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Wednesday, 05.03.2008.

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Macedonia reopens war crimes cases

Macedonia will reopen investigations into crimes committed by ethnic Albanian guerrillas during the 2001 armed conflict there.

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azir

pre 18 godina

Once again, Peter, what qualfies you to make such an iresponsible determination with "Macedonia has never did any wrong to the Albanians"? Everyone know the true Albanian percentage is much greater than 22-25% of the official estimates.Don't you see why we have an issue with being under represented? You might not personly care for Albanian ligitimate demands for equal rights, but I expect you to show some reasoning and understanding of the situation without jumping to the "terrorist" name calling the slavs are know for.If the Slavic "Macedonians" fulfill their end of the agreement of 2001, we can all live in peace and harmony.Albanians never origanily fought for seperation,unlike the Serbs in Bosnia.We demand quality by the government.Can you understand that? Or is that too much for you to comprehend?Discrimination in education,governnment hiring(civil service),justice system,infustructure,so forth and so on.....They eventualy will be faced with two viable option-we get qual rights, equal treatment and are made rightfull coalition partners treated the same -no better -certain not worse or we will have instabilty and EU and NATO membership will be delayed until they co-operate with their partners,the Albanians.

azir

pre 18 godina

B92 why aren't my comment to Peter Sudyka and joe not accepted? I did not insult anyone unlike the Serb responses.Oh , it's because you don't want to hear the truth, right?? Please show some fairness and courage.Let me quess, this wouldn't be accepted because you have the power ??

Peter Sudyka

pre 18 godina

Gjon Kari

You already did, it's called ANA. Thankfully Macedonia's special forces dealt with these terrorists and NATO did not support ANA either (even though they invited them to adminster the Albanian regions, hoping that the same would be for them as for Kosovo, but they were rejected). There will not be a third Albanian state because nobody will support it. Not even the US.

KS

Because Macedonia has never oppressed the ethnic Albanians and there is no need to apply such a thing.

ahmed

What arguments do the ethnic Albanians in Macedonia have to being separate from them? Macedonians never did anything wrong to them, so your demands will fall on deaf ears like in 2001.

Swooping Eagle

pre 18 godina

There once was an Albanian named Lek, who, seeing that his brother Albanians were killing each other wantonly, came down from the mountain and said, 'I have come to give you a code to live by!
It is the Canon of Lek!' Now it is this...an eye for an eye! In time Lek died and his wisdom was interpreted as... an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye........

Dimitar

pre 18 godina

These crimes include torture, sexual molestation, murder, the blocking of water supply of whole cities; how about amnesty for the victims? Not possible huh? Then so should Albanian terrorism be punished! Albanians have been coddled by the West for so long that they've forgotten basic human decency!

Jack

pre 18 godina

Orthodox Slavs prosecuted while other ethnics released and absolved of any punishment for their murderous actions.
Hmmm! Sounds familiar.

joe

pre 18 godina

dear ahmed. ok. epiros to greece?

or perhaps the macedonians in mala prespa and golo brdo can have their own state, too?

http://www.macedoniansinalbania.org/news/ecri_albania.html

ahmed

pre 18 godina

To Joe

You're wrong on your assumptions that Albanians are powerless and we depend on europe.We dont want to live in a state that we have no executive power.In other words we don't want to be the Indians and the Slavs to be the chiefs.The kosovo solution must be applied on macedonia and we can all go our separate ways.Reasonable?

Doni

pre 18 godina

Macedonian slavs better deal with your name dispute, because you will soon be considered immigrants if your loose the case against greece.

bmrusila

pre 18 godina

This is the main problem with the Albanians, they never prosecute their criminals but rather cherish them. Perhaps, the next step will be accusing Macedonians of oppression against poor and always jeopardized Albanians. After oppression of course the next we will hear are the atrocities against poor and unprotected Albanians.

And Ermira Mehmeti so brilliantly concluded that if Hague said there were no crimes against humanity that means case closed without any wish to prosecute those criminals that killed hundreds of civilians and police officers. No, that is not crime and does not need to be legally processed.

KS

pre 18 godina

bmrusila, why don't we apply the Ahtisaari plan to Macedonia? The Macedonian-Albanians would loveeeeeeeeee the power and freedom they would get. Think about it, official language, documents in Albanian, decentralization, Albanian police, army, twice the representation in congress/parliament.

joe

pre 18 godina

Think again Ahmed. All of these actions are europe's way to segregate the albanians. it's just disguised as their supposed acknowledgement of your 'ethnic albania.' albanians by themselves have no power.

gjon kari

pre 18 godina

Music in my ears. This is going to bring the third Albanian state in ballkans. Long live Illirida. This time we will not be acused of starting the violence

ahmed

pre 18 godina

To Dimitar

It is you that have an inferiority complex and not the Albanians.Our fight for equality against the Slavs is called war crime by you.Well, i've got news for you.The balance of power has changed fevourably towards the Albanians.It is you that lives in the past.

Dimitar

pre 18 godina

Albanians need to accept that they too
are responsible for their actions! These were war crimes, well documented by the Macedonian authorities. Albanians should enter the 21st C. and realize that not everything begins and ends at the barrel of a gun!! A first step would be to put aside their inferiority complex, and make overtures of friendship toward their neighbors, instead of responding with provocation and threat at every opportunity!!!

Dimitar

pre 18 godina

Albanians need to accept that they too
are responsible for their actions! These were war crimes, well documented by the Macedonian authorities. Albanians should enter the 21st C. and realize that not everything begins and ends at the barrel of a gun!! A first step would be to put aside their inferiority complex, and make overtures of friendship toward their neighbors, instead of responding with provocation and threat at every opportunity!!!

gjon kari

pre 18 godina

Music in my ears. This is going to bring the third Albanian state in ballkans. Long live Illirida. This time we will not be acused of starting the violence

ahmed

pre 18 godina

To Dimitar

It is you that have an inferiority complex and not the Albanians.Our fight for equality against the Slavs is called war crime by you.Well, i've got news for you.The balance of power has changed fevourably towards the Albanians.It is you that lives in the past.

KS

pre 18 godina

bmrusila, why don't we apply the Ahtisaari plan to Macedonia? The Macedonian-Albanians would loveeeeeeeeee the power and freedom they would get. Think about it, official language, documents in Albanian, decentralization, Albanian police, army, twice the representation in congress/parliament.

bmrusila

pre 18 godina

This is the main problem with the Albanians, they never prosecute their criminals but rather cherish them. Perhaps, the next step will be accusing Macedonians of oppression against poor and always jeopardized Albanians. After oppression of course the next we will hear are the atrocities against poor and unprotected Albanians.

And Ermira Mehmeti so brilliantly concluded that if Hague said there were no crimes against humanity that means case closed without any wish to prosecute those criminals that killed hundreds of civilians and police officers. No, that is not crime and does not need to be legally processed.

joe

pre 18 godina

Think again Ahmed. All of these actions are europe's way to segregate the albanians. it's just disguised as their supposed acknowledgement of your 'ethnic albania.' albanians by themselves have no power.

ahmed

pre 18 godina

To Joe

You're wrong on your assumptions that Albanians are powerless and we depend on europe.We dont want to live in a state that we have no executive power.In other words we don't want to be the Indians and the Slavs to be the chiefs.The kosovo solution must be applied on macedonia and we can all go our separate ways.Reasonable?

Jack

pre 18 godina

Orthodox Slavs prosecuted while other ethnics released and absolved of any punishment for their murderous actions.
Hmmm! Sounds familiar.

Doni

pre 18 godina

Macedonian slavs better deal with your name dispute, because you will soon be considered immigrants if your loose the case against greece.

joe

pre 18 godina

dear ahmed. ok. epiros to greece?

or perhaps the macedonians in mala prespa and golo brdo can have their own state, too?

http://www.macedoniansinalbania.org/news/ecri_albania.html

Peter Sudyka

pre 18 godina

Gjon Kari

You already did, it's called ANA. Thankfully Macedonia's special forces dealt with these terrorists and NATO did not support ANA either (even though they invited them to adminster the Albanian regions, hoping that the same would be for them as for Kosovo, but they were rejected). There will not be a third Albanian state because nobody will support it. Not even the US.

KS

Because Macedonia has never oppressed the ethnic Albanians and there is no need to apply such a thing.

ahmed

What arguments do the ethnic Albanians in Macedonia have to being separate from them? Macedonians never did anything wrong to them, so your demands will fall on deaf ears like in 2001.

Dimitar

pre 18 godina

These crimes include torture, sexual molestation, murder, the blocking of water supply of whole cities; how about amnesty for the victims? Not possible huh? Then so should Albanian terrorism be punished! Albanians have been coddled by the West for so long that they've forgotten basic human decency!

Swooping Eagle

pre 18 godina

There once was an Albanian named Lek, who, seeing that his brother Albanians were killing each other wantonly, came down from the mountain and said, 'I have come to give you a code to live by!
It is the Canon of Lek!' Now it is this...an eye for an eye! In time Lek died and his wisdom was interpreted as... an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye........

azir

pre 18 godina

B92 why aren't my comment to Peter Sudyka and joe not accepted? I did not insult anyone unlike the Serb responses.Oh , it's because you don't want to hear the truth, right?? Please show some fairness and courage.Let me quess, this wouldn't be accepted because you have the power ??

azir

pre 18 godina

Once again, Peter, what qualfies you to make such an iresponsible determination with "Macedonia has never did any wrong to the Albanians"? Everyone know the true Albanian percentage is much greater than 22-25% of the official estimates.Don't you see why we have an issue with being under represented? You might not personly care for Albanian ligitimate demands for equal rights, but I expect you to show some reasoning and understanding of the situation without jumping to the "terrorist" name calling the slavs are know for.If the Slavic "Macedonians" fulfill their end of the agreement of 2001, we can all live in peace and harmony.Albanians never origanily fought for seperation,unlike the Serbs in Bosnia.We demand quality by the government.Can you understand that? Or is that too much for you to comprehend?Discrimination in education,governnment hiring(civil service),justice system,infustructure,so forth and so on.....They eventualy will be faced with two viable option-we get qual rights, equal treatment and are made rightfull coalition partners treated the same -no better -certain not worse or we will have instabilty and EU and NATO membership will be delayed until they co-operate with their partners,the Albanians.

ahmed

pre 18 godina

To Dimitar

It is you that have an inferiority complex and not the Albanians.Our fight for equality against the Slavs is called war crime by you.Well, i've got news for you.The balance of power has changed fevourably towards the Albanians.It is you that lives in the past.

Doni

pre 18 godina

Macedonian slavs better deal with your name dispute, because you will soon be considered immigrants if your loose the case against greece.

ahmed

pre 18 godina

To Joe

You're wrong on your assumptions that Albanians are powerless and we depend on europe.We dont want to live in a state that we have no executive power.In other words we don't want to be the Indians and the Slavs to be the chiefs.The kosovo solution must be applied on macedonia and we can all go our separate ways.Reasonable?

KS

pre 18 godina

bmrusila, why don't we apply the Ahtisaari plan to Macedonia? The Macedonian-Albanians would loveeeeeeeeee the power and freedom they would get. Think about it, official language, documents in Albanian, decentralization, Albanian police, army, twice the representation in congress/parliament.

gjon kari

pre 18 godina

Music in my ears. This is going to bring the third Albanian state in ballkans. Long live Illirida. This time we will not be acused of starting the violence

joe

pre 18 godina

Think again Ahmed. All of these actions are europe's way to segregate the albanians. it's just disguised as their supposed acknowledgement of your 'ethnic albania.' albanians by themselves have no power.

joe

pre 18 godina

dear ahmed. ok. epiros to greece?

or perhaps the macedonians in mala prespa and golo brdo can have their own state, too?

http://www.macedoniansinalbania.org/news/ecri_albania.html

Peter Sudyka

pre 18 godina

Gjon Kari

You already did, it's called ANA. Thankfully Macedonia's special forces dealt with these terrorists and NATO did not support ANA either (even though they invited them to adminster the Albanian regions, hoping that the same would be for them as for Kosovo, but they were rejected). There will not be a third Albanian state because nobody will support it. Not even the US.

KS

Because Macedonia has never oppressed the ethnic Albanians and there is no need to apply such a thing.

ahmed

What arguments do the ethnic Albanians in Macedonia have to being separate from them? Macedonians never did anything wrong to them, so your demands will fall on deaf ears like in 2001.

Dimitar

pre 18 godina

Albanians need to accept that they too
are responsible for their actions! These were war crimes, well documented by the Macedonian authorities. Albanians should enter the 21st C. and realize that not everything begins and ends at the barrel of a gun!! A first step would be to put aside their inferiority complex, and make overtures of friendship toward their neighbors, instead of responding with provocation and threat at every opportunity!!!

bmrusila

pre 18 godina

This is the main problem with the Albanians, they never prosecute their criminals but rather cherish them. Perhaps, the next step will be accusing Macedonians of oppression against poor and always jeopardized Albanians. After oppression of course the next we will hear are the atrocities against poor and unprotected Albanians.

And Ermira Mehmeti so brilliantly concluded that if Hague said there were no crimes against humanity that means case closed without any wish to prosecute those criminals that killed hundreds of civilians and police officers. No, that is not crime and does not need to be legally processed.

Jack

pre 18 godina

Orthodox Slavs prosecuted while other ethnics released and absolved of any punishment for their murderous actions.
Hmmm! Sounds familiar.

Dimitar

pre 18 godina

These crimes include torture, sexual molestation, murder, the blocking of water supply of whole cities; how about amnesty for the victims? Not possible huh? Then so should Albanian terrorism be punished! Albanians have been coddled by the West for so long that they've forgotten basic human decency!

Swooping Eagle

pre 18 godina

There once was an Albanian named Lek, who, seeing that his brother Albanians were killing each other wantonly, came down from the mountain and said, 'I have come to give you a code to live by!
It is the Canon of Lek!' Now it is this...an eye for an eye! In time Lek died and his wisdom was interpreted as... an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye........

azir

pre 18 godina

B92 why aren't my comment to Peter Sudyka and joe not accepted? I did not insult anyone unlike the Serb responses.Oh , it's because you don't want to hear the truth, right?? Please show some fairness and courage.Let me quess, this wouldn't be accepted because you have the power ??

azir

pre 18 godina

Once again, Peter, what qualfies you to make such an iresponsible determination with "Macedonia has never did any wrong to the Albanians"? Everyone know the true Albanian percentage is much greater than 22-25% of the official estimates.Don't you see why we have an issue with being under represented? You might not personly care for Albanian ligitimate demands for equal rights, but I expect you to show some reasoning and understanding of the situation without jumping to the "terrorist" name calling the slavs are know for.If the Slavic "Macedonians" fulfill their end of the agreement of 2001, we can all live in peace and harmony.Albanians never origanily fought for seperation,unlike the Serbs in Bosnia.We demand quality by the government.Can you understand that? Or is that too much for you to comprehend?Discrimination in education,governnment hiring(civil service),justice system,infustructure,so forth and so on.....They eventualy will be faced with two viable option-we get qual rights, equal treatment and are made rightfull coalition partners treated the same -no better -certain not worse or we will have instabilty and EU and NATO membership will be delayed until they co-operate with their partners,the Albanians.