Jeremić: Indonesia won't recognize Kosovo

The world's largest countries do not recognize Kosovo and support Serbia.

1. India
2. Russia
3. China
4. Indonesia
5. Brazil
6. Spain

Just these six countries make up over 60% of the entire world's population. But what is most significant is that the world most populated Muslim country supports Serbia's fight for justice and international law and to date 90% of the Arab counties have not recognized Kosovo either. Plus there are in fact 3 super powers in the World and not just one! And two of the three super powers (China and Russia) support Serbia. We are now 6 weeks into Kosovo illegally declared Independence and only 34 countries have recognized it. The number of countries that will recognize Kosovo will probably not exceed 40 to 45, that will be less than 25% of the world's countries and less than 15% of the world's overall population!

So when the EU and US speaks of Russia and Serbia isolating themselves because of Kosovo, its a load of nonsense, the fact is that the US and EU are isolated and not the other way around!

Thank You Vietnam!

Thank you Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina, Chile, Egypt, etc, etc. need I go on.

Now all that is needed is the World Court to declare that Pristina's UDI is illegal and what a right fool Bush and Solana will look.

Just like an Albanian Serb does when a country recognizes Kosovo's UDI.

I will do the same.

Thank you! Indonesia

On 27 March 2008 16:45, Benny wrote: "Indonesia will eventually recognize Kosovo"

No it will not. Read on to understand why.

On 27 March 2008 16:52, Canadian wrote:

"The world's largest countries do not recognize Kosovo and support Serbia." ... "But what is most significant is that the world most populated Muslim country supports Serbia's fight for justice and international law"

Sorry Canadian, but this is NOT about supporting Serbia's fight for justice. It is about curbing internal secession attempts.

1) India has problems with Muslims in the northern Kashmir province that wants Kashmir to either go independent or join up with Pakistan.

2) Russia has problems with several regions trying to break free.

3) China - do I need to mention Tibet?

4) Indonesia has problems with militants and rebels in the Ache province that wants independence.

5) Brazil - ??? I don't know. I guess their president Lula da Silva simply enjoys to chance to say Nah-nah to George Bush.

6) Spain has the Basques and to a lesser degree Catalania that want nothing more than to declare their independence.

So you see, it is NOT about supporting Serbia. It is about protecting their own interests. Turning the blind eye to this fact only sets you up for an even greater disappointment when the so called support suddenly evaporates.

Here is an article from The Times published last week...

Regarding the recognition of Kosovo and how statements, even from the EU chief in Kosovo have changed:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3586851.ece

So you see, it is NOT about supporting Serbia. It is about protecting their own interests. Turning the blind eye to this fact only sets you up for an even greater disappointment when the so called support suddenly evaporates.
(Jan Andersen, DK, 27 March 2008 18:15)

Einstein would have been proud of you, why not link the other side of the puzzle?

Why do you think the US is so adamant to support the Kosovo Albanians?

It NOT human rights although that is the prima facia for the American masses to absorb.

Just follow the money and it will give you the answer:

(1) Camp Bondsteel and secure access to the Caucauses Oil Basin. Kosovo Albanians are proven to say "Yes" from the masses and that is exactly what the Kosovo Albanians will give them. There is no room for "NO" , in other words a true sovereign country and democracy.

"It is of great importance that we agreed today that the Kosovo problem is not a religious but purely an ethnic and political issue," said Jeremić.

You mean there's not going be a new Moslem Terrorist State in Europe like the Serbs warned us all along? Then what's stopping Serbia from recognizing the Independence of Kosova?

good news, since that means that the US-albanian propaganda card-house in regard to the "muslim-hating Serbs" is collapsing...

bravo Indonesia, my respect for this reasonable decision.

Wow I am suprissed to read now that Mr. Jeremic says this is no religius problem? untill now they have sad their muslims and the west is creating a muslim teorist country? now they speak with muslim country suddenly it's NOT religius? but inshallah my dear Serb neighbours with gods will you will see soon a new wave of recognition by many muslim country? South Korea and Belgium has confirmed they will recognize Kosova...

This is a notorious lie. Indonesia isn't 100% against independent Kosovo. In fact, there are big discussions about recognising or not the newest state. Jeremic, I'm glad that you accepted that serbian propaganda has been lying for a such a long time, that albanians are mujahedins and linked to al qaeda

Jeremic is aksing help from Muslim countries not to recongize the muslim country in Europe, Kosovo, becasue that poses a threat to European values and security. How many times have we heard this from the Serb and Russian officials. Well, the opposition of Muslim countries to recognize the Kosovo and its recognition by Euroepan states goes to show which club Kosovo belongs to.

Time to clear up a few errors.
Jan Andersen, DK, 27 March 2008 18:15 wrote:
"4) Indonesia has problems with militants and rebels in the Ache province that wants independence. "

Indonesia may have had problems with separatists from the Free Aceh Movement (GAM) since the 1970s but there has been a peace agreement since 2005.

Interestingly the mediator for the peace talks was Martti Ahtisaari who we all know and love. Ahtisaari managed to convince GAM the best they could get was special autonomy within Indonesia. Yet the Indonesian army committed far worse atrocities against the Achenese than the Serbs did to Albanians in Kosovo.

According to Ahtisaari, the Serbs had lost the moral right to rule in Kosovo. Strangely he never used this argument to support Aceh's secession from Indonesia. Instead he was firmly committed to Indonesia's territorial integrity.

So, Mr Andersen, the Indonesian's have nothing to worry about Achenee separatism anymore do they? After all the Indonesian government signed a peace agreement mediated by Martti Ahtisaari guaranteeing their territorial integrity. Surely they have nothing to worry about from Separatists anymore do they?

Linda states that Mr Jeremic has a nice job. Yes indeed. As does every Foreign Minister from every country. Do you not think the US and EU sent their high ranking diplomats around the world to lobby countries in order to support the illegal declaration of "(in)dependence" by Kosovo?

Jeremic- we know that, and we know why ;))

Strange how a Muslim Indonesia wont recognize a "Muslim" country as Kosova.

My comment on all this would be citing an old proverb saying:

“Is a glass half empty, or half full?”

In Kosova case the glass is half full, as just few months ago was completely empty, and is
slowly but for sure getting full.

Otherwise, it is a great achievement to, just in one month, be recognized by more than 30 countries (to be more precise recognized by 33 countries so far) mostly by EU countries, but as well as by Canada USA, Japan etc. So yet to come are African countries (as a number of course) and not all Muslim countries (as a number as well) apart of some influence power countries. There is also to com not all Latino American countries, and not all Asian countries, what will surely make sufficient number to Kosova become a UN member as well, even though is not important for Kosova (just to refresh your mind for example Swiss federation has joined UN only in 2002, Germany only in 1973 etc etc).

It seems Mr. Jeremic is enjoying his tour to different countries befroe his mandate is over. To me all this is pointless, because I am sure that just a year from now Serbia itself is going to recognize the independence of Kosova. Other options have been deemed unsuccessful and are not supported by political and economical powers of the West. And, West is the direction which Serbia is headed to, right?
Liri, Canada

Yes yes Ana but still remeber according too the Serbs we Albanians in Kosova harbour Al-Qaida and we are the nasty muslims that you are fighting aggainst protecting the west?

Liri,

Yes, the only one, who will profit of these trips is Jeremic. His mandate is soon over but in the mean time he will see a lot of countries courtesy of Serbia.
Who said that there is no such thing as a free lunch?

For Enis, belokapaca, Elton, ben and etc...

Some more analysis on your country and the "Serbian" propaganda:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/112945/page/2

wait till next month australia tell them the truth. How quickly will they change their opinion and ruin Mr Vuk's magic carpet ride.

What a nice job Mr. Jeremic has!

Two more countries that won't recognize the NATO statelet in despite of US armtwisting.
Thank you Indonesia!
Thank you Vietnam!

This is not really news. Indonesia said this long time ago. None the less, it does serve Jeremic a bit as a small political victory for those that are not that informed.

Indonesia will eventually recognize Kosovo. It may not be this year, but I think that once more than half the UN member states recognize Kosovo and the majority of the OIC nations, Indonesia will follow suit if no internal troubles of its own ensue.

i got to ask every american how would you feel if the latino spanish say they want to b independent like in florida and california ? will you allow that like you are allowing kosovo to b independent from serbia ?

Dear Adriano,
Do you mean Austria or Australia?
I think Australia (my country)was the first country to accept independence.

Do Serbian planes run on water because these trips are wasting serious Serbian dollars.

Couldn't he pick nations close to Serbia? Its' neighbors? He keeps taking trips at the opposite of the world. Is Vietnam next on his list?

Indonesia will no jeoperdize its most important military and trade ally with the US. The US vs Serbia, it is very obvious which directions Indonesia will choose. Besides, there is a large support in the Indonesia political circles and Congress supporting the New Independent republic. Sure, Mr. Jermic can try to do whatver it wants, but it only helps our political moves and it is as we speak, indirectly.

Kosovo is and will always be serbia.many reasons why>
1. kosovo can not join nato or the eu!Romania,Greece,Spain,Cyprus, and slovakia will all veto the entry or candidatcy of kosovo just like Greece solely has vetoed macedonia from joining nato.
2.we have Un security council backing because 150 countries have said they want a kosovo in serbia or they want more negotiations between the provine and serbia.plus we have china and russia on serbian side which hold veto power.
3.We have many major world powers on our side:
Russia,china,India,Spain,
Indonesia,&Brazil. to a lesser extent as major powers we have Greece,Portugal,Egypt,Libya,
Algeria,Argentina,Ukraine,
Israel.
4. serbia has said it will fight diplomatically for kosovo for the next five years. what is gonna happen after that? serbia will invade kosovo because after 5 years of diplomacy they will not just give it up.serbia will be backed by the security council because military action is acceptable when protecting the integrity of a country.

Wow I am suprissed to read now that Mr. Jeremic says this is no religius problem? untill now they have sad their muslims and the west is creating a muslim teorist country? now they speak with muslim country suddenly it's NOT religius? but inshallah my dear Serb neighbours with gods will you will see soon a new wave of recognition by many muslim country? South Korea and Belgium has confirmed they will recognize Kosova...

This is a notorious lie. Indonesia isn't 100% against independent Kosovo. In fact, there are big discussions about recognising or not the newest state. Jeremic, I'm glad that you accepted that serbian propaganda has been lying for a such a long time, that albanians are mujahedins and linked to al qaeda

It seems Mr. Jeremic is enjoying his tour to different countries befroe his mandate is over. To me all this is pointless, because I am sure that just a year from now Serbia itself is going to recognize the independence of Kosova. Other options have been deemed unsuccessful and are not supported by political and economical powers of the West. And, West is the direction which Serbia is headed to, right?
Liri, Canada

My comment on all this would be citing an old proverb saying:

“Is a glass half empty, or half full?”

In Kosova case the glass is half full, as just few months ago was completely empty, and is
slowly but for sure getting full.

Otherwise, it is a great achievement to, just in one month, be recognized by more than 30 countries (to be more precise recognized by 33 countries so far) mostly by EU countries, but as well as by Canada USA, Japan etc. So yet to come are African countries (as a number of course) and not all Muslim countries (as a number as well) apart of some influence power countries. There is also to com not all Latino American countries, and not all Asian countries, what will surely make sufficient number to Kosova become a UN member as well, even though is not important for Kosova (just to refresh your mind for example Swiss federation has joined UN only in 2002, Germany only in 1973 etc etc).

"It is of great importance that we agreed today that the Kosovo problem is not a religious but purely an ethnic and political issue," said Jeremić.

You mean there's not going be a new Moslem Terrorist State in Europe like the Serbs warned us all along? Then what's stopping Serbia from recognizing the Independence of Kosova?

This is not really news. Indonesia said this long time ago. None the less, it does serve Jeremic a bit as a small political victory for those that are not that informed.

Indonesia will eventually recognize Kosovo. It may not be this year, but I think that once more than half the UN member states recognize Kosovo and the majority of the OIC nations, Indonesia will follow suit if no internal troubles of its own ensue.

Jeremic- we know that, and we know why ;))

Strange how a Muslim Indonesia wont recognize a "Muslim" country as Kosova.

Liri,

Yes, the only one, who will profit of these trips is Jeremic. His mandate is soon over but in the mean time he will see a lot of countries courtesy of Serbia.
Who said that there is no such thing as a free lunch?

On 27 March 2008 16:45, Benny wrote: "Indonesia will eventually recognize Kosovo"

No it will not. Read on to understand why.

On 27 March 2008 16:52, Canadian wrote:

"The world's largest countries do not recognize Kosovo and support Serbia." ... "But what is most significant is that the world most populated Muslim country supports Serbia's fight for justice and international law"

Sorry Canadian, but this is NOT about supporting Serbia's fight for justice. It is about curbing internal secession attempts.

1) India has problems with Muslims in the northern Kashmir province that wants Kashmir to either go independent or join up with Pakistan.

2) Russia has problems with several regions trying to break free.

3) China - do I need to mention Tibet?

4) Indonesia has problems with militants and rebels in the Ache province that wants independence.

5) Brazil - ??? I don't know. I guess their president Lula da Silva simply enjoys to chance to say Nah-nah to George Bush.

6) Spain has the Basques and to a lesser degree Catalania that want nothing more than to declare their independence.

So you see, it is NOT about supporting Serbia. It is about protecting their own interests. Turning the blind eye to this fact only sets you up for an even greater disappointment when the so called support suddenly evaporates.

Thank You Vietnam!

Here is an article from The Times published last week...

Regarding the recognition of Kosovo and how statements, even from the EU chief in Kosovo have changed:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3586851.ece

Thank you Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina, Chile, Egypt, etc, etc. need I go on.

Now all that is needed is the World Court to declare that Pristina's UDI is illegal and what a right fool Bush and Solana will look.

For Enis, belokapaca, Elton, ben and etc...

Some more analysis on your country and the "Serbian" propaganda:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/112945/page/2

The world's largest countries do not recognize Kosovo and support Serbia.

1. India
2. Russia
3. China
4. Indonesia
5. Brazil
6. Spain

Just these six countries make up over 60% of the entire world's population. But what is most significant is that the world most populated Muslim country supports Serbia's fight for justice and international law and to date 90% of the Arab counties have not recognized Kosovo either. Plus there are in fact 3 super powers in the World and not just one! And two of the three super powers (China and Russia) support Serbia. We are now 6 weeks into Kosovo illegally declared Independence and only 34 countries have recognized it. The number of countries that will recognize Kosovo will probably not exceed 40 to 45, that will be less than 25% of the world's countries and less than 15% of the world's overall population!

So when the EU and US speaks of Russia and Serbia isolating themselves because of Kosovo, its a load of nonsense, the fact is that the US and EU are isolated and not the other way around!

So you see, it is NOT about supporting Serbia. It is about protecting their own interests. Turning the blind eye to this fact only sets you up for an even greater disappointment when the so called support suddenly evaporates.
(Jan Andersen, DK, 27 March 2008 18:15)

Einstein would have been proud of you, why not link the other side of the puzzle?

Why do you think the US is so adamant to support the Kosovo Albanians?

It NOT human rights although that is the prima facia for the American masses to absorb.

Just follow the money and it will give you the answer:

(1) Camp Bondsteel and secure access to the Caucauses Oil Basin. Kosovo Albanians are proven to say "Yes" from the masses and that is exactly what the Kosovo Albanians will give them. There is no room for "NO" , in other words a true sovereign country and democracy.

good news, since that means that the US-albanian propaganda card-house in regard to the "muslim-hating Serbs" is collapsing...

bravo Indonesia, my respect for this reasonable decision.

Time to clear up a few errors.
Jan Andersen, DK, 27 March 2008 18:15 wrote:
"4) Indonesia has problems with militants and rebels in the Ache province that wants independence. "

Indonesia may have had problems with separatists from the Free Aceh Movement (GAM) since the 1970s but there has been a peace agreement since 2005.

Interestingly the mediator for the peace talks was Martti Ahtisaari who we all know and love. Ahtisaari managed to convince GAM the best they could get was special autonomy within Indonesia. Yet the Indonesian army committed far worse atrocities against the Achenese than the Serbs did to Albanians in Kosovo.

According to Ahtisaari, the Serbs had lost the moral right to rule in Kosovo. Strangely he never used this argument to support Aceh's secession from Indonesia. Instead he was firmly committed to Indonesia's territorial integrity.

So, Mr Andersen, the Indonesian's have nothing to worry about Achenee separatism anymore do they? After all the Indonesian government signed a peace agreement mediated by Martti Ahtisaari guaranteeing their territorial integrity. Surely they have nothing to worry about from Separatists anymore do they?

Linda states that Mr Jeremic has a nice job. Yes indeed. As does every Foreign Minister from every country. Do you not think the US and EU sent their high ranking diplomats around the world to lobby countries in order to support the illegal declaration of "(in)dependence" by Kosovo?

Yes yes Ana but still remeber according too the Serbs we Albanians in Kosova harbour Al-Qaida and we are the nasty muslims that you are fighting aggainst protecting the west?

Just like an Albanian Serb does when a country recognizes Kosovo's UDI.

I will do the same.

Thank you! Indonesia

wait till next month australia tell them the truth. How quickly will they change their opinion and ruin Mr Vuk's magic carpet ride.

Two more countries that won't recognize the NATO statelet in despite of US armtwisting.
Thank you Indonesia!
Thank you Vietnam!

Do Serbian planes run on water because these trips are wasting serious Serbian dollars.

Couldn't he pick nations close to Serbia? Its' neighbors? He keeps taking trips at the opposite of the world. Is Vietnam next on his list?

Dear Adriano,
Do you mean Austria or Australia?
I think Australia (my country)was the first country to accept independence.

Jeremic is aksing help from Muslim countries not to recongize the muslim country in Europe, Kosovo, becasue that poses a threat to European values and security. How many times have we heard this from the Serb and Russian officials. Well, the opposition of Muslim countries to recognize the Kosovo and its recognition by Euroepan states goes to show which club Kosovo belongs to.

What a nice job Mr. Jeremic has!

Indonesia will no jeoperdize its most important military and trade ally with the US. The US vs Serbia, it is very obvious which directions Indonesia will choose. Besides, there is a large support in the Indonesia political circles and Congress supporting the New Independent republic. Sure, Mr. Jermic can try to do whatver it wants, but it only helps our political moves and it is as we speak, indirectly.

i got to ask every american how would you feel if the latino spanish say they want to b independent like in florida and california ? will you allow that like you are allowing kosovo to b independent from serbia ?

Kosovo is and will always be serbia.many reasons why>
1. kosovo can not join nato or the eu!Romania,Greece,Spain,Cyprus, and slovakia will all veto the entry or candidatcy of kosovo just like Greece solely has vetoed macedonia from joining nato.
2.we have Un security council backing because 150 countries have said they want a kosovo in serbia or they want more negotiations between the provine and serbia.plus we have china and russia on serbian side which hold veto power.
3.We have many major world powers on our side:
Russia,china,India,Spain,
Indonesia,&Brazil. to a lesser extent as major powers we have Greece,Portugal,Egypt,Libya,
Algeria,Argentina,Ukraine,
Israel.
4. serbia has said it will fight diplomatically for kosovo for the next five years. what is gonna happen after that? serbia will invade kosovo because after 5 years of diplomacy they will not just give it up.serbia will be backed by the security council because military action is acceptable when protecting the integrity of a country.