Inzko: Situation in Bosnia "serious"

The western backers of Bosnia
together with its Islamic sponsors prefer the present stalemate and they would rather continue the same disastrous policies of the 1990s than move forward.

The main problem with Bosnia is that it cannot exist as a multicultural nation.It has survived until today because of the degree of autonomy Drayton had given to the three constituent parts.

Economically both Serbs and Croats are prosperous and growing. The central Moslem area is one big welfare hole for foreign aid and Islamic "charities". The Moslems would like to get their hands on the Croat-Serb economy or go back to the situation under the Ottoman Empire when the Moslem upper class and city dwellers were fed and subsidized by the officially second-class Christian population.

No wonder the Turkish foreign
Minister Davutoglou talks about Turkey restoring its sphere of influence in the balkans as it was under the Ottomans.But he forgets the fact there is a new balance of power in the balkans with Russia again regaining its central role in the balkans.

Very serious indeed....actually patient is terminal sick.

Lavrov knows that very well, that's why he pays the visit to Inzko.

Things should be sorted out before final separation of 3 ethnical groups in their separate states and in the interest of their future prospects.

And maybe in some distant future, 3 nations will be having a will to develop some constructive friendly relation.
But it won't happen soon...not any time soon. Wounds of that civil war will not heal in the course of human lifetime.

Nice comments from "Van der Serbia" and my country mate Nikos.
I think the "slav/Serb" part in Bosnian Muslims mentality is something positive.
Those people do not differ from the rest of Yugoslavs at all.
However their muslim part has been a real disaster.

As a 3rd party observer, i think that Serbia-Bosnia-CG are highly compatible and that to a slightly lesser degree Croatia and FYROM are compatible as well.
I also think FYROMians are Orthodox "balkanized" Slovenes.
That said, i dont think that Slovenia or Bulgaria are that different.

He also said that his country would support any agreement reached by the three constituent peoples in Bosnia. That is total nonsense it should get rid of the stupid entity's. let the people have their democratic vote the Moslem's ,Serbs or Croatians are not a majority if something makes sense people are smart enough to chose it. Overrule this entity's divisive nonsense how long is this problem will be allowed to fester its not working the entity's abolish them. Then let all of Bosnian people decide like all multy ethnic country's decide Bosnians have more in common then not. Their are to many outside of Bosnia that are enjoying keeping this going for their geopolitical nonsense at the expense of Bosnian people they should be ashamed and sanctioned the war mongers.

The RS is economically prosperous and growing because Milorad Dodik, with the help of Serbia proper, is moving forward, but the Croats are bogged down with the Bosniaks and they will never allow them to separate. The Croats will in a couple of years be only a minority and not one of three peoples that signed up to the Dayton Agreement.

In reality the entire Bosnia is a big welfare hole simply because the EU funds the two main Governments, RS and B&C Federation. As far as Turkey is concerned it’s a third world country regardless of how it’s being portrayed by the EU or US.

The real test whether Turkey is an industrialised nation is to open EU doors and allow free movement and see how many Turks stay home. Turkey is stretching too far out of its comfort zone if it thinks it will have any ‘influence’ in the Balkans and anyway the only ‘influence’ will be with the Bosniaks, but if it can’t fund them then how are they going be a big player in the region.

Turkey receives huge amounts of aid from the EU itself. Russia is certainly becoming a big player and what role they will play only time will tell, but I’d rather have them than the EU or US.

Remember there is no ‘Croat-Serb’ anything and there never will be. Serbs have learned their lesson to the tune of 800,000+ in WW11 and the Croats are on their own. It’s funny when things get tough the Croats say ‘we’re brothers, Christians” but at the earliest opportunity it’s the knife in the back.

The same applied just after WW1, we had Ante Pavelic pleading with Serbs to let Croats join Yugoslavia and within a decade they were creating havoc and the rest is history. No more brotherhood and unity, it will be Serbia for the Serbs and the rest can look after itself.

"there are no signs of improvement".

Today Bosnia is partially divided and still the situation is serious. Haven't the three peoples clearely shown they don't want a life together? Remember what happend the last time muslims tried to exercise their influence on the rest of the population. If the West wants to avoid another bloody war let the people make their own choice before it is too late.

"the transition of Office of the High representative (OHR) to the Office of EU Special representative (EUSR)"

So no vote, no democracy, just taken over by the EU plain and simple and in the open. I consider that an Act of War against Bosnia, an illegal EU occupation.

War ended 15 years ago guys. When will the occupation end? Never?

Serbia is soooooo lucky Milosevic refused to let the "West" occupy all of Serbia.

The old story, RS is prosperous the federation is a 'welfare hole'- the reason for such? RS has 'sold the farm' to the Russians and the Serbs and maintains control of significant pastoral regions and business enterprises it 'claimed' in the 'take-over' whilst leaving a trail of destruction in all the other areas. The list of destroyed infrastructure is monumental, it is a Herculean task to begin to build these destroyed factories, apartments, bridges, religious centres, whereas RS made sure it protected those assets it planned to use. The loans from Serbia and Russia have paid for the extravagance of the RS administrative centres but soon it will be pay back time.
Bosnia cannot afford the imposed administrative guidelines of Dayton, RS ignores these and of course can make effective decisions from a unified centralized executive to develop its enterprises. The EU should show real support and end the ridiculous division within the country, unify, reconcile, centralise and progress. It is true BH is under a form of occupation but it is not the EU that is the occupying power. Let Bosnia be for its citizens, let the prodigal nationalists go home to their motherlands of Serbia 'proper' and Croatia, they have done enough damage.

Yesterday Inzko said: Now is the right moment to invest in Bosnia. Today he says it is dangerous. Maybe he should show a drug test.

Inzko: Situation in Bosnia "serious"
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Serious for whom? I don't hear any Serbians complaining.

uh oh! i wonder what dodik will have to say to lavrov about inzko and the gang... putin will not to be pleased.

The day of political reckoning for the bosnian moslem authorities in Sarajevo is coming.

They have publicly expressed their fear of the OHR leaving as they 'need protection'. What they are really afraid of is that without the OHR to complain to every time and blame the Serbs for all Bosnia's ills, they will actually have no excuse left to give to their voters why they have not improved the economy, tackled political and economic corruption, provided jobs and even leadership. They'll show themselves to be just the corrupt, self-serving and ineffectual politicians that they are and be kicked out of office. Hopefully they'll be replaced by professional, efficient and normal politicians who can provide their citizens with stability.

"there are no signs of improvement".

Today Bosnia is partially divided and still the situation is serious. Haven't the three peoples clearely shown they don't want a life together? Remember what happend the last time muslims tried to exercise their influence on the rest of the population. If the West wants to avoid another bloody war let the people make their own choice before it is too late.

The RS is economically prosperous and growing because Milorad Dodik, with the help of Serbia proper, is moving forward, but the Croats are bogged down with the Bosniaks and they will never allow them to separate. The Croats will in a couple of years be only a minority and not one of three peoples that signed up to the Dayton Agreement.

In reality the entire Bosnia is a big welfare hole simply because the EU funds the two main Governments, RS and B&C Federation. As far as Turkey is concerned it’s a third world country regardless of how it’s being portrayed by the EU or US.

The real test whether Turkey is an industrialised nation is to open EU doors and allow free movement and see how many Turks stay home. Turkey is stretching too far out of its comfort zone if it thinks it will have any ‘influence’ in the Balkans and anyway the only ‘influence’ will be with the Bosniaks, but if it can’t fund them then how are they going be a big player in the region.

Turkey receives huge amounts of aid from the EU itself. Russia is certainly becoming a big player and what role they will play only time will tell, but I’d rather have them than the EU or US.

Remember there is no ‘Croat-Serb’ anything and there never will be. Serbs have learned their lesson to the tune of 800,000+ in WW11 and the Croats are on their own. It’s funny when things get tough the Croats say ‘we’re brothers, Christians” but at the earliest opportunity it’s the knife in the back.

The same applied just after WW1, we had Ante Pavelic pleading with Serbs to let Croats join Yugoslavia and within a decade they were creating havoc and the rest is history. No more brotherhood and unity, it will be Serbia for the Serbs and the rest can look after itself.

Nice comments from "Van der Serbia" and my country mate Nikos.
I think the "slav/Serb" part in Bosnian Muslims mentality is something positive.
Those people do not differ from the rest of Yugoslavs at all.
However their muslim part has been a real disaster.

As a 3rd party observer, i think that Serbia-Bosnia-CG are highly compatible and that to a slightly lesser degree Croatia and FYROM are compatible as well.
I also think FYROMians are Orthodox "balkanized" Slovenes.
That said, i dont think that Slovenia or Bulgaria are that different.

Inzko: Situation in Bosnia "serious"
--
Serious for whom? I don't hear any Serbians complaining.

The western backers of Bosnia
together with its Islamic sponsors prefer the present stalemate and they would rather continue the same disastrous policies of the 1990s than move forward.

The main problem with Bosnia is that it cannot exist as a multicultural nation.It has survived until today because of the degree of autonomy Drayton had given to the three constituent parts.

Economically both Serbs and Croats are prosperous and growing. The central Moslem area is one big welfare hole for foreign aid and Islamic "charities". The Moslems would like to get their hands on the Croat-Serb economy or go back to the situation under the Ottoman Empire when the Moslem upper class and city dwellers were fed and subsidized by the officially second-class Christian population.

No wonder the Turkish foreign
Minister Davutoglou talks about Turkey restoring its sphere of influence in the balkans as it was under the Ottomans.But he forgets the fact there is a new balance of power in the balkans with Russia again regaining its central role in the balkans.

Very serious indeed....actually patient is terminal sick.

Lavrov knows that very well, that's why he pays the visit to Inzko.

Things should be sorted out before final separation of 3 ethnical groups in their separate states and in the interest of their future prospects.

And maybe in some distant future, 3 nations will be having a will to develop some constructive friendly relation.
But it won't happen soon...not any time soon. Wounds of that civil war will not heal in the course of human lifetime.

Yesterday Inzko said: Now is the right moment to invest in Bosnia. Today he says it is dangerous. Maybe he should show a drug test.

The day of political reckoning for the bosnian moslem authorities in Sarajevo is coming.

They have publicly expressed their fear of the OHR leaving as they 'need protection'. What they are really afraid of is that without the OHR to complain to every time and blame the Serbs for all Bosnia's ills, they will actually have no excuse left to give to their voters why they have not improved the economy, tackled political and economic corruption, provided jobs and even leadership. They'll show themselves to be just the corrupt, self-serving and ineffectual politicians that they are and be kicked out of office. Hopefully they'll be replaced by professional, efficient and normal politicians who can provide their citizens with stability.

"the transition of Office of the High representative (OHR) to the Office of EU Special representative (EUSR)"

So no vote, no democracy, just taken over by the EU plain and simple and in the open. I consider that an Act of War against Bosnia, an illegal EU occupation.

War ended 15 years ago guys. When will the occupation end? Never?

Serbia is soooooo lucky Milosevic refused to let the "West" occupy all of Serbia.

He also said that his country would support any agreement reached by the three constituent peoples in Bosnia. That is total nonsense it should get rid of the stupid entity's. let the people have their democratic vote the Moslem's ,Serbs or Croatians are not a majority if something makes sense people are smart enough to chose it. Overrule this entity's divisive nonsense how long is this problem will be allowed to fester its not working the entity's abolish them. Then let all of Bosnian people decide like all multy ethnic country's decide Bosnians have more in common then not. Their are to many outside of Bosnia that are enjoying keeping this going for their geopolitical nonsense at the expense of Bosnian people they should be ashamed and sanctioned the war mongers.

The old story, RS is prosperous the federation is a 'welfare hole'- the reason for such? RS has 'sold the farm' to the Russians and the Serbs and maintains control of significant pastoral regions and business enterprises it 'claimed' in the 'take-over' whilst leaving a trail of destruction in all the other areas. The list of destroyed infrastructure is monumental, it is a Herculean task to begin to build these destroyed factories, apartments, bridges, religious centres, whereas RS made sure it protected those assets it planned to use. The loans from Serbia and Russia have paid for the extravagance of the RS administrative centres but soon it will be pay back time.
Bosnia cannot afford the imposed administrative guidelines of Dayton, RS ignores these and of course can make effective decisions from a unified centralized executive to develop its enterprises. The EU should show real support and end the ridiculous division within the country, unify, reconcile, centralise and progress. It is true BH is under a form of occupation but it is not the EU that is the occupying power. Let Bosnia be for its citizens, let the prodigal nationalists go home to their motherlands of Serbia 'proper' and Croatia, they have done enough damage.

uh oh! i wonder what dodik will have to say to lavrov about inzko and the gang... putin will not to be pleased.