Serbia EU Member blocked for EVER!
Unless they don't recognize kosovo!
(Boki)
-
Unless we DON'T recognize Kosovo? Sure, its already been stated numerous times by Serbia that she will not recognize your circus-state. And EU STILL wants us in.

To be honest; If EU wont take in Serbia b/c we wont recognize Kosovo, it would be the best deal so far they would have to offer.

PS; Try proof-reading next, before you submit Boki.

Funny dejavu. There are "A", "B", "C" and "D" weeks in B92. The same article is "cut and paste" each week of China standing like a rock beside Serbia. Next week it is the champion of minorities', Slovakia's turn, followed by the stern bull Spain and the uncompromising Romania. Each of them take turns. To join the band, some hugging and kissing from the friendly and neighbour loving Greece ia published now and then. If this makes you feel secure, go on...

and an Eggroll.
(Mike, 8 October 2010 20:49)

where do you get your food man????

Anyone going to the Gay Pride parade in BG? Hope it rains real hard.
(papajohn, 8 October 2010 18:44)

Why, you like wet T-shirt contests? LOL.

"However stating that independence of Kosovo is violation of international law and using that as a reason for non recognition after ICJ issued its opinion, is violation of international law."
=========================

Again, I ask you to show me the law in any country which stipulates what you have just said.
If that was the case, like I said previously, then take these countries to the ICJ for breach of the said law.
THERE IS NO SUCH LAW.

For your information the ICJ did not say it was not against the law to actually secede. They merely said that it was not illegal to declare it (free speech) but did not declare "Kosova" independent.
To this date no credible body has. Not the UN, not the EU not NATO not anyone.
So saying that they will not recognise Kosovo as independent based on international law is not against the law.
Where do you get such silly ideas from?

Please be serious.

There is an actual law prohibiting non recognition of Kosovo?

I suggest "Kosova" take China, Russia and the rest of the world to ICJ for breach of law and get compensated then.
(Peggy, 10 October 2010 01:43)

Peggy
There is no law prohibiting non recognition of Kosovo. I did not say that. If you carefully read my answer you will see that I said decision on recognition or non recognition of Kosovo is sovereign right of any independent countries.
However stating that independence of Kosovo is violation of international law and using that as a reason for non recognition after ICJ issued its opinion, is violation of international law.
Also, it is your right to put the name Kosova in quotes. However I must respectfully remind you that all nouns in albanian language end with either a, i or u. Therefore using the word Kosova only implies the gender of noun in albanian language and not its status.
As you know the official name of Serbia in serbian language is Srbija. Following your logic it means that everything other than international name Serbia has to be in quotes as well.

So she only think people need to do is declare themselves independent and presto they are. That is what you said earlier on. That's all it takes. I don't think so. Your ideas ARE silly and not just according to me but I would say to most of the world.

When UN or EU say you are independent then you might have a chance not a second before. Saying so doesn't make it so.
(Peggy, 11 October 2010 22:38)

A while ago your "patriot" Kostunica said there are 172 countries that support Serbia on preserving "territorial integrity". That time Kosovo had only 20 recognitions.
Right at this moment that number is down to 122 and it still does not mean that all those countries support Serbia.
Next year that number of potencial "supporters" of Serbia will go down to 92 and those countries will still be named as "supporters" of Serbia.

For your information the ICJ did not say it was not against the law to actually secede. They merely said that it was not illegal to declare it (free speech) but did not declare "Kosova" independent.
To this date no credible body has. Not the UN, not the EU not NATO not anyone.
So saying that they will not recognise Kosovo as independent based on international law is not against the law.
Where do you get such silly ideas from?
(Peggy, 11 October 2010 00:08)

For your information, ICJ has not been asked to issue any opinion in regards to the right of Kosovo to secede. If you remember Srbija has been warned with other words that question she put to ICJ is stupid.
Also ICJ can not declare any new country independent because that is not its job.
The independence is already declared by Kosovo assembly based on the will of majority of population.
As for showing the laws to you it suffices to open the ICJ opinion and read that opinion.
All countries have been declared independent by issuing declaration of independence. The country is internationally legitimized by recognition from other countries.
The declarations of independence are not simply expressions of freedom of speech. Following your logic Srbija has violated the freedom of speech because she issued indictments against Kosovo president and Prime Minister for according to her "violation of serbian constitution" which is irelavant to majority of Kosovo population.
As for where do I get my "silly" opinions from, just because you think they are silly it does not mean they really are.
For Srbija even the existence of albanians in Kosovo might be silly but she can do nothing about that.

For Srbija even the existence of albanians in Kosovo might be silly but she can do nothing about that.
(Simpatiku, 11 October 2010 17:40)
===================
Please stop making things up.
You cannot speak for the Serbs so you cannot possible say that existence of Albanians in Kosovo is silly as far as the Serbs are concerned.
All you can say is that existence of Serbs in Kosovo is silly as far as Albanians are concerned because you are proving that every day and as an Albanian can speak on their behalf.

So she only think people need to do is declare themselves independent and presto they are. That is what you said earlier on. That's all it takes. I don't think so. Your ideas ARE silly and not just according to me but I would say to most of the world.

When UN or EU say you are independent then you might have a chance not a second before. Saying so doesn't make it so.

When UN or EU say you are independent then you might have a chance not a second before. Saying so doesn't make it so.
(Peggy, 11 October 2010 22:38)

There is no legal basis in international law (or any law for that matter, perhaps except Peggy's law) that gives the right to the UN or EU to certify the independence of anything.

Otherwise we would see many "certificates of independence" around issued by the UN or EU, but I still have to see one so I'm not sure where you got that idea from.

Independence is declared by the entity concerned and whether or not is effective depends on whether it is recognized by other states.

On that point, Kosovo has been remarkably successful with 70 recognitions in less than 3 yrs. It would be hard to find other examples of independence being recognized by such a high number of states from all parts of the world within less than 3 yrs.

At least K. Albanians can respect humen rights!
China you need to go and talk with Tibet and Dalai lama and not threat war with Taiwan and other regions in your country!

This typeof news is becaming so bring. It's the same as if we read every day that ; USA will not change its stance on Kosova/o. It will become extremaly boring.

So what?

It would be better to recongize the independent state of Kosova but if not (for the moment) ... So What!

Kosova is acting as a souvereign state.

Thank you China. My next holiday won't be in China but I'll have to visit at the next opportunity.

China will be the world leader in 10 years time and I'm glad we have them on Serbia's side.

NATO made a huge mistake bombing the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade and this is one mistake it will live to regret.

At least K. Albanians can respect humen rights!
China you need to go and talk with Tibet and Dalai lama and not threat war with Taiwan and other regions in your country!
(Boki, 8 October 2010 12:03)

Boki do you research. Find out what kind of country Tibet was before the Chinese invasion... Most people welcomed it, it was the corrupt ruling class(the few rich families), that bribed the dali lama. The Dali Lama didnt leave when the Chinese army came, he left later much later, as he was welcomed to stay in China.... Did u know that before China invaded, being a women in Tibet was considered punishment for a previous life wrong doing?... yea they never mention that in the main stream news...


also Taiwan to China is Montengro to Serbia

Boring? Well this whole Kosovo issue becomes very boring. Kosovo is just a Serbian province. Please all: accept this!

China's not "on Serbia's side".

China's on China's side.

MikeC:

Serbia EU Member blocked for EVER!
Unless they don't recognize kosovo!

Please be serious.

There is an actual law prohibiting non recognition of Kosovo?

I suggest "Kosova" take China, Russia and the rest of the world to ICJ for breach of law and get compensated then.
(Peggy, 10 October 2010 01:43)

Peggy
There is no law prohibiting non recognition of Kosovo. I did not say that. If you carefully read my answer you will see that I said decision on recognition or non recognition of Kosovo is sovereign right of any independent countries.
However stating that independence of Kosovo is violation of international law and using that as a reason for non recognition after ICJ issued its opinion, is violation of international law.
Also, it is your right to put the name Kosova in quotes. However I must respectfully remind you that all nouns in albanian language end with either a, i or u. Therefore using the word Kosova only implies the gender of noun in albanian language and not its status.
As you know the official name of Serbia in serbian language is Srbija. Following your logic it means that everything other than international name Serbia has to be in quotes as well.

Some people say this news is boring. Of course, it is repetitive. However, China's stance and the stance of other countries is repeated for a reason. Most likely the US and other countries recognizing the UDI are pressuring China and other nations not recognizing the UDI. Whenever that happens, countries repeat their stance. Thus, it makes news. I don't think B92 is reporting this news for no reason at all.
By the way, it's not "so what" when it comes to the most highly populated nation on earth reaffirms its stance on the UDI. China is a very powerful country in terms of population, economy, and military. I bet Kosovo's Albanians would love to have China on their side.

Kosovo membership in the UN blocked for ever! No representation in sports, nothing! Just as it was ment to be. The theft of someone elses land doesn't come easy.

OK, this is the second Albanian I am asking this question and I hope that this time I get an answer.

Since when is NOT recognising Kosovo against any law?
Please do answer this. I am curious as to know according to which law you are seeing this as a breach of law?
(Peggy, 9 October 2010 08:25)

I will answer your question Peggy.
It's the souvereign right of any country to decide whether will or will not recognize the other country.
We also know that ICJ is named a sole interpreter of international law by Serbia itself.
ICJ in its interpretation has made clear that Declaration of Independence does not constitute any breach in International Law.
After that date, any country who uses statement that Kosovo Independence is violation of International Law the reason for non-recognition is in breach of International Law.

China has a long history of violation of the international law: human rights; Tibet etc..

Thus breaching the international law by refusing to recognise Kosova after the CLEAR and UNAMBIGUOUS rule of the ICJ that Kosova's independence is in line with the international law is just one more folder on the Chinese disrespect of the international law- nothing more nothing less.

I wonder what is more funny here: the usual albanian king-kong-phrases or their laughable nick-names ... =)

well, never mind, China has made it clear to them I guess.

if they didn´t know it before.

time is on Serbia´s side.

I don't think that the US can influence China's decision on this matter. We owe China over one trillion dollars (in the form of US treasury bonds). While selling it off would be disasterous for their economy as well as ours, failing to keep buying our debt would have devastating consequences for our borrowing rates, similar to the problem Greece faced. I'm sorry Kosovo, but you will need to convince China to recognize you through compliance with their wishes and not insults. We can't help you in changing their minds.
(American Eagle, 8 October 2010 18:32)

Do we need China's recognition? Yes.
However we did not ask any serb hidden behind American Eagle nickname for help and support.

I don't think that the US can influence China's decision on this matter. We owe China over one trillion dollars (in the form of US treasury bonds). While selling it off would be disasterous for their economy as well as ours, failing to keep buying our debt would have devastating consequences for our borrowing rates, similar to the problem Greece faced. I'm sorry Kosovo, but you will need to convince China to recognize you through compliance with their wishes and not insults. We can't help you in changing their minds.

Thank you China. My next vacation will involve eating the Beef w/ Garlic Sauce combination with Pork Fried Rice and an Eggroll.

and an Eggroll.
(Mike, 8 October 2010 20:49)

where do you get your food man????

China has a long history of violation of the international law: human rights; Tibet etc..

Thus breaching the international law by refusing to recognise Kosova after the CLEAR and UNAMBIGUOUS rule of the ICJ that Kosova's independence is in line with the international law is just one more folder on the Chinese disrespect of the international law- nothing more nothing less.
(ben, 8 October 2010 22:46)
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OK, this is the second Albanian I am asking this question and I hope that this time I get an answer.

Since when is NOT recognising Kosovo against any law?
Please do answer this. I am curious as to know according to which law you are seeing this as a breach of law?

"At least K. Albanians can respect humen rights!"
Boki

Yeah right! You mean minorities living in concentration camps and people needing KFOR protection to venture out? The destruction of graveyeards and churches. Yeah, you albanians sure know the meaning of human rights. Don't insult our intelligence.

Serbia EU Member blocked for EVER!
Unless they don't recognize kosovo!
(Boki)
-
Unless we DON'T recognize Kosovo? Sure, its already been stated numerous times by Serbia that she will not recognize your circus-state. And EU STILL wants us in.

To be honest; If EU wont take in Serbia b/c we wont recognize Kosovo, it would be the best deal so far they would have to offer.

PS; Try proof-reading next, before you submit Boki.

China's not "on Serbia's side".

China's on China's side.
(Danilo, 8 October 2010 14:55)
=================

Either way they are NOT on Kosovo's side.

You are correct, Ron. This KiM issue is getting old. Same old daily back and forth by the pro-Serb and pro-Albanian sides, and nothing changes. Until Belgrade and Pristina sit down, with their Western overlords, and come to mutual agreements, all the hot air on this site means nothing. Anyone going to the Gay Pride parade in BG? Hope it rains real hard.

Boring? Well this whole Kosovo issue becomes very boring. Kosovo is just a Serbian province. Please all: accept this!
(Ron, 8 October 2010 17:04)
________________________

Please accept this he says,

lol, i pity that statement.

"At least K. Albanians can respect humen rights!"

Is that why all non-Albanians are living as well as they are?!

MikeC:

Serbia EU Member blocked for EVER!
Unless they don't recognize kosovo!
Boki

GOOD!

Funny dejavu. There are "A", "B", "C" and "D" weeks in B92. The same article is "cut and paste" each week of China standing like a rock beside Serbia. Next week it is the champion of minorities', Slovakia's turn, followed by the stern bull Spain and the uncompromising Romania. Each of them take turns. To join the band, some hugging and kissing from the friendly and neighbour loving Greece ia published now and then. If this makes you feel secure, go on...

Chinese people always support Serbs

www.srbijakinu.cn

"Thus breaching the international law by refusing to recognise Kosova after the CLEAR and UNAMBIGUOUS rule of the ICJ that Kosova's independence is in line with the international law is just one more folder on the Chinese disrespect of the international law- nothing more nothing less." (ben)

-- You want some cheese with that w(h)ine of yours?

Oh and I usually eat at Mia's Garden, this great little place about 5 minutes from my pad. The eggroll can be substituted for either Wonton or Egg Drop soup if you prefer. Their lunch specials are pretty good too. All under 6 bucks.

and an Eggroll.
(Mike, 8 October 2010 20:49)

where do you get your food man????
(ben, 8 October 2010 22:48)
===================

Any city which has Chinatown, or at least Chinese restaurants.

Anyone going to the Gay Pride parade in BG? Hope it rains real hard.
(papajohn, 8 October 2010 18:44)

Why, you like wet T-shirt contests? LOL.

MikeC:

Serbia EU Member blocked for EVER!
Unless they don't recognize kosovo!
(Boki, 8 October 2010 22:36)

The people in EU do not agree with you Boki. Serbia will be in EU around 2015. Unfortunatly without its southern province. Yesterday I read that EU has granted even Albania with BIOMETRIC PASSPORTS on the visa-free travel list, but not Kosovo. EU do not want, and I repeat, do not want K Albanians any more in the EU. Why ? 1. Most of them are causing trouble wherever they go. Ask anyone from France, Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden or Germany what they think of K Albanians. 2. Kosovo is not a country like Albania. Kosovos status is not settled yet and as you probably know, EU is status neutral due to Spain, Greece, Cyprus, Slovakia and Romania. Not to mention UN. 122 of 192 countries treat Kosovo as a southern Serbian province.

After that date, any country who uses statement that Kosovo Independence is violation of International Law the reason for non-recognition is in breach of International Law.
(Simpatiku, 9 October 2010 12:31)
===================
Please be serious.

There is an actual law prohibiting non recognition of Kosovo?

I suggest "Kosova" take China, Russia and the rest of the world to ICJ for breach of law and get compensated then.

Do we need China's recognition? Yes.
However we did not ask any serb hidden behind American Eagle nickname for help and support.
(Simpatiku, 9 October 2010 12:04)
====================

Why do you talk in riddles?

"However stating that independence of Kosovo is violation of international law and using that as a reason for non recognition after ICJ issued its opinion, is violation of international law."
=========================

Again, I ask you to show me the law in any country which stipulates what you have just said.
If that was the case, like I said previously, then take these countries to the ICJ for breach of the said law.
THERE IS NO SUCH LAW.

For your information the ICJ did not say it was not against the law to actually secede. They merely said that it was not illegal to declare it (free speech) but did not declare "Kosova" independent.
To this date no credible body has. Not the UN, not the EU not NATO not anyone.
So saying that they will not recognise Kosovo as independent based on international law is not against the law.
Where do you get such silly ideas from?

For your information the ICJ did not say it was not against the law to actually secede. They merely said that it was not illegal to declare it (free speech) but did not declare "Kosova" independent.
To this date no credible body has. Not the UN, not the EU not NATO not anyone.
So saying that they will not recognise Kosovo as independent based on international law is not against the law.
Where do you get such silly ideas from?
(Peggy, 11 October 2010 00:08)

For your information, ICJ has not been asked to issue any opinion in regards to the right of Kosovo to secede. If you remember Srbija has been warned with other words that question she put to ICJ is stupid.
Also ICJ can not declare any new country independent because that is not its job.
The independence is already declared by Kosovo assembly based on the will of majority of population.
As for showing the laws to you it suffices to open the ICJ opinion and read that opinion.
All countries have been declared independent by issuing declaration of independence. The country is internationally legitimized by recognition from other countries.
The declarations of independence are not simply expressions of freedom of speech. Following your logic Srbija has violated the freedom of speech because she issued indictments against Kosovo president and Prime Minister for according to her "violation of serbian constitution" which is irelavant to majority of Kosovo population.
As for where do I get my "silly" opinions from, just because you think they are silly it does not mean they really are.
For Srbija even the existence of albanians in Kosovo might be silly but she can do nothing about that.

For Srbija even the existence of albanians in Kosovo might be silly but she can do nothing about that.
(Simpatiku, 11 October 2010 17:40)
===================
Please stop making things up.
You cannot speak for the Serbs so you cannot possible say that existence of Albanians in Kosovo is silly as far as the Serbs are concerned.
All you can say is that existence of Serbs in Kosovo is silly as far as Albanians are concerned because you are proving that every day and as an Albanian can speak on their behalf.

So she only think people need to do is declare themselves independent and presto they are. That is what you said earlier on. That's all it takes. I don't think so. Your ideas ARE silly and not just according to me but I would say to most of the world.

When UN or EU say you are independent then you might have a chance not a second before. Saying so doesn't make it so.

When UN or EU say you are independent then you might have a chance not a second before. Saying so doesn't make it so.
(Peggy, 11 October 2010 22:38)

There is no legal basis in international law (or any law for that matter, perhaps except Peggy's law) that gives the right to the UN or EU to certify the independence of anything.

Otherwise we would see many "certificates of independence" around issued by the UN or EU, but I still have to see one so I'm not sure where you got that idea from.

Independence is declared by the entity concerned and whether or not is effective depends on whether it is recognized by other states.

On that point, Kosovo has been remarkably successful with 70 recognitions in less than 3 yrs. It would be hard to find other examples of independence being recognized by such a high number of states from all parts of the world within less than 3 yrs.

So she only think people need to do is declare themselves independent and presto they are. That is what you said earlier on. That's all it takes. I don't think so. Your ideas ARE silly and not just according to me but I would say to most of the world.

When UN or EU say you are independent then you might have a chance not a second before. Saying so doesn't make it so.
(Peggy, 11 October 2010 22:38)

A while ago your "patriot" Kostunica said there are 172 countries that support Serbia on preserving "territorial integrity". That time Kosovo had only 20 recognitions.
Right at this moment that number is down to 122 and it still does not mean that all those countries support Serbia.
Next year that number of potencial "supporters" of Serbia will go down to 92 and those countries will still be named as "supporters" of Serbia.