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Daily: Pressure on Serbia increases

It is still unknown when the Belgrade-Priština talks could continue and the pressure exerted on Serbia is being increased every day, daily Politika writes.

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ZZZ…ZZ daily pressure; must meet deadlines otherwise no paradise; Serbia will not get candidate status and so it goes on and on.
For those that have slept through the last couple of years, the EU is screwed in every way but these articles keep on coming out as if nothing has happened and the west is living the “life of Riley.
Here is a suggestion, let the Croats join heaven on earth and we will see how many money trees the EU plants in Zagreb.
(sj, 9 February 2012, 09:41)
   

It is important for Serbia and for many countries not to surrender. Germany an its allies try step for step to materialize the so called independence of Kosovo. By not agreeing and not subordinating to this pressure, Serbia keeps it's right and sovereignty over its territory in the sout-west of Serbia. This is the reason why the west is pushing so hard. To resist this imperial politics is not only important for serbia, it is important to keep the international law alive. The integration into the EU might be important for Serbia, but to keep the country together and not to sell it out is much more important.
(Dr. Alexander S. Neu - Germany Advisor for international Relations, 9 February 2012, 09:46)
   

It is alright to collect Worthless Trinkets like European Union Candidate Status, but only if it is collected with every word of the Serbian Constitution and the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo are fully obeyed and implemented as it is the Rule of Law.
(Yet Another J S, 9 February 2012, 10:02)
   

For those that have slept through the last couple of years, the EU is screwed in every way but these articles keep on coming out as if nothing has happened and the west is living the “life of Riley.
Here is a suggestion, let the Croats join heaven on earth and we will see how many money trees the EU plants in Zagreb.
(sj, 9 February 2012 09:41)

Was it not you that told us 100000 times that croatia will never join EU before having transferred part of its territory to Serbia ???
Tell us now, how many sqm did u get ??? let me guess NOTHING...lol
(Hans, 9 February 2012, 10:35)
   

Quote Germany and the EU, "We, as a Union, have more problems than we can count, on all fronts. Our beloved Union will more than likely change considerably in short time, and may even dissolve completely. But we will pretend that we no problems, when we demand conditions from Serbia, who's government is still blindly trying to get membership in our failing Union. Go figure"? Yes, go figure DS, etal.? What the hell is this dying Union going to offer Serbia, that you are will to give away your historic land in our Southern province of KiM?
(winston, 9 February 2012, 10:39)
   

Serbia should look at Turkey which got EU candidature way back in 1999 and has been left high and dry since then. Getting EU candidature can really mean getting nothing at all, and if Serbia is to be so foolish as to give in to all these demands for nothing in the end .... well, all I can say then would be that she oughta have known better!
(lowe, 9 February 2012, 10:40)
   

To whom it may concern as they might be few...))

"By not agreeing and not subordinating to this pressure, Serbia keeps it's right and sovereignty over its territory in the sout-west of Serbia."

How? By apply for visa/permission to enter Kosovo? Just as an example...)))


"To resist this imperial politics is not only important for serbia, it is important to keep the international law alive."

Did you mean Russia or China law?

It is "very difficult" to understand you guys...What do you think about Slobodan Milloshevic and his legacy? He was great to apply "international law" I meant Russian and Chinese law...)
(EA, 9 February 2012, 11:00)
   

This ad libitum and ad nauseam disregard for UN SC decisions is amazing and shows a degree of arrogance that could ultimately well lead towards a larger scale international conflict.
(b.v. bakic, 9 February 2012, 11:19)
   

To Tadic and Company. then dont let pressure beat you. Serbia will survive without an EU seat. dont let "blackmail" overcome your senses.

the whole Kosovo province cannot be an "exchange gift" for an EU seat.
(PRO-SERBIA, 9 February 2012, 11:22)
   

To hell with neutrality, Prishtina shouldnt accept anything less then being recognized as a Republic, and If Belgrade contiunes pushing to fulfill Milosevic's dream of Greater Serbia then its nothing left to discuss.
(Pejoni, 9 February 2012, 11:27)
   

Wrong, the pressure is not increasing.

The pressure is the same as it was three months ago. Maybe the pressure is building up in Belgrade while the deadline is approaching?

I suggest that Serbia apply for full membership in the Non-Aligned movement. Although the list of Serbia's friends on that list is shrinking (Egypt, Lybia, Yemen, Tunisia, and other dictatorships that fell or are about to fall), at least its ego won't be insulted there...
(Fluid, 9 February 2012, 12:02)
   

Pejoni

The only recognition that Prishtina will receive can be summarized in the the following words.

Poor
Dirty
Crime Infested
Backwards
Uneducated
Organ Snatchers
Terrorist

and most of all

COWARDS

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012, 12:18)
   

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 12:18)

- Church-burner
- Corrupt
- Mafiosi
- Honesty-challenged
- Dependent from abroad-donations of diaspora
- Nationalist to the extreme
- Expanding at other's costs
- Parasiting on the other people / nations

It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer
(Ataman, 9 February 2012, 13:05)
   

The only recognition that Prishtina will receive can be summarized in the the following words.

Poor
Dirty
Crime Infested
Backwards
Uneducated
Organ Snatchers
Terrorist

and most of all

COWARDS

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 12:18)


I could say the same about Serbia. But I won't since I am more mature than you.

You can just go to Haag and see how many serbs you have there infected with the words you wrote above.

History and proof speak for it self. What you serbs say dosen't matter.

The free world knowes.......
(Demi, 9 February 2012, 13:27)
   

Another Canadian Serb,

Are you suggesting to Pejoni that under Serbian sovereignity


Prishtina will receive an absute recognition which can be summarized in the the following words.

Rich
Tidy

Crime FREE

Progressive

Organ Donnors

Peacelovers orthodox

and most of all

Brave


Happy if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Like it used to be under Serbian rule....
(EA, 9 February 2012, 13:28)
   

It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer
(Ataman, 9 February 2012 13:05)

Now let's bring to light some great attributes.

- Extremely Unathletic
- Great Manipulators
- Superior Stone Throwers
- Experts at Deceit

Sorry, but I ran out of time as I have to head out to work. I'll play catch up later.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012, 13:36)
   

pss, people in Kosovo live in worse conditions than in central Serbia, yet KAlb "politicians" don't want to negotiate complomise solution with Serbia, your politicians only think about their pride, they don't think about healthcare, modern school systems, economic opportunities for their people... What's your attitude to it?

How kind of you to care about Serbian people well-being much more than about KAlbs well-being.
(aaayyy, 8 February 2012 21:36)
In what possible way are you saying any compromise with Serbia would be a boost for Kosovo? All that would be accomplished is that foreign money flowing into Pristina would be redirected through Belgrade to be siphoned off first. Remember this mess was caused by the fact that Belgrade destroyed all the infrastructure in Kosovo in order to drive the Albanians out.
Comparing Serbia's joining the EU with Kosovo joining Serbia is insane!
(pss, 9 February 2012 12:07)

Compromise with Serbia would improve regional relationship and bring KAlbs to EU if this is what you want.
(aaayyy, 9 February 2012, 13:41)
   

Bulgarians say that since Bulgaria entered EU there have been minor and gradual changes, and it isn't clear if those changes are the result of entering EU or they just go by themselves.
(aaayyy, 9 February 2012, 13:48)
   

The only recognition Albanians in KiM can have, is that they are a criminal society, run by mafia clan members that are involved in ever horrible crime imaginable. Ask anyone in the Balkans, or the rest of Europe, and see what they say about you guys. There is your recognition.
(DontMakeMeLaugh, 9 February 2012, 13:52)
   

Demi

The Serbs at the Hague are innocent!

Just ask the Dutch military. The same Dutch military that wishes to testify on Serbia's behalf, but are not allowed as NATO doesn't allow it.

Why is NATO exempt from prosecution of any criminal activity in the Balkans.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012, 14:30)
   

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Ataman,

Don't worry, I will add up some more characteristics to see how similar "Albanians and Serbs are"

- Church-manipulators, church army barracs users
- Paradise society
- Angels
- Undisputable truth-teller
- Dependent from mother Russia
- Force-coming from Russia with love


It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer


With disgust from EA....
(EA, 9 February 2012, 14:36)
   

This title remind me the boiling frog story:
The boiling frog story is a widespread anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability of people to react to significant changes that occur gradually.

Let’s see in the election how many Serbs will react to the pressure.
(dori tirana, 9 February 2012, 14:38)
   

Time to reconsider the referendum?

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(Mitrovica, 9 February 2012, 15:18)
   

Demi & EA

If I were you I would not scoop to the level some of the Serbian commenting here. Let them believe their propaganda as long as they are happy.

Keep the pressure EU.
(Mendo, 9 February 2012, 15:33)
   

Mendo,

You are right! Just wandering how far the insanity can go...maybe to level Anders Behren Breivik..... with such a hate how can the Serbia claim sovereignity and territorial integrity over Kosovo....
(EA, 9 February 2012, 16:11)
   

germans! I wouldn't expect anything else from them. Siding with their former nazi allies albanians, what else is new. But I think they will still give candidate status soon.. but that doesn't matter because Serbia will not enter EU for a loooong time. But who cares? They lie to citizens and tell them 'oh yes once in EU it will be like heaven.' There won't be eceonomic growth until a country actually starts to export something!
(Ratko, 9 February 2012, 16:28)
   

Oh come on Mendo.

Which one of the postings can you discredit?

The truth hurts, ehhhh Mendo!
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012, 16:49)
   

It is alright to collect Worthless Trinkets like European Union Candidate Status, but only if it is collected with every word of the Serbian Constitution and the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo are fully obeyed and implemented as it is the Rule of Law.
(Yet Another J S, 9 February 2012 10:02)
Even though it was NEVER voted on in the UNSC or accepted, (remember the only proof you had was someone's blog) just what is it in the 6 point plan that is not being implemented at the present. The northern crossings are covered by international agents, other than Serbs allowing for immediate control over the Mitrovica courthouse, everything else was "discussions will take place" that is what the dialogue is suppose to be doing. So even without UNSC mandate everything is being covered except for those areas being held back by Serbia.
(a New Day, 9 February 2012, 17:47)
   

With disgust from EA....
(EA, 9 February 2012 14:36)

Good, that was the purpose. :)

Now why do you come here to begin with? If you can't handle to get disgusted than just stay reading New Kosova Report. Or if you want to get into brawl with Serbs, go to the Serbian language section of B92. This place supposed to be for expats and the rest-of-us who want to have some FRIENDLY chat regardless of their background about what is on the Balkan peninsula. Instead it turned into a bizarre Albanian orgy. Well, you came here with ill intents - get what you deserve and get disgusted.

Believe me, the Serbian side you are so much disgusted with is largely just a bunch of normal people who got disgusted with the Albanian mental diarhea here - and true to the rule: "if possible, do not feed the trolls; but if you do, feed them with something they can't digest". In that spirit, I am here mostly if I have bad mood. Than, I try to feed you what you hopefully can't digest.

It wasn't always that way but I learned my lesson. Do not worry, in the real life I do not have much problems with the Albanians I know. I try to avoid of course Albanians I suspect I won't like. I also believe, B92 moderators should do their job much better because the quality of this place detorriates significantly. At one moment people will come here only to barf at each other and relieve their unrelated frustrations and problems in the real life. That moment is pretty close.
(Ataman, 9 February 2012, 17:54)
   

The Serbs at the Hague are innocent!

(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 14:30)

People like you that try to cover up Serbian war crimes represent the absolute darkest evil of humanity. By covering these crimes up you condone the use of them in the future and continue the cycle of death and misery. You should be ashamed of yourself.
(Skinner, 9 February 2012, 17:58)
   

I don't believe serbia will make candidate status in March. The ego coming out of belgrade is as if EU is trying to join Serbia, and not the other way around.

It's time to let these clowns from the partially recognized territory of Serbia aware that they aren't a super power. How is that dinar (serb rsd) to euro doing these days? 100? 102? 105?
(KOSO, 9 February 2012, 18:24)
   

Skinner

You must be unaware of the fact that the Serbs are the greatest receiver of warm crimes; especially from Serbia's immediate neighbours.

But please enlighten us Serbs on a specific war crime that you are referring to.

I have a war crime that comes to mind Skinner. How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012, 18:58)

DS, SNS enjoy greatest support, poll shows

Parties which enjoy the greatest support are the opposition Serb Progressive Party (SNS) and the ruling Democrats (DS), an Ipsos Strategic Marketing poll shows.

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If this poll is to be believed it means that a DS-LDP-SPS government could be the next one.

However, I suspect the figures of 90% certain support for former current DS supporters is too high.
(bganon, 9 February 2012, 12:20)
   

Interesting. Radicials and Kostunica's DSS below threshold - exactly the two parties that are making the most illusionary and extremists proposals.
(Analyst, 9 February 2012, 14:09)
   

This poll is not to be trusted, if the election results turn out like this then there is no doubt of election rigging. Also, an opinion poll on EU membership recently polled well under 50% in terms of support, more in the region of 35%, so if thats the case then the majority of voters cannot want to vote for parties in favour of EU membership, there is something hugely wrong here.
(SCP UK, 9 February 2012, 15:43)
   

"This poll is not to be trusted, if the election results turn out like this then there is no doubt of election rigging."
(SCP UK, 9 February 2012 15:43)

Yes, sure. Unlike in Russia and Kosovo, there has been no election rigging in Serbia (at least not in the last decade)
(Comm. Parrisson, 9 February 2012, 16:23)
   

SCP it could also be that people in Serbia have begun to wise up and are not voting only on whether a party supports or is against EU membership. As I'm sure you would agree EU membership isn't the priority right now.

As for election rigging, you make it sound easy, but if there is any question of that I'm sure the likes of Vucic, Todorovic and Kostunica will complain.

What is really the problem is that you can't get your head around the idea that the current government could be re-elected with LDP. It could happen, right now I'd say it might be very slightly more likely than a SNS led block.

Why? The 'opposition' block is utterly fragmented. Seselj pulling one way, Kostunica pulling another with Nikolic trying to get them on board. You can bet your last pound that Seselj and Kostunica will ask for a very, very high price to pay for their support. After all DSS and SRS have less to lose, if SNS fails in this election they might calculate that support for SNS will collapse and supporters will return to SRS and DSS.

At the same time SNS still hasn't put forward a case for being a credible government, although perhaps they will manage to do this by the time of the election. But will it be enough?
(bganon, 9 February 2012, 16:53)
   

Just exactly as we suspected. What is not surprising however is the marganisaltion of the lunatic fringe, the Radicals and the decline of the DSS who's only hope now lies in a pre election coalition with the SNS. What is surprising however is the increase in support for the LDP. One suspects that its the result of a number of factors: the consolidation of the liberal and minority vote. The LDP will take votes away pro EU factions in the ruling DS-LSV bloc as well as from ethnic Hungarian, Croat and maybe even Bosniak and Albanian voters. This could well be where the protest vote could go this time.

With 3 months to go and alot to play for, I think it could very well be as you were. No change.
(Niall O'Doherty, 9 February 2012, 16:55)

Religious education becomes compulsory in Russia

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has made a decision to introduce “basics of world religious cultures” and “basics of secular ethics” to Russian schools.

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"According to Russian Education Ministry’s data, majority of students are interested in ethics, 42 percent. 30 percent of the students want to attend basics of the Orthodox Christian culture, basics of the world religions 18 percent, basics of Islam nine percent and basics of Buddhism one percent."

42% + 30% + 18% + 9% + 1% = 100%.

The rest of the students are interested how to burn and destroy a church the most efficient way. There is a short supply of the domestic teachers - at the begin the schools will employ guest professors from abroad. Unfortunately they could not find the "country" on the Russian maps which would be the best for this kind of outsourcing - please help them find it.
(Ataman, 9 February 2012, 16:34)
   

Why bother? Religion is a mental illness.
(Andy UK, 9 February 2012, 16:54)
   

Putin shoring up support in the clergy. Perhaps not a bad idea considering he knows that he is moving towards stormy waters.

Bad luck to students though, religious lessons at school are probably even less popular than maths lessons.
(bganon, 9 February 2012, 16:57)
   

what an appaling idea! Organised religion, of whatever dogma, is a primary medium for repression and conflict. It exists to focus power and control on those who control the dogma an who know the secrets. It is a force which resists change and inhibits the evolution of an ethical philosophy to guide humanity, one based on truth, not on Bronze Age creation myths. Churches and their priests tell lies to children - and we are supposed to respect those lies. How sad that one man, Putin, can allow more priests to telli more lies to more children.
(Andrew Beaumont, 9 February 2012, 17:00)
   

what an appaling idea! Organised religion, of whatever dogma, is a primary medium for repression and conflict.
(Andrew Beaumont, 9 February 2012 17:00)

Bganon and you should re-read the article. The title is very much misleading. I think, B92 could do a better summary and make a proper title of the content they correctly write later. There won't be any "compulsory" religious education in Russia. Instead, like in most E.U. countries the students can CHOSE either:

a) study one particular of the four major religions of the country (Orthodox-Pravoslav, Muslim, Iudaism, Buddhism)
b) study the basics and presumably the history of world's religions
c) study secular ethic standards

This is even a broader choice becase b) is usually absent in E.U. countries, so is Buddhism (despite Berlin, London and Paris being cities with very large Buddhist community).

And the choice "c)" is for the "rest of us". Not-so-surprisingly, the majority of Russian kids chose "c)".

There is no d). Possible choices....
(Ataman, 9 February 2012, 18:32)

Hooligan sentenced to two years in prison

The First Municipal Court in Belgrade on Thursday sentenced Red Star fan group leader Ivan Bogdanov to two years in prison for violent behavior in 2006.

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Someone tell this moron (and many like him all over Europe), "It's just a game!"
(Steve B., 9 February 2012, 18:11)
   

Someone tell this moron (and many like him all over Europe), "It's just a game!"
(Steve B., 9 February 2012 18:11)


Why someone else? How about you tell him yourself.. lol
(usaSERB, 9 February 2012, 18:48)

Gendarmerie commander tours GSZ in south

Gendermerie Commander and Police Colonel Bratislav Dikić stated on Thursday that the current situation in the ground safety zone (GSZ) was stable.

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Reporters were able to see how video cameras and direct monitoring of the field can be used to control the situation and prevent the smuggling of excise goods, as well as illegal crossings over the administrative line. - The next time Thaci tries to send some of his "exports" from KiM, you should go and pay him a personal visit, Dikic. You look like you could teach that old mafioso a lesson or two.
(winston, 9 February 2012, 17:42)

“Decision to suspend massacre probe unlawful”

Prosecutor Jude Romano could not end the probe into the Dobrovoljačka St. case because the investigative team determined that it had elements of a war crime.

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You write "why was the investigation suspended"?? Because you are Serbs, that's why. Serbs don't count as victims. This grotesque, racist double standard coming mainly from the United States, remains very much in place.

Has anyone asked why there is so little media coverage of the Kosovo organ transplant allegations?? Why all the UN countries try to keep this quiet and hushed? Because you're Serbs, that's why.
(Michael Thompson, 9 February 2012, 15:46)

“Only Democrats can defeat SNS”

Only the Democratic Party (DS) can defeat the Serbian Progressive Party (SNS), says League of Social-Democrats of Vojvodina (LSV) deputy leader Bojan Kostreš.

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Thanks for the warning, Cortres, I will surely now never vote for anyone in the DS. I don't like the SNS and the clowns in it, but I do not like you DS'ers either. You have sold off Serbia, and gotten nothing in exchange but more debt. You brag about tuning over Mladic and Karadjic as a great accomplishment - shame on you.
(winston, 9 February 2012, 13:48)

Government curtails electricity supply

The government has decided to curtail electricity supply to institutions and companies which are large consumers but not of vital importance for everyday life.

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Not to worry about adequate gas supply for Serbia - just lock all the politicians in one chamber, the likes of Nikolic, Vucic, Jovanovic, Dacic, most of the DS, SRS, SPS, etc., let them all talk at the same time, and Serbia will have all the gas it needs. No need to export it though, as all countries have their own politicians to supply them with abundance of harmful gases.
(PapaJohn, 9 February 2012, 13:31)

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