Enclave arrests "could influence Kosovo dialogue"

Aleksandar Vulin has warned that arrests of Serbs in an enclave in Kosovo on Orthodox Christmas could adversely influence the Kosovo dialogue.

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  1. About that 'face in the dirt': Do you talk about the incident from last year when Serbian police caught some Albanian men in the forest who illegally crossed the administrative line to Serbia in the middle of the night, carrying machine guns and automatic pistols and wearing some fantasy uniform?
    (Comm. Parrisson, 8 January 2013 18:09)
    Are you talking about the ones who Kfor determined had not crossed the line and in fact were abducted on Kosovo soil??? Reason they were released without any further Parading by Dacic.
    (think again, 8 January 2013 19:56)

    Oh yeah, I remember that,
    dont know the full details, but I remember one of the Albo policemen had a massive crap stain on the back of his pants!LOL!!!!!!!
    (What difference does my name make!, 10 January 2013 11:46)

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  2. BTW, how about those war criminals wearing fancy suits in Pristina, why are they not in jail?
    (Kalifornija, 8 January 2013 17:45)

    Don't take it personal son. I fancy your writing and all, and gave you all positives, but it's the word
    California that sets me off every time I drink.
    Now that I had some time to clear my head, I'll answer that question. It's because that part of Serbia
    is occupied by NATO and NATO is harboring and protecting these war criminals and the Croat war
    criminals just like "NATO"and the Vatican did after WW2, for the exact same reasons and purpose.
    (I know that everybody knows that,the Albanians might not though)
    (Chavez,Texas, 9 January 2013 08:17)

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  3. BTW, how about those war criminals wearing fancy suits in Pristina, why are they not in jail?
    (Kalifornija, 8 January 2013 17:45)
    Probably the crimes of those they were fighting were so horrific that the world sees them as acting in self defense.
    (You think?, 9 January 2013 01:23)

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  4. BTW, how about those war criminals wearing fancy suits in Pristina, why are they not in jail?
    (Kalifornija, 8 January 2013 17:45)

    Why don't you ask Arnold, he's in Kalifornija. I think Khaliwood.

    While you there, see if this guy still interested in being Serb president. [link]
    (Chavez, Texas, 8 January 2013 22:15)

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  5. The dog can bark how much it want, but will still not get an bone. A message to Vulin,Nikolic and co.
    (Demi, 8 January 2013 12:51)

    And to Rexhepi who still can't get any respect whenever he's barking about northern Kosovo. Poor little Rexhepi :(
    (Dummy, 8 January 2013 22:11)

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  6. Vullin cowboys should have known that they are not in Texas and for the safety of every citizen in Kosovo regardless of where it comes from is the police.
    (drini., 8 January 2013 21:21)

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  7. (Ari Gold, 8 January 2013 16:08)

    Vulin had to agree with Phristina that he would not be visiting for political reasons in an official capacity & only visiting for private personal religious reasons. Therefore he was permitted to enter Kosova. He pushed his luck & he was subsequently escorted out of the country by the Kosova Police under orders from Prishtina. Mr Nikolic wouldn't agree to these conditions therefore he wasn't permitted entry into Kosova. I'd be very surprised to see Vulin come south of Ibar now, his predecessor violated these conditions & he hasn't been allowed South of the Ibar since. EULEX doesn't control Kosova, EULEX works with Kosova only and they're rather small in numbers. But if it makes you sleep easier at night by convincing yourself that EULEX blocked Nikolic from coming to Kosova and not Prishtina, then you keep telling yourself that.
    (Haitian, 8 January 2013 20:40)

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  8. About that 'face in the dirt': Do you talk about the incident from last year when Serbian police caught some Albanian men in the forest who illegally crossed the administrative line to Serbia in the middle of the night, carrying machine guns and automatic pistols and wearing some fantasy uniform?
    (Comm. Parrisson, 8 January 2013 18:09)
    Are you talking about the ones who Kfor determined had not crossed the line and in fact were abducted on Kosovo soil??? Reason they were released without any further Parading by Dacic.
    (think again, 8 January 2013 19:56)

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  9. I myself as a Christian Albanian cannot support these Serbian Christians when they are provoking Albanians through religious strategies. It is giving us Christians all a bad image as Serbs have done in the past. I know for a fact Serbs are not about their religion if they were they could have kept their religious and political views separate. They have not done it yet, and apparently they will never just so they can stir up issues between Muslim Albanians. I have to agree that not all Serbs are as ignorant as some show to be. This has got to stop from Serbians regardless if they want to achieve peaceful relations in the future.

    Vulin should have been arrested for causing problems in Kosova.
    Kosova's assembly should have barred vulin from entering Kosova like they did Nikolic none of this would have taken place. I guess we learned our lessons, do not let these hateful Serbian politicians in Kosova's soil ever again.

    PEACE
    (Albanian, 8 January 2013 19:39)

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  10. ben, i find it funny how you consider it a provocation to either have some insignia, or to want a statue, of one the parent nation considers to be a terrorist, brought down, but somehow you don't consider the errection of said statue as a provocation, or how it is convenient to arrest people just for detention and cry some abstract backwards notion of politisizing an event. it would seem that those making arrests based upon the denying of one's speech is as political as those making the speachs.
    rememeber big boys and girls can deal with words. if the k gov were to act like big boys and girls they'd let such words roll off their backs much like water drips off a duck.
    (ned, 8 January 2013 19:23)

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  11. "The Kosovar side: discrete, respectful of the individuals dignity and human rights, no face in the dirt no photo to humiliate them – totally professional and respectful. "
    (ben, 8 January 2013 13:53)

    Yes, it's amazing how these professional KPS officers handled those criminals who dared to 'look suspicious' and 'wear some T-Shirts'. And, who knows, they might have even carried some Serbian flags with them?

    Everybody knows that those things are considered severe crimes in Kosovo - unlike dealing/exporting drugs, which is the only flourishing economy.

    About that 'face in the dirt': Do you talk about the incident from last year when Serbian police caught some Albanian men in the forest who illegally crossed the administrative line to Serbia in the middle of the night, carrying machine guns and automatic pistols and wearing some fantasy uniform?
    (Comm. Parrisson, 8 January 2013 18:09)

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  12. (Kalifornija, 8 January 2013 16:15)

    endagaring the escorted convoy.

    just few months ago a MUP memebr that intruded in the convoy of your chetnick-president was arrested from your police. for the same reasons these 9 guys were arrested. And if the prosecuter has more evidence and reasonable elements they could also be suspected for being members of para-military organisation.

    from the professional and ethical point of view: they were arrested and treated with dignity not humiliated as your paesan PM when was a minister of interior was doing when he arrested the kosova's border police and the ex UCPMB members.

    from the political point of view: your politicians never miss the chance to provoke Prishitna's reaction in order for them to stop the negotiations. they cannot care to abuse politicaly even with your religious celebrations.

    hope this helps.
    (ben, 8 January 2013 18:08)

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  13. Bujar, please, the war was 14 years ago, and the KPS are the ones in charge of investigating whether every Serb that enters KiM is a former war criminal, as suspected by Pristina? These young men were probably teenagers during the war, so this is plain and simple intimidation. I believe there are other institutions that address the war criminal issue a bit better than these cops in KiM. BTW, how about those war criminals wearing fancy suits in Pristina, why are they not in jail?
    (Kalifornija, 8 January 2013 17:45)

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  14. "Ok but no one answered my question. Can you explain WHY Vulin was there to begin with? You say its because the "kosovo institutions" allowed him, but why allow him knowing what he and his position stands for?"

    Vulin's position is to bark, and Kosova institutions allowed him in to show to the rest of the Serbs that in Kosova, he can only bark as much as he is allowed by the Kosova institutions.

    They could have as well not allowed him in, as they did with Nikolic, but that would have not had the same effect as allowing him in and then throwing him out for bad behavior. Now he will remember who is the boss in Kosova.
    (Common Sense, 8 January 2013 17:38)

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  15. They couldn't verify their identity. The Kosovo police might have a list of war criminals and wanted to check if some of them participated in killing civilians during the war.

    That is what I believe, why the go arrested.
    (Bujar, 8 January 2013 16:47)

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  16. I am waiting to hear the reason why these 9 Serbs were arrested. Someone mentioned something about some shirts. What shirts, what kind of silly reason is that? Did their shirts clash with their trousers, and the fashion conscious Albanian reps in Pristina were offended? This is all so comical. I have a strong feeling that the real reason is because they are Serbs, and Pristina wanted to again, show who is boss. All of these men entered KiM legally, at a legal administrative line crossing, so please, these KPS are suspicious of them, what?
    (Kalifornija, 8 January 2013 16:29)

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  17. "I still do not understand why these 9 Serbian men were brought before a prosecutor in Pristina. What was the charge? What were they suspicious of? Why don't the Kosovo police explain what they suspected these 9 men were doing, or going to do? Is Kosovo run as a police state, under the Albanians in Pristina? "
    (Kalifornija, 8 January 2013 12:06)

    It's all written in the article: No real charges, so they will come up with some fabricated things like 'threatening peace' or 'disturbing constitutional order' and other nonsense.

    And today we learned from the KPS spokesperson about a new crime that is only possible in the independent dream state of Kosovo: You can be arrested, detained and imprisoned for one day if you are 'looking suspicious'.

    Conclusion: Pure provocation, intimidation, these are the only things these laughing stock called 'KPS' is capable of.
    (Comm. Parrisson, 8 January 2013 16:24)

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  18. And it will be more obvius when the Kosova Army is formed by end of this year. Serbs will learn to respect the new reality and obey the law and the constitution of Kosova. The other option is to move to a place you can call Serbia.

    (Demi, 8 January 2013 12:51)

    You really don't see what the West is doing do you? They are pushing for these negotiations aggressively and will support the creation of a 'kosovo army' because they don't want this conflict on their hands anymore. In their eyes they will view Kosovo as an independent country with its own army that can handle its own problems. And then it will desperately depend on Belgrades continued indifference over the occupation of its Holy southern province because as the West withdraws they don't want to see conflict reignited because then history will view Western intervention in Kosovo i Metohija as a failure.



    But if the only thing standing between Belgrade and Pristina is a 'kosovo army'...pfffffttt bring. it. on. bros! We will break the record for world's quickest liberation.
    (Ari Gold, 8 January 2013 16:15)

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  19. But, Mr. Ben, what were the charges against the 9 Serbs arrested? You can't arrest people on suspicion. I can suspect you are an idiot, should I be able to arrest you and place you in an asylum? Really, Ben, you can't arrest people without a reason in a free society, and I believe Pristina claims that KiM is a free society. I have a feeling Vulin is correct, it's just Pristina trying to show yet again, though very petty, that they are boss. As for the monument you mention, I believe that that thing is in Serbia proper, not KiM, so it has nothing to do with Pristina. Please tell me, what exactly were the 9 men arrested for?
    (Kalifornija, 8 January 2013 16:15)

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  20. Kosovo is part of Serbia and not recognized as an Independent State by the majority of the worlds population and not recognized as a Country by the majority of UN member states. It is reprehensible that Serbia should even have to seek any sort of 'permission' to visit its own territory, especially a UNESCO Christian Heritage site like Gracanica. Readers would be well served by studying the history of the region a little bit, and seeing how many hundreds of Monastaries and Churches were build in Kosovo; how many destroyed by the Albanian Kosovars; and what the demographics were of the area up until the early 1900's. The Capital of Serbia used to be in Kosovo, in Pec. Perhaps someday, parts of the UK will have a different demographic, bring in Sharia Law, and 'democratically' vote to separate and London officials can ask 'permission' to visit these places as well as historically 'British' sites. Mike C
    (Mike, 8 January 2013 16:13)

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  21. Brahim Sadriu, a spokesman for the Kosovo police, told Priština media late on Monday that "the men looked suspicious so the police detained them".

    Question: How many "suspicious" looking Albanians in Kosovo does KPS arrest?

    Answer: None. Instead they're elected to office.

    All kidding aside, these are some pretty weak arguments Kosovo's* local authorities have. First it was because they were wearing provocative t-shirts (which could be anything that doesn't openly express a pro-Albanian position), to now just "looking suspicious". Turns out they're being released because there's nothing to charge them with (read as the international community told Rambo Rexhepi to cut the BS) and now they'll probably be given some sort of fine for disturbing the peace or violating another part of that constitution no one's ever seen but seems to be based off of Turkey's Article 301. So in the end, Serbs get inconvenienced and Albanians make money off of it.

    Welcome to Europe's Youngest and most Multiethnic Democracy, where the local yokels despise minorities yet remind them to be thankful on a daily basis the "law" remains lenient for them :)
    (Balkan Anthropologist, 8 January 2013 16:11)

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  22. Vulin was officially in Kosova on a personal religious visit under the condition he wouldn't politicize his visit.

    Next question!
    (Haitian, 8 January 2013 14:21)

    He heads the Office for Kosovo i Metohija, his duties are to be the State's representative in occupation. The 'kosovo institutions' know this very well. They know he represents a government that claims Kosovo i Metohija to be theirs (at least officially we all know of the traitors within the ranks of Serbia's political elite). Face it, there is no real explanation you can give me because if Albanian institutions truly had it their way not only would he not be there, he would be executed.

    Lets all come to terms with reality please. It was EULEX that decided Nikolic would not be allowed to enter occupied Kosovo i Metohija and it was EULEX that decided Vulin would. Which proves my point that it is they who are calling the shots in Kosovo i Metohija. Now this is Serbia's fault for signing the legitimacy of EULEX, it was pressured into doing so under the pretense EULEX would be status neutral even though the Tadic regime knew this would not end up being the case.

    I hope this clears things up for you who are blind as a bat.
    (Ari Gold, 8 January 2013 16:08)

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  23. (Demi, 8 January 2013 12:51)

    Ok but no one answered my question. Can you explain WHY Vulin was there to begin with? You say its because the "kosovo institutions" allowed him, but why allow him knowing what he and his position stands for?

    You say Serbia has no place in 'kosova' but why was Vulin there? And if it was really you who decided to let him, why did you? Surely Mahmoud Abbas would not allow a rep from the Israeli government to visit the West Bank while referring to it as Samaria would he?

    Why would you 'let' the hostile government of Serbia into Kosovo i Metohija at all knowing what it stands for? Were you trying to be nice even though the Serbian Government officially disputes your claims to Kosovo i Metohija? Will someone explain this to me? Ian perhaps?
    (Ari Gold, 8 January 2013 14:25)

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  24. What I don't understand is Vulin is an acting member of the Serbian Government in charge of dealing with Kosovo i Metohija. Why then did the 'kosovo institutions' "allow" Vulin access into the territory? Ian, UK will of course rush here to tell me (although conveniently not comment on the fact Islamist terrorists barred Serbian citizens from attending Church) that these 'kosovo institutions' reign supreme in Kosovo i Metohija and they are of course the highest order in the territory.

    So why would they let Vulin, who represents Serbia in KiM? Is there any enthusiastic Albanian on B92 that can answer this question for me?
    (Ari Gold, 8 January 2013 12:02)

    Vulin was officially in Kosova on a personal religious visit under the condition he wouldn't politicize his visit.

    Next question!
    (Haitian, 8 January 2013 14:21)

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  25. These men were part of Vulin's entourage and they were wearing "civil defense" shirts. When They were asked to go to police station try decided or more likely were told to disobey and cause a fuss. But yet again we know and so does the whole world who the instigators are
    (Une, 8 January 2013 14:08)

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  26. p.s. note the style:

    imagine if it was MUP arresting some kind of Kosovar "civil protection"???

    oh my lord...

    the arrested laying down handcuffed with the face in dirt, police armed to teeth with super big guns, 3-4 pistols, 4 knifes each, 5 hand grenades, masks on faces, guns pointed to the arrested persons, big insignia Serbian jandarmery and dolcis in fundo: 30-40 photos to testify what a super bad a..s are the Serbian security forces...

    The Kosovar side: discrete, respectful of the individuals dignity and human rights, no face in the dirt no photo to humiliate them – totally professional and respectful.

    But what's the point?? Serbs still cry as pussies...
    (ben, 8 January 2013 13:53)

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  27. Vulin’s car was escorted by the kosova's police. These 9 guys were overtaking and intruded as part of the convoy.

    but we are talking technicality here of the Serbian continuous provocations and dishonest behaviour each time has negotiated with kosova.

    the key factor here is that Serbia wants desperately to withdraw and stop these negotiations. Serbia however does not want to be blamed for the failure of these negotiations. Thus, it is doing whatever they can to provoke the Kosovar side. Thus Serbia is:

    - adopting a so called platform - that would have been unacceptable for Kosova if the year was 1988 not 2013
    - blocking the borders crossings - "business" man's are protesting; in reality nullifying the IBM agreement
    - making a big fuss and threatens with armed action to remove a monument that people erected to their own lost sons and fathers
    - taking part of her MUP units and re-uniform them in "civil protection" units and make them public in north
    - take these "civil protection" units and stage public exercises in north
    - take part of these "civil protection" units and insert them as part of the official escort that provides security to Serbian official

    and something else tomorrow...

    the strategy is simple: provoke a strong reaction from the Kosova's side so the Serbia could say: no way I'm negotiating under these kind of circumstances.

    Serbs know that these negotiations are only Serbian verification of Kosova's independence. Vulin is just playing some theatre.
    (ben, 8 January 2013 13:42)

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  28. Mr./Mrs. Demi, you are simply breast beating, Albanians this, Albanians that, but you are avoiding the article. Why were there 9 Serbian men arrested, what were they brought before a prosecutor for? For being Serbian in Kosovo? I do not think that that would be an offense in most countries. Obviously they gained legal entry at one of the administrative crossings, so what exactly are the charges against these 9 men? I don't believe that you can arrest people for suspicion, suspicion of what? You can't do it in the West, maybe Pristina has special laws towards Serbs, suspicion being one of them?
    (Kalifornija, 8 January 2013 13:18)

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  29. Vulin should know that the only reason he can visit Kosova is because the goverment of Kosova allow him. He should learn from his fellow countrymen Nikolic what can happend if you don't play your cards right with Albanians.

    Serbia has no place in Kosova. And it will be more obvius when the Kosova Army is formed by end of this year. Serbs will learn to respect the new reality and obey the law and the constitution of Kosova. The other option is to move to a place you can call Serbia.



    The dog can bark how much it want, but will still not get an bone. A message to Vulin,Nikolic and co.
    (Demi, 8 January 2013 12:51)

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  30. Welcome to the banana republic of Kosovo.
    (Wally, 8 January 2013 12:10)

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  31. I still do not understand why these 9 Serbian men were brought before a prosecutor in Pristina. What was the charge? What were they suspicious of? Why don't the Kosovo police explain what they suspected these 9 men were doing, or going to do? Is Kosovo run as a police state, under the Albanians in Pristina? I'd be damned if I would ever go there, where a cop suspects you something, or nothing, and your ass is in jail.
    (Kalifornija, 8 January 2013 12:06)

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  32. What I don't understand is Vulin is an acting member of the Serbian Government in charge of dealing with Kosovo i Metohija. Why then did the 'kosovo institutions' "allow" Vulin access into the territory? Ian, UK will of course rush here to tell me (although conveniently not comment on the fact Islamist terrorists barred Serbian citizens from attending Church) that these 'kosovo institutions' reign supreme in Kosovo i Metohija and they are of course the highest order in the territory.

    So why would they let Vulin, who represents Serbia in KiM? Is there any enthusiastic Albanian on B92 that can answer this question for me?
    (Ari Gold, 8 January 2013 12:02)

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