"Separate chain of command for Serbs"

"In other words that separate chain of command – that, I would say, slight separation from institutions – that will enable us to work, but not to have that unpleasant feeling that we are part of institutions of an independent state,"

This guy is delusional, no two was about it. Who cares what he wants? Cut off the salaries, have EU stop Serbia from using aid money to fund the illegal parallel structures and you'll find 3000 serbs if you want as cops. One chain of commenad, one customs, one justice system. 5% minority spread out in 2 million can't have separate systems: Croats, Montenegrins, Turks and Bosniaks will want theirs too.

In the entire article I have notice that Oliver never mentioned UNMIK-Police or UNMIK,period.

hm, I wonder what happened, did all of sudden reality sunk in?

"This guy is delusional, no two was about it. Who cares what he wants? Cut off the salaries, have EU stop Serbia from using aid money to fund the illegal parallel structures and you'll find 3000 serbs if you want as cops. One chain of commenad, one customs, one justice system. 5% minority spread out in 2 million can't have separate systems: Croats, Montenegrins, Turks and Bosniaks will want theirs too.
(Agim, 17 May 2009 12:22) "

Wow, and now you are dictating to the EU. Now that's delusional!

I don't see a problem with Serbians participating in the provincial Kosovo Police Force with our structures reporting to UNMIK while they protect Serbians and other non-Albanians. All roads lead to a functional partition anyway, in line with our more than autonomy less than independence offer with the Albanians having self rule.

Our Southern citizens (mainly of Albanian ethnicity) should not try to overstep this very generous offer. It would be far better for the temporary institutions in Pristina to start proper and realistic negotiations while the conditions for this still exist.

WOW!!! Srbs want a separate police.. well you will not have one. Was my answer to harsh for some here???
Albanians in Preshevo want a separate police too and that police must report directly to Prishtina.

I can promise you Ivanovic that it will never happend. Serbs made Bosnia an invalide state with different chain of commands. It will not happend in Kosovo. Accept that serbs are a very small minority in Kosovo and should have the right of a minority. If you refuse to accept that then move to Serbia where you can have a chain of command with your fellow people.

Kosovo is not a state where you can make shameless beginng.

In other words that separate chain of command – that, I would say, slight separation from institutions – that will enable us to work, but not to have that unpleasant feeling that we are part of institutions of an independent state," Ivanović was quoted as saying.

The KiM minister is either very naive or cleverly working under Western pressures. Serbs joining ANY of Pristina's illegal government institutions will take the Serbs down a very slippery slope, which is NOT the way to stand up and show the world that Kosovo's UDI is illegal. That is the West's "game plan"- to gradually weaken the Serbs by insisting upon recognizing their new "reality". Short term "carrots" do not produce long term peace.

Kosovo is not Bosnia where every etnicity have it's own President. We know what serbs have done with Bosnia and that is not going to happend in Kosovo.

"The sooner Kosovo Serbs accept the independent Kosovo as their home, and start behaving as its loyal citizens, the better for all.
(Henry Lienkamps, 17 May 2009 15:23)"

No way! K-Serbs are serbian citizens. And will be still serbian citizens!
If anybody cut part of Your country and create new illegal "independent" country - You need to be citizen of this new illegal country or mayby You need to be still citizen of Your country????

The sooner Kosovo Serbs accept the independent Kosovo as their home, and start behaving as its loyal citizens, the better for all.

"I can promise you Ivanovic that it will never happend. Serbs made Bosnia an invalide state with different chain of commands."

That second line of command will disappear in Bosnia soon. That's why Biden is visiting

Serbia and its representative Olivanovic are only interested only in undermining Kosova state. Kosova should establish full control of its territory will all possible means. Kosova is not short of people to defend its state.

'Our Southern citizens (mainly of Albanian ethnicity) should not try to overstep this very generous offer.'

Why not? They've been ignoring the same "offer" since 17 Feb 2008 with no problem. Given the unemployment rate in Kosova, there won't be any trouble in finding replacements, and the commanders won't have to worry about the new cops' allegiance.

Separatae chine of commands orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr we just fire all those serbs that don't show to work anymore. I think I like the later better.

''According to Oliver Ivanović, the government in Belgrade "insists" that Serbs should have a separate chain of command WITHIN the Kosovo police, KPS.''


Does this mean that you have reconized KPS as an legal instutuion of the independent state of Kosovo ? If the serbs work within KPS it means they will reconize Kosovo whethere they have it's own chain of command or not. KPS is made by the republic of Kosovo and if you work within it you live within Kosovo as a independent state.


I dont understand how a own chain of command is going to make Kosovo less independent or the serbs to feel better ?


But anyway you will never get an own chain of command in Kosovo. It is just a pathetic game Ivanovic is playing because of the 300 serbs policeofficers wich will soon be left out of work and without sallery. Now you feel the strengh of the republic of Kosovo and you should feel it good because Kosovo will allways be independent.

"Our Southern citizens (mainly of Albanian ethnicity) should not try to overstep this very generous offer."



Our northern citizens (mainly of Serb ethnicity) should have returned to work if they want their salaries.

As for a separate chain of command from Serbs...LOL. Good luck.

"That second line of command will disappear in Bosnia soon. That's why Biden is visiting
(Agim, 17 May 2009 17:21) "

Care to wager how soon is soon? My bet is that you will end up utterly embarrassed by presuming Biden is all powerful enough change Dayton which not even Bush or Obama can!

i got one question for neighbors:
would you like to help us to create same chain of commands where the living Albanians such as

1. East Kosova ( Presheva, Bujanovci, Medvegja)
2. Montenegro ( Ulqin, Tuz, Malesia, etc.)
3. fyrom North part of this fragile country
if those state countries will do same thing will for Albanians we are ready to do that and more than this,,,,

Albanians the reason you are where you find yourselves today is because the interests of two powerful states coincide with your aspirations at the moment and that is it. Show Serbs that you can behave like responsible and honest citizens of the world while you have the power to do so. If you are too rigid and nationalistic where will you go when the artificial power source melts away and the real
And pragmatic world returns? I can guarantee that while the US and Germany may not be waiting in Kosmet for you the Serbs have all the time in the world.
After the fake negotiations that is all you have left us.In the end we Serbs will be there for you my dear Albanians even if the West forgets you WE NEVER WILL! Remember you are in someone else’s house and your demands are bigger than your reach.The very things you refused from Serbs you are now demanding we take from you? Huh

I don't see a problem with Serbians participating in the provincial Kosovo Police Force with our structures reporting to UNMIK while they protect Serbians and other non-Albanians. All roads lead to a functional partition anyway, in line with our more than autonomy less than independence offer with the Albanians having self rule.

Our Southern citizens (mainly of Albanian ethnicity) should not try to overstep this very generous offer. It would be far better for the temporary institutions in Pristina to start proper and realistic negotiations while the conditions for this still exist.

"In other words that separate chain of command – that, I would say, slight separation from institutions – that will enable us to work, but not to have that unpleasant feeling that we are part of institutions of an independent state,"

This guy is delusional, no two was about it. Who cares what he wants? Cut off the salaries, have EU stop Serbia from using aid money to fund the illegal parallel structures and you'll find 3000 serbs if you want as cops. One chain of commenad, one customs, one justice system. 5% minority spread out in 2 million can't have separate systems: Croats, Montenegrins, Turks and Bosniaks will want theirs too.

WOW!!! Srbs want a separate police.. well you will not have one. Was my answer to harsh for some here???
Albanians in Preshevo want a separate police too and that police must report directly to Prishtina.

In the entire article I have notice that Oliver never mentioned UNMIK-Police or UNMIK,period.

hm, I wonder what happened, did all of sudden reality sunk in?

The sooner Kosovo Serbs accept the independent Kosovo as their home, and start behaving as its loyal citizens, the better for all.

I can promise you Ivanovic that it will never happend. Serbs made Bosnia an invalide state with different chain of commands. It will not happend in Kosovo. Accept that serbs are a very small minority in Kosovo and should have the right of a minority. If you refuse to accept that then move to Serbia where you can have a chain of command with your fellow people.

Kosovo is not a state where you can make shameless beginng.

Kosovo is not Bosnia where every etnicity have it's own President. We know what serbs have done with Bosnia and that is not going to happend in Kosovo.

Separatae chine of commands orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr we just fire all those serbs that don't show to work anymore. I think I like the later better.

"I can promise you Ivanovic that it will never happend. Serbs made Bosnia an invalide state with different chain of commands."

That second line of command will disappear in Bosnia soon. That's why Biden is visiting

'Our Southern citizens (mainly of Albanian ethnicity) should not try to overstep this very generous offer.'

Why not? They've been ignoring the same "offer" since 17 Feb 2008 with no problem. Given the unemployment rate in Kosova, there won't be any trouble in finding replacements, and the commanders won't have to worry about the new cops' allegiance.

"This guy is delusional, no two was about it. Who cares what he wants? Cut off the salaries, have EU stop Serbia from using aid money to fund the illegal parallel structures and you'll find 3000 serbs if you want as cops. One chain of commenad, one customs, one justice system. 5% minority spread out in 2 million can't have separate systems: Croats, Montenegrins, Turks and Bosniaks will want theirs too.
(Agim, 17 May 2009 12:22) "

Wow, and now you are dictating to the EU. Now that's delusional!

''According to Oliver Ivanović, the government in Belgrade "insists" that Serbs should have a separate chain of command WITHIN the Kosovo police, KPS.''


Does this mean that you have reconized KPS as an legal instutuion of the independent state of Kosovo ? If the serbs work within KPS it means they will reconize Kosovo whethere they have it's own chain of command or not. KPS is made by the republic of Kosovo and if you work within it you live within Kosovo as a independent state.


I dont understand how a own chain of command is going to make Kosovo less independent or the serbs to feel better ?


But anyway you will never get an own chain of command in Kosovo. It is just a pathetic game Ivanovic is playing because of the 300 serbs policeofficers wich will soon be left out of work and without sallery. Now you feel the strengh of the republic of Kosovo and you should feel it good because Kosovo will allways be independent.

"Our Southern citizens (mainly of Albanian ethnicity) should not try to overstep this very generous offer."



Our northern citizens (mainly of Serb ethnicity) should have returned to work if they want their salaries.

As for a separate chain of command from Serbs...LOL. Good luck.

"The sooner Kosovo Serbs accept the independent Kosovo as their home, and start behaving as its loyal citizens, the better for all.
(Henry Lienkamps, 17 May 2009 15:23)"

No way! K-Serbs are serbian citizens. And will be still serbian citizens!
If anybody cut part of Your country and create new illegal "independent" country - You need to be citizen of this new illegal country or mayby You need to be still citizen of Your country????

In other words that separate chain of command – that, I would say, slight separation from institutions – that will enable us to work, but not to have that unpleasant feeling that we are part of institutions of an independent state," Ivanović was quoted as saying.

The KiM minister is either very naive or cleverly working under Western pressures. Serbs joining ANY of Pristina's illegal government institutions will take the Serbs down a very slippery slope, which is NOT the way to stand up and show the world that Kosovo's UDI is illegal. That is the West's "game plan"- to gradually weaken the Serbs by insisting upon recognizing their new "reality". Short term "carrots" do not produce long term peace.

"That second line of command will disappear in Bosnia soon. That's why Biden is visiting
(Agim, 17 May 2009 17:21) "

Care to wager how soon is soon? My bet is that you will end up utterly embarrassed by presuming Biden is all powerful enough change Dayton which not even Bush or Obama can!

Serbia and its representative Olivanovic are only interested only in undermining Kosova state. Kosova should establish full control of its territory will all possible means. Kosova is not short of people to defend its state.

i got one question for neighbors:
would you like to help us to create same chain of commands where the living Albanians such as

1. East Kosova ( Presheva, Bujanovci, Medvegja)
2. Montenegro ( Ulqin, Tuz, Malesia, etc.)
3. fyrom North part of this fragile country
if those state countries will do same thing will for Albanians we are ready to do that and more than this,,,,

Albanians the reason you are where you find yourselves today is because the interests of two powerful states coincide with your aspirations at the moment and that is it. Show Serbs that you can behave like responsible and honest citizens of the world while you have the power to do so. If you are too rigid and nationalistic where will you go when the artificial power source melts away and the real
And pragmatic world returns? I can guarantee that while the US and Germany may not be waiting in Kosmet for you the Serbs have all the time in the world.
After the fake negotiations that is all you have left us.In the end we Serbs will be there for you my dear Albanians even if the West forgets you WE NEVER WILL! Remember you are in someone else’s house and your demands are bigger than your reach.The very things you refused from Serbs you are now demanding we take from you? Huh