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Thursday, 27.03.2008.

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Rupel: New visa regime before elections

Slovenia's FM Dimitrij Rupel says one of the chief topics of Friday’s EU ministerial meeting will be the western Balkans.

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nick

pre 18 godina

Believe it or not, EU waants to promote the democracy in Serbia and to assure the Serbs live as the other Europeans. The visa regime is obviously an absurd anormality. It position on Kosovo is in no way contrary to the desire to democratise Serbia. I keep asking all who denounce the independence of Kosovo: " What about if the Kosovars vote in the May elections. How many Albanian MPs will be elected in the Skupstina? Will Serbia be governable? It is a rethorical Question. Look at Macedonia and say honestly that you in Serbia???

uli

pre 18 godina

B 92 dont cut my comments. I like to know what has been the contribution of Serbia to Eu and balkans in the last decate, for serbia to get this sorts of priviledges? None. Serbian government has created only tears in Balkans and they do not deserve this .

Ana

pre 18 godina

You will have to do much more than to issue visas to the holders of a Serbian passport...

Don't be so pathetic and do not underestimate us...

I will vote for the pro EU parties, but don't try to buy my vote with false statements...

I just can not stand the nationalist parties anywhere in the world and as a result, I can not stand them in Serbia as well...

Lenard

pre 18 godina

EU is trying to run shod over people of Serbia wishes and their normal common sense. Always trying to lay traps and entangling Serbia to put it under its nonsense control. Which will be very terminal to its existence and sovereignty to decide its future without interference. By the citizens of Serbia ,not by some hypocrites and technocrats in Brussels who could not give a dam about Serbia or its people. They only care of their careers and power arrogances they exercise and hold over others. Their actions to undermine Serbia talks volumes of their intense and agendas a organization to be very weary of.

Luigi

pre 18 godina

to Ben:
Try to upgrade your economic statistics ..
1)Southern Italy was and i repeat was a big beneficiary of Eu funds..BUT that happens many years ago now things have changed..
2)Since 9-10 years ago we have became net contribuitors of Eu BUDGET so we are in the same position of other countries that receive less than pay in taxes to the Eu pot..
3)Italy is in crisis but close to us i don't see many countries in good shape...
Take care

italy

pre 18 godina

I would also introduce visas for EU citizens entering Serbia, and not out of revolt but as a normal and fair move. If their governments show good will to relax with visas for Serbian citizens, as Rupel's discourse seems to show, I would do the same with them. I am sure that they would respect Serbia more at that point. As far as I know, the more "correctly" you treat Europeans, the weaker they become with you. Serbia is not doing good to be complacent with anyone if nothing comes in return.

ben

pre 18 godina

EU is in deep crisis now and must find his true roots looking back..When [we] were few...
(luigi, 27 March 2008 16:33)
[] added

Yess that's why many of EU bloggers here suggetsed to start with Italy as first to be excluded. And I don't hear this only on bloggs.

Luigi southern Italy was/is the main benefiter of the EU funds now I see you are afraid of competition- but man it's not your (Italian) money- so relax.

luigi

pre 18 godina

dear Ben:
Being a country of Europe is a thing..
Become a member of EU is totally another thing ..
EU is in deep crisis now and must find his true roots looking back..When we were few...

Roger7

pre 18 godina

Another bait and switch.

So, Mr. Rupel, if Serbia does what you want them to do by following your agenda, you just might help them out...or maybe we won't.

You are not fooling anyone, Mr. Rupel.

ben

pre 18 godina

"Rupel: New visa regime before elections"

Wipe them off- how can we develop if you put us in cottage???

Luigi: last time you was preaching Europeism you got your country wiped out form the EU by many EU bloggers here- you didn't learn the lesson???

Serbs and ALL Balkans are EUROPE- culturally, historically, geographically, politically, economically, socially etc....

As the Albanian poet KADARE says: if you take off the Balkans, Apennines and the Scandinavia there is nothing to be left from the European culture- capito Luigi?

bmrusila

pre 18 godina

Ha,ah,ha,ha,ha,!!! Oh God, they began already. I must avoid reading the statements coming from our European friends. I will actually avoid the entire election campaign because I am sick of everyone. Do they really think that Serbs are such fools to believe them any longer? Mr Rupel et al, I think that people already decided who to vote in elections and any trying to boost DS by offering Serbs carrots with long sticks won’t help making people change their mind. I will vote for the one who can always look at me in the eyes!

Felix, Romania

pre 18 godina

"The minister said that intercultural dialogue between Serbs and Albanians was of special important" - well in such case the Serbs would entertain a monologue, I'm afraid... since you've mentioned culture...

"Wednesday, he said that the union may soon offer Serbia a new, more favorable visa regime" - 100% AND unconditional (not linked to the outcome of the elections), to really prove your good intentions.

"Rupel said that the EU and the Russian Federation shared the same position regarding Iran, cooperation in the Middle East, policy towards North Korea, but did not agree on Kosovo “and the solution for the final part of the Yugoslav crisis.”... and a few other minor issues, of course.

Gee, this is so inconsistent, politicians these days are so amateurish really. They should not be allowed to get involved in politics unless they can demonstrate formal training.

Princip, UK

pre 18 godina

""The interim political agreement is still waiting to be signed. I will put my signature on it now, if the Serbs want me to," Rupel said"

I think Rupel knows what most Serbs would suggest to him about signing away Serbia's sovereign and territorial heartland and he knows where he can stick his pen and signature!

luigi

pre 18 godina

i don't know for whom Mr.Rupel is speaking !! Visa free for Serbs ? How many countries in EU are ready to accept this ? THIS IS PROPAGANDA !

Another Canadian Serb

pre 18 godina

Here we go again!
The same old speech is being released to the public. This speech always seems to be missing the line where the UDI of Kosovo will be reversed and that the international community promises to stop interfering with Serbia's internal affairs.

ZK UK

pre 18 godina

I'll be glad when Slovenia's EU presidency ends so this rubbish does not get published anymore. Slovenia and Rupel's opinion can then return to being irrelevant.

Princip, UK

pre 18 godina

""Slovenia wants to find an answer to the basic questions—how to help Serbia get closer to the European Union, how to handle the situation in Kosovo, while the role of the European EULEX mission there also interests us,” said the Slovenian foreign minister.
"

- if you truly meant that the answer would have been to respect Serbia's Sovereignity and territorial integrity which is based on international norms and laws.

Thus Rupel the solution is very simple - stick to respecting Serbia's sovereignity just as you would expect for Slovenia! If you cant then dont expect Serbia to be submissive in your illegality, ill-principled and indecent proposal!

Regarding the Illegal EU INLEX (Lawles) mission it is clear that the UN has not sanctioned nor requested it and given the illegal declaration by the ethnic Albanians then the EU is now clearly imposing partition within partition since no Serb will be held accountable to an illegal mission requested by & dictated by the ethnic Albanian mafiocracy who have ilegally declared Dependence on those who created it - NATO. One wonders if Thaci has been in the loop with this partition within partition that is being created as a solution by the US and EU? If he is then he is deceiving the ethnic Albanians who support him as he must be only too aware by now that US and EU cannot do as he wishes - that was very evident 10 days ago!

Oh what a tangled web we weave and how easily some have been deceveied...

Princip, UK

pre 18 godina

""Slovenia wants to find an answer to the basic questions—how to help Serbia get closer to the European Union, how to handle the situation in Kosovo, while the role of the European EULEX mission there also interests us,” said the Slovenian foreign minister.
"

- if you truly meant that the answer would have been to respect Serbia's Sovereignity and territorial integrity which is based on international norms and laws.

Thus Rupel the solution is very simple - stick to respecting Serbia's sovereignity just as you would expect for Slovenia! If you cant then dont expect Serbia to be submissive in your illegality, ill-principled and indecent proposal!

Regarding the Illegal EU INLEX (Lawles) mission it is clear that the UN has not sanctioned nor requested it and given the illegal declaration by the ethnic Albanians then the EU is now clearly imposing partition within partition since no Serb will be held accountable to an illegal mission requested by & dictated by the ethnic Albanian mafiocracy who have ilegally declared Dependence on those who created it - NATO. One wonders if Thaci has been in the loop with this partition within partition that is being created as a solution by the US and EU? If he is then he is deceiving the ethnic Albanians who support him as he must be only too aware by now that US and EU cannot do as he wishes - that was very evident 10 days ago!

Oh what a tangled web we weave and how easily some have been deceveied...

ZK UK

pre 18 godina

I'll be glad when Slovenia's EU presidency ends so this rubbish does not get published anymore. Slovenia and Rupel's opinion can then return to being irrelevant.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 18 godina

Here we go again!
The same old speech is being released to the public. This speech always seems to be missing the line where the UDI of Kosovo will be reversed and that the international community promises to stop interfering with Serbia's internal affairs.

Princip, UK

pre 18 godina

""The interim political agreement is still waiting to be signed. I will put my signature on it now, if the Serbs want me to," Rupel said"

I think Rupel knows what most Serbs would suggest to him about signing away Serbia's sovereign and territorial heartland and he knows where he can stick his pen and signature!

bmrusila

pre 18 godina

Ha,ah,ha,ha,ha,!!! Oh God, they began already. I must avoid reading the statements coming from our European friends. I will actually avoid the entire election campaign because I am sick of everyone. Do they really think that Serbs are such fools to believe them any longer? Mr Rupel et al, I think that people already decided who to vote in elections and any trying to boost DS by offering Serbs carrots with long sticks won’t help making people change their mind. I will vote for the one who can always look at me in the eyes!

Roger7

pre 18 godina

Another bait and switch.

So, Mr. Rupel, if Serbia does what you want them to do by following your agenda, you just might help them out...or maybe we won't.

You are not fooling anyone, Mr. Rupel.

Felix, Romania

pre 18 godina

"The minister said that intercultural dialogue between Serbs and Albanians was of special important" - well in such case the Serbs would entertain a monologue, I'm afraid... since you've mentioned culture...

"Wednesday, he said that the union may soon offer Serbia a new, more favorable visa regime" - 100% AND unconditional (not linked to the outcome of the elections), to really prove your good intentions.

"Rupel said that the EU and the Russian Federation shared the same position regarding Iran, cooperation in the Middle East, policy towards North Korea, but did not agree on Kosovo “and the solution for the final part of the Yugoslav crisis.”... and a few other minor issues, of course.

Gee, this is so inconsistent, politicians these days are so amateurish really. They should not be allowed to get involved in politics unless they can demonstrate formal training.

luigi

pre 18 godina

i don't know for whom Mr.Rupel is speaking !! Visa free for Serbs ? How many countries in EU are ready to accept this ? THIS IS PROPAGANDA !

Lenard

pre 18 godina

EU is trying to run shod over people of Serbia wishes and their normal common sense. Always trying to lay traps and entangling Serbia to put it under its nonsense control. Which will be very terminal to its existence and sovereignty to decide its future without interference. By the citizens of Serbia ,not by some hypocrites and technocrats in Brussels who could not give a dam about Serbia or its people. They only care of their careers and power arrogances they exercise and hold over others. Their actions to undermine Serbia talks volumes of their intense and agendas a organization to be very weary of.

italy

pre 18 godina

I would also introduce visas for EU citizens entering Serbia, and not out of revolt but as a normal and fair move. If their governments show good will to relax with visas for Serbian citizens, as Rupel's discourse seems to show, I would do the same with them. I am sure that they would respect Serbia more at that point. As far as I know, the more "correctly" you treat Europeans, the weaker they become with you. Serbia is not doing good to be complacent with anyone if nothing comes in return.

ben

pre 18 godina

"Rupel: New visa regime before elections"

Wipe them off- how can we develop if you put us in cottage???

Luigi: last time you was preaching Europeism you got your country wiped out form the EU by many EU bloggers here- you didn't learn the lesson???

Serbs and ALL Balkans are EUROPE- culturally, historically, geographically, politically, economically, socially etc....

As the Albanian poet KADARE says: if you take off the Balkans, Apennines and the Scandinavia there is nothing to be left from the European culture- capito Luigi?

luigi

pre 18 godina

dear Ben:
Being a country of Europe is a thing..
Become a member of EU is totally another thing ..
EU is in deep crisis now and must find his true roots looking back..When we were few...

Ana

pre 18 godina

You will have to do much more than to issue visas to the holders of a Serbian passport...

Don't be so pathetic and do not underestimate us...

I will vote for the pro EU parties, but don't try to buy my vote with false statements...

I just can not stand the nationalist parties anywhere in the world and as a result, I can not stand them in Serbia as well...

uli

pre 18 godina

B 92 dont cut my comments. I like to know what has been the contribution of Serbia to Eu and balkans in the last decate, for serbia to get this sorts of priviledges? None. Serbian government has created only tears in Balkans and they do not deserve this .

nick

pre 18 godina

Believe it or not, EU waants to promote the democracy in Serbia and to assure the Serbs live as the other Europeans. The visa regime is obviously an absurd anormality. It position on Kosovo is in no way contrary to the desire to democratise Serbia. I keep asking all who denounce the independence of Kosovo: " What about if the Kosovars vote in the May elections. How many Albanian MPs will be elected in the Skupstina? Will Serbia be governable? It is a rethorical Question. Look at Macedonia and say honestly that you in Serbia???

ben

pre 18 godina

EU is in deep crisis now and must find his true roots looking back..When [we] were few...
(luigi, 27 March 2008 16:33)
[] added

Yess that's why many of EU bloggers here suggetsed to start with Italy as first to be excluded. And I don't hear this only on bloggs.

Luigi southern Italy was/is the main benefiter of the EU funds now I see you are afraid of competition- but man it's not your (Italian) money- so relax.

Luigi

pre 18 godina

to Ben:
Try to upgrade your economic statistics ..
1)Southern Italy was and i repeat was a big beneficiary of Eu funds..BUT that happens many years ago now things have changed..
2)Since 9-10 years ago we have became net contribuitors of Eu BUDGET so we are in the same position of other countries that receive less than pay in taxes to the Eu pot..
3)Italy is in crisis but close to us i don't see many countries in good shape...
Take care

luigi

pre 18 godina

i don't know for whom Mr.Rupel is speaking !! Visa free for Serbs ? How many countries in EU are ready to accept this ? THIS IS PROPAGANDA !

ZK UK

pre 18 godina

I'll be glad when Slovenia's EU presidency ends so this rubbish does not get published anymore. Slovenia and Rupel's opinion can then return to being irrelevant.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 18 godina

Here we go again!
The same old speech is being released to the public. This speech always seems to be missing the line where the UDI of Kosovo will be reversed and that the international community promises to stop interfering with Serbia's internal affairs.

Princip, UK

pre 18 godina

""Slovenia wants to find an answer to the basic questions—how to help Serbia get closer to the European Union, how to handle the situation in Kosovo, while the role of the European EULEX mission there also interests us,” said the Slovenian foreign minister.
"

- if you truly meant that the answer would have been to respect Serbia's Sovereignity and territorial integrity which is based on international norms and laws.

Thus Rupel the solution is very simple - stick to respecting Serbia's sovereignity just as you would expect for Slovenia! If you cant then dont expect Serbia to be submissive in your illegality, ill-principled and indecent proposal!

Regarding the Illegal EU INLEX (Lawles) mission it is clear that the UN has not sanctioned nor requested it and given the illegal declaration by the ethnic Albanians then the EU is now clearly imposing partition within partition since no Serb will be held accountable to an illegal mission requested by & dictated by the ethnic Albanian mafiocracy who have ilegally declared Dependence on those who created it - NATO. One wonders if Thaci has been in the loop with this partition within partition that is being created as a solution by the US and EU? If he is then he is deceiving the ethnic Albanians who support him as he must be only too aware by now that US and EU cannot do as he wishes - that was very evident 10 days ago!

Oh what a tangled web we weave and how easily some have been deceveied...

Princip, UK

pre 18 godina

""The interim political agreement is still waiting to be signed. I will put my signature on it now, if the Serbs want me to," Rupel said"

I think Rupel knows what most Serbs would suggest to him about signing away Serbia's sovereign and territorial heartland and he knows where he can stick his pen and signature!

bmrusila

pre 18 godina

Ha,ah,ha,ha,ha,!!! Oh God, they began already. I must avoid reading the statements coming from our European friends. I will actually avoid the entire election campaign because I am sick of everyone. Do they really think that Serbs are such fools to believe them any longer? Mr Rupel et al, I think that people already decided who to vote in elections and any trying to boost DS by offering Serbs carrots with long sticks won’t help making people change their mind. I will vote for the one who can always look at me in the eyes!

Felix, Romania

pre 18 godina

"The minister said that intercultural dialogue between Serbs and Albanians was of special important" - well in such case the Serbs would entertain a monologue, I'm afraid... since you've mentioned culture...

"Wednesday, he said that the union may soon offer Serbia a new, more favorable visa regime" - 100% AND unconditional (not linked to the outcome of the elections), to really prove your good intentions.

"Rupel said that the EU and the Russian Federation shared the same position regarding Iran, cooperation in the Middle East, policy towards North Korea, but did not agree on Kosovo “and the solution for the final part of the Yugoslav crisis.”... and a few other minor issues, of course.

Gee, this is so inconsistent, politicians these days are so amateurish really. They should not be allowed to get involved in politics unless they can demonstrate formal training.

luigi

pre 18 godina

dear Ben:
Being a country of Europe is a thing..
Become a member of EU is totally another thing ..
EU is in deep crisis now and must find his true roots looking back..When we were few...

nick

pre 18 godina

Believe it or not, EU waants to promote the democracy in Serbia and to assure the Serbs live as the other Europeans. The visa regime is obviously an absurd anormality. It position on Kosovo is in no way contrary to the desire to democratise Serbia. I keep asking all who denounce the independence of Kosovo: " What about if the Kosovars vote in the May elections. How many Albanian MPs will be elected in the Skupstina? Will Serbia be governable? It is a rethorical Question. Look at Macedonia and say honestly that you in Serbia???

ben

pre 18 godina

"Rupel: New visa regime before elections"

Wipe them off- how can we develop if you put us in cottage???

Luigi: last time you was preaching Europeism you got your country wiped out form the EU by many EU bloggers here- you didn't learn the lesson???

Serbs and ALL Balkans are EUROPE- culturally, historically, geographically, politically, economically, socially etc....

As the Albanian poet KADARE says: if you take off the Balkans, Apennines and the Scandinavia there is nothing to be left from the European culture- capito Luigi?

Roger7

pre 18 godina

Another bait and switch.

So, Mr. Rupel, if Serbia does what you want them to do by following your agenda, you just might help them out...or maybe we won't.

You are not fooling anyone, Mr. Rupel.

ben

pre 18 godina

EU is in deep crisis now and must find his true roots looking back..When [we] were few...
(luigi, 27 March 2008 16:33)
[] added

Yess that's why many of EU bloggers here suggetsed to start with Italy as first to be excluded. And I don't hear this only on bloggs.

Luigi southern Italy was/is the main benefiter of the EU funds now I see you are afraid of competition- but man it's not your (Italian) money- so relax.

italy

pre 18 godina

I would also introduce visas for EU citizens entering Serbia, and not out of revolt but as a normal and fair move. If their governments show good will to relax with visas for Serbian citizens, as Rupel's discourse seems to show, I would do the same with them. I am sure that they would respect Serbia more at that point. As far as I know, the more "correctly" you treat Europeans, the weaker they become with you. Serbia is not doing good to be complacent with anyone if nothing comes in return.

Luigi

pre 18 godina

to Ben:
Try to upgrade your economic statistics ..
1)Southern Italy was and i repeat was a big beneficiary of Eu funds..BUT that happens many years ago now things have changed..
2)Since 9-10 years ago we have became net contribuitors of Eu BUDGET so we are in the same position of other countries that receive less than pay in taxes to the Eu pot..
3)Italy is in crisis but close to us i don't see many countries in good shape...
Take care

Lenard

pre 18 godina

EU is trying to run shod over people of Serbia wishes and their normal common sense. Always trying to lay traps and entangling Serbia to put it under its nonsense control. Which will be very terminal to its existence and sovereignty to decide its future without interference. By the citizens of Serbia ,not by some hypocrites and technocrats in Brussels who could not give a dam about Serbia or its people. They only care of their careers and power arrogances they exercise and hold over others. Their actions to undermine Serbia talks volumes of their intense and agendas a organization to be very weary of.

Ana

pre 18 godina

You will have to do much more than to issue visas to the holders of a Serbian passport...

Don't be so pathetic and do not underestimate us...

I will vote for the pro EU parties, but don't try to buy my vote with false statements...

I just can not stand the nationalist parties anywhere in the world and as a result, I can not stand them in Serbia as well...

uli

pre 18 godina

B 92 dont cut my comments. I like to know what has been the contribution of Serbia to Eu and balkans in the last decate, for serbia to get this sorts of priviledges? None. Serbian government has created only tears in Balkans and they do not deserve this .