The assassination of Benazir Bhutto

Let me start by saying that I was disappointed when the US started to support the islamists in Afghanistan in 1979. My evaluation of the Russian invasion was that it was actually a quite good thing. The USSR would modernise Afghanistan and at the same time the money they spent would hasten the demise of communism. I found Carters decision to support the Islamists as deeply immoral. Everybody knew even then that these weren't good people and that the support would result in a bloody battle. We are even today seeing the effect of it. It was US money that made the Pakistani secret service a hideout for Islamic radicals.

I see a direct link between the strength of Islamic fundamentalism and the oil price. Bin Laden and the other radicals receive many millions from the Gulf region. Much more goes to radical mosques and radical Islamic charities that spread the ideology. In my opinion we should for that reason direct our pressure to open up and modernize specially to Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.

As for democratisation: Iran is one of the most democratic Islamic countries. It is about the only country in the Middle East where elections really can make a difference. We should give them recognition for this and replace the heavy handed pressure by a more respectful attitude that stresses the problems regarding civil liberties. They can become a model democracy for the Middle East. And I believe that the only way to get Iraq a stable democracy is to work together with the Iranians.

Democracy is built on trust and human rights. That's why waging war to bring democracy will almost never work. Fighting results - specially when sponsored by outside parties - in hatred and distrust between people.

The Afghan situation is starting to look like the Vietnam situation. Just as North Vietnam was the main source of trouble but an invasion was considered no option, so now the Pashtun areas of Pakistan are the main source of trouble yet an intervention there seems out of the question. In fact we have tied our hands even more: while former Taliban are widespread in the Afghan government former communists are still taboo. The government is actually considering to negotiate with the Taliban (and according to rumours already doing so on a regional level).

The murder of Bhutto - who ruled during much of the rise of the Taliban - looks like the latests of developments in this murky area. It is my impression that the US is outfoxed here by smart local players and would do best to reduce its ambitions and its presence in the Pakistan-Afghanistan region.

Good posting Wim!
Pakistan's secret services actually were involved with islamic movements in Afghanistan before 1979. They destabilised Afghanistan by trying to remove government seen as pro-Soviet at the time. When their destabilisation efforts succeded, Soviets intervened, turning bad situation into terrible one.

There is a program on American radio called "The Rest of the Story". In it, the announcer relates interesting facts from history that have been deleted by historians for whatever their reasons. Montgomery plays this selective history game. Bhutto was removed twice from power for corruption. She claimed political motivations but it is never revealed that she was and her husband is currently under indictment for financial corruption by several european governments.

http://investigate911.se/Bin_Laden_Is_A_CIA_Creation.html

"Bin Laden Is A CIA Creation"

"An ABC news piece that ran yesterday morning(3 dec 2007) attracted attention after four Pakistanis who were being interviewed about the attitudes and life of young people in Pakistan declared Osama Bin Laden to be a creation of western intelligence and stressed that Islamic extremist attitudes towards the west were virtually non existent in their country before 9/11."

"Who is Osama Bin Laden?" One girl asked, "He's just a character created by America" she concluded

Why would Musharraf kill Bhutto? Both of them were cut from the same liberal cloth, and Bhutto's support would have guaranteed.

Please think before hurtling allegations.

"The man who murdered Osama bin Laden"

http://investigate911.se/benazir_bhutto_about_bin_laden.html

There is a program on American radio called "The Rest of the Story". In it, the announcer relates interesting facts from history that have been deleted by historians for whatever their reasons. Montgomery plays this selective history game. Bhutto was removed twice from power for corruption. She claimed political motivations but it is never revealed that she was and her husband is currently under indictment for financial corruption by several european governments.

Why would Musharraf kill Bhutto? Both of them were cut from the same liberal cloth, and Bhutto's support would have guaranteed.

Please think before hurtling allegations.

"The man who murdered Osama bin Laden"

http://investigate911.se/benazir_bhutto_about_bin_laden.html

Let me start by saying that I was disappointed when the US started to support the islamists in Afghanistan in 1979. My evaluation of the Russian invasion was that it was actually a quite good thing. The USSR would modernise Afghanistan and at the same time the money they spent would hasten the demise of communism. I found Carters decision to support the Islamists as deeply immoral. Everybody knew even then that these weren't good people and that the support would result in a bloody battle. We are even today seeing the effect of it. It was US money that made the Pakistani secret service a hideout for Islamic radicals.

I see a direct link between the strength of Islamic fundamentalism and the oil price. Bin Laden and the other radicals receive many millions from the Gulf region. Much more goes to radical mosques and radical Islamic charities that spread the ideology. In my opinion we should for that reason direct our pressure to open up and modernize specially to Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.

As for democratisation: Iran is one of the most democratic Islamic countries. It is about the only country in the Middle East where elections really can make a difference. We should give them recognition for this and replace the heavy handed pressure by a more respectful attitude that stresses the problems regarding civil liberties. They can become a model democracy for the Middle East. And I believe that the only way to get Iraq a stable democracy is to work together with the Iranians.

Democracy is built on trust and human rights. That's why waging war to bring democracy will almost never work. Fighting results - specially when sponsored by outside parties - in hatred and distrust between people.

The Afghan situation is starting to look like the Vietnam situation. Just as North Vietnam was the main source of trouble but an invasion was considered no option, so now the Pashtun areas of Pakistan are the main source of trouble yet an intervention there seems out of the question. In fact we have tied our hands even more: while former Taliban are widespread in the Afghan government former communists are still taboo. The government is actually considering to negotiate with the Taliban (and according to rumours already doing so on a regional level).

The murder of Bhutto - who ruled during much of the rise of the Taliban - looks like the latests of developments in this murky area. It is my impression that the US is outfoxed here by smart local players and would do best to reduce its ambitions and its presence in the Pakistan-Afghanistan region.

http://investigate911.se/Bin_Laden_Is_A_CIA_Creation.html

"Bin Laden Is A CIA Creation"

"An ABC news piece that ran yesterday morning(3 dec 2007) attracted attention after four Pakistanis who were being interviewed about the attitudes and life of young people in Pakistan declared Osama Bin Laden to be a creation of western intelligence and stressed that Islamic extremist attitudes towards the west were virtually non existent in their country before 9/11."

"Who is Osama Bin Laden?" One girl asked, "He's just a character created by America" she concluded

Good posting Wim!
Pakistan's secret services actually were involved with islamic movements in Afghanistan before 1979. They destabilised Afghanistan by trying to remove government seen as pro-Soviet at the time. When their destabilisation efforts succeded, Soviets intervened, turning bad situation into terrible one.